America's 'Pilot Rescue' Happened 10km From Iran's Hidden Nuclear Weapons Stash

Welcome to another episode of the Tom Welcome to another episode of the Tom Billy Show live. I'm excited to have you Billy Show live. I'm excited to have you Billy Show live. I'm excited to have you guys here. I hope you had an absolutely guys here. I hope you had an absolutely guys here. I hope you had an absolutely wonderful Easter. It was a wild weekend wonderful Easter. It was a wild weekend wonderful Easter. It was a wild weekend if you were paying attention to world if you were paying attention to world if you were paying attention to world affairs. Trump told Iran, this is a affairs. Trump told Iran, this is a affairs. Trump told Iran, this is a quote, "Open the effing straight of quote, "Open the effing straight of quote, "Open the effing straight of Hormuz, you crazy bastards, or you'll be Hormuz, you crazy bastards, or you'll be Hormuz, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell." Praise be to Allah. living in hell." Praise be to Allah. living in hell." Praise be to Allah. That actually happened. That's a real That actually happened. That's a real That actually happened. That's a real tweet. Oh gosh. Trump designates Tuesday tweet. Oh gosh. Trump designates Tuesday tweet. Oh gosh. Trump designates Tuesday as power plant day and bridge day. then as power plant day and bridge day. then as power plant day and bridge day. then promptly pushes back the deadline. Some promptly pushes back the deadline. Some promptly pushes back the deadline. Some people are mad about that. I really hope people are mad about that. I really hope people are mad about that. I really hope it doesn't come to pass. We'll see. The it doesn't come to pass. We'll see. The it doesn't come to pass. We'll see. The US managed to rescue both down pilots in US managed to rescue both down pilots in US managed to rescue both down pilots in Iran. Many claim it was all faked, but I Iran. Many claim it was all faked, but I Iran. Many claim it was all faked, but I don't see any credible reporting on that don't see any credible reporting on that don't see any credible reporting on that yet. So, we'll be walking you guys yet. So, we'll be walking you guys yet. So, we'll be walking you guys through the different narratives that through the different narratives that through the different narratives that are coming out over that one. Over 50 are coming out over that one. Over 50 are coming out over that one. Over 50 senior Iranian officials and military senior Iranian officials and military senior Iranian officials and military leaders are claimed to have been leaders are claimed to have been leaders are claimed to have been eliminated in a US strike. We will see eliminated in a US strike. We will see eliminated in a US strike. We will see if that one ends up being true. The if that one ends up being true. The if that one ends up being true. The reporting on that one is pretty thin. Uh reporting on that one is pretty thin. Uh reporting on that one is pretty thin. Uh but we'll cover that. As a part of the but we'll cover that. As a part of the but we'll cover that. As a part of the ongoing fraud investigations in ongoing fraud investigations in ongoing fraud investigations in California, over 200 fraudulent hospice California, over 200 fraudulent hospice California, over 200 fraudulent hospice centers have been shut down. I for one centers have been shut down. I for one centers have been shut down. I for one am very excited to see it. And Candace am very excited to see it. And Candace am very excited to see it. And Candace Owens openly calls for a foreign Owens openly calls for a foreign Owens openly calls for a foreign government to overthrow the US. Also government to overthrow the US. Also government to overthrow the US. Also true. So it was a wild weekend and yeah, true. So it was a wild weekend and yeah, true. So it was a wild weekend and yeah, I hope that you guys are ready for the I hope that you guys are ready for the I hope that you guys are ready for the ongoing saga in Iran. It does not seem ongoing saga in Iran. It does not seem ongoing saga in Iran. It does not seem to be letting up anytime soon. We'll see to be letting up anytime soon. We'll see to be letting up anytime soon. We'll see if we can actually just bomb everything if we can actually just bomb everything if we can actually just bomb everything back into the Stone Age and then peace back into the Stone Age and then peace back into the Stone Age and then peace out, which is what Trump claims he's out, which is what Trump claims he's out, which is what Trump claims he's going to do. Uh I'm hoping that we're going to do. Uh I'm hoping that we're going to do. Uh I'm hoping that we're going to have some sort of negotiated going to have some sort of negotiated going to have some sort of negotiated settlement. My instinct is that this settlement. My instinct is that this settlement. My instinct is that this will get pushed back and back and back will get pushed back and back and back will get pushed back and back and back while we uh open room for negotiation, while we uh open room for negotiation, while we uh open room for negotiation, but we'll see. but we'll see. but we'll see. >> Uh it was hilarious. Happy belated >> Uh it was hilarious. Happy belated >> Uh it was hilarious. Happy belated Easter everybody. Hope you had a great Easter everybody. Hope you had a great Easter everybody. Hope you had a great weekend. Uh Mayor Mom Donnie tweeted weekend. Uh Mayor Mom Donnie tweeted weekend. Uh Mayor Mom Donnie tweeted out, "Happy Easter, New York. Today, out, "Happy Easter, New York. Today, out, "Happy Easter, New York. Today, millions of New Yorkers celebrate the millions of New Yorkers celebrate the millions of New Yorkers celebrate the resurrection of Jesus Christ and the resurrection of Jesus Christ and the resurrection of Jesus Christ and the victory of hope over despair and faith victory of hope over despair and faith victory of hope over despair and faith over fear. The uh Muslim socialist and over fear. The uh Muslim socialist and over fear. The uh Muslim socialist and the Christian president said today will the Christian president said today will the Christian president said today will be a power plant day, bridge day, all be a power plant day, bridge day, all be a power plant day, bridge day, all hope all wrapped up in one in Iran. hope all wrapped up in one in Iran. hope all wrapped up in one in Iran. There will be nothing like it. Open the There will be nothing like it. Open the There will be nothing like it. Open the effing straight. Somebody is having a effing straight. Somebody is having a effing straight. Somebody is having a drinking game that every time we say the drinking game that every time we say the drinking game that every time we say the f word, they have to drink. So feel free f word, they have to drink. So feel free f word, they have to drink. So feel free to drop it liberately uh today. Um or to drop it liberately uh today. Um or to drop it liberately uh today. Um or you'll be living in hell. Just watch. you'll be living in hell. Just watch. you'll be living in hell. Just watch. Praise be to Allah President Donald J. Praise be to Allah President Donald J. Praise be to Allah President Donald J. Trump. Um talk about threats. That's a Trump. Um talk about threats. That's a Trump. Um talk about threats. That's a spicy one. Um What was your initial spicy one. Um What was your initial spicy one. Um What was your initial reaction seeing that tweet? reaction seeing that tweet? reaction seeing that tweet? >> Uh, it it is more of what I come to >> Uh, it it is more of what I come to >> Uh, it it is more of what I come to expect from the president, much to my expect from the president, much to my expect from the president, much to my dismay. I really do miss the era of a dismay. I really do miss the era of a dismay. I really do miss the era of a president being presidential. I won't president being presidential. I won't president being presidential. I won't lie. I find this stuff morbidly lie. I find this stuff morbidly lie. I find this stuff morbidly hilarious. hilarious. hilarious. >> Uh, emphasis on the morbidly. Um, so >> Uh, emphasis on the morbidly. Um, so >> Uh, emphasis on the morbidly. Um, so there is an entertainment value. There's there is an entertainment value. There's there is an entertainment value. There's a shock value to be sure, but you know, a shock value to be sure, but you know, a shock value to be sure, but you know, when you're talking about human life, when you're talking about human life, when you're talking about human life, this stuff all gets very dark way, way, this stuff all gets very dark way, way, this stuff all gets very dark way, way, way too fast. So I couldn't believe it. way too fast. So I couldn't believe it. way too fast. So I couldn't believe it. I sort of gofod out loud uh largely from I sort of gofod out loud uh largely from I sort of gofod out loud uh largely from anxiety, but yeah, it uh was one of anxiety, but yeah, it uh was one of anxiety, but yeah, it uh was one of those I had to fact check it. I was those I had to fact check it. I was those I had to fact check it. I was like, there's no way that's what it like, there's no way that's what it like, there's no way that's what it actually said, right? Like this is actually said, right? Like this is actually said, right? Like this is because people write tweets in his voice because people write tweets in his voice because people write tweets in his voice all the time. all the time. all the time. >> Um but yep, that one actually does seem >> Um but yep, that one actually does seem >> Um but yep, that one actually does seem to be real. He's like in the beginning to be real. He's like in the beginning to be real. He's like in the beginning of this term, you could see he was of this term, you could see he was of this term, you could see he was trying to be restrained. He dropped the trying to be restrained. He dropped the trying to be restrained. He dropped the one Fbomb as he was about to get on uh I one Fbomb as he was about to get on uh I one Fbomb as he was about to get on uh I think it either the helicopter or um think it either the helicopter or um think it either the helicopter or um headed to Air Force One and it was like, headed to Air Force One and it was like, headed to Air Force One and it was like, "Oh my god, it's a big deal." Like, can "Oh my god, it's a big deal." Like, can "Oh my god, it's a big deal." Like, can you believe the president said that? And you believe the president said that? And you believe the president said that? And then you see how far it's gotten. And then you see how far it's gotten. And then you see how far it's gotten. And clearly this is somebody who's building clearly this is somebody who's building clearly this is somebody who's building a mental map of the Iranians as being a mental map of the Iranians as being a mental map of the Iranians as being completely unwilling to negotiate, completely unwilling to negotiate, completely unwilling to negotiate, willing to let their country just be willing to let their country just be willing to let their country just be burned to the ground. Um, we started to burned to the ground. Um, we started to