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Civil unrest in Minnesota reveals a dangerous feedback loop: aggressive ICE enforcement meets organized resistance, creating perfect conditions for escalation. Both sides believe they're morally right and willing to fight. The key insight: populist moments arise not from individual leaders, but from

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Key Takeaway

Civil unrest in Minnesota reveals a dangerous feedback loop: aggressive ICE enforcement meets organized resistance, creating perfect conditions for escalation. Both sides believe they're morally right and willing to fight. The key insight: populist moments arise not from individual leaders, but from economic extraction systems that shrink the pie everyone's fighting over. Without returning to prosperity, this tension only intensifies.

Episode Overview

This episode analyzes the escalating immigration enforcement crisis in Minneapolis, where 2,000-3,000 ICE agents have descended on Somali neighborhoods, triggering violent protests and aggressive federal response. The hosts debate whether Trump is orchestrating chaos for political gain or if he's merely a symptom of deeper populist currents. They explore how economic extraction through central banking creates conditions where both left and right feel justified using force. The conversation examines qualified immunity, media narratives, and historical parallels while predicting this situation will worsen without fundamental economic change.

Main Insights

Self-Reinforcing Escalation Cycle

The Minnesota situation demonstrates a dangerous feedback loop where increased federal enforcement triggers more resistance, which justifies even more aggressive tactics. Each side's actions validate the other's worst fears, creating conditions where tragedy becomes inevitable rather than possible.

Winter Effect on Civil Unrest

Cold weather may be temporarily muting what could otherwise be explosive protests. The Renee Good shooting might have triggered widespread riots in summer conditions, but winter weather creates a natural dampening effect on public mobilization and sustained street presence.

Learned Skepticism from George Floyd

The public's response to current events is shaped by lessons from 2020's George Floyd protests. People are now more cautious about rushing to judgment, recognizing both government overreach and organized agitation tactics, making them less likely to immediately pick sides.

Propaganda Ammunition on Both Sides

Videos of agents yanking disabled women from cars and protesters ramming ICE vehicles give each side exactly what they need to portray the other as villains. This creates parallel realities where both sides have legitimate-seeming evidence supporting their narrative.

The Populism Root Cause Theory

Trump isn't the cause of political chaos but a symptom of populist conditions created by economic extraction through central banking since 1913. When the pie shrinks due to systemic wealth extraction, people fight harder for their piece, creating conditions where populist figures thrive.

Notable Quotes

"I told you if you guys get in my way, I will arrest you. You're going to observe all you want."

ICE Agent

"You had anger issues as a kid, didn't you? Were your parents present?"

Protester

"I love my job. Thank you. I can't believe I get paid for this. I do this for free. Really? I get 200k."

ICE Agent

"All it takes for evil to reign is for good men to do nothing."

Tom Billy

"Trump as a archetype of a human being would never become an electable politician in any environment that wasn't already populist."

Tom Billy

Action Items

Suggested exercises inspired by the conversation.

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    Recognize Escalation Patterns Before Engaging

    Before joining protests or taking strong political stances, identify whether you're entering a self-reinforcing conflict cycle. Ask: will my action calm tensions or feed the feedback loop? Consider whether you're truly making a constitutional stand or being manipulated by agitators on either side.

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    Distinguish Protest Tactics by Risk Level

    Understand three levels of protest: legal protest (no arrest risk), civil disobedience (accept arrest without resistance), and active resistance (physical confrontation with authorities). Be clear-headed about which level you're choosing and the real consequences, including potential violence.

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    Protect Yourself from Economic Extraction

    Like those who understand 'rubber in the rain,' learn how elites protect themselves from monetary inflation through asset ownership. Don't just hold cash—acquire assets (real estate, businesses, stocks) that maintain value when central banks expand money supply.

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    Seek Prosperity Over Political Victory

    Recognize that without returning to broad-based economic prosperity, political tensions will only intensify regardless of which party wins. Focus energy on building wealth and economic stability rather than winning tribal political battles that don't address root causes.

