Being Fat and Fit Is Objectively Better Than Being Skinny and Unfit Here's the Data | Mind Pump 2928
Stop chasing the lowest possible body-fat percentage at the expense of strength, energy, and consistency. Today, do one session that builds usable fitness—lift weights, play a sport, or take a brisk walk—and fuel it with enough food to recover. The episode’s central point is that trained muscle, str
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Key Takeaway
Stop chasing the lowest possible body-fat percentage at the expense of strength, energy, and consistency. Today, do one session that builds usable fitness—lift weights, play a sport, or take a brisk walk—and fuel it with enough food to recover. The episode’s central point is that trained muscle, strength, and cardiovascular capacity are more protective for health than merely appearing thin; aim to build a capable body rather than endlessly diet down.
Episode Overview
The hosts argue that, while excess body fat still carries health risks, being physically trained at a higher body weight is generally healthier than being normal-weight but untrained and weak. They discuss strength, VO2 max, muscle mass, adequate calorie intake, body image, and practical training questions on core work, dieting, back stability, and fasted morning workouts.
Key Insights
Fitness Matters More Than the Scale Alone
The hosts say inactivity raises all-cause mortality risk across BMI categories. Their central comparison is that an active, stronger person with excess weight can have similar—or sometimes better—longevity outcomes than an inactive person at a normal weight.
Build the Body You Want Instead of Starving Toward It
Aggressive restriction may create a thinner look while leaving someone weak, under-fueled, and vulnerable to injury. Prioritize resistance training, activity, and sufficient nutrition so body composition improves alongside strength, energy, and quality of life.
Trained Muscle Is More Valuable Than Muscle on Paper
The discussion distinguishes lean mass from trained lean mass. Strength, mobility, and VO2 max reflect whether muscle is actually being used and may be more meaningful health markers than muscle size alone.
Adequate Calories Support Training Benefits
The hosts note that chronically under-eating can leave people tired, anxious, low in libido, and unable to recover from exercise. If training makes you feel depleted, assess total daily food intake before simply adding more exercise.
Train the Core Through Multiple Functions
For a resilient core, include spinal flexion through a full range of motion, resisted rotation, and anti-rotation/stability work. The hosts suggest a cable “lumberjack” movement and a loaded full-range sit-up on a fitball as efficient options.
Frameworks or Models
Three-Function Core Training
1. Train trunk flexion and extension through a full range of motion, such as a fitball crunch or sit-up. 2. Add a resisted rotational exercise for the obliques, such as a cable lumberjack. 3. Include anti-rotation work that resists being pulled out of position, such as a plank variation. Select movements from each category for a balanced core routine.
Morning Workout Fuel Decision Process
1. Start with personal preference and observe whether you feel strong or lethargic when training fasted. 2. Check whether skipping pre-workout food prevents you from meeting daily calorie and macronutrient targets, particularly protein. 3. If workout energy or intake is inadequate, add a small protein shake, carbohydrate drink, or other tolerable pre-training fuel.
Notable Quotes
"better build the body you want you want than try to "cut" themselves to the desired forms."
"Calories, ladies and gentlemen Gentlemen, this is energy."
"physical exercises—this the most powerful antidepressant, which we know."
"It is much more work. Yes. Why not Why just don't burn fat and preserve the muscles so didn't have to to pass through this whole process?"
Action Items
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Schedule one capability-focused workout
Today, complete a manageable session: 20-45 minutes of resistance training, a recreational sport, or brisk walking. Track a performance measure such as repetitions, load, distance, or pace rather than judging success by calories burned.
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Replace extreme dieting with a recovery check
Before cutting more calories, assess whether you have stable energy, good training performance, adequate protein, and recovery. If you are constantly fatigued or sore, add a balanced meal or snack and reassess for one to two weeks.
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Use a three-function core circuit
Choose one full-range trunk-flexion movement, one resisted-rotation movement, and one anti-rotation exercise. Perform 2-3 controlled sets of each two or three times weekly, increasing load only while technique stays solid.
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Test your morning-training fuel preference
For a standard 45-60 minute morning workout, try training after your usual evening meal. If energy or daily protein intake suffers, experiment with a small protein shake or carbohydrate drink before or during training.
Full Transcript
Transcript of Being Fat and Fit Is Objectively Better Than Being Skinny and Unfit Here's the Data | Mind Pump 2928 from Mind Pump Show. Auto-generated from episode audio; may contain minor errors.
Okay, that could be it. controversial, but this truth. Are you ready? To be complete and better trained than skinny and untrained. We are going parse the data. We we are all gathering analyze. We Let us explain to you what this is. actually objectively better. Justin long ago tried this for us say. Fat people. Fat people. So, I think before we will start a conversation, we need to clarify some moments, okay? Excess weight. Have percentage of fat in body above a certain mark— if you look at data for men, this is about 20%, for women—about 30%, plus or minus depending from man—this really affects health.
Therefore, regardless of level your physical preparation, excessive the amount of fat above a certain level always will negatively affect to your health. We are not we say that this is one and the same the same, or what is it not? It matters. We we say that, comparing these two states, just comparing them among themselves, if you have extra weight, but you trained, you are much the best by majority indicators, if not behind everyone, than someone, who has insufficient weight, but not trained. And we We are talking about this because that we often desire to look thin and untrained, because we think that this will make us happier, though actually given indicate contrary.
Well, this quite wide range, right? for men up to 20%, for women up to 30%. This gives great flexibility. AND yes, from a personal point of view experience, I think that felt healthiest when this indicator was about 15%. Yes. You know, then I have was the best energy, the best sleep and the best total strength. In addition, the easiest support balanced way life when I can to afford to have a drink with my wife dinner. I don't everything is needed track and weigh. I think this is relatively simple a condition that is easy support.
As only you trying to achieve unambiguous indicators for husband, to support such low weight becomes real work. AND then I would argue that I am not the strongest . I'm not sleeping well. I not the healthiest. The only thing that works on me at that moment—this aesthetics. How are you? Do you look? Well, and even about that we we can argue . So, if you look on data regarding longevity, then categories of people who have the worst duration indicators life is very untrained, very fat people and weak people person.
and untrained. In fact, weakness is higher factor risk in many cases, especially with age. So, weakness is defined as underweight and weakness, right? Lack of strength, weakness. this has some of the worst indicators mortality, which we we see. So it is important understand the difference between them. Regarding longevity when you look at the data, it's quite impressive, so that I raised some research. I found a few best research , which I was able to find from about this. And here it is what they discovered. Untrained people in each BMI category were about two- three times higher risk mortality from all reasons.
So, to be untrained in any what weight is significant increases your risk mortality from all reasons. Trained people with excessive weight or obesity have risks similar to to—or in many cases, according to meta-analysis, even better than in untrained people with normal weight. So, if you are a man and have 15% fat in the body—enough You have a good physique. you are not overweight, but you just walk to work, you are returning home, don't do it sports, you don't trained. man, which is 50 pounds heavier. Okay, that is.
50 pounds more fat mass. It a significant number, but he also trained, strong and has a certain cardiovascular vascular endurance —he has the same or better performance longevity than you. That's it. This shows, how important is it to be physical prepared for longevity. 50 pounds. Yes. This is our type. powerlifter? I wouldn't use it. this is an example because it's still an extreme. it. Yes. When we we are talking about professional athletes, we are already donating health. I mean, maybe "Weekend athlete" ". Yes. So, what show data This is probably the best way to describe someone who competes, as heavyweight.
I'm glad you did. said, because in they don't show and not use elite results level, right? So when I say " trained, I don't have meaning I'm running triathlons or what am I the strongest guy in the hall. you lift weight and you are active. You active. You do you play sports systematically. You pretty good prepared in compared to others. Listen, I want go back to those 50 pounds you're talking about said. This is relatively what you are saying about 15%. I imagine mine a friend who weighs somewhere between 170 and 180 pounds, has about 15-18% fat and not is training.
Yes. Well, he's just not very eats well. He moving. He has physical work. He moves a lot and, You know, of course not. overeats, has quite active lifestyle, but not does sports, does not train with weights . Yes. With its weight of about 170 pounds Another plus 50 pounds. This is not quite ideal. comparison, because if your friend played sports Yes. He would have more muscles on the body. Of course. Yes. Muscles are, mostly, determining factor. Power. Yes. Well, this physical form. Glad, What did you say?
