BENNY BLANCO, LIL DICKY, KRISTIN Reveal This Fact About Their Weddings (Nobody Knows This)

Key Takeaway

Dave officiated his best friend Benny's wedding, experiencing their vows from the perfect vantage point. The moment taught him that vulnerability creates deeper connections - watching Benny's face transform into 'a shell of a man' during the ceremony revealed emotions he'd never seen in years of friendship. Action: Create moments where you can witness (and share) genuine emotion with close friends, not just humor.

Episode Overview

Dave, Kristen, and Benny share the story of how their friendships evolved into family. Dave and Kristen discuss their unconventional early dating period, where Kristen's direct communication about wanting marriage contrasted with Dave's initial resistance. The trio reveals how their respective relationships developed in parallel, culminating in weddings a month apart where Dave officiated Benny's ceremony. The conversation explores modern dating dynamics, the importance of authenticity in relationships, and how genuine friendships can create supportive foundations for romantic partnerships.

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Friends on purpose on three. 1 2 3. Friends on purpose. I thought you thought that was being loserish. loserish. loserish. I do. I do. I do. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right. We just are born to be best friends. Me and Benny met at this Mexican restaurant and he said, "What can you bring to the table?" And I was like, "What?" "What?" "What?" I thought he's so sweet and he's so himself. And he told me a story that lasted 40 minutes. The story was about me pooping my pants.

And you chose that because it's my funniest best story. What was your favorite thing about Benny and Selena's wedding? Dave officiated Dave officiated Dave officiated to see Benny break when Selena when the curtain got revealed and she his face was like Benny Dave Kristen. Welcome to On Purpose. Purpose. Purpose. Hey Jay. Hey Jay. Hey Jay. Hi Hi Hi Benny. Come on. Come on. Hey. Hey. Hey. Did you know this is the first time we've had three people on the show together? First ever time. Did you know that that that this is the first time someone has come on their own with their fiance, then wife, and now with their best friends.

So, we've never done that before either. You're breaking all sorts of records. You're competing with Michelle Obama, who's been on the show twice. You've been on three times. This is your third time. So, time. So, time. So, Dave, I'm a huge fan. Always have been. The first time I met you. I I I've known you for maybe under a year, but I love you. Oh, thank you. It's been Ever since I've met you, I've loved you. loved you. loved you. Wow. Thank you. Notice how he doesn't say it back.

I know he loves me, but but I said it already. Yeah, he said he just said he did. did. did. He did. I was caught up in his eyes. It's very hard very hard to look. And Kristen, I've become a huge fan of you. I can't believe that. I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad we're here. we're here. we're here. I'm glad that you still like me. But honestly, the guys, this is awesome. It's so great to have all three of you in the room. I I actually want to know how you all three met because I have no idea.

I don't think I've ever asked you that before. Well, I I guess I'm the glue between the two of the three, you know. I met Benny. He basically from the day I put any music out, he actually the first day I released anything, he tweeted like something uh positive about me. me. me. Wow. Wow. Wow. Yeah. So, he like it was, you know, what a first day to have a guy like him reach out. out. out. And then I Yeah. I like said something. We like kind of communicated back and forth a little bit and then we almost saw each other one of my concerts.

We didn't really hang out. And then I don't the first time we met. No, we don't know. We don't know for sure when the very fir we can't place it. My memory of like the first uh real memory I have is we met at this uh Mexican restaurant and I think he was maybe trying to sign me or maybe just trying to explain the value that he could add to my life and my career and I really didn't see any value added potential. potential. potential. That's what he said.

It was like a date. Did he Did he say that? Yeah. He said, he said, "Well, what what can you bring to the table?" And I was like, "What?" That was like his first thing he said to me. Now, in hindsight, I was totally wrong. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What can I bring to the table? He brings everything. Best friend, all of your night life. night life. night life. How did you bring him over? How did you win him over? Just proof in the pudding. I think it was instant.

Also, independent of our respective talents merging and being able to add to each other's talent careers, we would be best friends if we were like in Arkansas and we both were plumbers. You know what I mean? like we just are born to be best friends. And then I met Kristen years later and then they met because wait I want to know how Yeah. Don't just detail. detail. detail. You tell you tell the story. I met Kristen years later. Uh bowling alley a writer on my TV show Vanessa kind of set us up and Kristen didn't know that I was going to more or less scout me.

scout me. scout me. Scout her. Scout her. Scout her. I was being scouted as a romantic. Not not for the show as a romantic partner. I always told Vanessa cuz I love this woman, Vanessa, who's one of the main writers on my show and she's a great person. I always said, "Keep it." Cuz I was just a hopeless romantic single guy for like a decade. And I would say, "Don't you have any friends? Don't you know anybody?" And then she would say, "Yeah, I'm looking around." And then Kristen had been in a relationship for pretty much her whole life.

And then she kind of got single for like a 3-w weekek period. And then Vanessa was bowling with her and she realized, "Oh my god, Dave." And then she texted me while she was at the alley being like, "Hey, I don't know what you're doing." It was like 10 p.m. and she was like, "I don't know what you're doing, but I'm with someone who might be your wife." And I dropped everything I was doing and immediately went over there late, joined them late. They were already done bowling by the time I got there.

So, I got to take everyone's turn. And then we just started talking about nachos. Didn't you bowl a strike? I bri I bowled a strike. First thing I did, I bowled a strike. Like, that was my first my first my first How did you pull that out? I just I'm a good athlete. High level athlete. athlete. athlete. Oh, you didn't see I didn't see it. So I I think I was doing my own thing, chatting up the group. group. group. Yeah, she was doing her own thing.

Then then we started talking about uh I remember one of the first things I said to her were like, "What are those?" And I pointed to a plate of nachos and she said, "Those are nachos." And I said, "I know. I'm just making small talk." I liked that. I thought that was such a good like uh intro. Yeah. And that was his first intro. Like it was Yeah. I mean, he sat down next to me and said, "What are those?" And I liked that he was like, "I'm just making small talk." I feel like it was like the intro into his personality.

And you were trying. That was like Oh, yeah. Instantly I saw her and I was like, "Oh my god, Vanessa, good call." Well, no. You said you didn't like it cuz I was wearing glasses. I said it wasn't love at first sight. I was going to ask, was it an instant connection for both? Because she was wearing these big glasses, so I couldn't see her face. I haven't seen you in Yeah. She doesn't often wear glasses. I was going through a lot and I was wearing the same clothes for like two weeks straight.

And this was my first venture out. venture out. venture out. Yeah. Not shades like No, they were like re because it was I think I drove there. Yeah. She drove me home home home cuz she was she never lives in Venice or lived in Venice and I was living in Venice and she happened to be staying in an Airbnb for that week in Venice. So, it only made sense for her to be like, "Can I get a ride home?" So, then I had like an extra 40-minute ride where we just talked.

just talked. just talked. No, he he told me a story that lasted 40 minutes. minutes. minutes. Really? Really? Really? What was the story? I thought he's so sweet and he's so himself and I was like I was really happy to I felt like you had such an ease to you that was rare. like you were really willing to be like um vulnerable, but I also was like the story's very long. long. long. The story was about me pooping my pants and you chose that because it's my best it's my funniest best story, story, story, but it was like him talking the entire the entire practiced.

It's like a 15-inute story. And I was like, "Yeah, I've said it so many times." And then, ironically, I believe that you guys probably met for the first time at a bowling alley because right remember remember right before remember for my TV show premiere season one, I had all my friends come in from out of town and we all met at the bowling alley the one time and Kristen was there and I was like, like, like, "Don't make it that like don't say anything that I don't want you to say." You remember that?

Uh maybe. I remember two times specifically. I remember once like in the very beginning of the relationship. I remember once after your actual premiere and we like all walked up to my house. I remember that time and I remember like in in that time being like this girl's really cool. I was like like nothing not thinking like was your first impression when he's like meet my girlfriend. No no no no no. They was not his girlfriend. It was a girl he was like no it was a in my mind I was his girlfriend.

girlfriend. girlfriend. In your mind it was official. And then now you find is this the first time you find out about and then the turning point really in their relationship I think was that night at like our birthday party that was like that was I remember it so clearly I do I do what it was for you Kristen. Uh Uh Uh you remember it differently. That's a bad memory. It wasn't it was a it wasn't the best you weren't the you weren't like exhibiting the best behavior.

No I was lashing out. Do you want to hear what happened? J please. I do want to hear what happened. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We It was We met in like January 31st. We had our birthday party like 6 weeks later. We have joint birthday parties every year. And look, what I'm about to say is pathetic, but they really were like the Super Bowl of like being a single man. Like I I never would even have a I never would even throw myself a birthday party if it weren't for Benny.

So now all of a sudden every year I'm having like the most upscale birthday parties planned by him completely where all these people and women come and they know it's like my party and like so there's just this building icebreaker where like people want to come up to me and talk to me and I just had this feeling that we were going to start dating and I you know if you know me you know that I have trouble like wrapping my head around uh not necessarily commitment but just like I'm a turnover over every stone kind of guy in everything I do.

And it really the stone was here. There's nothing else to turn over. Now, as I continue to tell the story, I want you to know that I'm ashamed of my behavior. This is not something that I'm proud of. proud of. proud of. But I think I just knew that we were going to end up dating and but it was too early to be like I didn't have to commit yet to be quite honest, which is a really misogynistic thing to say. And I knew that I didn't have to commit.

And I also knew my days were numbered of of having romantic freedom because I felt like I was about to be totally in a committed relationship. And I think I don't know. I just kind of like overreacted and for whatever reason I went into the night being like I'm not committed to Kristen tonight. We're not I'm not necessarily going home with Kristen tonight. I'm going to do my own thing. thing. thing. But can I cuz I didn't do You're making it seem like I went in there being like we have to be we're married.