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Good morning everybody. Welcome to Good morning everybody. Welcome to another episode of the Tom Billy Show another episode of the Tom Billy Show another episode of the Tom Billy Show live. We are here and the world is live. We are here and the world is live. We are here and the world is popping off. It is wild out there. popping off. It is wild out there. popping off. It is wild out there. Another layer of Somali fraud is being Another layer of Somali fraud is being Another layer of Somali fraud is being detailed as tensions continue to detailed as tensions continue to detailed as tensions continue to skyrocket in Minnesota as roughly skyrocket in Minnesota as roughly skyrocket in Minnesota as roughly somewhere around 2 to 3,000 ICE agents somewhere around 2 to 3,000 ICE agents somewhere around 2 to 3,000 ICE agents descend on the city as part of the descend on the city as part of the descend on the city as part of the largest immigration enforcement effort largest immigration enforcement effort largest immigration enforcement effort ever. Steven Miller is doing his part to ever. Steven Miller is doing his part to ever. Steven Miller is doing his part to dial the tension way up by sending a dial the tension way up by sending a dial the tension way up by sending a public message that ICE agents have public message that ICE agents have public message that ICE agents have immunity when acting in service of their immunity when acting in service of their immunity when acting in service of their duties. It's a little questionable. duties. It's a little questionable. duties. It's a little questionable. We'll go into that more later. Trump has We'll go into that more later. Trump has We'll go into that more later. Trump has terminated Somalian's temporary terminated Somalian's temporary terminated Somalian's temporary protected status. Iran's turmoil protected status. Iran's turmoil protected status. Iran's turmoil certainly continues with the Iranian certainly continues with the Iranian certainly continues with the Iranian government themselves reporting 2,000 government themselves reporting 2,000 government themselves reporting 2,000 dead and unofficial estimates going as dead and unofficial estimates going as dead and unofficial estimates going as high as 12,000. A bipartisan bill has high as 12,000. A bipartisan bill has high as 12,000. A bipartisan bill has been put forward that would stop Trump been put forward that would stop Trump been put forward that would stop Trump from making a move on Greenland. from making a move on Greenland. from making a move on Greenland. Something I'll be covering in more Something I'll be covering in more Something I'll be covering in more detail in my upcoming deep dive. So, detail in my upcoming deep dive. So, detail in my upcoming deep dive. So, keep your eyes peeled for that. The US keep your eyes peeled for that. The US keep your eyes peeled for that. The US just declared three chapters of the just declared three chapters of the just declared three chapters of the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist Muslim Brotherhood terrorist Muslim Brotherhood terrorist organizations, and I believe it was organizations, and I believe it was organizations, and I believe it was Saudi Arabia that said, "We support Saudi Arabia that said, "We support Saudi Arabia that said, "We support this. It's wild. Bill and Hillary this. It's wild. Bill and Hillary this. It's wild. Bill and Hillary Clinton are to be held in contempt of Clinton are to be held in contempt of Clinton are to be held in contempt of Congress for failing to show up for a Congress for failing to show up for a Congress for failing to show up for a deposition regarding Drew Epstein." deposition regarding Drew Epstein." deposition regarding Drew Epstein." Epstein no shows. And I'm gonna put this Epstein no shows. And I'm gonna put this Epstein no shows. And I'm gonna put this one in conspiracy corner. Former Trump one in conspiracy corner. Former Trump one in conspiracy corner. Former Trump campaign advisor says, I cannot believe campaign advisor says, I cannot believe campaign advisor says, I cannot believe this is real. Uh that a RICO style this is real. Uh that a RICO style this is real. Uh that a RICO style charge or charges are likely to be charge or charges are likely to be charge or charges are likely to be brought against the Democratic party brought against the Democratic party brought against the Democratic party that will treat them like an organized that will treat them like an organized that will treat them like an organized crime syndicate. That seems a little too crime syndicate. That seems a little too crime syndicate. That seems a little too crazy to believe, but nonetheless, there crazy to believe, but nonetheless, there crazy to believe, but nonetheless, there we are. Welcome everybody. Happy we are. Welcome everybody. Happy we are. Welcome everybody. Happy Wednesday, Drew. It's just getting Wednesday, Drew. It's just getting Wednesday, Drew. It's just getting crazier and crazier in Minnesota. crazier and crazier in Minnesota. crazier and crazier in Minnesota. >> It is literally getting crazier and >> It is literally getting crazier and >> It is literally getting crazier and crazier in a lot of places, not just in crazier in a lot of places, not just in crazier in a lot of places, not just in Minnesota, but Minnesota is wild. I Minnesota, but Minnesota is wild. I Minnesota, but Minnesota is wild. I think this is rapidly becoming a think this is rapidly becoming a think this is rapidly becoming a legitimate flash point. legitimate flash point. legitimate flash point. >> Yeah. Before we get into some of the >> Yeah. Before we get into some of the >> Yeah. Before we get into some of the videos and some of the reactions, uh, videos and some of the reactions, uh, videos and some of the reactions, uh, set us up. What's going on out there? set us up. What's going on out there? set us up. What's going on out there? >> All right. On January 13th, up to 3,000 >> All right. On January 13th, up to 3,000 >> All right. On January 13th, up to 3,000 ICE and Border Patrol agents descended ICE and Border Patrol agents descended ICE and Border Patrol agents descended on Minnesota to conduct door-to-door on Minnesota to conduct door-to-door on Minnesota to conduct door-to-door raids in Minneapolis neighborhoods with raids in Minneapolis neighborhoods with raids in Minneapolis neighborhoods with large Somali populations. As part of the large Somali populations. As part of the large Somali populations. As part of the largest US immigration enforcement largest US immigration enforcement largest US immigration enforcement effort ever, they arrested over a dozen effort ever, they arrested over a dozen effort ever, they arrested over a dozen and deported via plane dozens more. The and deported via plane dozens more. The and deported via plane dozens more. The public backlash has been massive and public backlash has been massive and public backlash has been massive and appears to be escalating as the Trump appears to be escalating as the Trump appears to be escalating as the Trump administration continues dialing up the administration continues dialing up the administration continues dialing up the pressure as protesters and agitators pressure as protesters and agitators pressure as protesters and agitators continue to disrupt the immigration continue to disrupt the immigration continue to disrupt the immigration enforcement efforts. Protesters have enforcement efforts. Protesters have enforcement efforts. Protesters have attacked agents, blocked streets, and attacked agents, blocked streets, and attacked agents, blocked streets, and rammed vehicles, prompting ICE to deploy rammed vehicles, prompting ICE to deploy rammed vehicles, prompting ICE to deploy pepper balls, tear gas, and smoke. Yank pepper balls, tear gas, and smoke. Yank pepper balls, tear gas, and smoke. Yank people out of their cars, cutting off people out of their cars, cutting off people out of their cars, cutting off seat belts, all manner of craziness. And seat belts, all manner of craziness. And seat belts, all manner of craziness. And obviously, tensions are just absolutely obviously, tensions are just absolutely obviously, tensions are just absolutely skyhigh since the January 7th shooting skyhigh since the January 7th shooting skyhigh since the January 7th shooting of US citizen Renee Good. Representative of US citizen Renee Good. Representative of US citizen Renee Good. Representative Ilhan Omar, whose name is constantly Ilhan Omar, whose name is constantly Ilhan Omar, whose name is constantly associated with the ongoing fraud associated with the ongoing fraud associated with the ongoing fraud investigations, though we will see uh in investigations, though we will see uh in investigations, though we will see uh in the state is now starting or excuse me, the state is now starting or excuse me, the state is now starting or excuse me, is now stating that the progressive is now stating that the progressive is now stating that the progressive caucus in Congress has adopted the caucus in Congress has adopted the caucus in Congress has adopted the official stance that ICE funding should official stance that ICE funding should official stance that ICE funding should be denied until appropriate reforms can be denied until appropriate reforms can be denied until appropriate reforms can be carried out in immigration be carried out in immigration be carried out in immigration enforcement. So, she wants less, much enforcement. So, she wants less, much enforcement. So, she wants less, much less immigration enforcement. That one less immigration enforcement. That one less immigration enforcement. That one is probably not deeply surprising. is probably not deeply surprising. is probably not deeply surprising. Federal officials have intensified Federal officials have intensified Federal officials have intensified warnings and pursued charges related to warnings and pursued charges related to warnings and pursued charges related to obstruction of justice amid ongoing obstruction of justice amid ongoing obstruction of justice amid ongoing protests against ICE operations in protests against ICE operations in protests against ICE operations in Minnesota. The Department of Homeland Minnesota. The Department of Homeland Minnesota. The Department of Homeland Security and Department of Justice have Security and Department of Justice have Security and Department of Justice have repeatedly framed certain protester repeatedly framed certain protester repeatedly framed certain protester actions such as filming agents, though actions such as filming agents, though actions such as filming agents, though that is absolutely legal. Following that is absolutely legal. Following that is absolutely legal. Following vehicles, blocking roadways, or vehicles, blocking roadways, or vehicles, blocking roadways, or interfering with arrests as potential interfering with arrests as potential interfering with arrests as potential federal crimes. The most aggressive federal crimes. The most aggressive federal crimes. The most aggressive statement though from the administration statement though from the administration statement though from the administration comes from your boy Stephen Miller, the comes from your boy Stephen Miller, the comes from your boy Stephen Miller, the eternal voice of understatement and eternal voice of understatement and eternal voice of understatement and restraint. He would like to remind ICE restraint. He would like to remind ICE restraint. He would like to remind ICE officers and we will show this video and officers and we will show this video and officers and we will show this video and clearly in my opinion the public as well clearly in my opinion the public as well clearly in my opinion the public as well that ICE agents have qualified immunity that ICE agents have qualified immunity that ICE agents have qualified immunity while on the job. He didn't say while on the job. He didn't say while on the job. He didn't say qualified, he just said immunity. But qualified, he just said immunity. But qualified, he just said immunity. But the reality is it is qualified immunity. the reality is it is qualified immunity. the reality is it is qualified immunity. It seems clear to me that we right now It seems clear to me that we right now It seems clear to me that we right now are locked in a selfreinforcing are locked in a selfreinforcing are locked in a selfreinforcing feedback loop that is guaranteed to feedback loop that is guaranteed to feedback loop that is guaranteed to deliver more tragedy. The agents the deliver more tragedy. The agents the deliver more tragedy. The agents the administrations um are sent the administrations um are sent the administrations um are sent the administration is sending to the area. administration is sending to the area. administration is sending to the area. The more they do that the more The more they do that the more The more they do that the more protesters and trained agitators to be protesters and trained agitators to be protesters and trained agitators to be honest are going to resist. the more honest are going to resist. the more honest are going to resist. the more they resist, the more force the they resist, the more force the they resist, the more force the administration is going to apply and administration is going to apply and administration is going to apply and it's just going to continue to create it's just going to continue to create it's just going to continue to create problems and escalate to the point where problems and escalate to the point where problems and escalate to the point where I'm going to guess something snaps, I'm going to guess something snaps, I'm going to guess something snaps, something even more horrible happens and something even more horrible happens and something even more horrible happens and you get the protesters who feel you get the protesters who feel you get the protesters who feel completely justified and really going completely justified and really going completely justified and really going riot. And then you get the US government riot. And then you get the US government riot. And then you get the US government deciding that they're going to send in deciding that they're going to send in deciding that they're going to send in the National Guard or whatever increased the National Guard or whatever increased the National Guard or whatever increased um presence they're going to decide to um presence they're going to decide to um presence they're going to decide to have. But this one does not end calmly have. But this one does not end calmly have. But this one does not end calmly would be my assumption at this point. would be my assumption at this point. would be my assumption at this point. >> So you think it's just going to be more >> So you think it's just going to be more >> So you think it's just going to be more and more stoked up? What do you think is and more stoked up? What do you think is and more stoked up? What do you think is the ultimate boiling point is going to the ultimate boiling point is going to the ultimate boiling point is going to be? Cuz I thought honestly Renee Good be? Cuz I thought honestly Renee Good be? Cuz I thought honestly Renee Good was going to be that. I thought once was going to be that. I thought once was going to be that. I thought once they seen that people were going to they seen that people were going to they seen that people were going to riot, protest, and they were going to riot, protest, and they were going to riot, protest, and they were going to kind of do National Guard shut it down kind of do National Guard shut it down kind of do National Guard shut it down like that, but it seems that it's still like that, but it seems that it's still like that, but it seems that it's still even escalating higher than that. even escalating higher than that. even escalating higher than that. >> Yeah. I don't I think partly because >> Yeah. I don't I think partly because >> Yeah. I don't I think partly because it's the winter, you get a blunting it's the winter, you get a blunting it's the winter, you get a blunting effect. So, in the summer that might effect. So, in the summer that might effect. So, in the summer that might have been the thing that spilled have been the thing that spilled have been the thing that spilled everything over, but if you watch enough everything over, but if you watch enough everything over, but if you watch enough of these videos, you see that this of these videos, you see that this of these videos, you see that this really is escalating. So, it isn't that really is escalating. So, it isn't that really is escalating. So, it isn't that um oh, that one was just taken in stride um oh, that one was just taken in stride um oh, that one was just taken in stride and nobody's bothered. Uh it is and nobody's bothered. Uh it is and nobody's bothered. Uh it is definitely ramping things up. I think definitely ramping things up. I think definitely ramping things up. I think some of what is possibly muting the some of what is possibly muting the some of what is possibly muting the effect is we've been through this once effect is we've been through this once effect is we've been through this once before and in the fullness of time, before and in the fullness of time, before and in the fullness of time, people start to realize that there's a people start to realize that there's a people start to realize that there's a lot of complexities that they didn't lot of complexities that they didn't lot of complexities that they didn't necessarily take into consideration when necessarily take into consideration when necessarily take into consideration when this was all popping off. And so this was all popping off. And so this was all popping off. And so hopefully people are stopping their hopefully people are stopping their hopefully people are stopping their emotions from running away with them. emotions from running away with them. emotions from running away with them. Um, Um, Um, >> what do you mean we've been through this >> what do you mean we've been through this >> what do you mean we've been through this once before? once before? once before? >> So with George Floyd, so as everything >> So with George Floyd, so as everything >> So with George Floyd, so as everything escalated in the summer of love and the escalated in the summer of love and the escalated in the summer of love and the initial sweep of all that was I remember initial sweep of all that was I remember initial sweep of all that was I remember going through it and being like, I don't going through it and being like, I don't going through it and being like, I don't even know what to think about this. And even know what to think about this. And even know what to think about this. And so when that was all happening, people so when that was all happening, people so when that was all happening, people had not processed through any of this had not processed through any of this had not processed through any of this stuff. And so it looked like uh cop did stuff. And so it looked like uh cop did stuff. And so it looked like uh cop did bad thing and then it just all kicked bad thing and then it just all kicked bad thing and then it just all kicked off from there. off from there. off from there. >> Uh now that people have seen both the >> Uh now that people have seen both the >> Uh now that people have seen both the government acquisition of power and that government acquisition of power and that government acquisition of power and that there are there are there are >> paid agitators as I will call them that >> paid agitators as I will call them that >> paid agitators as I will call them that there is some sort of push that's being there is some sort of push that's being there is some sort of push that's being funded that's being organized that wants funded that's being organized that wants funded that's being organized that wants a destabilization within America. I a destabilization within America. I a destabilization within America. I think people are I I certainly am less think people are I I certainly am less think people are I I certainly am less trusting of either side of the story. trusting of either side of the story. trusting of either side of the story. So, I'm more of a hm I want to see how So, I'm more of a hm I want to see how So, I'm more of a hm I want to see how this plays out. I want to see exactly this plays out. I want to see exactly this plays out. I want to see exactly what's going on uh before like rushing what's going on uh before like rushing what's going on uh before like rushing in and saying this is exactly what in and saying this is exactly what in and saying this is exactly what happened. Everybody needs to get behind happened. Everybody needs to get behind happened. Everybody needs to get behind this. So, I have a feeling there's some this. So, I have a feeling there's some this. So, I have a feeling there's some of that. Uh but there's no question that of that. Uh but there's no question that of that. Uh but there's no question that the administration is ratcheting up, the administration is ratcheting up, the administration is ratcheting up, getting more violent. Uh if just getting more violent. Uh if just getting more violent. Uh if just watching people being yanked out of watching people being yanked out of watching people being yanked out of their cars, my thing is like even if their cars, my thing is like even if their cars, my thing is like even if like Okay, so there was a video of one like Okay, so there was a video of one like Okay, so there was a video of one woman who I don't know if we have this woman who I don't know if we have this woman who I don't know if we have this one, but one, but one, but >> we have it queued up. Um, so, okay, >> we have it queued up. Um, so, okay, >> we have it queued up. Um, so, okay, there's a video of a woman who the there's a video of a woman who the there's a video of a woman who the report is she turns down the street report is she turns down the street report is she turns down the street because she has a doctor's appointment. because she has a doctor's appointment. because she has a doctor's appointment. And so, uh, she's saying that she's, uh, And so, uh, she's saying that she's, uh, And so, uh, she's saying that she's, uh, disabled, I think. And it's like, even disabled, I think. And it's like, even disabled, I think. And it's like, even if this is a paid agitator, I'm just if this is a paid agitator, I'm just if this is a paid agitator, I'm just like, boys and girls, when you are like, boys and girls, when you are like, boys and girls, when you are acting like this, dragging people out, a acting like this, dragging people out, a acting like this, dragging people out, a young woman, young woman, young woman, you look at your screens, yanking her, you look at your screens, yanking her, you look at your screens, yanking her, throwing her to the ground, she's caught throwing her to the ground, she's caught throwing her to the ground, she's caught on her seatelt, they come in, they cut on her seatelt, they come in, they cut on her seatelt, they come in, they cut her seat belt out. It's like, uh, this her seat belt out. It's like, uh, this her seat belt out. It's like, uh, this is just absolutely is just absolutely is just absolutely catnip for agyprop. So, if you want to catnip for agyprop. So, if you want to catnip for agyprop. So, if you want to get people riled up, then you just show get people riled up, then you just show get people riled up, then you just show an endless stream of videos like this an endless stream of videos like this an endless stream of videos like this where no one is going to look at that where no one is going to look at that where no one is going to look at that and be like, "Okay, this woman is a and be like, "Okay, this woman is a and be like, "Okay, this woman is a complete tyrant." Well, I shouldn't say complete tyrant." Well, I shouldn't say complete tyrant." Well, I shouldn't say nobody. There's going to be people nobody. There's going to be people nobody. There's going to be people >> on the right that are going to make out >> on the right that are going to make out >> on the right that are going to make out like this is just absolute lawlessness. like this is just absolute lawlessness. like this is just absolute lawlessness. And what I see is pushing us towards the And what I see is pushing us towards the And what I see is pushing us towards the boiling point. And we have another video boiling point. And we have another video boiling point. And we have another video of an ICE agent who what I'll call takes of an ICE agent who what I'll call takes of an ICE agent who what I'll call takes the bait where people are um harassing the bait where people are um harassing the bait where people are um harassing him and saying, you know, I hope you're him and saying, you know, I hope you're him and saying, you know, I hope you're ashamed of yourself. Yeah, this one. And ashamed of yourself. Yeah, this one. And ashamed of yourself. Yeah, this one. And so and this guy just comes across in my so and this guy just comes across in my so and this guy just comes across in my opinion like uh a bit of a douche. And opinion like uh a bit of a douche. And opinion like uh a bit of a douche. And so it's like I guarantee that you've got so it's like I guarantee that you've got so it's like I guarantee that you've got some percentage of ICE agents that are some percentage of ICE agents that are some percentage of ICE agents that are going to snap. They're angry. They've going to snap. They're angry. They've going to snap. They're angry. They've got an axe to grind with who knows what got an axe to grind with who knows what got an axe to grind with who knows what >> and they're going to grind it. And so >> and they're going to grind it. And so >> and they're going to grind it. And so they're going to go over the top, do they're going to go over the top, do they're going to go over the top, do something that they shouldn't, give us something that they shouldn't, give us something that they shouldn't, give us an endless stream of videos where an endless stream of videos where an endless stream of videos where they're yanking people out uh of their they're yanking people out uh of their they're yanking people out uh of their cars. I think there was a guy that cars. I think there was a guy that cars. I think there was a guy that served in Iraq. He was a US citizen served in Iraq. He was a US citizen served in Iraq. He was a US citizen deployed to Iraq and he ended up getting deployed to Iraq and he ended up getting deployed to Iraq and he ended up getting detained for like 3 days. I I don't know detained for like 3 days. I I don't know detained for like 3 days. I I don't know that it was in Minnesota. It might have that it was in Minnesota. It might have that it was in Minnesota. It might have actually been in California, but anyway, actually been in California, but anyway, actually been in California, but anyway, you're going to get enough of those you're going to get enough of those you're going to get enough of those stories that that this is really going stories that that this is really going stories that that this is really going to start to get ugly. to start to get ugly. to start to get ugly. >> Uh so that's the the colliding forces >> Uh so that's the the colliding forces >> Uh so that's the the colliding forces that I see coming. Let's jump into this that I see coming. Let's jump into this that I see coming. Let's jump into this video of the guy talking to the video of the guy talking to the video of the guy talking to the protesters. I I >> told you if you guys get in my way, I >> told you if you guys get in my way, I >> told you if you guys get in my way, I will arrest you, will arrest you, will arrest you, >> sir. We're just observing. Please come. >> sir. We're just observing. Please come. >> sir. We're just observing. Please come. >> You're going to observe all you want. >> You're going to observe all you want. >> You're going to observe all you want. >> I am observing. Do you see me in the >> I am observing. Do you see me in the >> I am observing. Do you see me in the way? I am back. way? I am back. way? I am back. >> You had anger issues as a kid, didn't >> You had anger issues as a kid, didn't >> You had anger issues as a kid, didn't you? Were your parents present? you? Were your parents present? you? Were your parents present? >> And listen, I get it. um he's being >> And listen, I get it. um he's being >> And listen, I get it. um he's being trolled and they will troll him trolled and they will troll him trolled and they will troll him relentlessly. This is like um the relentlessly. This is like um the relentlessly. This is like um the paparazzi were notorious for this. paparazzi were notorious for this. paparazzi were notorious for this. >> They would see a celebrity and they >> They would see a celebrity and they >> They would see a celebrity and they would just pester them and pester them would just pester them and pester them would just pester them and pester them and pester them and pester them and then and pester them and pester them and then and pester them and pester them and then when they finally snap, they just start when they finally snap, they just start when they finally snap, they just start filming the two seconds before they go filming the two seconds before they go filming the two seconds before they go crazy and it's like whoa, this guy's crazy and it's like whoa, this guy's crazy and it's like whoa, this guy's completely out of line. So, if you've completely out of line. So, if you've completely out of line. So, if you've got those people standing there for 20, got those people standing there for 20, got those people standing there for 20, 30 minutes just constantly like picking 30 minutes just constantly like picking 30 minutes just constantly like picking at you, picking at you, picking at you. at you, picking at you, picking at you. at you, picking at you, picking at you. If you are a certain type of person, If you are a certain type of person, If you are a certain type of person, you're ultimately going to take the you're ultimately going to take the you're ultimately going to take the bait. And I think that we're going to bait. And I think that we're going to bait. And I think that we're going to see plenty of that. Uh, but this guy, in see plenty of that. Uh, but this guy, in see plenty of that. Uh, but this guy, in my opinion, comes across horribly. Uh, my opinion, comes across horribly. Uh, my opinion, comes across horribly. Uh, you have to let the video play out to you have to let the video play out to you have to let the video play out to hear the stupid conversation they start hear the stupid conversation they start hear the stupid conversation they start getting into about pay. getting into about pay. getting into about pay. >> Be ashamed of yourself, man. >> Be ashamed of yourself, man. >> Be ashamed of yourself, man. >> He is. >> He is. >> He is. >> I love my job. Thank you. >> I love my job. Thank you. >> I love my job. Thank you. >> You love your job. >> You love your job. >> You love your job. >> I can't believe I get paid for this. >> I can't believe I get paid for this. >> I can't believe I get paid for this. >> Really? >> Really? >> Really? >> Really? >> Really? >> Really? >> I do this for free. >> I do this for free. >> I do this for free. >> Really? I get 200k. I'm a physician >> Really? I get 200k. I'm a physician >> Really? I get 200k. I'm a physician assistant. assistant. assistant. >> I'm How long did you go to school for >> I'm How long did you go to school for >> I'm How long did you go to school for that? that? that? >> For 7 years. >> For 7 years. >> For 7 years. >> I went to high school. I made 200k. >> I went to high school. I made 200k. >> I went to high school. I made 200k. >> People regard me as someone valuable in >> People regard me as someone valuable in >> People regard me as someone valuable in society. What about you? Does yours? No. >> That trillion dollar influx from the >> That trillion dollar influx from the BBB. Thanks, Trump. paying ICE officers BBB. Thanks, Trump. paying ICE officers BBB. Thanks, Trump. paying ICE officers 200,000 uh forgiven student loan 200,000 uh forgiven student loan 200,000 uh forgiven student loan forgiveness and I think they did the 50k forgiveness and I think they did the 50k forgiveness and I think they did the 50k signing bonus. I don't know if that signing bonus. I don't know if that signing bonus. I don't know if that comes out of the 200,000 but comes out of the 200,000 but comes out of the 200,000 but >> um >> um >> um >> I mean listen can we take what he says >> I mean listen can we take what he says >> I mean listen can we take what he says at face value? Probably not. But here's at face value? Probably not. But here's at face value? Probably not. But here's what I hate about this. So one, we're what I hate about this. So one, we're what I hate about this. So one, we're going to see more and more of this. It's going to see more and more of this. It's going to see more and more of this. It's going to be juxtaposed with acts of going to be juxtaposed with acts of going to be juxtaposed with acts of violence. Uh everybody, each side is violence. Uh everybody, each side is violence. Uh everybody, each side is going to have what they need to show the going to have what they need to show the going to have what they need to show the other side as the villain. We've got other side as the villain. We've got other side as the villain. We've got video of people ramming the cars of ICE video of people ramming the cars of ICE video of people ramming the cars of ICE agents, which is clearly using your car agents, which is clearly using your car agents, which is clearly using your car as deadly force. So, it's like you're as deadly force. So, it's like you're as deadly force. So, it's like you're you're going to have both sides armed to you're going to have both sides armed to you're going to have both sides armed to the teeth with a bunch of propaganda the teeth with a bunch of propaganda the teeth with a bunch of propaganda and that is going to continue to stoke and that is going to continue to stoke and that is going to continue to stoke the fire of the already insanely growing the fire of the already insanely growing the fire of the already insanely growing resentments on the left and the right. resentments on the left and the right. resentments on the left and the right. You've got there was a post from I You've got there was a post from I You've got there was a post from I assume he's a Chinese national uh assume he's a Chinese national uh assume he's a Chinese national uh telling Americans, don't worry, the telling Americans, don't worry, the telling Americans, don't worry, the revolution is coming and you should take revolution is coming and you should take revolution is coming and you should take the um take note of anybody that has an the um take note of anybody that has an the um take note of anybody that has an American flag in front of their house American flag in front of their house American flag in front of their house because while it's too early for the because while it's too early for the because while it's too early for the revolution now, uh when the revolution revolution now, uh when the revolution revolution now, uh when the revolution does happen, you want to know who had an does happen, you want to know who had an does happen, you want to know who had an American flag because they're your enemy American flag because they're your enemy American flag because they're your enemy and you want to eat them first. and you want to eat them first. and you want to eat them first. Literally, and I quote, "Eat them Literally, and I quote, "Eat them Literally, and I quote, "Eat them first." first." first." So, it's like watching um So, it's like watching um So, it's like watching um this moment in history, social media, this moment in history, social media, this moment in history, social media, the ubiquitous presence of cameras, and the ubiquitous presence of cameras, and the ubiquitous presence of cameras, and the real problem. We're in a populist the real problem. We're in a populist the real problem. We're in a populist moment, seeing all of this stuff come moment, seeing all of this stuff come moment, seeing all of this stuff come together. It's like you're watching it together. It's like you're watching it together. It's like you're watching it happen. You know exactly what's going to happen. You know exactly what's going to happen. You know exactly what's going to happen. You know, this is going to happen. You know, this is going to happen. You know, this is going to continue to escalate. And I don't see a continue to escalate. And I don't see a continue to escalate. And I don't see a way to stop it. way to stop it. way to stop it. >> Um remember it was a Jordan Peterson >> Um remember it was a Jordan Peterson >> Um remember it was a Jordan Peterson quote. used to quote all the time about quote. used to quote all the time about quote. used to quote all the time about like the goolog and like the takeover of like the goolog and like the takeover of like the goolog and like the takeover of the Nazis and you were like it's good the Nazis and you were like it's good the Nazis and you were like it's good men had to be quiet or something like men had to be quiet or something like men had to be quiet or something like that. that. that. >> Yeah. I don't think it's a Jordan >> Yeah. I don't think it's a Jordan >> Yeah. I don't think it's a Jordan Peterson quote but it's all it takes for Peterson quote but it's all it takes for Peterson quote but it's all it takes for evil to reign is for good men to do evil to reign is for good men to do evil to reign is for good men to do nothing. nothing. nothing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So this Okay. Now you're getting your >> So this Okay. Now you're getting your >> So this Okay. Now you're getting your finger on exactly how civil wars end up finger on exactly how civil wars end up finger on exactly how civil wars end up breaking out, which is both sides breaking out, which is both sides breaking out, which is both sides believe that they're right. believe that they're right. believe that they're right. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> To the point that they're willing to >> To the point that they're willing to >> To the point that they're willing to kill and die for their side. So that's kill and die for their side. So that's kill and die for their side. So that's another thing that I see in this where another thing that I see in this where another thing that I see in this where the woman is like, you know, people see the woman is like, you know, people see the woman is like, you know, people see me as an upstanding member of society. me as an upstanding member of society. me as an upstanding member of society. What about you? And it's like she What about you? And it's like she What about you? And it's like she doesn't even realize that there's a very doesn't even realize that there's a very doesn't even realize that there's a very substantive portion of America that are substantive portion of America that are substantive portion of America that are like, this is precisely what I want. I like, this is precisely what I want. I like, this is precisely what I want. I want more of this. I want angrier, more want more of this. I want angrier, more want more of this. I want angrier, more brutal ICE agents. Get these, they might brutal ICE agents. Get these, they might brutal ICE agents. Get these, they might not even think through what these people not even think through what these people not even think through what these people are, but get these people out of my are, but get these people out of my are, but get these people out of my country. So, you're going to um blind country. So, you're going to um blind country. So, you're going to um blind yourself if you think that your way is yourself if you think that your way is yourself if you think that your way is the quote unquote right way and that the quote unquote right way and that the quote unquote right way and that other people, well-meaning, loving other people, well-meaning, loving other people, well-meaning, loving people could never see the flip side of people could never see the flip side of people could never see the flip side of the coin. But the reality is they do. the coin. But the reality is they do. the coin. But the reality is they do. And so, you've got people on the other And so, you've got people on the other And so, you've got people on the other side of this this. So when I was side of this this. So when I was side of this this. So when I was watching Renee Good, the thing I kept watching Renee Good, the thing I kept watching Renee Good, the thing I kept thinking was, okay, we're we are seeing thinking was, okay, we're we are seeing thinking was, okay, we're we are seeing that some people are like Kyle that some people are like Kyle that some people are like Kyle Writtenhouse before them, they are Writtenhouse before them, they are Writtenhouse before them, they are prepared to step over the line of the prepared to step over the line of the prepared to step over the line of the Second Amendment and say that I believe Second Amendment and say that I believe Second Amendment and say that I believe that my government has become tyrannical that my government has become tyrannical that my government has become tyrannical and I'm going to resist up to and and I'm going to resist up to and and I'm going to resist up to and including violently. including violently. including violently. >> And the Constitution gives you that >> And the Constitution gives you that >> And the Constitution gives you that right, but at the same time, you are now right, but at the same time, you are now right, but at the same time, you are now putting yourself in a deadly situation. putting yourself in a deadly situation. putting yourself in a deadly situation. So, I feel like people are not being So, I feel like people are not being So, I feel like people are not being realistic about the level of danger that realistic about the level of danger that realistic about the level of danger that they're putting themselves in. I don't they're putting themselves in. I don't they're putting themselves in. I don't think that Renee Good thought, "Oh, I'm think that Renee Good thought, "Oh, I'm think that Renee Good thought, "Oh, I'm making a stand with my life." This is making a stand with my life." This is making a stand with my life." This is why seeing her dance in her car was very why seeing her dance in her car was very why seeing her dance in her car was very much like, "Oh, wow. She is in a totally much like, "Oh, wow. She is in a totally much like, "Oh, wow. She is in a totally different place different place different place >> emotionally. She's having fun and she's >> emotionally. She's having fun and she's >> emotionally. She's having fun and she's not realizing." When you resist federal not realizing." When you resist federal not realizing." When you resist federal law enforcement, you are making a law enforcement, you are making a law enforcement, you are making a certainly a second amendment adjacent certainly a second amendment adjacent certainly a second amendment adjacent stance that my government is tyrannical stance that my government is tyrannical stance that my government is tyrannical and somebody needs to push back. Now and somebody needs to push back. Now and somebody needs to push back. Now again, I want to be very clear on my again, I want to be very clear on my again, I want to be very clear on my thoughts. She should not have been shot. thoughts. She should not have been shot. thoughts. She should not have been shot. Just nice and simple. But nonetheless, Just nice and simple. But nonetheless, Just nice and simple. But nonetheless, you're putting yourself in this you're putting yourself in this you're putting yourself in this hyperdangerous situation that is about hyperdangerous situation that is about hyperdangerous situation that is about saying you, dear government, have become saying you, dear government, have become saying you, dear government, have become tyrannical, and now it's a question of tyrannical, and now it's a question of tyrannical, and now it's a question of how far are people willing to go. If how far are people willing to go. If how far are people willing to go. If you're protesting under normal you're protesting under normal you're protesting under normal circumstances, you know that there's a circumstances, you know that there's a circumstances, you know that there's a way to protest where I can't be arrested way to protest where I can't be arrested way to protest where I can't be arrested because I've not broken any laws. because I've not broken any laws. because I've not broken any laws. There's a way to protest where you break There's a way to protest where you break There's a way to protest where you break laws, but you don't resist arrest and laws, but you don't resist arrest and laws, but you don't resist arrest and therefore shouldn't be escalating therefore shouldn't be escalating therefore shouldn't be escalating anything if they come and arrest you. anything if they come and arrest you. anything if they come and arrest you. And you have crossed a line. That's the And you have crossed a line. That's the And you have crossed a line. That's the whole point is to make that bold whole point is to make that bold whole point is to make that bold statement. You're going to get arrested. statement. You're going to get arrested. statement. You're going to get arrested. You're going to get your day in court. You're going to get your day in court. You're going to get your day in court. and you can make your case there where and you can make your case there where and you can make your case there where it makes all the rational sense in the it makes all the rational sense in the it makes all the rational sense in the world to say exactly what you think is world to say exactly what you think is world to say exactly what you think is going wrong, why it's going wrong, and going wrong, why it's going wrong, and going wrong, why it's going wrong, and why you shouldn't be um why you never why you shouldn't be um why you never why you shouldn't be um why you never should have been arrested in the first should have been arrested in the first should have been arrested in the first place or I've been arrested, but I place or I've been arrested, but I place or I've been arrested, but I certainly shouldn't be um convicted of certainly shouldn't be um convicted of certainly shouldn't be um convicted of anything or anything more than a anything or anything more than a anything or anything more than a misdemeanor. Great. misdemeanor. Great. misdemeanor. Great. >> But that's not what people are doing. >> But that's not what people are doing. >> But that's not what people are doing. People are making the on the street People are making the on the street People are making the on the street level the I want my day in court right level the I want my day in court right level the I want my day in court right here, right now. And so I'm going to here, right now. And so I'm going to here, right now. And so I'm going to resist. I'm going to say that your resist. I'm going to say that your resist. I'm going to say that your authority is uh unjust, invalid, you authority is uh unjust, invalid, you authority is uh unjust, invalid, you know, whatever. And that becomes know, whatever. And that becomes know, whatever. And that becomes violent. It becomes so dangerous so violent. It becomes so dangerous so violent. It becomes so dangerous so fast. And so that's where I'm like, fast. And so that's where I'm like, fast. And so that's where I'm like, okay, listen, if we're here and that's okay, listen, if we're here and that's okay, listen, if we're here and that's what you guys think and that's the what you guys think and that's the what you guys think and that's the statement you're willing to make, so be statement you're willing to make, so be statement you're willing to make, so be it. I again, constitutionally, we have it. I again, constitutionally, we have it. I again, constitutionally, we have the right to have weapons specifically the right to have weapons specifically the right to have weapons specifically because our constitution was designed to because our constitution was designed to because our constitution was designed to say our government is likely to tend say our government is likely to tend say our government is likely to tend towards tyranny. Mhm. towards tyranny. Mhm. towards tyranny. Mhm. >> Uh and if people are drawing the line >> Uh and if people are drawing the line >> Uh and if people are drawing the line now, so be it. But that it is going to now, so be it. But that it is going to now, so be it. But that it is going to cost human life. So people need to be cost human life. So people need to be cost human life. So people need to be very clear-headed about whether they very clear-headed about whether they very clear-headed about whether they think we've reached that point or not. think we've reached that point or not. think we've reached that point or not. >> Um and then a new report just released >> Um and then a new report just released >> Um and then a new report just released that a whistleblower has leaked the that a whistleblower has leaked the that a whistleblower has leaked the largest ever uh names and addresses of largest ever uh names and addresses of largest ever uh names and addresses of over 4,500 ICE and Border Patrol over 4,500 ICE and Border Patrol over 4,500 ICE and Border Patrol employees on Tuesday. Um this is employees on Tuesday. Um this is employees on Tuesday. Um this is potentially one of the largest like data potentially one of the largest like data potentially one of the largest like data breaches I think in the department's breaches I think in the department's breaches I think in the department's history. So this can only be escalate history. So this can only be escalate history. So this can only be escalate tensions even more because what if those tensions even more because what if those tensions even more because what if those protesters use that information for protesters use that information for protesters use that information for nefarious reasons. Um just your nefarious reasons. Um just your nefarious reasons. Um just your information publicly being out there in information