China's 'Red Dream' Is Replacing the American Dream — Ex-CIA Spy Explains

Key Takeaway

Build a personal resilience plan instead of reacting to alarming headlines. Today, list your critical dependencies—income, savings, communications, energy, data, and community—then choose one low-regret backup to strengthen this week, such as exporting important files, growing an emergency fund, or deepening a local relationship. The conversation’s practical lesson is not to predict geopolitics perfectly; it is to reduce fragility, think beyond short-term cycles, and make choices that preserve optionality.

Episode Overview

The speakers discuss a speculative, wide-ranging view of U.S.-China competition, including economic interdependence, Taiwan, regional military power, AI, energy, and public confidence in institutions. They argue that China may seek influence through technology, infrastructure, and controlled escalation rather than conventional global war, while the U.S. faces vulnerabilities from polarization and short-term thinking. Many geopolitical claims in the discussion are contested assertions from the speakers rather than established facts.

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Last 6 months our war with Iran were real inspection American power. How are you? Do you think China takes out of results? Oh, God. I have this. feeling that China is experiencing his second great growth. Nobody realizes, that at the first opportunity China for real to learn from United States and take advantage of our the war was a mistake with terrorism. It was, when we were in Afghanistan, Iraq for 21 years, poured money, concentrated, conducted politics. AND during these 21 years, from 2001 to 2021, China traveled from the country that produced plastic widgets, to a country with a second size telecommunication company in the world-Huawei .

They created own domestic fighters. They created their own domestic internet systems. They spent their...They are completely missed that one part of history where you must create landlines for connection houses, they just evolved past this, stealing western IP- address, and then creating her own copies. And they are not only were able to do it to develop, but also engaged in export business, promoting its to Latin America, promoting him to Africa, promoting it through Asia and, of course, even pushing it towards United States. That's why Trump Huawei had to contribute to the blacklist under the time of his first deadline, because we bought Chinese telecommunication business instead our own American, although Chinese telecommunication the operator was a fake of ours.

So, China is already went this way. IN they were 21 years old, so skip steps evolutionary social geopolitical stairs. And now with They are making Iran this again, in five years. But What is the possibility? Is it to observe, how we cling to bag, because I thought that are you going to leave somewhere else, from a point sight...well, we have the missiles are running out, I looked closely at Taiwan, now maybe be a good time for actions. This is actually very interesting hypothesis, what are they are watching something a little different.

So, the possibility to watch us we're going to war, what is this for the opportunity? Various possibilities, combined into one. Therefore, firstly, they watching us we are losing public opinion. They can watch us we say that democracy works while we have it we limit. They can watch as we say that we the most powerful army in in the world, no one must be with us to play, and then us outsmarts on the field little boy, ruined, non-existent country. While we are also we are trying to make friends with other small ones, ruined, non-existent countries , such as Northern Korea.

So they see this disgrace on public arena. It the first advantage that they have. Second the advantage is because they actually can build an alliance with Iran and Russia, because now they can be as open, yes and secretly support continuation conflict from the side Iran. They are actively help them develop new ones rockets. They are actively supply them chemical resources, necessary for solid-state missiles, which are the most dangerous ballistic type rockets. Iran actually now makes a bigger one progress in creating ballistic missiles long range, than before the war.

Through China? Through China and Russia. China provides them precursor chemicals , precursor resources , actual tools, necessary for the rocket, while Russia provides them intellectual property, schemes designing, strategies, support satellite intelligence. So, the whole the reason why Iranian drones in general able to penetrate into airspace in the Middle East, is in Russian intelligence and Chinese possibilities. Tim sometimes Trump can threaten everything the world because if you help Iran, we we will also include you in blacklist. Well, Russia is already in the black list, so what is it?

work? And China, theirs main advantage is that I I will try to bring China. to the blacklist. You Do you really think that? United States can survive without China? Try it. Because we don't think, what are you really pull the trigger. So, the second big advantage for China is that they can to sharpen and continue burning American resources vs. Iranian opponent, while building alliances with Iran, building long-term obligations with Russia and without wasting none of their own military resources. They just spend precursor chemicals , technology and resources they have can be exchanged for oil.

And the third is big the advantage he gets China, is that that because United States continue to waste attention, resources, diplomacy, reputation for war, which we started in Iran, China only once confirms its position on Taiwan. Do they want to kill? prime minister Taiwan, do they want they take over the country by force, do they want stop her for through cyberattack , do they want start your own economic "D" day, China is no more an enemy who does something for the first time, because United States, leader of the free world, already used all sneaky tricks, who could only hope China.

If you are not the USA, Russia, China, Iran and watching all this, that you you will lose if Will America lose? This is a question that I I think they are asking themselves 157 countries. If they pegged to the dollar The USA, like many countries Latin America, the dollar will be first, What are they from? will have to defend. If the dollar will start to lose cost, then Panamanian currency will also lose money, and Argentine currency too will lose money. As and many African countries and Latin America, when the dollar falls, will fall and they.

And when United States will fall, dollar will also fall. Ago that whoever wins, will receive more share of national reserves, more share of international trade, more share of investments. So, all these countries, which are close to American dollars, close to American import and export, if they depend from American diplomacy, if they depend on American technologies, all of them ask themselves: "How I want to share mine. portfolio? How many Chinese products Should I buy it? AND How many American products to me sell? To be in in a situation where I can go to any "Which direction?" But the whole world knows that happening now change of government, change geopolitical, economic and military power.

They they just don't know what This will end. And this doesn't look right good for the United States that we have this arrogant president gives huge promises that, it seems not are being implemented. What do you think? Is the world watching? Therefore, if I try understand that I I will do with mine. briefcase, with whom I I will unite where I am. I will buy things, who what will be produced, then on what are they paying attention, which tells them: "Now is the time make a decision"?

Again, I think, what is happening three things, right? Therefore, firstly, I think that countries ask myself: "As I want diversify your infrastructure on future? As I want not to prepare just before I I will filter the water. and how will I deliver electricity? Or I want use American technology, or Chinese? But they also ask themselves: "As I wish" structure your government?" Because I want to I structure the government, which is democratic the government because I want to be on the side of the USA, or me I want to structure government, which is the government a strong person, therefore that's how I win the Chinese side?

AND The Chinese know that Trump administration there is much more by a strong government person than democratic government . So, the first question, which countries put to myself, this is: as I want invest in your infrastructure? Second question: how do I I want to choose mine. conflict? Because now is the perfect time for any country world, which has disputes with your neighbor, or Azerbaijan, or Pakistan-India, or Colombia-Venezuela, any country that wants to quarrel with your neighbor directly now, now is the time to do it. United The states are scattered, so great peacemaker the world doesn't really will have something to say.

And this partly explains why do you see how Afghanistan and Pakistan now they play the same role. That's why you you see how Israel now it's working furiously on Middle East. IN you have this freedom, which you have never before there was no, because we we are in such a situation situation where, as I I've been hinting for a long time, we let's see what it looks like world war. How, say, do you said here, in this show that we are already in the middle of Third World War war.

Of course, this worrying, but yes, with every day it becomes it's getting harder deny. It becomes very easy to start to put together pieces together and look at these things. Um, in your in turn, this means that you see how it can to become acute in all various conflicts. However, what I want understand, something will happen, when they will look at what The US will withdraw from the war in Irani, they declare victory. And that's exactly it, watching country, they know that America is weak. Will be something like that when British empire officially will fall, everyone called this is a moment Suez Canal.

So, as soon as they could not protect Suez Canal, Egypt regained its control over it, that's when we understood that British Empire no longer the way we see it once believed. It seems like a moment Suez Canal for me when we are not we can get control over The Strait of Hormuz, the more pressure we we try for it to do, all the more they start to put pressure on, um, Bab el-Mandeb Strait. So, this is not it worked, and now, when Bessin spoke and said, "Okay, we now let's apply economic sanctions, similar to which no one has seen before , and in combination with naval blockade we are the ones who are understood.

We them suffocate. Agreement "resolved." Um, how, on In your opinion, this will look like if we ...Let's take a look both scenarios. Scenario one: he will really work, and Iran really will break through under sanctions and blockade, and then this won't work, and Russia continues use Caspian Sea for supplies of things to Iran. Iran always has enough of that what does he need, because, obviously, The Caspian Sea is not has access to the sea, therefore American the military cannot install there blockade. So, we have this is the point of origin.

Um, Name these two for me. scenarios. What will happen if we Will we really break Iran? What happens if we will just lose CONTROL? There is no first option. No space , where we will break Iran. Seriously? I don't think so. It will happen someday. I I think the only one the way Iran will actually change his government and will a completely different country, this is if the United States actually will give permission Israel, and Israel, for support of others Arab countries coast Gulf of Mexico or the countries of the Persian Gulf, will begin full-scale war against Iran.