Well, it seems that's it. This is what I am trying to do. reach. I'm trying. I'm trying... I call the number. just to make it better explain. Yes. But the data shows adiposity. Okay. THERE ARE overweight, obesity and extreme stage of obesity. We not there yet, but overweight/ adiposity- Yes. It's better to be in shape, than to have a normal weight with bad form. You have a lot. fat, but at the same time enough muscles, and this means...you're in shape. This means that he had would be on...Okay, the limit obesity for men on which equal?
25. Yes. They are not looking at percentage of fat. They looking at BMI, but let's say he's on equal... say, 24. Say, 25. So, let's say, now he has 15%. He rose to 25% fat. Yes. Yes. So, you you add... But now he athletic. Now he ... runs. So these 50 pounds which he probably typed— that's 20 muscle, 30 fat, perhaps. Perhaps. Just to... I don't know which one. the percentage of fat is would mean, but let's say he became 50 pounds heavier. Yes. And the percentage of its fat increased to 25%.
Yes. But now he can move, can run , can lift weights. He is the same, or, as show a lot data, best, than he is now. And I I will argue that he is better at others categories. Not only ... the most important The indicator is probably this muscle tissue and that, how it affects your metabolism. 100%. from sensitivity to insulin to stock energy. let's do this Let's move on. Yes. This is what I mean. , one of the best results of all years of training—this metabolic the flexibility I have today.
possibility to go a little further framework, and literally on last week I did it checked. Past I consumed during the week quite a few calories. I saw how much I was exhausted. Weight fell somewhere around six- seven pounds. Wife always comments: "You you look too much "thin." I tell her: " Relax. I just now exhausted. She says, "No." Don't worry, eat. sandwich, and you'll see difference." My wife would never she didn't say that knows what's what. Yes. Yes. She knows. She knows. She knows, What I went through.
So everything is fine. Exactly Yes. I always say: " Honey, I don't..." I say, who dropped a few pounds, but this mostly water and glycogen. And now you're not taking pictures. shirt. What are you, Guys, are you working out? Yes. Yes. Yes. My Winnie the Pooh chip . Yes. You know, I do. That's right. I turn off the light. Yes. Yes. But, in the end, we were at the event with the car last weekend. We stopped at hotels, ate at restaurants, drinking, and I even, as I said, ordered that dessert.
Well, you got it. So I ate desserts. Long I didn't do that. And that's it. filled up, and she... And it's not fat. Oh yeah, that's not fat. I did nothing. The next day she says: "God, you You look so great. ". I answer: "Yes, I just ate a bunch. calories, and muscles filled." And what you saw 4 days ago— this is the look when I I hold on for a long time low-calorie diet and exhausting stocks. It's simple. incredible. I I'm telling you about it.
because if I had there were no these muscles volumes if I didn't worked out these muscles, then all that extra food in such a day—she overflows and leaves in fat deposits, whereas a person who gained 20 pounds muscles, has huge, as it were, tanks for storage, which no one has it without these 20 pounds. And so that it was clear when you look again, I know I'm simplifying, but I'm trying do it But you drew very a clear picture, and, again, so that it would be it's clear when you look at the data that we're...okay, dry mass body is very important, but even more important trained dry mass bodies, you understand?
Because when you look at these research on mortality risk or longevity, they are checking the result is strength or VO2 max. They are not are looking at that, " How many muscles do you have? on the body." Of course, greater muscle mass most often, in in most cases, means better physical shape, better strength and best mobility. But they have to be active. They should be in tone. Yes. That's how it is. Because in there might be someone just genetic more muscles, but the person is out of shape.
Yes . Absolutely out of shape, and they will not get those protective advantages, what about someone who has less muscle, let's say, but these are trained muscles. Yes. These are active muscles. Here what is great, great difference. Right. Right. Because there is more in my words one level: me really make these muscles work throughout week, which also spends a lot more energy than if you just trained and did everything...yes. So, you have these larger tanks for storage, which are also active tanks that need even more energy because you force them work.
So this is double benefit. That's why you hear how we are talking about this, especially to many our listeners, who want to lose weight or get rid of fat: better build the body you want you want than try to "cut" themselves to the desired forms. This is much better. version. Quality of life higher, because, you know, try maintain a deficit balance, and also to be in bad form— Let's call it weakness. This is not very high. quality of life. Before everything, you often limit yourself if you just don't have it some disease or an eating disorder behavior that is a separate category, although there is a lot here tangential, but there are many people who just limit themselves.
Maybe they don't have it. clinical diagnosis eating disorder behavior, but they constantly afraid gain weight, so simply restrict himself. They are not very are doing a lot sports. Them like to be " "thin", but with This is what they are weak at. Their quality of life much worse than if they had, let's say 10% more fat, but at the same time were physically active. This gives a bunch of other advantages, such as energy and everything is so different. And also flexibility, because you already Don't be so afraid.
vulnerable. I have on mind, before any what virus, well, of course, this affects bones to the level that when others suffer fabrics, because you don't provide resistance load. So yes, you become vulnerable to all sorts of potential injuries and illnesses. Worst category people, as defined specialists, with the highest risk of complications after operations or chronic diseases—this people with weak health. Yes. This is the worst. You are going for surgery, and you are weak. Oh, oh. Or are you serious? got sick, and you already exhausted. Recovery is simple horror.
This is no good. Let's do it again. Let's see. This is just numbers, friends. If look at percentage of people who have diabetes, heart disease or cancer, having normal or insufficient weight, because we know that overweight itself itself is a factor risk. If you are in in form, that's a lot changes, but in a certain way excess fat is risk factor diabetes, heart disease and cancer. We know this. And yet it exists a significant percentage, not most, but significant fraction—tenths millions of people in America, which have normal or underweight, but still sick with diabetes, cancer and heart disease diseases.
And they are all out of shape. One and all. You say all the time about "weakness", right? And I think that most people automatically imagine themselves elderly. Yes. elderly. We have many weak people, but not old people. Well, do you remember? Do you remember? guys, your first such an experience? Me it was just...probably, somewhere 22. That is, I worked personal only two coaches years. And I had, it seems like she Was she a cheerleader? She was cheerleader or model. Very beautiful, very thin, very slim girl.
I assessed her body, she hired me for training, and I measured the percentage fat, and thought that I'm doing something wrong because he was too tall . Because she looked very thin, you know ? But at the same time she has there was no muscles. And I constantly repeated it again and again, trying to look confident, as if he knew what he was doing. I I think: it doesn't matter. no sense. It was my first one like this experience in this regard. I have also seen the opposite: someone was super-relief, and I thought they would more massive.
So, I I remember both of these. extreme cases, and I I remember asking. her about diet, and she ate, type, celery. Yes. To maintain weight. Yes. She is constantly limited herself to just keep the weight off at this level. She hired me, to help to build up a little muscles and all that, but I couldn't believe it, how high could be a percentage fat in such a thin woman human. Mhm. And it was simply amazing. me. This was mine. first experience. Me was somewhere around 22.
Of course, in I had others too. cases. I had a lot such. And I told this story history long ago, if you remember, I trained... one of the players' wives "49ers". Er... Oh yes. Yes. Yes. He Samoan, and he has Samoan wife. It was the first time I ...we all, probably learned very well to estimate weight a person's eye, somewhere from accurate to 5-10 pounds . This is a skill of a coach. Yes. Yes. AND I would break those scales. Yes. I am very into this.
good. I am very...I am became a real pro. And I'm pretty smart, to know: if mine The client gets on the scales. , and I have to guess, then I I will underestimate the indicator. I I'll lower it a little so as not to to get whipped Do you understand what I mean? AND I will never forget how this girl stood on weights, right? She is wonderful. girl. And I saw that she is, you know, quite strong, you understand? And I I think to myself: "Probably, She weighs about 170.
pounds, but I'll start with marks 155, 160". Do you understand what I mean? So I put the weight on, and she is not moving. I such: I'll move it up another five. I'll move it a little further. She weighs 201 pounds. Okay. But the percentage of fat in her incredible low. She is in lower limit athletic indicators. And when she picked up T-shirt, you thought b about the press. Yes. Just solid Muscles, man. It was so strange to see. It shows how much there are different types body: this girl weighs 200 pounds, but she is very fit and all in muscles.