burned to the ground. Um, we started to get this sense of what was what the get this sense of what was what the get this sense of what was what the Trump administration's mental map was of Trump administration's mental map was of Trump administration's mental map was of this whole process when um, Witco said, this whole process when um, Witco said, this whole process when um, Witco said, you know, we can't believe that they you know, we can't believe that they you know, we can't believe that they haven't capitulated. So, we're sending haven't capitulated. So, we're sending haven't capitulated. So, we're sending all this hardware, all of these troops, all this hardware, all of these troops, all this hardware, all of these troops, everything over into um, the region and everything over into um, the region and everything over into um, the region and they're just not doing anything with it. they're just not doing anything with it. they're just not doing anything with it. You can, Eric, you can just go to the You can, Eric, you can just go to the You can, Eric, you can just go to the top. You're good. You're good. Um, so top. You're good. You're good. Um, so top. You're good. You're good. Um, so that like once we could see that's where that like once we could see that's where that like once we could see that's where they're mapping all of this stuff out is they're mapping all of this stuff out is they're mapping all of this stuff out is they're being unreasonable that they're they're being unreasonable that they're they're being unreasonable that they're you should be able to build up force, you should be able to build up force, you should be able to build up force, hold a club to somebody's head, put a hold a club to somebody's head, put a hold a club to somebody's head, put a gun in their face, and they react in a gun in their face, and they react in a gun in their face, and they react in a prescripted way. And the fact that prescripted way. And the fact that prescripted way. And the fact that they're not reacting that way, I think they're not reacting that way, I think they're not reacting that way, I think is um very shocking to Trump. And so is um very shocking to Trump. And so is um very shocking to Trump. And so we're seeing that in this latest tweet. we're seeing that in this latest tweet. we're seeing that in this latest tweet. All right. So for people that don't have All right. So for people that don't have All right. So for people that don't have all the context, it went like this. all the context, it went like this. all the context, it went like this. Uh, Trump tweeted out, "Twoday will be Uh, Trump tweeted out, "Twoday will be Uh, Trump tweeted out, "Twoday will be power plant day and bridge day all power plant day and bridge day all power plant day and bridge day all wrapped up in one in Iran. There will be wrapped up in one in Iran. There will be wrapped up in one in Iran. There will be nothing like it." Three exclamation nothing like it." Three exclamation nothing like it." Three exclamation points. Open the [ __ ] straight with points. Open the [ __ ] straight with points. Open the [ __ ] straight with an actual apostrophe at the end. I You an actual apostrophe at the end. I You an actual apostrophe at the end. I You got to respect the attention to detail got to respect the attention to detail got to respect the attention to detail there. You crazy bastards. Or you'll be there. You crazy bastards. Or you'll be there. You crazy bastards. Or you'll be living in hell. Just watch. All caps. living in hell. Just watch. All caps. living in hell. Just watch. All caps. Praise be to Allah. The praise be to Praise be to Allah. The praise be to Praise be to Allah. The praise be to Allah part is what spun a lot of people Allah part is what spun a lot of people Allah part is what spun a lot of people out. Not the you crazy bastards, you'll out. Not the you crazy bastards, you'll out. Not the you crazy bastards, you'll be living in hell. All that. the praise be living in hell. All that. the praise be living in hell. All that. the praise be to Allah. It admittedly is a an be to Allah. It admittedly is a an be to Allah. It admittedly is a an amusing uh choice, but nonetheless, amusing uh choice, but nonetheless, amusing uh choice, but nonetheless, Trump has now extended the power plant Trump has now extended the power plant Trump has now extended the power plant and bridge day deadline three times, and bridge day deadline three times, and bridge day deadline three times, something like two or three times. The something like two or three times. The something like two or three times. The current cutoff is Tuesday, April 8th at current cutoff is Tuesday, April 8th at current cutoff is Tuesday, April 8th at 8:00 p.m. Eastern. We'll see if that 8:00 p.m. Eastern. We'll see if that 8:00 p.m. Eastern. We'll see if that holds. Iran has made it clear it has no holds. Iran has made it clear it has no holds. Iran has made it clear it has no intention of meeting that deadline. On intention of meeting that deadline. On intention of meeting that deadline. On Sunday, Trump told the Wall Street Sunday, Trump told the Wall Street Sunday, Trump told the Wall Street Journal, "If they don't do something by Journal, "If they don't do something by Journal, "If they don't do something by Tuesday evening, they won't have any Tuesday evening, they won't have any Tuesday evening, they won't have any power plants and they won't have any power plants and they won't have any power plants and they won't have any bridges standing." Now, I for one um bridges standing." Now, I for one um bridges standing." Now, I for one um Trump backs up the things that he claims Trump backs up the things that he claims Trump backs up the things that he claims even when it seems absolutely even when it seems absolutely even when it seems absolutely politically suicidal. So, if he does not politically suicidal. So, if he does not politically suicidal. So, if he does not see some sort of off-ramp, you can see some sort of off-ramp, you can see some sort of off-ramp, you can expect him to push forward with that. expect him to push forward with that. expect him to push forward with that. I'll be very surprised, however, if he I'll be very surprised, however, if he I'll be very surprised, however, if he doesn't um extend this again pretty doesn't um extend this again pretty doesn't um extend this again pretty substantively if he's seeing cues that substantively if he's seeing cues that substantively if he's seeing cues that he has somebody that he can work with. he has somebody that he can work with. he has somebody that he can work with. Now, the Tuesday deadline is the latest Now, the Tuesday deadline is the latest Now, the Tuesday deadline is the latest in a series of ultimatums from your boy. in a series of ultimatums from your boy. in a series of ultimatums from your boy. Trump first demanded Iran fully reopen Trump first demanded Iran fully reopen Trump first demanded Iran fully reopen the straight within 48 hours on March the straight within 48 hours on March the straight within 48 hours on March 21st. Then he extended that window. Uh 21st. Then he extended that window. Uh 21st. Then he extended that window. Uh and now we'll see if the 8:00 p.m. and now we'll see if the 8:00 p.m. and now we'll see if the 8:00 p.m. Eastern one holds. Iran's response Eastern one holds. Iran's response Eastern one holds. Iran's response basically coming directly from their basically coming directly from their basically coming directly from their foreign minister. He told Al Jazer foreign minister. He told Al Jazer foreign minister. He told Al Jazer flatly, "At present, there is no flatly, "At present, there is no flatly, "At present, there is no negotiation." And I can feel these guys negotiation." And I can feel these guys negotiation." And I can feel these guys like banging the table. It's like, how like banging the table. It's like, how like banging the table. It's like, how many times do I have to say this? We're many times do I have to say this? We're many times do I have to say this? We're not negotiating with them, which seems not negotiating with them, which seems not negotiating with them, which seems like a lie. PS. By the way, uh I think like a lie. PS. By the way, uh I think like a lie. PS. By the way, uh I think they're standing on literal words. It they're standing on literal words. It they're standing on literal words. It seems pretty apparent that there is back seems pretty apparent that there is back seems pretty apparent that there is back channel negotiation going on with channel negotiation going on with channel negotiation going on with Pakistan. It's causing a lot of drama Pakistan. It's causing a lot of drama Pakistan. It's causing a lot of drama with the UAE, which we'll talk more with the UAE, which we'll talk more with the UAE, which we'll talk more about later. Uh but the speaker of about later. Uh but the speaker of about later. Uh but the speaker of Iran's parliament posted that no Iran's parliament posted that no Iran's parliament posted that no negotiations have been held calling negotiations have been held calling negotiations have been held calling Trump's announcements a scheme to Trump's announcements a scheme to Trump's announcements a scheme to manipulate oil markets. Um the gap manipulate oil markets. Um the gap manipulate oil markets. Um the gap between what each side is claiming is between what each side is claiming is between what each side is claiming is getting pretty wide, but hopefully we're getting pretty wide, but hopefully we're getting pretty wide, but hopefully we're all getting used to that at this point. all getting used to that at this point. all getting used to that at this point. Trump told Axios that talks are going Trump told Axios that talks are going Trump told Axios that talks are going well and said there's a good chance of a well and said there's a good chance of a well and said there's a good chance of a deal, but warned if they don't make a deal, but warned if they don't make a deal, but warned if they don't make a deal, I am blowing up everything over deal, I am blowing up everything over deal, I am blowing up everything over there. That is a quote. The structural there. That is a quote. The structural there. That is a quote. The structural problem is this. Iran's counter demands problem is this. Iran's counter demands problem is this. Iran's counter demands are wild and they include an end to all are wild and they include an end to all are wild and they include an end to all US and Israeli strikes. Fair ask. Uh US and Israeli strikes. Fair ask. Uh US and Israeli strikes. Fair ask. Uh full sanctions relief. Gonna have a hard full sanctions relief. Gonna have a hard full sanctions relief. Gonna have a hard time with that one. Keeping its missile time with that one. Keeping its missile time with that one. Keeping its missile program intact. That's obviously a program intact. That's obviously a program intact. That's obviously a non-starter. War reparations. That's non-starter. War reparations. That's non-starter. War reparations. That's laughable. And international recognition laughable. And international recognition laughable. And international recognition of Iranians uh sovereignty over the of Iranians uh sovereignty