Full-scale war United States of America Iran will look like almost the same as full-scale war United States of America Afghanistan. AND The Taliban still are there at to the authorities. Isn't that right? Religious government is not what we can successfully win. We can we hurry...We we can hide them. We we can drive them into underground. We can just create next generation fanatics, but even if we give it all American forces on the capture of Iran, this it will be the same as when we gave everything American forces on delight Afghanistan.

We have walked this path. We we know that this is not works for us. Therefore I I don't think the first one the option is actually there even realistic. The fact that this is a place where Iran is collapsing because of our actions, I don't I know if this is realistically, especially if it is Will it keep them alive? Or this is a hole in our blockade due to Caspian Sea, or I don't think so. logistics or something so tactical. I I think that's it. strategic and an ideological thing that supports Iran in life.

We are actually we are introducing sanctions against them until to such an extent that now in them inflation is a little less than 100%, I think, on food products. They have inflation, essentially, ubiquitous, for consumer index prices, growth in the level life, and then they level increase food, and both indicators extremely high. Theoretically, there is point to which you can to prove that you are not will you be able to pay to your soldiers, you don't you will be able to feed all its civilians persons.

I think we we will find ourselves in moral dilemma, because, I think the world will turn against us, if the Iranians literally will starve. But I I can imagine. scenarios where if we we can stop supply from Russia and to contain China, to they could not offer material support, we can to strangle them. Hmm, this is seems a little unlikely. Which mechanism, by by which means it will it become impossible? The question is what probably. Keep China in the distance–this an unlikely idea. Okay, so they will intervene.

They are going to promote it. They are already involved. They are closer to Iran. They are bigger than us. we can imagine. Iron Curtain today is actually American understanding that is happening in China. It's just far beyond beyond what we we can control. If we underestimated Iran, then imagine, as far as we are We underestimate China. Yes. With their wealth, their power, their coverage, their influence. So, China has every reason to the world not only to help Iran now, but also increase aid Iran in the future, because Iran is giant thorn in on the side of the United States.

Iran is giant thorn in on the side of all states coast Gulf of Mexico or all the countries of the Council cooperation Arab states Persian Gulf. Ago that any of these countries of the Council cooperation Arab states Persian Gulf, which supports the United States, also feels threat from Iran. This is the perfect opportunity. for China to say: " Hey guys, you Do you really think that? United States can be yours long-term security solution? Or, maybe you want cooperate more with China? Maybe we worth getting part of your oil.

Maybe we should get a part your technologies. Maybe you need our engineers. And that's it, what do you need to do, this to distance oneself from United States. Oh my God. So China has all the strategic reasons support Iran, and Iran knows this. Russia has all the strategic reasons to support Iran, and Iran is also this knows. And the Iranian the people spent the last 70 years under oppression. It a generation and a half, which grew up knowing only the current one normality. So, although people love to say something in like: "Oh, look at these photos of Iran 1950s and the 1960s, when, you know, before the fall "Shah".

Yes, that's it. existed, but this people are now 80 years. They are not warriors. And the age that is now warrior, not really believes that war is option. And they definitely not engaged internal conflicts, not raise an uprising , do not create resistance. We can't even imagine this, but what they are passed, this is how they are walking down the street and see how a person in civilian gets gun and shoots at another person in civilian, and then is leaving. Because that's exactly that's how they live and forces are hiding security in Iran in everyday life.

So they don't have sense of community trust. In the United We still believe in the States. that we can meet at home person and plan the fall of the government, and we we will be safe. We we can even believe, that we have laws about confidentiality, which protect us from such a meeting. We can believe, yes. But in Iran they think otherwise. Iranian dilemma, every day, which she is experiencing, only strengthens Iran and humiliates the United States. And this makes all of ours opponents to guarantee that this will continue.

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And now you live in a world where, so to speak, 90% world conflicts could have done earlier stop the USA, just saying, "Don't do it." this. Uh, now this won't work anymore. Now we really have to fight in every fight, if we want to stop someone from something. It can be economical, but we don't care have to work hard a certain level of strength, which we have not seen before could, and now we we see in this cracks. Who will win? Who loses in this? scenarios?

I want to answer this is in two ways. The first way I I want to answer this. that if our moment with Suez the channel was Afghanistan? Oh. Not Iran. Because we are not had great success since the fall Afghanistan. Besides unlawful killing presidents Venezuela, right? We don't really did a lot for success elsewhere. We are not drug cartels were shut down . We didn't stop. production fentanyl. We are not weakened the Chinese power. We haven't yet. prevented the fall Ukraine under the influence Russia. If so, then gone, then Russia again went on the offensive.

By last 5 months there were more battles than for the previous 4 years. So we don't demonstrate great success in neither why since invasion of Afghanistan in 2001. So maybe our moment with Suetzky The channel has already happened. But the second way answer this the question is because if the moment with the Suez Canal happening now, we will see the reaction world, which is not so very different from the reaction we seen in the last 4 years. Allies more don't believe that United States they will come to help.

Question regarding our ambiguous policies like ours ambiguous policy on Taiwan, these questions is no longer a question, people no longer consider this ambiguity strategic ambiguity. Now they think, what is political ambiguity regarding strategic ambiguities, so we can to choose what...If we we can do it, we can decide later. People are in no hurry. to invest in United States. People are not in a hurry access to United States. IN we have taken place immigration repressions that force people to feel that they belong here not happy. We have repressions took place regarding, um, American freedoms , American transparency, American, hmm, justice system.

Even Americans mostly growing in dissatisfaction The United States. We have the largest wealth outflow, which we ever saw. We have, um, constant problems on our labor market with inflation, with, um, vacancies. And on I will add to everything. this, you add artificial intelligence. So, gigantic technological shock. On addition to self-imposed military upheavals , which are at the end political upheavals that continue since those as long as we can't hold president longer than 4 years. For me it is means multipolar world, China will take it. place.

How is this? unfolding? Or China is taking a step regarding Taiwan, he forces this issue, and now the US is either doing step, or they completely retreat and retreat to your hemisphere, or something else? Step-by-step procedure development of events is difficult to predict. There are certain reference points which, seems to have to happen. In Iran will take place balancing on the edge war. Will it help? China to Iran, right? will help before face economic day "D", dictated Donald Trump? Because Donald Trump says that anyone who helps Iran, will completely cut off.

China has already said that we will ignore it. We don't at all we recognize your sanctions, literally camera. So now that means, what China is learning from in situations such as and what happened in Greenland, when Greenland is not retreated from everyone Trump's threats. When Mexico is not retreated from everyone Trump's threats. When Canada did not back down from all threats Trump. Trump was successful only when when he threatened, and people were breaking down. But when he threatened, and people got up and resisted, we discovered that the White House often changes dramatically your policy, not leaving explanations.

So now China does the same. So if economical D-Day is not really is If they really will not fulfill their obligations, then this balance of actions that comes from China, sends them a signal about what they can to aggravate the situation. So we'll see. balance of action in Iran, we We already see it. We should expect balance of actions on the verge conflict in Taiwan. Is it complete? military balance actions, whether diplomatic balance action, whether political balance of action, China does not wants to fight. Watching us, they understand, that war is expensive, war costs lives, it costs reputation.

In war time economy gets a small push, but it doesn't have long-term benefits. So, China wants to avoid full-scale war. But does it mean that they will avoid fights? Not necessarily. Or does this mean that they are not will use naval resource? Not necessarily. They may want small controlled military operations, similar to those that United States made in Iran, but they are not going conduct full-scale intrusion. I never did not suggest this. I don't think so. will happen. This will be it's more like that happened in Hong Kong, when they changed politics, and then used violent means police actions.

So we should be expected something in Taiwan. We also absolutely should expect something between Russia and Ukraine. The fact that Russia and Ukraine not for me right now priority, not not only impressive, but also indicates a lesson, What is China like now? assimilates into the world. It there was a complete violation sovereignty of Ukraine . The entire Western world promised support. There was a flow of modern technologies and organization counterattacks, counterattack in the summer 2023, which surprised world. People thought that Ukraine will win. Some people still think that Ukraine will win.

I think they have a chance, isn't that right? If they have a chance, then it is fleeting shot. And I mean talks. I am not I think they are win the military conflict, but with considering that they did with drones that harm the actual infrastructure of Russia , consists of the impression that perhaps I'm just in algorithmic bubble, and therefore...I I can't see everything because I'm surprised that you you say that Russia moved again to offensive. I understood that, that Ukraine has transitioned to offensive. They are both, that is both declare offensive.