No, she didn't do anything. I'd like to hear Kristen. went in there with like I think there was like seven of girlfriends of mine and I played it. So like I don't like to play it cool. It's very hard for me to play it cool. I'm glad that Benny thought I was cool when he first met me, but that's not me. Um and so I was like, "Okay, well this is fun. I like a party. I'm just going to be like free and not expect anything from him." So I didn't all night.

And then as the night came to an end, it was kind of like, well, we all know the expectation that we're going to like hang out if we haven't hung out yet. And he just had such a like um you had such a I knew exactly what he was doing. Like I could sense what he was doing and then I think I was like well this is lame and then it got into a little bit of a like like like I would say at the end a flirt battle.

I'd like to interject I'd like I'd like to interject. to interject. to interject. She started talking to other guys and talking to other girls. I'd like to interject at this moment. There was a flirt battle going on back and forth and it was like so strange. It was like Yeah. It was like so strange and and childish in the moment. moment. moment. It's like a scene out of a movie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And we were in such a small area cuz now it was like the afterparty.

It was like such a like it was like 50 people total. And I remember going to the bathroom. There was like a communal bathroom you go into and I was like with Dave and and we were drunk and and he was just like what did he say? He was talking about how this was like one of the best nights of his life and he was like, "No, was this the first time you're hearing this story?" this story?" this story?" Well, sometimes I forget the details. It was it was a sad time.

Basically, Basically, Basically, but not really. He wasn't that sad. It wasn't heavy. In the moment that night, she was talking about like leaving and like before we went into the bathroom and she was like visibly upset at this. She was about to leave. She might have even have just just walked out. Yeah, she did. And there was like there was like maybe I don't remember. I don't remember if there was tears or anything. anything. anything. There were tears and no one saw them. So that's that's the tidbit that I'm providing.

providing. providing. So she walks out and I remember talking to Dave and I was like Dave I was like what are you doing? I was like she's so cool. She's beautiful. And I was and and yeah, it was like his sentiment was kind of like the what he was saying where he's like what if there's more? Like I'm so like he was like I'm about this is all there is more. No, no, that that was everything he just said was the subtext, but really all you said I remember specifically you were like I don't know.

You were like I kind of like Battle Luca. Battle Luca. Battle Luca. Yeah, that's all he had. And then Kristen's last name. And then at the end I was like I don't I was like I don't know Chuck like I really I like Baluca and then and then I called her and then he called her one foot in the car and then she turned it was like out of a move and then and then we never split up for what what was it for you that went this is it no more stones to be turned over.

Like I'm not the kind of guy that did what I said I just did at the thing. So, I just felt a little bit bad about I'm just not that guy and I don't it's like what what am I looking for someone else when I have such a great person who wants to hang out with me? Now, at that point, I don't think either one of us necessarily knew we were going to get married. I don't think you knew we were going to get married 6 weeks in.

Remember, I think the first thing I said like on our second date, I was like, "Is this a dead end?" Like, Like, Like, well, yeah. So, I was I was angling for marriage. So, our second date, she said, "Is this She said, "Is this a dead end? Is this a second date? If us if us not getting married is a dead end, it's totally possible that this is a dead end. But if you're saying it's a dead end if we aren't actually married, I can't answer that question that question that question because it's a second date.

Exactly. But Kristen, from your side, like you're angling for marriage on the second day, like you're really clear about what you want. A, what's making it clear that this is the guy you want to be with and B, what's making you confident to be so clear about what you want? Because I think so many people who listen to the show, I know they actually feel quite scared scared scared Yeah. on their second date to actually be honest about what they're looking for. Well, I went into it being like I was 30 and I'd come out of a long relationship and I felt like like I had this whole narrative in my head, which I think the narrative is true that it's like why should women have to kind of play like this game of let them chase you or like I feel like so often even with my friends like even with Dave they'd be like don't be too aggressive like don't because I very much always just said what I wanted which was like I like taking out with you let's hang out again and I felt like I didn't want to waste waste time like letting him drive the relationship.

So, I just thought I it's better off that I figure out if we're a bad fit than like let it go too long. Also, I'm only getting older and it is remarkable how infrequent I went on a lot of dates. I dated a lot of people over a 10 year. not really any seriously, but I went on a lot of dates and it's very rare that I was held accountable and like you know where I feel like often times there are games that are played that that are totally predisposed to advantage the man and I was very much down to lean into that because it advantaged me.

I was ready to debate like I was I was like waiting for him to be up for the challenge. challenge. challenge. Yeah. here are all the reasons why it like why I'm not ready or whatever and then I kind of always came into the situation. situation. situation. Like we were always able to talk about it like you would be overwhelmed with like your work and you thought that because if you're dating somebody that means that you can't work and have like a career so I was always up for the debate.

debate. debate. Do you want to chime in Benny? I just think I think No, I was thinking about it because it's like I think we're actually in actually in actually in a time where like I think it's sexy when a woman does that. Like when like when Selena was doing that to me like she was just like her like very much we would talk about it. So would I we would I'd be like you have to go for these you have to go after them. Yeah.

And and it made me like it made me be like whoa. Like it was like cool. It's like cool. I was like oh my god. Yeah. I want like cuz you know Dave is saying like you know you know sometimes when you're dating someone they might not want to say something to rock the boat. And like I love when Selena would turn over. It'd be 3:00 in the morning and we were dating for like 3 weeks and she'd be like, "Well, what are we?" And I was like, "What?" And then she was like, "Well, when I go to New York this weekend, what am I going to tell people we are?" And I was like, it like she like caught me so off guard.

It's cool to have that dynamic where like both person both people are like on that same level. And I think I I do see it like I feel like I do cuz a lot of my friends are like that where I see women starting to do that a lot more now. And I think it's cool. Like I think it it's I think it's cool. Like I think it shows like such a confidence like you know some people look at it like some of my friends look at it like oh like that's so needy or that's so I'm like that's a person telling you exactly what they want.

Like I don't want to play these games like and when you're when and it's okay to be needy. Like I think it's okay to just exist exactly how you are. Selena will say that in the morning she'll say like she'll be like today's a needy day and she'll be and and it what when you are with someone who can because it's so hard when you're trying to play a guessing game like when you're trying to talk with your partner who doesn't express themselves, it's so difficult to meet them in the right place and then they're like harboring all this resentment.

But yeah, like Selena will wake up in the morning and she'll say, "Okay, today's like a needy day. I need you to be like extra nice to me, extra gentle." And then you are set up for success cuz you know what to do. I should say on behalf of Dave like I did trust my instincts which was that I could tell that Dave like I knew who he was as a person and I knew it was just his anxieties that were kind of like overriding this entire situation.

It wasn't like I was like totally shooting in the dark. Totally. When I look back on it, like it is crazy to me that now that I know her and everything that I wasn't after the first day, week, whatever being like, "Oh my god, that's the person I'm going to like." To me, it's so obvious like that she is my soulmate. And the only reason I wasn't But truly, the only reason I didn't see it was because of my own anxieties wouldn't even allow me to see it.

Cuz as soon as we started spending more time together, I was like, "She's the funniest, most beautiful, perfect." I couldn't even believe that I was. It was a debate. And what I said to myself, I said I always I feel like I was in a lot of relationships where I didn't always feel like I was the one that like chased or I had like all of the agency. And I would after my last relationship before Dave, I was like, I want to chase the person I marry and I want to be the one that's like choosing cuz so often you kind of I don't know.

I I felt like so so many of my past relationships were more like, you know, like you're I don't you're being pursued. Yeah. or something or like it's just easier to stay whatever then go so with Dave well before Dave I was like I want to like chase my husband like I want to be like I really know that I want this not like this is easy but I feel like it set them up for such success cuz when I look at them there couldn't be more even in a rel and like I feel like that's when a relationship wins like no person has the upper hand in their relationship there's no like bad like there's like funny like banter back and forth and I love that But it's like they truly like watching both of them, they truly want each other to win and and then that's when I feel like that's when the relationship works.

I've been in relationships where the person is secretly like Yeah. They're like competitive. Or I've been in relationships where something good happens to me and I'm keeping it from the person because I'm scared or like I I had a time where like I like won some big award and I went into a closet to answer the call and be excited because I was too scared and like that's like the worst type of relationship to be in. Like I want to be in a relationship where like my partner is like cares more about like they they like feel like they care more about you than their own thing and you feel that way too and you guys are just like the ultimate cheerleader for each other.

Yeah. Well, you guys I mean what's amazing though is that you guys are living the dream because you guys are best friends and then your wife and your best friend are really great friends and that's so special. And the fact that you guys used to do your birthdays together, the fact that you also all got married in the same year, same month and she's so close with Selena, too. It's like it's been it's perfect. I'm so happy it wor like you know when one of your friends dates someone that you're like h and like and you never No, it's crazy.

What would you have done? What would you have done? have done? have done? Oh my god. I've been that guy. I've dated someone where my f I've dated multiple people where I mean one time I I broke up with a person I was with and my friends uh wanted to throw me a party like and I said I said well why didn't anyone tell me when I was in it and they said what are we supposed to tell you they said we made we made gestures and and and yeah Dave have you ever made gestures to Benny in that way no I would he has slightly in his own way not as blunt as blunt as blunt as I keep it real If anyone's beh I I don't care who you are.