over the of Iranians uh sovereignty over the straight of Hormuz. Good luck with that. straight of Hormuz. Good luck with that. straight of Hormuz. Good luck with that. Washington has called their terms a Washington has called their terms a Washington has called their terms a non-starter, as you would expect. Now, non-starter, as you would expect. Now, non-starter, as you would expect. Now, Iran's joint military command responded Iran's joint military command responded Iran's joint military command responded to Trump's Sunday threat by repeating to Trump's Sunday threat by repeating to Trump's Sunday threat by repeating its warning to target energy its warning to target energy its warning to target energy infrastructure across the Gulf. And an infrastructure across the Gulf. And an infrastructure across the Gulf. And an adviser to Iran's new Supreme Leader adviser to Iran's new Supreme Leader adviser to Iran's new Supreme Leader threatened closure of the Baball Mandab threatened closure of the Baball Mandab threatened closure of the Baball Mandab Strait as well. So, that's on the other Strait as well. So, that's on the other Strait as well. So, that's on the other side. So, just trying to make sure that side. So, just trying to make sure that side. So, just trying to make sure that everybody's escalating from a um just everybody's escalating from a um just everybody's escalating from a um just absolute mass chaos standpoint. absolute mass chaos standpoint. absolute mass chaos standpoint. Remember, this is existential and it's Remember, this is existential and it's Remember, this is existential and it's existential for both sides. You've got existential for both sides. You've got existential for both sides. You've got Trump on a one-way ticket to prison. If Trump on a one-way ticket to prison. If Trump on a one-way ticket to prison. If he um doesn't maintain power in the he um doesn't maintain power in the he um doesn't maintain power in the midterms, he will get uh impeached midterms, he will get uh impeached midterms, he will get uh impeached almost certainly. And then if and when almost certainly. And then if and when almost certainly. And then if and when he goes out of office, all bets are off he goes out of office, all bets are off he goes out of office, all bets are off if the Democrats are in power. So he's if the Democrats are in power. So he's if the Democrats are in power. So he's looking at this from a well, it's sort looking at this from a well, it's sort looking at this from a well, it's sort of Mount Rushmore or bust. And then the of Mount Rushmore or bust. And then the of Mount Rushmore or bust. And then the Iranians literally life and death on Iranians literally life and death on Iranians literally life and death on their side. So, expect people to their side. So, expect people to their side. So, expect people to continue to be completely irrational continue to be completely irrational continue to be completely irrational from the other person's side because from the other person's side because from the other person's side because when somebody's backed into a corner when somebody's backed into a corner when somebody's backed into a corner like that and it really does seem like that and it really does seem like that and it really does seem existential from their perspective, they existential from their perspective, they existential from their perspective, they have a totally different set of have a totally different set of have a totally different set of calculus. So, yeah, this one's going to calculus. So, yeah, this one's going to calculus. So, yeah, this one's going to just continue to be strange >> in everything though, cuz I feel like >> in everything though, cuz I feel like this is his fourth or fifth like this is his fourth or fifth like this is his fourth or fifth like deadline ultimatum. Um, does this deadline ultimatum. Um, does this deadline ultimatum. Um, does this specific narrative worry you specific narrative worry you specific narrative worry you >> that he backs off all the time? >> that he backs off all the time? >> that he backs off all the time? >> No, no, no. this specific threat because >> No, no, no. this specific threat because >> No, no, no. this specific threat because I have a poll in Jesus. I have a poll in Jesus. I have a poll in Jesus. >> I have a poll in the chat right now. >> I have a poll in the chat right now. >> I have a poll in the chat right now. Does Tuesday's deadline, you know, cause Does Tuesday's deadline, you know, cause Does Tuesday's deadline, you know, cause stress to you? Yeah. stress to you? Yeah. stress to you? Yeah. >> Because I feel like >> Because I feel like >> Because I feel like >> civilian infrastructure is a bit of a >> civilian infrastructure is a bit of a >> civilian infrastructure is a bit of a different category, but I don't know if different category, but I don't know if different category, but I don't know if we are just categorizing this as like, we are just categorizing this as like, we are just categorizing this as like, oh, well, this is just like he oh, well, this is just like he oh, well, this is just like he threatened the oil. This is just like he threatened the oil. This is just like he threatened the oil. This is just like he threatened the island. This is just like threatened the island. This is just like threatened the island. This is just like he threatened the straight before, or is he threatened the straight before, or is he threatened the straight before, or is does this feel different with you does this feel different with you does this feel different with you because of the bridge, because of the because of the bridge, because of the because of the bridge, because of the >> Well, here's the really bad news. It >> Well, here's the really bad news. It >> Well, here's the really bad news. It doesn't feel different. This feels um doesn't feel different. This feels um doesn't feel different. This feels um like the normal escalatory path that I like the normal escalatory path that I like the normal escalatory path that I would expect Trump to be on with a would expect Trump to be on with a would expect Trump to be on with a regime that feels that it's in an regime that feels that it's in an regime that feels that it's in an existential fight for its life. However, existential fight for its life. However, existential fight for its life. However, I would like PSA time to remind us all I would like PSA time to remind us all I would like PSA time to remind us all that we are the frog being slowly that we are the frog being slowly that we are the frog being slowly boiled. And if I went back in time to boiled. And if I went back in time to boiled. And if I went back in time to say October and I said this is the say October and I said this is the say October and I said this is the headline in uh you know April what 6th headline in uh you know April what 6th headline in uh you know April what 6th you guys would be like no way. like you guys would be like no way. like you guys would be like no way. like there's no way. That's so crazy. And yet there's no way. That's so crazy. And yet there's no way. That's so crazy. And yet here we are. So I think it's important here we are. So I think it's important here we are. So I think it's important for all of us to remind ourselves how for all of us to remind ourselves how for all of us to remind ourselves how insane this moment really is. That we insane this moment really is. That we insane this moment really is. That we really are at war right now. that we are really are at war right now. that we are really are at war right now. that we are threatening to take out their energy, threatening to take out their energy, threatening to take out their energy, their civilian bridges, which will cause their civilian bridges, which will cause their civilian bridges, which will cause retaliatory strikes across the GCC retaliatory strikes across the GCC retaliatory strikes across the GCC nations, which will, if you think oil nations, which will, if you think oil nations, which will, if you think oil prices are rough right now, uh wait till prices are rough right now, uh wait till prices are rough right now, uh wait till you see when we wipe out Iran. Iran then you see when we wipe out Iran. Iran then you see when we wipe out Iran. Iran then wipes out uh a bunch of places across wipes out uh a bunch of places across wipes out uh a bunch of places across the Gulf because oil prices are set the Gulf because oil prices are set the Gulf because oil prices are set internationally. So, you're going to internationally. So, you're going to internationally. So, you're going to hear Trump bang one drum over and over hear Trump bang one drum over and over hear Trump bang one drum over and over and over. The US doesn't need the oil and over. The US doesn't need the oil and over. The US doesn't need the oil from the rest of the world. Cool. Great. from the rest of the world. Cool. Great. from the rest of the world. Cool. Great. uh largely true. However, oil prices are uh largely true. However, oil prices are uh largely true. However, oil prices are set internationally. Meaning, there's a set internationally. Meaning, there's a set internationally. Meaning, there's a certain amount of oil that is produced certain amount of oil that is produced certain amount of oil that is produced every day that can be shipped around the every day that can be shipped around the every day that can be shipped around the world. And if you have oil in your world. And if you have oil in your world. And if you have oil in your country meant to go to the people in country meant to go to the people in country meant to go to the people in your town, and somebody around the your town, and somebody around the your town, and somebody around the world, namely China, goes, "Well, you world, namely China, goes, "Well, you world, namely China, goes, "Well, you just blew up everything in Iran where we just blew up everything in Iran where we just blew up everything in Iran where we were getting, you know, between were getting, you know, between were getting, you know, between Venezuela and Iran, something like 20% Venezuela and Iran, something like 20% Venezuela and Iran, something like 20% of China's oil uh comes from there. Now of China's oil uh comes from there. Now of China's oil uh comes from there. Now all of a sudden they're going to start all of a sudden they're going to start all of a sudden they're going to start bidding for that oil that was meant to bidding for that oil that was meant to bidding for that oil that was meant to stay domestic, but now those producers stay domestic, but now those producers stay domestic, but now those producers are like, "Cool guys, I'll let it stay are like, "Cool guys, I'll let it stay are like, "Cool guys, I'll let it stay domestic, but you're going to have to domestic, but you're going to have to domestic, but you're going to have to match the price that I can get on the match the price that I can get on the match the price that I can get on the international market." So the prices are international market." So the prices are international market." So the prices are still going to go up. Whether we're ever still going to go up. Whether we're ever still going to go up. Whether we're ever going