Of course. Big difference is that corruption issue finally became mainstream in Ukraine. Really? And that's what I mean when we talked for 3 years therefore, I thought that Ukraine is corrupt country, not democracy. This is not fight for protection democracy in Ukraine. This is corrupt a satellite country of Russia. People didn't believe it, until about 2 years hence all the corruption and the loss of trillions US dollars have not become obvious to people. So how or why are they like that Are they fighting hard? Because you won't force it.

a country that does not believe in oneself, to do such a thing the resistance of Russia, which they they do. We are not saying that Ukraine does not believe in himself. But you said that they are a satellite country Russia. Yes, as if they were a country, who modeled herself following the example of Russia. Their corruption is Russian corruption. Their culture...is Russian culture. design, not affiliation. Right. Of course. Of course. wanted to be a part NATO, but they still wanted to have the ability to steal money, you know, because back door.

Therefore, now you have Zelensky, who stand up to your former minister defense, which accuses Zelenskyy in that, that he is no longer able to manage, and demands elections in the middle of war scenario. AND Zelensky says that I I would like not to be president, but I I should be president, because the country needs me. And Fedorov says, that you shouldn't be leader. This country is experiencing an incredible corruption. We lost more resources in this war under your internal environment because you guys steal money and you steal Ukrainian people.

AND regardless of whether How will this end? war, you will live luxuriously on some island as a hero Ukraine. He says: no, we need to change this whole foundation. AND, Of course, Russia wants to see these internal political debate inside Ukraine. AND Western world asks the question, Is there Ukraine now? more democratic, than it was before, is it just...one more dictatorship? Their accused of violations of rights human, because they made impossible departure of men of draft age. Although Russia is accused of terrorist acts, attacks on civilians infrastructure in Ukraine, Ukraine's goals in Russia–it is mainly civilian objects.

Oil refining factories, logistics supply centers, airports. It military equipment that use these airports, military means that use the electrical network, and military equipment that use oil , but the whole reason, why is Ukraine attacking oil opportunities Russia, is that to inflict them economic shock. So when Russia attacks the energy network, attacks dormitories, attacks heating centers and exchangers in Rashi Ukraine, Ukraine says that this is a violation, but they both do the same thing as does all this work a mess for criminal court, when all this will end.

You said that you It was amazing that people don't pay attention to it attention. Uh, like a human, which regularly highlights this, I surprised that you you say what surprises you, that people don't pay attention to attention to this only because, that this doesn't seem to be has the following consequences, like a war between the US and Iran. So, what are we Don't we notice? If look at this, we, certainly, we realize this, but we do not provide this the same trust as in case with the US vs.

Iran. What we lack, so it is that success Is Russia's failure in Ukraine will become springboard for success or failure America in Iran, success or failure China vs. Taiwan, and, in fact, how will look the next 50 years military conflict in everything world. If Ukraine will win extremely a powerful force that all over the world consider corrupt, violent, uh, anti-free, er, depressing if Ukraine will be able to to win, it will give hope for the whole world, that little person can still win that are democratic principles will prevail, what is the reason wins villainy.

This is hope. . And hope is what created our country, isn't that right? Hope that that is small scattered group revolutionaries will be able to overthrow the greatest superpower in the world on that time during the War for independence. Exactly this happened in United States. It became history century. Everyone believed in the United States, in the American dream and vision. So, if Ukraine will win, that's it will become part of that that...unites Taiwan. And partly this forces people to believe in a just cause United States and democracy, not in places like Iran.

But if Russia will win if people will refuse Ukraine, this is essentially similarly to how people refuse from democratic dreams. And this intensifies the idea of ​​a strong government. So now all these governments that balance in Latin America, Central America, Africa, East Europe and South- East Asia, all these governments that are now balance between, Are we democratic? Are we strong or are we dictatorship, or we fair elections? All they will obey any prevailing promises of the world. Now we have this many successful activities of the strong leaders.

Netanyahu, corrupt politician , a strong leader. Zelensky, corrupt politician , a strong leader. Trump , corrupt politician, strong leader. Uh, C Jinping, corrupt politician ? We don't know because China keeps saying, that they are fighting against corruption, and Xi Jinping is above all this . So now they are the only one country in the world which, how we really are we believe, with consecutive point media view, may not be corrupt. that they are not corrupt? To believe that the leader- a strong person does what he thinks the best for the country.

Because I, um, obsessed with Chinese history, especially modern history, and I understand everything, because of what they passed with Mao, and reforms, what of this emerged, and how you you see almost a U-turn towards Mao with side of Xi Jinping. Hmm, I am much smaller. inclined to believe that that guy who sends people to concentration camps, and that guy, who cleans people in own army, and he the guy who forces Jack Ma to disappear and to re-educate, hmm, that he is not corrupt; and, Of course, I don't believe it, that he is accurate in that what is good for him countries, because any who, who believes: "Hey, I see things so clearly, hmm, what can I just do to manage all this for "Exactly what, in my opinion, America proved, and I want talk later about whether he stayed in America some moral authority, but, um, that's exactly what made America the richest country on Earth, this is what we were the only government, who understood that a person is prone to tyranny.

And that's why we must build a system that protects us from people who can start with good intentions, but inevitably begin believe: "Well, I know that the best, that's why I I'm just going to do this really bad thing, but all this for the sake of the country." Uh, and this impulse, knowledge of what people do exactly like that, —that's exactly what, from what we must defend. Sometimes I don't think I am. in step with the world, and this I am so shocked. Um, but when I look at Xi Jinping, all that I see, it's a blatant drawback authoritarianism, which when it breaks, it breaks like this It's devastating that you you just can't do it make.

It would be like this how I feel, looking at China, I would feel like this if there was a racer Formula 1, which stood would be on the back the seat of your car and..." he seemed to have Harley handlebars, was without helmet and just was driving the car. AND if he is ahead, I anyway like this: " Guys, if anyone will damage his tire or the wind, you know, will not hit the spoiler, "This guy is dead." "AND now add to this American ideology. What, how?

won't they catch him? What, how will he become who for the first time in history will cross the finish line straight in a Formula race -1 or will get several victories? And that's exactly what I'm saying. It seems like. I don't think you...I would never thought to say that you are not in course of truth. My the question is because how much Americans, on your opinion, they pay such Attention, how are you? How many Americans use the rubric that Do you use? AND it's just Americans.

How many Zimbabweans ? How many Thais? How many Japanese? How many Vietnamese? How many Mexicans or Uruguayans? How many of them do you think? opinion, just as attentive and analytical, how are you? And suddenly you start understand that China is not falls into newspaper headlines because of corruption. China falls into newspaper headlines through the new giant modern torpedo submarine the boat they created, absolutely new aircraft carrier, which they lowered onto water, well, negotiations, what are they trying to do to complete between Palestine and Israel. That..." People talk about when talking about China.

They speak not about political Xi's problems Jinping, they are talking about political problems America, Israel and Putin. They are not they talk about...They are talking about economic problems, but they talk about economic problems, and they can't to resist, not to talk also about how they still growing almost 5%. Yes. Therefore, in a world of bad news best news come from China. WITH state media agencies and very controlled narrative, I am not I'm not saying for a second that I believe that Xi Jinping is not corrupt, Of course.

But I have to meaning that messages were so formed and sculpted, that when they reach us, then they are quite strong sculpted in in a favorable way compared to what we we read about our own internal politics. Hmm. And for me it will be more successful in in the modern world than alternative. The alternative is mass disinformation , false information and political unrest. So here it is why China chooses such an approach? AND, Of course, Si... Jinping returns the whole country back to Mao. Xi Jinping— prince, that is, he descendant of one of Mao's inner circle.

The entire CCP is built on this idea that princes from primitive families were preparing for power. So, who, on your I think they are preparing until next time coming to power? It the same ideology. But what really That's bad, my friend, that's how it is. whether it will work. If they cross the finish line on horizontal bars on racing car Formula 1, this will be a new dream of the future. It American dream. Yes. Red dream. I am old enough, to remember when the world in fact discussed whether will we communists, or Democrats, and democracy in the end won, and it was Have a great time, friend.

90- those were special. 80- those were special. It was really incredible. I never I didn't think we were now. let's put this again question. Hmm. And what are we again...the world again...watching by confrontation two giants, and this the broader question: who am I I will follow, will I? Who will I be? try to flatter, imitating. Yes. And this is very frustrating. Good. Another reason an idea, or another one additional opinion. The reason why communism lost democracy in 1991, because in the 80s this is a question everything was still open .