If anyone's behave, I just like to speak about the facts at hand. So I always he's a fact basically. I'm a helping hand with anyone who wants to analyze the facts at hand. But you know, love is a particular thing that sometimes transcends fact. So pretty good, right Jay? That's beautiful. That's like you've like found something there. I was like, wow. That is beautiful. I get what you're saying. It's like when when you know someone, you have a friend and they're like really into this person.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're kind of like, well, maybe there's a part of that I don't want to mess up cuz they see something I don't see. Yeah. It's just not your place necessarily to be like, you know, you I know you love this person, but just so you know. you know. you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You shouldn't. Yeah. I don't know. What What was it like though going from those parties to actually getting married a month apart like to be at each other's wedding? other's wedding?

other's wedding? High level partying. High level parties. No. Stressful. We were so tired. I feel like we were all really tired. I was really tired. really tired. really tired. I liked it. I mean, I really enjoyed it. To me, I was like, "Our wedding was the best night of our lives and it was so great." And I just remember being so happy that I had his wedding. Like, I was like, "And the fun isn't done." And I remember telling I said to her, I said, "We should really try to have as much fun as possible because nights don't always have this upside potential of how fun a night can be the way." And like we just had the most like very rarely do you go into a night where it has the potential to be the most fun night of your life.

And our wedding of course had that potential. It felt so good when it actually was like, you know, I would have called it a fact a fact if it was in any way shorter than I would have, especially cuz we're paying all this goddamn money. But it really was. Yeah, it was the best night. It was so perfect. And then I just remember being so excited for his and his was perfect. And and we had the Bachelorette in between. Oh, go. We had like we had it was like we kept saying that we're like kicking off like it was our wedding and then we had in between our wedding and their wedding we each separately went on like you know I went to like Selena's and Dave went to Benny's and then we had the wedding so it was like a fun two months.

Kristen, what was your favorite thing about Benny and Selena's wedding? Probably the vows. It's so like watching your close friends get married and like hearing that what No, no. I was thinking remembering how his his face moved when he would cry. I mean, I couldn't see anything cuz I was behind a pole, but I heard the B. You didn't get like preferred seeing or anything. anything. anything. I did get the front row seat, but I I didn't know if people were going to sit between me and Benny's family, so I like sat all the way to the side.

She just had she had she had an architectural issue. architectural issue. architectural issue. But that was the best part. Tell us about the vows. The vows were so good. And I think Well, and Dave officiated, which I also obviously enjoyed. I just loved hearing it's like it was nice to kind of hear them be serious like you're not it's so rare that you're going to like hear your friends friends friends you know say their love is like what they're doing in your vows you know especially okay so my perspective by the way I couldn't have a better view like they're like I'm like right there and they're right here and so and so and so because you're officiating yeah so have you done one before no no no I've actually never even given a best man speech so like the whole thing and then it's also such a trick cuz like on the I'm almost giving a best man speech but it's also right there at the altar so you can't even do pressure those days.

It was a lot of pressure, but I really felt born for that moment. And it was really, look, Selena, like when the curtain went away and it was her and she started, she like literally I I'm loathed to say that she looked like a princess, but she just looked like a fairy tale. Like the sun, it was like the most amazing setting behind her and they had like these beautiful tents. So when she This is what I did see a little bit of when she was like walking.

It was like it was like majestic. like majestic. like majestic. Yeah. And like you know she pulls out this like this like this like I don't even this hand this book of scriptures or that is like her vows that were like written by hand that she like lost 5 days earlier that Benny had she like lo wrote her vows for like a year and then she lost them like right before the wedding the wedding the wedding and then Benny found like pulled it like double point.

double point. double point. Yeah. you found it on the day and she told the day a few days before but like her vows are just like you know and and then Benny like you know obviously Benny has a high level of emotional capacity and sensitivity but he's definitely a joker and to see him just break like and become just a shell of a man. man. man. Wow. Wow. Wow. Like his face like I never like when Selena when the curtain got revealed and sh his face was like cuz I was trying not to.

Okay. So, when we did the first look, I was like, "Oh, oh, that this is easy. I'm not even crying." But when she came out to the music, my face, I was like, "I'm not ready to cry this early." So, I was like I was like, "Yeah, "Yeah, "Yeah, like I can't even do it." I was like, I recently watched the video back and it's insane. It's weird to to see someone's face so often and then realize you've never seen them their face do a certain thing is a weird feeling to feel.

feel. feel. That's amazing. That's amazing. I'm never nervous and I was before it happened. I all of a sudden got so nervous and like 10 times I was like should I have him print mine out bigger? Should I do it small? And like I asked him all these questions and then he made me walk out to like everyone's seated thinking the thing's about to start and he made me walk out alone like down the aisle essentially and like double check and he had multiple printouts of the thing already sitting up there.

I remember being so nervous and then for some reason the second I turned into the room everything melted away and it was like I wasn't nervous at all anymore and it was it it was so cool to see theirs was like training Yeah. Theirs was like training and theirs was I I really can't stress this. It was the best wedding I'd ever been to in my life. I think also it's because it's like the people like I care. I've never like I cried so much at their wedding during their vows.

I was bawling and you think about your friends but then like to see them do this thing that's so like final. It was so be and they're both so wellspoken and funny but also serious and like yeah I don't usually see Dave serious. I never see Kristen's here. Like we're all those people who kind of like make like I'll probably be laughing at like my friend's funeral like cuz I like can't like it's it's it's it's like a coping mechanism. And to watch them do that was so fun.

And everything was perfect. And I their week their wedding was one of the best weekends of my life. And then I was like, "Oh my god, I have my own to look forward to." And I had that feeling where I was so scared that mine wasn't going to live up to what it was in my head. And it was so far beyond what like the only thing I didn't like is um cocktail hour cuz I kept having to say hi to everyone. I said, "Am I going to be doing this the whole night?" I tried to get you to do the thing.

You didn't want to do it. No, we did do it. We did do it and we didn't like it. We didn't We took We should have We basically went Dave and I like had to go to the bathroom. So we before Benny and Selena had seen of course it was our wedding was how we even knew about this. Did you do this like where they they take you into the reception before the the guests come they pluck you from cocktail hour 5 minutes early minutes early minutes early take you to where the band is and where dinner is and they like let you see it all and the band's playing just for you and it was like our favorite part of our wedding.

wedding. wedding. And then we had to go to the bathroom so we went into Benny and Selena's before they had seen it and we were like oh my god this is incredible they have to see it. So, we were like, should we pull them away? And pulling them away was like, like, like, it was so hard. It was so hard. Like, I thought, you know what? I felt like they were being bombarded. They were And I was just like, they're miss they're only going to the tenting that they're thing.

It was the most beautiful tent. Oh, and you never go to see. I was No, they got to see No, not empty. But they But I but I made them do it. I was just like I just had this instinct that I knew better and and that they didn't know. didn't know. didn't know. What was your wedding like? Gosh, I think Do I remember this correctly? Was yours like some sort of thing like outside near like a brick? Like Like Like No, no, no. That was just our photo shoot.

That was just our photo shoot afterwards. We afterwards. We afterwards. We This year's our 10 year wedding anniversary. I was going to say when you get married 10 years 10 years. Oh, actually I don't care about your wedding. I want to know. I want to know this. This is my real question. My real This is not your podcast. I have a question for you. I have a question. I have many more. Go on. I got one question. I'll let you ask one question. I have one question.

You have one question. He's got to think of the question. No. No. No. No. No, no. It's such a good question. I just want to word it the right way. right way. right way. Okay. You're 10 years in. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Juny by Jay. Okay. Okay. Okay. And my wife. You're 10 years in. What have you learned in this time that you that you thought you knew when it was 10 years before? And what do you want like the next 10 years to be like? Yeah.

Two questions. Two questions. Two questions. Good question. Good question. Only answer. Only answer. Only answer. It's similar to the way you're even talking about each other. I feel like you think you love your partner the most you could love them on your wedding day and then you realize you had no idea how much you could love them. Like 10 years on it's just like I thought I loved my wife like the most I could ever love her and then you actually go through life, you go through challenges, you go through ups and downs.

We we got married, changed jobs, moved country and moved home all in the same year. same year. same year. Wow. And so like we went through so much and I feel like that could either break you or make you closer and for us it just brought us closer. Then the pandemic we were stuck together every day and it brought us closer and I think that could have been a so I feel like when you've been through so much life together you just have so much proof that you love each other through so many different versions of each other.

And I think that's the other thing that I feel like I've been love with a different person in 10 years because my wife has been so many different versions of herself. She'll probably feel like she has changed so many times in beautiful in beautiful in beautiful and so you're learning to fall in love again. So this idea of oh I know your every move and I know everything about you. It's like I actually don't and I feel like I'm constantly on my toes and because we end up spending a bit of time away from each other every year because of work.

I feel like we're still dating which is really fun actually. I I love the fact that we don't see each other all the time. And there's a sense of like I can't wait to get back to you and so we see each other too much all day every day. Not too much for me, Jay. Never too much for me. Yeah. I I Yeah. I was like I was trying to convince my wife to do a reality show with me cuz I was like I just want to be with you all day long.

Like that would be my dream. She's like we're never doing a reality TV show. All right then. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. I don't know who else would because there wouldn't be much drama. We'd have to create some drama. Like you'd have to find ways I'd have to in invite drama. We can give you some ideas. Yeah. But did you guys ever think, like, we're here to talk about Friends Keep Secrets. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. The show, not a podcast, not a live stream. Did you ever believe that you guys would be doing a show together?

I think it makes sense. Ever. Yes. Cuz we I I don't think we saw I didn't necessarily see it coming, but it really kind of was this perfect storm of things happening at the right time. And like Kristen was very she was always even as I was making Dave in my just always on TikTok and always being like there's something that's so rewarding about real human behavior. And she was always kind of on the forefront of knowing that consumption patterns are really changing. And that was something that I I I really respect her opinion about a lot of things.