publicly being out there in information publicly being out there in the world is dangerous um in and of the world is dangerous um in and of the world is dangerous um in and of itself. So um curious to see how this itself. So um curious to see how this itself. So um curious to see how this adds to the fire that is currently being adds to the fire that is currently being adds to the fire that is currently being stoked in Minnesota. stoked in Minnesota. stoked in Minnesota. >> Yeah. Well, it's certainly not going to >> Yeah. Well, it's certainly not going to >> Yeah. Well, it's certainly not going to be good as you you have a growing belief be good as you you have a growing belief be good as you you have a growing belief in a percentage of the population that in a percentage of the population that in a percentage of the population that ICE is our version of the SS, that Trump ICE is our version of the SS, that Trump ICE is our version of the SS, that Trump is Hitler, and that they would do the is Hitler, and that they would do the is Hitler, and that they would do the right thing and uh they would stand up right thing and uh they would stand up right thing and uh they would stand up to the Nazis in their day. And listen, to the Nazis in their day. And listen, to the Nazis in their day. And listen, in fairness to them, if that's what they in fairness to them, if that's what they in fairness to them, if that's what they really believe, you really do have a lot really believe, you really do have a lot really believe, you really do have a lot of people that are standing up and of people that are standing up and of people that are standing up and saying, "Hey, I'm not afraid to be saying, "Hey, I'm not afraid to be saying, "Hey, I'm not afraid to be counted. I'm not afraid to get in your counted. I'm not afraid to get in your counted. I'm not afraid to get in your face. I'm not afraid to u you know, put face. I'm not afraid to u you know, put face. I'm not afraid to u you know, put myself at risk." and because I think myself at risk." and because I think myself at risk." and because I think this is the right thing to do, I'm going this is the right thing to do, I'm going this is the right thing to do, I'm going to leak this information. And so it's to leak this information. And so it's to leak this information. And so it's like, is this person a whistleblower like, is this person a whistleblower like, is this person a whistleblower who's like, I can't bear the thought of who's like, I can't bear the thought of who's like, I can't bear the thought of these guys covering their face, being these guys covering their face, being these guys covering their face, being these um supposedly immunity carrying these um supposedly immunity carrying these um supposedly immunity carrying thugs that are going in and um harassing thugs that are going in and um harassing thugs that are going in and um harassing Americans in many cases. And so there's Americans in many cases. And so there's Americans in many cases. And so there's no way I'm going to stand for it. And no way I'm going to stand for it. And no way I'm going to stand for it. And just like I told you, I'm not some paper just like I told you, I'm not some paper just like I told you, I'm not some paper tiger. I'm prepared to actually take tiger. I'm prepared to actually take tiger. I'm prepared to actually take action and rat out these SS action and rat out these SS action and rat out these SS [ __ ] Okay. That we're seeing [ __ ] Okay. That we're seeing [ __ ] Okay. That we're seeing that play out. Again, my beef is I don't that play out. Again, my beef is I don't that play out. Again, my beef is I don't think we're anywhere near that. And so think we're anywhere near that. And so think we're anywhere near that. And so you've got people reacting. you've got people reacting. you've got people reacting. >> You don't think we're anywhere near the >> You don't think we're anywhere near the >> You don't think we're anywhere near the SS? SS? SS? >> Definitely not. Okay. >> Definitely not. Okay. >> Definitely not. Okay. >> Definitely not. So >> Definitely not. So >> Definitely not. So going back like if you look at even going back like if you look at even going back like if you look at even Obama was sending in ICE enforcement Obama was sending in ICE enforcement Obama was sending in ICE enforcement agents to go and arrest people. agents to go and arrest people. agents to go and arrest people. >> Uh they were doing it super early in the >> Uh they were doing it super early in the >> Uh they were doing it super early in the dead of night trying to get people. And dead of night trying to get people. And dead of night trying to get people. And so the question becomes, okay, so the question becomes, okay, so the question becomes, okay, why is why was the reaction when Obama why is why was the reaction when Obama why is why was the reaction when Obama did it chill? And the reaction now is did it chill? And the reaction now is did it chill? And the reaction now is horrible. You've got two options before horrible. You've got two options before horrible. You've got two options before you. Option number one is, well, Trump you. Option number one is, well, Trump you. Option number one is, well, Trump is an authoritarian [ __ ] who's is an authoritarian [ __ ] who's is an authoritarian [ __ ] who's sending these guys in, hopped up, and sending these guys in, hopped up, and sending these guys in, hopped up, and they're being so over the top that they're being so over the top that they're being so over the top that people are responding accordingly. The people are responding accordingly. The people are responding accordingly. The other option is that people are so other option is that people are so other option is that people are so Trump derangement syndrome, so convinced Trump derangement syndrome, so convinced Trump derangement syndrome, so convinced that he's the next Hitler that even that he's the next Hitler that even that he's the next Hitler that even though he's doing the same actions, he's though he's doing the same actions, he's though he's doing the same actions, he's being met with a level of resistance being met with a level of resistance being met with a level of resistance that people weren't being met with when that people weren't being met with when that people weren't being met with when Obama did it. So when you look at the Obama did it. So when you look at the Obama did it. So when you look at the CNN coverage of what Obama was doing, CNN coverage of what Obama was doing, CNN coverage of what Obama was doing, it's very positive. When you look at if it's very positive. When you look at if it's very positive. When you look at if Trump says anything, traditional media Trump says anything, traditional media Trump says anything, traditional media is going to go against him. The left is is going to go against him. The left is is going to go against him. The left is going to go against him. And so we were going to go against him. And so we were going to go against him. And so we were just in a very different place when just in a very different place when just in a very different place when Obama was doing it as a country. We Obama was doing it as a country. We Obama was doing it as a country. We weren't as divided. And so now it is weren't as divided. And so now it is weren't as divided. And so now it is almost impossible to tease out is this a almost impossible to tease out is this a almost impossible to tease out is this a reaction to Trump is doing it or is reaction to Trump is doing it or is reaction to Trump is doing it or is Trump doing it in a bad way from the Trump doing it in a bad way from the Trump doing it in a bad way from the jump. I think Trump's instincts are all jump. I think Trump's instincts are all jump. I think Trump's instincts are all wrong. I think they are all populist. wrong. I think they are all populist. wrong. I think they are all populist. They are all designed to be aggressive They are all designed to be aggressive They are all designed to be aggressive towards the other side. They are going towards the other side. They are going towards the other side. They are going to rile people up. And I think that even to rile people up. And I think that even to rile people up. And I think that even if Trump were doing it the right way, if Trump were doing it the right way, if Trump were doing it the right way, the other side's instincts are all wrong the other side's instincts are all wrong the other side's instincts are all wrong and they are all designed to risk uh and they are all designed to risk uh and they are all designed to risk uh resist in a way that is totally resist in a way that is totally resist in a way that is totally disproportionate to what's going on. The disproportionate to what's going on. The disproportionate to what's going on. The whole idea of a sanctuary city to me is whole idea of a sanctuary city to me is whole idea of a sanctuary city to me is patently absurd. The fact that in the patently absurd. The fact that in the patently absurd. The fact that in the middle of some of the biggest middle of some of the biggest middle of some of the biggest revelations of fraud that America has revelations of fraud that America has revelations of fraud that America has ever gone through, we've got people not ever gone through, we've got people not ever gone through, we've got people not talking about like, oh, we got to find talking about like, oh, we got to find talking about like, oh, we got to find that fraud. Clearly, we have an issue that fraud. Clearly, we have an issue that fraud. Clearly, we have an issue here. Oh, by the way, we let some here. Oh, by the way, we let some here. Oh, by the way, we let some unknown number of millions of people unknown number of millions of people unknown number of millions of people come across the border. That is a come across the border. That is a come across the border. That is a non-starter for a country that cannot non-starter for a country that cannot non-starter for a country that cannot pay its own bills to let people come pay its own bills to let people come pay its own bills to let people come into the country and then offer them into the country and then offer them into the country and then offer them benefits. Like this is wild. So all of benefits. Like this is wild. So all of benefits. Like this is wild. So all of that you put together and it's like from that you put together and it's like from that you put together and it's like from where I'm sitting in the middle just where I'm sitting in the middle just where I'm sitting in the middle just trying to go, okay, I know what my goal trying to go, okay, I know what my goal trying to go, okay, I know what my goal is. I'm trying to get to a thriving is. I'm trying to get to a thriving is. I'm trying to get to a thriving middle class. Okay. Uh everything looks middle class. Okay. Uh everything looks middle class. Okay. Uh everything looks like madness. It's all madness. None of like madness. It's all madness. None of like madness. It's all madness. None of it works. None of it makes sense. All of it works. None of it makes sense. All of it works. None of it makes sense. All of it seems intentionally designed to be it seems intentionally designed to be it seems intentionally designed to be problematic. Uh what Trump is doing problematic. Uh what Trump is doing problematic. Uh what Trump is doing seems designed to be problematic. What seems designed to be problematic. What seems designed to be problematic. What the protesters are doing seems designed the protesters are doing seems designed the protesters are doing seems designed to be problematic. Um it it that's why I to be problematic. Um it it that's why I to be problematic. Um it it that's why I have said over and over and over, I do have said over and over and over, I do have said over and over and over, I do not enjoy a populist moment. Everyone is not enjoy a populist moment. Everyone is not enjoy a populist moment. Everyone is in an emotional state. The pie really is in an emotional state. The pie really is in an emotional state. The pie really is shrinking and so everybody is fighting. shrinking and so everybody is fighting. shrinking and so everybody is fighting. Just I I'm going to get my peace and I Just I I'm going to get my peace and I Just I I'm going to get my peace and I don't give a [ __ ] about everybody else. don't give a [ __ ] about everybody else. don't give a [ __ ] about everybody else. it. America first once you take it from it. America first once you take it from it. America first once you take it from an international policy perspective is an international policy perspective is an international policy perspective is that America's going to get what they that America's going to get what they that America's going to get what they want. It does not matter what you want. want. It does not matter what you want. want. It does not matter what you want. Greenland, I don't give a [ __ ] Like, Greenland, I don't give a [ __ ] Like, Greenland, I don't give a [ __ ] Like, we're coming in. We're going to get we're coming in. We're going to get we're coming in. We're going to get control of Greenland. Venezuela don't control of Greenland. Venezuela don't control of Greenland. Venezuela don't care. You guys have something we need. care. You guys have something we need. care. You guys have something we need. We're coming in. We're coming in. We're coming in. >> And so that whole populist vibe and if >> And so that whole populist vibe and if >> And so that whole populist vibe and if people think that it's only on the people think that it's only on the people think that it's only on the right, they're crazy. They're just not right, they're crazy. They're just not right, they're crazy. They're just not understanding that violence play or understanding that violence play or understanding that violence play or Yeah, sure. we'll stick with violence Yeah, sure. we'll stick with violence Yeah, sure. we'll stick with violence that violence plays out differently on that violence plays out differently on that violence plays out differently on the left and on the right. And so when the left and on the right. And so when the left and on the right. And so when you realize both of them are trying to you realize both of them are trying to you realize both of them are trying to co-opt the government, they just do it co-opt the government, they just do it co-opt the government, they just do it in different ways, then it's like, oh in different ways, then it's like, oh in different ways, then it's like, oh man, we the only thing that will back us man, we the only thing that will back us man, we the only thing that will back us off of this is prosperity. I've said it off of this is prosperity. I've said it off of this is prosperity. I've said it a thousand times. Barring that, this a thousand times. Barring that, this a thousand times. Barring that, this just keeps going. Like really think just keeps going. Like really think just keeps going. Like really think about when I first started saying like, about when I first started saying like, about when I first started saying like, guys, this feels civil war to me. guys, this feels civil war to me. guys, this feels civil war to me. Everyone's like, "Oh my god, [ __ ] was Everyone's like, "Oh my god, [ __ ] was Everyone's like, "Oh my god, [ __ ] was just saying all this stuff for the just saying all this stuff for the just saying all this stuff for the clicks. Are we really going to say that clicks. Are we really going to say that clicks. Are we really going to say that now? I'm not saying we're in civil war, now? I'm not saying we're in civil war, now? I'm not saying we're in civil war, but I'm saying godamn like we are now so but I'm saying godamn like we are now so but I'm saying godamn like we are now so much farther down that path. The much farther down that path. The much farther down that path. The tensions between the left and the right tensions between the left and the right tensions between the left and the right have ratched it up so much. There are have ratched it up so much. There are have ratched it up so much. There are >> there's like more drama in the >> there's like more drama in the >> there's like more drama in the government than you can even track. government than you can even track. government than you can even track. >> So there are major stories we just don't >> So there are major stories we just don't >> So there are major stories we just don't even cover because it's like I don't even cover because it's like I don't even cover because it's like I don't have time to even go look at it. There's have time to even go look at it. There's have time to even go look at it. There's so many other fires that I'm dealing so many other fires that I'm dealing so many other fires that I'm dealing with. So with. So with. So >> Trump is like mission accomplished. Yes. >> Trump is like mission accomplished. Yes. >> Trump is like mission accomplished. Yes. >> Well, I don't think it's just So this is >> Well, I don't think it's just So this is >> Well, I don't think it's just So this is where Okay. So give give me your take where Okay. So give give me your take where Okay. So give give me your take because I think you're a wonderful because I think you're a wonderful because I think you're a wonderful counterpoint. What is your like when you counterpoint. What is your like when you counterpoint. What is your like when you look at this? What do you see? look at this? What do you see? look at this? What do you see? >> Uh Trump being Trump. I think politics >> Uh Trump being Trump. I think politics >> Uh Trump being Trump. I think politics fundamentally changed in 2016 2015 in fundamentally changed in 2016 2015 in fundamentally changed in 2016 2015 in the leadup. I think um when Obama was the leadup. I think um when Obama was the leadup. I think um when Obama was president, uh Fox News did uh two president, uh Fox News did uh two president, uh Fox News did uh two segments um in a prime time news channel segments um in a prime time news channel segments um in a prime time news channel about Obama wearing a tan suit uh and about Obama wearing a tan suit uh and about Obama wearing a tan suit uh and that was the entire it's unpresidential that was the entire it's unpresidential that was the entire it's unpresidential for a president to wear tan suits for a president to wear tan suits for a president to wear tan suits supposed to be dark blue and black. I supposed to be dark blue and black. I supposed to be dark blue and black. I think now in the year 2024 uh or 2026 think now in the year 2024 uh or 2026 think now in the year 2024 uh or 2026 [ __ ] um after Trump won the second term [ __ ] um after Trump won the second term [ __ ] um after Trump won the second term I think fundamentally how we approach I think fundamentally how we approach I think fundamentally how we approach politics is different um whether it's a politics is different um whether it's a politics is different um whether it's a hangover of COVID whether it's whatever hangover of COVID whether it's whatever hangover of COVID whether it's whatever is happening but now to compare pre20 is happening but now to compare pre20 is happening but now to compare pre20 life to post 2020 life I feel like life to post 2020 life I feel like life to post 2020 life I feel like that's night and day. You don't even that's night and day. You don't even that's night and day. You don't even think look at vaccines the same. We think look at vaccines the same. We think look at vaccines the same. We don't look at government intervention don't look at government intervention don't look at government intervention the same. We don't look at lockdowns the the same. We don't look at lockdowns the the same. We don't look at lockdowns the same. Like there's a lot of things that same. Like there's a lot of things that same. Like there's a lot of things that we no longer look at the same after that we no longer look at the same after that we no longer look at the same after that time. So with that new inflection point time. So with that new inflection point time. So with that new inflection point and this whole new uh line of and this whole new uh line of and this whole new uh line of questioning, let's go like let's go into questioning, let's go like let's go into questioning, let's go like let's go into it. What Minnesota is right now is it. What Minnesota is right now is it. What Minnesota is right now is exactly what I think Trump wants it to exactly what I think Trump wants it to exactly what I think Trump wants it to be because as crazy the crazier and be because as crazy the crazier and be because as crazy the crazier and crazier it gets, the more he can point crazier it gets, the more he can point crazier it gets, the more he can point to the leadership of Minnesota and to the leadership of Minnesota and to the leadership of Minnesota and they're all Democrats. Like I said in they're all Democrats. Like I said in they're all Democrats. Like I said in the last live, there's still illegal the last live, there's still illegal the last live, there's still illegal aliens in I in Arizona. There's still aliens in I in Arizona. There's still aliens in I in Arizona. There's still illegal aliens in Texas. Minnesota is illegal aliens in Texas. Minnesota is illegal aliens in Texas. Minnesota is not the only place that there's not the only place that there's not the only place that there's illegals, but a YouTuber said there's a illegals, but a YouTuber said there's a illegals, but a YouTuber said there's a bunch of fraud here. It got viral. Trump bunch of fraud here. It got viral. Trump bunch of fraud here. It got viral. Trump likes viral. He went to go do it and likes viral. He went to go do it and likes viral. He went to go do it and then he did it. We have a reality TV then he did it. We have a reality TV then he did it. We have a reality TV show president and you're saying that we show president and you're saying that we show president and you're saying that we never had this much drama in the never had this much drama in the never had this much drama in the government. I don't think those things government. I don't think those things government. I don't think those things are mutually exclusive. I think Trump are mutually exclusive. I think Trump are mutually exclusive. I think Trump knows how to monetize attention. I think knows how to monetize attention. I think knows how to monetize attention. I think Trump knows how to wield attention and I Trump knows how to wield attention and I Trump knows how to wield attention and I think Trump knows how to feed his base. think Trump knows how to feed his base. think Trump knows how to feed his base. So, he does those three things expertly. So, he does those three things expertly. So, he does those three things expertly. Trump is very good at what he does. I'm Trump is very good at what he does. I'm Trump is very good at what he does. I'm not going to be bashful and act like not going to be bashful and act like not going to be bashful and act like he's a stupid person. He's an idiot. No, he's a stupid person. He's an idiot. No, he's a stupid person. He's an idiot. No, absolutely not. He knows what he's doing absolutely not. He knows what he's doing absolutely not. He knows what he's doing and he's concentrated at what he's and he's concentrated at what he's and he's concentrated at what he's doing. But I think that we're spending doing. But I think that we're spending doing. But I think that we're spending more time with the rhetoric of is this more time with the rhetoric of is this more time with the rhetoric of is this woman who got shot in the face wrong for woman who got shot in the face wrong for woman who got shot in the face wrong for trying to drive away or was driving trying to drive away or was driving trying to drive away or was driving toward the ICE agent versus the lady who toward the ICE agent versus the lady who toward the ICE agent versus the lady who was driving to a doctor's appointment was driving to a doctor's appointment was driving to a doctor's appointment and got snatched out and had agents and got snatched out and had agents and got snatched out and had agents surrounding her car. And I'm still just surrounding her car. And I'm still just surrounding her car. And I'm still just confused like where are the illegals? confused like where are the illegals? confused like where are the illegals? Where are the Somali that are stealing Where are the Somali that are stealing Where are the Somali that are stealing all the money? Because I just seen a all the money? Because I just seen a all the money? Because I just seen a white woman and a racially ambiguous white woman and a racially ambiguous white woman and a racially ambiguous woman get pulled out. But I haven't seen woman get pulled out. But I haven't seen woman get pulled out. But I haven't seen a daycare center yet. I haven't seen a a daycare center yet. I haven't seen a a daycare center yet. I haven't seen a healthcare refund. I haven't seen a healthcare refund. I haven't seen a healthcare refund. I haven't seen a lawsuit happen. So, this is the part lawsuit happen. So, this is the part lawsuit happen. So, this is the part where it's like we're saying we care where it's like we're saying we care where it's like we're saying we care about this one thing, but yet we're about this one thing, but yet we're about this one thing, but yet we're doing a lot of theater on the other doing a lot of theater on the other doing a lot of theater on the other side. And that's the part that I feel side. And that's the part that I feel side. And that's the part that I feel like is just Trump saying, "Okay, I can like is just Trump saying, "Okay, I can like is just Trump saying, "Okay, I can make people get more excited. I get more make people get more excited. I get more make people get more excited. I get more make people get more excited." And then make people get more excited." And then make people get more excited." And then after that, when the midterms come after that, when the midterms come after that, when the midterms come around, I can either do martial law, I around, I can either do martial law, I around, I can either do martial law, I can shut Minnesota down to show that you can shut Minnesota down to show that you can shut Minnesota down to show that you guys don't have restraint. And it's guys don't have restraint. And it's guys don't have restraint. And it's another political move I can use so that another political move I can use so that another political move I can use so that way it can help me bolster my base. help way it can help me bolster my base. help way it can help me bolster my base. help me bolster my my team, quote unquote. me bolster my my team, quote unquote. me bolster my my team, quote unquote. >> Okay, so let me see if I've understood >> Okay, so let me see if I've understood >> Okay, so let me see if I've understood your position. Tell me if I miss your position. Tell me if I miss your position. Tell me if I miss anything. anything. anything. >> Uh Trump is a politician who leverages >> Uh Trump is a politician who leverages >> Uh Trump is a politician who leverages chaos to get control. His goal is to uh chaos to get control. His goal is to uh chaos to get control. His goal is to uh whip people up into a frenzy partly whip people up into a frenzy partly whip people up into a frenzy partly because he goes where he knows he can because he goes where he knows he can because he goes where he knows he can get attention, but that's going to be get attention, but that's going to be get attention, but that's going to be the most heightened emotional state. So the most heightened emotional state. So the most heightened emotional state. So wherever the most heightened emotions wherever the most heightened emotions wherever the most heightened emotions are, where the the most attention are, where the the most attention are, where the the most attention already exists, I'm going to go in already exists, I'm going to go in already exists, I'm going to go in there. And then I am going to there. And then I am going to there. And then I am going to intentionally uh incite chaos so that I intentionally uh incite chaos so that I intentionally uh incite chaos so that I can get martial law which will give me a can get martial law which will give me a can get martial law which will give me a better chance of winning at the better chance of winning at the better chance of winning at the midterms. midterms. midterms. >> Martial law better chance of winning at >> Martial law better chance of winning at >> Martial law better chance of winning at the midterms. Martial law so I can get the midterms. Martial law so I can get the midterms. Martial law so I can get more control so I can point to my law more control so I can point to my law more control so I can point to my law and order uh track record to bolster me and order uh track record to bolster me and order uh track record to bolster me up in the midterms. up in the midterms. up in the midterms. >> Okay. So I want the chaos to show this >> Okay. So I want the chaos to show this >> Okay. So I want the chaos to show this is so chaotic. is so chaotic. is so chaotic. >> You need me so that I can clamp down on >> You need me so that I can clamp down on >> You need me so that I can clamp down on this this this >> because if you let the lefts do it, >> because if you let the lefts do it, >> because if you let the lefts do it, they're going to run rampant and it's they're going to run rampant and it's they're going to run rampant and it's going to be just this much. It's going going to be just this much. It's going going to be just this much. It's going to happen over and over again. to happen over and over again. to happen over and over again. >> Okay. And so that all has internal >> Okay. And so that all has internal >> Okay. And so that all has internal logic. I'll say that. So now logic. I'll say that. So now logic. I'll say that. So now when you think about what's happening when you think about what's happening when you think about what's happening now, now, now, >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> the post when you said the world >> the post when you said the world >> the post when you said the world changed, political world, I can't really changed, political world, I can't really changed, political world, I can't really say world, the political world, but say world, the political world, but say world, the political world, but we'll narrow it. Political world changed we'll narrow it. Political world changed we'll narrow it. Political world changed in the leadup to the 2026 election. Um, in the leadup to the 2026 election. Um, in the leadup to the 2026 election. Um, was that because Trump is just this was that because Trump is just this was that because Trump is just this agent of chaos or is he a symptom of agent of chaos or is he a symptom of agent of chaos or is he a symptom of populism populism populism >> in 2016? I don't think populism was the >> in 2016? I don't think populism was the >> in 2016? I don't think populism was the word to use at that time. I think at word to use at that time. I think at word to use at that time. I think at 2020 in 2016, Trump's whole uh the one 2020 in 2016, Trump's whole uh the one 2020 in 2016, Trump's whole uh the one thing he hung his hat on is I'mma drain thing he hung his hat on is I'mma drain thing he hung his hat on is I'mma drain the swamp. Um all these Republicans are the swamp. Um all these Republicans are the swamp. Um all these Republicans are losers. He was talking about people. He losers. He was talking about people. He losers. He was talking about people. He was calling names. That's where he first was calling names. That's where he first was calling names. That's where he first dropped the nicknames. We never had dropped the nicknames. We never had dropped the nicknames. We never had nicknames in politics till Trump did it. nicknames in politics till Trump did it. nicknames in politics till Trump did it. Um so that's why I think he Um so that's why I think he Um so that's why I think he fundamentally changed how we talk about fundamentally changed how we talk about fundamentally changed how we talk about politicians. The Marjorie Taylor Greens politicians. The Marjorie Taylor Greens politicians. The Marjorie Taylor Greens and even how Elon uh Omar is talking and even how Elon uh Omar is talking and even how Elon uh Omar is talking spicy now. all these politicians who are spicy now. all these politicians who are spicy now. all these politicians who are now I'm gonna go on this podcast and now I'm gonna go on this podcast and now I'm gonna go on this podcast and talk about other people and I'm gonna talk about other people and I'm gonna talk about other people and I'm gonna call people names and I'm gonna say call people names and I'm gonna say call people names and I'm gonna say they're stupid and the other left is they're stupid and the other left is they're stupid and the other left is terrorists. That never was a thing. It terrorists. That never was a thing. It terrorists. That never was a thing. It was always a quorum. Obama and Bush used was always a quorum. Obama and Bush used was always a quorum. Obama and Bush used to shake hands and they were at next to to shake hands and they were at next to to shake hands and they were at next to each other in the lines. They there was each other in the lines. They there was each other in the lines. They there was cord there was all this cordialness and cord there was all this cordialness and cord there was all this cordialness and then after um in 2016 it just kind of then after um in 2016 it just kind of then after um in 2016 it just kind of jumped. Um but I mean hey that's just jumped. Um but I mean hey that's just jumped. Um but I mean hey that's just I'm just one guy sitting in the chair. I'm just one guy sitting in the chair. I'm just one guy sitting in the chair. It's not an ideology. I'm not a leftist. It's not an ideology. I'm not a leftist. It's not an ideology. I'm not a leftist. I'm not protesting. I'm not outside of I'm not protesting. I'm not outside of I'm not protesting. I'm not outside of Minnesota getting shot in the face. So Minnesota getting shot in the face. So Minnesota getting shot in the face. So you know maybe I just don't see the you know maybe I just don't see the you know maybe I just don't see the clear the clear the clarity of it all. clear the clear the clarity of it all. clear the clear the clarity of it all. Yeah. Okay. So, I don't know. I didn't Yeah. Okay. So, I don't know. I didn't Yeah. Okay. So, I don't know. I didn't understand the final caveat at the end. understand the final caveat at the end. understand the final caveat at the end. Is that because you're Is that because you're Is that because you're >> cuz I feel like people want me to speak >> cuz I feel like people want me to speak >> cuz I feel like people want me to speak for a certain existence or a certain uh for a certain existence or a certain uh for a certain existence or a certain uh stereotype or um people in the chat love stereotype or um people in the chat love stereotype or um people in the chat love to say that, oh, that was a leftist, to say that, oh, that was a leftist, to say that, oh, that was a leftist, Drew. Like, you're the the leftist is is Drew. Like, you're the the leftist is is Drew. Like, you're the the leftist is is brainwashed them. Like, nah. I'm parents brainwashed them. Like, nah. I'm parents brainwashed them. Like, nah. I'm parents of an immigrant. We're way more of an immigrant. We're way more of an immigrant. We're way more conservative than people who live in conservative than people who live in conservative than people who live in California. Uh so, I don't typically California. Uh so, I don't typically California. Uh so, I don't typically lean in those like arching directions. I lean in those like arching directions. I lean in those like arching directions. I live in Arizona for 6 years and they live in Arizona for 6 years and they live in Arizona for 6 years and they don't get any redder than that. Um, don't get any redder than that. Um, don't get any redder than that. Um, >> yeah, but that none of that matters >> yeah, but that none of that matters >> yeah, but that none of that matters about what's in your mind. So, one, I about what's in your mind. So, one, I about what's in your mind. So, one, I feel your pain. I certainly understand feel your pain. I certainly understand feel your pain. I certainly understand being heckled by the community. being heckled by the community. being heckled by the community. >> They love it. >> They love it. >> They love it. >> Uh, however, if I can because it's >> Uh, however, if I can because it's >> Uh, however, if I can because it's certainly instructive for thinking certainly instructive for thinking certainly instructive for thinking through problems to have somebody who's through problems to have somebody who's through problems to have somebody who's smart and well-intentioned to smart and well-intentioned to smart and well-intentioned to >> in some way disagree with you. One of >> in some way disagree with you. One of >> in some way disagree with you. One of the things I it it is always hard for me the things I it it is always hard for me the things I it it is always hard for me to map where you draw the line in terms to map where you draw the line in terms to map where you draw the line in terms of um ultimately you must have in your of um ultimately you must have in your of um ultimately you must have in your head some belief that at some point you head some belief that at some point you head some belief that at some point you could say something where I'd be like could say something where I'd be like could say something where I'd be like get this [ __ ] guy out of my company. get this [ __ ] guy out of my company. get this [ __ ] guy out of my company. So I know there's pro no So I know there's pro no So I know there's pro no >> I feel like I said a lot of >> I feel like I said a lot of >> I feel like I said a lot of >> oh my god I love that true >> oh my god I love that true >> oh my god I love that true >> no way I want you to say what you >> no way I want you to say what you >> no way I want you to say what you believe to be true. So that's fantastic. believe to be true. So that's fantastic. believe to be true. So that's fantastic. Okay. So, if you're not hedging based on Okay. So, if you're not hedging based on Okay. So, if you're not hedging based on that, then what I have is the ultimate that, then what I have is the ultimate that, then what I have is the ultimate thing any human can hope for, which is a thing any human can hope for, which is a thing any human can hope for, which is a smart, well-intentioned person who smart, well-intentioned person who smart, well-intentioned person who doesn't always see eye to eye, but you doesn't always see eye to eye, but you doesn't always see eye to eye, but you share enough values that you can share enough values that you can share enough values that you can actually communicate. That's how I see actually communicate. That's how I see actually communicate. That's how I see you and I. You and I. Now, if people see you and I. You and I. Now, if people see you and I. You and I. Now, if people see me as right, they're going to be me as right, they're going to be me as right, they're going to be eternally confused. If they see you as eternally confused. If they see you as eternally confused. If they see you as left, they're going to be eternally left, they're going to be eternally left, they're going to be eternally confused. Um, at the same time, I do confused. Um, at the same time, I do confused. Um, at the same time, I do think our personalities, our frames of think our personalities, our frames of think our personalities, our frames of reference are I lean slightly right and reference are I lean slightly right and reference are I lean slightly right and you lean slightly left just by way of you lean slightly left just by way of you lean slightly left just by way of people being able to map our people being able to map our people being able to map our constitutions. So that fine, neither of constitutions. So that fine, neither of constitutions. So that fine, neither of us like tribal thinking or being on a us like tribal thinking or being on a us like tribal thinking or being on a team. Okay, with all of that, you and I team. Okay, with all of that, you and I team. Okay, with all of that, you and I have very different base assumptions in have very different base assumptions in have very different base assumptions in terms of how we look at the world. terms of how we look at the world. terms of how we look at the world. that is certainly manifesting here, that is certainly manifesting here, that is certainly manifesting here, which is I believe Trump is Trump is which is I believe Trump is Trump is which is I believe Trump is Trump is like uh he's been summoned in a demon like uh he's been summoned in a demon like uh he's been summoned in a demon summoning circle. The demon summoning summoning circle. The demon summoning summoning circle. The demon summoning circles only exists in moments of circles only exists in moments of circles only exists in moments of populism. populism. populism. Trump as a archetype of a human being Trump as a archetype of a human being Trump as a archetype of a human being would never become an electable would never become an electable would never become an electable politician in any environment that politician in any environment that politician in any environment that wasn't already populist. wasn't already populist. wasn't already populist. >> And you think that's relevant for his >> And you think that's relevant for his >> And you think that's relevant for his first term as well? first term as well? first term as well? >> I Yes. And I think failing to understand >> I Yes. And I think failing to understand >> I Yes. And I think failing to understand that the world changed for a very that the world changed for a very that the world changed for a very specific reason, which is we created a specific reason, which is we created a specific reason, which is we created a central bank in 1913 that allowed very central bank in 1913 that allowed very central bank in 1913 that allowed very smart, very well-connected people to smart, very well-connected people to smart, very well-connected people to control money and extract eternally from control money and extract eternally from control money and extract eternally from the holders of the largest amount of the holders of the largest amount of the holders of the largest amount of wealth, which is not billionaires, it's wealth, which is not billionaires, it's wealth, which is not billionaires, it's the middle and working class. So they the middle and working class. So they the middle and working class. So they hold much more depending on how far up hold much more depending on how far up hold much more depending on how far up the ladder you go. Like if you go all the ladder you go. Like if you go all the ladder you go. Like if you go all the way to um the top 90%, the way to um the top 90%, the way to um the top 90%, you now control you now control you now control so much more wealth than billionaires. so much more wealth than billionaires. so much more wealth than billionaires. It's ridiculous. But anyway, so they It's ridiculous. But anyway, so they It's ridiculous. But anyway, so they understand that they want to extract understand that they want to extract understand that they want to extract from people. And they also understand from people. And they also understand from people. And they also understand the way to protect themselves to own the way to protect themselves to own the way to protect themselves to own assets. So they're like, I have a method assets. So they're like, I have a method assets. So they're like, I have a method to extract from everybody else that to extract from everybody else that to extract from everybody else that hurts me just as much as it hurts hurts me just as much as it hurts hurts me just as much as it hurts everybody else, but I know how to everybody else, but I know how to everybody else, but I know how to protect myself from it. So it's like, protect myself from it. So it's like, protect myself from it. So it's like, imagine somebody that can control the imagine somebody that can control the imagine somebody that can control the weather and they can make it rain. Uh, weather and they can make it rain. Uh, weather and they can make it rain. Uh, but they're the only ones that but they're the only ones that but they're the only ones that understand rubber. And so they're the understand rubber. And so they're the understand rubber. And so they're the only ones wearing boots, raincoats, and only ones wearing boots, raincoats, and only ones wearing boots, raincoats, and holding an umbrella. And so they're holding an umbrella. And so they're holding an umbrella. And so they're like, "Well, it's raining on me just like, "Well, it's raining on me just like, "Well, it's raining on me just like it's raining on you." But I know like it's raining on you." But I know like it's raining on you." But I know how to protect myself. The way to how to protect myself. The way to how to protect myself. The way to protect yourself is assets. So cool. protect yourself is assets. So cool. protect yourself is assets. So cool. You've got these just round it to You've got these just round it to You've got these just round it to bankers, political elite, Brussels, like bankers, political elite, Brussels, like bankers, political elite, Brussels, like however you want to think about it, but however you want to think about it, but however you want to think about it, but those people understand how to extract those people understand how to extract those people understand how to extract from everybody else. Everybody else, from everybody else. Everybody else, from everybody else. Everybody else, they don't even know what's happening. they don't even know what's happening. they don't even know what's happening. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. >> History shows that as they're extracted >> History shows that as they're extracted >> History shows that as they're extracted from over and over, they start feeling from over and over, they start feeling from over and over, they start feeling like they're being taken advantage of. like they're being taken advantage of. like they're being taken advantage of. And when they feel that, they feel it And when they feel that, they feel it And when they feel that, they feel it because the pie really is shrinking. So because the pie really is shrinking. So because the pie really is shrinking. So when the pie is shrinking, they don't when the pie is shrinking, they don't when the pie is shrinking, they don't know what's happening, but they know know what's happening, but they know know what's happening, but they know something bad is happening. And they something bad is happening. And they something bad is happening. And they slip into what we call populism. The slip into what we call populism. The slip into what we call populism. The reason I say it's obviously populism reason I say it's obviously populism reason I say it's obviously populism back in 2015 is this is not the first back in 2015 is this is not the first back in 2015 is this is not the first time. This is like it's a thing that time. This is like it's a thing that time. This is like it's a thing that happens in history over and over and happens in history over and over and happens in history over and over and over, but it's not a like, oh, we don't over, but it's not a like, oh, we don't over, but it's not a like, oh, we don't know what causes it. It's caused by know what causes it. It's caused by know what causes it. It's caused by exactly what I just walked you through. exactly what I just walked you through. exactly what I just walked you through. Always and forever all throughout time. Always and forever all throughout time. Always and forever all throughout time. It's always debt and money printing. Not It's always debt and money printing. Not It's always debt and money printing. Not sometimes, not mostly. It's always debt sometimes, not mostly. It's always debt sometimes, not mostly. It's always debt and money printing. So that creates and money printing. So that creates and money printing. So that creates these populous moments because they can these populous moments because they can these populous moments because they can no longer feed their family, keep a roof no longer feed their family, keep a roof no longer feed their family, keep a roof over their head, feel like their kids' over their head, feel like their kids' over their head, feel like their kids' lives might be better than theirs. And lives might be better than theirs. And lives might be better than theirs. And if you will grant me the um the metaphor if you will grant me the um the metaphor if you will grant me the um the metaphor that humans are like AI in that we are that humans are like AI in that we are that humans are like AI in that we are programmed. We process data in a certain programmed. We process data in a certain programmed. We process data in a certain way. And so that feeling of ooh way. And so that feeling of ooh way. And so that feeling of ooh something is bad makes people I'm being something is bad makes people I'm being something is bad makes people I'm being extracted. I'm being stolen from just to extracted. I'm being stolen from just to extracted. I'm being stolen from just to keep it really simple. Yeah. The feeling keep it really simple. Yeah. The feeling keep it really simple. Yeah. The feeling of I'm being stolen from makes people of I'm being stolen from makes people of I'm being stolen from makes people feel very anxious. Anxiety is a hugely feel very anxious. Anxiety is a hugely feel very anxious. Anxiety is a hugely negative emotion that people will not negative emotion that people will not negative emotion that people will not allow themselves to sit in. So they turn allow themselves to sit in. So they turn allow themselves to sit in. So they turn it into anger. And in the moment of it into anger. And in the moment of it into anger. And in the moment of anger, they hold hands around the demon anger, they hold hands around the demon anger, they hold hands around the demon summoning circle and they pull forth a summoning circle and they pull forth a summoning circle and they pull forth a politician that will slap the other side politician that will slap the other side politician that will slap the other side around. That's specifically what they around. That's specifically what they around. That's specifically what they want them to do. And secure the money want them to do. And secure the money want them to do. And secure the money for them. And so it this is a historical for them. And so it this is a historical for them. And so it this is a historical pattern that plays out over and over and pattern that plays out over and over and pattern that plays out over and over and over. So when people look at Trump and over. So when people look at Trump and over. So when people look at Trump and go, "Oh, this [ __ ] [ __ ] uh, he's go, "Oh, this [ __ ] [ __ ] uh, he's go, "Oh, this [ __ ] [ __ ] uh, he's doing all of this." I'm like, "You're doing all of this." I'm like, "You're doing all of this." I'm like, "You're never going to solve the problem because never going to solve the problem because never going to solve the problem because you're going to get mad at Trump. You're you're going to get mad at Trump. You're you're going to get mad at Trump. You're going to fight against Trump." When the going to fight against Trump." When the going to fight against Trump." When the reality is, if you don't solve the reality is, if you don't solve the reality is, if you don't solve the economic problem, we'll stay in a economic problem, we'll stay in a economic problem, we'll stay in a populist moment forever. And in fact, populist moment forever. And in fact, populist moment forever. And in fact, history is very clear. What ends up history is very clear. What ends up history is very clear. What ends up happening is you fall into civil war or happening is you fall into civil war or happening is you fall into civil war or revolution revolution revolution >> and you kill a whole bunch of people in >> and you kill a whole bunch of people in >> and you kill a whole bunch of people in your own country and then there's so your own country and then there's so your own country and then there's so much bloodshed that everybody goes I'm much bloodshed that everybody goes I'm much bloodshed that everybody goes I'm too tired to keep fighting and everybody too tired to keep fighting and everybody too tired to keep fighting and everybody just accepts like okay fine whatever just accepts like okay fine whatever just accepts like okay fine whatever there's a new world order and then you there's a new world order and then you there's a new world order and then you move forward and you limp along for 30 move forward and you limp along for 30 move forward and you limp along for 30 50 sometimes 100 years and then you 50 sometimes 100 years and then you 50 sometimes 100 years and then you finally get back on track to give people finally get back on track to give people finally get back on track to give people an idea it took China 200 years to get an idea it took China 200 years to get an idea it took China 200 years to get back it's taken Argentina a hundred back it's taken Argentina a hundred back it's taken Argentina a hundred years to get back. So these are not like years to get back. So these are not like years to get back. So these are not like you don't pull out of populism easily. you don't pull out of populism easily. you don't pull out of populism easily. So I'm like, can we please just not go So I'm like, can we please just not go So I'm like, can we please just not go all the way to revolution because all the way to revolution because all the way to revolution because >> it isn't an ironclad law. You don't have >> it isn't an ironclad law. You don't have >> it isn't an ironclad law. You don't have to go all the way there. You can back to go all the way there. You can back to go all the way there. You can back out of this, but it's always through out of this, but it's always through out of this, but it's always through growth. And so if we can't solve the growth. And so if we can't solve the growth. And so if we can't solve the economic problem, we will go to economic problem, we will go to economic problem, we will go to revolution. We will kill a just absolute revolution. We will kill a just absolute revolution. We will kill a just absolute [ __ ] ton of people. and we will [ __ ] ton of people. and we will [ __ ] ton of people. and we will somewhere between 30 and 100 years, somewhere between 30 and 100 years, somewhere between 30 and 100 years, let's say, will be a backwaters nation. let's say, will be a backwaters nation. let's say, will be a backwaters nation. >> Um, doubling down on the economic >> Um, doubling down on the economic >> Um, doubling down on the economic problem, how would you grade Trump and problem, how would you grade Trump and problem, how would you grade Trump and his ability to solve those economic his ability to solve those economic his ability to solve those economic problems? Um, is he putting his problems? Um, is he putting his problems? Um, is he putting his resources in the right place? Is he and resources in the right place? Is he and resources in the right place? Is he and it doesn't have to be like line by line it doesn't have to be like line by line it doesn't have to be like line by line of the big beautiful bill? But just cuz of the big beautiful bill? But just cuz of the big beautiful bill? But just cuz what I heard from you is if Gen Z could what I heard from you is if Gen Z could what I heard from you is if Gen Z could afford houses, I say he just wouldn't be afford houses, I say he just wouldn't be afford houses, I say he just wouldn't be terrorizing Minnesota. terrorizing Minnesota. terrorizing Minnesota. >> That is 100% accurate. So >> That is 100% accurate. So >> That is 100% accurate. So to me that sounds like I should invest to me that sounds like I should invest to me that sounds like I should invest in people affording houses like those in people affording houses like those in people affording houses like those those would be like where the those would be like where the those would be like where the investments flow through. Um but overall investments flow through. Um but overall investments flow through. Um but overall it seems like Trump is a lot more it seems like Trump is a lot more it seems like Trump is a lot more worried about Venezuela, Greenland um worried about Venezuela, Greenland um worried about Venezuela, Greenland um immigration which immigration does have immigration which immigration does have immigration which immigration does have a second third order consequences of a second third order consequences of a second third order consequences of affordability but that's like saying if affordability but that's like saying if affordability but that's like saying if I don't eat I can lose weight. It's like I don't eat I can lose weight. It's like I don't eat I can lose weight. It's like yes that's one way but you can also work yes that's one way but you can also work yes that's one way but you can also work out you can stop eating fried chicken. out you can stop eating fried chicken. out you can stop eating fried chicken. like you know there's other ways that like you know there's other ways that like you know there's other ways that might be a little bit higher and more might be a little bit higher and more might be a little bit higher and more >> oh they would be way better they would >> oh they would be way better they would >> oh they would be way better they would be way better so to use your analogy um be way better so to use your analogy um be way better so to use your analogy um we have elected we're a morbidly obese we have elected we're a morbidly obese we have elected we're a morbidly obese country and we've elected an anorexic to country and we've elected an anorexic to country and we've elected an anorexic to get us back in shape and he's doing the get us back in shape and he's doing the get us back in shape and he's doing the most extreme most unhealthy [ __ ] so I'm most extreme most unhealthy [ __ ] so I'm most extreme most unhealthy [ __ ] so I'm going to speedun but by the way it going to speedun but by the way it going to speedun but by the way it actually has a chance of getting you to actually has a chance of getting you to actually has a chance of getting you to lose weight lose weight lose weight >> that's exactly how I look at Trump he's >> that's exactly how I look at Trump he's >> that's exactly how I look at Trump he's what he's doing is so high risk it puts what he's doing is so high risk it puts what he's doing is so high risk it puts us all it puts the entire world order at us all it puts the entire world order at us all it puts the entire world order at risk. So I'm not a burn it all down and risk. So I'm not a burn it all down and risk. So I'm not a burn it all down and start over guy. I'm like we have a start over guy. I'm like we have a start over guy. I'm like we have a central bank. I wish we didn't. We central bank. I wish we didn't. We central bank. I wish we didn't. We shouldn't have ever created one but we shouldn't have ever created one but we shouldn't have ever created one but we have one. And so now we need to work have one. And so now we need to work have one. And so now we need to work within that system to write the ship within that system to write the ship within that system to write the ship before we just go and now we're going to before we just go and now we're going to before we just go and now we're going to terminate the um the central bank terminate the um the central bank terminate the um the central bank because people don't understand what the because people don't understand what the because people don't understand what the central bank protects them from. So, central bank protects them from. So, central bank protects them from. So, like many things, the central bank's a like many things, the central bank's a like many things, the central bank's a double-edged sword, and it really does double-edged sword, and it really does double-edged sword, and it really does awesome stuff, and then it also hurts awesome stuff, and then it also hurts awesome stuff, and then it also hurts you. It allows elites to extract from you. It allows elites to extract from you. It allows elites to extract from you. That's a easier way to say it or a you. That's a easier way to say it or a you. That's a easier way to say it or a more accurate way. Okay, I'm going to more accurate way. Okay, I'm going to more accurate way. Okay, I'm going to speedrun the answer to your Trump speedrun the answer to your Trump speedrun the answer to your Trump question. So, it goes like this. question. So, it goes like this. question. So, it goes like this. uh in a populous moment where people uh in a populous moment where people uh in a populous moment where people realize the pie is shrinking and they realize the pie is shrinking and they realize the pie is shrinking and they just want to make sure that they can just want to make sure that they can just want to make sure that they can stop feeling anxious, they turn it into stop feeling anxious, they turn it into stop feeling anxious, they turn it into anger, they summon a demon to work on anger, they summon a demon to work on anger, they summon a demon to work on their behalf to slap around the other their behalf to slap around the other their behalf to slap around the other side to get the pie for them. side to get the pie for them. side to get the pie for them. >> Uh you're going to get somebody like >> Uh you're going to get somebody like >> Uh you're going to get somebody like Trump whose natural proclivities are to Trump whose natural proclivities are to Trump whose natural proclivities are to um take and so he realizes, oh, I'm in a um take and so he realizes, oh, I'm in a um take and so he realizes, oh, I'm in a position where I can bully people. position where I can bully people. position where I can bully people. bullying people's very effective. So, bullying people's very effective. So, bullying people's very effective. So, I'm going to go bully people and I'm going to go bully people and I'm going to go bully people and actually make America strong again on an actually make America strong again on an actually make America strong again on an international stage. The bad news is he international stage. The bad news is he international stage. The bad news is he must do that. China will bully you. You must do that. China will bully you. You must do that. China will bully you. You do not want to live under China. People do not want to live under China. People do not want to live under China. People are delusional. They think that um China are delusional. They think that um China are delusional. They think that um China won't do to us what we've done to the won't do to us what we've done to the won't do to us what we've done to the rest of the world. And the only thing rest of the world. And the only thing rest of the world. And the only thing worse than being the bully, because worse than being the bully, because worse than being the bully, because being the bully is not great, the only being the bully is not great, the only being the bully is not great, the only thing worse than being the bully is thing worse than being the bully is thing worse than being the bully is being bullied. being bullied. being bullied. >> And so, you don't want to be in a >> And so, you don't want to be in a >> And so, you don't want to be in a position where China gets to control position where China gets to control position where China gets to control your future. are trying to get some your future. are trying to get some your future. are trying to get some control of the things that you do and control of the things that you do and control of the things that you do and don't do. That's I'm speaking for don't do. That's I'm speaking for don't do. That's I'm speaking for myself. I a thousand% am not prepared to myself. I a thousand% am not prepared to myself. I a thousand% am not prepared to do that. So, from where I'm sitting, do that. So, from where I'm sitting, do that. So, from where I'm sitting, Trump must do something now because this Trump must do something now because this Trump must do something now because this is a populist moment and we summoned a is a populist moment and we summoned a is a populist moment and we summoned a demon. We're now he's going to bully his demon. We're now he's going to bully his demon. We're now he's going to bully his way. That's just what he's going to do. way. That's just what he's going to do. way. That's just what he's going to do. Ambition grows in the Eden. So, with Ambition grows in the Eden. So, with Ambition grows in the Eden. So, with every success, he becomes more every success, he becomes more every success, he becomes more aggressive, not less. And so, he'll just aggressive, not less. And so, he'll just aggressive, not less. And so, he'll just keep going. Like, if if he were able to keep going. Like, if if he were able to keep going. Like, if if he were able to take Greenland, holy be Jesus. I don't take Greenland, holy be Jesus. I don't take Greenland, holy be Jesus. I don't even want to know what he would target even want to know what he would target even want to know what he would target next. But if it all just works, then next. But if it all just works, then next. But if it all just works, then he'll just keep going. As always, he'll just keep going. As always, he'll just keep going. As always, politicians will go until the internal politicians will go until the internal politicians will go until the internal morality of their country stops them or morality of their country stops them or morality of their country stops them or they hit sufficient violent force. So they hit sufficient violent force. So they hit sufficient violent force. So far, we've proven to only hit people far, we've proven to only hit people far, we've proven to only hit people that we can win on. So now we're that we can win on. So now we're that we can win on. So now we're stacking the winds. We went in and stacking the winds. We went in and stacking the winds. We went in and snatched Maduro, got control of their snatched Maduro, got control of their snatched Maduro, got control of their oil, sort of. That's more complicated, oil, sort of. That's more complicated, oil, sort of. That's more complicated, but we're speedrunning. uh we went in but we're speedrunning. uh we went in but we're speedrunning. uh we went in and stopped Iran from getting nuclear and stopped Iran from getting nuclear and stopped Iran from getting nuclear weapons. Um we are now threatening a weapons. Um we are now threatening a weapons. Um we are now threatening a NATO ally in Denmark by saying we are NATO ally in Denmark by saying we are NATO ally in Denmark by saying we are going to take their territory whether going to take their territory whether going to take their territory whether they want us to or not. So uh we're also they want us to or not. So uh we're also they want us to or not. So uh we're also threatening Mexico. So it's like yeah if threatening Mexico. So it's like yeah if threatening Mexico. So it's like yeah if these things work like he's just going these things work like he's just going these things work like he's just going to keep going and keep going and keep to keep going and keep going and keep to keep going and keep going and keep going if it's making him more popular at going if it's making him more popular at going if it's making him more popular at home if it's making America more home if it's making America more home if it's making America more prosperous. The bad news is it actually prosperous. The bad news is it actually prosperous. The bad news is it actually might make America more prosperous and might make America more prosperous and might make America more prosperous and we have to grow our way out of this. So we have to grow our way out of this. So we have to grow our way out of this. So he's also deregulating and so the he's also deregulating and so the he's also deregulating and so the deregulations might make us more deregulations might make us more deregulations might make us more prosperous. The tariffs are prosperous. The tariffs are prosperous. The tariffs are theoretically and I definitely need to theoretically and I definitely need to theoretically and I definitely need to hedge here are theoretically forcing hedge here are theoretically forcing hedge here are theoretically forcing other countries and companies to make other countries and companies to make other countries and companies to make massive investments in America which you massive investments in America which you massive investments in America which you need to do. You must bring manufacturing need to do. You must bring manufacturing need to do. You must bring manufacturing back to the US throughidities trap. you back to the US throughidities trap. you back to the US throughidities trap. you are right now you have a 75 just looking are right now you have a 75 just looking are right now you have a 75 just looking at history you have a 75% chance to end at history you have a 75% chance to end at history you have a 75% chance to end up in a kinetic war with China you up in a kinetic war with China you up in a kinetic war with China you cannot given that you cannot let China cannot given that you cannot let China cannot given that you cannot let China control your military supply chain which control your military supply chain which control your military supply chain which right now they do right now they do right now they do >> so you have to do something you have to >> so you have to do something you have to >> so you have to do something you have to secure these rights but now getting into secure these rights but now getting into secure these rights but now getting into well there's multiple ways to lose well there's multiple ways to lose well there's multiple ways to lose weight why are we doing it the least weight why are we doing it the least weight why are we doing it the least healthy way humanly possible you get healthy way humanly possible you get healthy way humanly possible you get into this is the kind of leader with the into this is the kind of leader with the into this is the kind of leader with the kind of personality that is going to kind of personality that is going to kind of personality that is going to come to power in a moment like come to power in a moment like come to power in a moment like It is also an extraordinarily divided It is also an extraordinarily divided It is also an extraordinarily divided world and so getting people moving in a world and so getting people moving in a world and so getting people moving in a direction you need a quote unquote direction you need a quote unquote direction you need a quote unquote strong man. If he wasn't willing to strong man. If he wasn't willing to strong man. If he wasn't willing to force his will then people aren't going force his will then people aren't going force his will then people aren't going to line up behind him even in a company to line up behind him even in a company to line up behind him even in a company man like if I'm not forceful enough man like if I'm not forceful enough man like if I'm not forceful enough about what we want to do. Now I try to about what we want to do. Now I try to about what we want to do. Now I try to do it via enthusiasm but like if I let do it via enthusiasm but like if I let do it via enthusiasm but like if I let people who were quietly trying to people who were quietly trying to people who were quietly trying to undermine the things that I'm trying to undermine the things that I'm trying to undermine the things that I'm trying to do stay then that toxin is going to do stay then that toxin is going to do stay then that toxin is going to spread throughout the company. And so spread throughout the company. And so spread throughout the company. And so you've got to be very careful and I have you've got to be very careful and I have you've got to be very careful and I have many times throughout this company's many times throughout this company's many times throughout this company's history pruned the people that I think history pruned the people that I think history pruned the people that I think are creating toxicity and you have to do are creating toxicity and you have to do are creating toxicity and you have to do it. So anyway, you've got to have a it. So anyway, you've got to have a it. So anyway, you've got to have a forceful will. You've got to have clear forceful will. You've got to have clear forceful will. You've got to have clear direction in terms of what you're trying direction in terms of what you're trying direction in terms of what you're trying to accomplish. And then you've got to be to accomplish. And then you've got to be to accomplish. And then you've got to be able to use all of your leverage to able to use all of your leverage to able to use all of your leverage to actually get that stuff to move forward. actually get that stuff to move forward. actually get that stuff to move forward. Now again, I forgive me. I know people Now again, I forgive me. I know people Now again, I forgive me. I know people hate it when I use this word, but I just hate it when I use this word, but I just hate it when I use this word, but I just am not wired to bow to pressure. Uh, but am not wired to bow to pressure. Uh, but am not wired to bow to pressure. Uh, but plug your children's ears. Trump uses plug your children's ears. Trump uses plug your children's ears. Trump uses grab them in the [ __ ] diplomacy. grab them in the [ __ ] diplomacy. grab them in the [ __ ] diplomacy. And I hate it. I think that it's super And I hate it. I think that it's super And I hate it. I think that it's super short-sighted. I think it is the John short-sighted. I think it is the John short-sighted. I think it is the John Wayne Bobbit of get laid strategies. And Wayne Bobbit of get laid strategies. And Wayne Bobbit of get laid strategies. And if you don't know who that is, um, his if you don't know who that is, um, his if you don't know who that is, um, his wife said that he would routinely rape wife said that he would routinely rape wife said that he would routinely rape her. And so one night he raped her, fell her. And so one night he raped her, fell her. And so one night he raped her, fell asleep, but she cut his dick off. asleep, but she cut his dick off. asleep, but she cut his dick off. >> Sheesh. >> Sheesh. >> Sheesh. >> Uh, that is a real story. Threw it out >> Uh, that is a real story. Threw it out >> Uh, that is a real story. Threw it out the window of a moving car, by the way, the window of a moving car, by the way, the window of a moving car, by the way, Drew. Um, so second and third order Drew. Um, so second and third order Drew. Um, so second and third order consequences can be a [ __ ] I don't consequences can be a [ __ ] I don't consequences can be a [ __ ] I don't know what the thing is that would put us know what the thing is that would put us know what the thing is that would put us in the weakened position where we will in the weakened position where we will in the weakened position where we will need allies, but life has a way of need allies, but life has a way of need allies, but life has a way of putting you in a weakened position where putting you in a weakened position where putting you in a weakened position where you need allies. And if we have bullied you need allies. And if we have bullied you need allies. And if we have bullied all of our allies, maybe we got what we all of our allies, maybe we got what we all of our allies, maybe we got what we wanted in the short term, but we are wanted in the short term, but we are wanted in the short term, but we are certainly not going to get what we want certainly not going to get what we want certainly not going to get what we want in the long term. So I for one not a fan in the long term. So I for one not a fan in the long term. So I for one not a fan of that style diplomacy. Um, I think of that style diplomacy. Um, I think of that style diplomacy. Um, I think seduction is a far more effective way to seduction is a far more effective way to seduction is a far more effective way to get what you want in life. Um, so we are get what you want in life. Um, so we are get what you want in life. Um, so we are where we are. where we are. where we are. >> Last thing, um, somebody in the chat >> Last thing, um, somebody in the chat >> Last thing, um, somebody in the chat called this out, so I feel like I have called this out, so I feel like I have called this out, so I feel like I have to bring it up. to bring it up. to bring it up. >> They called what? >> They called what? >> They called what? >> They called this out that I'm about to >> They called this out that I'm about to >> They called this out that I'm about to say. They have to fight to bring it up. say. They have to fight to bring it up. say. They have to fight to bring it up. It went from like ISIS is out of control It went from like ISIS is out of control It went from like ISIS is out of control to like the uh origin of populism. Um, to like the uh origin of populism. Um, to like the uh origin of populism. Um, if you were president, and I know you if you were president, and I know you if you were president, and I know you never want to be, never want to be, never want to be, >> and you had a $7 trillion budget to >> and you had a $7 trillion budget to >> and you had a $7 trillion budget to allocate, uh, would you spend 2.5 allocate, uh, would you spend 2.5 allocate, uh, would you spend 2.5 trillion of that on ICE and federal trillion of that on ICE and federal trillion of that on ICE and federal military, I'm including the.5 increase military, I'm including the.5 increase military, I'm including the.5 increase he just announced, or would you maybe he just announced, or would you maybe he just announced, or would you maybe invest in small local businesses, trade invest in small local businesses, trade invest in small local businesses, trade schools, entrepreneurs, kids who have schools, entrepreneurs, kids who have schools, entrepreneurs, kids who have good ideas? Like, how would you good ideas? Like, how would you good ideas? Like, how would you allocate? give you a flippant answer allocate? give you a flippant answer allocate? give you a flippant answer because I think what you want is um a because I think what you want is um a because I think what you want is um a sort of directional like what do you sort of directional like what do you sort of directional like what do you think about this value? think about this value? think about this value? >> I'm laying it out there. This if you say >> I'm laying it out there. This if you say >> I'm laying it out there. This if you say that's how it should be then that's how that's how it should be then that's how that's how it should be then that's how it should be. I get it. it should be. I get it. it should be. I get it. >> I that is not where I would spend my >> I that is not where I would spend my >> I that is not where I would spend my money. money. money. >> But in terms of what he should do in >> But in terms of what he should do in >> But in terms of what he should do in this moment with this, the answer to me this moment with this, the answer to me this moment with this, the answer to me being on the outside, not being close to being on the outside, not being close to being on the outside, not being close to it, not seeing how bad it is, all of it, not seeing how bad it is, all of it, not seeing how bad it is, all of that. My answer is you have to go in and that. My answer is you have to go in and that. My answer is you have to go in and do conspicuous acts of kindness. like do conspicuous acts of kindness. like do conspicuous acts of kindness. like you've got to find a way to bring these you've got to find a way to bring these you've got to find a way to bring these together. You have to turn to the ICE together. You have to turn to the ICE together. You have to turn to the ICE agents and make them feel like um you agents and make them feel like um you agents and make them feel like um you guys are, guys are, guys are, you know me, so I use these words in you know me, so I use these words in you know me, so I use these words in maybe a different way, but you guys are maybe a different way, but you guys are maybe a different way, but you guys are doing God's work. And what we need right doing God's work. And what we need right doing God's work. And what we need right now is you guys have to have uh just you now is you guys have to have uh just you now is you guys have to have uh just you have to be squeaky clean. Mhm. have to be squeaky clean. Mhm. have to be squeaky clean. Mhm. >> I don't know if this is what actually >> I don't know if this is what actually >> I don't know if this is what actually happened, but um supposedly in the movie happened, but um supposedly in the movie happened, but um supposedly in the movie when Jackie Robinson, the first black uh when Jackie Robinson, the first black uh when Jackie Robinson, the first black uh Major League Baseball player, started Major League Baseball player, started Major League Baseball player, started playing, he said basically uh something playing, he said basically uh something playing, he said basically uh something along the lines to the guy that was along the lines to the guy that was along the lines to the guy that was getting him in the game, like um getting him in the game, like um getting him in the game, like um I I'm not sure what you're asking of me. I I'm not sure what you're asking of me. I I'm not sure what you're asking of me. And the guy says, "What I'm asking for And the guy says, "What I'm asking for And the guy says, "What I'm asking for you is to be so strong that you don't you is to be so strong that you don't you is to be so strong that you don't have to fight back." And that's what we have to fight back." And that's what we have to fight back." And that's what we need out of the ICE agents. Not that need out of the ICE agents. Not that need out of the ICE agents. Not that they let themselves get run over by they let themselves get run over by they let themselves get run over by cars, but that they understand that um cars, but that they understand that um cars, but that they understand that um we have to go way above and beyond as we have to go way above and beyond as we have to go way above and beyond as representatives of the United States representatives of the United States representatives of the United States government who must show love to the government who must show love to the government who must show love to the people in their country. You have to people in their country. You have to people in their country. You have to have law and order. But you can get it have law and order. But you can get it have law and order. But you can get it this way or you can get it by showing this way or you can get it by showing this way or you can get it by showing people we're on your side. This is what people we're on your side. This is what people we're on your side. This is what we're trying to get to. This is how we're trying to get to. This is how we're trying to get to. This is how we're going to get it. Now, I don't even we're going to get it. Now, I don't even we're going to get it. Now, I don't even need to read the comments to understand need to read the comments to understand need to read the comments to understand that people are going to say that that's that people are going to say that that's that people are going to say that that's polyianaish, which is one of the many polyianaish, which is one of the many polyianaish, which is one of the many reasons that I am not uh a politician reasons that I am not uh a politician reasons that I am not uh a politician because I get that. But if you want to because I get that. But if you want to because I get that. But if you want to understand what the goal is, I hope understand what the goal is, I hope understand what the goal is, I hope people will read Nelson Mandela's long people will read Nelson Mandela's long people will read Nelson Mandela's long walk to freedom. I do not expect Nelson walk to freedom. I do not expect Nelson walk to freedom. I do not expect Nelson Mandela to be a perfect person. I'm sure Mandela to be a perfect person. I'm sure Mandela to be a perfect person. I'm sure he was not, and I know that he had he was not, and I know that he had he was not, and I know that he had troubles with his wife and all kinds of troubles with his wife and all kinds of troubles with his wife and all kinds of stuff, and I'm sure he did bad things uh stuff, and I'm sure he did bad things uh stuff, and I'm sure he did bad things uh in his early revolutionary days. in his early revolutionary days. in his early revolutionary days. Whatever. Nonetheless, when he came out, Whatever. Nonetheless, when he came out, Whatever. Nonetheless, when he came out, his whole thing was we have to find a his whole thing was we have to find a his whole thing was we have to find a path of unity. And I'm just saying that path of unity. And I'm just saying that path of unity. And I'm just saying that would be the drum that I would beat to would be the drum that I would beat to would be the drum that I would beat to death. No matter how hard it is, you death. No matter how hard it is, you death. No matter how hard it is, you have to find a path to unity. But that's have to find a path to unity. But that's have to find a path to unity. But that's not who comes to power in a populist not who comes to power in a populist not who comes to power in a populist moment. It's not even who grows big moment. It's not even who grows big moment. It's not even who grows big YouTube channels, Drew. I literally YouTube channels, Drew. I literally YouTube channels, Drew. I literally every day think if I just came on here, every day think if I just came on here, every day think if I just came on here, picked a side, and went hard on that picked a side, and went hard on that picked a side, and went hard on that side, we would quintuple in size rapidly side, we would quintuple in size rapidly side, we would quintuple in size rapidly because I know what people want. So, I'm because I know what people want. So, I'm because I know what people want. So, I'm just like, but in the long term, I think just like, but in the long term, I think just like, but in the long term, I think those people fizzle out. Uh, and anyway, those people fizzle out. Uh, and anyway, those people fizzle out. Uh, and anyway, the only thing I care about in life is the only thing I care about in life is the only thing I care about in life is earning my own respect, and that would earning my own respect, and that would earning my own respect, and that would not lead me to earn my own respect. not lead me to earn my own respect. not lead me to earn my own respect. >> We've got some super chats. >> We've got some super chats. >> We've got some super chats. >> Let's go. >> Let's go. >> Let's go. >> Hey, sweet. >> Hey, sweet. >> Hey, sweet. >> Uh, superhat. >> Uh, superhat. >> Uh, superhat. >> You guys are hilarious. >> You guys are hilarious. >> You guys are hilarious. >> First up from Fruital Loops. Uh, I read >> First up from Fruital Loops. Uh, I read >> First up from Fruital Loops. Uh, I read a book called The Nazi Seizure of Power a book called The Nazi Seizure of Power a book called The Nazi Seizure of Power written in the 60s that examines a written in the 60s that examines a written in the 60s that examines a single small town in Germany from single small town in Germany from single small town in Germany from pre-Naziism through full Nazi power. pre-Naziism through full Nazi power. pre-Naziism through full Nazi power. MAGA is SS. No, MAGA rhymes with early MAGA is SS. No, MAGA rhymes with early MAGA is SS. No, MAGA rhymes with early chapters in that book. Certainly. chapters in that book. Certainly. chapters in that book. Certainly. >> Yeah, that sounds about right. Listen, >> Yeah, that sounds about right. Listen, >> Yeah, that sounds about right. Listen, uh if you think of SS as Hitler and not uh if you think of SS as Hitler and not uh if you think of SS as Hitler and not the human tendency to want to control the human tendency to want to control the human tendency to want to control and the realization that nature has saw and the realization that nature has saw and the realization that nature has saw fit to give us archetypes of humans that fit to give us archetypes of humans that fit to give us archetypes of humans that are sociopathic and they will just kill are sociopathic and they will just kill are sociopathic and they will just kill kill kill. And the reason they will kill kill kill. And the reason they will kill kill kill. And the reason they will kill kill is because it is deadly efficient. kill is because it is deadly efficient. kill is because it is deadly efficient. It is so efficient. And so, uh, there's It is so efficient. And so, uh, there's It is so efficient. And so, uh, there's just some people that don't have the just some people that don't have the just some people that don't have the internal moral compass and they will do internal moral compass and they will do internal moral compass and they will do it. There's a book called Ordinary Men. it. There's a book called Ordinary Men. it. There's a book called Ordinary Men. And full disclosure, I've not read it, And full disclosure, I've not read it, And full disclosure, I've not read it, but I get the gist, which is that you but I get the gist, which is that you but I get the gist, which is that you can by slowly boiling that frog, you can can by slowly boiling that frog, you can can by slowly boiling that frog, you can get ordinary men to shoot a naked get ordinary men to shoot a naked get ordinary men to shoot a naked pregnant woman in the back of the head pregnant woman in the back of the head pregnant woman in the back of the head in the middle of a field in the winter. in the middle of a field in the winter. in the middle of a field in the winter. >> And it's like, >> And it's like, >> And it's like, >> they shot a woman in the face in broad >> they shot a woman in the face in broad >> they shot a woman in the face in broad daylight and got away with it. So, daylight and got away with it. So, daylight and got away with it. So, >> yeah. And we're getting close. expect it >> yeah. And we're getting close. expect it >> yeah. And we're getting close. expect it to go on and on and on. But uh the thing to go on and on and on. But uh the thing to go on and on and on. But uh the thing I think, Drew, that I'm beseeching you I think, Drew, that I'm beseeching you I think, Drew, that I'm beseeching you to to to >> um Yes. Right. It's good work. >> um Yes. Right. It's good work. >> um Yes. Right. It's good work. >> That's a biblical word. >> That's a biblical word. >> That's a biblical word. >> I beseech you. >> I beseech you. >> I beseech you. >> I >> I >> I not to not not to derail us, but yes, I not to not not to derail us, but yes, I not to not not to derail us, but yes, I grew up in the uh the Christian Mill. Uh grew up in the uh the Christian Mill. Uh grew up in the uh the Christian Mill. Uh so the thing that I'm beseeching you to so the thing that I'm beseeching you to so the thing that I'm beseeching you to see because I think it is so high see because I think it is so high see because I think it is so high utility is that these things are born of utility is that these things are born of utility is that these things are born of the architecture of the human mind the architecture of the human mind the architecture of the human mind >> that it isn't about Trump or whatever >> that it isn't about Trump or whatever >> that it isn't about Trump or whatever whatever and that's why these things are whatever and that's why these things are whatever and that's why these things are so terrifyingly difficult to stop. This so terrifyingly difficult to stop. This so terrifyingly difficult to stop. This is just humans are a mass of and I is just humans are a mass of and I is just humans are a mass of and I include myself in this but we're a mass include myself in this but we're a mass include myself in this but we're a mass of NPCs. We have programming and so when of NPCs. We have programming and so when of NPCs. We have programming and so when a stimulus happens it has a a stimulus happens it has a a stimulus happens it has a largely knowable it's not predictable largely knowable it's not predictable largely knowable it's not predictable but it has a largely knowable like but it has a largely knowable like but it has a largely knowable like reaction set as you zoom out. reaction set as you zoom out. reaction set as you zoom out. >> You're not going to be able to predict >> You're not going to be able to predict >> You're not going to be able to predict the you know butterfly flaps of the you know butterfly flaps of the you know butterfly flaps of individual wings but you can come out individual wings but you can come out individual wings but you can come out and you can start like we can with the and you can start like we can with the and you can start like we can with the weather. You can start saying 10 days weather. You can start saying 10 days weather. You can start saying 10 days out this is roughly what's going to out this is roughly what's going to out this is roughly what's going to happen or we know that winter comes happen or we know that winter comes happen or we know that winter comes roughly at this period. We know the roughly at this period. We know the roughly at this period. We know the shortest day of the year is this. Like shortest day of the year is this. Like shortest day of the year is this. Like there are just so many patterns to human there are just so many patterns to human there are just so many patterns to human behavior. Uh, and so that helps us find behavior. Uh, and so that helps us find behavior. Uh, and so that helps us find the actual cause and effect instead of the actual cause and effect instead of the actual cause and effect instead of just the, um, just the, um, just the, um, like overfocusing on like overfocusing on like overfocusing on ICE agents being brutal [ __ ] ICE agents being brutal [ __ ] ICE agents being brutal [ __ ] uh, protesters being unnecessarily uh, protesters being unnecessarily uh, protesters being unnecessarily confrontational. It's like, don't get confrontational. It's like, don't get confrontational. It's like, don't get lost in that sauce because that happened lost in that sauce because that happened lost in that sauce because that happened for largely knowable reasons. for largely knowable reasons. for largely knowable reasons. >> Yes. I just still think that we should >> Yes. I just still think that we should >> Yes. I just still think that we should talk about it. I still think that it talk about it. I still think that it talk about it. I still think that it shouldn't be okay. I don't think it shouldn't be okay. I don't think it shouldn't be okay. I don't think it should be normalized. I don't think that should be normalized. I don't think that should be normalized. I don't think that it's okay. I think anytime somebody it's okay. I think anytime somebody it's okay. I think anytime somebody dies, it's a tragedy. But maybe I'm just dies, it's a tragedy. But maybe I'm just dies, it's a tragedy. But maybe I'm just a naive uh Christian boy and I like a naive uh Christian boy and I like a naive uh Christian boy and I like Jesus too much. My bad. Jesus too much. My bad. Jesus too much. My bad. >> But this is great. And so >> But this is great. And so >> But this is great. And so >> everybody, let's be like maybe I >> everybody, let's be like maybe I >> everybody, let's be like maybe I hardcore. Maybe I need to get like a hardcore. Maybe I need to get like a hardcore. Maybe I need to get like a Jaco Willick vest and you know, start Jaco Willick vest and you know, start Jaco Willick vest and you know, start doing more push-ups and maybe I won't doing more push-ups and maybe I won't doing more push-ups and maybe I won't care as much. But to me, like any death care as much. But to me, like any death care as much. But to me, like any death is a tragedy if it could be avoided. And is a tragedy if it could be avoided. And is a tragedy if it could be avoided. And that's whether you're sick with cancer that's whether you're sick with cancer that's whether you're sick with cancer and you're in chemo or whether you're and you're in chemo or whether you're and you're in chemo or whether you're driving down the street. driving down the street. driving down the street. >> I love it. I would just say um >> I love it. I would just say um >> I love it. I would just say um my advice to you as a friend, you you my advice to you as a friend, you you my advice to you as a friend, you you can't let can't let can't let people make you feel like you have to people make you feel like you have to people make you feel like you have to handwave away what you think, which is handwave away what you think, which is handwave away what you think, which is not hand people feel you have to hand. I not hand people feel you have to hand. I not hand people feel you have to hand. I feel like watching you feels like feel like watching you feels like feel like watching you feels like somebody who is talking to the comment somebody who is talking to the comment somebody who is talking to the comment section section section >> uh at the end of all of your very valid >> uh at the end of all of your very valid >> uh at the end of all of your very valid points. You'll give a very valid point points. You'll give a very valid point points. You'll give a very valid point and then go but maybe I'm just a naive and then go but maybe I'm just a naive and then go but maybe I'm just a naive Christian boy. Uh and I'm saying yeah Christian boy. Uh and I'm saying yeah Christian boy. Uh and I'm saying yeah say the thing like if there's something say the thing like if there's something say the thing like if there's something you've got a platform like you've got a platform like you've got a platform like unintentionally Drew by producing this unintentionally Drew by producing this unintentionally Drew by producing this show you became somebody with a voice. show you became somebody with a voice. show you became somebody with a voice. What do you think needs to be said? What What do you think needs to be said? What What do you think needs to be said? What isn't okay? isn't okay? isn't okay? >> People shouldn't get shot in the face. I >> People shouldn't get shot in the face. I >> People shouldn't get shot in the face. I think I said it. I'll also say that chat think I said it. I'll also say that chat think I said it. I'll also say that chat is always split on everything that you is always split on everything that you is always split on everything that you say. So, you're probably seeing a lot of say. So, you're probably seeing a lot of say. So, you're probably seeing a lot of negative, bro. There's a lot of negative, bro. There's a lot of negative, bro. There's a lot of >> I'm not talking to these trolls. There's >> I'm not talking to these trolls. There's >> I'm not talking to these trolls. There's a guy that trolls me every comment. I a guy that trolls me every comment. I a guy that trolls me every comment. I know who you are. I'm not going to know who you are. I'm not going to know who you are. I'm not going to mention you cuz you're not that famous. mention you cuz you're not that famous. mention you cuz you're not that famous. I'm not going to put you on this I'm not going to put you on this I'm not going to put you on this platform. It's like Michael. It's like platform. It's like Michael. It's like platform. It's like Michael. It's like Jay-Z said, like, I put you on the Jay-Z said, like, I put you on the Jay-Z said, like, I put you on the SummerJam stream. I'm not going to put SummerJam stream. I'm not going to put SummerJam stream. I'm not going to put you on the Summer Jam screen. You're you on the Summer Jam screen. You're you on the Summer Jam screen. You're going to be anonymous in all your going to be anonymous in all your going to be anonymous in all your trollness and I know who you are and it trollness and I know who you are and it trollness and I know who you are and it you cuz you say all the things that you you cuz you say all the things that you you cuz you say all the things that you want me to react to, but I'm not cuz want me to react to, but I'm not cuz want me to react to, but I'm not cuz that's what you want. You eat off of that's what you want. You eat off of that's what you want. You eat off of that. But I drink your tears. Why do I that. But I drink your tears. Why do I that. But I drink