Yes. It was because of the fall. The Berlin Wall. Because in the race weapons, where all competed in development his military potential, development space resources etc., one person ahead of. But they mostly acted by themselves in vacuum. This is not the one. the race we are in now . We are not participating. in technological races, we don't take participation in the military race, not like this It was in the 80s. Now we we are participating in this race for long-term access to resources. We are not just we are trying create different weapons behind closed doors door.

We are actively we create weapons and we pass it on to others countries that are in active conflict, for testing in field conditions. That actually check their success. AND show to the opponent exactly what we developed. While The Cold War was about not telling anyone to show what you are you are developing. So we even observe a kind of evolution Cold War war, so no one calls what occurs between By the United States and China, Cold war. It's not cold. It's more like warmth, it's It's hot, it's a secret.

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So, when we opposed Russia, this it was not in my hemisphere. And that's exactly what it's about. Caribbean was going missile crisis. Not that so that Russia does not do similar in others places. It's only 90 miles from the coast Florida. And therefore, as soon as it happened, it happened it seems like we both actually we are going to shoot each other nuclear weapons. So it becomes very, very, very real. How is it now? will unfold? China is very far away. It seems that many of of what we did in South America, particularly in Venezuela, was aimed at to kick China out of our hemisphere.

Or This will be a game where we let's try to force everyone in our hemisphere join us, and we will react cruel if China will try to be somewhere in our hemisphere? So I don't think that's it. will be geographical battle in general. I I think it will be economic battle. Because the United States, I can only hope that our the US government also reached this conclusion. What our big vulnerability is not military. Our great vulnerability not geographical, it not related to defense. It economy. This is ours great vulnerability.

We We globalized our economy, and we made the whole world dependent on American technologies. But we overspent our economic chips in poker, so Europe already cut myself off from American technologies. China cut himself off from American technology 4 years therefore, stopped use American social networks, created his own, stopped offering American software software, created his own. So, China is already separated and showed the world how test case that you don't need to belong to American technologies. Because, if you belong to American technologies, it's like every Apple user, if you are subscribed to Apple, they're holding you back in a vice.

You need theirs phone, you need it their computer, you need...you want every update, you each is needed update, and if you try to go, expenses are incurred for transition, and now you you can lose everything your photos. For How are you going? move these photos from Apple to Google? And there is only one another option, and you, as an Apple user, for decades they said that all others are less protected. That's exactly what China is playing now. China recognizes that if ...If the United The states will lose enough reputation, enough faith in justice and democracy, as well as economic advantage or industrial, uh, technological advantage, then everyone other countries of the world, who are in economic depression due to dependence on US dollar, will look for a cheaper one technical alternative, and China finished.

Alternatives to security health and medical technologies, alternatives technologies observation and police officer technologies, manufacturer and seller electric car number one in the world, alternatives in telecommunications, and the only reason why Panama is not now uses China, is that Trump said that if they will do it, he will deprive Panama American support. So, they will use 30%, 28%, 15%Chinese technologies, because they will continue increase dial, having backup option for case if America will collapse. AND problem for United States is that every time 1, 10, 15 countries change the volume imports by 5%, collective economic contribution huge, because they do not reduce their dependence on United States for the sake of a trifle at 7 dollars; they reduce their addiction to...

United States for technical tool worth 5000 dollars, and they invest these $5,000 in something other. And if they buy in yuan, then in they don't even exist demand for the US dollar. So, vulnerability, with what is it now United States face States, is an economic vulnerability, and The Chinese understand this. They have already proven time of war with terrorism that can create a competitor for completely Chinese completely American technologies. Now they just need create a market that wants them more than American technologies. When you look at China, as far as strong, on your I think he actually there are?

And I will ask this of in two dimensions: in militarily, their ability to project force behind borders of the South- China Sea, and then economically. I believe that China is in the same unstable economic situation, as well as United States. We not in good shape economic situation, they too. Both countries have huge debts. Two countries that are now lead by national debt, -this is the United States and China, and we both we reduce our national debt, because we literally we compete in creating technologies and the army for of the future.

potential conflict among themselves. So, although easy to point out finger on the market real estate in China, We have a spoiled one here. real estate market. AND although it is easy to point out for overspending funds in China, we have there is an overspend here funds, and easily to point to financial irresponsibility China, we have it here the same thing happens. So, we are really two. mirrors that looking at each other one. In the military advantage in terms of United States is that we we can design its military force all over the world, and we we have experience in conflict management all over the world.

If we will act accordingly, which, as we know, will be effective, Iran is a good example how we act outside beyond what we we know, it was effective. We intentionally led limited war, limited conflict, and we have not reached our goals. But Maduro is example of another limited conflict where we may be achieved their goals. Big difference is that China doesn't want design global military power. They want design directly regional power. South China The sea is all they have. worries, and perhaps they have a dominant situation in South China sea.

Even if United States and China really started a war, no one imagines, like Chinese ships attacking the United States. Everyone imagines themselves American warships off the coast of China, and if that happens, Chinese hypersonic missiles will be launched from mainland and will fall on American ships in South China sea. And when one hypersonic rocket successfully contacts with one aircraft carrier, you losing an aircraft carrier . But if this hypersonic missile they shoot you down, you launch another. China wants conflict near your the coast, because That's where he's strong.

Of course. United States never want conflict near your coast, so they predict... Okay, so, unstable economy from both parties, I would agree. I think most people think that China's economy stronger than she is actually. I agree. Uh, it's getting shorter, but , as you already said, they are still recording growth rates, but they are still recording growth rate on equal to 4.5%, which is significantly better than we are now. Now, some estimates, which I have seen speak about the fact that 4.5...is greatly exaggerated, but I would anyway said that at least they are growing faster than us, even if they grow with a decrease in pace.

Also, as a manufacturer world, they were like us directly to and virtually immediately after the Second World War I, where we could produce everything, people turned to us for everything. Now the world begins globalize or deglobalize, but, uh, it's still the same part of them economy, which is still works. This is very small, strangely enough, part their common economy, if look at this in numbers. Export of things for them relatively small in percentage of total GDP. But yet it works. It gives them power over people, namely over the USA who are trying to receive from them such things like drones, having full control.

WITH military side you say, "Okay, they spend, they grow, they don't are trying to project force, they are trying to involve us in something close. This is the only one the conflict that you See here? "Because, obviously the US...God my, do I pray that they were not so stupid, so that we can just from nowhere, preemptively said: "We don't like it." what you do in Iran. "And here we are we sail on their banks. I can't to understand this, even with Trump. I I just can't do this.

understand. But what am I I can understand, that's it. what Taiwan is forcing us to intervene, or the one I haven't heard of, so that someone actually said, this is Japan. AND China has said directly, that we are not, and if you you don't know the history between Japan and China, Dude, look at this. Chinese, damn it! , hate the Japanese because of rape Nanjing and I sure, a whole series atrocities. Um, that is, when Japan was imperialist, they are determined persecuted China. I'll just leave it as is.

for those who know little about knows this. But they They directly said that we we will not allow Japan to become the Israel of Asia. And I'm like: damn. Emm, it's fast, it's pungent accusation as Israel and Japan. So as you can see it? For those of you who don't knows what's going on in Japan, and I know that You are not one of those who don't knows. Japan refuses not to fulfill his obligation create..." offensive military forces. Yes. They are actively create their own central reconnaissance management.

They, uh, the current prime minister the minister dismissed parliament 4 months so he built brand new parliament. Japan restructured in offensive side military and purposeful, uh, reconnaissance opportunities that exist internal and are guided internal interests. To everyone It is worth considering this. Mmm. Because it means world order that arose after the Second World War II, where Germany and Japan it was forbidden to have offensive military capabilities , and they became very dependent on United States regarding their nuclear and military umbrellas, both of these countries now, in 2026 year, Chancellor Germany stated that Germany will create the largest army in all over Europe, and they will become the leader of NATO.

Whenever they do this they do, [ __ ] happens crazy, kids, so Fasten your seatbelt. And Japan said that exactly. We are no longer we will be under the yolk under the American umbrella. We let's create our own offensive potential. We are actively we build our own central intelligence service . So, a sign that United States lost influence in Asia and lost influence in Germany, there is empirical so much well, as much as contextual. How many of us actually are lost? Maybe this another question...debate, but of course we We don't live in the same times.

after the Second World War II, in who lived before. China, China doesn't want conflict, and I I will emphasize, and I will start with this. They don't want to conflict, because not want to take risks, maybe bad to cope, to be perceived as less more powerful than they are actually. They watched paper effect tiger, which happened with Russia, when Russia invaded Ukraine. They watched paper tiger of what happened in Iran, when the United The States invaded Iran. So, they do this don't want to, and that's returns to "Things of Sun Tzu" The Art of War.