And that was something that was in my head. And separately, me and Benny had kind of just flirted with the idea of a podcast for years, but I never really saw it as a thing that I wanted to do. And what changed? what changed? what changed? I think one day I was like, but what if like we like rigged our house and what if you take the same like creativity that the two of you have and you try to change what this is versus trying to like fit the mold of what everything else is.

And I feel like that's when you were and I think Benny like separately had the same idea cuz we all got on the phone and he was like, "Yeah, we can literally like he was like I was so I I just think it was a perfect storm for you to be like, "Oh, this is exciting." Once I started thinking about the potential to reinvent things and make things different. Then I got really excited about it. And then only when we started doing it did I did I really like fall in love with everything because I say this to them all the time.

My me even going for it as a comedic presence only happened because I was trying to entertain my friends and be like the funny guy to my friends and that is my when I am the happiest when I'm around my best friends and I'm like seeking the joke and trying to make them laugh and then I went for it. I try you know I became a comedian made my show Dave and like a show like Dave it requires so much like hard work. I believe it show and like everything that seems like it's all so fun and light and like the amount of brain power that goes into executing it is so next level that actually making the show Dave can be torturous.

Whereas as soon as we started doing this I've never had more it's just like I was the inner child in me was like now having fun with my best friends again. And then even seeing the footage of it and understanding how it all was working to me, I think back to Kristen's original thesis, there's nothing more compelling. I think co actually caused this because the show stopped being made and people were just at home and then Tik Tok was blowing up and we were just seeing over and over again human beings being themselves and being really entertaining and fun to watch.

And so I think at the end of the day, things are only as good as the the characters that that are there. And we're just being ourselves. And there really is nothing pure than like having a great time with your best friends. And it's all everything that's happening is so real and organic. And like they're like the amount of hard laughs that are happening with all three of us as we're filming it is I've been talking for a long time. I'm realizing making it reating. I realize how long I allow for that space.

I still remember the first call when you called me up. I was like, "I think me and you know, me and Dave and Kristen want to start this show." And in my head, I was like, "Oh, great." You know, we'll put some microphones down. We're going to sit down. It'll be another interview show. You guys will have great guests. And then as this thing's evolved, I was just like, "Your guys creative vision, the way you're shifting up the industry, the way this show is going to change the way people think about what a podcast is, what an interview is, it's amazing.

And and honestly, it's been such a joy like seeing you guys put in the work, put in the hustle, but also the most important thing is I feel like whenever I've seen you, I I I got to walk into one of your episodes when I was coming to do a photo shoot, but then I just got to walk in to an episode, which is insane. And and I'm like, I couldn't believe just how crazy, real, authentic, and and you know, people throw those words around. So, I don't even like using those words cuz nowadays everyone's like, "Oh, it's so authentic.

It's so this." this." this." It's not even that. It just is what it is. Like it is just three friends. We don't even know what's coming and we get in these random conversations and arguments that become so passionate that I feel like anyone watching a group of anyone in their own group of friends is able to relate to like it's really just us kind of living and existing and it's a fly on the wall observation of that. I think what's fascinating about it on a on a more thoughtful level is one of the things I'm trying to do with the work I'm that we're putting out there in the world is trying to make people feel less alone.

Mhm. alone. Mhm. alone. Mhm. And and I feel like this show makes people feel less alone. She always says there's a loneliness uh epidemic. epidemic. epidemic. Well, cuz there is. But I felt like I realized I do think after co like all of our social lives have slowed down or if they haven't there was like there was definitely like a period where socializing beyond the anxiety of like co kind of create there was like a learning curve to kind of get back into it and putting yourself out there.

And I really resonate with like Tik Tok and it's not like I love watching people in like Michigan or like random state, you know, like home videos essentially of like people hanging out. And I feel like one cool thing about us is I mean especially Benny, not Dave is cool, but like I feel like when we met Benny, you were such a good host. you always like have us over and like we have so much fun and we meet new people and I think we now have the opportunity to like bring people into that experience which is what I like on TikTok.

I I I'll tell you some I was I was with my friend the other day and we were hanging out and he was he like just went through a breakup. You know, I don't ever watch myself back. I'm not like a guy that does that. I don't like once it's there it's there. I like I'll ask my manager. I'll say, "Hey, did I say something stupid?" And I'll be like, "Ah, this was stupid." And I'll say, "Okay, take it out." Like, I'm not like a I don't want to I I can't do that in any like I don't want to look at a magazine.

I don't want to do any of that. But my friend wasn't feeling great. And I said, "Let me put on an episode of of of our new show." and I put it on and at first he's like staring at it and he's laughing uncontrollably and he's like just like following along to everything and it got to the point where we start having our normal conversation and it's just playing in the background and it's just like it just we were like in it but then we go do our own thing and then we come back to it and we're like it was so cool to have it's like a constant friend in the corner and it was like whenever there was like a lull in the conversation we would just start watching the thing again and it was and it and and we were laughing and we would like pause it then talk about like our own stories we're like oh my god that reminds me of and to me I feel like we live in a world where there's constantly so much static and noise of like not great things and I feel like there's a way to put something good into the earth without like pushing like pushing it down people's throats like trying to do like some educational like it it's it's like when we did Earth like we made Earth and it had a really good sentiment behind it but it was talking about like your penis and a baboon's butt like it's like like I think there's a way to do something good for the world and not take yourself so seriously and we talk about real life on this podcast.

It's not a podcast, but um I was waiting for that day. He's thinking Mr. It's not only Yeah, it's multimedia. Yeah, he wants to change the name to multidia. multidia. multidia. Multimedia. Multimedia. Multimedia. No one liked it but me. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. It seems like 90s. That's what I It's cool. It's classic. Vintage. Vintage. Vintage. Vintage. No one wants it though, so it's still Friends Keep Secrets. Oh, you wanted to change the name to multi. Yeah, multi. Yeah, multi. Yeah, you like sent a serious text.

That's amazing. I never got that dress. I just I just I just It hadn't made it to you yet. It got shot down. shot down. shot down. It's not the right idea. I don't think Benny replied. No, but that's what I love about what you guys can do. Like you guys are doing something that not a lot of people can do. You guys can have fun, be ridiculous, talk about crazy stuff, and have a moral message to wrap it up with, which is insane or not.

And and I think that's the beautiful thing that you're making people feel close. But for you, Dave, like you're working with your wife and your best friend in the same space. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like you have the hardest job because that's you say that, you know. Yeah. I just wanted to empathize. I was like, take a moment to acknowledge that you're you're in the middle. Like how how does working with friends, loved ones is hard anyway. anyway. anyway. Yeah. Chuck, Yeah. Chuck, Yeah. Chuck, how are you?

Uh yeah, Chuck, yeah, Chuck, yeah, Chuck, how are you managing it? Uh, look, I really had no fear going into it because I just know both of them so well and I've I just feel like I I wouldn't become this close with anyone if they if the person couldn't analyze whatever facts at hand that are and talk about them fairly, logically, whatever. So, I'm we get in little spats and arguments all the time. What's the roles usually? Who starts the fight? Who continues it? All three of us are equally annoying to all three.

Like it really varies and all of us do different things. different things. different things. I love But I love all of them. They're so fun. so fun. so fun. But I just I just Sorry. No, go on. I just I just know that there's really no argument or moment that could ever be the type of thing that we couldn't logically talk about it and arrive at the facts at hand. So ultimately, I have no fear. I also have a pretty high tolerance for like understanding him, understanding her, understanding when to leave things be.

And I think all of us kind of do and we're all so close that I don't know for me it's literally like I work so hard that nothing makes me happier than getting to work so hard and hang out with my best friend and wife while doing it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think we all communicate the same way. Like we can kind of get like revved up and get like not aggressive but passionate. passionate. passionate. We're all aggressive but we don't take it like I feel like we'll do it and then like two seconds later we'll be like we'll be fine.

And I think that's like it's unique to kind of find people that communicate the same way that you do in these moments. I mean, we can definitely get on each other's nerves, but it's never like like it's never like taken personal really. I'm never mad at anyone. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you are annoyed. You get annoyed. No, but I'm never It's like what she's saying. saying. saying. Yeah. It goes like sucking the conversation. conversation. conversation. No one's ever mad at anyone. We get revved up together.

Like Like I don't think I could ever like be like actually really angry at you guys. I don't think also none of us are that type of person. He's only been angry at me one time in his entire life and we were coming home from Coachella from Coachella from Coachella and he was really tired and he hadn't slept in the type of like situ. He hadn't had a full night's sleep in a few days and he needs a full night's sleep and he's getting his stuff out of the car and I'm getting my stuff out of the car and I kind of like like kicked his knee or something and and and yeah, I can't even remember.

I think you like I like was like pushed me from behind playfully. Yeah, I was like pushing him like as a joke and he was like No, no, no. No, he pushed me playfully. Oh, yeah. You hit your shin and my shin hit the like the car. Yeah. And hurt so much. AND HE GOES, "GET OFF of me." And he was and then I laughed at him. It was He was angry for about 15 seconds. So, how do you guys make decisions then? Uh, vote. Group conversation.

Group conversation. conversation. conversation. It can get got it. No, it gets revved up. It got revved up the other day. I like to bring the vote in, but she she'll never insert her opinion. I don't want the vote. I want us to talk it out. Talk I like the vote. He likes the We We So, it's a two out of three like the vote. I definitely think what what I I've noticed that I do sometimes feel this isn't like a bad thing. I can tell that I'm like a little bit more sensitive than the two of them.

Like I think it's like a guy girl thing. Maybe not. I don't want to make such an assumption, but I I would say that like I would say that I am the more sensitive one of the three of us. Would you guys not? Well, I'm not sensitive. I'm not sensitive about that type of stuff. Like I'm sensitive like I'm crying in a movie, a song like Yeah, I'm not sensitive and I don't think Dave is either. Like if someone's just like like I want someone to tell me also in the studio all like I don't like the sugar coating like just if someone's just like oh like that that didn't work let's do this.