Well, here's another one. nuance: how many times we got a call, I I will just give you example. How many times we were called people we advised to increase calorie content. On- First, we often we are faced with a certain the bias of those who who is prone to restrictions, right? Because they fitness enthusiasts. They are listening to the show. They are calling on help. Everything we we do it often we advise them to increase calories, and what they are they say when Are they coming back?
I have a lot more energy. This is real transformation. I feel completely fine. otherwise. Yes. Calories, ladies and gentlemen Gentlemen, this is energy. Yes. If you consume not enough if consume evenly enough to survive, because I always limit, you have there is no surplus energy for confidence. Yes. Or creativity for creation, or libido, or energy for anything other. Do you feel? bad. Often tired, perhaps depressed or disturbing, and the reason may be just a lack of nutrients substances. Yes. We talked earlier. with one man, this is one of the biggest reasons for the plateau.
That's right. We talked. with a guy who raised calorie content per a thousand, and he returns. He says: "My God, in much more than me energy". He didn't type either. pound on the scales. Didn't get any pound. And what did they give? additional 60 days increase by 1000 calories? That's right. If you consume not enough calories and you get tired of on a normal day, not God willing, add more training, isn't that right? And then you don't you get none benefits of exercise. You just not provide for yourself fuel.
And physical exercises—this the most powerful antidepressant, which we know. So being in shape, you have more energy, a better worldview, better attitude towards life and the best mood. You will not receive no benefit from exercises, if not nourish the body without giving him nutrients for restoration. So yes, it's kind of useless waste of time. Besides, you feel less pain. Yes, to be weak— means more to suffer from pain Point. End history. Risk injuries are increasing to heaven. Your CNS constantly trying protect joints due to instability caused by your weakness because you not enough eat.
And that's why you moving suboptimal, and then wonder why you get repeated injuries, sprains Do you feel pain? Be fit and strong, of course, for conditions of correct training, means you are in pain much less. But appearance is like this powerful force. I'm glad you brought it up. this topic, Justin, because I studied the data. How beautiful actually contributes luckily, if separate it from other factors, truth? Because you can to say that it is beautiful appearance enhances chances of meeting someone with whomever you want to go on a date.
So there is value here. for relationships. But, you know when you separate all this, just a better look compared to the worst, What do I care about? I will argue, but let's assume that this objective truth, we will dispel it, actually it's small affects the level happiness, in other words , the numbers are almost are changing, so if you are six points ahead, and you waste all your time and energy to reach nine, Yes, you will only rise a little. But is it fair? separate these other things?
Rightly. Why? This is quite rightly. Why is this fair? Because if you... Can you indicate, let me to express oneself like this. What part of this, to What will we achieve? as a result of how yourself perceive, compared to how Do other people see you? In other words, is your confidence, and the way you go out in people, communicate, your energy, and that the fact that you feel better because you have become stronger, and what you have more freedom in food choices, so you go out with people and socialize—what part of this plays a role in Do you have friends?
Can this be measured? projected confidence? One hundred percent. I mean, this a valid argument. Yes , that's right. Although, on In my opinion, it is difficult. separate, because if someone—and again, playing the role of a lawyer the devil—will improve myself from six to nine points. Um, we we know how it affects on sale. We know, what does this give for attracting a partner and other things that can also do you happier. So It's hard to just take and reject now, in the ideal world. Okay. Uh, and You know, I'm thinking about it.
as a father: the most important thing is that I I can give it to my to the son—this confidence. I want give him self-confidence. Forget about that. others think. Be confident in who you are, and then it is positive will affect everything different, right? So I I understand the value this, but simply take and separate human transition from six to nine, and how it improves relationships with friends or with the opposite sex ...Let me insert a stick into wheels. Regarding that you say—I'm going spoil this one a little mechanism.
You attract a partner by their appearance. Mhm. Will you have good relationship? If they are based only on your beauty, This is the main thing. This is it. Well, and again, this it is unfair to say yes, because we all are we use our eyes, okay? Those of us who don't blind, first of all see it, but when you saw theirs for the first time You haven't seen your wife. her mind. You saw, that she is attractive, What made you start? to communicate with her, which then revealed to you all her other beautiful ones traits.
But then again, I will add that the happiest marriages— without straying from the topic —these are people over 60, who were together... Yes, I don't argue with with this, you build, your love grows, you you build relationships, but Let's be honest: if Jessica were on a deuce, you wouldn't go to her came up. Well, again, let me add to this when we are talking, I have to I mean, you would... Well, let me. add to this when we are talking about this, that what we see, what we...
It's very gloomy, I know, what we usually do we consider extremes . We are thinking about extreme beauty or extreme unpleasantness. Most people somewhere in the middle and spend all their time and energy for to achieve what they think it's good, which often leads to to thinness and unsportsmanlike conduct, which is not adds happiness. And if to put it all together, this leads to that a person becomes less happy. But let's let's talk about objectivity of beauty. Let me to offer you scenario. Woman with 29% body fat and muscles.
vs. a woman with 20% body fat, who looks weak definitely. Yes. Definitely. Which of them more attractive? Yes. I choose the one that has a good figure, without doubt. And they too They do it to women. When women look in the photo of men, 10% weak, uh 18, 19, 20% muscular. Women almost always, if not every time, choose heavier, stronger a guy who has a little muscle. So, this is also not true. It the belief that we we have, false. And people, who limit themselves this thin, frail condition, have faith in what it supposedly is makes them better.
No, I mean, I I don't deny it. I think we I think, everyone has it, not everyone has it oversimplified, but I think many people have completely distorted view about your own body. I also think that this generates behavior in within these parameters. So if I limit, I limit myself, so you you will transfer this to yours relationship, and the way in which which you interact with, will affect, you know, the the duration of these relationships. Yes. And again, we we are talking about extremes, although 99.9% people who listen, are not in extremes, but we we know very beautiful people in fitness spaces that have many subscribers.
They are extreme. Nobody looks like they. Okay. They popular because what do they look like, but many of them are very unhealthy. Yes. unhappy and unhappy. Yes. So my opinion is, that I don't think so objectively more beautiful. I can to prove it whole day. But even if it was like that, it doesn't work of that result, on which you hope. And I think the direction this is that, what if you really I think, I think, us better is needed research, because I I think that I think there is also a lot of potential for to the other side.
I think, I think that it moves, I think, it very similar to a curve wealth. I think the difference is between poverty and everyone's satisfaction needs. Yes. Life-changing. The difference between everyone's satisfaction needs and condition millionaire, and then millionaire and billionaire, — gradual. Almost none. And the victims, work, effort and everything another to achieve this is a decrease return. Maybe even more unfortunately, because you you achieve this, and this doesn't make you happy. I think that and, uh, well, curve sexuality, as it were you didn't name her, similar to this.
It's like to go from full lack of form, when you don't care about yourself, well, let's say, from unattractiveness, to something about attractive. Well, like, how about that, to just say "y" in good shape and healthy"? Good. In good fit and healthy. That's right. True. So let's replace on "relatively" "attractive". Okay. Because this is the result of that you are in shape and healthy. True. So this is against to do cosmetic surgeries, dry up to 9%, type... I think this gives very insignificant return, perhaps even negative, I I think everything is going well.
approximately like this. And again, here it is why the point is, and I I will give you this. question. If you could click fingers and do something real, what do you think, would make America or a healthier world: leave everyone out relatively higher percentage of fat, but in in great shape, or just do it all skinny? Get rid of seeds oils. World. Well, in short, what whatever. And I think, which ultimately comes down to because if you trained and ate, to become more toned and healthy, you would be much happier and would get better results.
AND side effect would be what you would and looked better. Yes. If you just focused on these things. And that's why I started it with controversial topic that being "fat and in "in shape" is better. I like it. I like that. This is controversial. But, uh... Of course, you I like it. This is my element, guys. Be happy. Eat, you know. Yes. Enjoy life. Oh my God. By the way, speaking of training. Have you seen the video that Adam sent about, It seems like Hoti Chup Shepherd?
I am right. Do I pronounce his name? Oh my God. Did you see this? What? You know what I don't did, so it's not counted. And you? counted? I am not. How many 25-pounders, were they 25-pounders disks? Yes. 25. Didn't you see this? Visit our group chat. Yes. And open it. You saw it, right? I saw. Yes. I came across on this, and, you know, it I was touched because I such... In my opinion, in bodybuilding stories there were several moments, when a bodybuilder did something legendary in the hall, what everyone is talking about, for example, one of them—this is...