to deal with shortages is a going to deal with shortages is a going to deal with shortages is a different story. You're still going to different story. You're still going to different story. You're still going to see the price climb. So that will be see the price climb. So that will be see the price climb. So that will be extraordinarily impactful to the global extraordinarily impactful to the global extraordinarily impactful to the global economy. So, um, the reason that I hope economy. So, um, the reason that I hope economy. So, um, the reason that I hope myself and everybody else included stays myself and everybody else included stays myself and everybody else included stays alert to just how, uh, high risk this alert to just how, uh, high risk this alert to just how, uh, high risk this moment is from a global economic moment is from a global economic moment is from a global economic standpoint, not just loss of human life standpoint, not just loss of human life standpoint, not just loss of human life standpoint, is that this is the kind of standpoint, is that this is the kind of standpoint, is that this is the kind of thing that escalates out of control. thing that escalates out of control. thing that escalates out of control. You're never able to get the escalatory You're never able to get the escalatory You're never able to get the escalatory dominance that you were hoping to get. dominance that you were hoping to get. dominance that you were hoping to get. And so, the straight of horn moves then And so, the straight of horn moves then And so, the straight of horn moves then just effectively get shut down and the just effectively get shut down and the just effectively get shut down and the world will respond. in um Saudi for world will respond. in um Saudi for world will respond. in um Saudi for instance is already beginning to pump instance is already beginning to pump instance is already beginning to pump oil over land. So it will do things like oil over land. So it will do things like oil over land. So it will do things like that. We'll reorganize around North that. We'll reorganize around North that. We'll reorganize around North America both US and Canada that are you America both US and Canada that are you America both US and Canada that are you know getting richer because the world is know getting richer because the world is know getting richer because the world is now turning to us for more oil. So it's now turning to us for more oil. So it's now turning to us for more oil. So it's it's all going to be these crazy it's all going to be these crazy it's all going to be these crazy trade-offs but that will take time. It trade-offs but that will take time. It trade-offs but that will take time. It will not be a smooth transition. Let's will not be a smooth transition. Let's will not be a smooth transition. Let's say that. So um yeah, say that. So um yeah, say that. So um yeah, >> there is some good news on the horizon >> there is some good news on the horizon >> there is some good news on the horizon with that though. OPEC met yesterday and with that though. OPEC met yesterday and with that though. OPEC met yesterday and they are agreeing to increase their they are agreeing to increase their they are agreeing to increase their output. So at least from a supply and output. So at least from a supply and output. So at least from a supply and demand perspective, they're at least demand perspective, they're at least demand perspective, they're at least helping add to the supply which helping add to the supply which helping add to the supply which >> if they can ship it around, you know, >> if they can ship it around, you know, >> if they can ship it around, you know, yes, but a lot of this isn't that yes, but a lot of this isn't that yes, but a lot of this isn't that >> oil production is a problem right now. >> oil production is a problem right now. >> oil production is a problem right now. It's that moving the oil is the hard It's that moving the oil is the hard It's that moving the oil is the hard part. So that's awesome that OPEC is part. So that's awesome that OPEC is part. So that's awesome that OPEC is doing that for sure. Uh but if a large doing that for sure. Uh but if a large doing that for sure. Uh but if a large portion of OPEC is getting bombed portion of OPEC is getting bombed portion of OPEC is getting bombed then now you have a problem. So and if then now you have a problem. So and if then now you have a problem. So and if they can't move it because the Houthies they can't move it because the Houthies they can't move it because the Houthies have talked about getting involved in have talked about getting involved in have talked about getting involved in the Red Sea which would be create the Red Sea which would be create the Red Sea which would be create another choke point. So um it's probably another choke point. So um it's probably another choke point. So um it's probably more precarious than anybody wants you more precarious than anybody wants you more precarious than anybody wants you to think. Now we'll see how it plays to think. Now we'll see how it plays to think. Now we'll see how it plays out. No need to get out over our skis. out. No need to get out over our skis. out. No need to get out over our skis. That is certainly the reality of That is certainly the reality of That is certainly the reality of asymmetric warfare is such that Trump is asymmetric warfare is such that Trump is asymmetric warfare is such that Trump is going to continually feel like how much going to continually feel like how much going to continually feel like how much do I have to break these guys before do I have to break these guys before do I have to break these guys before they finally give in and because that's they finally give in and because that's they finally give in and because that's his mental model that I can put enough his mental model that I can put enough his mental model that I can put enough pressure on you and you will eventually pressure on you and you will eventually pressure on you and you will eventually cave. Um I think this is going to go cave. Um I think this is going to go cave. Um I think this is going to go really far and he's going to destroy a really far and he's going to destroy a really far and he's going to destroy a lot of stuff only to realize like damn lot of stuff only to realize like damn lot of stuff only to realize like damn like we really might have to put boots like we really might have to put boots like we really might have to put boots on the ground if we want to get where we on the ground if we want to get where we on the ground if we want to get where we want to get. and I worry that he would want to get. and I worry that he would want to get. and I worry that he would be willing to do that. So, when he talks be willing to do that. So, when he talks be willing to do that. So, when he talks about taking the off-ramp, and by the about taking the off-ramp, and by the about taking the off-ramp, and by the way, at least before we went live, it way, at least before we went live, it way, at least before we went live, it looked like the markets are pricing in a looked like the markets are pricing in a looked like the markets are pricing in a ceasefire. So, that's some good news in ceasefire. So, that's some good news in ceasefire. So, that's some good news in terms of what they call the sharps terms of what they call the sharps terms of what they call the sharps placing their bets. placing their bets. placing their bets. >> Um, so I'd love to see that. But at the >> Um, so I'd love to see that. But at the >> Um, so I'd love to see that. But at the same time, there is a path where I can same time, there is a path where I can same time, there is a path where I can see this becomes runaway. Trump destroys see this becomes runaway. Trump destroys see this becomes runaway. Trump destroys their civilian infrastructure. They then their civilian infrastructure. They then their civilian infrastructure. They then respond even harder and they just respond even harder and they just respond even harder and they just completely shut down the straight. They completely shut down the straight. They completely shut down the straight. They start attacking the oil infrastructure start attacking the oil infrastructure start attacking the oil infrastructure and possibly desalinization and possibly desalinization and possibly desalinization infrastructure across the Gulf. And now infrastructure across the Gulf. And now infrastructure across the Gulf. And now you're in a much worse global position. you're in a much worse global position. you're in a much worse global position. Again, we'll rebalance. I'm well aware Again, we'll rebalance. I'm well aware Again, we'll rebalance. I'm well aware that the world has no shortage of oil. that the world has no shortage of oil. that the world has no shortage of oil. There are plenty of places other than There are plenty of places other than There are plenty of places other than the Middle East where we can get oil. Um the Middle East where we can get oil. Um the Middle East where we can get oil. Um but the transition will be but the transition will be but the transition will be extraordinarily expensive. extraordinarily expensive. extraordinarily expensive. >> Yeah. Going back to the straight, there >> Yeah. Going back to the straight, there >> Yeah. Going back to the straight, there was reports that um from Fox News that was reports that um from Fox News that was reports that um from Fox News that they're thinking about doing some type they're thinking about doing some type they're thinking about doing some type of toll booth vessel fee and then of toll booth vessel fee and then of toll booth vessel fee and then America responding to that will say, America responding to that will say, America responding to that will say, "Well, we'll do a $2 million escort fee "Well, we'll do a $2 million escort fee "Well, we'll do a $2 million escort fee for every vessel." for every vessel." for every vessel." >> So, it's one of those things. Do you >> So, it's one of those things. Do you >> So, it's one of those things. Do you think that this is viable having an think that this is viable having an think that this is viable having an actual escort versus a toll booth? It actual escort versus a toll booth? It actual escort versus a toll booth? It seems on paper it sounds good, but when seems on paper it sounds good, but when seems on paper it sounds good, but when missiles are flying, I don't know if any missiles are flying, I don't know if any missiles are flying, I don't know if any company wants to take that chance. I I company wants to take that chance. I I company wants to take that chance. I I think the reality is that if think the reality is that if think the reality is that if first of all, the person that put that first of all, the person that put that first of all, the person that put that forward was just like a guy. That's not forward was just like a guy. That's not forward was just like a guy. That's not like actual Trump policy. like actual Trump policy. like actual Trump policy. >> Um, but I think that if you're charging >> Um, but I think that if you're charging >> Um, but I think that if you're charging people that kind of money, first of all, people