I'm like oh great like let's try it again. it again. it again. I like that too. I'm chill. No you're sens Well you're sensitive in a she's sensitive in a different way that I get like me and Dave have been doing this. We've been in the foreground putting ourselves out there for many many years. This is Kristen's like first thing. is like everyone's first impression on her is like it's not like she's like back in the day where like it would be like Michael Jackson would perform once and you'd be like man I wonder what he's like as a guy.

There was like no other media. We're seeing like every like nook and cranny like she like she'll like she'll burp or be like sweat. Yeah. And she's so honest and it's so rare that you see it's funny. I I like her and Selena, I see why they're such good friends cuz it's like there's so many similarities where like I feel like sometimes like you and Selena have this thing where you're both like so brutally honest about how you're feeling and it's like it's so comedic too.

It's like funny. It's like hard I I like can't explain it. Yeah. Like you just saying like you're sweating. Like I feel like mo like most like especially cuz you guys are like so well put together and like I'm nothing like that. No. No, but like Selena will say the same thing. She'll be like, "I'm sweating and I'm having like an anxiety attack right now." Like, and I I love that about you guys. And I do feel like there's also a lot of use out there.

And I think like you're going to inspire people so much because you know, you wear your insecurities on your sleeve in a cool way. And I like it. I I love it. How it. I I love it. How I like that it's cool. How does it feel for you, Kristen? Like obviously this is a big deal. It is the first time you're going to be This is the first interview you're doing. doing. doing. I almost didn't come. I was going to say that I had the stomach flu.

I was like I was like thinking of so upset. I would have taken that so far. far. far. And you would have known. Well, I wouldn't have. Well, you shouldn't have. We would have more room. No, but I but I knew that um No, I actually like this interview. I'm doing fine. There is like a spit bubble that keeps coming through. Makes you smile. you smile. you smile. That's a little bit hard. No one else see anything. Yeah, right before we did this, she had a full thing of lipstick across her whole mouth, and I told her right before.

Yeah. Has an argument ever lasted longer than the recording of one of the episodes? episodes? episodes? No. No. No. No. Is anyone's butt asleep? No. No. No. No, you got to reposition. Do you want to have a little walk around? around? around? No. No. No. You can if you want. No, I don't want to. to. to. No, I can't be the first man to ever just reposition your butt. Jay said that nobody has ever used the bathroom during an interview ever except him once with Kevin Hart.

I felt so embarrassed. I was like, I can't. I can't. I can't. Kevin, do you mind if I use the bathroom? bathroom? bathroom? And then did you use this one? Yeah, the one back there. You know, I always ask people like I always wonder like do they use the bathroom? No. Like when like Adele is performing, like is she ever just like, "Oh my gosh, I ate something cra like like does like like does anyone have to poop ever?" The best like find a routine for moments in their life, right?

Like that's how athletes play. athletes play. athletes play. My stuff is always right before I have to go to the bathroom. Like I pee when I'm nervous, which is so nice for our podcast because I get up and go to the bathroom like I would say like four times an episode. You also hydrate well there. Not really. It's honestly Yeah, I had to as soon as I sat down, but I've already gone. It's just nerves. Like, it's like to me it's a nerve- based thing. It's not actually I don't know.

Chuck, do you think your pee is nerve- based? based? based? It's not pee, but I I'm surprised at how often I'll have to poop like 30 minutes before a concert. Oh, yeah. I can relate to that. I can relate to that. What is that nerve? That's all you're doing. doing. doing. I have to like evacuate before when I used to like I did it before 5 minutes before going st st st when I was younger when I when I was younger when I like first like really in New York like first got on the dating scene I used to anytime anytime anytime I was going to have a date with a girl and she was about to come over and we were going to leave I would like I'd have to poop like 2 minutes before it would happen every time until like I got really comfortable really comfortable really comfortable And I would be honest like I And I would be honest like I used to use that as one of my like ice breakers or like my other to to to No, I would just like be like my other icebreaker I would say is I would say I don't usually do this these but what's the worst thing you've ever done in your entire life?

And then we'd both say the worst thing we ever did in our whole life and I'd be like okay now I feel like I know you and I also have blackmail on you in case like this doesn't go well. How did you come up with that? Did it work? Did you break the I didn't do it with Selena. Selena. Selena. There you go. I feel like you always think like I like through dating I was like oh like I met my soulmate or like oh I met the person I could spend the rest of my life with.

But it's so different when you actually meet the person that you are going to spend the rest of your life with. It was such a different feeling and all and I like went back and I was like wo those feelings when I was younger like that it was so different cuz it just clicks. You know what I'm saying? It clicks in a different way. different way. different way. What's Selena's reaction when she sees you cry at the altar like at on the wedding day? Like what's her reaction to that?

that? that? Trying to compare it to Radi's reaction of me crying. I think she cried and then while it was all going on, we were laughing and just like talking to each other like while everything was happening. I've cried I've cried in front of her plenty of times. Not I'm I I cry. I cry. I'm I'm a Pisces. I'm a little fish. little fish. little fish. Are you a Pisces? Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, dude. That that makes sense. Are you a Pisces? No, all my all my closest male friends are Pisces.

are Pisces. are Pisces. Really? What are you? I'm a I'm a Virgo. Oh, my mom is Virgo. I'm a Virgo, but I don't really identify. I'm on the cusp. I'm pretty I'm pretty I'm pretty You do have very Virgo. When's your birthday? 6th September. 6th September. 6th September. Have you ever had like a person on here that's an expert at all that type? Yes, I had an astrology expert, Channy Nichols, a couple of weeks ago. And that did that person make you feel like it's actual kind of scientific fact because I'm you know whenever anyone brings up sign or anything I want to be like what the are we talking like that stuff's so inconsequential but then there are so many times where it seems spot on.

Did that expert uh say that it's real? You should have them on. Yeah, we should. Yeah, that would be really cool. I think you'd ask questions right give us the cliff notes. Well, you go. The cliff notes is I'm I'm kind of like you. So I I have an understanding of like eastern astrology which is very deeply scientific. The number of astrologers that are available are non-existent now. Like it's hard but it does exist. And I've had people tell me crazy things like predict they predicted like how many kids they would have and the first name of their partner and all that kind of stuff.

And then you have what we have today where you have horoscopes which of course the daily horoscope you read is like kind of made up. up. up. And so it's kind of finding that balance. Her take was there's lots of truth to it. It's all based on the planets and how they align. There's lots of ways of checking the system and making sure that it's valuable insight, but the amount of people that are actually doing that today are very little. little. little. So, it's almost like there's a lot of uh mics, not enough real MC's.

Maybe that's I feel like when I moved to LA, the amount of people that seem to operate off of that having so much consequence blew like I I feel like I'm on an island as the only guy who's like, "This isn't real." real." real." Yeah. I've just followed a weird pattern that all my best male friends are born in March. Yeah. Like it's just a strange also born in March. Jay, wow. We haven't had enough time yet, but I'm looking forward to it. But seriously, my my best friend growing up was 14th of March.

My best friend who was my best man at the wedding 16th of March. March. March. 15th. 15th. 15th. My closest friend in LA is 18th of March. March. March. Wow. Wow. Wow. Like it's just it's crazy. And I'm 8th of March. Same as my sister who I'm really good friends with. friends with. friends with. 8th of March. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do Pisces and Virgos I Well, I assume so. So many. I know Pisces and Cancers really are that's Cancer. Thanks. Cancer. Thanks. Cancer. Thanks. We got to talk to that person.

Well, yeah, but maybe you should have them on the show. We should. We should. We should. All right. What I wanted to do is I wanted to play a game that we created for you. So, your show is called Friends Keep Secrets. Keep Secrets. Keep Secrets. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We came up with Friends Don't Keep Secrets. Really creative. It's like, you know, know, know, but we played a couple game with Benny. So, we thought we'd play a throppples game with with you guys. Fun. I love games.

I'm going to give you one of these. We did this for Benny and Selena. There we go. This is all about Kristen first. Cool. Cool. Cool. So, the way this work is the players will write down their partners' potential answers to questions before comparing answers. So, this is all about Kristen. We're both going to guess. We're all going to guess what hopefully Kristen writes down. And then we're going to see and then we're going to do each of you and you write down your answers. answers.

answers. We're writing down what we think Kristen is writing. is writing. is writing. Correct. Correct. If Kristen could change one thing about Dave, what would it be? it be? it be? I always had a fear of playing this type of game. of game. of game. Hold on. Hold on. Why? Hold on. Cuz then I just would feel bad about like do I not know anything about the people that I'm so close with. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I am confident in your answer. I feel like you know the answer.

answer. answer. So fun. Like it's not like a therapy test. test. test. I literally say it out loud all the time. time. time. Mine's true. Mine's true. Mine's true. So the question is if Kristen could change one thing about Dave, what would it be? Kristen, please reveal your answer. Read it to that he likes wine. What? What? What? I don't like wine. The one thing I would change would be that you like to drink wine. You don't like wine. like wine. like wine. Change it. Yeah.

I don't think you understand. Hold on. Shouldn't she be No. If Kristen could change one thing about Dave, what would it be? She would change that you would like wine. That you would enjoy change that I don't like wine. Correct. Correct. Correct. So, what did you write? I thought this was definitely the answer. How I chew and smack my lips when I eat. Oh, Oh, Oh, mine was mine was mine was going on dates or being more fun. What? What? What? Well, I think that they're all I was certain she was going to put that.