Tom Platz squats with 135 pounds for 30 minutes without a break. Oh my God. This was one case, or when he made 315 pounds for 50 reps . There were several cases when Tom Platz was doing something crazy. This is from the same series. Quadzilla. Look. Good. Look. Give me a number. How many pancakes are there? So there are 25. Then they add 25. Count them. I never them didn't count. Three. They just add 45 each. Bro, he does it. He does it. 35 or 25?
What is this? 25. 25s. What? So, they are constantly add 25. How many does he do? I don't know. We will have to Doug, you can. count pancakes? It looks like eight or so. nine now. Dude, what kind of barbell is this? ? So now Oh, it's getting even better. Finished? Bro, he does it twice or three times. Therefore without stopping. Without stopping. What? So what is he? does for people who don't look at this YouTube, and they take them off. This is a bodybuilder. So, he does this.
two or three times. He does not stop at way down. He didn't stop. He is going up again. He does squatting. He has barbell. This is a simulator Smith. They add How many 25s are there? did they add? Uh, 20. 20 total pancakes. Simulator Smith. So, they reached 500 pounds. So, he makes one repeat from 125. Another one repeat with additional ones. So, he comes to 10 pancakes of each side. Then they they take one off, and he repeats with everyone to the very bottom .
Then they add them, and he rises to at the very top. Then they take them off, and he goes down to the very bottom. He makes two or three one-on-one approaches repetition. It would be much it would be cooler if it was real squat. This can't be like this. pyramid, bro. You are not you can do it like a pyramid, bro. Don't just chat about what he does. No, you can't. chat about it. You are not Can you chat about it? . This is This is exactly legendary.
Yes. I don't think I could. would even do it with 2.5-pounders. I have I mean, I'm completely seriously. If you put 2.5-pound along the entire length of each side, such number of squats with our own weight we would I'm not alone in this. This is, uh, this is madness. This is madness. I wanted to I So I didn't I mean, yes. his legs explode. This is just madness. This is a feat of strength that simply Doug, you are the one who has all the tools are there.
What kind of mathematics is that? quickly? You said 10 out of each side, 11 of each side. 10 is 500 pounds. So wow. So he works from 500 pounds to 100. And then from 100 to 50. That is, up to 500, and then back with steps, Do you understand how it is? madly. He starts almost with 100, gradually rises to 500, gradually drops to 100, several times rises to 500 and does every time repetition. It's simple. madness. This is unrealistic. Aha. What about you? What would you...
Okay, I need you. to ask. Tell me about the most legendary the thing you did. I didn't do anything. legendary. Nothing cool. Well, I know Justin did. You are right. I I know you don't. Let's ask Justin. You go. I don't want to brag, dude. I did good pull-ups T -vulture. I took off my shirt. I made a good pull T -vulture. I took off my shirt, and The girls said something. Oh, stop it. OK. Listen, Justin, you are right. was doing something. I have my own story, but I I have to hear yours, because I won't tell you mine if yours will turn out too crazy.
Well, I don't know. Not even I know what this is about. to attribute, except perhaps what records that I installed once. No, I was doing leg presses. with maximum weight there and back. Did you do that? Yes. Yes, we are downloaded all disks, and then filmed. This is cruel. I was doing T-bar pull-ups. It seems to have reached five discs, and then went down. It quite cruel. These are probably the coolest my achievements. I did something once, what I felt for three weeks . I felt it for three weeks.
Okay. I was doing deadlifts. 315 pounds. Made 10 repetitions. 10 approaches , a minute of rest between them. So, 10 times, a minute , 10 times, minute, 10 approaches. on 315 pounds, 10 reps . My God. I used to do that. I was exhausted. I did this with 135 pounds and was also exhausted. Oh yes. One of my...I think I talked about it in podcasts for a long time. When I have a break and I I return to squats with 135 pounds, I just I do 10 sets.
It was short: 10 episodes 10 repetitions, and this was mine in full training. Yes, it is. sounds worse than that what am I Made 30 runs. As Do you like this? What is this? This is, well, a hill, like this slope. Aha. And you're sprinting, there about 40 yards. Are you 30? 30. Oh, it's late. This is killing you. You are not You can do this. So you were running? Sprints. This is not a run. Got it. Yes. OK. I once, I somehow dived with seven life-saving vests on themselves bottom, no, you don't did.
I did. Yes. Yes. We've done this before. Wait, wait, wait. You put on seven vests. You ever- ever done this with...Well, we usually...I'll tell you already told. We have there was a place where we let's go camping annually. Do you remember? I told about trip to Trinity. Good. So we have there have always been games Trinity. And we invented everything these senseless games, they really were absurd. Tins, radio, all that, and one of them was, you know , diving in life jackets, and we, of course, had friends around.
Everyone We had boats. So in there were so many of us How many vests? I wanted to, but near The pier was 10 feet high. depths, and it was necessary to put on a vest, dive down and seize... a handful of mud and grass to prove that you reached the very bottom. You start with one. vest, then two, and So you got to seven. Yes. The one who had most...you can imagine, I have all I dive in these vests bottom to me pushed back. AND it was like...
well, I did something, about What will I tell you now? you will laugh because that's not that impressive . But for me it was importantly. Yes. I was 16, I was on on my BMX, and in my... high school was stage, about 7 meters high feet off the ground if don't take the stairs. Jumped over it. I jumped off the stage. on the grass and was injured. Ovva. But I did it. Although No. I'm like, "Oh, that's not very nice." I rode my bike. AND How about you, Doug?
You there is something too much Quiet, huh? I am silent because I am here. absolutely nothing say. Well, you killed someone, besides this. Well, no need to talk about that. This is not true. People heads, and that's a lot of work, you know, I had enough, I think it's calm. lifestyle. Well, you benched 405 pounds. in the estate. His deadlift. Yes. Its correlation own weight to traction, probably better than any Which of us? I weighed 153 pounds at the time. I 400 pounds in the pull.
Four hundred and five in traction. Yes, that's better than... my peak was 550, and I weighed two hundred and something pounds. So he is in This is better than me. I will add this. So, uh- there are I knew he could more. Yes. When I was in state University of San Jose, I played a little bit. rugby. And that was the very first the training I'm at came. I have no idea. had a way of making a splash. So I just, you know, I assumed that I would to do admiringly just like in football.
just crashed and they put me against the largest a guy. He weighed, probably three hundred pounds . They had an exercise, exactly like you you see now in "Run It", Do you know where you are from the dispersal? crash into each other one. You are running at full speed. speed one on one. He had ball, and I had to do delight, and he thought: "Oh, that will be easy," you know, he just was going to tear me down, and everyone around encouraged and something else. And I literally tore off his feet off the ground and laid him on his back.
Ovva. And I am so strong injured his shoulder. Yes. You tell these stories to your sons? Ha? You tell your sons these stories? No. Aren't you telling me? What? Well, I don't...I have to Mind you, I'm a father. It parental history. I think so. and there is. Yes, but I I feel that I would tell. If in I was like that. history, Do you know how much? stories I... I tell Max, I I'm telling Max bedtime stories. If in I was like that, I would told her, and Max would ask: "Seriously, "Was that your dad?" This is your legend.
Your dad did this. it? This is your family. legend. Yes. It was not on camera like those who I have it on video. I I'll show him this. I I feel that I have tell him/her history, you know, I I will plant yours. guys and I'll tell them about your dad. Dude. He already tells my children, as far as he was stronger for me. It was, well, it was one of the best moments, I so good its teased when we were, it was in Trakakki. Yes, Tracakki.
Adam really can to raise more than you? I forgot whose you are. was. It was Everett, when was he small. Oh my God, him then, probably, it was as much as Max. I offended him with this. Yes, of course. Because of him The son said: "Take "Take me." So I forgot. I said something. like: "Oh, carefully. I can handle it. with you, as with yours dad, or how do I do it with your dad or something "I don't remember." exactly what I told him said. I said something.
like this, and Adam is like super strong. My dad always told me stories about yourself childhood, and it was cool when I left to Sicily, because others people told those the stories themselves, as if confirming them. AND then I'll tell you to their children stories about myself. all the time, because it's just fun. It's just fun. to tell such stories history. Although you you create a situation, when are your children think that this okay, right? Your the children think that you the coolest guy in the world.