that kind of money, first of all, people that kind of money, first of all, you look like an [ __ ] because you you look like an [ __ ] because you you look like an [ __ ] because you started this and now you're profiting started this and now you're profiting started this and now you're profiting off of it. off of it. off of it. >> If we were actually able to get people >> If we were actually able to get people >> If we were actually able to get people through the straight, we should do it through the straight, we should do it through the straight, we should do it for free and show people, hey, look, we for free and show people, hey, look, we for free and show people, hey, look, we can actually keep this straight open. I can actually keep this straight open. I can actually keep this straight open. I think the problem is we can't actually think the problem is we can't actually think the problem is we can't actually keep this straight open. We keep saying keep this straight open. We keep saying keep this straight open. We keep saying we can, we can, we can, >> but then a couple wellplaced drones and >> but then a couple wellplaced drones and >> but then a couple wellplaced drones and everybody gets real skittish. It's like everybody gets real skittish. It's like everybody gets real skittish. It's like that idea that, hey, there's, you know, that idea that, hey, there's, you know, that idea that, hey, there's, you know, whatever only 30 soldiers with with whatever only 30 soldiers with with whatever only 30 soldiers with with guns, they can't kill us all. It's like, guns, they can't kill us all. It's like, guns, they can't kill us all. It's like, yes, but they can kill the front two or yes, but they can kill the front two or yes, but they can kill the front two or three rows. So, how do you get that three rows. So, how do you get that three rows. So, how do you get that momentum? Like, how do you get the first momentum? Like, how do you get the first momentum? Like, how do you get the first people to run in to be the, you know, people to run in to be the, you know, people to run in to be the, you know, the machine gun fire? So, if anybody's the machine gun fire? So, if anybody's the machine gun fire? So, if anybody's seen the movie um Saving Private Ryan, seen the movie um Saving Private Ryan, seen the movie um Saving Private Ryan, there's a phenomenal scene where uh there's a phenomenal scene where uh there's a phenomenal scene where uh D-Day attack World War II, they're D-Day attack World War II, they're D-Day attack World War II, they're storming the beaches in Normandy, and storming the beaches in Normandy, and storming the beaches in Normandy, and you realize there's nowhere for you to you realize there's nowhere for you to you realize there's nowhere for you to go. As soon as they open the doors, go. As soon as they open the doors, go. As soon as they open the doors, you're getting shot. So, you either move you're getting shot. So, you either move you're getting shot. So, you either move forward, jump over the side, something, forward, jump over the side, something, forward, jump over the side, something, but you're either going to die there in but you're either going to die there in but you're either going to die there in the boat, you're going to drown if you the boat, you're going to drown if you the boat, you're going to drown if you can't get to the shore, or you're going can't get to the shore, or you're going can't get to the shore, or you're going to push forward, taking the risk of to push forward, taking the risk of to push forward, taking the risk of getting shot. And so, eventually, you getting shot. And so, eventually, you getting shot. And so, eventually, you just get put in that position. So what just get put in that position. So what just get put in that position. So what would need to happen for people to be would need to happen for people to be would need to happen for people to be willing to take that chance? It would willing to take that chance? It would willing to take that chance? It would have to be dire. And so without have to be dire. And so without have to be dire. And so without hopefully we never find ourselves in hopefully we never find ourselves in hopefully we never find ourselves in this with in that situation. Um and this with in that situation. Um and this with in that situation. Um and yeah, the Trump admin charging $2 yeah, the Trump admin charging $2 yeah, the Trump admin charging $2 million to solve a problem that they million to solve a problem that they million to solve a problem that they started is not going to go over well. started is not going to go over well. started is not going to go over well. >> Yeah. Do you do you worry about any of >> Yeah. Do you do you worry about any of >> Yeah. Do you do you worry about any of the international implications of us the international implications of us the international implications of us attacking a bridge, attacking power attacking a bridge, attacking power attacking a bridge, attacking power plants plants plants >> every day? >> every day? >> every day? >> Um because that that is an international >> Um because that that is an international >> Um because that that is an international war crime line. Um but I feel like war crime line. Um but I feel like war crime line. Um but I feel like nowadays it's like what's a couple war nowadays it's like what's a couple war nowadays it's like what's a couple war crimes amongst friends literally. crimes amongst friends literally. crimes amongst friends literally. >> So I don't think we'll necessarily have >> So I don't think we'll necessarily have >> So I don't think we'll necessarily have anybody policing us in that. But is anybody policing us in that. But is anybody policing us in that. But is there some type of moral high ground we there some type of moral high ground we there some type of moral high ground we need to take or is at this point it's need to take or is at this point it's need to take or is at this point it's just we have to win. Get out of here. We just we have to win. Get out of here. We just we have to win. Get out of here. We we gave up the moral high ground a very we gave up the moral high ground a very we gave up the moral high ground a very long time ago. And so the only question long time ago. And so the only question long time ago. And so the only question is does this moment in history mandate is does this moment in history mandate is does this moment in history mandate that you give up the moral high ground? that you give up the moral high ground? that you give up the moral high ground? I don't know that that will be a I don't know that that will be a I don't know that that will be a question for historians to look at. question for historians to look at. question for historians to look at. >> Um it is living through it is not fun >> Um it is living through it is not fun >> Um it is living through it is not fun because all of the sense of like okay because all of the sense of like okay because all of the sense of like okay we're America we're doing the just thing we're America we're doing the just thing we're America we're doing the just thing like that has gone out the window. Uh like that has gone out the window. Uh like that has gone out the window. Uh now the question becomes are we doing now the question becomes are we doing now the question becomes are we doing the effective thing? Maybe we'll see the effective thing? Maybe we'll see the effective thing? Maybe we'll see that will come out in the wash. that will come out in the wash. that will come out in the wash. >> Um, right now it looks like everything >> Um, right now it looks like everything >> Um, right now it looks like everything is up in the air and it is entirely is up in the air and it is entirely is up in the air and it is entirely possible that it all comes crashing back possible that it all comes crashing back possible that it all comes crashing back down to earth and that what we end up down to earth and that what we end up down to earth and that what we end up with is a situation where the global with is a situation where the global with is a situation where the global economy is in a recession because we economy is in a recession because we economy is in a recession because we have um put ourselves in a position have um put ourselves in a position have um put ourselves in a position where we cannot effectively get the oil where we cannot effectively get the oil where we cannot effectively get the oil out of the Middle East and we need to out of the Middle East and we need to out of the Middle East and we need to begin transitioning into a future world begin transitioning into a future world begin transitioning into a future world order. by the way, a world order where order. by the way, a world order where order. by the way, a world order where America is probably fine because of our America is probably fine because of our America is probably fine because of our geographic positioning, because of our geographic positioning, because of our geographic positioning, because of our access to resources, access to resources, access to resources, all of that. But it will be I mean, how all of that. But it will be I mean, how all of that. But it will be I mean, how long does that take? Is that a year? Is long does that take? Is that a year? Is long does that take? Is that a year? Is that two years? Is it three years? that two years? Is it three years? that two years? Is it three years? That's a long time to be in the g grips That's a long time to be in the g grips That's a long time to be in the g grips of a global recession. And the question of a global recession. And the question of a global recession. And the question is, does America stay stable? I won't is, does America stay stable? I won't is, does America stay stable? I won't say intact, but I will say stable say intact, but I will say stable say intact, but I will say stable through all of that because there is so through all of that because there is so through all of that because there is so much hatred between the two sides. Um, I much hatred between the two sides. Um, I much hatred between the two sides. Um, I won't fractal into fraud, but there's a won't fractal into fraud, but there's a won't fractal into fraud, but there's a fractal to be had on fraud right here fractal to be had on fraud right here fractal to be had on fraud right here where you just see the two sides racing where you just see the two sides racing where you just see the two sides racing away from each other. Um, yeah. So until away from each other. Um, yeah. So until away from each other. Um, yeah. So until we see how this actually plays out, we see how this actually plays out, we see how this actually plays out, until we see if the US can get um a until we see if the US can get um a until we see if the US can get um a stable Iran, if we can get an open stable Iran, if we can get an open stable Iran, if we can get an open straight of Hormuz, if we can get things straight of Hormuz, if we can get things straight of Hormuz, if we can get things flowing again, and then it looks like flowing again, and then it looks like flowing again, and then it looks like this sort of very icky, morally this sort of very icky, morally this sort of very icky, morally repugnant move