your tears. Why do I care about your praise? I see what you care about your praise? I see what you care about your praise? I see what you celebrate. That was a Rick and Morty celebrate. That was a Rick and Morty celebrate. That was a Rick and Morty quote, but it's still relevant. quote, but it's still relevant. quote, but it's still relevant. >> I love it. >> I love it. >> I love it. >> But >> But >> But >> we've got one more. >> we've got one more. >> we've got one more. >> Go for it. >> Go for it. >> Go for it. >> Uh, why aren't you commenting? This is >> Uh, why aren't you commenting? This is >> Uh, why aren't you commenting? This is from R.J. Johnson. Why aren't you from R.J. Johnson. Why aren't you from R.J. Johnson. Why aren't you commenting on the new GDP release commenting on the new GDP release commenting on the new GDP release yesterday, 4.3% for third quarter 25 and yesterday, 4.3% for third quarter 25 and yesterday, 4.3% for third quarter 25 and projected fourth quarter 25 at 5.1%. projected fourth quarter 25 at 5.1%. projected fourth quarter 25 at 5.1%. >> Just been bigger fish to fry. So, if uh >> Just been bigger fish to fry. So, if uh >> Just been bigger fish to fry. So, if uh we're we're going to find out in the we're we're going to find out in the we're we're going to find out in the midterms if enough of the things that midterms if enough of the things that midterms if enough of the things that Trump is doing actually come together to Trump is doing actually come together to Trump is doing actually come together to make life better for uh middle America. make life better for uh middle America. make life better for uh middle America. If it does, that would be tremendous. At If it does, that would be tremendous. At If it does, that would be tremendous. At least get a positive first order least get a positive first order least get a positive first order consequence. If we're going to do all consequence. If we're going to do all consequence. If we're going to do all this madness, uh then let's at least this madness, uh then let's at least this madness, uh then let's at least make sure that it actually helps the make sure that it actually helps the make sure that it actually helps the people that we're trying to help. So, people that we're trying to help. So, people that we're trying to help. So, yeah, I hope that it works. I hope that yeah, I hope that it works. I hope that yeah, I hope that it works. I hope that it works. And sometimes I worry that the it works. And sometimes I worry that the it works. And sometimes I worry that the morass of politics is such that if morass of politics is such that if morass of politics is such that if somebody like Trump didn't come in, act somebody like Trump didn't come in, act somebody like Trump didn't come in, act like a toddler, smash things, tip things like a toddler, smash things, tip things like a toddler, smash things, tip things over, that we would never get unstuck. over, that we would never get unstuck. over, that we would never get unstuck. So he's at least doing that. And if if So he's at least doing that. And if if So he's at least doing that. And if if the conspiracy theory that grows in my the conspiracy theory that grows in my the conspiracy theory that grows in my mind is true and Brussels as a uh proxy mind is true and Brussels as a uh proxy mind is true and Brussels as a uh proxy for London bankers really are just for London bankers really are just for London bankers really are just building a an extractive world order. Um building a an extractive world order. Um building a an extractive world order. Um somebody's got to break it. somebody's got to break it. somebody's got to break it. >> I've also got just one fun chat uh to >> I've also got just one fun chat uh to >> I've also got just one fun chat uh to throw in here. Uh, the sore fingertips throw in here. Uh, the sore fingertips throw in here. Uh, the sore fingertips said, "I see Tom as newly wealthy and said, "I see Tom as newly wealthy and said, "I see Tom as newly wealthy and very ambitious and Drew is fairly very ambitious and Drew is fairly very ambitious and Drew is fairly wealthy and with average level wealthy and with average level wealthy and with average level ambition." I just thought that was kind ambition." I just thought that was kind ambition." I just thought that was kind of funny. of funny. of funny. >> Interesting. Okay. >> Interesting. Okay. >> Interesting. Okay. I don't know how to read that. I don't know how to read that. I don't know how to read that. >> Anyways, what do we have next? >> Anyways, what do we have next? >> Anyways, what do we have next? >> Um, just to put a pin in Minnesota, >> Um, just to put a pin in Minnesota, >> Um, just to put a pin in Minnesota, Trump ended the uh TPS status for the Trump ended the uh TPS status for the Trump ended the uh TPS status for the Somali in uh the US. Um, thousands will Somali in uh the US. Um, thousands will Somali in uh the US. Um, thousands will need to be required to leave by March need to be required to leave by March need to be required to leave by March 17th or you get a knock on the door from 17th or you get a knock on the door from 17th or you get a knock on the door from ICE. uh level set us on this. ICE. uh level set us on this. ICE. uh level set us on this. >> Here we go. In a major escalation of its >> Here we go. In a major escalation of its >> Here we go. In a major escalation of its immigration enforcement agenda, the immigration enforcement agenda, the immigration enforcement agenda, the Trump administration has officially Trump administration has officially Trump administration has officially terminated the temporary protected terminated the temporary protected terminated the temporary protected status for nationals of Somalia. The status for nationals of Somalia. The status for nationals of Somalia. The decision announced on January 13th by decision announced on January 13th by decision announced on January 13th by Department of Homeland Security Department of Homeland Security Department of Homeland Security Secretary Christy Gnome requires Somali Secretary Christy Gnome requires Somali Secretary Christy Gnome requires Somali TPS beneficiaries to leave the United TPS beneficiaries to leave the United TPS beneficiaries to leave the United States by March 17th of this year or States by March 17th of this year or States by March 17th of this year or face deportation. face deportation. face deportation. Estimates vary across sources in terms Estimates vary across sources in terms Estimates vary across sources in terms of how many people this affects. of how many people this affects. of how many people this affects. Official USCIS data cited in reports Official USCIS data cited in reports Official USCIS data cited in reports indicate approximately 705 to,00 current indicate approximately 705 to,00 current indicate approximately 705 to,00 current people with this particular TPS status people with this particular TPS status people with this particular TPS status with up to 2471 with up to 2471 with up to 2471 beneficiaries and another 1,383 pending beneficiaries and another 1,383 pending beneficiaries and another 1,383 pending applications that will potentially be applications that will potentially be applications that will potentially be impacted. Now the rationale from DHS as impacted. Now the rationale from DHS as impacted. Now the rationale from DHS as stated by sec secretary gnome states stated by sec secretary gnome states stated by sec secretary gnome states temporary means temporary country temporary means temporary country temporary means temporary country conditions in Somalia have improved to conditions in Somalia have improved to conditions in Somalia have improved to the point that it no longer meets the the point that it no longer meets the the point that it no longer meets the law's requirement for temporary law's requirement for temporary law's requirement for temporary protected status. Further allowing protected status. Further allowing protected status. Further allowing Somali nationals to remain temporarily Somali nationals to remain temporarily Somali nationals to remain temporarily in the United States is contrary to our in the United States is contrary to our in the United States is contrary to our national interests. We are putting national interests. We are putting national interests. We are putting Americans first. TPS4 Somalia first Americans first. TPS4 Somalia first Americans first. TPS4 Somalia first originated in 1991 under George HW Bush originated in 1991 under George HW Bush originated in 1991 under George HW Bush and the civil war that was happening at and the civil war that was happening at and the civil war that was happening at the time. It has been repeatedly the time. It has been repeatedly the time. It has been repeatedly extended by subsequent administrations, extended by subsequent administrations, extended by subsequent administrations, most recently by President Biden in most recently by President Biden in most recently by President Biden in September of 2024. The termination September of 2024. The termination September of 2024. The termination aligns with broader Trump administration aligns with broader Trump administration aligns with broader Trump administration efforts to limit temporary protective efforts to limit temporary protective efforts to limit temporary protective status designations following similar status designations following similar status designations following similar moves for other countries. So obviously moves for other countries. So obviously moves for other countries. So obviously uh Trump is ultra gung-ho about making uh Trump is ultra gung-ho about making uh Trump is ultra gung-ho about making good on the promise to deport illegal good on the promise to deport illegal good on the promise to deport illegal immigrants. I think that as the fraud immigrants. I think that as the fraud immigrants. I think that as the fraud continues to be uncovered in not just continues to be uncovered in not just continues to be uncovered in not just Minnesota but also California, we are Minnesota but also California, we are Minnesota but also California, we are finally going to understand that we are finally going to understand that we are finally going to understand that we are underwater by roughly $2 trillion a year underwater by roughly $2 trillion a year underwater by roughly $2 trillion a year on our budget. That is the thing that is on our budget. That is the thing that is on our budget. That is the thing that is driving all of the unease across the driving all of the unease across the driving all of the unease across the country. And one of the problems that we country. And one of the problems that we country. And one of the problems that we have is that you're inviting people into have is that you're inviting people into have is that you're inviting people into the country and telling them that, hey, the country and telling them that, hey, the country and telling them that, hey, from day one, some of you are going to from day one, some of you are going to from day one, some of you are going to be able to get access to services. And be able to get access to services. And be able to get access to services. And this is where people point to the Statue this is where people point to the Statue this is where people point to the Statue of Liberty and say, "Listen, our whole of Liberty and say, "Listen, our whole of Liberty and say, "Listen, our whole country is based on immigrants. How country is based on immigrants. How country is based on immigrants. How could we not want more immigrants in the could we not want more immigrants in the could we not want more immigrants in the country? Is it not um hypocritical of country? Is it not um hypocritical of country? Is it not um hypocritical of us? Are we not just pulling up the us? Are we not just pulling up the us? Are we not just pulling up the ladder?" But the reality is, remember ladder?" But the reality is, remember ladder?" But the reality is, remember the period of American history that the period of American history that the period of American history that prompted France to give us the Statue of prompted France to give us the Statue of prompted France to give us the Statue of Liberty and engrave upon it, send me Liberty and engrave upon it, send me Liberty and engrave upon it, send me your poor, tired, huddle masses yearning your poor, tired, huddle masses yearning your poor, tired, huddle masses yearning to breathe free was a period in which to breathe free was a period in which to breathe free was a period in which you got [ __ ] all when you rolled up to you got [ __ ] all when you rolled up to you got [ __ ] all when you rolled up to the shores of America. If you didn't the shores of America. If you didn't the shores of America. If you didn't starve to death and you could make it, starve to death and you could make it, starve to death and you could make it, then you were smart enough, then you were smart enough, then you were smart enough, entrepreneurial enough that you could entrepreneurial enough that you could entrepreneurial enough that you could make something of yourself in America. make something of yourself in America. make something of yourself in America. There was a reason they used to say of There was a reason they used to say of There was a reason they used to say of New York, if you can make it here, you New York, if you can make it here, you New York, if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere because it was can make it anywhere because it was can make it anywhere because it was hard. It was a survival crafting game hard. It was a survival crafting game hard. It was a survival crafting game and you died if you couldn't play it and you died if you couldn't play it and you died if you couldn't play it well. And when I say died, I don't mean well. And when I say died, I don't mean well. And when I say died, I don't mean that hyperbolically. I mean literally that hyperbolically. I mean literally that hyperbolically. I mean literally people died in droves coming to America people died in droves coming to America people died in droves coming to America because there was nobody here to save because there was nobody here to save because there was nobody here to save them. In fact, it was wildly hostile. So them. In fact, it was wildly hostile. So them. In fact, it was wildly hostile. So the early Americans had a le the ones the early Americans had a le the ones the early Americans had a le the ones that survived had a level of gumption, that survived had a level of gumption, that survived had a level of gumption, entrepreneurial spirit, uh can do entrepreneurial spirit, uh can do entrepreneurial spirit, uh can do attitude that they were able to build attitude that they were able to build attitude that they were able to build the country that became the strongest the country that became the strongest the country that became the strongest economy in the world. When like so many economy in the world. When like so many economy in the world. When like so many other countries before us, you send up other countries before us, you send up other countries before us, you send up the bat signal and tell everybody, hey, the bat signal and tell everybody, hey, the bat signal and tell everybody, hey, come on into America, and then you don't come on into America, and then you don't come on into America, and then you don't make them um stand in their own two make them um stand in their own two make them um stand in their own two feet, then you run into economic feet, then you run into economic feet, then you run into economic problems. And that is one of the things problems. And that is one of the things problems. And that is one of the things that we're struggling with right now. So that we're struggling with right now. So that we're struggling with right now. So even though I despise the blunt force even though I despise the blunt force even though I despise the blunt force trauma methods that Trump uses, you trauma methods that Trump uses, you trauma methods that Trump uses, you absolutely must have a secure border. absolutely must have a secure border. absolutely must have a secure border. You absolutely cannot be giving out You absolutely cannot be giving out You absolutely cannot be giving out welfare and allowing immigrants into welfare and allowing immigrants into welfare and allowing immigrants into your country. You can do you can allow your country. You can do you can allow your country. You can do you can allow immigrants in, but they're going to have immigrants in, but they're going to have immigrants in, but they're going to have to stand on their own two feet. to stand on their own two feet. to stand on their own two feet. Full stop. Full stop. Full stop. >> Yeah, we'll see what happens. Um and we >> Yeah, we'll see what happens. Um and we >> Yeah, we'll see what happens. Um and we will keep a close eye on developing will keep a close eye on developing will keep a close eye on developing immigration. Um, we got to talk about immigration. Um, we got to talk about immigration. Um, we got to talk about Iran because those death numbers keep Iran because those death numbers keep Iran because those death numbers keep piling up. I've seen everything from piling up. I've seen everything from piling up. I've seen everything from 2500 confirmed to 12,000 unconfirmed. 2500 confirmed to 12,000 unconfirmed. 2500 confirmed to 12,000 unconfirmed. Apparently, when they shut down the Apparently, when they shut down the Apparently, when they shut down the internet, they secretly switched the internet, they secretly switched the internet, they secretly switched the rubber bullets into real bullets. Um, so rubber bullets into real bullets. Um, so rubber bullets into real bullets. Um, so it's just getting um a lot crazier. Um, it's just getting um a lot crazier. Um, it's just getting um a lot crazier. Um, what's your opinion on Iran? What's what's your opinion on Iran? What's what's your opinion on Iran? What's going on over there? Well, first of all, going on over there? Well, first of all, going on over there? Well, first of all, I want to send all of my uh love and I want to send all of my uh love and I want to send all of my uh love and just will to see anybody that wants to just will to see anybody that wants to just will to see anybody that wants to be free to be able to fight for their be free to be able to fight for their be free to be able to fight for their freedom. I am the enemy of theocracies freedom. I am the enemy of theocracies freedom. I am the enemy of theocracies worldwide. So, um I can only imagine if worldwide. So, um I can only imagine if worldwide. So, um I can only imagine if half of what is coming out of Iran is half of what is coming out of Iran is half of what is coming out of Iran is actually true. Um that every bit of actually true. Um that every bit of actually true. Um that every bit of emotional support that you guys can get emotional support that you guys can get emotional support that you guys can get goes a long way. and certainly having goes a long way. and certainly having goes a long way. and certainly having some real backing uh from allies around some real backing uh from allies around some real backing uh from allies around the world would be useful. But with the world would be useful. But with the world would be useful. But with that, the facts go like this. Iran's that, the facts go like this. Iran's that, the facts go like this. Iran's nationwide protests enter their third nationwide protests enter their third nationwide protests enter their third week amid reports of brutal crackdowns week amid reports of brutal crackdowns week amid reports of brutal crackdowns that have left thousands dead. As of that have left thousands dead. As of that have left thousands dead. As of this morning, anti-government protests this morning, anti-government protests this morning, anti-government protests in Iran sparked by economic collapse. in Iran sparked by economic collapse. in Iran sparked by economic collapse. Remember, it all starts with the economy Remember, it all starts with the economy Remember, it all starts with the economy uh are evolving into calls for regime uh are evolving into calls for regime uh are evolving into calls for regime change. They have persisted despite a change. They have persisted despite a change. They have persisted despite a severe government response that severe government response that severe government response that reportedly includes mass killings, reportedly includes mass killings, reportedly includes mass killings, trickery, arrests, and multi-day near trickery, arrests, and multi-day near trickery, arrests, and multi-day near total communications blackout. Per total communications blackout. Per total communications blackout. Per usual, it all kicked off when the usual, it all kicked off when the usual, it all kicked off when the economy began to crumble under the economy began to crumble under the economy began to crumble under the weight of sanctions and mismanagement. weight of sanctions and mismanagement. weight of sanctions and mismanagement. And under the massive accelerant of And under the massive accelerant of And under the massive accelerant of hyperinflation, what began as hyperinflation, what began as hyperinflation, what began as demonstrations against soaring prices demonstrations against soaring prices demonstrations against soaring prices and currency devaluation in late and currency devaluation in late and currency devaluation in late December has spread to over 100 cities December has spread to over 100 cities December has spread to over 100 cities across all 31 provinces, drawing in across all 31 provinces, drawing in across all 31 provinces, drawing in workers, students, and diverse social workers, students, and diverse social workers, students, and diverse social classes. Iranian authorities have classes. Iranian authorities have classes. Iranian authorities have unleashed brutal security forces to unleashed brutal security forces to unleashed brutal security forces to crush the protests, including the crush the protests, including the crush the protests, including the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, the IRGC as they're known, with supposed IRGC as they're known, with supposed IRGC as they're known, with supposed orders to show no leniency, leading to orders to show no leniency, leading to orders to show no leniency, leading to threats of executions and rapid trials. threats of executions and rapid trials. threats of executions and rapid trials. Recent reports indicate a slight Recent reports indicate a slight Recent reports indicate a slight subsidance and visible protests over the subsidance and visible protests over the subsidance and visible protests over the last 48 hours in some areas. But if the last 48 hours in some areas. But if the last 48 hours in some areas. But if the reports around the um violent response reports around the um violent response reports around the um violent response are to be believed, then that shouldn't are to be believed, then that shouldn't are to be believed, then that shouldn't surprise anybody as watching a bunch of surprise anybody as watching a bunch of surprise anybody as watching a bunch of people get shot to death in front of you people get shot to death in front of you people get shot to death in front of you has a way of causing you to stay home. has a way of causing you to stay home. has a way of causing you to stay home. But tensions remain extremely heavy with But tensions remain extremely heavy with But tensions remain extremely heavy with regimeled funerals for security regimeled funerals for security regimeled funerals for security personnel and barricades and cities personnel and barricades and cities personnel and barricades and cities signaling ongoing desperation. Now, it signaling ongoing desperation. Now, it signaling ongoing desperation. Now, it is hard to get an accurate picture of is hard to get an accurate picture of is hard to get an accurate picture of exactly what the death toll is given the exactly what the death toll is given the exactly what the death toll is given the information blackout, but the US-based information blackout, but the US-based information blackout, but the US-based human rights activist news agency, HRA, human rights activist news agency, HRA, human rights activist news agency, HRA, uh, a respected monitoring group, uh, a respected monitoring group, uh, a respected monitoring group, reported at least 2571 reported at least 2571 reported at least 2571 deaths so far, including 24,3 deaths so far, including 24,3 deaths so far, including 24,3 protesters, 147 government affiliated protesters, 147 government affiliated protesters, 147 government affiliated individuals, and nine children. This individuals, and nine children. This individuals, and nine children. This marks the highest death toll for unrest marks the highest death toll for unrest marks the highest death toll for unrest in decades, surpassing previous uh in decades, surpassing previous uh in decades, surpassing previous uh episodes like the 2022 Masa Amini episodes like the 2022 Masa Amini episodes like the 2022 Masa Amini protests and evoking the 1979 Islamic protests and evoking the 1979 Islamic protests and evoking the 1979 Islamic Revolution's chaos. Over 18,000 arrests Revolution's chaos. Over 18,000 arrests Revolution's chaos. Over 18,000 arrests have been reported with fears of have been reported with fears of have been reported with fears of imminent executions, including that of imminent executions, including that of imminent executions, including that of 26-year-old protester Efron Sultani, 26-year-old protester Efron Sultani, 26-year-old protester Efron Sultani, potentially happening as early as today potentially happening as early as today potentially happening as early as today by hanging in the public square. Iranian by hanging in the public square. Iranian by hanging in the public square. Iranian officials deny systematic killings, officials deny systematic killings, officials deny systematic killings, blaming external interferences from the blaming external interferences from the blaming external interferences from the US and Israel. President Trump has US and Israel. President Trump has US and Israel. President Trump has vocally supported the protesters while vocally supported the protesters while vocally supported the protesters while escalating rhetoric against Thrron. In a escalating rhetoric against Thrron. In a escalating rhetoric against Thrron. In a January 13th speech, the uh and a true January 13th speech, the uh and a true January 13th speech, the uh and a true social post, he urged Iranians to keep social post, he urged Iranians to keep social post, he urged Iranians to keep protesting, take over your institutions, protesting, take over your institutions, protesting, take over your institutions, help is on its way. without specifying help is on its way. without specifying help is on its way. without specifying though what that aid might be. Now, is though what that aid might be. Now, is though what that aid might be. Now, is that because he doesn't want to give that because he doesn't want to give that because he doesn't want to give away his moves or is it because he away his moves or is it because he away his moves or is it because he doesn't really know what he's going to doesn't really know what he's going to doesn't really know what he's going to do yet. He has said that he's canled all do yet. He has said that he's canled all do yet. He has said that he's canled all meetings with Iranian officials until meetings with Iranian officials until meetings with Iranian officials until the senseless killing stops and has the senseless killing stops and has the senseless killing stops and has warned that abusers will pay a very big warned that abusers will pay a very big warned that abusers will pay a very big price. Trump specifically cautioned price. Trump specifically cautioned price. Trump specifically cautioned against execution, stating that the US against execution, stating that the US against execution, stating that the US would take very strong action if Iran would take very strong action if Iran would take very strong action if Iran proceeds, referencing past military proceeds, referencing past military proceeds, referencing past military strikes. So far, there's been no strikes. So far, there's been no strikes. So far, there's been no confirmed large-scale US military confirmed large-scale US military confirmed large-scale US military deployments to the region, though. Uh, deployments to the region, though. Uh, deployments to the region, though. Uh, and if that's true, that may limit and if that's true, that may limit and if that's true, that may limit immediate options for intervention. immediate options for intervention. immediate options for intervention. However, in an interesting move, However, in an interesting move, However, in an interesting move, precautionary measures include urging precautionary measures include urging precautionary measures include urging some US personnel to leave Qatar's air some US personnel to leave Qatar's air some US personnel to leave Qatar's air base by January 14th evening. Uh, and base by January 14th evening. Uh, and base by January 14th evening. Uh, and people are describing this as a posture people are describing this as a posture people are describing this as a posture change amid fears of Iranian change amid fears of Iranian change amid fears of Iranian retaliation, but they would be retaliation, but they would be retaliation, but they would be retaliating against the US move. So, is retaliating against the US move. So, is retaliating against the US move. So, is the US saying that because they really the US saying that because they really the US saying that because they really do maybe not plan to make a move, but do maybe not plan to make a move, but do maybe not plan to make a move, but are ready to make a move if Iran are ready to make a move if Iran are ready to make a move if Iran continues to escalate? We shall see. continues to escalate? We shall see. continues to escalate? We shall see. Iran has warned Gulf neighbors like Iran has warned Gulf neighbors like Iran has warned Gulf neighbors like Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Qatar that US Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Qatar that US Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Qatar that US bases on their soil would be targeted if bases on their soil would be targeted if bases on their soil would be targeted if Washington strikes, signaling potential Washington strikes, signaling potential Washington strikes, signaling potential escalation. US options discussed include escalation. US options discussed include escalation. US options discussed include cyber attacks to disrupt regime cyber attacks to disrupt regime cyber attacks to disrupt regime communications. But right now, their communications. But right now, their communications. But right now, their regime seems to be doing some damage in regime seems to be doing some damage in regime seems to be doing some damage in terms of jamming the Starlink um terms of jamming the Starlink um terms of jamming the Starlink um terminals that Elon Musk has been terminals that Elon Musk has been terminals that Elon Musk has been sending over. So, uh I know Starlink has sending over. So, uh I know Starlink has sending over. So, uh I know Starlink has said that they're working around the said that they're working around the said that they're working around the clock to try to defeat those measures, clock to try to defeat those measures, clock to try to defeat those measures, but pretty um sad that so far it looks but pretty um sad that so far it looks but pretty um sad that so far it looks like the government has thwarted most of like the government has thwarted most of like the government has thwarted most of those. And I guess they send out a those. And I guess they send out a those. And I guess they send out a signal and so when somebody broadcasts signal and so when somebody broadcasts signal and so when somebody broadcasts something up to a Starlink satellite, something up to a Starlink satellite, something up to a Starlink satellite, they're able to detect that and then they're able to detect that and then they're able to detect that and then make a move on their location. So, um, make a move on their location. So, um, make a move on their location. So, um, that is obviously bad. Um, also talking that is obviously bad. Um, also talking that is obviously bad. Um, also talking about sanctions or targeted strikes like about sanctions or targeted strikes like about sanctions or targeted strikes like drones, missiles, but, um, nobody's drones, missiles, but, um, nobody's drones, missiles, but, um, nobody's talking about a ground invasion. So, talking about a ground invasion. So, talking about a ground invasion. So, National Security Council meetings are National Security Council meetings are National Security Council meetings are ongoing with Trump briefed on strong ongoing with Trump briefed on strong ongoing with Trump briefed on strong options, but countries like Russia and options, but countries like Russia and options, but countries like Russia and China are already condemning US China are already condemning US China are already condemning US interference. Experts warn intervention interference. Experts warn intervention interference. Experts warn intervention could backfire, unifying Iranians could backfire, unifying Iranians could backfire, unifying Iranians against external threats or sparking against external threats or sparking against external threats or sparking wider conflict. And that's the thing, wider conflict. And that's the thing, wider conflict. And that's the thing, man. You've got to remember just like man. You've got to remember just like man. You've got to remember just like the US is divided, it's not like the US is divided, it's not like the US is divided, it's not like everyone in the country is on one side. everyone in the country is on one side. everyone in the country is on one side. There's going to be a certain amount of There's going to be a certain amount of There's going to be a certain amount of is the number tiny? I have no idea. But is the number tiny? I have no idea. But is the number tiny? I have no idea. But there's going to be a certain number of there's going to be a certain number of there's going to be a certain number of people that are apparently willing to people that are apparently willing to people that are apparently willing to walk around with guns and shoot other walk around with guns and shoot other walk around with guns and shoot other people to death. So, not everybody is on people to death. So, not everybody is on people to death. So, not everybody is on the same page. The situation remains the same page. The situation remains the same page. The situation remains volatile with potential for executions, volatile with potential for executions, volatile with potential for executions, renewed protests, or even possibly US renewed protests, or even possibly US renewed protests, or even possibly US action. International responses include action. International responses include action. International responses include EU diplomat bans on Iran and calls for EU diplomat bans on Iran and calls for EU diplomat bans on Iran and calls for restraint. Updates expected as restraint. Updates expected as restraint. Updates expected as communications hopefully begin to get communications hopefully begin to get communications hopefully begin to get restored, but we'll see. This one is restored, but we'll see. This one is restored, but we'll see. This one is wild. And if you really want to get into wild. And if you really want to get into wild. And if you really want to get into the underbelly of how it's being the underbelly of how it's being the underbelly of how it's being metabolized here in the US, of course, metabolized here in the US, of course, metabolized here in the US, of course, this brings up all the stuff around is this brings up all the stuff around is this brings up all the stuff around is this just uh Israel trying to run their this just uh Israel trying to run their this just uh Israel trying to run their normal playbook and they're fermenting normal playbook and they're fermenting normal playbook and they're fermenting disscent where there shouldn't be. I disscent where there shouldn't be. I disscent where there shouldn't be. I know Candace had comments along those know Candace had comments along those know Candace had comments along those lines. There's plenty of people pointing lines. There's plenty of people pointing lines. There's plenty of people pointing out that there weren't people protesting out that there weren't people protesting out that there weren't people protesting at Harvard as Iranians are being at Harvard as Iranians are being at Harvard as Iranians are being slaughtered uh to match the energy for slaughtered uh to match the energy for slaughtered uh to match the energy for what was going on in Gaza. And so what was going on in Gaza. And so what was going on in Gaza. And so America is clearly not on the same page America is clearly not on the same page America is clearly not on the same page in terms of what the right response is in terms of what the right response is in terms of what the right response is to what's going on in Iran. Uh but I for to what's going on in Iran. Uh but I for to what's going on in Iran. Uh but I for one long to see people the world over one long to see people the world over one long to see people the world over breathe free. So hopefully they get breathe free. So hopefully they get breathe free. So hopefully they get their shot. their shot. their shot. Um Turkey actually just released a Um Turkey actually just released a Um Turkey actually just released a statement also condemning um US and statement also condemning um US and statement also condemning um US and Israel to stay out of Iran and calls for Israel to stay out of Iran and calls for Israel to stay out of Iran and calls for uh Iran to kind of fix their own uh Iran to kind of fix their own uh Iran to kind of fix their own problems. problems. problems. >> We do not wish to see any chaos in our >> We do not wish to see any chaos in our >> We do not wish to see any chaos in our neighbor Iran. We do not deny that there neighbor Iran. We do not deny that there neighbor Iran. We do not deny that there are certain problems in Iranian society are certain problems in Iranian society are certain problems in Iranian society and the state. But these problems must and the state. But these problems must and the state. But these problems must be resolved through the inherent be resolved through the inherent be resolved through the inherent dynamics and national will of Iran dynamics and national will of Iran dynamics and national will of Iran itself. We foresee that external itself. We foresee that external itself. We foresee that external interventions will lead to worse interventions will lead to worse interventions will lead to worse outcomes and that interventions, outcomes and that interventions, outcomes and that interventions, particularly those instigated by Israel particularly those instigated by Israel particularly those instigated by Israel to achieve certain goals, will cause to achieve certain goals, will cause to achieve certain goals, will cause even greater difficulties. We emphasize even greater difficulties. We emphasize even greater difficulties. We emphasize the importance of stability in Iran to the importance of stability in Iran to the importance of stability in Iran to prevent further crisis and to avoid prevent further crisis and to avoid prevent further crisis and to avoid dragging the region into more trouble. dragging the region into more trouble. dragging the region into more trouble. Looking at the statements of Israeli Looking at the statements of Israeli Looking at the statements of Israeli officials, especially those directed at officials, especially those directed at officials, especially those directed at Iran, we see that they are trying to Iran, we see that they are trying to Iran, we see that they are trying to adopt a reckless stance that will create adopt a reckless stance that will create adopt a reckless stance that will create greater problems throughout the region, greater problems throughout the region, greater problems throughout the region, which is absolutely unacceptable. >> Yeah. I mean, listen, it is um having >> Yeah. I mean, listen, it is um having another country interfere in your another country interfere in your another country interfere in your operations. Like, imagine China rolls up operations. Like, imagine China rolls up operations. Like, imagine China rolls up and is like, I don't like what I see and is like, I don't like what I see and is like, I don't like what I see happening in Minnesota. This is crazy. happening in Minnesota. This is crazy. happening in Minnesota. This is crazy. We got to do something about this. We got to do something about this. We got to do something about this. um we would be like what is happening? um we would be like what is happening? um we would be like what is happening? We would have an absolute stroke. So We would have an absolute stroke. So We would have an absolute stroke. So yeah, I get why that is going to be the yeah, I get why that is going to be the yeah, I get why that is going to be the official stance of people who don't want official stance of people who don't want official stance of people who don't want American intervention in their country. American intervention in their country. American intervention in their country. And at the same time, uh man, when you And at the same time, uh man, when you And at the same time, uh man, when you see a regime like I mean, let's even go see a regime like I mean, let's even go see a regime like I mean, let's even go back to Rwanda. when you see whatever a back to Rwanda. when you see whatever a back to Rwanda. when you see whatever a million people being hacked to death in million people being hacked to death in million people being hacked to death in whatever terrifyingly short period of whatever terrifyingly short period of whatever terrifyingly short period of time with machetes, it's like at some time with machetes, it's like at some time with machetes, it's like at some point like not doing something feels far point like not doing something feels far point like not doing something feels far more grotesque than doing something. more grotesque than doing something. more grotesque than doing something. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, I do think countries should be very >> So, I do think countries should be very >> So, I do think countries should be very slow to intervene in the um internal slow to intervene in the um internal slow to intervene in the um internal workings of another country. But at the workings of another country. But at the workings of another country. But at the same time, it is just a universal fact same time, it is just a universal fact same time, it is just a universal fact of the human condition that governments of the human condition that governments of the human condition that governments tend towards tyranny. They will kill tend towards tyranny. They will kill tend towards tyranny. They will kill their people to maintain power. Uh and their people to maintain power. Uh and their people to maintain power. Uh and there have been plenty of governments there have been plenty of governments there have been plenty of governments that have proven there is no number of that have proven there is no number of that have proven there is no number of people that they're not prepared to kill people that they're not prepared to kill people that they're not prepared to kill uh to maintain stability in China. I'm uh to maintain stability in China. I'm uh to maintain stability in China. I'm looking at you like you you don't have looking at you like you you don't have looking at you like you you don't have to go back more than the 1970s to find to go back more than the 1970s to find to go back more than the 1970s to find China just mass killing their populace China just mass killing their populace China just mass killing their populace >> uh to maintain control. It it is crazy. >> uh to maintain control. It it is crazy. >> uh to maintain control. It it is crazy. >> Same with Russia. You don't have to go >> Same with Russia. You don't have to go >> Same with Russia. You don't have to go back very far to see Stalin doing the back very far to see Stalin doing the back very far to see Stalin doing the same thing. Just mass murder to keep same thing. Just mass murder to keep same thing. Just mass murder to keep everybody under control. And so the everybody under control. And so the everybody under control. And so the question becomes um question becomes um question becomes um that there's not a non-human actor in that there's not a non-human actor in that there's not a non-human actor in this. this. this. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> that's humans that do that. So it is um >> that's humans that do that. So it is um >> that's humans that do that. So it is um man it is a wild artifact of the way man it is a wild artifact of the way man it is a wild artifact of the way that our brains work that we end up that our brains work that we end up that our brains work that we end up doing that. But we do overall doing that. But we do overall doing that. But we do overall >> do you agree with Turkey in this >> do you agree with Turkey in this >> do you agree with Turkey in this scenario that Israel, US, everybody scenario that Israel, US, everybody scenario that Israel, US, everybody should stay out of it and let Iran kind should stay out of it and let Iran kind should stay out of it and let Iran kind of figure it out? because I my brain is of figure it out? because I my brain is of figure it out? because I my brain is divided between what do I think is divided between what do I think is divided between what do I think is morally right and then when you're morally right and then when you're morally right and then when you're living in the world of practicality and living in the world of practicality and living in the world of practicality and you have to have something that you can you have to have something that you can you have to have something that you can write down and say uh this is when you write down and say uh this is when you write down and say uh this is when you move in and this is when you don't. move in and this is when you don't. move in and this is when you don't. >> I'm >> I'm >> I'm I think it is very important for me to I think it is very important for me to I think it is very important for me to give you two different answers. Both are give you two different answers. Both are give you two different answers. Both are true true true >> morally. [ __ ] that kid. [ __ ] Iran uh as >> morally. [ __ ] that kid. [ __ ] Iran uh as >> morally. [ __ ] that kid. [ __ ] Iran uh as government and power to the people and a government and power to the people and a government and power to the people and a thousand% a theocratic regime that kills thousand% a theocratic regime that kills thousand% a theocratic regime that kills its own people can eat an entire bag of its own people can eat an entire bag of its own people can eat an entire bag of dicks. dicks. dicks. Now having said that, you can't run Now having said that, you can't run Now having said that, you can't run around the world acting like that. So around the world acting like that. So around the world acting like that. So that's Tom Billu's personal emotional that's Tom Billu's personal emotional that's Tom Billu's personal emotional response. But the reality is that as a response. But the reality is that as a response. But the reality is that as a country, you have to say, "Okay, well, I country, you have to say, "Okay, well, I country, you have to say, "Okay, well, I wouldn't want somebody interfering with wouldn't want somebody interfering with wouldn't want somebody interfering with me." Um, I would go to great lengths to me." Um, I would go to great lengths to me." Um, I would go to great lengths to stop them even trying to do things from stop them even trying to do things from stop them even trying to do things from a cyber perspective like manipulate the a cyber perspective like manipulate the a cyber perspective like manipulate the populace, right? But I know that we're populace, right? But I know that we're populace, right? But I know that we're trying to do that to other people trying to do that to other people trying to do that to other people constantly. Um, that we may not have all constantly. Um, that we may not have all constantly. Um, that we may not have all the information and so us, you know, the information and so us, you know, the information and so us, you know, rolling in and dropping bombs is like, rolling in and dropping bombs is like, rolling in and dropping bombs is like, "Bro, you can't just run around doing "Bro, you can't just run around doing "Bro, you can't just run around doing that." Mhm. that." Mhm. that." Mhm. >> Uh so I would expect there to be >> Uh so I would expect there to be >> Uh so I would expect there to be consequences from other countries who consequences from other countries who consequences from other countries who are like, "Yeah, you I don't want you are like, "Yeah, you I don't want you are like, "Yeah, you I don't want you coming in here and bullying." Take coming in here and bullying." Take coming in here and bullying." Take China, man. China is China has this is China, man. China is China has this is China, man. China is China has this is my interpretation of what I've read. my interpretation of what I've read. my interpretation of what I've read. >> But from where I'm sitting, China has a >> But from where I'm sitting, China has a >> But from where I'm sitting, China has a philosophy, a national constitution, if philosophy, a national constitution, if philosophy, a national constitution, if you will, like internal human you will, like internal human you will, like internal human constitution, not written document, constitution, not written document, constitution, not written document, >> that stability is worth a tremendous >> that stability is worth a tremendous >> that stability is worth a tremendous price. that stability is price. that stability is price. that stability is incredibly important and instability is incredibly important and instability is incredibly important and instability is a far bigger problem than mass murder. a far bigger problem than mass murder. a far bigger problem than mass murder. So that seems to that's how they behave. So that seems to that's how they behave. So that seems to that's how they behave. So when you've got a country like that, So when you've got a country like that, So when you've got a country like that, then it's like, okay, well clearly there then it's like, okay, well clearly there then it's like, okay, well clearly there is a large number of humanity that is a large number of humanity that is a large number of humanity that thinks I'm nuts to want uh freedom and thinks I'm nuts to want uh freedom and thinks I'm nuts to want uh freedom and freedom is going to be messy and freedom freedom is going to be messy and freedom freedom is going to be messy and freedom is going to cause problems and freedom is going to cause problems and freedom is going to cause problems and freedom is going to get a lot of people killed is going to get a lot of people killed is going to get a lot of people killed and I would much rather that and be free and I would much rather that and be free and I would much rather that and be free and control my life and not be subjected and control my life and not be subjected and control my life and not be subjected to the giant bureaucracy of death. Um, to the giant bureaucracy of death. Um, to the giant bureaucracy of death. Um, so it's like it's one of those from my so it's like it's one of those from my so it's like it's one of those from my position I'm obviously right, position I'm obviously right, position I'm obviously right, but not everybody's going to see it that but not everybody's going to see it that but not everybody's going to see it that way. And so given that I know if the US way. And so given that I know if the US way. And so given that I know if the US were to intervene that it will cause were to intervene that it will cause were to intervene that it will cause some people to get very angry that I some people to get very angry that I some people to get very angry that I create some sort of longtail risk that I create some sort of longtail risk that I create some sort of longtail risk that I may not be able to fully anticipate. And may not be able to fully anticipate. And may not be able to fully anticipate. And so uh, you've got to be careful. And so uh, you've got to be careful. And so uh, you've got to be careful. And this is where people need to have this is where people need to have this is where people need to have morality that becomes policy where they morality that becomes policy where they morality that becomes policy where they say this is what we tolerate and this is say this is what we tolerate and this is say this is what we tolerate and this is what we don't. I mean, it's like even what we don't. I mean, it's like even what we don't. I mean, it's like even just think about the fact that and I just think about the fact that and I just think about the fact that and I think rightfully so, but Trump was like, think rightfully so, but Trump was like, think rightfully so, but Trump was like, "There's a certain number of people that "There's a certain number of people that "There's a certain number of people that you can kill and I won't do anything." you can kill and I won't do anything." you can kill and I won't do anything." That's wild. Like to actually say 400's That's wild. Like to actually say 400's That's wild. Like to actually say 400's fine, 401 is a problem, but that's what fine, 401 is a problem, but that's what fine, 401 is a problem, but that's what policy is. At some point, you have to policy is. At some point, you have to policy is. At some point, you have to say, "Okay, we've got a line. If you're say, "Okay, we've got a line. If you're say, "Okay, we've got a line. If you're on that side of the line, we're not on that side of the line, we're not on that side of the line, we're not going to do [ __ ] You step over to this going to do [ __ ] You step over to this going to do [ __ ] You step over to this side of the line, now we start killing side of the line, now we start killing side of the line, now we start killing people." And it's weird, but nonetheless people." And it's weird, but nonetheless people." And it's weird, but nonetheless true. true. true. Uh well, and speaking of foreign Uh well, and speaking of foreign Uh well, and speaking of foreign interventions, a bipartisan bill has interventions, a bipartisan bill has interventions, a bipartisan bill has just been announced that would block just been announced that would block just been announced that would block Donald Trump from taking over Greenland. Donald Trump from taking over Greenland. Donald Trump from taking over Greenland. Um the you Oh, snap. I'm not sharing it Um the you Oh, snap. I'm not sharing it Um the you Oh, snap. I'm not sharing it on the right screen. Uh my bad, G. Give on the right screen. Uh my bad, G. Give on the right screen. Uh my bad, G. Give me 14 seconds. The bill is uh made by a me 14 seconds. The bill is uh made by a me 14 seconds. The bill is uh made by a Republican and Democratic congresswoman. Republican and Democratic congresswoman. Republican and Democratic congresswoman. Um go figure. Now we're bipartisan. and Um go figure. Now we're bipartisan. and Um go figure. Now we're bipartisan. and it would bar defense or state funds from it would bar defense or state funds from it would bar defense or state funds from blockade, occupy, annex, or any blockade, occupy, annex, or any blockade, occupy, annex, or any otherwise assert control over the otherwise assert control over the otherwise assert control over the sovereign territory of a NATO member. sovereign territory of a NATO member. sovereign territory of a NATO member. Um, what's your initial response on Um, what's your initial response on Um, what's your initial response on this? this? this? >> Well, so first of all, anything where >> Well, so first of all, anything where >> Well, so first of all, anything where you're going to get bipartisan support you're going to get bipartisan support you're going to get bipartisan support of something, that tells you something. of something, that tells you something. of something, that tells you something. So, that I like to see. I like to see So, that I like to see. I like to see So, that I like to see. I like to see both sides getting together and saying, both sides getting together and saying, both sides getting together and saying, "This is important enough that we want "This is important enough that we want "This is important enough that we want to make sure that our voices are heard. to make sure that our voices are heard. to make sure that our voices are heard. This is clearly what we want to enact." This is clearly what we want to enact." This is clearly what we want to enact." Yeah, great. Go for it. Also, because I Yeah, great. Go for it. Also, because I Yeah, great. Go for it. Also, because I hate his smash and grab diplomacy, um I hate his smash and grab diplomacy, um I hate his smash and grab diplomacy, um I think it is absurd that he's just like, think it is absurd that he's just like, think it is absurd that he's just like, "We're just going to take it." So, if he "We're just going to take it." So, if he "We're just going to take it." So, if he were to draw a red line and say, "Hey, were to draw a red line and say, "Hey, were to draw a red line and say, "Hey, listen. Uh this is critical to our listen. Uh this is critical to our listen. Uh this is critical to our national um sovereignty. Here are the national um sovereignty. Here are the national um sovereignty. Here are the things that we absolutely cannot have things that we absolutely cannot have things that we absolutely cannot have you do in terms of um alliances with you do in terms of um alliances with you do in terms of um alliances with Russia or China. Uh we also want to set Russia or China. Uh we also want to set Russia or China. Uh we also want to set up, you know, monitoring stations in the up, you know, monitoring stations in the up, you know, monitoring stations in the um strait that appears to be opening up um strait that appears to be opening up um strait that appears to be opening up from ice melting." all this stuff. from ice melting." all this stuff. from ice melting." all this stuff. Plenty of things that he could do to um Plenty of things that he could do to um Plenty of things that he could do to um allow them their dignity, quite frankly, allow them their dignity, quite frankly, allow them their dignity, quite frankly, their national sovereignty, and just their national sovereignty, and just their national sovereignty, and just say, "But these things are important say, "But these things are important say, "But these things are important enough to protect our nation, and we're enough to protect our nation, and we're enough to protect our nation, and we're strong enough to enforce it, and so this strong enough to enforce it, and so this strong enough to enforce it, and so this is what we're going to do." I would be is what we're going to do." I would be is what we're going to do." I would be back channeling that to Denmark. I would back channeling that to Denmark. I would back channeling that to Denmark. I would be finding a way to get them on board. be finding a way to get them on board. be finding a way to get them on board. And so, um, that to me is how you play And so, um, that to me is how you play And so, um, that to me is how you play this. That's why you have diplomacy. And this. That's why you have diplomacy. And this. That's why you have diplomacy. And so the more Trump becomes um arrogant so the more Trump becomes um arrogant so the more Trump becomes um arrogant and hyperaggressive, the more people are and hyperaggressive, the more people are and hyperaggressive, the more people are going to resist him even on things that going to resist him even on things that going to resist him even on things that might make sense. I'm not saying might make sense. I'm not saying might make sense. I'm not saying Greenland taking Greenland makes sense, Greenland taking Greenland makes sense, Greenland taking Greenland makes sense, but I'm saying there will be things that but I'm saying there will be things that but I'm saying there will be things that I see people resist him on all the time I see people resist him on all the time I see people resist him on all the time that are like, "Wait, why would you that are like, "Wait, why would you that are like, "Wait, why would you resist like finding fraud when people resist like finding fraud when people resist like finding fraud when people resisted Doge?" I was I rate that is resisted Doge?" I was I rate that is resisted Doge?" I was I rate that is absurd to me. absurd to me. absurd to me. >> Uh because it's good for them. >> Uh because it's good for them. >> Uh because it's good for them. >> But people are emotional creatures. They >> But people are emotional creatures. They >> But people are emotional creatures. They are not logical creatures. And so they are not logical creatures. And so they are not logical creatures. And so they will do things just to spite you. And so will do things just to spite you. And so will do things just to spite you. And so he's just pissing people off and they're he's just pissing people off and they're he's just pissing people off and they're going to now push back against him, push going to now push back against him, push going to now push back against him, push back against the US out of emotion. So back against the US out of emotion. So back against the US out of emotion. So people will start doing things that are people will start doing things that are people will start doing things that are bad for their own country just to tell bad for their own country just to tell bad for their own country just to tell him to pound sand. So that all seems him to pound sand. So that all seems him to pound sand. So that all seems stupid to me. So anyway, we'll see. I stupid to me. So anyway, we'll see. I stupid to me. So anyway, we'll see. I haven't read the details of the bill. It haven't read the details of the bill. It haven't read the details of the bill. It could be absolutely moronic. But um could be absolutely moronic. But um could be absolutely moronic. But um there is a reason that we have three there is a reason that we have three there is a reason that we have three branches of government. I am here for branches of government. I am here for branches of government. I am here for the checks against tyranny. Uh so yes, I the checks against tyranny. Uh so yes, I the checks against tyranny. Uh so yes, I want three strong, robust, independent want three strong, robust, independent want three strong, robust, independent branches of government that keep each branches of government that keep each branches of government that keep each other in rock paper scissors style in other in rock paper scissors style in other in rock paper scissors style in [ __ ] check. Nice. So putting [ __ ] check. Nice. So putting [ __ ] check. Nice. So putting everything on the table, we have this everything on the table, we have this everything on the table, we have this bipartisan bill from the Senate that was bipartisan bill from the Senate that was bipartisan bill from the Senate that was just uh uh put out there. Um we have just uh uh put out there. Um we have just uh uh put out there. Um we have reports that yesterday Greenland prime reports that yesterday Greenland prime reports that yesterday Greenland prime minister says that Greenland chooses minister says that Greenland chooses minister says that Greenland chooses Denmark over the US. They had a joint Denmark over the US. They had a joint Denmark over the US. They had a joint statement. I couldn't find a good statement. I couldn't find a good statement. I couldn't find a good translation, so I just did a screenshot translation, so I just did a screenshot translation, so I just did a screenshot of that. And we also have last week when of that. And we also have last week when of that. And we also have last week when some of the um head of the EU officials some of the um head of the EU officials some of the um head of the EU officials um Germany uh France, UK were all um Germany uh France, UK were all um Germany uh France, UK were all strongly against the acquisition of strongly against the acquisition of strongly against the acquisition of Greenland from the US uh by the US. Yes. Greenland from the US uh by the US. Yes. Greenland from the US uh by the US. Yes. >> So it seems like Trump is getting hit on >> So it seems like Trump is getting hit on >> So it seems like Trump is getting hit on all sides. Greenland themselves said no. all sides. Greenland themselves said no. all sides. Greenland themselves said no. We have a Senate bill and the EU was We have a Senate bill and the EU was We have a Senate bill and the EU was saying if you do that we have to look at saying if you do that we have to look at saying if you do that we have to look at this as a military action and not just this as a military action and not just this as a military action and not just as US doing us. At this point, it seems as US doing us. At this point, it seems as US doing us. At this point, it seems like Trump should be uh have his hands like Trump should be uh have his hands like Trump should be uh have his hands tied, but I mean, as the uh secret tied, but I mean, as the uh secret tied, but I mean, as the uh secret midnight Venezuela action means, he can midnight Venezuela action means, he can midnight Venezuela action means, he can always come up with another way. But it always come up with another way. But it always come up with another way. But it seems like he should probably let this seems like he should probably let this seems like he should probably let this go at least. go at least. go at least. >> I My advice to him would be immediately >> I My advice to him would be immediately >> I My advice to him would be immediately change course, get the things you change course, get the things you change course, get the things you actually need from Greenland, which is actually need from Greenland, which is actually need from Greenland, which is not ownership. You um his argumentation not ownership. You um his argumentation not ownership. You um his argumentation that you don't fight for a lease, you that you don't fight for a lease, you that you don't fight for a lease, you fight for ownership is dumb. you fight fight for ownership is dumb. you fight fight for ownership is dumb. you fight for national interests. So if your for national interests. So if your for national interests. So if your national interests require you to have a national interests require you to have a national interests require you to have a relationship with Greenland to uh make relationship with Greenland to uh make relationship with Greenland to uh make sure that you get the things that you sure that you get the things that you sure that you get the things that you need, whether you own it or not need, whether you own it or not need, whether you own it or not shouldn't matter. And so we've been shouldn't matter. And so we've been shouldn't matter. And so we've been trying to get a hold of Greenland for trying to get a hold of Greenland for trying to get a hold of Greenland for whatever 150 years or something, but whatever 150 years or something, but whatever 150 years or something, but we've done just fine without it. If you we've done just fine without it. If you we've done just fine without it. If you have reason to believe that Russia and have reason to believe that Russia and have reason to believe that Russia and China are, as the Brits would say, China are, as the Brits would say, China are, as the Brits would say, taking the piss, then it's like, well, taking the piss, then it's like, well, taking the piss, then it's like, well, draw red lines and say, okay, we're not draw red lines and say, okay, we're not draw red lines and say, okay, we're not going to allow this. And then it like going to allow this. And then it like going to allow this. And then it like then at least you're responding to then at least you're responding to then at least you're responding to something specific and you can get something specific and you can get something specific and you can get people on your side as to why you cannot people on your side as to why you cannot people on your side as to why you cannot tolerate that. Uh but right now it just tolerate that. Uh but right now it just tolerate that. Uh but right now it just literally seems like somebody who thinks literally seems like somebody who thinks literally seems like somebody who thinks that they can get away with it and so that they can get away with it and so that they can get away with it and so they're going to do it because they can, they're going to do it because they can, they're going to do it because they can, not because they actually need to or not because they actually need to or not because they actually need to or because they have to. So I'm not even because they have to. So I'm not even because they have to. So I'm not even saying that it wouldn't be wildly to our saying that it wouldn't be wildly to our saying that it wouldn't be wildly to our advantage to get Greenland. I'm sure it advantage to get Greenland. I'm sure it advantage to get Greenland. I'm sure it would be. Uh but again, you've got to would be. Uh but again, you've got to would be. Uh but again, you've got to use seduction. and we're just at a point use seduction. and we're just at a point use seduction. and we're just at a point now where we're completely abandoning now where we're completely abandoning now where we're completely abandoning that. Um, so yes, I hope that the check that. Um, so yes, I hope that the check that. Um, so yes, I hope that the check comes internally. I hope that America comes internally. I hope that America comes internally. I hope that America stops itself stops itself stops itself uh versus us needing to have our hands uh versus us needing to have our hands uh versus us needing to have our hands slapped by the world at large. slapped by the world at large. slapped by the world at large. >> We'll see. We'll keep uh we'll keep >> We'll see. We'll keep uh we'll keep >> We'll see. We'll keep uh we'll keep monitoring it, but it it seems like he monitoring it, but it it seems like he monitoring it, but it it seems like he should let that go. should let that go. should let that go. >> Yeah. And listen, I've got a deep dive >> Yeah. And listen, I've got a deep dive >> Yeah. And listen, I've got a deep dive coming out on this on Tuesday, so make coming out on this on Tuesday, so make coming out on this on Tuesday, so make sure you guys take a look at that. I've sure you guys take a look at that. I've sure you guys take a look at that. I've spent a lot of time thinking about what spent a lot of time thinking about what spent a lot of time thinking about what what is going on globally that has led what is going on globally that has led what is going on globally that has led America to act the way that it's acting. America to act the way that it's acting. America to act the way that it's acting. Uh you've heard some of the ideas today Uh you've heard some of the ideas today Uh you've heard some of the ideas today at the beginning of the show. Um but at the beginning of the show. Um but at the beginning of the show. Um but yeah, that is my most concise yeah, that is my most concise yeah, that is my most concise crystallized view of what's happening crystallized view of what's happening crystallized view of what's happening right now. Um why what America first right now. Um why what America first right now. Um why what America first actually means and how Trump is running actually means and how Trump is running actually means and how Trump is running that strategy and what the potential that strategy and what the potential that strategy and what the potential consequences are. So uh check that one consequences are. So uh check that one consequences are. So uh check that one out. Do you think Trump is uh running in out. Do you think Trump is uh running in out. Do you think Trump is uh running in America first? America first? America first? >> Definitively. >> Definitively. >> Definitively. >> Got it. >> Got it. >> Got it. >> Definitively. Yeah. This is America >> Definitively. Yeah. This is America >> Definitively. Yeah. This is America first. Once you take it as um America's first. Once you take it as um America's first. Once you take it as um America's going to get what they want and it going to get what they want and it going to get what they want and it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks, doesn't matter what anybody else thinks, doesn't matter what anybody else thinks, then it's Yeah. Clearly. then it's Yeah. Clearly. then it's Yeah. Clearly. >> Um okay, everybody strap in. It's story >> Um okay, everybody strap in. It's story >> Um okay, everybody strap in. It's story time because Bill Clinton and Hillary time because Bill Clinton and Hillary time because Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton uh skipped their Epstein Clinton uh skipped their Epstein Clinton uh skipped their Epstein congressional hearing. Um and this was congressional hearing. Um and this was congressional hearing. Um and this was the letter that they sent. Chairman the letter that they sent. Chairman the letter that they sent. Chairman Comr, we want to take a moment given Comr, we want to take a moment given Comr, we want to take a moment given everything to you, given everything to everything to you, given everything to everything to you, given everything to address you directly. This past year has address you directly. This past year has address you directly. This past year has seen our government engage in seen our government engage in seen our government engage in unprecedented acts, including against unprecedented acts, including against unprecedented acts, including against our own citizens. People have been our own citizens. People have been our own citizens. People have been seized by mass federal agents from their seized by mass federal agents from their seized by mass federal agents from their homes, their workplaces, and the streets homes, their workplaces, and the streets homes, their workplaces, and the streets of their communities. Students and of their communities. Students and of their communities. Students and scientists with visas permitting them to scientists with visas permitting them to scientists with visas permitting them to study and work here have been deported study and work here have been deported study and work here have been deported without due process. The people who laid without due process. The people who laid without due process. The people who laid siege to the US capital have been siege to the US capital have been siege to the US capital have been pardoned and called heroes. Agencies pardoned and called heroes. Agencies pardoned and called heroes. Agencies vital to the country's national security vital to the country's national security vital to the country's national security has been dismantled. Universities, media has been dismantled. Universities, media has been dismantled. Universities, media companies, and law firms have been companies, and law firms have been companies, and law firms have been subjected to threats to threats to their subjected to threats to threats to their subjected to threats to threats to their funding, access, and licensing unless funding, access, and licensing unless funding, access, and licensing unless they made concessions and surrendered they made concessions and surrendered they made concessions and surrendered their right to constitutionally protect their right to constitutionally protect their right to constitutionally protect free speech. American troops have been free speech. American troops have been free speech. American troops have been deployed on the streets of our towns and deployed on the streets of our towns and deployed on the streets of our towns and cities. The Justice Department has been cities. The Justice Department has been cities. The Justice Department has been issued as a weapon at the direction of issued as a weapon at the direction of issued as a weapon at the direction of the president to pursue political the president to pursue political the president to pursue political opponents and most recently in Syrian, opponents and most recently in Syrian, opponents and most recently in Syrian, an ICE agent killed an unarmed mother an ICE agent killed an unarmed mother an ICE agent killed an unarmed mother only days ago. Every person has to only days ago. Every person has to only days ago. Every person has to decide when they have seen or had enough decide when they have seen or had enough decide when they have seen or had enough and are ready to fight for this country, and are ready to fight for this country, and are ready to fight for this country, its principles, and its people no matter its principles, and its people no matter its principles, and its people no matter the consequences. For us, now is that the consequences. For us, now is that the consequences. For us, now is that time. We are lucky by virtue of the time. We are lucky by virtue of the time. We are lucky by virtue of the positions we held and the protections positions we held and the protections positions we held and the protections afforded by them. But we are not blind. afforded by them. But we are not blind. afforded by them. But we are not blind. Every day we see the country we have Every day we see the country we have Every day we see the country we have dictated dedicated our lives to dictated dedicated our lives to dictated dedicated our lives to improving. Take step after step after improving. Take step after step after improving. Take step after step after step backwards. As chairman of this step backwards. As chairman of this step backwards. As chairman of this powerful congressional committee and you powerful congressional committee and you powerful congressional committee and you have immense power to target anyone in have immense power to target anyone in have immense power to target anyone in the subject them to closed door the subject them to closed door the subject them to closed door interrogations and more. The decisions interrogations and more. The decisions interrogations and more. The decisions you have made and the priorities you you have made and the priorities you you have made and the priorities you have set as a chairman regarding the have set as a chairman regarding the have set as a chairman regarding the Epstein continued Epstein continued Epstein continued investigations has prevented progress in investigations has prevented progress in investigations has prevented progress in discovering the facts about the discovering the facts about the discovering the facts about the government's role. The facts speak for government's role. The facts speak for government's role. The facts speak for themselves. You subpoenaed eight people themselves. You subpoenaed eight people themselves. You subpoenaed eight people in addition to us. You demissed seven of in addition to us. You demissed seven of in addition to us. You demissed seven of those eight without any of them saying a those eight without any of them saying a those eight without any of them saying a single word to you. You made no attempt single word to you. You made no attempt single word to you. You made no attempt to force them to appear. In fact, since to force them to appear. In fact, since to force them to appear. In fact, since you started your investigation last you started your investigation last you started your investigation last year, you have interviewed a total of year, you have interviewed a total of year, you have interviewed a total of two people. Two, a legal analysis two people. Two, a legal analysis two people. Two, a legal analysis prepped by two law firms and provided to prepped by two law firms and provided to prepped by two law firms and provided to you yesterday makes clear your subpoenas you yesterday makes clear your subpoenas you yesterday makes clear your subpoenas are legally invalid. You claim your are legally invalid. You claim your are legally invalid. You claim your subpoenas are invalid. Valid. Invalid. subpoenas are invalid. Valid. Invalid. subpoenas are invalid. Valid. Invalid. >> Invalid. Invalid. >> Invalid. Invalid. >> Invalid. Invalid. >> Invalid when they are used against us. >> Invalid when they are used against us. >> Invalid when they are used against us. were were were >> were silent when the city president took >> were silent when the city president took >> were silent when the city president took the same position as a former president the same position as a former president the same position as a former president bearing barely more than three years bearing barely more than three years bearing barely more than three years ago. We call on you to release that ago. We call on you to release that ago. We call on you to release that analysis to the public to allow them to analysis to the public to allow them to analysis to the public to allow them to see how this is yet another example of see how this is yet another example of see how this is yet another example of the casual disregard of the law of the the casual disregard of the law of the the casual disregard of the law of the land. All the while you have done land. All the while you have done land. All the while you have done nothing with your oversight committee to nothing with your oversight committee to nothing with your oversight committee to force the department of justice to force the department of justice to force the department of justice to follow the law and release all of its follow the law and release all of its follow the law and release all of its epine files including any material epine files including any material epine files including any material regarding us as we have publicly called regarding us as we have publicly called regarding us as we have publicly called for over the last year in the house. for over the last year in the house. for over the last year in the house. extending healthcare for Americans in extending healthcare for Americans in extending healthcare for Americans in any state succeeded only because enough any state succeeded only because enough any state succeeded only because enough Republicans joined with Democrats. The Republicans joined with Democrats. The Republicans joined with Democrats. The fact that the public and we are seeing fact that the public and we are seeing fact that the public and we are seeing any of the Department of Justice epsy any of the Department of Justice epsy any of the Department of Justice epsy files only because four Republicans out files only because four Republicans out files only because four Republicans out of 220 joined every Democrat to release of 220 joined every Democrat to release of 220 joined every Democrat to release the to reach the minimum number of the to reach the minimum number of the to reach the minimum number of members to force a vote. You were not members to force a vote. You were not members to force a vote. You were not one of those four. Even now, despite the one of those four. Even now, despite the one of those four. Even now, despite the Department of Justice failure to follow Department of Justice failure to follow Department of Justice failure to follow the law the Congress passed, you have the law the Congress passed, you have the law the Congress passed, you have chosen not to consider subpoening the chosen not to consider subpoening the chosen not to consider subpoening the sitting attorney general to follow the sitting attorney general to follow the sitting attorney general to follow the law. Despite everything that needs to be law. Despite everything that needs to be law. Despite everything that needs to be done to help our country, you are on the done to help our country, you are on the done to help our country, you are on the cusp of bringing Congress to a halt to cusp of bringing Congress to a halt to cusp of bringing Congress to a halt to pursue a rarely used process literally pursue a rarely used process literally pursue a rarely used process literally designed to result in our imprisonment. designed to result in our imprisonment. designed to result in our imprisonment. This is not the this is not the way out This is not the this is not the way out This is not the this is not the way out of America's ills, and we were of America's ills, and we were of America's ills, and we were forcefully defend ourselves. Indeed, forcefully defend ourselves. Indeed, forcefully defend ourselves. Indeed, bringing the Republicans's cruel agenda bringing the Republicans's cruel agenda bringing the Republicans's cruel agenda to a standstill while you work harder to to a standstill while you work harder to to a standstill while you work harder to pass a contempt charge against us than pass a contempt charge against us than pass a contempt charge against us than you have done to on your investigation you have done to on your investigation you have done to on your investigation this past year would be our contribution this past year would be our contribution this past year would be our contribution to fighting the madness. We have tried to fighting the madness. We have tried to fighting the madness. We have tried to give you the little information we to give you the little information we to give you the little information we have. We done so because Mr. MC's crimes have. We done so because Mr. MC's crimes have. We done so because Mr. MC's crimes were horrific. If the government didn't were horrific. If the government didn't were horrific. If the government didn't do all it could to investigate and do all it could to investigate and do all it could to investigate and prosecute these crimes for whatever for prosecute these crimes for whatever for prosecute these crimes for whatever for whatever reason, that should be the whatever reason, that should be the whatever reason, that should be the focus of continued your work to learn focus of continued your work to learn focus of continued your work to learn why and to prevent that from happening why and to prevent that from happening why and to prevent that from happening ever again. There's no evidence that you ever again. There's no evidence that you ever again. There's no evidence that you are doing so. Instead, you have forced are doing so. Instead, you have forced are doing so. Instead, you have forced the victims to believe their painful the victims to believe their painful the victims to believe their painful experiences while doing little to give experiences while doing little to give experiences while doing little to give them and everybody else what's deserved, them and everybody else what's deserved, them and everybody else what's deserved, truth and justice. There's no plausible truth and justice. There's no plausible truth and justice. There's no plausible explanation for what you are doing other explanation for what you are doing other explanation for what you are doing other than partisan politics. You accepted the than partisan politics. You accepted the than partisan politics. You accepted the least from You accepted the least from least from You accepted the least from least from You accepted the least from those who know the most but demand the those who know the most but demand the those who know the most but demand the most from those who know the least. To most from those who know the least. To most from those who know the least. To say you can't comp complete your work say you can't comp complete your work say you can't comp complete your work without speaking to us is simply without speaking to us is simply without speaking to us is simply bizarre. You have asked what we know. To bizarre. You have asked what we know. To bizarre. You have asked what we know. To answer your inquiry, we are providing answer your inquiry, we are providing answer your inquiry, we are providing you with the same and more than seven of you with the same and more than seven of you with the same and more than seven of the other eight individuals you the other eight individuals you the other eight individuals you subpoenaed regarding the handling of the subpoenaed regarding the handling of the subpoenaed regarding the handling of the FC investigations and prosecutions which FC investigations and prosecutions which FC investigations and prosecutions which may be why you have not publicly may be why you have not publicly may be why you have not publicly released their written statements. We released their written statements. We released their written statements. We expect you will say it is not enough. We expect you will say it is not enough. We expect you will say it is not enough. We expect you'll reject it. You may even expect you'll reject it. You may even expect you'll reject it. You may even set out an empty chair or stand in front set out an empty chair or stand in front set out an empty chair or stand in front of the cameras and not right dismiss of the cameras and not right dismiss of the cameras and not right dismiss what we have provided. We expect you to what we have provided. We expect you to what we have provided. We expect you to direct your committee to seek to hold us direct your committee to seek to hold us direct your committee to seek to hold us in contempt. You may even release in contempt. You may even release in contempt. You may even release irrelevant decades old photos that you irrelevant decades old photos that you irrelevant decades old photos that you hope will embarrass us. You will say hope will embarrass us. You will say hope will embarrass us. You will say your caucus and the speaker and the your caucus and the speaker and the your caucus and the speaker and the presidents are behind you 100%. We hope presidents are behind you 100%. We hope presidents are behind you 100%. We hope perhaps in vain that they will not allow perhaps in vain that they will not allow perhaps in vain that they will not allow you to single-handedly hijack the you to single-handedly hijack the you to single-handedly hijack the congress by unilaterally making this congress by unilaterally making this congress by unilaterally making this decision for your colleagues, your party decision for your colleagues, your party decision for your colleagues, your party and our country. You will say it is not and our country. You will say it is not and our country. You will say it is not our decision to make, but we have made our decision to make, but we have made our decision to make, but we have made it. Now you have to make yours. We have it. Now you have to make yours. We have it. Now you have to make yours. We have prepared to make our case to our 45 prepared to make our case to our 45 prepared to make our case to our 45 committee members. And if need be more committee members. And if need be more committee members. And if need be more importantly, we will also will defend importantly, we will also will defend importantly, we will also will defend ourselves in the public arena and ensure ourselves in the public arena and ensure ourselves in the public arena and ensure this country knows exactly what you are this country knows exactly what you are this country knows exactly what you are doing and why you are doing so. Instead doing and why you are doing so. Instead doing and why you are doing so. Instead of helping the American people who need of helping the American people who need of helping the American people who need this Congress, Congress's work and this Congress, Congress's work and this Congress, Congress's work and protection. For most people, maybe even protection. For most people, maybe even protection. For most people, maybe even the bulk of Congress, today will be the the bulk of Congress, today will be the the bulk of Congress, today will be the first they learn of this dispute. We are first they learn of this dispute. We are first they learn of this dispute. We are confident that any reasonable person in confident that any reasonable person in confident that any reasonable person in or out of Congress will see based on or out of Congress will see based on or out of Congress will see based on everything we release that what you are everything we release that what you are everything we release that what you are doing is trying to punish those who are doing is trying to punish those who are doing is trying to punish those who are who you see as your enemies and protect who you see as your enemies and protect who you see as your enemies and protect those who you think are your friends. those who you think are your friends. those who you think are your friends. Continue to mislead Americans about what Continue to mislead Americans about what Continue to mislead Americans about what is truly at stake, and you will learn is truly at stake, and you will learn is truly at stake, and you will learn that Americans are better at finding the that Americans are better at finding the that Americans are better at finding the truth than you are at burying it. truth than you are at burying it. truth than you are at burying it. Continue to pursue autopens instead of Continue to pursue autopens instead of Continue to pursue autopens instead of penning laws Americans need, and you penning laws Americans need, and you penning laws Americans need, and you will learn that you are siding away any will learn that you are siding away any will learn that you are siding away any remaining chance of being on the right remaining chance of being on the right remaining chance of being on the right side of history. Continue to abet the side of history. Continue to abet the side of history. Continue to abet the dismantling of America, and you will dismantling of America, and you will dismantling of America, and you will learn that it would takes more than a learn that it would takes more than a learn that it would takes more than a wrecking ball to demolish the American wrecking ball to demolish the American wrecking ball to demolish the American to to demolish what Americans have built to to demolish what Americans have built to to demolish what Americans have built over 250 years. Bill and Hillary over 250 years. Bill and Hillary over 250 years. Bill and Hillary Clinton. Clinton. Clinton. >> Yeah. Well, I don't think this is going >> Yeah. Well, I don't think this is going >> Yeah. Well, I don't think this is going to play well for them. So, um, obviously to play well for them. So, um, obviously to play well for them. So, um, obviously people have longstanding people have longstanding people have longstanding assumptions, but they have long-standing assumptions, but they have long-standing assumptions, but they have long-standing assumptions about Bill Clinton's assumptions about Bill Clinton's assumptions about Bill Clinton's involvement with the Epstein. Uh, so for involvement with the Epstein. Uh, so for involvement with the Epstein. Uh, so for them to not show up, regardless of them to not show up, regardless of them to not show up, regardless of whether they let a bunch of other people whether they let a bunch of other people whether they let a bunch of other people off or whatever, it's off or whatever, it's off or whatever, it's >> everybody's going to go after the star >> everybody's going to go after the star >> everybody's going to go after the star witness. And these guys are the star witness. And these guys are the star witness. And these guys are the star witness. They're the ones that are going witness. They're the ones that are going witness. They're the ones that are going to get the attention. and they're the to get the attention. and they're the to get the attention. and they're the ones that are going to get the right ones that are going to get the right ones that are going to get the right amount of people to pay attention to amount of people to pay attention to amount of people to pay attention to this to make this a thing to make sure this to make this a thing to make sure this to make this a thing to make sure that there's enough energy to carry it that there's enough energy to carry it that there's enough energy to carry it across the finish line. Uh, and across the finish line. Uh, and across the finish line. Uh, and given that, like I don't know, maybe given that, like I don't know, maybe given that, like I don't know, maybe there are people that are like so on there are people that are like so on there are people that are like so on their side, like as long as they give an their side, like as long as they give an their side, like as long as they give an explanation about why they're trying to explanation about why they're trying to explanation about why they're trying to avoid the subpoena that they'll get some avoid the subpoena that they'll get some avoid the subpoena that they'll get some people on their team. But this just people on their team. But this just people on their team. But this just feels crazy like of all the things where feels crazy like of all the things where feels crazy like of all the things where you've just got to be like, "All right, you've just got to be like, "All right, you've just got to be like, "All right, cool. Let's sit down. If I've got cool. Let's sit down. If I've got cool. Let's sit down. If I've got nothing to hide, then I won't hide nothing to hide, then I won't hide nothing to hide, then I won't hide anything and I'll just come in and say anything and I'll just come in and say anything and I'll just come in and say the things. But I have a feeling the re the things. But I have a feeling the re the things. But I have a feeling the re feeling, it's just a feeling. I don't feeling, it's just a feeling. I don't feeling, it's just a feeling. I don't know, but I have a feeling that the know, but I have a feeling that the know, but I have a feeling that the reason that they don't want to do it is reason that they don't want to do it is reason that they don't want to do it is there'll be a lot of I invoked at the there'll be a lot of I invoked at the there'll be a lot of I invoked at the advice of council. I invoked my fifth advice of council. I invoked my fifth advice of council. I invoked my fifth amendment. You know, so it'll be them amendment. You know, so it'll be them amendment. You know, so it'll be them saying that over and over and over and saying that over and over and over and saying that over and over and over and they know that that is horrific optics they know that that is horrific optics they know that that is horrific optics because they ask you questions where you because they ask you questions where you because they ask you questions where you simply refusing to answer make you look simply refusing to answer make you look simply refusing to answer make you look the guiltyest. So anyway, welcome to the the guiltyest. So anyway, welcome to the the guiltyest. So anyway, welcome to the political game. This is a whole bunch of political game. This is a whole bunch of political game. This is a whole bunch of theater. Uh, and it ends up confusing theater. Uh, and it ends up confusing theater. Uh, and it ends up confusing the issue just enough that they'll be the issue just enough that they'll be the issue just enough that they'll be able to drag this out, steal a little able to drag this out, steal a little able to drag this out, steal a little bit more energy from all this. Um I Drew bit more energy from all this. Um I Drew bit more energy from all this. Um I Drew if we were going to poly market this if we were going to poly market this if we were going to poly market this you've got a lot of people saying you've got a lot of people saying you've got a lot of people saying Obama's going to be perpwalked for uh Obama's going to be perpwalked for uh Obama's going to be perpwalked for uh trying to take down Trump that Bill is trying to take down Trump that Bill is trying to take down Trump that Bill is going to be perpwalked for the Epstein going to be perpwalked for the Epstein going to be perpwalked for the Epstein stuff. I I will go on record saying stuff. I I will go on record saying stuff. I I will go on record saying there's no perp walking. there's no perp walking. there's no perp walking. >> Uh Bill Clinton charged by 4% chance >> Uh Bill Clinton charged by 4% chance >> Uh Bill Clinton charged by 4% chance that Bill Clinton is charged by January that Bill Clinton is charged by January that Bill Clinton is charged by January 31st on poly market right now. 31st on poly market right now. 31st on poly market right now. >> Yeah. I mean, I'd be far more curious to >> Yeah. I mean, I'd be far more curious to >> Yeah. I mean, I'd