I thought you I was 100% sure you were going to say that. I mean, I literally say this all the time. I say, "I wish you drank wine." I mean, wine is kind of in in the same world as the being fine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The reason I didn't I don't write this. You think about that? No. But you're also really good about not getting annoyed when I get annoyed with you about that. But were you thinking about mine a little too? Well, I guess you I figured yours would be I figured you I figured yours would be that.

that. that. I knew what he was going to write. My mom has been complaining about the way that I smack my lips my whole life. Well, you have a little bit of a problem. problem. problem. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What's our next All right. Okay. So, the next one is, "What's something Benny and Kristen always side with each other on that drives Dave crazy?" Actually, I'll just keep mine. There's two. There's two that I actually know. Okay. Who she's All right. So, the question was, "What's something Benny and Kristen always side with each other on that drives Dave crazy?

Kristen, please reveal your answer." answer." answer." Okay, I have two. The sec the second one that I'm about to say, I know he'll get mad about. mad about. mad about. So, you don't have to say it then. Okay. Well, I I like to stir the pot both of them. Okay. One, working less. Oh, that would two his I would say putting music on. No. No. No. Oh, no. Benny's on my side. Yeah, I'm on Dave's side. Well, I'm some more. more. more. No, you're on my side.

Coming off nicer while texting. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what I thought. I forgot about that. I I wrote that I can be too hands-on, right? right? right? No, I love that you're about that. Wait, look. This is nice. This is good feedback. We love your hands on I thought you were g I thought one of you guys was going to say are we bad at this game? No. No. This is good. It's a hard game. It's meant to be hard. It's me. Yeah.

We're learning new things about our about each other that we did now. The texting was a good guess. And the things is your the things that you think you're that people don't like you actually they love about you. That is nice. is nice. is nice. We love you Mochi. I love you guys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. When was the last time Kristen admitted that she was wrong? What makes you think I'm ever wrong? She'd change. It's There's too much wavering to know cuz she'll go up and down about the right and wrong.

Depends on what mood I'm in. I would say wrong. wrong. wrong. I would say I think I can't remember. I'm just going to have a little Do you know something? The last You can give a time frame. Yeah, I'm doing that. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Yeah. Like last month, 10 years ago. They're going to 12 years ago. 12 months ago. I mean, I don't even know if I'm actually wrong. You could write that down if you want, Gra. Gra. Gra. I'm trying to think. I mean, I'm so in infrequently wrong.

I love it. I really It's hard to catch me. I like the thinking going on. This is good. good. good. She's wrong. When was the last time she goes, "Benny, you know what? I'm wrong. I admit it." Well, we film There was a time that we filmed something. Oh, only only if she's caught in the act on the like only if I see the footage. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That that is that is I know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just a specific argument. What's the argument?

the argument? the argument? There's a bunch. Yeah, there's a Yeah. What was I Oh, I don't know if I'm wrong. I have to see the footage. You saw the footage basically. basically. basically. No, you don't even need to. It doesn't matter. matter. matter. I don't I'm free. I won't get into too much nuance. Basically, they got in an argument that Kristen was claiming that Benny kind of said something, said something, said something, brought something up to get under her skin, right? skin, right? skin, right? And Benny was like, "You're the one who brought this thing up in the first place." And she was like, "No, I wasn't." And then we went into the control room and we said, "Play us back the or how we even got here." And then we watched the footage as we're filming the thing and Kristen did actually bring She brought it up.

see what we're talking. talking. talking. Yeah, he was amazing. I brought it up, but I but but you know, but I get it. I get her side but I get it. I get her side as well. Okay, as well. I get her side as well. Okay, next question. next question. next question. We did good. All right. All right. We're going to switch to Dave now. So, it's all about Dave. Bread and butter. Who does Dave trust most for honest feedback? Not just in the group, in the world.

world. world. Oh, I know exactly what you're doing. What? What? What? Well, I think I know what you're what is going through. going through. going through. Don't let Don't let Don't let Oh, yeah. But to me, the answer is is actually pretty simple. The answer is answers. answers. answers. All right. So, the question was, who does Dave trust most for honest feedback? Dave, please reveal. Benny and Kristen is the answer to that question. Now, I know they both probably think Jack and Henry. No. No. No.

What? What? What? Oh, I said, what did you write? I said me and Kristen. And then I said friends from home, but I was thinking of the joiner situation, but it wasn't. It was just that he was right. So, yeah. I both of them like look Benny for music I I no song would ever come out without having him hear it and analyze it, critique hits, say it's worthy, point out whatever flaws could exist. Kristen's the exact same thing for like TV and film. Like any script or thing like I I really trust both of their instincts.

instincts. instincts. What did you write? I wrote his mom or me or Jeff Schaefer or Benny. or Benny. or Benny. My mom told me not to be a rapper. She said so. Okay. So, but I think yeah, you're on the list. You just those two. No question. I love that for sure. We got some of it right. Both of you are not narcissists. You didn't write yourselves, right? No, I wrote. Oh, you see. Okay. Okay. Okay. That's great. That's great. That's great. I knew the It's not being a nar.

I just knew the answer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What's our next All right. So, if you called Dave because you run someone over, would he help you bury the body? Would he call the cops or would he tell you to call the cops? the cops? the cops? Those are my only three options. Call the cops. the cops. the cops. This is it. It's Dave's fault. Wait, no. You're saying, "Oh, I killed I ran someone over." Yeah. Yeah. You ran someone over. Wait. Yeah. Wait. Yeah. Wait.

Yeah. Yeah. And then you call these guys and I'm saying, "Would you tell them to Wait, wait, wait. I I can if one of them did it." Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, sorry, sorry. If you called it Sorry. If Yes. My bad. Thank you so much for correcting me. I was wrong. wrong. wrong. Let this be in my statement that I admit it was wrong. If you ran someone over and you called Dave, what's he going to tell them what happened? Would he help you bury the body?

Would he call the cops himself or would he tell you to disappear? disappear? disappear? Disappear is a new new one. Yeah, I'm adding a third. I'm changing. What if I had the opportunity to change it? it? it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But is it our fault though or was it an accident? accident? accident? It's an accident. Obviously, you didn't do it on purpose. What would Dave tell you to do? This is This is a test of Dave's character. Dave's character. Dave's character. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's Oh, that's Oh, that's I like framing it that way.

Yeah. I feel like I I know. I feel like I have the black marker all over cuz I've been doodling. doodling. doodling. All right, Dave. What would you do? I can see yours, Dave, but I don't know. Dave would disappear. They would tell you to You tell them to disappear. I never want to see you again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Wow. I was kidding about the second sentence, but disappear. Disappear. Get out of here. Get Go. I said he would analyze all the facts at hand.

That's what I would do. That's a great answer to that conversation. Kristen, what did you I said he would tell us to I said he would tell us to call the cops. I think at the end of the day, day, day, I think he would have to analyze all the facts at hand. Yeah, let's talk about this. There's this is the first question we've really had a had a had a Don't you agree? I definitely wouldn't bury the bot. Like I I think I would talk I can't get I can't get wrapped up in criminal activity like that.

But nor would I call the cops that like behind their back ever. I think I would try to convince that person why the thing to do is just call the cops and I think you'd have to analyze all the facts facts facts or disappear. Yeah. Disappear. You would do the right thing ultimately. Yes. But here's what I'm not willing to bury a body for you or anyone. I am willing to perhaps hear of something something something and just pretend that I never heard of it. Yeah.

Let's change the subject. Yeah. Yeah. We change the subject. We change the subject. He does you do a lot of OCD around that subject. Yeah. subject. Yeah. subject. Yeah. All right. All right. Okay. We'll do we'll do Benny. We'll do Benny. Couple of questions on Benny. Good stuff for Dave. What's something Benny pretends doesn't bother him but actually does? He doesn't really ever pretend. Yes, he does. I do. Okay. Let me try to think. I'm going to try two. Can I You can have two. Kristen could get this right.

What is it? Or do I do mine first? Yes. Benny reveal. Putting things in my fridge incorrectly. I was going to say that. Oh, that's a good answer. I was going to say that. I don't think you pretend that that doesn't happen. I do for anyone else except Kristen. I was going to say I was going to say, but then I'm like, you're so overtly out. out. out. That's why you didn't let me put your stuff in the fridge today. No, no, I didn't put it in.

I just wanted to be taken out a little bit. bit. bit. If he puts out something musically that has the potential to go number one and it doesn't go number one, he'll say to to everyone else, I'm not bothered by not going number one. But I think it bothers him to not go number one, go number two. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If number one is achieve, you know, certain songs they have no chance. Certain albums they have no chance. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um so not going number one.

You're saying if it's achievable. You're saying if it's achieve if like if I'm going to go 60 doesn't matter. But if I'm going to go number two one, you don't have if you have the expectation that a number one is within reach and you go three or two or 10. or 10. or 10. I can relate to that. You're annoyed. Which I will I'll tell you I'm going to tell you my answer after. answer after. answer after. Um and then my other thing is uh Benny's favorite line as of this year is I don't care about anything.

I've never heard Benny say anything more than I don't care about you about anything. And I think uh often times that he'll say that when we're talking about something that we both care about and if it seems like I want something that he doesn't want. doesn't want. doesn't want. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He will say I don't care about anything. But I know he cares. He just wants to stop talking about it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And then I'll answer them all after. Go. Yeah. Go. Mine is not sticking with the plan like with a plan or the plan which is kind of in relation to like I think I don't care about anything.

If you I think if you if you start to feel the loss of control instead, Benny will just be like, I don't care about anything. Doesn't matter. It does. Go on, Benny. You have to defend yourself. yourself. yourself. This thing I don't feel. I don't even understand it really, but I I don't. But don't. But don't. But what do you mean? It's not sticking with the plan. What more do you need to understand? understand? understand? I don't understand the concept. that I don't care about anything is like this to me when I'm having a conversation with someone.