that we made, if we can repugnant move that we made, if we can repugnant move that we made, if we can go, okay, well, in the end, we got what go, okay, well, in the end, we got what go, okay, well, in the end, we got what we wanted, which is a defanged Iran, a we wanted, which is a defanged Iran, a we wanted, which is a defanged Iran, a stable alliance in the Middle East, the stable alliance in the Middle East, the stable alliance in the Middle East, the Abraham Accords bringing everybody Abraham Accords bringing everybody Abraham Accords bringing everybody together. finally everybody in the together. finally everybody in the together. finally everybody in the Middle East looking at this as the Middle East looking at this as the Middle East looking at this as the economic problem that it is instead of economic problem that it is instead of economic problem that it is instead of end of days um theology which is what it end of days um theology which is what it end of days um theology which is what it feels like more now. So if Trump can feels like more now. So if Trump can feels like more now. So if Trump can actually pull that off and on the other actually pull that off and on the other actually pull that off and on the other side of this in the very near term like side of this in the very near term like side of this in the very near term like if this is a 30-dayish if this is a 30-dayish if this is a 30-dayish thing where we start seeing everything thing where we start seeing everything thing where we start seeing everything move in that direction um then I think move in that direction um then I think move in that direction um then I think people will go okay the results that we people will go okay the results that we people will go okay the results that we got justify what we did. You'll still got justify what we did. You'll still got justify what we did. You'll still have a ton of fighting over war crimes have a ton of fighting over war crimes have a ton of fighting over war crimes and get Trump out, lock him up, all of and get Trump out, lock him up, all of and get Trump out, lock him up, all of that. Um, but it will deflate a lot if that. Um, but it will deflate a lot if that. Um, but it will deflate a lot if the result is good. If the result is the result is good. If the result is the result is good. If the result is bad, he's toast. bad, he's toast. bad, he's toast. >> What's the um first paragraph of the >> What's the um first paragraph of the >> What's the um first paragraph of the fraud fractal right there? I don't fraud fractal right there? I don't fraud fractal right there? I don't understand the tie in. understand the tie in. understand the tie in. >> So, you've got the left and the right >> So, you've got the left and the right >> So, you've got the left and the right are both plundering America. are both plundering America. are both plundering America. >> They're doing it in different ways. So >> They're doing it in different ways. So >> They're doing it in different ways. So the right is going, "All right, we have the right is going, "All right, we have the right is going, "All right, we have very little left on our power play. very little left on our power play. very little left on our power play. Let's go remake the world to make sure Let's go remake the world to make sure Let's go remake the world to make sure in this new phase that is multipolar, in this new phase that is multipolar, in this new phase that is multipolar, that we're in an incredibly dominant that we're in an incredibly dominant that we're in an incredibly dominant position in the Western Hemisphere and position in the Western Hemisphere and position in the Western Hemisphere and that the Middle Eastern switch to not that the Middle Eastern switch to not that the Middle Eastern switch to not just being about oil, but being just being about oil, but being just being about oil, but being investing feeds the Western Hemisphere. investing feeds the Western Hemisphere. investing feeds the Western Hemisphere. Then you've got the people on the left Then you've got the people on the left Then you've got the people on the left that are like, "Okay, for us to maintain that are like, "Okay, for us to maintain that are like, "Okay, for us to maintain power, we've got to get more people that power, we've got to get more people that power, we've got to get more people that are likely to vote blue." So basically, are likely to vote blue." So basically, are likely to vote blue." So basically, open borders, bring in as many people open borders, bring in as many people open borders, bring in as many people that are reliant on our government that are reliant on our government that are reliant on our government largees, so Medicare, Medicaid, all that largees, so Medicare, Medicaid, all that largees, so Medicare, Medicaid, all that kind of stuff, welfare. Um, get them in kind of stuff, welfare. Um, get them in kind of stuff, welfare. Um, get them in and then yes, there's going to be a ton and then yes, there's going to be a ton and then yes, there's going to be a ton of fraud that comes up with that, but of fraud that comes up with that, but of fraud that comes up with that, but you're able to draw more people into you're able to draw more people into you're able to draw more people into your state and the overall impact is we your state and the overall impact is we your state and the overall impact is we stay in power. So, I don't need people stay in power. So, I don't need people stay in power. So, I don't need people to like one or the other. I just want to like one or the other. I just want to like one or the other. I just want everybody to map. Ah, cool. Like, no everybody to map. Ah, cool. Like, no everybody to map. Ah, cool. Like, no matter which way I go, I've got somebody matter which way I go, I've got somebody matter which way I go, I've got somebody that's trying to plunder the middle and that's trying to plunder the middle and that's trying to plunder the middle and working class via inflation to do their working class via inflation to do their working class via inflation to do their insane thing. And insane thing. And insane thing. And full disclosure, in terms of my biases, full disclosure, in terms of my biases, full disclosure, in terms of my biases, I'm far more interested in the US being I'm far more interested in the US being I'm far more interested in the US being in a strong position moving forward. Um, in a strong position moving forward. Um, in a strong position moving forward. Um, but nonetheless, what's happening right but nonetheless, what's happening right but nonetheless, what's happening right now is gross. now is gross. now is gross. Copy. Um I also want to do an update on Copy. Um I also want to do an update on Copy. Um I also want to do an update on the rescue of the pilots. Uh because we the rescue of the pilots. Uh because we the rescue of the pilots. Uh because we have reports that they were rescued. have reports that they were rescued. have reports that they were rescued. >> It's very a lot of spin out there. So >> It's very a lot of spin out there. So >> It's very a lot of spin out there. So let's just talk about what we what we let's just talk about what we what we let's just talk about what we what we what we know. Yeah. But I have seen what we know. Yeah. But I have seen what we know. Yeah. But I have seen everything from it was a successful everything from it was a successful everything from it was a successful rescue to it was a planned op to it was rescue to it was a planned op to it was rescue to it was a planned op to it was supposed to be a ground invasion and supposed to be a ground invasion and supposed to be a ground invasion and then it foiled and now they've add. So then it foiled and now they've add. So then it foiled and now they've add. So help us see through the fog of what's help us see through the fog of what's help us see through the fog of what's actually happened with it. actually happened with it. actually happened with it. >> Let's cover all the narratives. So, No >> Let's cover all the narratives. So, No >> Let's cover all the narratives. So, No Man Left Behind really was the phrase of Man Left Behind really was the phrase of Man Left Behind really was the phrase of the day as the US pulled off, from where the day as the US pulled off, from where the day as the US pulled off, from where I'm sitting, an incredible rescue I'm sitting, an incredible rescue I'm sitting, an incredible rescue operation to extract the downed F-15E operation to extract the downed F-15E operation to extract the downed F-15E crew. There were two of them. Uh, at one crew. There were two of them. Uh, at one crew. There were two of them. Uh, at one point they were both stuck in Iran. Um, point they were both stuck in Iran. Um, point they were both stuck in Iran. Um, and the rescue ended up taking about 48 and the rescue ended up taking about 48 and the rescue ended up taking about 48 hours, dozens of aircraft, and a CIA hours, dozens of aircraft, and a CIA hours, dozens of aircraft, and a CIA deception campaign. Iran says it was a deception campaign. Iran says it was a deception campaign. Iran says it was a catastrophic failure disguised as a catastrophic failure disguised as a catastrophic failure disguised as a victory. And the internet has a whole victory. And the internet has a whole victory. And the internet has a whole different ball of wax that we'll get different ball of wax that we'll get different ball of wax that we'll get into. Now, please keep in mind, as Drew into. Now, please keep in mind, as Drew into. Now, please keep in mind, as Drew said, we are in the middle of said, we are in the middle of said, we are in the middle of information warfare right now. So, what information warfare right now. So, what information warfare right now. So, what I'm going to walk you through is the I'm going to walk you through is the I'm going to walk you through is the closest thing to the truth that I can closest thing to the truth that I can closest thing to the truth that I can cobble together at this early stage. And cobble together at this early stage. And cobble together at this early stage. And I'll give you the dominant I'll give you the dominant I'll give you the dominant counternarratives that are coming out on counternarratives that are coming out on counternarratives that are coming out on the internet, but the official story is the internet, but the official story is the internet, but the official story is that the F-15E went down over that the F-15E went down over that the F-15E went down over southwestern Iran on Friday. Both crew southwestern Iran on Friday. Both crew southwestern Iran on Friday. Both crew members ejected into hostile territory. members ejected into hostile territory. members ejected into hostile territory. The pilot was actually pulled out the The pilot was actually pulled out the The pilot was actually pulled out the same day after a 7-hour operation in same day after a 7-hour operation in same day after a 7-hour operation in broad daylight. By the way, they ended broad daylight. By the way, they ended broad daylight. By the way, they ended up getting him safe and sound. The White up getting him safe and sound. The White up getting him safe and sound. The White House stayed