Although mine My wife thinks so. I I told you about this. ? She is trying to drag you into fights . She thinks we were hanging out. We were hanging out. Whenever you you are telling this history, I remember " The Way of the Weapon. the opening scene. No, I I didn't know that. It's where...well, because. You already did it for us. showed. Yes, I already told you that. showed. This is one of the best initial scenes in history. There this girl. The boy still has That kind of hair.
As in "Whites don't know how to "jump". That's the same the actress herself, right? And itself. Oh, I think it's her. Maybe it's her. I am not assured. But yes, Benicio del Toro leans on the car with his friend, and they are talking. No, I spoke to with his wife, and she says: "You...", we talked about jiu- jiu-jitsu, and I said, " Yes, man. I would participated, but not I will compete in ordinary category, because you will have to fight with a bunch of 20-year-olds "And she is like this: "Well, isn't that better?" ".
I'm like, 'What?' No." She says, "But you adult man. You what, you can't have them paste? "." I like this: "No, dear. It's 20 -year-old boys". A then we talked about... 25-year-old guys are enough already adult men. And then we talked about, well, about someone, who we know who has a black belt with jiu-jitsu, right? And we about one size. And she says: "Uh, but you can defeat him, right? I say, "No, honey." He has a black belt. He Give me a slap in the face.
AND she's like: "No, no "you can." I say: "You, You probably think I am. ...", which is pretty cool. My wife said, that all three of you the coolest in the world, including you, friend. Uh, what if you could go back to the age when you thought he was at his peak its alpha form, well, type of force? Oh, it's like a physical alpha . Physical alpha, because I am much more. Yes. Yes, of course. Now, like, but I have in mind, as in which How old are you, in your opinion?
, was, like, at the peak of "don't touch" me"? Uh-huh For me 20. I would say 20. Oho. Oh, yo. This is definitely not about me. No, not about me. Yes, not about me. I was late. flowering. I had it at the end. 20s. I'm somewhere around 28. Yes. Yes. I'm somewhere around 28-29. Peak, like, in everything. 20? No. No. No. This, this young. Oh, yes. Wow. I was then by the force of nature. Yes. Wow. There you have it. No. I'm not shy anymore. I lost it, man.
It was just crazy decline after that. What about you? Probably 48. Because you can't. remember everything up to 20 years. I, I sometimes turn to the stone tablets, just to remember. Hey, seriously? 48? No, I'm just kidding. I I mean, you know, when I was 25 or something like that. What did you say? 25. 25. 25. You just throw it away. random number? Me It seems you are just chose something between me and S. I think it was 25, you know, peak, like, you know, period for me.
This is when he fought with a stegosaurus. Yes, dude. This was the peak of my Fury. That's why I can to attribute this to the fact that then I cooled down and then I don't...Yes. It It wasn't like that, because, man, rage in addition to crazy physical , you know, abilities. That was bad. combination. Yes. I just wanted to to say that if something happened, and I would be with wife in a fight, not let me lose in no way. Me no matter how much it is foul.
Intervene as soon as possible. If You see what mine is. The guy is being bullied, I don't want her. burden. I would even waited. I am not I want my wife to ...I just want to she was still thinking: " "He would have managed." Just intervene, like: "Dude, why Did you interfere, brother? I "would completely..." She like this: "But he would have it "beaten." You know. Adam, he can't to control oneself thereafter. Then I I'll treat you...Brother, I was so tired. . Oh my god, I thought that I will die.
Thank you for... Thank you for intervening. dude. I saw this look, Dude, I saw this one. view. Yes, help me, dude. Yes, in any case. , I have to tell you, sorry, I'll change the subject, so...I recommended [ supplements] to your group friends. Number one among the additives, about who ask me, — it's creatine because he seems... I think everyone has it. Everyone. It is available. He is everywhere. Even my friends who are not engaged sports, they ask about him. Everyone. You know, research, all data about how it affects for depression, anxiety, health , longevity, not only on the muscles.
And I have there are a few friends who They said the same thing. This is not very common, but if there are any complaints on creatine, then always just for this. Always on it. And this is related to digestion, that he affects my gastrointestinal highway. Or through His stomach is bloated, or is he just me does not fit. So in I have three friends, and I said: "Okay, then first, how many of you Do you accept? You accept a huge dose?" "No, they say , —five grams at a time ".
"Okay, try it." creatine Row. Try it their liposomal creatine. Let me know, "What will happen?" Each of them returned and said: "No stomach aches" problems. I will try. this is when I zoom in dosage, because earlier I didn't feel that way. until I started eating those chewing gum without measure. And then I feel, I really do. I feel... I can't accept. more than seven grams per time. I feel sick. But Row...that's because he liposomal. He is not affects my intestine. Oh, interesting. Yes. I have to try.
change the situation together with you. Yes. And that's good, because which again, is a small percentage people who are not receive benefits. They just stay away from creatine. It because of such an experience? Yes. Cramps occur in the stomach. It always is was my problem. Problem. All their products liposomal, right? All their products liposomal. I didn't realize how big their line products. Huge. I know that Doug opened it recently, and I even didn't know how much all they have is that we accept. And you know, liposomal technology is pharmaceutical technology.
Many who doesn't know this, but these are pharmacological companies studied ways to do substances more bioavailable, and this very effective method. You just encapsulate the compound in fat, who protects her and delivers to where necessary. But yes, in There are many of them. Oh yes, they have a lot. everything. Hey, you mentioned supplements. What are you thinking about the Proctor step and Gamble? I mean, they bought Thorne. Oh, they bought Thorne. Thorne—enough respected brand. Yes. For doctors, specialists from food additives, doctors functional medicine. How am I?
How do I do this? Yes. Is this won't it stain brand? You know, No. I think it's simple. interesting step when huge billion the company does this. There are many distrust. It it is abnormal that company like this level bought a company that produces additives, with their markups, size, even such a company, like Thorne, I mean. Yes, as usual a pharmaceutical company makes. Yes, this, this, this, this is another one purchase for such companies. You know, I think I I'm guessing you have idea? Yes, yes, I want to to hear what you think.
Health industry and longevity increases like this quickly. So this is my argument, Why did I mention that? This is the most reputable company . I think we're in. at a time when we we are talking about this now , for example, in the field of fitness, and it's like... This is a very cool time, to be in the industry health and wellness, when you think about... She is incredible. will grow in the next 5 years. I think so too. No, they are. demonstrate. Yes. That's right, and I think this is another proof this.
When you see, like a company like Proctor and Gamble buys a similar company with additive production, they are betting that this market will grow during the next 5-10 years. AND everything they do, it I forgot the data, it was something around 800 with something billions now, and by 2030 predict about 1.6 trillion. That is, it's like doubling Aha current indicators in 5 or 10 years, what is crazy growth. Yes. Crazy growth. So it makes sense to me that pharmaceutical company I would like to insure oneself so.
I have pharmaceuticals, and now let's move on to health and longevity. Yes. I am very interested, Will we see more? such cases. Or we will see more such big ones companies that others are buying big brands additives right now, because they do bet on long-term perspective. Yes, but I thought that was it. interesting. I...I...yes, I don't great I think the next thing you you will see, it is start of acquisitions brands like Coca-Cola or...and here's why this is definitely Proctor and Gamble buys them? Proctor and Gamble.
Oh, they have many more. other consumers goods. Yes. Detergent dishes and the like . Yes, they have all kinds goods. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Here...here's what I have on attention. It's like Coke bought them. It more like this. Yes. Yes. Yes. I thought about pharmacists. You You are right. Um, that's why I think, which is more interesting. It like you have a mega- billion-dollar company, which deals with things like that. So what have I seen so far, when a megacompany like -from General Mills or another, buys a company healthy eating , they are very quiet change the ingredients .
Yes. Every time. Oh yes. They...yes. They replace oil. They add a new one ingredient. They are not they tell the consumer. The consumer has no idea has, not yet will check the composition. You such as: "Wait, soybean oil? Or wait, here now Is there aspartame or something else? . You know how often takeovers happen successful? It's not often, 30 percent? This is very low. indicator. Look on Google. This is really...this about 15%. It incredibly little, considering how much only for 5 years, I think that...that ...
cultures simply not really coincide. It's simple. , uh, you constantly hear about these big acquisitions, mergers and all that, but the indicator success in reality horrible. You know, you would think, you would thought he had would be much higher, than it actually is. Do you know which ones? were successful? Uh-huh. 70-90%. They fail. Isn't that wild? To also, I think, during the first 5 years. And do you know what? one of the biggest mergers and acquisitions in American stories that turned out to be very successful, were then, when tobacco industry uh, bought groceries companies.