be far more curious to see if he'll be charged by say March see if he'll be charged by say March see if he'll be charged by say March 31st where we'd actually have some time 31st where we'd actually have some time 31st where we'd actually have some time to do the thing to do the thing to do the thing >> process. >> process. >> process. >> So, cuz that one feels more like just >> So, cuz that one feels more like just >> So, cuz that one feels more like just the timing of it the timing of it the timing of it >> because that's only a couple weeks from >> because that's only a couple weeks from >> because that's only a couple weeks from now. But now. But now. But >> what do you think? Like do you actually >> what do you think? Like do you actually >> what do you think? Like do you actually think cuz uh I have a long-standing think cuz uh I have a long-standing think cuz uh I have a long-standing belief that the government should not be belief that the government should not be belief that the government should not be in the business of prosecuting the other in the business of prosecuting the other in the business of prosecuting the other side. Mhm. side. Mhm. side. Mhm. >> Um, so I understand the weakness that >> Um, so I understand the weakness that >> Um, so I understand the weakness that that creates, but that creates, but that creates, but oh man, I'm I am currently more worried oh man, I'm I am currently more worried oh man, I'm I am currently more worried about justice being weaponized than I am about justice being weaponized than I am about justice being weaponized than I am about people getting away with about people getting away with about people getting away with something. Um, in the age of something. Um, in the age of something. Um, in the age of transparency, obviously more and more transparency, obviously more and more transparency, obviously more and more things are coming out, and I would much things are coming out, and I would much things are coming out, and I would much rather simply see those things stopped, rather simply see those things stopped, rather simply see those things stopped, see the system shor up, so make it see the system shor up, so make it see the system shor up, so make it impossible to rig elections. um make it impossible to rig elections. um make it impossible to rig elections. um make it impossible or at least far more impossible or at least far more impossible or at least far more difficult to commit fraud. Like those difficult to commit fraud. Like those difficult to commit fraud. Like those kinds of things. Yes. Um going back and kinds of things. Yes. Um going back and kinds of things. Yes. Um going back and pursuing uh a former president is pursuing uh a former president is pursuing uh a former president is terrible. And I'm just like, can you not terrible. And I'm just like, can you not terrible. And I'm just like, can you not see like dude, you are setting the stage see like dude, you are setting the stage see like dude, you are setting the stage for your own existential crisis where for your own existential crisis where for your own existential crisis where you don't get reelected and now they're you don't get reelected and now they're you don't get reelected and now they're coming after you legally. It's just like coming after you legally. It's just like coming after you legally. It's just like it's so self-defeating. So anyway, but I it's so self-defeating. So anyway, but I it's so self-defeating. So anyway, but I also think that just there's something also think that just there's something also think that just there's something in the system that's going to stop this in the system that's going to stop this in the system that's going to stop this from happening. from happening. from happening. >> It's it's seeing let's let's get James >> It's it's seeing let's let's get James >> It's it's seeing let's let's get James Comr's uh response to this um talking Comr's uh response to this um talking Comr's uh response to this um talking about the contempt charges that he wants about the contempt charges that he wants about the contempt charges that he wants to put out and then we can give like a to put out and then we can give like a to put out and then we can give like a full depth. full depth. full depth. >> All right. Well, I think everyone knows >> All right. Well, I think everyone knows >> All right. Well, I think everyone knows by now Bill Clinton did not show up and by now Bill Clinton did not show up and by now Bill Clinton did not show up and I think it's important to note I think it's important to note I think it's important to note >> holding the picture behind him is wild. >> holding the picture behind him is wild. >> holding the picture behind him is wild. If y'all see in the bottom left of your If y'all see in the bottom left of your If y'all see in the bottom left of your chat chat chat >> dressed out of is that him with Epste >> dressed out of is that him with Epste >> dressed out of is that him with Epste issued as chairman of the committee. issued as chairman of the committee. issued as chairman of the committee. This was voted on by the entire This was voted on by the entire This was voted on by the entire committee in a unanimous vote of the committee in a unanimous vote of the committee in a unanimous vote of the House Oversight Committee to House Oversight Committee to House Oversight Committee to >> How are they that it's out of >> How are they that it's out of >> How are they that it's out of >> former President Clinton and former >> former President Clinton and former >> former President Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Now, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Now, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Now, Hillary Clinton's supposed to show up Hillary Clinton's supposed to show up Hillary Clinton's supposed to show up tomorrow. We'll see what happens there. tomorrow. We'll see what happens there. tomorrow. We'll see what happens there. But with respect to the former But with respect to the former But with respect to the former president, he he did not show up today. president, he he did not show up today. president, he he did not show up today. Uh, one reason I think most Americans Uh, one reason I think most Americans Uh, one reason I think most Americans want President Clinton to answer some want President Clinton to answer some want President Clinton to answer some questions who are is because he visited questions who are is because he visited questions who are is because he visited the White House, Jeffrey Epstein visited the White House, Jeffrey Epstein visited the White House, Jeffrey Epstein visited the White House 17 times while Bill the White House 17 times while Bill the White House 17 times while Bill Clinton was president for Congress. Clinton was president for Congress. Clinton was president for Congress. >> Also, if you're my age, like I remember >> Also, if you're my age, like I remember >> Also, if you're my age, like I remember him uh under oath, I did not have sexual him uh under oath, I did not have sexual him uh under oath, I did not have sexual relations with that woman. relations with that woman. relations with that woman. >> And it's like, you lied right to our >> And it's like, you lied right to our >> And it's like, you lied right to our faces. And so it's one of those faces. And so it's one of those faces. And so it's one of those >> there's not a sexual relation. I'm >> there's not a sexual relation. I'm >> there's not a sexual relation. I'm joking. joking. joking. >> I I remember when he was like, "Oh, I >> I I remember when he was like, "Oh, I >> I I remember when he was like, "Oh, I was surprised that that's how you define was surprised that that's how you define was surprised that that's how you define sex." And it's like, "Oh my god." So, sex." And it's like, "Oh my god." So, sex." And it's like, "Oh my god." So, uh, he does not have a good reputation, uh, he does not have a good reputation, uh, he does not have a good reputation, at least for people like me who who at least for people like me who who at least for people like me who who literally were watching the whole Monica literally were watching the whole Monica literally were watching the whole Monica Lewinsky thing unfold in real time. And Lewinsky thing unfold in real time. And Lewinsky thing unfold in real time. And it was just like, uhoh, like this is it was just like, uhoh, like this is it was just like, uhoh, like this is coming back to haunt him. He was so avid coming back to haunt him. He was so avid coming back to haunt him. He was so avid and determined that like he didn't do and determined that like he didn't do and determined that like he didn't do it. This is all just a witch hunt. is it. This is all just a witch hunt. is it. This is all just a witch hunt. is all crazy. And then it obviously comes all crazy. And then it obviously comes all crazy. And then it obviously comes out DNA evidence, like nowhere to run out DNA evidence, like nowhere to run out DNA evidence, like nowhere to run with that one. Has to retract it all. with that one. Has to retract it all. with that one. Has to retract it all. Then finally admits he did it simply Then finally admits he did it simply Then finally admits he did it simply because he could. It was like, bro, this because he could. It was like, bro, this because he could. It was like, bro, this is where that kind of thing comes back is where that kind of thing comes back is where that kind of thing comes back to haunt you. Where it's like, well, I'm to haunt you. Where it's like, well, I'm to haunt you. Where it's like, well, I'm not going to take you at face value not going to take you at face value not going to take you at face value because I know that you're willing to because I know that you're willing to because I know that you're willing to lie. lie. lie. >> Uh so yeah, >> Uh so yeah, >> Uh so yeah, >> and because it was a sexual thing as >> and because it was a sexual thing as >> and because it was a sexual thing as well. So it's like he's got a very well. So it's like he's got a very well. So it's like he's got a very unclean record when it comes to that as unclean record when it comes to that as unclean record when it comes to that as well. Yeah. Uh I'm no fan of the well. Yeah. Uh I'm no fan of the well. Yeah. Uh I'm no fan of the Clintons. Um Hillary Clinton was Clintons. Um Hillary Clinton was Clintons. Um Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State when Haiti went Secretary of State when Haiti went Secretary of State when Haiti went undergone that mass earthquake. She was undergone that mass earthquake. She was undergone that mass earthquake. She was in charge of allocating the funds that in charge of allocating the funds that in charge of allocating the funds that raised. Over 8 billion dollars were raised. Over 8 billion dollars were raised. Over 8 billion dollars were raised for the Haiti uh restoration act. raised for the Haiti uh restoration act. raised for the Haiti uh restoration act. They built a community center in two They built a community center in two They built a community center in two town houses before the UN. town houses before the UN. town houses before the UN. >> Um and meanwhile, the Clintons were able >> Um and meanwhile, the Clintons were able >> Um and meanwhile, the Clintons were able to buy into the third largest telecom to buy into the third largest telecom to buy into the third largest telecom provider in Haiti. And now our provider in Haiti. And now our provider in Haiti. And now our stockholders on the board. So by no stockholders on the board. So by no stockholders on the board. So by no means am I team Clinton. um they have a means am I team Clinton. um they have a means am I team Clinton. um they have a special level of hell for them um special level of hell for them um special level of hell for them um waiting for him. I do want to say though waiting for him. I do want to say though waiting for him. I do want to say though points were made. Uh Bill Clinton points were made. Uh Bill Clinton points were made. Uh Bill Clinton brought up when Trump was subpoenaed brought up when Trump was subpoenaed brought up when Trump was subpoenaed when Biden was in office, he didn't show when Biden was in office, he didn't show when Biden was in office, he didn't show up. Now they're doing the same thing to up. Now they're doing the same thing to up. Now they're doing the same thing to him as a former president. So going back him as a former president. So going back him as a former president. So going back to your point of this tit fortat, is to your point of this tit fortat, is to your point of this tit fortat, is this also another uh side effect of this also another uh side effect of this also another uh side effect of populism and we're this is just what it populism and we're this is just what it populism and we're this is just what it is going to be or are we just going to is going to be or are we just going to is going to be or are we just going to have to wait until people make more have to wait until people make more have to wait until people make more money so that way they can finally say, money so that way they can finally say, money so that way they can finally say, "Okay, let's stop bickering and let's "Okay, let's stop bickering and let's "Okay, let's stop bickering and let's stand up." But it seems like stand up." But it seems like stand up." But it seems like >> you're always going to get this kind of >> you're always going to get this kind of >> you're always going to get this kind of political grandstanding. Politicians are political grandstanding. Politicians are political grandstanding. Politicians are politicians in good times and bad and politicians in good times and bad and politicians in good times and bad and they will say and do they will say and do they will say and do >> but but the criminal charges is a new >> but but the criminal charges is a new >> but but the criminal charges is a new level though. I don't want to just level though. I don't want to just level though. I don't want to just minimize that to political minimize that to political minimize that to political >> and Biden did it too. So but by no means >> and Biden did it too. So but by no means >> and Biden did it too. So but by no means am I saying that he's free of this am I saying that he's free of this am I saying that he's free of this critique. So critique. So critique. So >> the aggressive pursuit of legal action >> the aggressive pursuit of legal action >> the aggressive pursuit of legal action on both sides is for sure a thing that on both sides is for sure a thing that on both sides is for sure a thing that happens in a populist moment where happens in a populist moment where happens in a populist moment where people are dogmatically on teams. They people are dogmatically on teams. They people are dogmatically on teams. They are fighting over a shrinking pie. All are fighting over a shrinking pie. All are fighting over a shrinking pie. All of that for sure. of that for sure. of that for sure. >> Um >> Um >> Um so yes, will prosperity make this recede so yes, will prosperity make this recede so yes, will prosperity make this recede into the background a little bit? Yes. into the background a little bit? Yes. into the background a little bit? Yes. But now this is also in the cultural But now this is also in the cultural But now this is also in the cultural zeitgeist. And so how long like once you zeitgeist. And so how long like once you zeitgeist. And so how long like once you start crossing um cultural norms? It start crossing um cultural norms? It start crossing um cultural norms? It takes a while for culture to rebound. takes a while for culture to rebound. takes a while for culture to rebound. You need then another leader to come in You need then another leader to come in You need then another leader to come in and begin to start reestablishing the and begin to start reestablishing the and begin to start reestablishing the norms. Then you need a crop of norms. Then you need a crop of norms. Then you need a crop of politicians to grow up where those are politicians to grow up where those are politicians to grow up where those are the norms. And then that becomes the norms. And then that becomes the norms. And then that becomes solidified. But you're going to deal solidified. But you're going to deal solidified. But you're going to deal with I mean a good 20 years of like oh with I mean a good 20 years of like oh with I mean a good 20 years of like oh this is what we do. We threaten and we this is what we do. We threaten and we this is what we do. We threaten and we cajol and uh so yeah don't expect cajol and uh so yeah don't expect cajol and uh so yeah don't expect lawfare to go away anytime soon. lawfare to go away anytime soon. lawfare to go away anytime soon. >> Full stop. Period. >> Full stop. Period. >> Full stop. Period. >> Full stop. Now whether it spills over >> Full stop. Now whether it spills over >> Full stop. Now whether it spills over into something that truly becomes into something that truly becomes into something that truly becomes existential where people now are existential where people now are existential where people now are fighting to retain power because they fighting to retain power because they fighting to retain power because they know that if they get out of office that know that if they get out of office that know that if they get out of office that they're going to jail. That's going to they're going to jail. That's going to they're going to jail. That's going to attract the wrong kind of person. Like attract the wrong kind of person. Like attract the wrong kind of person. Like imagine what you have to be like if imagine what you have to be like if imagine what you have to be like if right now Trump called me up and was right now Trump called me up and was right now Trump called me up and was like, "I need your help." I'd be like, like, "I need your help." I'd be like, like, "I need your help." I'd be like, "Sorry, bro. Best of luck. Hope "Sorry, bro. Best of luck. Hope "Sorry, bro. Best of luck. Hope everything goes okay." Like, there's no everything goes okay." Like, there's no everything goes okay." Like, there's no way I'm not getting into that [ __ ] way I'm not getting into that [ __ ] way I'm not getting into that [ __ ] morass. Like, you got to be kidding. So, morass. Like, you got to be kidding. So, morass. Like, you got to be kidding. So, um, you are not going to attract your um, you are not going to attract your um, you are not going to attract your I mean, now I'm being idealistic, but I mean, now I'm being idealistic, but I mean, now I'm being idealistic, but you're not going to attract your Lincoln you're not going to attract your Lincoln you're not going to attract your Lincoln to politics when it's like, no, to politics when it's like, no, to politics when it's like, no, everybody gets clubbed. His whole thing everybody gets clubbed. His whole thing everybody gets clubbed. His whole thing was like, team of rivals. I want to be was like, team of rivals. I want to be was like, team of rivals. I want to be surrounded by people who think surrounded by people who think surrounded by people who think differently than me. I need to see this differently than me. I need to see this differently than me. I need to see this from all sides. And you're just not from all sides. And you're just not from all sides. And you're just not going to get that kind of person when going to get that kind of person when going to get that kind of person when it's like this true blood sport and it's like this true blood sport and it's like this true blood sport and people are getting locked up. It's like, people are getting locked up. It's like, people are getting locked up. It's like, damn. That's you consolidate power. you damn. That's you consolidate power. you damn. That's you consolidate power. you make sure you close your flank like you make sure you close your flank like you make sure you close your flank like you arrest them before they can arrest you. arrest them before they can arrest you. arrest them before they can arrest you. That that is going to breed a level of That that is going to breed a level of That that is going to breed a level of corruption that is insane. And I worry corruption that is insane. And I worry corruption that is insane. And I worry that we're already in the middle of that we're already in the middle of that we're already in the middle of that. And so that we are going to start that. And so that we are going to start that. And so that we are going to start hearing things come out from both sides hearing things come out from both sides hearing things come out from both sides of people doing the most horrendous [ __ ] of people doing the most horrendous [ __ ] of people doing the most horrendous [ __ ] where it's like, yeah, you could lock where it's like, yeah, you could lock where it's like, yeah, you could lock them up for that. And I'm saying stop it them up for that. And I'm saying stop it them up for that. And I'm saying stop it from happening again. from happening again. from happening again. Don't lock people up because Don't lock people up because Don't lock people up because it's just going to come after you and it's just going to come after you and it's just going to come after you and the only way then to survive that is to the only way then to survive that is to the only way then to survive that is to go after the other team first and that go after the other team first and that go after the other team first and that will escalate so quickly. will escalate so quickly. will escalate so quickly. >> Yeah. Um >> Yeah. Um >> Yeah. Um is it cuz I'm not going to lie, Trump is it cuz I'm not going to lie, Trump is it cuz I'm not going to lie, Trump was the most sued president ever. Like was the most sued president ever. Like was the most sued president ever. Like full stop. Um lawsuits, subpoenas, Mara full stop. Um lawsuits, subpoenas, Mara full stop. Um lawsuits, subpoenas, Mara Lago charges, whatever. Lago charges, whatever. Lago charges, whatever. >> So I can understand that he might have >> So I can understand that he might have >> So I can understand that he might have an axe to grind. He might have a beef. an axe to grind. He might have a beef. an axe to grind. He might have a beef. um let's say he's removed his contempt um let's say he's removed his contempt um let's say he's removed his contempt and stuff like that. Do you think that and stuff like that. Do you think that and stuff like that. Do you think that James Comr and some of these GOP James Comr and some of these GOP James Comr and some of these GOP senators, are they operating from senators, are they operating from senators, are they operating from Trump's demand, do you think, or do you Trump's demand, do you think, or do you Trump's demand, do you think, or do you think they're just everybody's feeling think they're just everybody's feeling think they're just everybody's feeling the lawfare and they want to get the lawfare and they want to get the lawfare and they want to get involved in it? involved in it? involved in it? >> Everybody's feeling the lawfare. They >> Everybody's feeling the lawfare. They >> Everybody's feeling the lawfare. They want to get in on it. The dynamics are want to get in on it. The dynamics are want to get in on it. The dynamics are such that Trump is surrounding himself such that Trump is surrounding himself such that Trump is surrounding himself with people that are loyal to him, that with people that are loyal to him, that with people that are loyal to him, that believe the things that he believes, believe the things that he believes, believe the things that he believes, that want to see the administration go that want to see the administration go that want to see the administration go forward. They all have different forward. They all have different forward. They all have different personalities and temperaments. Steven personalities and temperaments. Steven personalities and temperaments. Steven Miller is not putting on an act. That's Miller is not putting on an act. That's Miller is not putting on an act. That's who Steven Miller is. That is his who Steven Miller is. That is his who Steven Miller is. That is his temperament. He is deeply temperament. He is deeply temperament. He is deeply confrontational. He thrives on confrontational. He thrives on confrontational. He thrives on disagreement. Like he's disagreement. Like he's disagreement. Like he's >> see the high school video of him. >> see the high school video of him. >> see the high school video of him. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Oh, >> Oh, >> Oh, >> I'll pull that up. >> I'll pull that up. >> I'll pull that up. >> Is he exactly the same? >> Is he exactly the same? >> Is he exactly the same? >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Yeah, of course. Like this. I hate to >> Yeah, of course. Like this. I hate to >> Yeah, of course. Like this. I hate to say it, but man, our personalities are say it, but man, our personalities are say it, but man, our personalities are pretty baked. pretty baked. pretty baked. >> All right, you pulled that up fast. >> All right, you pulled that up fast. >> All right, you pulled that up fast. >> I don't tired of being told to pick up >> I don't tired of being told to pick up >> I don't tired of being told to pick up my trash. We have plenty of gems. my trash. We have plenty of gems. my trash. We have plenty of gems. >> People are young. >> People are young. >> People are young. >> What a lovely young man, huh? Even for >> What a lovely young man, huh? Even for >> What a lovely young man, huh? Even for 2002, that was apparently too much. And 2002, that was apparently too much. And 2002, that was apparently too much. And then, so then when they tried to bring then, so then when they tried to bring then, so then when they tried to bring up the next speaker, all up the next speaker, all up the next speaker, all >> So yeah, listen, I I am not at all >> So yeah, listen, I I am not at all >> So yeah, listen, I I am not at all surprised that Steven Miller has always surprised that Steven Miller has always surprised that Steven Miller has always been like that. If that's your been like that. If that's your been like that. If that's your personality and you get some sort of personality and you get some sort of personality and you get some sort of high off of that fight, then you're high off of that fight, then you're high off of that fight, then you're going to put yourself in that situation. going to put yourself in that situation. going to put yourself in that situation. But that's who's going to be attracted But that's who's going to be attracted But that's who's going to be attracted to this kind of thing. You're going to to this kind of thing. You're going to to this kind of thing. You're going to get more and more of those disagreeable, get more and more of those disagreeable, get more and more of those disagreeable, highly contentious personalities. Um, highly contentious personalities. Um, highly contentious personalities. Um, when you need, when you need, when you need, not to overplay this card, but when you not to overplay this card, but when you not to overplay this card, but when you need somebody like a Nelson Mandela who need somebody like a Nelson Mandela who need somebody like a Nelson Mandela who can set that aside and understands that can set that aside and understands that can set that aside and understands that you have to let this stuff go and that you have to let this stuff go and that you have to let this stuff go and that put uh, whites on his security detail put uh, whites on his security detail put uh, whites on his security detail because he was like, we have to find a because he was like, we have to find a because he was like, we have to find a way to come together. And people like, way to come together. And people like, way to come together. And people like, you are literally gambling with your you are literally gambling with your you are literally gambling with your life. and he's like, "Yeah, but that's life. and he's like, "Yeah, but that's life. and he's like, "Yeah, but that's what we have to do to get unity." It's what we have to do to get unity." It's what we have to do to get unity." It's like, "God damn, people like that are like, "God damn, people like that are like, "God damn, people like that are few and far between, but we really need few and far between, but we really need few and far between, but we really need some." some." some." >> Um, somebody in chat said, "Massie is >> Um, somebody in chat said, "Massie is >> Um, somebody in chat said, "Massie is not in the forefront. That means it's not in the forefront. That means it's not in the forefront. That means it's just a show." Going to Bill Clinton's just a show." Going to Bill Clinton's just a show." Going to Bill Clinton's point. Comr even voted not to release point. Comr even voted not to release point. Comr even voted not to release the Epstein files. So, to now be on the the Epstein files. So, to now be on the the Epstein files. So, to now be on the front line of the subpoena, calling front line of the subpoena, calling front line of the subpoena, calling Hillary Clinton, saying they're they're Hillary Clinton, saying they're they're Hillary Clinton, saying they're they're contempt of court. Isn't that a bit of contempt of court. Isn't that a bit of contempt of court. Isn't that a bit of uh uh uh >> political theater? >> political theater? >> political theater? >> Political theater. Cool. Okay. >> Political theater. Cool. Okay. >> Political theater. Cool. Okay. >> Yeah. I mean, for sure. All so much of >> Yeah. I mean, for sure. All so much of >> Yeah. I mean, for sure. All so much of what politicians do is just political what politicians do is just political what politicians do is just political theater. There's no doubt. For sure. theater. There's no doubt. For sure. theater. There's no doubt. For sure. >> Full stop. >> Full stop. >> Full stop. >> Y >> Y >> Y >> love that. Um okay, I'm going to poly >> love that. Um okay, I'm going to poly >> love that. Um okay, I'm going to poly market you right now. Um so we have this market you right now. Um so we have this market you right now. Um so we have this presidency. We have um what's the next presidency. We have um what's the next presidency. We have um what's the next one? 2028. We have 2028. We have 2032. one? 2028. We have 2028. We have 2032. one? 2028. We have 2028. We have 2032. By 2032, By 2032, By 2032, 50% chance that the incumbent 50% chance that the incumbent 50% chance that the incumbent files lawfare against the past files lawfare against the past files lawfare against the past president. U if it's a different party. president. U if it's a different party. president. U if it's a different party. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> I have it at 50%. Are you over or under? >> I have it at 50%. Are you over or under? >> I have it at 50%. Are you over or under? >> This is 2028. >> This is 2028. >> This is 2028. >> Uh 2032. I'm giving you one cycle for us >> Uh 2032. I'm giving you one cycle for us >> Uh 2032. I'm giving you one cycle for us to work through this populism. And after to work through this populism. And after to work through this populism. And after >> uh it will be entirely dependent on what >> uh it will be entirely dependent on what >> uh it will be entirely dependent on what Trump does. So this is really me saying, Trump does. So this is really me saying, Trump does. So this is really me saying, do I think that Trump is going to pursue do I think that Trump is going to pursue do I think that Trump is going to pursue handcuffs? I think Trump is going to handcuffs? I think Trump is going to handcuffs? I think Trump is going to pursue handcuffs, so pursue handcuffs, so pursue handcuffs, so I'll go over 50%. I'll go over 50%. I'll go over 50%. >> Over 50% most likely to happen. Okay. >> Over 50% most likely to happen. Okay. >> Over 50% most likely to happen. Okay. >> Okay. Um Okay. This is just a >> Okay. Um Okay. This is just a >> Okay. Um Okay. This is just a >> My only hope is that he just can't get >> My only hope is that he just can't get >> My only hope is that he just can't get it. it. it. >> Copy. >> Copy. >> Copy. >> And that somehow dissipates the energy, >> And that somehow dissipates the energy, >> And that somehow dissipates the energy, but I doubt it. but I doubt it. but I doubt it. >> Um this is a PSA and this is something >> Um this is a PSA and this is something >> Um this is a PSA and this is something it's a quick audible I'm calling. Um it's a quick audible I'm calling. Um it's a quick audible I'm calling. Um this has nothing to do with like this has nothing to do with like this has nothing to do with like politics and stuff. This is just politics and stuff. This is just politics and stuff. This is just something that has been up uh recently. something that has been up uh recently. something that has been up uh recently. Um and I know uh Tywin Pet has a 4-day Um and I know uh Tywin Pet has a 4-day Um and I know uh Tywin Pet has a 4-day old. So, um, all my parents, all my old. So, um, all my parents, all my old. So, um, all my parents, all my people who have like babies and kids, people who have like babies and kids, people who have like babies and kids, there's been a damning report from the there's been a damning report from the there's been a damning report from the Florida Department of Health that 25 Florida Department of Health that 25 Florida Department of Health that 25 baby formulas, baby formulas, baby formulas, >> 70% of them were tested positive for >> 70% of them were tested positive for >> 70% of them were tested positive for heavy metals like arsenic, lead, heavy metals like arsenic, lead, heavy metals like arsenic, lead, mercury, above legal limits. So, this is mercury, above legal limits. So, this is mercury, above legal limits. So, this is just a PSA. If you have kids at home, just a PSA. If you have kids at home, just a PSA. If you have kids at home, check the uh check your the ones you use check the uh check your the ones you use check the uh check your the ones you use and let me know. It was Similac soy and let me know. It was Similac soy and let me know. It was Similac soy powder, Similac soy liquid. So, yeah. powder, Similac soy liquid. So, yeah. powder, Similac soy liquid. So, yeah. Yeah, we don't need to read the book, Yeah, we don't need to read the book, Yeah, we don't need to read the book, but yeah, like all of that. but yeah, like all of that. but yeah, like all of that. >> Look at your screen. There's a lot >> Look at your screen. There's a lot >> Look at your screen. There's a lot >> um >> um >> um >> that that's wild. >> that that's wild. >> that that's wild. >> Personally, I feel like this is >> Personally, I feel like this is >> Personally, I feel like this is criminal. Like I need Congress to criminal. Like I need Congress to criminal. Like I need Congress to subpoena the Simlac company cuz this is subpoena the Simlac company cuz this is subpoena the Simlac company cuz this is this is egregious. I feel like this is this is egregious. I feel like this is this is egregious. I feel like this is this gets this gets this gets >> protect your kids, man. Protect your >> protect your kids, man. Protect your >> protect your kids, man. Protect your kids. kids. kids. >> Fighting words. >> Fighting words. >> Fighting words. >> Every nation needs to protect their >> Every nation needs to protect their >> Every nation needs to protect their kids. kids. kids. >> Like this is not okay. So >> Like this is not okay. So >> Like this is not okay. So >> I agree. And this kind of stuff is uh >> I agree. And this kind of stuff is uh >> I agree. And this kind of stuff is uh you just test like as as a former owner you just test like as as a former owner you just test like as as a former owner of a food company, you had to test every of a food company, you had to test every of a food company, you had to test every batch. This is not hard. So yesesh, I batch. This is not hard. So yesesh, I batch. This is not hard. So yesesh, I worry that either they weren't testing worry that either they weren't testing worry that either they weren't testing falsifying their test results or we falsifying their test results or we falsifying their test results or we don't require them. Like when I think don't require them. Like when I think don't require them. Like when I think back to all the things that we had to back to all the things that we had to back to all the things that we had to test for and I had to know an individual test for and I had to know an individual test for and I had to know an individual bar where it ended up. So we had this bar where it ended up. So we had this bar where it ended up. So we had this insane tracking system so that if we had insane tracking system so that if we had insane tracking system so that if we had to recall something, we could actually to recall something, we could actually to recall something, we could actually reach out and say to the store, you have reach out and say to the store, you have reach out and say to the store, you have this bar, this bar must be recalled. this bar, this bar must be recalled. this bar, this bar must be recalled. So, yeah, this one feels like something So, yeah, this one feels like something So, yeah, this one feels like something very systemic went wrong. If we've got very systemic went wrong. If we've got very systemic went wrong. If we've got that much baby formula with heavy that much baby formula with heavy that much baby formula with heavy metals, which feels like a thing we metals, which feels like a thing we metals, which feels like a thing we would test for. would test for. would test for. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh coming in at over the legal limit, >> Uh coming in at over the legal limit, >> Uh coming in at over the legal limit, that's not ideal. that's not ideal. that's not ideal. >> Did you have like I don't want to say >> Did you have like I don't want to say >> Did you have like I don't want to say food inspector, but was there somebody food inspector, but was there somebody food inspector, but was there somebody from the government that like, hey, from the government that like, hey, from the government that like, hey, >> yes, but here's the thing. Government >> yes, but here's the thing. Government >> yes, but here's the thing. Government inspectors are going to come, you know, inspectors are going to come, you know, inspectors are going to come, you know, once every month. Like, you're not once every month. Like, you're not once every month. Like, you're not getting somebody that's there every day. getting somebody that's there every day. getting somebody that's there every day. you as a company have to hold your brand you as a company have to hold your brand you as a company have to hold your brand integrity as the north star, but they're integrity as the north star, but they're integrity as the north star, but they're giving you like you need to be testing giving you like you need to be testing giving you like you need to be testing for these things. And so you get very for these things. And so you get very for these things. And so you get very quickly a sense of like the stuff that quickly a sense of like the stuff that quickly a sense of like the stuff that matters. Now each company, I mean, matters. Now each company, I mean, matters. Now each company, I mean, listen, as a PSA to companies, listen, as a PSA to companies, listen, as a PSA to companies, especially small companies, you can especially small companies, you can especially small companies, you can differentiate yourself simply by being differentiate yourself simply by being differentiate yourself simply by being better than the competition. This is the better than the competition. This is the better than the competition. This is the perfect advertising campaign for an perfect advertising campaign for an perfect advertising campaign for an upstart baby formula company who's like, upstart baby formula company who's like, upstart baby formula company who's like, "Look at our testing protocol. Look at "Look at our testing protocol. Look at "Look at our testing protocol. Look at all the things that we do. Moms, we got all the things that we do. Moms, we got all the things that we do. Moms, we got you. We're going to make sure that your you. We're going to make sure that your you. We're going to make sure that your kids are good. So, I mean, this is kids are good. So, I mean, this is kids are good. So, I mean, this is horrible for all the people that have horrible for all the people that have horrible for all the people that have given this to their kids, but this is a given this to their kids, but this is a given this to their kids, but this is a tremendous opportunity for uh a tremendous opportunity for uh a tremendous opportunity for uh a entrepreneur whose northstar isn't just entrepreneur whose northstar isn't just entrepreneur whose northstar isn't just profitability. You have to think about profitability. You have to think about profitability. You have to think about profitability, but that your northstar profitability, but that your northstar profitability, but that your northstar is something else. That we want to raise is something else. That we want to raise is something else. That we want to raise the healthiest kids. We want the highest the healthiest kids. We want the highest the healthiest kids. We want the highest quality food in some way that's like quality food in some way that's like quality food in some way that's like really measurable. Um, so yeah, really measurable. Um, so yeah, really measurable. Um, so yeah, hopefully somebody takes advantage of hopefully somebody takes advantage of hopefully somebody takes advantage of that and really makes a move because that and really makes a move because that and really makes a move because this is the exact kind of thing that at this is the exact kind of thing that at this is the exact kind of thing that at Quest we did. We said we're here trying Quest we did. We said we're here trying Quest we did. We said we're here trying to end metabolic disease. And so we're to end metabolic disease. And so we're to end metabolic disease. And so we're always going to put the ingredients in always going to put the ingredients in always going to put the ingredients in that we believe are the best ingredient that we believe are the best ingredient that we believe are the best ingredient for your metabolic health. We would for your metabolic health. We would for your metabolic health. We would change ingredients even though there change ingredients even though there change ingredients even though there were changes we made to our ingredients were changes we made to our ingredients were changes we made to our ingredients that cost us hundreds of millions of that cost us hundreds of millions of that cost us hundreds of millions of dollars because it just made the product dollars because it just made the product dollars because it just made the product less popular, but it was like it was less popular, but it was like it was less popular, but it was like it was better for you. So, and listen, we tried better for you. So, and listen, we tried better for you. So, and listen, we tried to balance it. Obviously, we want things to balance it. Obviously, we want things to balance it. Obviously, we want things to be like delicious. If nobody eats it, to be like delicious. If nobody eats it, to be like delicious. If nobody eats it, you've got nothing. But it's like when you've got nothing. But it's like when you've got nothing. But it's like when you're driven by something else, it goes you're driven by something else, it goes you're driven by something else, it goes a long way. And this is one of the ways a long way. And this is one of the ways a long way. And this is one of the ways that we built the brand was just being that we built the brand was just being that we built the brand was just being so hardcore about that. so hardcore about that. so hardcore about that. >> Yeah. Uh yeah. Crazy. So, we'll just >> Yeah. Uh yeah. Crazy. So, we'll just >> Yeah. Uh yeah. Crazy. So, we'll just we'll follow monitor that situation. But we'll follow monitor that situation. But we'll follow monitor that situation. But to all those parents, breastfeed if you to all those parents, breastfeed if you to all those parents, breastfeed if you can, double check the bottles. Run it can, double check the bottles. Run it can, double check the bottles. Run it against that. The Florida um Department against that. The Florida um Department against that. The Florida um Department of Health was the one who came. of Health was the one who came. of Health was the one who came. >> What's wild is a lot of women just felt >> What's wild is a lot of women just felt >> What's wild is a lot of women just felt attacked by you that you said breastfeed attacked by you that you said breastfeed attacked by you that you said breastfeed if you can. I don't understand that. if you can. I don't understand that. if you can. I don't understand that. Breastfeed if you can. For real. For Breastfeed if you can. For real. For Breastfeed if you can. For real. For real. real. real. >> You don't understand the attack or me >> You don't understand the attack or me >> You don't understand the attack or me saying that saying that saying that >> women are going to feel attacked. Some >> women are going to feel attacked. Some >> women are going to feel attacked. Some of them of them of them >> because being told to breastfeed. >> because being told to breastfeed. >> because being told to breastfeed. >> Yeah. There's something like there's a >> Yeah. There's something like there's a >> Yeah. There's something like there's a judgment like if you didn't breastfeed judgment like if you didn't breastfeed judgment like if you didn't breastfeed your kids. And listen, I wasn't your kids. And listen, I wasn't your kids. And listen, I wasn't breastfed. My mom was basically starving breastfed. My mom was basically starving breastfed. My mom was basically starving me to death as a baby. She wasn't me to death as a baby. She wasn't me to death as a baby. She wasn't producing milk or the the actual real producing milk or the the actual real producing milk or the the actual real reason. I'll let my mom tell that story reason. I'll let my mom tell that story reason. I'll let my mom tell that story if she ever wants to tell, but she she if she ever wants to tell, but she she if she ever wants to tell, but she she literally could not breastfeed. literally could not breastfeed. literally could not breastfeed. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And so um I was starving. They took me >> And so um I was starving. They took me >> And so um I was starving. They took me into the doctor like, "Why is he not into the doctor like, "Why is he not into the doctor like, "Why is he not gaining weight?" They figured out the gaining weight?" They figured out the gaining weight?" They figured out the answer. They're like, "Okay, you're answer. They're like, "Okay, you're answer. They're like, "Okay, you're going to have to bottle feed." So, this going to have to bottle feed." So, this going to have to bottle feed." So, this isn't me like I'm not on a high and isn't me like I'm not on a high and isn't me like I'm not on a high and mighty horse. I'm like, "Damn." Like, I mighty horse. I'm like, "Damn." Like, I mighty horse. I'm like, "Damn." Like, I was raised on I was bottlefed. Had to was raised on I was bottlefed. Had to was raised on I was bottlefed. Had to be. be. be. >> Uh, so for sure, for sure. I don't have >> Uh, so for sure, for sure. I don't have >> Uh, so for sure, for sure. I don't have any shame that I'm throwing at anybody any shame that I'm throwing at anybody any shame that I'm throwing at anybody who uh can't for whatever reason. But who uh can't for whatever reason. But who uh can't for whatever reason. But from what I've seen in the science, like from what I've seen in the science, like from what I've seen in the science, like nature really got you on lock. Like, nature really got you on lock. Like, nature really got you on lock. Like, you're better off unless mom's drinking you're better off unless mom's drinking you're better off unless mom's drinking like Guinness or something. Like, you're like Guinness or something. Like, you're like Guinness or something. Like, you're better off with the breast. Get the better off with the breast. Get the better off with the breast. Get the breast. Get the breast. No judgment, breast. Get the breast. No judgment, breast. Get the breast. No judgment, moms. But get the breast. moms. But get the breast. moms. But get the breast. >> I think the most beautiful thing, and >> I think the most beautiful thing, and >> I think the most beautiful thing, and it's the last thing I'll say about this, it's the last thing I'll say about this, it's the last thing I'll say about this, is um when Lynn's mom was uh young, her is um when Lynn's mom was uh young, her is um when Lynn's mom was uh young, her um breast would naturally start to um breast would naturally start to um breast would naturally start to lactate when Lynn would cry. lactate when Lynn would cry. lactate when Lynn would cry. >> That is wild. >> That is wild. >> That is wild. >> And it's just the the invisible signals >> And it's just the the invisible signals >> And it's just the the invisible signals that just happen between the mother and that just happen between the mother and that just happen between the mother and the child are like, you can't tell me the child are like, you can't tell me the child are like, you can't tell me this was an accident. I don't this was an accident. I don't this was an accident. I don't >> Dude, that is Yeah. >> Dude, that is Yeah. >> Dude, that is Yeah. >> Yeah. That's not randomness. That's >> Yeah. That's not randomness. That's >> Yeah. That's not randomness. That's crazy. Yeah. crazy. Yeah. crazy. Yeah. >> That that is evolutionary design, man. >> That that is evolutionary design, man. >> That that is evolutionary design, man. >> It's crazy. >> It's crazy. >> It's crazy. >> Uh but yeah, >> Uh but yeah, >> Uh but yeah, >> so interesting. Uh, all right. Let's >> so interesting. Uh, all right. Let's >> so interesting. Uh, all right. Let's jump over to future tech. Um, I thought jump over to future tech. Um, I thought jump over to future tech. Um, I thought this was huge. This like made me like this was huge. This like made me like this was huge. This like made me like stand up in my chair. So, Apple and stand up in my chair. So, Apple and stand up in my chair. So, Apple and Google have entered into a multi-year Google have entered into a multi-year Google have entered into a multi-year collaboration for which the next collaboration for which the next collaboration for which the next generation of Apple foundational models generation of Apple foundational models generation of Apple foundational models will be based on Google's Gemini models will be based on Google's Gemini models will be based on Google's Gemini models and cloud technology. Uh, disclaimer, and cloud technology. Uh, disclaimer, and cloud technology. Uh, disclaimer, long story short, TLDDR uh Google Gemini long story short, TLDDR uh Google Gemini long story short, TLDDR uh Google Gemini will power Siri in the coming year. God, will power Siri in the coming year. God, will power Siri in the coming year. God, it's alleged that Apple's paying Google it's alleged that Apple's paying Google it's alleged that Apple's paying Google a billion dollars a year to like a billion dollars a year to like a billion dollars a year to like >> That feels light. I'm going be honest. >> That feels light. I'm going be honest. >> That feels light. I'm going be honest. Yeah, that was they'll make that back in Yeah, that was they'll make that back in Yeah, that was they'll make that back in like the first wave of pre-orders. Um, like the first wave of pre-orders. Um, like the first wave of pre-orders. Um, >> I cannot believe that Apple has been so >> I cannot believe that Apple has been so >> I cannot believe that Apple has been so trash at AI. Like it it is a crime trash at AI. Like it it is a crime trash at AI. Like it it is a crime against Steve Jobs. The level of offense against Steve Jobs. The level of offense against Steve Jobs. The level of offense that I feel on his behalf. that I feel on his behalf. that I feel on his behalf. >> I I feel like we need to have a real >> I I feel like we need to have a real >> I I feel like we need to have a real conversation about Apple. conversation about Apple. conversation about Apple. >> Let's have it >> Let's have it >> Let's have it >> because I seen the advertising for like, >> because I seen the advertising for like, >> because I seen the advertising for like, yay, 19 years of Apple. Look at all the yay, 19 years of Apple. Look at all the yay, 19 years of Apple. Look at all the progress we made. The home screening progress we made. The home screening progress we made. The home screening looks exactly the same. looks exactly the same. looks exactly the same. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> the flow looks the same. >> the flow looks the same. >> the flow looks the same. >> Dude, this is great man theory of >> Dude, this is great man theory of >> Dude, this is great man theory of history. Steve Jobs was Apple. You Steve history. Steve Jobs was Apple. You Steve history. Steve Jobs was Apple. You Steve Jobs founds Apple. They kick him out of Jobs founds Apple. They kick him out of Jobs founds Apple. They kick him out of the company. Apple turns to [ __ ] Steve the company. Apple turns to [ __ ] Steve the company. Apple turns to [ __ ] Steve Jobs comes back, takes Apple to the Jobs comes back, takes Apple to the Jobs comes back, takes Apple to the absolute pinnacle of corporate success, absolute pinnacle of corporate success, absolute pinnacle of corporate success, design success, product domination, all design success, product domination, all design success, product domination, all of it. Incredible. Steve Jobs dies, of it. Incredible. Steve Jobs dies, of it. Incredible. Steve Jobs dies, hands reigns to Tim Cook, and Tim Cook hands reigns to Tim Cook, and Tim Cook hands reigns to Tim Cook, and Tim Cook shows that Tim Cook is an operations shows that Tim Cook is an operations shows that Tim Cook is an operations genius. genius. genius. >> Unbelievable. >> Unbelievable. >> Unbelievable. Chef's kiss. and when he's reporting to Chef's kiss. and when he's reporting to Chef's kiss. and when he's reporting to a visionary, unbelievable pairing. Those a visionary, unbelievable pairing. Those a visionary, unbelievable pairing. Those two together did absolutely incredible two together did absolutely incredible two together did absolutely incredible things. I'm not taking anything away things. I'm not taking anything away things. I'm not taking anything away from uh Tim Cook, but what ends up from uh Tim Cook, but what ends up from uh Tim Cook, but what ends up happening to companies is they forget happening to companies is they forget happening to companies is they forget the very thing that made them good was the very thing that made them good was the very thing that made them good was you had a visionary leader who does a you had a visionary leader who does a you had a visionary leader who does a thing and if you just have a visionary thing and if you just have a visionary thing and if you just have a visionary leader, you get Delorean. They make a leader, you get Delorean. They make a leader, you get Delorean. They make a car, company collapses, trash. So, this car, company collapses, trash. So, this car, company collapses, trash. So, this is not me overesteeming the visionary. is not me overesteeming the visionary. is not me overesteeming the visionary. But if you only have an operator and you But if you only have an operator and you But if you only have an operator and you don't have a visionary, then you get don't have a visionary, then you get don't have a visionary, then you get what's happening to Apple now, which is what's happening to Apple now, which is what's happening to Apple now, which is you're able to produce pieces of [ __ ] you're able to produce pieces of [ __ ] you're able to produce pieces of [ __ ] very very efficiently. And these when I very very efficiently. And these when I very very efficiently. And these when I say these phones are declining in say these phones are declining in say these phones are declining in quality, bro. When when I got the latest quality, bro. When when I got the latest quality, bro. When when I got the latest iPhone and I saw the like liquid iPhone and I saw the like liquid iPhone and I saw the like liquid glassing, I was like, I need to punch glassing, I was like, I need to punch glassing, I was like, I need to punch someone at Apple like really hard. It is someone at Apple like really hard. It is someone at Apple like really hard. It is so absurd. It is self-evidently so absurd. It is self-evidently so absurd. It is self-evidently terrible. terrible. terrible. >> So, oh my god. Anyway, there's a book >> So, oh my god. Anyway, there's a book >> So, oh my god. Anyway, there's a book called Rocket Fuel which describes the called Rocket Fuel which describes the called Rocket Fuel which describes the relationship between a visionary and an relationship between a visionary and an relationship between a visionary and an executor and operator and how you need executor and operator and how you need executor and operator and how you need both to have a truly incredible company. both to have a truly incredible company. both to have a truly incredible company. And we're now witnessing Apple without And we're now witnessing Apple without And we're now witnessing Apple without the rocket. We're seeing the fuel, but the rocket. We're seeing the fuel, but the rocket. We're seeing the fuel, but there's no rocket. The these guys are there's no rocket. The these guys are there's no rocket. The these guys are they are going to um they are going to um they are going to um optimize their way to irrelevance. If optimize their way to irrelevance. If optimize their way to irrelevance. If they cannot attract the next generation they cannot attract the next generation they cannot attract the next generation of visionary talent to the company, they of visionary talent to the company, they of visionary talent to the company, they will become irrelevant very quickly will become irrelevant very quickly will become irrelevant very quickly because AI, dude, when at first I was because AI, dude, when at first I was because AI, dude, when at first I was like, "Oh, they must have like they're a like, "Oh, they must have like they're a like, "Oh, they must have like they're a year behind, but they've got some s year behind, but they've got some s year behind, but they've got some s super secret project. They're going to super secret project. They're going to super secret project. They're going to be coming out. Their AI is going to be be coming out. Their AI is going to be be coming out. Their AI is going to be better than everybody else's better than everybody else's better than everybody else's and it just never happened." And then and it just never happened." And then and it just never happened." And then they were like, "We're going to be they were like, "We're going to be they were like, "We're going to be powered, I think originally by Open AI." powered, I think originally by Open AI." powered, I think originally by Open AI." And it was like Siri's still [ __ ] And it was like Siri's still [ __ ] And it was like Siri's still [ __ ] So I was, "What is going on?" So, if it So I was, "What is going on?" So, if it So I was, "What is going on?" So, if it wasn't like you get so stuck inside of wasn't like you get so stuck inside of wasn't like you get so stuck inside of their ecosystem, I'd be very tempted to their ecosystem, I'd be very tempted to their ecosystem, I'd be very tempted to go elsewhere. Now, I will say that the go elsewhere. Now, I will say that the go elsewhere. Now, I will say that the um so they're a closed garden like the um so they're a closed garden like the um so they're a closed garden like the open wall ones like uh Google and all open wall ones like uh Google and all open wall ones like uh Google and all that stuff that run on Android, they that stuff that run on Android, they that stuff that run on Android, they have their own problems to be sure, but have their own problems to be sure, but have their own problems to be sure, but Apple's just fumbling the ball. Apple's just fumbling the ball. Apple's just fumbling the ball. >> Yeah. Um and then to your point, Open >> Yeah. Um and then to your point, Open >> Yeah. Um and then to your point, Open AI, Grock, um and Gemini were some of AI, Grock, um and Gemini were some of AI, Grock, um and Gemini were some of the ones that they were considering. Um the ones that they were considering. Um the ones that they were considering. Um Elon Musk didn't take the news well. He Elon Musk didn't take the news well. He Elon Musk didn't take the news well. He retweeted that this seems like an retweeted that this seems like an retweeted that this seems like an unreasonable concentration of power for unreasonable concentration of power for unreasonable concentration of power for Google given that they also have Android Google given that they also have Android Google given that they also have Android and Chrome. Um, and Chrome. Um, and Chrome. Um, >> he's not wrong about that, but like it >> he's not wrong about that, but like it >> he's not wrong about that, but like it does read salty. does read salty. does read salty. >> Yeah, there's a little bit of like Yeah, >> Yeah, there's a little bit of like Yeah, >> Yeah, there's a little bit of like Yeah, >> Elon, you're going to want want to let >> Elon, you're going to want want to let >> Elon, you're going to want want to let somebody else make that point because somebody else make that point because somebody else make that point because you sound like a jilted lover. Now, I you sound like a jilted lover. Now, I you sound like a jilted lover. Now, I will say will say will say >> I'm not fully committed, but I wrote my >> I'm not fully committed, but I wrote my >> I'm not fully committed, but I wrote my latest deep dive with Grock and not with latest deep dive with Grock and not with latest deep dive with Grock and not with Open AI. Open AI. Open AI. >> Oo, >> Oo, >> Oo, >> open AI. Uh, >> open AI. Uh, >> open AI. Uh, >> did they did they really fumble the bag? >> did they did they really fumble the bag? >> did they did they really fumble the bag? Are they really the n the netscape of AI Are they really the n the netscape of AI Are they really the n the netscape of AI right now? right now? right now? >> They violated my trust. >> They violated my trust. >> They violated my trust. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> So, I was writing a deep dive >> So, I was writing a deep dive >> So, I was writing a deep dive >> and or maybe a prep for a live show >> and or maybe a prep for a live show >> and or maybe a prep for a live show >> and there was a report that had come >> and there was a report that had come >> and there was a report that had come out. I saw video video footage like all out. I saw video video footage like all out. I saw video video footage like all of it. I don't remember what it was, but of it. I don't remember what it was, but of it. I don't remember what it was, but it was something so obvious like it was something so obvious like it was something so obvious like everybody knew that it was a real thing. everybody knew that it was a real thing. everybody knew that it was a real thing. >> And um it might have been the shooting >> And um it might have been the shooting >> And um it might have been the shooting of um Renee Good. I don't remember, but of um Renee Good. I don't remember, but of um Renee Good. I don't remember, but it was something where it's like, it was something where it's like, it was something where it's like, "Nobody disputes that it happened." And "Nobody disputes that it happened." And "Nobody disputes that it happened." And it was like, "That didn't happen." And I it was like, "That didn't happen." And I it was like, "That didn't happen." And I was like, "Yes, it did. Look at this was like, "Yes, it did. Look at this was like, "Yes, it did. Look at this video, this tweet." And it was like, video, this tweet." And it was like, video, this tweet." And it was like, "Nope, that never happened." "Nope, that never happened." "Nope, that never happened." >> And I was like, "Oh, man." It felt >> And I was like, "Oh, man." It felt >> And I was like, "Oh, man." It felt political. It felt like it was trying to political. It felt like it was trying to political. It felt like it was trying to be like I've been programmed behind the be like I've been programmed behind the be like I've been programmed behind the scenes to like scenes to like scenes to like >> move people to a certain like viewpoint. >> move people to a certain like viewpoint. >> move people to a certain like viewpoint. >> And it was the first time where I was >> And it was the first time where I was >> And it was the first time where I was like, "Oh, damn." Like I felt like I like, "Oh, damn." Like I felt like I like, "Oh, damn." Like I felt like I caught my girlfriend lying to me and I caught my girlfriend lying to me and I caught my girlfriend lying to me and I was like, "Oh, but I read your text. I was like, "Oh, but I read your text. I was like, "Oh, but I read your text. I know you did it." So that one I was know you did it." So that one I was know you did it." So that one I was like, "Let me just see like what Grock like, "Let me just see like what Grock like, "Let me just see like what Grock cuz I I was under time pressure." So I cuz I I was under time pressure." So I cuz I I was under time pressure." So I was like, "I don't have time to go and was like, "I don't have time to go and was like, "I don't have time to go and convince it that like no, this thing convince it that like no, this thing convince it that like no, this thing really happened. Stop [ __ ] around." really happened. Stop [ __ ] around." really happened. Stop [ __ ] around." And I just went to Grock and I was like, And I just went to Grock and I was like, And I just went to Grock and I was like, "Hey, I'm writing this saying on this. "Hey, I'm writing this saying on this. "Hey, I'm writing this saying on this. Like give me the breakdown of the Like give me the breakdown of the Like give me the breakdown of the facts." And it gave it to me and it was facts." And it gave it to me and it was facts." And it gave it to me and it was accurate. And I was like, "Holy shit." accurate. And I was like, "Holy shit." accurate. And I was like, "Holy shit." So then I was like, well, I don't really So then I was like, well, I don't really So then I was like, well, I don't really have time to [ __ ] around, so let me have time to [ __ ] around, so let me have time to [ __ ] around, so let me write this whole thing just using Grock. write this whole thing just using Grock. write this whole thing just using Grock. Did that. And then this was the first Did that. And then this was the first Did that. And then this was the first time where I went to write the deep dive time where I went to write the deep dive time where I went to write the deep dive and instead of going to my trusty custom and instead of going to my trusty custom and instead of going to my trusty custom GPT, GPT, GPT, I grabbed the files from the GPT, loaded I grabbed the files from the GPT, loaded I grabbed the files from the GPT, loaded it into Grock, and was like, this is it into Grock, and was like, this is it into Grock, and was like, this is your shot. Did a great job. your shot. Did a great job. your shot. Did a great job. >> So um it is it'll be interesting. I >> So um it is it'll be interesting. I >> So um it is it'll be interesting. I haven't tried Google's Gemini enough. haven't tried Google's Gemini enough. haven't tried Google's Gemini enough. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> But some people say that it's very good >> But some people say that it's very good >> But some people say that it's very good at writing as well, so I should at some at writing as well, so I should at some at writing as well, so I should at some point. Now that the spell has been point. Now that the spell has been point. Now that the spell has been broken for me away from chat, I I'll broken for me away from chat, I I'll broken for me away from chat, I I'll experiment with some others. experiment with some others. experiment with some others. >> But I was I was like a little I was sad. >> But I was I was like a little I was sad. >> But I was I was like a little I was sad. It felt like a a friend betraying me. It It felt like a a friend betraying me. It It felt like a a friend betraying me. It really did. It was bizarre. really did. It was bizarre. really did. It was bizarre. >> Uh still riding with Claude. Claude is >> Uh still riding with Claude. Claude is >> Uh still riding with Claude. Claude is my favorite. Uh, but it it does seem my favorite. Uh, but it it does seem my favorite. Uh, but it it does seem like we need to talk about open AI as like we need to talk about open AI as like we need to talk about open AI as kind of fall from grace cuz 3 years ago kind of fall from grace cuz 3 years ago kind of fall from grace cuz 3 years ago they were 100% market share, they were they were 100% market share, they were they were 100% market share, they were chat bots. They were chat bots. They were chat bots. They were >> they were AI. >> they were AI. >> they were AI. >> They were AI. >> They were AI. >> They were AI. >> Um, and now just with the increased >> Um, and now just with the increased >> Um, and now just with the increased competition, it seems like they just competition, it seems like they just competition, it seems like they just gotten replaced. So, gotten replaced. So, gotten replaced. So, >> well, they've always been trash at >> well, they've always been trash at >> well, they've always been trash at images, images, images, >> so they weren't doing themselves any >> so they weren't doing themselves any >> so they weren't doing themselves any favors there. Um, their custom GPTs are favors there. Um, their custom GPTs are favors there. Um, their custom GPTs are awesome and I do still use those. So, awesome and I do still use those. So, awesome and I do still use those. So, don't count them out, but this is how don't count them out, but this is how don't count them out, but this is how competition works. You get, call it an competition works. You get, call it an competition works. You get, call it an 18-month head start, and then if what 18-month head start, and then if what 18-month head start, and then if what you're doing is big, then people are you're doing is big, then people are you're doing is big, then people are going to flood into the system. I going to flood into the system. I going to flood into the system. I remember when we first launched Quest, remember when we first launched Quest, remember when we first launched Quest, we looked so different than everybody we looked so different than everybody we looked so different than everybody else. Everybody else was red and black else. Everybody else was red and black else. Everybody else was red and black and color schemes in the industry and color schemes in the industry and color schemes in the industry >> because it was largely aimed at >> because it was largely aimed at >> because it was largely aimed at bodybuilders. And so, everybody's red bodybuilders. And so, everybody's red bodybuilders. And so, everybody's red and black and they did what we called and black and they did what we called and black and they did what we called veins and chains marketing. So, it was veins and chains marketing. So, it was veins and chains marketing. So, it was always big guys, red and black color always big guys, red and black color always big guys, red and black color scheme, gigantic muscles, their veins scheme, gigantic muscles, their veins scheme, gigantic muscles, their veins everywhere, and they would literally everywhere, and they would literally everywhere, and they would literally have chains draped around their neck. have chains draped around their neck. have chains draped around their neck. And that was what all the competing And that was what all the competing And that was what all the competing brands look like that were marketing to brands look like that were marketing to brands look like that were marketing to bodybuilders because our first market bodybuilders because our first market bodybuilders because our first market was bodybuilders. was bodybuilders. was bodybuilders. And so, we did something totally And so, we did something totally And so, we did something totally different. We went food porn. Uh, and I different. We went food porn. Uh, and I different. We went food porn. Uh, and I became obsessed with getting what we became obsessed with getting what we became obsessed with getting what we would now call impact theory blue. Uh, would now call impact theory blue. Uh, would now call impact theory blue. Uh, and I'd done like this research on color and I'd done like this research on color and I'd done like this research on color and making people feel creative and it and making people feel creative and it and making people feel creative and it feeling like something that would appeal feeling like something that would appeal feeling like something that would appeal to both men and women. And women ended to both men and women. And women ended to both men and women. And women ended up being a huge part of um what made us up being a huge part of um what made us up being a huge part of um what made us so financially successful. They control so financially successful. They control so financially successful. They control all the shopping dollars. So anyway, uh all the shopping dollars. So anyway, uh all the shopping dollars. So anyway, uh when we first would go to bodybuilding when we first would go to bodybuilding when we first would go to bodybuilding like events and we had a booth there, we like events and we had a booth there, we like events and we had a booth there, we stood out like a sore thumb. Every you stood out like a sore thumb. Every you stood out like a sore thumb. Every you very easy to find us. 18 months later, I very easy to find us. 18 months later, I very easy to find us. 18 months later, I walked to the wrong booth because walked to the wrong booth because walked to the wrong booth because somebody had so mimicked our brand that somebody had so mimicked our brand that somebody had so mimicked our brand that out of the corner of my eye, I just out of the corner of my eye, I just out of the corner of my eye, I just assumed it was us. And I was like, "Oh, assumed it was us. And I was like, "Oh, assumed it was us. And I was like, "Oh, damn." So, it's like really happening. damn." So, it's like really happening. damn." So, it's like really happening. Then people start like hiring people. Then people start like hiring people. Then people start like hiring people. So, they hire somebody to go work at So, they hire somebody to go work at So, they hire somebody to go work at Quest. So, their job is to get a job at Quest. So, their job is to get a job at Quest. So, their job is to get a job at Quest, learn our manufacturing Quest, learn our manufacturing Quest, learn our manufacturing techniques, and then leave. It's called techniques, and then leave. It's called techniques, and then leave. It's called corporate espionage. And so, we had corporate espionage. And so, we had corporate espionage. And so, we had that. It was really, it started getting that. It was really, it started getting that. It was really, it started getting wild. And so people started mimicking wild. And so people started mimicking wild. And so people started mimicking our engineering and our product design. our engineering and our product design. our engineering and our product design. And so yeah, it's just such as the And so yeah, it's just such as the And so yeah, it's just such as the nature of a competition, you got to stay nature of a competition, you got to stay nature of a competition, you got to stay ahead of everybody. Uh and OpenAI is ahead of everybody. Uh and OpenAI is ahead of everybody. Uh and OpenAI is learning that all too uh directly. And I learning that all too uh directly. And I learning that all too uh directly. And I know Elon for sure and I think Zuck did know Elon for sure and I think Zuck did know Elon for sure and I think Zuck did it as well. But people were just sniping it as well. But people were just sniping it as well. But people were just sniping their talent their talent their talent >> and that's where it gets really hard. >> and that's where it gets really hard. >> and that's where it gets really hard. And so now they went from like being the And so now they went from like being the And so now they went from like being the place that every smart AI person wanted place that every smart AI person wanted place that every smart AI person wanted to go work and now there's, you know, to go work and now there's, you know, to go work and now there's, you know, legitimately six or seven other legitimately six or seven other legitimately six or seven other companies that are doing interesting companies that are doing interesting companies that are doing interesting things in AI. And so that talent pool is things in AI. And so that talent pool is things in AI. And so that talent pool is now being spread out. now being spread out. now being spread out. >> Yeah. Um it's it's very interesting >> Yeah. Um it's it's very interesting >> Yeah. Um it's it's very interesting because it seems like OpenAI is going because it seems like OpenAI is going because it seems like OpenAI is going all in on this uh hardware project. Um all in on this uh hardware project. Um all in on this uh hardware project. Um so from latest reports is that is so from latest reports is that is so from latest reports is that is something that's going to replace like a something that's going to replace like a something that's going to replace like a AirPod called Sweet Pea. It's supposed AirPod called Sweet Pea. It's supposed AirPod called Sweet Pea. It's supposed to be basically a smartphone in your to be basically a smartphone in your to be basically a smartphone in your ear, but I'm I'm sure they're going to ear, but I'm I'm sure they're going to ear, but I'm I'm sure they're going to lean into the um the translations and lean into the um the translations and lean into the um the translations and that type of real world interaction kind that type of real world interaction kind that type of real world interaction kind of looking like her um like the her of looking like her um like the her of looking like her um like the her ecosystem. So, I mean, do you think ecosystem. So, I mean, do you think ecosystem. So, I mean, do you think hardware can save them and maybe that's hardware can save them and maybe that's hardware can save them and maybe that's where they differentiate because where they differentiate because where they differentiate because everybody could be a chat? everybody could be a chat? everybody could be a chat? >> Nothing is ever going to be a forever >> Nothing is ever going to be a forever >> Nothing is ever going to be a forever thing. So, I think honestly thing. So, I think honestly thing. So, I think honestly infrastructure is the thing that's going infrastructure is the thing that's going infrastructure is the thing that's going to save them. So, as long as they don't to save them. So, as long as they don't to save them. So, as long as they don't run out of the ability to raise capital, run out of the ability to raise capital, run out of the ability to raise capital, they're going to be fine. um they're they're going to be fine. um they're they're going to be fine. um they're embedded with the US government or at embedded with the US government or at embedded with the US government or at least they were with whatever project least they were with whatever project least they were with whatever project Stargate or whatever it was called. Uh Stargate or whatever it was called. Uh Stargate or whatever it was called. Uh so assuming that that's actually real so assuming that that's actually real so assuming that that's actually real and still moving that gives them a very and still moving that gives them a very and still moving that gives them a very defensible position. This is another defensible position. This is another defensible position. This is another great thing if they can generate real great thing if they can generate real great thing if they can generate real revenue off of these things even if it revenue off of these things even if it revenue off of these things even if it doesn't end up being the final solution. doesn't end up being the final solution. doesn't end up being the final solution. if it's like the first big wave and it if it's like the first big wave and it if it's like the first big wave and it buys them three to five years um of you buys them three to five years um of you buys them three to five years um of you know billions and billions of dollars of know billions and billions of dollars of know billions and billions of dollars of revenue um that could be a very big win revenue um that could be a very big win revenue um that could be a very big win for them but they'll have to keep for them but they'll have to keep for them but they'll have to keep reinventing because then just like with reinventing because then just like with reinventing because then just like with the iPhone then uh a bunch of people the iPhone then uh a bunch of people the iPhone then uh a bunch of people started making smartphones so um you do started making smartphones so um you do started making smartphones so um you do want to go in grab market share early want to go in grab market share early want to go in grab market share early Peter Teal talks about this competition Peter Teal talks about this competition Peter Teal talks about this competition is for suckers so it's like they're is for suckers so it's like they're is for suckers so it's like they're going to want to go into this white going to want to go into this white going to want to go into this white space nobody else is there claim space nobody else is there claim space nobody else is there claim dominance uh and then hopefully they'll dominance uh and then hopefully they'll dominance uh and then hopefully they'll be able to gobble up enough market share be able to gobble up enough market share be able to gobble up enough market share that they can establish themselves as that they can establish themselves as that they can establish themselves as truly dominant that they'll always be truly dominant that they'll always be truly dominant that they'll always be the one that people think of. I think the one that people think of. I think the one that people think of. I think they still have that lead from an AI they still have that lead from an AI they still have that lead from an AI perspective. Like when my mom thinks of perspective. Like when my mom thinks of perspective. Like when my mom thinks of AI, AI, AI, >> she thinks of >> she thinks of >> she thinks of >> open AI. Yeah, Ched GBT. So, um there's >> open AI. Yeah, Ched GBT. So, um there's >> open AI. Yeah, Ched GBT. So, um there's they still have huge advantages with they still have huge advantages with they still have huge advantages with that. But if people like Elon that just that. But if people like Elon that just that. But if people like Elon that just moves at a rate that other people just moves at a rate that other people just moves at a rate that other people just cannot keep up with is able to make cannot keep up with is able to make cannot keep up with is able to make Grock better than everything else by Grock better than everything else by Grock better than everything else by meaningful margin, then he could really meaningful margin, then he could really meaningful margin, then he could really begin to, you know, steal share over the begin to, you know, steal share over the begin to, you know, steal share over the next call 18 months to three years. next call 18 months to three years. next call 18 months to three years. We'll see. It's hard. We'll see. It's hard. We'll see. It's hard. >> And they just announced the mega cluster >> And they just announced the mega cluster >> And they just announced the mega cluster in Miss Mississippi, too. Uh Grock did. in Miss Mississippi, too. Uh Grock did. in Miss Mississippi, too. Uh Grock did. So yeah, it's going to be crazy. It's So yeah, it's going to be crazy. It's So yeah, it's going to be crazy. It's going to be crazy. All right. Um going to be crazy. All right. Um going to be crazy. All right. Um >> engineering, sorry, real fast. A PSA. >> engineering, sorry, real fast. A PSA. >> engineering, sorry, real fast. A PSA. This is one if you're at home, lean in. This is one if you're at home, lean in. This is one if you're at home, lean in. uh stay close to the engineers. uh stay close to the engineers. uh stay close to the engineers. That's like when I really try to analyze That's like when I really try to analyze That's like when I really try to analyze what makes him so different. He what makes him so different. He what makes him so different. He understands the engineering. That's very understands the engineering. That's very understands the engineering. That's very important. And he stays close to the important. And he stays close to the important. And he stays close to the engineers. So with Kaizen, the video engineers. So with Kaizen, the video engineers. So with Kaizen, the video game that we're building, I'm now game that we're building, I'm now game that we're building, I'm now learning how to actually do the learning how to actually do the learning how to actually do the engineering, not because I expect to be engineering, not because I expect to be engineering, not because I expect to be writing C++ code. I don't. But I want to writing C++ code. I don't. But I want to writing C++ code. I don't. But I want to be able to understand where the be able to understand where the be able to understand where the limitations are. And to do that, I've limitations are. And to do that, I've limitations are. And to do that, I've got to go in and actually start making got to go in and actually start making got to go in and actually start making changes to the game. I'm not doing it changes to the game. I'm not doing it changes to the game. I'm not doing it the level of code. I'm doing it the the level of code. I'm doing it the the level of code. I'm doing it the level of um Unreal Engine blueprints. level of um Unreal Engine blueprints. level of um Unreal Engine blueprints. But still being able to go in and edit But still being able to go in and edit But still being able to go in and edit the data tables myself, being able to the data tables myself, being able to the data tables myself, being able to change the blueprints myself. Like that change the blueprints myself. Like that change the blueprints myself. Like that kind of stuff, I think is going to go a kind of stuff, I think is going to go a kind of stuff, I think is going to go a long way towards a not being bamboozled. long way towards a not being bamboozled. long way towards a not being bamboozled. So if somebody tells me, "Oh, that takes So if somebody tells me, "Oh, that takes So if somebody tells me, "Oh, that takes a long time. Hold on, why don't we just a long time. Hold on, why don't we just a long time. Hold on, why don't we just do this, this, or this?" Uh when you've do this, this, or this?" Uh when you've do this, this, or this?" Uh when you've got other options, it's very, very got other options, it's very, very got other options, it's very, very helpful. Um so yeah, so often I see helpful. Um so yeah, so often I see helpful. Um so yeah, so often I see people think to themselves, well, that's people think to themselves, well, that's people think to themselves, well, that's not really what I do. you know, I'll not really what I do. you know, I'll not really what I do. you know, I'll leave that to those guys. But the more leave that to those guys. But the more leave that to those guys. But the more that you understand it, especially that you understand it, especially that you understand it, especially engineering, the more that you don't get engineering, the more that you don't get engineering, the more that you don't get trapped in, well, this is how it's trapped in, well, this is how it's trapped in, well, this is how it's always done. The more you don't get always done. The more you don't get always done. The more you don't get trapped in analogy, can actually get trapped in analogy, can actually get trapped in analogy, can actually get down to first principles thinking down to first principles thinking down to first principles thinking because you understand how these things because you understand how these things because you understand how these things are built. Um, so yeah, anyway, no are built. Um, so yeah, anyway, no are built. Um, so yeah, anyway, no matter what you're doing in life, matter what you're doing in life, matter what you're doing in life, getting to that stage is going to be getting to that stage is going to be getting to that stage is going to be very important. very important. very important. Uh, and last but not least, uh, Donald Uh, and last but not least, uh, Donald Uh, and last but not least, uh, Donald Trump had some colorful words for a, uh, Trump had some colorful words for a, uh, Trump had some colorful words for a, uh, worker at a Ford plant yesterday. Th worker at a Ford plant yesterday. Th worker at a Ford plant yesterday. Th >> This is wild, especially because it's a >> This is wild, especially because it's a >> This is wild, especially because it's a working-class guy. I'm very surprised. >> So, if you're not looking at your >> So, if you're not looking at your screen, the guy yelled, "You're a screen, the guy yelled, "You're a screen, the guy yelled, "You're a pedophile protector." And Trump mouth, pedophile protector." And Trump mouth, pedophile protector." And Trump mouth, he points at him and then mouths to him, he points at him and then mouths to him, he points at him and then mouths to him, "Fuck you." And then gives him the "Fuck you." And then gives him the "Fuck you." And then gives him the middle finger. This is the president of middle finger. This is the president of middle finger. This is the president of the United States. Listen, if you're the United States. Listen, if you're the United States. Listen, if you're going to be in a populist moment, be be going to be in a populist moment, be be going to be in a populist moment, be be full populist. I guess full populist. I guess full populist. I guess >> it's this part right here. It's this >> it's this part right here. It's this >> it's this part right here. It's this part right here. And then he like waves. part right here. And then he like waves. part right here. And then he like waves. See? See? See? >> No, the middle finger was not to the >> No, the middle finger was not to the >> No, the middle finger was not to the floor. The middle finger was to that floor. The middle finger was to that floor. The middle finger was to that guy. Like that's guy. Like that's guy. Like that's >> Yes. Trump is not afraid to be petty as >> Yes. Trump is not afraid to be petty as >> Yes. Trump is not afraid to be petty as all hell. I don't know. I have to say all hell. I don't know. I have to say all hell. I don't know. I have to say that there is something about that part that there is something about that part that there is something about that part of his personality that I like. So of his personality that I like. So of his personality that I like. So pettiness, pettiness, pettiness, >> the I'm just going to be human and if >> the I'm just going to be human and if >> the I'm just going to be human and if you're a dick to me, then I'm going to you're a dick to me, then I'm going to you're a dick to me, then I'm going to be a dick. Whatever. It's just there's a be a dick. Whatever. It's just there's a be a dick. Whatever. It's just there's a level of transparency. So like Trump, he level of transparency. So like Trump, he level of transparency. So like Trump, he can keep secrets. There's no doubt about can keep secrets. There's no doubt about can keep secrets. There's no doubt about that. But he reveals so much more than that. But he reveals so much more than that. But he reveals so much more than the average politician because he just the average politician because he just the average politician because he just says the thing. And so then you can says the thing. And so then you can says the thing. And so then you can decide, do I like that we're doing this decide, do I like that we're doing this decide, do I like that we're doing this thing or not? You don't have to wonder. thing or not? You don't have to wonder. thing or not? You don't have to wonder. I want control of Venezuela's oil. So we I want control of Venezuela's oil. So we I want control of Venezuela's oil. So we went in and we snatched up the dictator. went in and we snatched up the dictator. went in and we snatched up the dictator. Aren't you supposed to lie or like Aren't you supposed to lie or like Aren't you supposed to lie or like offiscate that? No, no, no. We went in offiscate that? No, no, no. We went in offiscate that? No, no, no. We went in because we can. We snatched them up. We because we can. We snatched them up. We because we can. We snatched them up. We now control the oil. Who's the president now control the oil. Who's the president now control the oil. Who's the president of or who's running uh Venezuela? I'm of or who's running uh Venezuela? I'm of or who's running uh Venezuela? I'm the de facto president. It's like, damn. the de facto president. It's like, damn. the de facto president. It's like, damn. Like, he just says the thing. And so, Like, he just says the thing. And so, Like, he just says the thing. And so, there is something that feels far less there is something that feels far less there is something that feels far less alien about that. Obviously, if you've alien about that. Obviously, if you've alien about that. Obviously, if you've been here since the beginning of this been here since the beginning of this been here since the beginning of this live, you know that I have serious beef live, you know that I have serious beef live, you know that I have serious beef with his diplomacy. Uh, but I would be with his diplomacy. Uh, but I would be with his diplomacy. Uh, but I would be lying if I said I don't chuckle to lying if I said I don't chuckle to lying if I said I don't chuckle to myself when I see him do stuff like myself when I see him do stuff like myself when I see him do stuff like that. It's very unpresidential, but it's that. It's very unpresidential, but it's that. It's very unpresidential, but it's still funny. still funny. still funny. >> We shall see. We shall see. Um, yeah. I >> We shall see. We shall see. Um, yeah. I >> We shall see. We shall see. Um, yeah. I guess the the plan I don't know if I if guess the the plan I don't know if I if guess the the plan I don't know if I if you're the CEO and like would do you say you're the CEO and like would do you say you're the CEO and like would do you say something? Do you just let him do it? something? Do you just let him do it? something? Do you just let him do it? Like Like Like >> you just let him do it because you >> you just let him do it because you >> you just let him do it because you understand that am I going to make a understand that am I going to make a understand that am I going to make a stand on that? stand on that? stand on that? >> Probably not. Uh, depending on your >> Probably not. Uh, depending on your >> Probably not. Uh, depending on your relationship with him, you might tease relationship with him, you might tease relationship with him, you might tease him or whatever, or depending on who you him or whatever, or depending on who you him or whatever, or depending on who you are, you might find that guy and get him are, you might find that guy and get him are, you might find that guy and get him fired. Like, who knows? I have no idea fired. Like, who knows? I have no idea fired. Like, who knows? I have no idea what the CEO of Ford is like, but that what the CEO of Ford is like, but that what the CEO of Ford is like, but that the guy yelled like, you get the the guy yelled like, you get the the guy yelled like, you get the president to come to your factory, which president to come to your factory, which president to come to your factory, which is a big win. It gives you an is a big win. It gives you an is a big win. It gives you an opportunity to be in his ear to opportunity to be in his ear to opportunity to be in his ear to potentially uh know where the US is potentially uh know where the US is potentially uh know where the US is going from a policy perspective and going from a policy perspective and going from a policy perspective and position yourself that way, win a position yourself that way, win a position yourself that way, win a contract that might be advantageous to contract that might be advantageous to contract that might be advantageous to the company. And so to have a guy the company. And so to have a guy the company. And so to have a guy yelling some [ __ ] out like that is a far yelling some [ __ ] out like that is a far yelling some [ __ ] out like that is a far cry from my deal. It's like keep your cry from my deal. It's like keep your cry from my deal. It's like keep your [ __ ] politics to yourself like we're [ __ ] politics to yourself like we're [ __ ] politics to yourself like we're trying to do something that's good for trying to do something that's good for trying to do something that's good for the company which will then be good for the company which will then be good for the company which will then be good for you. So um yeah I I would also have beef you. So um yeah I I would also have beef you. So um yeah I I would also have beef with that guy. But my response would be with that guy. But my response would be with that guy. But my response would be to say I want to see that guy and I want to say I want to see that guy and I want to say I want to see that guy and I want to talk to him and I want to address the to talk to him and I want to address the to talk to him and I want to address the company as a whole and say listen company as a whole and say listen company as a whole and say listen understand that we live in a country understand that we live in a country understand that we live in a country that has um policies that can hurt or that has um policies that can hurt or that has um policies that can hurt or advantage us that have contracts that we advantage us that have contracts that we advantage us that have contracts that we might be able to bid for that could hurt might be able to bid for that could hurt might be able to bid for that could hurt or if we lose could disadvantage us. Uh or if we lose could disadvantage us. Uh or if we lose could disadvantage us. Uh and so we need to be thoughtful about and so we need to be thoughtful about and so we need to be thoughtful about our own diplomacy. And so you guys our own diplomacy. And so you guys our own diplomacy. And so you guys acting a fool and yelling at somebody acting a fool and yelling at somebody acting a fool and yelling at somebody that could help us do something good that could help us do something good that could help us do something good with the company, that's crazy. That's with the company, that's crazy. That's with the company, that's crazy. That's self-defeating. I'm certainly not going self-defeating. I'm certainly not going self-defeating. I'm certainly not going to fire the guy, such as my way. But um to fire the guy, such as my way. But um to fire the guy, such as my way. But um I am not going to pretend that it didn't I am not going to pretend that it didn't I am not going to pretend that it didn't happen. happen. happen. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> somebody literally asked that question, >> somebody literally asked that question, >> somebody literally asked that question, would you fire that guy? But no, you would you fire that guy? But no, you would you fire that guy? But no, you wouldn't. Got it. wouldn't. Got it. wouldn't. Got it. >> Not my style. All right, everybody. >> Not my style. All right, everybody. >> Not my style. All right, everybody. Thank you so much for joining us. We are Thank you so much for joining us. We are Thank you so much for joining us. We are here three days a week. If you have not here three days a week. If you have not here three days a week. If you have not already, be sure to subscribe so you already, be sure to subscribe so you already, be sure to subscribe so you know when we go live. Hit that know when we go live. 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