silent about all of this House stayed silent about all of this House stayed silent about all of this stuff while it was unfolding to avoid stuff while it was unfolding to avoid stuff while it was unfolding to avoid tipping off Iran and compromising the tipping off Iran and compromising the tipping off Iran and compromising the search for the second airman who is the search for the second airman who is the search for the second airman who is the weapon systems uh operator. And that weapon systems uh operator. And that weapon systems uh operator. And that person is a fullbird colonel. And they person is a fullbird colonel. And they person is a fullbird colonel. And they spent roughly the 48 hours evading spent roughly the 48 hours evading spent roughly the 48 hours evading capture in the mountains. He crawled up capture in the mountains. He crawled up capture in the mountains. He crawled up as high as he could into a mountain as high as he could into a mountain as high as he could into a mountain crevice and just wait. It was like 7,000 crevice and just wait. It was like 7,000 crevice and just wait. It was like 7,000 ft or something. Now, I doubt very much ft or something. Now, I doubt very much ft or something. Now, I doubt very much that this was like an Alex Honold type, that this was like an Alex Honold type, that this was like an Alex Honold type, you know, bare knuckle climb. I'm sure you know, bare knuckle climb. I'm sure you know, bare knuckle climb. I'm sure it was a little bit easier than that, it was a little bit easier than that, it was a little bit easier than that, but nonetheless, he scrambled up into a but nonetheless, he scrambled up into a but nonetheless, he scrambled up into a ravine that he could hide in. Iran was ravine that he could hide in. Iran was ravine that he could hide in. Iran was offering a $60,000 reward for his offering a $60,000 reward for his offering a $60,000 reward for his location, and IRGC forces were actively location, and IRGC forces were actively location, and IRGC forces were actively hunting him down. The CIA had to run a hunting him down. The CIA had to run a hunting him down. The CIA had to run a deception campaign inside of Iran, deception campaign inside of Iran, deception campaign inside of Iran, spreading word that both crew members spreading word that both crew members spreading word that both crew members had actually already been recovered. And had actually already been recovered. And had actually already been recovered. And that was an effort to throw off the that was an effort to throw off the that was an effort to throw off the search teams. But they didn't do a very search teams. But they didn't do a very search teams. But they didn't do a very good job since it was all over Twitter good job since it was all over Twitter good job since it was all over Twitter that one of them, the weapons systems that one of them, the weapons systems that one of them, the weapons systems operator, was still behind enemy lines operator, was still behind enemy lines operator, was still behind enemy lines and had potentially um already been and had potentially um already been and had potentially um already been taken into custody by the Iranians. If I taken into custody by the Iranians. If I taken into custody by the Iranians. If I remember right, that's what we said at remember right, that's what we said at remember right, that's what we said at the very end of the broadcast on Friday. the very end of the broadcast on Friday. the very end of the broadcast on Friday. We were seeing reports that he had been We were seeing reports that he had been We were seeing reports that he had been captured. Thankfully, he had not. Now, captured. Thankfully, he had not. Now, captured. Thankfully, he had not. Now, one of the really bizarre twists of all one of the really bizarre twists of all one of the really bizarre twists of all of this is while Trump was radio silent, of this is while Trump was radio silent, of this is while Trump was radio silent, heads down, just trying to deal with heads down, just trying to deal with heads down, just trying to deal with this, it looked like um the online this, it looked like um the online this, it looked like um the online Dennis here in the US were actually Dennis here in the US were actually Dennis here in the US were actually trying to convince the public that Trump trying to convince the public that Trump trying to convince the public that Trump was dead or dying at Walter Reed Medical was dead or dying at Walter Reed Medical was dead or dying at Walter Reed Medical Center. I mean, there were tons of Center. I mean, there were tons of Center. I mean, there were tons of reports of people saying that they saw reports of people saying that they saw reports of people saying that they saw like all this insane activity and that like all this insane activity and that like all this insane activity and that the American people were being lied to the American people were being lied to the American people were being lied to and they were keeping it from Trump. You and they were keeping it from Trump. You and they were keeping it from Trump. You can put literally tweet after tweet can put literally tweet after tweet can put literally tweet after tweet after tweet of people using almost after tweet of people using almost after tweet of people using almost identical language which is becoming a identical language which is becoming a identical language which is becoming a thing on the left and the right. So uh thing on the left and the right. So uh thing on the left and the right. So uh don't get confused there. But as it don't get confused there. But as it don't get confused there. But as it turns out Trump had ordered uh an turns out Trump had ordered uh an turns out Trump had ordered uh an extraction just kneedeep in overseeing extraction just kneedeep in overseeing extraction just kneedeep in overseeing the operation. Dozens of heavily armed the operation. Dozens of heavily armed the operation. Dozens of heavily armed aircraft went in. The rescue required aircraft went in. The rescue required aircraft went in. The rescue required the US to set up an entire improvised the US to set up an entire improvised the US to set up an entire improvised airfield deep inside of Iran near airfield deep inside of Iran near airfield deep inside of Iran near Isvahan. And analysts note, this is Isvahan. And analysts note, this is Isvahan. And analysts note, this is going to be important in a minute. going to be important in a minute. going to be important in a minute. Analysts know that Isvahan is exactly Analysts know that Isvahan is exactly Analysts know that Isvahan is exactly where Iran's buried stockpile of where Iran's buried stockpile of where Iran's buried stockpile of highlyenriched uranium is buried. So highlyenriched uranium is buried. So highlyenriched uranium is buried. So keep that in mind. We're going to get to keep that in mind. We're going to get to keep that in mind. We're going to get to that uh that whole angle in a second. that uh that whole angle in a second. that uh that whole angle in a second. Now this was not like a simple Now this was not like a simple Now this was not like a simple helicopter swoops in, snatches up the helicopter swoops in, snatches up the helicopter swoops in, snatches up the airmen, and takes off. US special forces airmen, and takes off. US special forces airmen, and takes off. US special forces carved an improvised air strip out of carved an improvised air strip out of carved an improvised air strip out of hostile mountainous terrain deep inside hostile mountainous terrain deep inside hostile mountainous terrain deep inside of Iran. flew in hundreds of troops and of Iran. flew in hundreds of troops and of Iran. flew in hundreds of troops and dozens of aircraft and used Littlebird dozens of aircraft and used Littlebird dozens of aircraft and used Littlebird helicopters to push commandos up into helicopters to push commandos up into helicopters to push commandos up into the mountains where the colonel was the mountains where the colonel was the mountains where the colonel was hiding. US Air Force jets also conducted hiding. US Air Force jets also conducted hiding. US Air Force jets also conducted strikes against IRGC forces that were strikes against IRGC forces that were strikes against IRGC forces that were actively trying to reach him and get him actively trying to reach him and get him actively trying to reach him and get him into custody. And any convoy that got into custody. And any convoy that got into custody. And any convoy that got close was just shot to death. You see close was just shot to death. You see close was just shot to death. You see plenty of footage of that. The whole plenty of footage of that. The whole plenty of footage of that. The whole thing got super messy. Two MC130J thing got super messy. Two MC130J thing got super messy. Two MC130J aircraft got stuck in the sand and aircraft got stuck in the sand and aircraft got stuck in the sand and couldn't take off. At least that's the couldn't take off. At least that's the couldn't take off. At least that's the official story. The US flew in, three official story. The US flew in, three official story. The US flew in, three replacement aircraft, extracted replacement aircraft, extracted replacement aircraft, extracted everyone, and then blew up the stranded everyone, and then blew up the stranded everyone, and then blew up the stranded aircraft. Uh, so it was like two of the aircraft. Uh, so it was like two of the aircraft. Uh, so it was like two of the C130s plus I think four helicopters. C130s plus I think four helicopters. C130s plus I think four helicopters. I've seen reports there were two I've seen reports there were two I've seen reports there were two helicopters, seen some that were four. helicopters, seen some that were four. helicopters, seen some that were four. So not entirely sure of the final So not entirely sure of the final So not entirely sure of the final numbers. Those were, according to the numbers. Those were, according to the numbers. Those were, according to the official story, all on the ground official story, all on the ground official story, all on the ground already stuck in the sand and they blew already stuck in the sand and they blew already stuck in the sand and they blew them up so that they could keep them out them up so that they could keep them out them up so that they could keep them out of Iranian hands because this is of Iranian hands because this is of Iranian hands because this is obviously highly sophisticated machinery obviously highly sophisticated machinery obviously highly sophisticated machinery that they don't want them to understand that they don't want them to understand that they don't want them to understand what we've got going on. Now, there were what we've got going on. Now, there were what we've got going on. Now, there were rumors flying that at least one of the rumors flying that at least one of the rumors flying that at least one of the C130s was shot out of the air and given C130s was shot out of the air and given C130s was shot out of the air and given that they don't have ejection seats that that they don't have ejection seats that that they don't have ejection seats that there had to be US