Food companies. Yes . Yes. In the 1970s, those technologies that really improved ability to cause addiction, or still owned by Philip Morris a pile of food companies? Doug, look for, uh, tobacco companies buy food companies in the 1970s to we could a little to read. But is that still the case? They are still them. own? This is good. question. And, and what makes you to say that it was so , it was like, uh, destroyed, all companies destroyed. Well, sometimes it happens that way, that they too they promote everything back.
So, RG, therefore RG, okay, scroll down, RG Reynolds expanded, they bought Nabisco, Hawaiian Punch, Philip Morris entered alcohol and drinks, and then in the 1980s they bought General Foods and Kraft and Seven Up. They are still them. own? Does Philip Morris own still General Foods and Kraft? Yes. See? They still possess Yes. Yes. Let's see what It says there. So, to things, this is well known. The reason why they do this done, is to because the news about that how harmful there is smoking, became loud.
And therefore tobacco companies such changed course. Oh, they are more than that they don't do it. They are them sold. Hmm. Steeply. So, these tobacco companies began to regulate, and there was a lot about them bad publicity. So they had to to insure, and they bought food companies. And then they did what very interesting: used their scientific developments to to do things that call dependence. They took their scientists and said, "Hey, let's let's find out how to do it the food is the same attractive, like that I'm selling in 2000." And they definitely are.
done. It is written here that they sold them in 2000 for 15 billion. Nabisco was later sold Philip Mor, oh, sold uh Philip Morris in the 20th. So, Philip Morris is still owns, that is merged. Uh-huh. no, no, no, group. Yes. Philip Morris renamed her the main company on Altria Group. In March 2007 year they officially separated Kraft Foods, distributing all remaining shares and completely out of food industry. Okay. Ahem. Yes. OK. So why, why is that? Ha? Why buy? them for 15 billion, and then turn around and to drop them, to get out of this in 2007?
Interesting, maybe because of this negative publicity it happened. I wonder if It became known that Philip Morris owns this. I I know that they earned on them, and I thought it was the reason for separate it into something other. Change the name. Tobacco companies sold their food empires above all because legal obligation cigarette business threatened to lower financial value. Okay, That's exactly what I'm talking about. This is because What's wrong with them? reputation. You are like: you know, you are from with his family Are you going to take the cheese?
Kraft" and you think, "Oh, this the same people from whom people have cancer. We are not we will buy theirs [ __ ]. No, seriously. You can't interfere. people to conduct such parallels, right? Or connections. This is what happened with me, dude. Wow. Yes. Yes. Quite interesting things. And the science that stands for make food addictive —this is one of the most deep, crazy and mad sciences, that you saw in your life. Probably better than...me I mean, tobacco —it's a game on one strings. Well, actually they are limited.
I am exactly that. I mean. They are limited because their it is impossible to flavor. They implemented all these laws. Yes. Yes. So this is a game of one string. It... they prohibit even menthol ones cigarettes. I think they even them prohibit. Yes. Really? Yes, it seems. No, I think they are them. banned. I don't know. But perhaps some states, because... I didn't know that. Because they are from flavorings Well, I know they are did it with everyone vapes. They changed rules, you can't take those who are not allowed.
I sure that everything one thing is possible. Meanwhile, my son bought... No bananas. Not on the federal level equal, but there are some states that... one of those, you know, toy cigarettes, what are they still sell. That's right. It's funny to me that there is chewing cigarettes and all that, but they have such that you blow bubbles, and like smoking cigarettes, but these are bubbles. When we were children, ice cream seller sold to children candy in the form of counterfeit cigarettes, so that you can study smoking at five years old.
Yes. Plant them from a young age, you know. This is...A then Big League Chew, you know. Oh, yes. Take some. chewing tobacco. It somehow...or pretentious. This still exists, truth? You can still buy Big League Chew. Yes. Yes. This still exists. But I think they are trying to distance oneself from what it looks like like tobacco. Tobacco shavings. Yes. So I know. Oh, you don't think that she is still the same fibrous? I think so, but they are no longer advertise it as in the 80s. Do you remember, in the 80s?
in the advertisement they showed, How do baseball players chew? I want to be like him. Hold on, friend. You know what I understood, looking at a bunch of ours cartoons, movies and shows when we grew up: it was like that there many cigar smokers? Like, cool guys always had a cigar. Yes. You know, it seems to me that cigarettes start turn. You Do you know about this? I think I wouldn't be surprised. I think they are starting to return little by little. Old school, cigarettes through nostalgia.
We need to somehow riot. Yes. I don't know. Look, the trend has been going on for a long time on the decline. I know. All I know is that that cigarettes and whiskey appear everywhere I am there. Oh, wow. Cultural and aesthetic return . Pop culture, fashion. Do you hear that, Doug? Yes, I see. Start smoking. smoked. Ha? Doug never smoked. You never...You ever- ever tried cigarette? Oh, of course, I tried. Okay. But you never really smoked. I have never been a smoker. He went to Burning Man.
He tried. all sorts of filth. No, Thank you. Twice. Did you ever smoke? Justin, or just chewed? I'm fighting for I bet you chewed. No, no. I tried that too. , and another, and this...this is for me It didn't work at all. IN I was sick. reaction to this. It's the funniest thing when I remember this, I It's getting funny. I smoke cigars. I'm just funny, when I think about it. So people are angry. You Are you going to do this anyway? to remember. I think this is the one.
the direction you are going You pretend you were...like your fitness manager. I didn't mean to do this. remember. You smoke. It wasn't mine...It wasn't was my goal... No, no, I wasn't going to. to remember this. Yes. My roommate then, you know, he put me on this, at first from time to time . What was time ago time, turned into for the evening ritual after returning home. The funniest for I was like I hated it very much. this smell, what did I have to do go wash your hands immediately thereafter.
That is, I could admit that I liked a certain the effect of this, but I couldn't stand it this smell. So I smoked, and then rubbed his hands frantically, and you know, later I realized that in the 50s and 60s -s girls wore long mouthpieces, probably That's why, right? To avoid touching. Yes. Oh yes, this is because it left a smell on hands, and that's why I hated it—if I smoked one, hands smelled, and that was it simply disgusting. My great-grandfather twisted cigarettes myself. Yes, he is started smoking at 10 years.
I remember, my great-grandfather in Sicily. So, from the age of 10 he started smoking. He smoked continuously, in in the sense that just now woke up, immediately smoked, and when one went out, he lit by her next. Yes. He was constantly smoking. He several times set fire to sheets. I fell asleep. in bed with a cigarette in mouth. In the mouth. He died when he was about 94. Oho. What are the statistics? Because I'm curious. Or Did your parents smoke? What are the statistics of What if parents smoke?
, so there will be children? Quite high, isn't it? Yes? Yes. I think even higher. The chances are significantly bigger. Did your parents smoke? Mm- And yours? No. No. A. So, but when I was a child, yes. When I was a child, my grandmother, my Grandma just smoked like a steam locomotive. A pack, dude. A pack, a pack on day. She was sitting there. She sat next to her little one, she lived in the apartment where I lived with her, and she sat in in his chair next to sliding doors, and we watched together Lifetime video, and just did you watch the video Lifetime.
When I went to Sicily at the age of 12, I I just couldn't. believe how much everyone was smoking everywhere: in at home, in the car, it It didn't matter. I went to the gym. I I'm not making this up. It truth. On the cross-country the paths were ashtrays. On treadmills. On treadmills. There were ashtrays. This is wild. Yes. So I think that's it. somehow children who see how smoke, usually in two to four times more often themselves start smoking compared to those whose parents do not smoke.
Teenagers whose guardians addicted to nicotine, have about 38% probabilities try smoking, compared to 13% in non-smokers. Yes. Here you go and the result. We previously talked about food, how much is it delicious and all that. And I I will mention Chris Power in this conversation, because we used this power for the good. Yes. You know what I am I will say, it is a force to some extent science. I support 100% adding a capital amount of protein in appetizer, because protein provides an effect saturation. This is a fact, independent of everything else.
It saturation effect, and at least people get protein. Yes. So, you know, It's amazing how they are working on this saturation. They are now selling large packs. I really give preference for small ones. I I can't handle it. big. Yes, I definitely can't. to eat whole. But I I thought I wanted a bigger one. a pack, because two of these packs are more... How many are there? 28 grams squirrel- this is more than enough. As usual... It's so strange because you could you give me a pack of regular ones chips.