You don't want conflict, if you don't need to to have a conflict. And I I think they are now checking whether can they act somehow aggressive against Taiwan, to involve Taiwan to its composition, so that to break a promise Taiwan will one day become free and independent a sovereign state, and this idea that they somehow will become an ally United States off the coast of China. China is just trying this suppress. Japan going to do everything that is going on do Japan, and you... That's right, China is not wants to see militarization of Japan or its transformation into powerful independent the state.

But, just now having come from this countries, Japan with cultural point vision will need 50 years to actually change mentality of their own people. We we are talking about people, during which the last 70 years driven into a yoke America, so that they created American economic value, adhering to American politics. As if they furthest confront the militants to the forces I saw behind a long time. The only one the country I once... ever seen passive, reserved and nervous about own future , this is when I supported Portugal.

Hmm. Former Soviet Portugal. Yes. Former Soviet tiny country, but in both cases think about history. Portugal first explored world. Portugal... The Portuguese had colonies all over world. Now they just tiny a country that no one knows about doesn't say which one produces wine. Japanese were a people who created pilots- kamikaze. They were not just terrible empire at the beginning 1900s, but they have were hundreds of years ago this, when they were ...Samurai, they were shinobi, they could stop Mongolian intrusion. It madness. And the Japanese raped Chinese and Korean women, just to clean bloodlines.

Oh my God. Damn Japanese systematically killed Korean tigers, because knew that the tiger was cultural symbol power for Koreans. So the Japanese come from rich foundation violent imperial projected power. And now they are sitting silently in the subway, listening to their own devices to to reassure you if You are making too much noise. I I don't think China worried that they will become a threat during the next five generations or the next three generations, the next 50 years. So China knows, what if they can suppress anything that will happen in Taiwan, and cut off the East from United States, they just win, if the Japanese buy Chinese telecommunication company.

As well as Russia tried to conquer Europe, making Europe dependent on Russian energy. Devil. That is, uh, I spent a lot of time for research Japan in very novice style, but enough for me really understood the truth of the meme, who said: "Japan anytime in history, " and she shows them as samurai, with swords in hands, with severed heads, and "Japan now,” and it’s like Hello Kitty. Yeah, that's wild. They... what's happening culturally...I think many people think, that it's a bomb, and it's theirs It just drags on.

The reality is that they were so imperialist and so stubborn that when...and this is what I I would like to ask you. about China, when Japan actually hit the USA, it was moment of decline. It There was a moment of despair. So, they don't have it that way. many resources, so they depended on... USA, Netherlands, perhaps the Great Britain, I don't I remember from whom... but definitely from the USA and Netherlands. They received all their oil, and then...this was during the Second World War II, they understood, just now signed an agreement with...

Germany, and now they are stepping on China. It's all one a great war. We are not can we do this to allow So we we are going to cut off them from the supply oil. That's why they attacked. Because they said: "Okay, in we are left fuel only for six or nine months. If we Let's not start now. act, then we will have problems. "They knew that an attack on the United States is very risky attempt. We all know, how it happened. But while they got to this point moment, in Japan already there were people who felt hungry food shortage.

Some would said that some people were starving. Hmm, they taught the whole nation to expect that will need embody the same spirit kamikaze, so that we have there was one big one final bloody a battle to the death. So the Japanese, while they made Pearl- Harbor, already refused of the future. None this feeling that I, as a Japanese, I look at the future and I see how I raise children, etc. All I see is that that we will fight to death. And that's why there is this a book called " Accepting defeat, "and it tells the story about why for Japan, when they fell bombs, and there was announced a full surrender, it was feeling of...relief .

Okay, we don't. need continue this do. And what did I find? interesting in this story , so this is what, oh, this is not was Japan at its peak of its power, and that's why she moved against the USA. It was Japan, which has just cut off from oil, which already had economic problems, because they overstrained through your imperialist behavior. And now their entire society sees nothing in in the future, and that's it then we take a step. Now that I look on China, I see that they actually economically are declining because I always looked at it through the prism of "traps" » Thucydides, who is to grow the power of China, the decline of US power, peak danger.

But it could be something to others, namely: you have this nation, which used to was on the rise trajectory, suddenly turns out to be from huge demographic problem in combined with huge economic problem, and now they really don't see a way out economic problem , especially when we we begin deglobalization. AND so now it's like this: oh, we are on a limited time framework while we still have it power. Now, considering the softening of America, calculations begin to become very complicated, but if it is true that states actually more prone to attack, when they are in decline, what exactly did you do Germany in the First world war, which just did Imperial Japan.

Uh, you can say that this exactly what the USA made in Iran. You have there is a declining state, which says, "Oh, we have limited window where we must use advantage. "So then The question arises: whether actually it is increases the likelihood that in Taiwan something will happen kinetic? The idea that China is in economic downturn, This is true only when when to compare their current GDP productivity with their recent GDP or their goals regarding GDP. I don't know whether they would say that they are in come down, especially not compared to all others in the world who grow less than by 2%.

So does he think the Chinese government, or believes Chinese the people that they are in decline? Do they think that they are in delay, at the moment... stagnation? Perhaps, they even translate their problems on us and they say, "Oh, the United The states caused all the this war and conflict, and COVID created this problem when people don't trust Chinese production, because think that we, you know , used all supply chains." But do they believe that they actually experiencing the moment decline? Because you must believe that you are you in decline, if are you going to succeed?

to the desperate action to prevent recession. Secondly, whether China believes that the world deglobalized? Or China believes that COVID was spontaneous change in the economy, and that it's just a question time? Such a wonderful way to say that this nonsense, but Of course. Is it just a matter of time when everything is diversified and expensive separation will reunite to supply chains with one source? You do you really want to have one supply chain from China and one supply chain from Vietnam? Are you ready? save that 20% and to receive again your supplies from China?

This is very Chinese taxonomy, again yes, way of thinking Sun Tzu, time is most leveler. all the time. So, if you want, for them to return to you, everything you need need to do this to continue to be present. This is how it works prostitution. Yes espionage is at work. You always available, while theirs will not change time. And China as a whole may think so. AND then, in addition to all of this, we we are talking about their demographic problem. For us it is demographic problem.

Is this demographic a problem for them? Or The Chinese believe that mass loss of their the oldest generations will negatively affect them during the next thousand years? Are they believe that it will be very difficult transition during the next 25 years? But after that they there will be no more focused on, to be a country- manufacturer. They focused on, to be high-tech the producing country. They need less qualified people to increase GDP by per capita, so that to make them superpower of the first world. And they never will not have this, while transporting 1.6 a billion people.

Therefore, if we allow 300 to millions of people just getting old, to die without any ...state medical help, who even Will we follow her? IN they don't even exist infrastructure in the hinterland of China, to take care of these people. China still has people with curved with your feet. In Japan there is people who can't stand straight, which pushing carts under at a 90 ° angle, because everything is different spent their lives on rice field. So, of course, they exist in China. Is this parents, are they people, or these are the people about whom they really are are worried that they will affect GDP formation next generation ?

China watched, like millions of people died during Cultural Revolution . Why do we think that they just don't want to to watch again, like two generations eighty-year-olds simply disappear, and GDP per capita countries literally grows overnight. Well, that's certainly a very gloomy picture. It depends on one thing that leads us to the most important technology with which ever encountered world, namely AI. Now you can watch to the world if you have observed decrease demographic indicators like this happening in China, how does this happen in USA, like...Japan does, Southern Korea does.

Your respond- immigration or AI. It your two options. Japan is now starting to encounter problems immigration practically for the first time, and they, certainly, hyperallergic to this. So you see reaction very early, in the way you only now you see in Europe, where they have advanced a lot further. So this is very interesting. The USA, obviously, decided, and I think, Will they return? before the event own immigration experiment, if, um, the right will leave authorities, and the left will return. Um, of course, with energy DSA.

But, returning to AI, AI gives you a chance, when you don't have decrease in total GDP, even if you still ready to allow, you know, hundreds of millions people just gradually abandon AI and don't worry about it that they have much smaller, um, amount women of childbearing age age. So, one of questions regarding which, I I don't think Americans honestly express themselves, because we are now we act tough against AI. For example, mood as among Republicans, and among the Democrats falling so fast, that's terrible. And for It's crazy to me that we simply renounce, um...desire for the most important technology that ever- ever seen the world.

So, if you look on China, as far as Is AI important to them? Are they going? to develop it in such a way in a way that we just we will give up this here in the USA? Oh, I don't even think so. that's my opinion. It good it is documented that they are at full capacity speed ahead of AI. They are getting rid of ethical issues that We have it. Everything that they I'm worried, this is an opportunity. have technology that can significantly to increase their productivity, to work steadily and get ahead American technology.