I'll just use Dave as the example. when I'm talking to someone and like usually pretty quickly into a conversation, I can figure out whether this person is going to be like even receptive to like the information that I'm saying or whether I think that they're they have like something made up in their mind and like there's such a minute chance of me changing it and then I say in my head I say, "Well, is this ever going to change? Is it that important if it doesn't?

And then just to nip it in the butt, I'll be like, I don't really care about anything. And then that's my thing with the number one thing. It used to be very true to me. That used to be so true to me. I was fixated on getting the number one at any cost. Like even if it was number 40, like I was like I I like had to I used to be when I was younger, I used to really really care care care so much that I felt like I wasn't even enjoying the things in front of me because I was like so like I'd get the number one like in something I'd be the best at it.

Like I'd have like a number one Billboard record and then I'd be not even like celebrate. I'd be like, "Yeah, yeah, that's cool." And then like move on to the next thing and I wouldn't even think about it. And I feel like I feel like that was so true to me for so many years of my life and honestly until pretty recently until probably like 4 years ago and then it was really solidified solidified solidified honestly with with Selena because I felt like I won. I won it and I already did I already know that like I solidified what I wanted to do and it was like the first time in my life where I didn't care.

That doesn't mean that if it is in sight, I'm going to do everything in my physical power to try to do the best thing I can because that's just the type of person I am. I love the competition. I love striving for the greatness, but it doesn't have the same importance that it did have on me for so long. It used to have me in like a chokeold and then like I felt like I was finally freed of that like in the last like four or five years and it was like so freeing.

But I understand both sides. I completely do. Yeah, I can relate to it. Yeah, it. Yeah, it. Yeah, I understand. Like I used to be the guy looking every week at the chart seeing if we were getting clo and I was so I put so much importance on it and I don't even know why I did because I didn't even care when I got it like but I think I did care but I was so fixated on getting the I probably just relieved when you got it.

Yeah. Yeah. I think I was probably just relieved and it was like such a rat race and I'm so happy to be free of it. But I do also understand that side of me when I was so into it cuz I'm like, "Yeah, that's cool to do that." But it is also cool to be like totally free of it. And I think the healthy medium is probably somewhere in the middle. Somewhere in the middle. Yeah. Well, thank you guys. Thank you for playing. That started off some really intense conversations.

intense conversations. intense conversations. We can do a few more or I can take you to our ending three questions. I'd like to do a few more. Enjoy writing on the board. You guys should cancel all your plans after I'm staying. All right. Okay. These are more fun ones. Who is most likely to survive a zombie apocalypse? Now you get to freefor-all. Write down anyone. When it has to be out of the three of us. us. us. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Three, two, one, reveal. What you said?

Oh, why Benny? Everyone chose the same bathroom. Why Benny? I just have more skill. Like I'm the last. No question. That's between those two. And I just think men physically are stronger than women. What? What? What? Physically, Physically, Physically, right? But why would that have to come into battle? I'm going I thought it was like going by like the resourcefulness. Well, then I definitely would win because I feel like I can strategically person's pretty athletic, too. No, I just mean Well, yeah. Well, yeah. Well, yeah.

I don't know. My instinct was to say, it's not me. I'm the I'm the last. Well, everyone rated each other on different score cards. Okay, what's the next? All right, the next question is, who takes the longest to reply to text? You're pretty responsive with me. He responds to every Oh, Kristen. No, Kristen's so good. Oh, she Kristen's terrible. I don't even I thought you always made fun of me and I never respond. I actually think Kristen's worse than you. I just don't respond because both of them Does she respond to you?

Kristen has never texted me since we met. So that that that says it all. Kristen will respond to only me and she responds to me relatively timely. Benny will respond to and she doesn't respond to anyone else ever. No, it's that's not true. Let me say this. I mean, I do I did I do have a little bit of anxiety with texting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I and I don't like to ever feel like I have to do like I don't wake up in the morning and read my text.

Like, I think that's where I am going wrong. And now I have like I think 1,600 unread text messages. messages. messages. It's going to be it's going to be a lot more DMs and Well, I don't look at my DMs. I've never looked at DMs. She's not public. No, but now, but I don't even look at my friends. Dave has still not going to be public. No, we'll see. I don't think you should. I like Benny. Benny responds to every text like no matter what. Yes, agree.

Yes, agree. Yes, agree. It's just there's like a 72-hour backup. You're pretty and he does it, you know, he's doing it in the morning and it will like sometimes he'll respond to like a text that doesn't even make sense anymore and you'll just get like haha. He'll respond to like a group chat like two days later and and it's so not relevant anymore. relevant anymore. relevant anymore. Everyone's moved on. But he's still catching up. Yeah, he's catching up. I text in spurts. Like you'll you'll if if if I'm like paying attention to my phone, I'll have a I'll be there.

Kristen like you know her parents will be like, "Hey, do you think you could tell Kristen to respond to Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got a text on the way here from my mom that was saying, "Hey, could you read the family text and please respond?" No way. way. way. And I thought, I am in the car. She's the worst at text. She really is. Rod's the same. It's hard. Yeah, Rod's the same. My phone's a beeper. It's just for emergencies. emergencies. emergencies. I'll respond instantly with way too much.

with too much. I appreciate that though because then I feel like there's texture to the text and like we can actually get someone. Okay, I'll text you just so you know that I'm capable. I'm I'm waiting for that text. I've been texting with these guys for like a year and a half now. Yeah. Well, Yeah. Well, Yeah. Well, okay. Next one. Who would accidentally start a cult? Go for it. Reveal. Oh, me. You put me in it. I'm not one of the people. I'm not a cult.

cult. cult. No, I was trying to think. We wouldn't be your yours. You're you have more of like the soothing thing like your your your message could like re like being like tranquil like no one wants to join our cult. our cult. our cult. The reason I said Kristen I only said Kristen because Kristen because Kristen because we don't I I could definitely be like a cult. cult. cult. Kristen, everyone likes Kristen and Kristen loves everyone she meets and thinks she's going to be the best friend.

That is true. So it's like so many people that she runs into she she could end up thinking that they're going to be close and then all of a sudden there's like, you know, a cult somehow. I don't know. Yeah. Okay. Did you style your hair to be like us today? Yeah. I was like, it's very style. My hair is always like this. Yeah. You guys all have like a similar look. look. look. This is the first time we've had three people with curly hair on the show at the same time.

You got the staff. Did they give you all these? I'm making them up. I'm making them up. them up. them up. First time we've had three. Three people with curly hair. You guys do have the same hairstyle. They do. So, we have like variations of like longer. Would it like fro out? Yeah. It's like my hair is like My hair's like this naturally. Yeah, but it's like I feel like it's it's like evolution of hair is like me to Dave to Betty. It's like it's like that.

It's like evolution. evolution. evolution. It is evolution. What do you guys say? Evolution. Evolution. Evolution. But we I like evolution. Aluminium. Aluminium. Aluminium. Aluminium. Yeah. Aluminum is what you Oh, you call it aluminium. Aluminium. Aluminium. Aluminium. There's another few word. There's one word that you I can't think of it now and it's unfortunate. The food. The food. What do you call There's one word you always say. I can't remember it, but you say different. No, it's like it's like it's like also people say they say so you in America you would say like his name is Dave, but like if we were British we would say he's called Dave.

How do you say innovative? Innovative. That's what innovative. That's what you said. Yeah, innovative. I had to think about it now cuz I hear it. Nonchalant. You said funny too. I don't think he said normal. Oh, no. He said it said something different. different. different. I said, "Do you want me to be less shaling around?" shaling around?" shaling around?" Wow. I like I like Shalon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Shalan. Maybe I should change. All right. These are the last three because these are You don't have to write for these anymore.

These were questions given by So before the show, you can keep those whiteboards. They're yours. I'll sign them. No, no, we won't keep. We got to recite. I asked you each for a question you'd like me to ask the other two people in the room. the room. the room. Oh, yeah. This is hard. So, these are the questions you gave. We'll start with Benny. So, Benny's question to both of you, and the answer has to be in one sentence. I'll maybe let you expand. The question from Benny is, "How do you separate work from your relationship?

If you're disagreeing in work, does it spill over into personal and vice versa?" I would say that we Well, I think you've been a part of it. I Dave and I are really This is like the one thing that's great about our relationship. And now I feel similarly with Benny is that we can we can like have arguments and we can get upset with each other and then like instantly kind of once we feel like we've turned over the stones in the argument or like gotten to a place, it's never carried over.

Like we've never been Have we ever been mad more than a day? If even if a day. I don't even think we've ever been mad for a full day. day. day. I've never been mad for Oh. Oh, you guys. Yeah. Are you asking about us, too? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I was. But then you said something about me. about me. about me. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. How's Yeah. How's Yeah. How's it going, Dave? Kicking my foot. Take it away. Uh, I think he asked the question because we work so we like beyond even just uh our multimedia uh creation.

Um, you know, any script she writes, I'm I'm a part of that with her. Any script I write, she's a part of that with me. So, it's really I mean, she's not a part of my musical process, so that's my I get separation there. Um because she likes more poppy stuff that I and just like No. Is that true? No, she doesn't like No, she's the opposite. She likes less poppy. poppy. poppy. One time I gave you a bunch of thoughts. She doesn't, you know, she doesn't like to show me his music.

I hate showing her my music. She doesn't listen to lyrics. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I could show her a recording of me where the verses are ho and she would like that just as much as me like doing really clever lyrics. Oh, he also we we we tried he tried to show me his music once, but it was so I had to he literally like pulled up the chair directly in front of the computer was blasting the the speakers were blasting and I wasn't allowed to move and I just it had to be under his I hate the way he sets up the experience.