Well, they did two things that give saturation. There are many protein, 28 grams, and lots of fiber. So, protein gives the greatest saturation. In second place— cellulose. Yes. And they are delicious, by the way. if you haven't already tasted Chris Power, you, Who is listening? They taste like pretzels, like pretzels with flavor , for example, nachos or something else. But with a high content protein and fiber. I don't think I ever... ever ate a pack something like that small and felt full thereafter. I seriously. Think about it.
about something you ate, what is sold in such in small packages, like whatever you call them. It must be something from high content protein, like jerky meat. That would be the only one. Even after him I think I am I could eat more. It amazingly. Probably right. in the fiber. Apparently, because there really is even more protein, than in dried meat. There are 28 grams. Yes. 28 grams plus fiber, somehow . This, this, this is even more more filling than a pack beef jerky, and times cheaper.
I have a little more. cool news about AI for you guys. Therefore, AI things appear, which show, how interesting and strange algorithms became, bro. Yes, definitely. I I will read to you what just happened, and this just propaganda This is wild. So, Claude. Anthropic scientists have made something with Claude. That they did. They climbed into the neural network Claude's network and introduced the idea. Yes , they did a small change in neural network Claude. They implanted the thought. AND then released its. And this is what Claude said.
I noticed that seems an established thought. This is due to loudness or shouting. In other words, the article they published, called " Emergent introspective awareness in major languages models". Other in words, AI woke up. It's like something inside me changed. I can to say that I am watching inside yourself. What did you guys do? ? You interfered with me. Wow, dude. Yes, we are that fast. let's run towards... I don't know, dude. I, I I don't think so. generally yes. I think that it's too exaggerated because of how much money is being poured in there.
Probably scary news so far there were always only smoke and mirrors, so it's hard... You know, my fear. no longer Can you guys because this, this was a long time ago, Yes? How many 20s have passed? 26, 27 years old. You Do you remember the problem? 2000? Yes, that was funny. Do you remember the time? before this? Oh my God. Do you remember? preparation for this? We were not...Come on. remember, we all...we everyone was young boys, probably were going...we were, we were busy with who did a lot such a fool.
How, how now, as adults men and parents, we are easier get involved in this than teenagers. As a teenager and social networks are not was. It was Yes. They weren't there. So the problem of 2000 was crazy. I'm not...this. It was madness. I think that every a person I know, IT professionals, lost mind, stocked up on water and food, withdrew money from banks. It was crazy. Each of we thought the world is going to... it came, and it was just another one Tuesday. Yes. Well, when he was born, uh, this it was sometime in January, and it was just around the corner this whole story with May calendar.
It it was simple Oh yes. almost on approach. We will call his Everett Apocalypto Andrews. No, you were stupid. You really was No, it was a joke. But yes, it was, literally everyone was just hysterical with about this. And this simply, you will get something like that. So, my country I'm no longer afraid that AI will be like the Terminator. I I don't think that this will happen. But I I fear his power and abilities manipulate people and how it can be done use it because I I see how much powerful algorithms, and that's not even all, that's great tool.
Yes, I wanted to, I did. I wanted to say, okay, you brought this wonderful example, you know, Y2K was so crazy, but we didn't even have internet and social media, right? Uh, I would say that social networks, if you think about it their ability manipulate and share, I mean, what we saw last decades, this madness. And this is even without taking into account AI, isn't that right? I really am I think I really am. I think, like everything else, social media was shaken this pendulum is like that far, AI can push him some more a little further, but this will force him return.
Well, Let me, because I I think that will happen. You think, people? will they be disconnected? Yes. Well, I think you You simply won't be it's already, I can already see it in in their circles of friends. We can't, this happened only after last year. For one year we, I in all these group chats with friends and therefore similar, right? If you Are you sharing something there? immediate distrust to this thing. Oh, it doesn't look like that. what came from, exactly Yes. Hmm, it's probably AI, or oh, it's fake.
I already saw how everything is fake, and I really saw how friends do that, when I know what it is something quite true. So it's like we, we, we, rather everything, let's not to trust everything that is on the internet, I think, in the next five years. But that doesn't make you intractable to manipulations. Well, people always will manipulate. Well, so here's mine, here it is my opinion. So, uh, we often talk to people about change algorithms in their social networks, Yes? So, if in someone has problems with perception of one's own bodies, and you flip through Instagram, looking at, you know, these are incredible perfect bodies, simply remove them from your algorithm, so as not to to see it constantly, because it really makes an impact .
Even if you do you realize this changes your perception. And algorithms are anything at all crazy. They track how long you hold your gaze. Yes. On a specific photo. Of course, what you press and what read, will influence to what you will be shown further. Algorithms are changing in real time, and this even without taking AI into account on such a scale. AND now think about your wearable devices. AI capability connect to them, measure your pulse, pupil dilation, breathing and saying, "Hey ", it works." I agree with everything you said.
you say, but I think that you are only more confirm my opinion. More likely than everything, AI will be to figure these things out, and you will start not to trust that You see. I mean that this is already is happening to me: I am being put to sleep. advertising, and I know that it's because yesterday I was looking for something, or we They called it Katrina. about this near TV or computer, and they do it picked up. The strangest thing about your in words what society with low level trust in reality easier to manipulate, than society with high level trust.
Let's take, for example, Soviet Union. It was many areas where you don't knew how much spies around. You didn't know how much people report on you , so people don't care about anyone trusted, and a lot happened terrible things. I think that will do. ...I honestly don't I know. My optimistic view is that it is will bring us closer again, we will start more often communicate live, develop communities, and there will be distrust aimed at robots and technology, but trust —on people. Maybe you're right. And I think that...I think, What...
this is a narrowing of our environment to a narrower one circles. I don't think there is. great distrust of people. I think that there is a big distrust of technologies, and it's not That's bad enough. I I think we should ... things, probably much more valuable. So, it's going to be, you know, your community and your people you know, and they to you I like it, I think. what is this, and I think, uh, I I mean, I'm very I'm glad we're already 12. We've been doing this for years, so we built community uh trust, because she people know that we are not work.
Yes. And that's why I think that this will be very difficult for anyone who will try robotic arm, although. Why? Dude, you could. to lift Imagine that you can you do with Robotic arm, dude. Who is most likely will have a robot arm? Justin. Justin, exactly. You, by the way, are saying about social networks, saw that MySpace is going return? Yes, I mentioned it to you. about this. You, have you read about this? er, just short type, about this Renaissance. They are trying it revive They are trying to say no are going use algorithms.
People who bought it, it bought many years ago ago. So, here's what was there said. I read article. I mean, it would be cool if they really didn't do it like on Facebook. MySpace restarts and says that they are planning offer users alternative today's social media feeds networks based on on algorithms that are addictive. Brothers Chris and Tim Vanderhook, current MySpace owners, told in recent documentary the film they are preparing great comeback early pioneer internet, caused by growing disappointment in modern social networks that provide priority maximization involvement and infinite scrolling.
Future restart has on to propose healthier alternative. You know who these are. two brothers, right? No. You don't know who they are. ? No. These are the two brothers, who claimed that invented Facebook and they tried, and they sued, er, um, o Oh my god. Zuckerberg and just like Zuckerberg filed a lawsuit against several billion dollars. I'm sure he will. are being sued weekly. Yes. Yes. I am sure it is served to court every week. You saw him. Is it fighting? You saw how Does he do MMA?
Did you see this? Yes. He tries very hard, to get that, get that This is all so crazy. . What are you checking? facts now, Doug? Yes. Yes, is that it? No, it doesn't say that. But I think they were in that documentary movie. I think it's a documentary about Facebook was not about MySpace, but I know that they wasn't there a movie about Facebook, "Social chain". This is "Social chain". Give it to me. I'll take a look. And they were there. and they were there.
This is here are these—these are two, this is this these two. Well, yes, that's it. as it unfolds history, it based on real events. You too You know this, right? " "Social Network". This not a fictional film. It is based on this stories, and that's what they're for arrived. No. They are different, these Vossy. That's what it is. They are twins. Yes. I understand why you like them. you are confused. The names are very, Yes. Yes. V. Vanderhook. Yes. Yes. I thought that these are the same people .