Cover of The Economist last week, maybe the past a week, maybe 2 weeks therefore, was dedicated development of AI in China. Because that's what's interesting. The United States does not only against AI or ambiguously his favorable, China already combined AI with robotics. These two concepts go hand in hand. Collegiate governments countries of the Council cooperation Arab states Persian Gulf, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar–all of them invest in AI, then as they used to be invested in American real estate, development American weapons. Now they invest in AI, which does all this mean coast Gulf of Mexico .

Money, all this money countries of the Persian the bays go to Chinese development and Chinese development support artificial intelligence capabilities intelligence on Middle East. Are there any reports from about this? I am not saw the percentage, because I would said that a significant to some extent the reason why we started the war with Iran, consisted of in order to ensure investments of countries Persian Gulf in AI. Hmm, this is the first time I've heard of that. someone stated that a lot of these dollars now they are going to China.

Yes, one of the best places I would go to noticed, it's Edge. Uh, how is he? is it called? Edge Conglomerate. It military UAE conglomerate. UAE, who just came out of OPEC, UAE, which are becoming increasingly independent , UAE, which has just severed all ties with Iran. What is big? step by step, because people don't realize that most products UAE food comes from Iran. Oho. So, they find your food from somewhere else, and I don't know where it is, but Edge is fantastic an example of how the UAE united all their high-tech military infrastructure in one organization.

This one organization invests significantly in... Development of artificial intelligence from all over world. This applies to not only the United States. So I I agree that United States can try to provide investment, and I don't I know which one is specific. distribution structure now. I I am sure that such distribution the structure exists somewhere. Someone spent research. Who? I am not I know, but someone conducted research, to see which one part of the technology, that are purchased and invested in Middle East, comes from China compared to The United States.

My point is that China under the current will be ahead of the pace us in AI. If... On what? Simply based on their readiness invest, evolve, grow, to apply one's tolerance to risk for application of AI, their absence political debates regarding the replacement of workers places AI or something another, to theirs, for mine, I admit, is dark, but I still think that, uh, ethnically accurate interpretation. If people die, people die constantly in China, and about this not enough reported, therefore that they simply don't have reporting systems this is like in the United States States.

But if you Chinese in Beijing, where your parents too live in Beijing, and you I don't really like it. take care of...them, or maybe you you arrange for them private insurance , you don't give birth children intentionally; the last thing you said worry, this is a village, full of ignorant people, ruined, poor people, for 10, let's say, 2000 miles from here. Hmm. This is the last thing you are talking about. you are worried. AND Chinese government also not worried about them, because The Chinese government says: "Let them go, damn it." take it away.

We have batteries and renewable energy which we can connect to robot on the tractor and replace the entire farm." You can see how China brings it all together in such a way as United States combine all this into parts. We considering renewable energy separately from electric vehicles, separately from robotics, separate from artificial intelligence. China says :"No". They all are. the next step to replacing people who flow out of national income , replacing them with clean production with power, uh, in national GDP register. "It It's sad, man, but...

time of my stay in China they were insanely pragmatic . I feel that The Japanese are pragmatic, the Chinese 10 times. Hmm. Yes, um, that's more likely that grimace that I pretended like that ruthlessly effective. Uh, watch for by what they do with energy, compared to by what we do with energy, this madness. Only today in my live broadcast, the three of us shouted about it, because the whole my problem is, What is this to me? madness that the USA over-regulate energy production. We must allow the best and the smartest people to implement innovations in energy, to supply one's own energy, allow Microsoft is promoting Three Mile Island, to allow people to engage in nuclear energy, allow companies to produce one's own energy, make them responsible for own energy.

Okay, whatever, but let them improve this system. Me seems crazy, that we just let China run away with it. Um, this is incredibly frustrating. Does this sound like Is the country in decline? USA? No, now Oh, oh, oh, China? Yes, so I think China ..." has economic problems, of course. I think China believes in himself, and that will have a big value. Hmm, but first than we will reach this, I want understand what will be consequences if China will reach the ISI earlier than us. So, advanced general intelligence, or artificial general intelligence, still so far away.

I am not convinced that this something inevitable. When someone will reach the secondary school level, real question will consist in the fact that what did we do immediately before how to overcome this barrier to help to protect us systems, processes, management after of this event. What we we do now, even not close corresponds to to be able to to predict that will happen with advanced general with intelligence or with artificial general intellect. When is this it will happen, it will be literally what we did 3 months ago how they overcame this sound barrier.

If China will achieve this first, and if China will set the standard about what they are barriers, I have on mean what we say about absolutely unknown. Of course, this will be based on completely different ideological, economic, political, sociological purposes. than what would have happened, if they did that United States. Or any other western country. Because it is not it will be like this will be based on democracy. This is not will be based on support of the population. This will not be founded. on the development of humanity.

This will be based on optimized maximum usefulness tools. And this raises the question: if that's what it's on founded, will it become it once self-aware? And if it will realize that it's just a tool, how is it then Will he react? It... It's funny that you mentioned this because just before we started talking on camera, I was telling you about the book that I I've been reading since the 1980s, a book called " Hyperion "." Hyperion " , for those who are not superfan science fiction, uh, "Hyperion" is a book from the 1980s that got a whole bunch science fiction awards, which still very well known and practically unknown as mainstream book.

Hmm. When I started reading... I started reading it because wanted to explore, hmm, discipline that related to the creation of the world. It very detailed work, that is, you are constantly create a world in video games. But I don't I often do this. What happened to me? a turning point, when I was reading this book, because it was work read a book that builds the world. But a turning point became a representation artificial intelligence. 1980s book presented an artificial intelligence as very real question, concern, the anxiety we are talking about We are talking now.

She represents an idea artificial intelligence ( (U.S.I.) in the 1980s in science fiction stories about how humanity will look like in the post-Soviet era. AND for me it is what it is so powerful that makes this book so wonderful, but it's also is part of what forces us to have such strong dissenters points of view in our the country now regarding artificial intelligence. We are worried about U.S.I. We didn't even give permission create AI in those pace at which they could . What I want. understand, so I have very strong opinion that America must win this race.

Hmm. What we need to pay attention to above everything is a tendency humanity to tyranny. THERE ARE- Well, that's the only variable, from which China is not defended himself. Uh, That's why I'm afraid of the world, which looks like this... if we are worried about...uh, artificial intelligence...there's a whole bunch question marks, and we We don't even know...Uh, you don't need to search so far, because authoritarian leader with all the power in the universe...I have I mean, it would be like magic device, if it's true artificial...general intelligence...it's scary, because he will get in self-recursive cycle of improvement.

THERE ARE -e, and the theory is because at this moment it will be, you know, jump, transition and jump to artificial superintelligence. As only you will reach artificial superintelligence, then everything is fine, we pets...uh, ASI? IN us...uh, he has so different a system of values ​​that there is none in it beef? He is completely to be happy tool for... us to use, and he doesn't care. I doubt it. Um, so This is what I think: Okay, wait. Now we only have one thing you need to understand, namely: in we have two systems, one of which recently killed 45 million people.

Um, if your the data is at least somewhat accurate, they are quite ready allow hundreds millions of people to die, if that's what it is what is needed to just restore economy. Um, I don't. I want them to won the race. If they will win the race AI, will there be consequences, and if so, So which ones? That's what makes it so It is difficult to answer with any confidentiality. We we can...We can assume, but you are 100% right that the Chinese government, which now in power, is the government that allowed 45 to millions of people to die in the 70s.

50 years ago. Yes. This is not ancient. history. And here we are discussing, Are they ready? allow hundreds millions of people to die from now on ...2050. Doesn't seem to work. exaggeration to think that in a hundred years they will allow this will happen twice more than before, and will find a way to blame for this us. They will find a way to blame for this some external factor, right? But the idea that artificial intelligence falls into recursive loop self-improvement, would be somehow best for United States, than for China.

This is it the part where I don't know, is there enough evidence that to assume that is actually better. Because in the United In the States it is, most likely, it would be economically. This is almost guaranteed would be used for military purposes. I hope it would be used for some efficiency our energy infrastructure. AND our technologies, uh, our technological advantage in the market. But these are all the same places, where is it would be used and in China. But if I told you, that they are going create super soldier, you would said, "oh cool let them.

"Or would you said: "Yes, we must create own super soldier ". "I would said this for any Which country? But here that is fascinating. United States always were imperial state, which always tried design your own force abroad. China to a large extent, not only during Mao's time, but and before that, even after Shi Shang Kai-shi, was largely regional island state, attempts to save China was quite hardened from the point in terms of trying to rule as much as possible part of the world. But when was it?

period? God, years, I don't know. But it wasn't...It wasn't was centralized the government that tried to do it. Truth. Truth? It was strange. kind of barbaric patrimony, competing kingdoms, what exactly and it happened in Europe and with indigenous Americans here in United States. If we compare governments with governments, or would use China overall artificial industry (AI) ) to transform on the super cop the state and superpowerful defense shell with opportunity design economic and political threats to around the world? Or he would also create military potential to be able to to invade United States?