He's like you have to sit there. I tell him I'm not sitting there or don't show me the music. Yeah. So then I feel like this is about what we don't like about Dave again. That was not the question that By answer Benny's original question, how do we separate? I mean, we we I I selfishly don't always feel the need to because I when we're talking about work or whatever we're working on, I I find it so inspiring and fun and like I'm just like to me there's like nothing more fun to talk about now.

So, I look at it as like this is great. I get to have fun with my best friend and we're being productive at the same time. Now, you know, sometimes I feel like, you know, I remember when I originally started dating Kristen and I learned that she kind of has the same exact interests and passions professionally as I do. I did have the thought, oh man, like would I is it would I be better off marrying someone who was like an English teacher and there was like complete separation of church and state.

But now seeing the opposite, I'm so happy that we get to connect over the thing because like, you know, I think there's just such a joy to me when I get to talk about the things I care the most about in life, which unfortunately is work. Now, I'm not working like some corporate drudgery job. I'm working on like the self-expression of my soul. So, yeah, it's it's different to be like, oh, there's no separate I'm not like working at an accounting firm. Like, I'm talking about, about, about, you know, how to tell these stories that I feel born to tell.

and she's it's fun. Like we're talking about funny creative But But But you've helped me become I would say that like you've you've given me more confidence professionally. The good thing about us working together is you've given like I feel like over the few years that we've kind of like really co- meshed our professional lives. I kind of come from come from a place of like more self-doubt and like insecurity. And he's really helped me get like the kind of confidence to even be doing this and writing and stuff.

I feel like it's been really I'm so thankful that I you're like a good mentor and a husband. Great answers, guys. Beautiful. Really nice. That felt good. But we should we should we should go on more dates without talking about the task that that's the newest thing that I've had to say. I I think sometimes I'll be like, especially with the anxiety that I've had, which I'm on a new path forward and I'm a new person and I no longer create this self-inflicted torture of like anxiety about the podcast in particular.

But there was a period where I was like, we have to stop talking about work all the time because I can't like mentally break away break away break away from it. And it was I just I I wasn't but now I'm now you can sign me up. What was the time where I was like, I don't want to talk about this right now. And you kept talking. Oh, you were home. Doesn't matter. Okay. Cuz I was about to like do something with music where I just had to be in like the state of mind that and I was in such a good mood.

I had no anxiety about anything with like the the podcast or whatever you want to call it. And she I said, I don't want to talk about it right now. And she just wanted to talk about it. Well, that this is an interesting I did start going to therapy because I was like, it's important that he can't always be the like I have such a tendency when I have anxiety to like for me to get over my anxiety. I have to say every thought that I have, which it used to be okay.

I mean, I'm sure it's exhausting for him, but it used to not be so related to what he was doing. So therapy has been helpful because instead of like taking him on, which he's still very supportive, but like I don't have to like I felt like I was like bringing him down. So the therapy now is a lot easier for me to like just mentally spiral and then I'm not putting it on you. So we've learned a little we've we've kind of like started to create some boundaries.

And I learn now not to get her worked up when she's in bed. And I know not to like if I sometimes I'm I come in and I come up with an idea of like we should do this that and that and she and she needs to sleep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, no. I just would get like revved up and excited. Yeah. Me and my wife are like so like I'm the one who comes to bed and wants to chat and talk and like and she does not want to and she's like first thing in the morning wants to chat and talk and I'm like I need to like gear up slowly.

So I get that. That's beautiful. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We need to thaw out. I have to thaw out in the morning though. So, this was Kristen's question for Benny and Dave. Do you guys talk about me when I leave the room? You have to answer honestly. Not really. Not really. No. Cool. Cool. Cool. Not Not really. This was a hard thing to a hard question. I couldn't think of it. It's a good question. I like it. The only time I remember uh that is at New Year's when I was like, "What are you guys talking about?" And then you he Dave said, "I'm not at liberty to tell you." And then he said he said and he was just and then I was like, "All right." And then we just started talking about something else.

And then when you came over, you were like, "Are you talking about me?" And we weren't talking about you. It's a question I ask a lot. This paranoia that as soon as I leave the room, but I know that I'm It's mostly more of a joke. I know you guys are. No, we never really talk trash. No, we're positive. Oh, do you guys say positive things? Pretty positive to both of us. Do you say positive things behind my back? Like, wow. You said no. You just said no.

said no. said no. No. No. No. Yeah. I've said like I'm Yeah. I've said like I'm was so blown away by how well uh Kristen's done. Like I remember we talked about that before. So you guys we talk about you the way I don't know guys talk about their wives or is that like we're not like talking about you professionally that often? Yeah. There's never and there's never Do you guys not do you not have this fear? fear? fear? Dave's never call. No, I don't think No, I live on I always am like think about that like are they all talking about you guys are talking about me?

No. And if they and if you guys are talking about me, oh that either there's a reason or like they're upset with something or I don't care. I think I care I I care too much what people think. So I'm always like even though it's like kind of half joking, I will I thought everybody felt this way. Be like Be like Be like a lot of people do feel. Yeah. Like be like as soon as I leave I'll be like I wonder even if it's not bad.

I just wonder if they're being like, "Yeah, she was talked a lot that time or she said that really bad question." question." question." She has so much self-doubt and like circular thoughts of negativity that are the our brains are like un un un so much of that is women's conditioning in society, treatment of women in in society. Like that's my take on I was going to say that. I was going to say say say and and ADD. No, I'm being serious. I mean deadly serious. When I talk to all my male friends, they all feel the same way.

female friends, they all that's just that's just that's just been a little bit more um it's been more exaggerated just because of the like the uncertainty about all of this being public. I feel like I live your hair's in your mouth. I'm sorry. You couldn't see it from me at all. I didn't see it either. It just was. It was was was in her mouth. I I tell him to do this thing. Thank you. you. you. Yeah. It's beautiful. Um, yeah, it's been exacerbated because you're dealing Me and Benny are also, even though, yes, we're men, we're like the the the you've been public for so long, but we're like the two.

No one believes in themselves more than me and Benny. Like, we don't think we're just like, so it's like that compared to self-doubt, it makes it feel even more of a Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm doing a lot better because I realized realized realized that I realized that so much of my self-doubt is like my default narrator, like in my head. Mhm. And I feel like this podcast will help me. me. me. I don't know. I could just crumble. No, No, No, you guys, you might never see me again.

Not in a bad way. Aware. You're so aware. I think, you know, I think part of it is just as hard as you are in yourself, you don't give yourself enough credit as well, but like you're so aware of what's going on in your mind. I think I think if you're not aware, that's when it's really really I Yeah. All right. Final question. This was Dave's question. I saved what I believed to be the best for last. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. This is Dave's question.

So Dave's question to Kristen and Benny is if I died, how often would you guys hang out or see each other? Wow. Wow. Wow. I feel like if you die, that'd be so heartbreaking and we'd be sharing. We'd be like experiencing similar pain. Well, me more, but I can't speak on half of I maybe would be I don't know frequently. I don't know. like as much as we could. But But But Chuck, first I'd obviously I would edit all the things to I know how you would like them and I'd find a way you get the right features.

right features. right features. Yeah, I'd find First I was talking about the show then for then I'd edit I'd Yeah, I'd make sure to get the right features. We've spoken enough about I' I'd be able to at least there's like 15 songs I could cobble together to something great and I would do that and I would make sure not. But would you hang out with me? 15 songs I could cobble together. No, no, no, no. To make something like truly like truly like truly like would you do it hanging out with me?

Isn't that the No, no, no. This was she would she be involved. Would you involve her in the album? album? album? No. Clearly he's not in that. No, no, no. But I would involve her in her in her in like the roll out. No. Oh, no. I didn't involve her. Would I still be invited to like the dinner parties? dinner parties? dinner parties? Yeah, I think I would hang out with you. I think you would Well, I'd like you to fill like my my Dave ro like I feel like you'd I feel like I'd be calling you like every day and it would be so you can't you have to we have to protect you at all cost.

Or or would you guys be so reminded of me when you saw each other that you'd actually have to never see each other ever again? ever again? ever again? No. No. No. We'd see each other all the time. time. time. If I died, would you guys just replace me? No. What? In the show? No, it would just be a two person show. What? No, it would be done. Yeah. Or would we keep I don't know. No, I wouldn't be that No, I wouldn't be that interested anyway.

interested anyway. interested anyway. I'm glad you got all the footage though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No one's dying. I hate talking about this. Even though I know that we've got footage again. Everyone needs facts and facts and facts and you brought it up. I am so I mean just spending time with you makes me just love the show even more. But I want to say to all of you like truly you guys trusting me, giving me this opportunity to do this with you has been uh a highlight of my professional career like to work with all three of you because it's very rare that when you're like, you know, when I started my podcast 7 years ago, I never thought I'd be helping create something amazing with the vision of all three of you.

And I'm feel so lucky and fortunate. So, thank you for the gift. Thank you for the blessing and uh thank you for all your opportunity. We feel just the same way. We love you. You're you're our mentor. You're our guru. guru. guru. I'm definitely No, don't don't stop making me this hot leader though. No, no, I wasn't. What? No, you're you're you're like the you're you're you're so good to bounce all this stuff. I feel like you've already laid, you know, laid the ground. We're just trying to I don't think it's that.

You guys had a vision. You know what you're building. I think it's been it's it's been fun getting the opportunity to be a part of it. That's how I feel about it. So, thank you for letting me be part of your crazy creative vision. Thank you for hearing our our desires and not scoffing at them and doing your best to make it all happen. Yeah, absolutely. Friends keep secrets. Excuse on on friends on purpose. Friends on purpose on three. One, two, three. Friends on purpose. If you love this episode, you'll really enjoy my episode with Selena Gomez on befriending your inner critic and how to speak to yourself with more compassion.

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