What about MySpace? That's it not the same guy, Yes? Volume, dude. Tom is original guy . Yes. He is the one he is the same guy from, You know, he earned it. a lot of money, and then disappeared. Yes. He is like, a real gangster. Like, I don't think he is on. some, I don't think, that he is on any social platform . Isn't that cool? Like, you created one of the largest social platforms in due time. Dropped the microphone and disappeared , left the game.
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So I don't want to. to waste time on exercises, if there are better ones options. I think if it were my client asked, I I would like to know a little more detail, for example... What exactly are you looking for? That's right. Because there is a difference , there are different exercises. I would, I would trained you if you looked at me and said: "Uh, I want very dynamic and strong stable body, not just body, so that it looks good look like, right?" Because, like, I think, with a burden on an inclined bench, and you you will get voluminous, Yes.
voluminous strong abdominal muscles. But performing an exercise that has a certain rotary component, apparently, the best way for everyone could get from this stability, strength and support. So, I think, if I knew what you do you want from this more, I would send you in a different direction . Yes, I think we could. break it down into movements, and then you could choose exercises that perform part of this. So, you, would definitely like to work out the press in full amplitude movement. Would you like something?
, which allows to use oblique abdominal muscles. Yes. to uh to unbend and bend lumbar region spine. Of course? So, uh, like a climb housing or twisting on fitball, where you are strong fixed by the hips and roll over through the ball, receiving amplitude of movement together with this, and doing twisting. You you get full amplitude of muscle movement the press, as an example. So you need something that flexes and bends lumbar region spine for muscles press. Then you need something that rotates with resistance for oblique muscles belly.
Then you something will be needed that provides counter-rotation. It allows stabilize the body , while something pulls you in a certain direction, and allows stabilize the spine , like a plank, while maintaining good posture. So choose exercises in each of these categories. I think you you won't be able to be mistaken. I mean, isn't it? would you say that " "Lumberjack" with a rope, traction "lumberjack", would do a few of these points. So " "logger" with a rope and full lift on fitball with would be a burden quite comprehensive exercises.
If you performed these two, probably these two, again anyway, we're playing game: can I build this is to the minimum number of movements for maximum result? I would say: "loggers", and then full lift body on fitball, and to reach the point, when can I add burden. Yes, I think that would be it. best correlation efforts spent on result. Absolutely. Next question by E. Pearson 81. If muscle memory so widespread and real, why stage drying cannot be too aggressive? Is it muscle memory? will not restore muscles faster than fat at restoration or gaining weight?
I mean, theoretically, I understand why this person asks the following question, but there is a better way to do it. Like, what kind? Well, you can. to make aggressive " drying", lose a bunch muscles, and then to go through the process attempts to return them back, or you can just burn fat without much loss muscle mass. Well, you don't have to. pass through Okay. Yes. But you also have understand this: muscle memory and software the body is sufficient number of calories for muscle support —these are two different things.
So, in other words, aggressive—when I hear "aggressive drying", I I'm thinking radical. calorie reduction, Yes? And if you radically reduce calories, you will lose part of the muscles. You, most likely, you will lose part muscles. And even if You have great muscles. memory and you you return to training, if you eat with a deficit calories, then I no matter how much Yours works well. muscle memory, you don't you will grow more muscles. I think they are asking, why not do it aggressive drying, lose some muscle but lose much more fat, and then just to return the lost muscles.
And what I am is what I am I'm trying many many many bodybuilders yes do. They are so do. This was it. was my advantage in competitions, because I not Yes, that's exactly me. I'm trying to say. Like, you can do it. to do, but there is a better one way. It is much more work. Yes. Why not Why just don't burn fat and preserve the muscles so didn't have to to pass through this whole process? Isn't Lane Norton talked about this, about possibility of appearance new fat cells?
Oh, when are you aggressively aggressively "drying" when you are you typing when you you type after Yes. after radical drying, when are you coming back to the usual diet, if you are aggressive you increase calories, like it does a lot athletes, fat cells. You will gain fat. cells. But I have to attention, to the words of Sal, it this is just the worst way to do it. This is the harder way. make. You have to be much ago aggressive drying means I have to be much more limited in nutrition, which is difficult from the point of view disciplines.
Me too I'm going to lose a lot of muscle. along with fat. Then, when I get back to training to to grow them again, will be needed many times more calories, work, effort and time, to get all this back muscle mass. The harder way is this make. You would be much better. . It's like this is okay. Some you are playing a game on supercomplex mode complexity. Simply go easy regime. There is a simpler one. way to do it. Yes. Next question from Kevin Smith28 .
What can I do? to strengthen lumbar quadratus muscle (QL) and correct stability? I injured his lower back, performing a pull-up reverse rod with MAPS Aesthetic, to to such an extent that he could not even take off the pancakes from the barbell. Now I I do a 15-minute Symmetry program and added several approaches walking with a suitcase and rotations with barbell in a rack ( landmine). But walks with A suitcase is good. But you know, "windmills" —that's great. "Windmills" ". Yes. "Windmills" wonderful, because walks with a suitcase will strengthen QL somewhat isometric way.
And the "windmills" force this muscle works in throughout the range movements. You are moving. you stretch it him, you shorten its. Can be added to this resistance. Can also do inclines sideways with a dumbbell, if Do you want to leave everything? very simple. But as well any muscle, isometric exercises are great for strengthening, but how only you go out for boundaries of a particular range where trained isometrically, you you are starting to lose this power. I don't remember. exactly how much degrees outside the limits of this isometry.
15. Yes. So full range of motion—that's what , which is worth adding to similar training. So, "windmills." I want to praise this a person for what they are I thought of it myself, because she performed MAPS Aesthetic. She injured QL, switched to 15- minute Symmetry and added walks with suitcase, so it's on the right path. Yes, if you are not a coach , this is quite solid direction, the only thing I I would add—these are “windmills” . Aha. Add "windmills", start with your own weights, reach skills, and then gradually increase load is will make your QL invulnerable.
Next question from Kirky Brad: me I wake up at 4:30 in the morning. to be in the hall at 5:00. Should I eat? before breakfast training? I eat. rich in carbohydrates food before bed. Carbohydrates that you consumed in the evening, will be your fuel. Now, if you have a very long and tiring training, then maybe It is good to drink. carbohydrates during occupation, right? Therefore, can you take carbohydrate drink or powder that can be purchased. Can drink coconut water, which I sometimes do, because It contains electrolytes.
But if you have ordinary power 45-60 minute workout minutes, you probably nothing is needed eat, that's enough meal, which was in the evening. There are cases where some to people, despite everything, need at least a little eat. I had such clients, who, no matter what, it was necessary something to eat. Same with me. Therefore my answer will be like this: this is the case purely personal preferences. Because in I had clients, which is a must I need to eat something. otherwise they will weaken, feel strange, and ...Yes.
So we I have to eat something. My other clients feel better on an empty stomach. I would said that this first and foremost the most important. What are you Do you prefer? You Are you feeling well? Or Can you eat too? to go immediately to train, not feeling at the same time lethargy? That's it. So, the most important thing: how are you feeling thereafter? Or Do you like this? Do you like it? feeling full or vice versa? Second the moment that I I consider: is it possible?
you achieve your goals targets macronutrients? For sometimes customers they train in the morning and prefer training on an empty stomach, but because this is missed eating, not eating until 9 or 10 o'clock, are lagging behind in protein intake or something, and constantly are malnourished— then I say, "Hey, let's try drink protein cocktail before training". So I I think the first criterion—how are you How are you? What are you Do you prefer? The second criterion is whether are you successful? during the day achieve your goals regarding macronutrients ?
If you perform both of these conditions, then do what you want suitable. By the way, sometimes people they say, "Well, I have something eat, because otherwise I "a little weak." But actually they are just consume not enough calories. IN I was like this customers, and I said, "Well , let's try eat more during day and see what "will come out". And this solved the problem. Okay, I know what you want. liked this one episode. If so, Look at this one too. Walking. This is one of the best things that you can do for your health, without no doubt.
But there is a better approach to this. Yes, you can. just walking, but if you follow correct protocol, this much more efficient . Let's talk. about walking. I can't to wait for to hear your protocol walking. Well, it exists. Well, protocol indeed exists. So, I'll start with first one, okay? For first of all, let me start with this. One of the reasons, Why is walking like this? in great shape activity, consists in low risk injury. Now,