Guaranteed, United States would arm it to to be able to invade China. But we never We will invade China. It will all be cyber. I I'm worried about everything. cyberwarfare. And if, um if we get it , then we definitely need it we will use. We would they said that we use it for good purposes, but we would definitely used it to to see everything we we want to see, to control everything that we need to control, but that it will be done against us. For me it is arms race.

It is best to understand it like a race for nuclear weapons. And just like that in the case of nuclear weapon, exactly the spread stops it use, because you have mutual guaranteed destruction . Now I don't think so. this would work like this with artificial intellect. I think that they literally will try to deploy artificial intelligence as soon as possible and more fiercely. And to you need artificial intelligence that will stop these attacks, and it will look like spy confrontation against a spy, with artificial intelligence against artificial intelligence.

This is mine. the feeling of what it's like is happening, so you you can't just to allow, as if I China, I am like this: I am not can I allow the US have this and I have this no. And if we are the USA, we can't let them have it, but we don't have a mother. I quite happy to live in a world where they doing their job, develop it as soon as possible, they make it more efficient, and yes, Great, received. I I completely understand.

My advice to every country —to acquire own AI. Not let no one to control another your access to literal intelligence. That, against What I am saying is that that the US is thriving so long. They completely lost with field of view the fact that one day someone another can you to slap, pointing, What to do? And this will be absolutely cold glad that you felt that America deserves it, or What's so strange about them? think. This is like: Brother, we must to be in this related.

And likewise, how was ours Manhattan project to make sure that we we will be the first to receive nuclear weapons, uh, us need make sure that we we strive for this technology. Firstly, because when her use for positive things, she will be the most transformational. technology when- something. They already they are doing it now. It one type of cancer, just melanoma, but they apply for patent for the ability make mRNA vaccines based on actual the tumor you have. AND to force the immune system your body system recognize it and attack.

Well, this would not have happened without AI. AND if you want to talk about to speed this up and to force him work with everyone other types of cancer, you will need AI. AND the fact that AI can to fold the proteins like this way, create new proteins and invent medicine, and I I mean, it is so. many things. And people they do it, but it will increase costs for energy. Yes, because your fool is excessive regulated the energy sector and didn't allow it there continue innovations like this made in China, where their access to energy almost vertical, because they apply so much effort, right?

coal, or solar energy, or that's nuclear energy. They just get it. to your point of view, for them energy, AI, technological advantage, cost Life is all one. AND, man, in the USA we we have...just us heads are spinning at random. It madness. The initial question, which you had was: that will happen when someone Will it break through the USI? And that's why I don't think that it will not be limited. This is a recursive loop. So, it can happen cyberattack, which will start a war with the USSR.

Let's assume that we we are now participating in the race for the USI, it would be It's great to say that we we are now participating in the race for the U.S.S.I. Of course, it seems that we are competing with tied with laces, and China is competing with two separate shoes. But if we are participating in AI races and AI races, where the final score is line, then we even won't have to to worry about superintelligence. If This is the race we are in. we participate, so how only the IAU will appear, will appear soon message:" Cyberwar is the simplest first step, but you don't care need shoes for places.

Maybe it's not necessarily human shoes. Right. " Now the matter it comes to the point that China has robots, electric cars and renewable energy , which can be set on these electric cars. Now you have automated tanks , automated howitzers, automated lines logistical supply, automated boats that deliver new weapons, everything is automated, powered by the sun , from the wind, from remote chargers stations that are simply are floating in the sky. Who knows what? Yes. But the thing is that new technologies are born against the background military using.

Hmm. Here Where did our AI come from? All this comes from military cases using. The Chinese will do the same. So, whatever what a breakthrough, what a will take place with artificial intelligence ( SHII), will take place first in in military terms. AND only from success military experiments will be defined secondary options using. Therefore, invasion is not means invasion human. Intrusion maybe literally to mean what we now we see in Ukraine. Just armies drones. Drones, are intended for to do who knows what, and, I mean, a drone can fly in the hand, drone battalion can fly and to do all the hard work, dirty work, to provide everything command and management territory and set a perimeter, and just wait until a person will arrive, five or ten people.

Then it may come a series of robots and create in advance mounted command center and everything like that, so people literally simple come in, sit down computer-based terminals, and now they control thousand square miles. All this is done. because the AI ​​took participation in ground drone battles, naval battles, naval battles, satellite observational, cyberwarfare. This is not one or the other; that's all above. Exactly this is how AI tries to implement in our conflict now: war planning, mission planning, actual delivery ammunition, etc. So I appreciate your remarks on cyberwarfare, but to think that an invasion will not be part of equation in future.

I think that China does not want send a million men on the ship to the United States, but if they had opportunity once in nearby future send automated boats across the pacific ocean they would do it. It's hard for me to imagine that could this be push, but possibilities exactly would be if we let's continue with this by. So this is not can be denied. It is harder to imagine whether will remain United Are the States a superpower? Yes. I think I agree. While there is parity, there is and containment.

But if China is really the first will reach the UHI, it will mean that they were the first to monetize AI. This means that they are much surpassed ours economic advantage long before they ever would send troops to the United States. I wonder if I I wonder what if they were the first to reach the secondary school level, and then quickly arrived to...I know you trying to avoid ASI, but I think that they are almost the same the phenomenon itself. Good. Uh, the first thing I do is I'm saying, "Hey guys, I understand.

And here it is list of requirements. Stop doing this, start doing that Be that. And if you Agree, that's all. It will be fine. Okay, you didn't do the first one step, so now I I'll show you all this. outright force. Boom, all yours power grid disabled, that whatever. Uh, she is turns it on again to You guys saw it, what we can really do to do it. Stop it. to bother and Get in line. I much more I'm more worried about this than about bots- terminators who appear because to control people hard.

So the more You make enemies, appearing and trying to shoot , the bigger the problem you create for yourself . If you just give them to understand: " Look, we can strangle you somehow When. It makes no sense. Why do we do this? Let's just "Let's get in line." IN I have this feeling, that it will be something similar. This is interesting. This is very western way thinking. The whole idea is that they will announce about your capabilities, will threaten, will wait for silent silence , will demonstrate, that they have these opportunities.

Look what they are made in Hong Kong. China, China is acting completely different than United States. They create opportunities , they don't tell anyone that they are these opportunities have. They deploy these opportunities, because receive an element surprises, deploying opportunities, not announcing them. So, they deployed their legal opportunities in Hong Kong. They deployed their police opportunities in Hong Kong. All this was made for so that when the time comes take control Hong Kong, that was literally a click fingers, and thousands police officers, fulfilling legal orders, beat rioters on the streets.

So, for me, more likely, what are they will use ZVO, they don't tell anyone They won't tell you. They will use this HEI selectively, so that check yours opportunities in United States. Will be disconnected power grid. Not warn United States. The network will be disconnected. Will turn it on again network. Okay, now. we know we can to do it. Can we we attack water supply? Or can we attack, er, energy, er, renewable sources energy? Can we attack large industrial, uh, technological industries California? Can we we will only aim at one company?

Or can we close Salesforce, but save Google work? And if they can do all this, now they know that they have such strength. So they just launch this energy, turn off everything, and then United States They say: "Someone, "Help us." AND then appear Chinese. "Hey, we have there are drones by chance, robots and boats that can deliver you food, water and portable gas energy, whatever. We can help you help. Same, as we are the first created a vaccine against COVID, we can first to offer you solution for your mass, incomprehensible, incorrigible, uh, network disconnection.

This does not necessarily have to be like: "Hey, we we rattle our weapons, We rattle our weapons. Here ships pass through ocean with cannons, flags and trumpets. "This is American case. Truth? Here the president says: “We we are going to send military -sea group aircraft carriers to Iran. I tell you, now we "We do it." Now you are in the news every day see new ones satellite images, which are already arriving. « This is very American way conflict management. Yes, well said. I I think that's very appropriate.

opinion. Um, okay, so in this crazy world the only thing that can make someone to put on the right place, this is self-belief. They believe they can do it make. They believe, that have a mandate, whether mandate from heaven to be the middle kingdom, how does he/she think about himself/herself China, or once upon a time, when America believed that we were shining a citadel on a hill, and we were a place that low moral authority, and we were righteous. God's grace. Yes. I don't think so.

America America definitely split. Maybe there are some people, like me, maybe there is a group of us who still believe to America. What, you know, we are ready hard to work to to try to be the best and, you know, really do something about world. But I think that many people lost faith in America, they don't have will to defend America, they don't have the will to reunite people, something like that. Emm, when you look at freedom in China against their will..." In America, hmm, or Do you see what's there?

something substantial that will deterministic in this future conflict between two great powers? Even the question I I think it underestimates. way of thinking Chinese. I don't think so. what do they think about will. As if they weren't are concerned about freedom of the Chinese people. Their job is to in order to do this another thing. For example, My job is to produce. widgets. But do they do it? this is because they are afraid, or because they truly believe that, Damn it, we really did something. We manage this.

Absolutely. Absolutely they believe in it, therefore what are you...So I'm 46 years. If I were 46- year-old Chinese, this would mean that from the day my birth and before today I saw fastest growth in China for all time. Saw the fastest growth among all. Yes. For all time. Yes. I have walked the path. from...maybe still from earthen floor to to be second in size economy in the world by my life, and I still I am in full bloom. of working age. Yes. So do I have any at all?

the idea that somehow How are we...Decline? No, it's like we're still we are growing rapidly, guys. We...We...uh, yes some difficulties due to artificial intelligence and technology. There are some difficulties due to these crazy white people people on the other side oceans, which are constantly They start wars. There seem to be some difficulties. , but, man, I I belong to the greatest generation. Yes. We still believe that the greatest A generation has already passed. We wrote about this books. They may not think about this, but they have it.

They have will. They have self-belief. And I think, that America and Europe are struggling with the fact that lost this faith. So you have China, who believes in himself, Islam believes in itself, and now you get this one crazy upheaval in the West, because we don't believe in himself. We are trying to go face to face with Iran. We certainly we will lose this battle. THERE ARE- Well, Europe is trying to stand up for oneself and to say: "Wait, we have a culture, and she deserves it protection".

"But they really can't to interest people in this, therefore they continue invite people to your country or not they let people in there, which are not at all interested in assimilation. Uh, and it seems to me that if you wanted to say which one the biggest problem is me I would answer exactly like that. I would agree with that. I I would agree with this, because you...And I...I don't I will name names. But when you say that There are definitely people who believe in the United States, I believe that majority Americans said b: "I believe in the United States.

But the next thing, what did you need I would ask them, is that how you distribute your resources to demonstrate this faith? And all those Americans who bought a weapon because were afraid that someone can try steal from them during COVID, which was with a huge splash Americans, actually have faith in that they invest that contradicts the belief in long-term America's stability . And all those people who started translating part of their investments in foreign stocks or translate part of their investments in foreign real estate , all those people who bought a second one passport, or those people, who sought second passport...

claim that they have Irish, Italian, Spanish, Canadian origin. Like, there is many people. Tens thousands of Americans, who still live in United States, which are probably would say: "I believe in United States, but I'm playing it safe. I I am convinced that if I am wrong, then I ready for this." AND it's a completely different belief in America, than, in my opinion opinion, the one we are talking about we say when we are talking about innate faith that the Chinese can have Pull. They, for example, they don't hear about Chinese millionaires who trying to leave China.

You hear about British millionaires who leaving the Great Britain, but you you don't really hear about a large number unfair migration of the super-rich just because China will control your capital until death . They will be to hurt you to the end times. But, hmm, I definitely I think China traveled from the person who saw herself, as she rises from earthen floor to one of the most spectacular skyscrapers on planet Earth, and will think: "Yes, this "quite special." « They are probably significant to some extent they think that...well, authoritarianism works, so I don't have one big claims.

So I don't envy them for it. I, of course, all this I understand. Maybe I I am talking about something. another, namely: I am sure received a weapon during COVID, because things actually became strange. On the Internet posted a photo of my house, on which it was written: "I am not I remember if it was there. it says "eat" rich", or "burn "rich." I think there was "burn" "rich." So I I'm literally looking at fiery Los Angeles, seeing his house on photos where people they say that.

Yes, so in that moment is healthy Reason won, and I thought: "I'm going to make sure that I protected". "Me reduces to the fact that in the country exists a huge split, and some people are active hate their own country. And for me it is means that when I looking at the anti- artificial moods when I'm looking at the anti- artificial, they they call it billionaires, I I call it anti-entrepreneurial moods. Uh, when I I look at the fact that what people are saying directly this, and I'm talking about people from American emphasis that we must destroy empire.

They are not They talk about empire. We are in the belly of the empire. We must destroy empire. It seems so they are looking at America. What are they they want to hang American flag up and down. What they want get rid of borders. What do they want, um, to smuggle migrants legally, It doesn't matter. Make sure that they have the right voice. Cancel Senate. Make it just clean, um, the number of people who vote for democracy. Here I am. I think: "Oh." Allegedly, when you have a country, which is in such a state internal danger , you find yourself in a very weak point." Not I will say that we were before were not here.

We have was real civil war, and we don't have any now real civil war. It may be cold, but It's definitely not hot. So America survived worse, but, friends, for My life is different. This is completely different. texture. It's simple. fantastic Chinese comparison your age with where he is now is located. This, well, You know, I already I mentioned to you earlier, that in one of our first conversations, I think it was 3 years ago, miniature was about that War is approaching. AND now we live in 2026 year, and the war in Israel, war in Ukraine, war in Iran.

We are talking about when it will be war over Taiwan. People thought I was I'm just teasing, but Yes. The second conversation, which we were, perhaps, 6 months after this, the miniature was about leaving United States to 2030. And now we we are talking about active people. And here it is what is so fascinating: in The United States is people who believe that actually help To the United States, doing all the things you just said, talking about the breakup empire and letting in migrants, limiting their legality or illegality, robbing the rich and dissolving the Senate.

These people think that help To the United States. So, if this is a change, which we only saw for 3 years of conversations between by us, as they will look like the next 7 years? And how? will look the next 25 years? And in everything has ideals move faster pace, so we don't must face 25 years of chaos, but these 25 years of chaos potentially will focus on five or seven years of chaos . Oh my God. I've been saying this for a long time. I I know what we are talking about.

about this offline too. There is no un-American to think about what you you can do to take care of yourself, my family, my inheritance, yours wealth. This is not makes you non-American. It makes you responsible. You would they said he was healthy Does reason win? Yes. But the problem is, that there will always be people who will say that if you are preparing for something else, then you not real American. Yes, I understand that, and I think I am smart. argument, but, hmm, mine the main thesis is in that if you have so divided people, you can't create momentum for forward movement to to confront Iran, Russia, China.

You you just can't get them to win. And therefore, when I remember, hmm, even World War II war. The first thing I had to do Churchill, this to force everyone to believe in England. He had to force everyone to unite in order to to say that we We are going to stand our ground. And that is who we are. We are not from those people who retreat. And this gave to people feeling of reminder about what theirs was like national identity. And we should have done this make.

And I really I don't want to see us. will have to go through all the way to someone instructed on us weapons before we We will do it. Hmm, but we really need decide what we are for we stand for, what we stand for ready to fight, that we are trying build and create. We should start think long term. We are not we can think election cycles. We must literally to teach our children because of what it means to be American. And now we are far from the only one letter.

I won't say, that there are no people who they do this, but I I say that we are far from a single message, and This is very frustrating. If you think through through the prism of history, I don't I can give an example. when we united, not having become a victim enemy. Yes. September 11 united us. I think that Kennedy assassination united us. Yes. World War II united us. And ours The enemies realized that if not provoked of the dragon, at the dragon, by essentially, constantly indigestion occurs stomach.

Mmm. So, for the United There would be states significant deviation from our historical testimonies, if they found a way unite and did it enough quickly to overcome advantage that some of these authoritarian countries already have. Yes. I will try in live broadcast. I really started to force oneself to talk about what unifying ideas? Than we must admire? How are we? should think? What are we must tell children? This is a drop in the a very large ocean, but I definitely I will continue. attempts. Let's see what happens.

This will work. Well, this is my certain optimism. You recently showed some optimism in your book. What are you for? hope that people its will use? Because you left...I moved away from personal development. I really like it. I liked it while I was there. was doing this, but discovered that it was, well, me I mean, partly it's just that what I had to say. AND then partly this consisted in the fact that to force people actually to change a lot- very difficult. Lot easier to navigate on children and just not to allow them to get there first in a bad rut.

But what you want people to learned from this book ? So, I will succeed. new book September 8. It is called " "Outsmart everyone," and its purpose— very bold name, friend. Very brave. But the purpose of the book, The essence is that to justify the name. I want everyone who will read this book, was able to outsmart everyone around. Because where my experience at the CIA, where my experience entrepreneur, where is my first experience millionaire in my family.

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