casualties. Now, it there had to be US casualties. Now, it there had to be US casualties. Now, it seems like seems like seems like in reality the aircraft that was in reality the aircraft that was in reality the aircraft that was actually hit was an A-10 Wartthog that actually hit was an A-10 Wartthog that actually hit was an A-10 Wartthog that was providing cover fire during the was providing cover fire during the was providing cover fire during the rescue. Despite the fact that it was rescue. Despite the fact that it was rescue. Despite the fact that it was hit, it managed to make it all the way hit, it managed to make it all the way hit, it managed to make it all the way to Kuwaiti airspace where the pilot then to Kuwaiti airspace where the pilot then to Kuwaiti airspace where the pilot then safely ejected. The aircraft did crash. safely ejected. The aircraft did crash. safely ejected. The aircraft did crash. So, you could say that it was shot down So, you could say that it was shot down So, you could say that it was shot down for sure, but it wasn't shot down over for sure, but it wasn't shot down over for sure, but it wasn't shot down over Iranian territory. It managed to limp Iranian territory. It managed to limp Iranian territory. It managed to limp all the way to Kuwaiti airspace where all the way to Kuwaiti airspace where all the way to Kuwaiti airspace where the pilot got out safe and sound. Okay, the pilot got out safe and sound. Okay, the pilot got out safe and sound. Okay, all of that is the official story. Iran all of that is the official story. Iran all of that is the official story. Iran is telling a very different story and it is telling a very different story and it is telling a very different story and it says that it shot down the C130s that says that it shot down the C130s that says that it shot down the C130s that the US is claiming that they destroyed the US is claiming that they destroyed the US is claiming that they destroyed in place. Iran also claimed there was at in place. Iran also claimed there was at in place. Iran also claimed there was at least one dead US soldier in the least one dead US soldier in the least one dead US soldier in the wreckage. And there's an image that wreckage. And there's an image that wreckage. And there's an image that they're putting around that looks like a they're putting around that looks like a they're putting around that looks like a skull is burned. These days, I don't skull is burned. These days, I don't skull is burned. These days, I don't trust anything that I see. Um, some trust anything that I see. Um, some trust anything that I see. Um, some people online have even claimed that the people online have even claimed that the people online have even claimed that the Iranians are reporting that the US Iranians are reporting that the US Iranians are reporting that the US killed their own service member to keep killed their own service member to keep killed their own service member to keep them from being captured. This is a them from being captured. This is a them from being captured. This is a concept that the Israelis use known as concept that the Israelis use known as concept that the Israelis use known as the Hannibal doctrine where it's like, the Hannibal doctrine where it's like, the Hannibal doctrine where it's like, well, if they're about to get captured, well, if they're about to get captured, well, if they're about to get captured, better to kill them than to let them be better to kill them than to let them be better to kill them than to let them be tortured. So, those are some of the tortured. So, those are some of the tortured. So, those are some of the narratives running around. There's also narratives running around. There's also narratives running around. There's also another narrative making the rounds on another narrative making the rounds on another narrative making the rounds on social media that this wasn't a daring social media that this wasn't a daring social media that this wasn't a daring rescue at all. This was a failed attempt rescue at all. This was a failed attempt rescue at all. This was a failed attempt to secure the uranium in Isvahan. Now, to secure the uranium in Isvahan. Now, to secure the uranium in Isvahan. Now, given the fact that this all took place given the fact that this all took place given the fact that this all took place in Isvahan, where Iran's uranium stash in Isvahan, where Iran's uranium stash in Isvahan, where Iran's uranium stash is said to be buried underground, it's is said to be buried underground, it's is said to be buried underground, it's not exactly hard to see why conspiracy not exactly hard to see why conspiracy not exactly hard to see why conspiracy soaked chronically online people would soaked chronically online people would soaked chronically online people would be understandably, by the way, be understandably, by the way, be understandably, by the way, distrusting of everything that they distrusting of everything that they distrusting of everything that they hear. They gravitated towards this hear. They gravitated towards this hear. They gravitated towards this version of events. I certainly don't version of events. I certainly don't version of events. I certainly don't blame them. It is very tempting. And who blame them. It is very tempting. And who blame them. It is very tempting. And who knows, in the fullness of time, I've knows, in the fullness of time, I've knows, in the fullness of time, I've seen conspiracy theorists go up big on seen conspiracy theorists go up big on seen conspiracy theorists go up big on plenty of stories. So, we'll see. Given plenty of stories. So, we'll see. Given plenty of stories. So, we'll see. Given that experts right now are admitting that experts right now are admitting that experts right now are admitting that if in the future we wanted to go that if in the future we wanted to go that if in the future we wanted to go get the uranium, any future operation get the uranium, any future operation get the uranium, any future operation would require the same infrastructure would require the same infrastructure would require the same infrastructure that was laid down for this rescue. that was laid down for this rescue. that was laid down for this rescue. Namely, a local or makeshift air strip Namely, a local or makeshift air strip Namely, a local or makeshift air strip near Iran's Batter Air Base, which sits near Iran's Batter Air Base, which sits near Iran's Batter Air Base, which sits roughly 10 km from the Isvahan nuclear roughly 10 km from the Isvahan nuclear roughly 10 km from the Isvahan nuclear complex. Iran's military is certainly complex. Iran's military is certainly complex. Iran's military is certainly pushing this failed uh attempt to get pushing this failed uh attempt to get pushing this failed uh attempt to get the uranium narrative. They claim the the uranium narrative. They claim the the uranium narrative. They claim the entire operation was completely foiled, entire operation was completely foiled, entire operation was completely foiled, that the US used an abandoned airport in that the US used an abandoned airport in that the US used an abandoned airport in southern Isvahan as a base, and that the southern Isvahan as a base, and that the southern Isvahan as a base, and that the two C130 transport planes and two two C130 transport planes and two two C130 transport planes and two Blackhawk helicopters were destroyed by Blackhawk helicopters were destroyed by Blackhawk helicopters were destroyed by the Iranians in the process of them the Iranians in the process of them the Iranians in the process of them trying to get out the with the uranium. trying to get out the with the uranium. trying to get out the with the uranium. So far, the US is sticking to the So far, the US is sticking to the So far, the US is sticking to the official narrative. Again, we'll see in official narrative. Again, we'll see in official narrative. Again, we'll see in the fullness of time what the real the fullness of time what the real the fullness of time what the real details are. But right now, this seems details are. But right now, this seems details are. But right now, this seems like a big win for the US military, like a big win for the US military, like a big win for the US military, certainly for the families of the airmen certainly for the families of the airmen certainly for the families of the airmen that will return safe and sound. So, that will return safe and sound. So, that will return safe and sound. So, man, as somebody who's a fan of the like man, as somebody who's a fan of the like man, as somebody who's a fan of the like Delta Force movies and everything Delta Force movies and everything Delta Force movies and everything starring Arnold Schwarzenegger and uh starring Arnold Schwarzenegger and uh starring Arnold Schwarzenegger and uh Slice Stallone from the 80s, I was Slice Stallone from the 80s, I was Slice Stallone from the 80s, I was loving this moment. We go in, overwhelm loving this moment. We go in, overwhelm loving this moment. We go in, overwhelm them, get our boys out. I'm here for it. them, get our boys out. I'm here for it. them, get our boys out. I'm here for it. I just hope that it's actually what I just hope that it's actually what I just hope that it's actually what happened. Yeah, somebody said in the happened. Yeah, somebody said in the happened. Yeah, somebody said in the chat they're gonna turn this into the chat they're gonna turn this into the chat they're gonna turn this into the movie. Like this is like the next Black movie. Like this is like the next Black movie. Like this is like the next Black type thing. So, we'll see. type thing. So, we'll see. type thing. So, we'll see. >> Um, how do you think Iran is gonna uh >> Um, how do you think Iran is gonna uh >> Um, how do you think Iran is gonna uh respond? respond? respond? >> I think they're in chaos right now, man. >> I think they're in chaos right now, man. >> I think they're in chaos right now, man. Like if So, there are reports coming out Like if So, there are reports coming out Like if So, there are reports coming out right now. We'll see if they're true. right now. We'll see if they're true. right now. We'll see if they're true. >> Uh, that 50 more roughly senior Iranian >> Uh, that 50 more roughly senior Iranian >> Uh, that 50 more roughly senior Iranian leaders made the catastrophic error of leaders made the catastrophic error of leaders made the catastrophic error of getting together in a group and then getting together in a group and then getting together in a group and then getting bombed. Reporting is thin on getting bombed. Reporting is thin on getting bombed. Reporting is thin on that, so we'll see. that, so we'll see. that, so we'll see. But um you can only kill so many people But um you can only kill so many people But um you can only kill so many people and make it hard to get together and and make it hard to get together and and make it hard to get together and share space so many times before it just share space so many times before it just share space so many times before it just becomes hard to have everything be becomes hard to have everything be becomes hard to have everything be coordinated. The good and the bad of coordinated. The good and the bad of coordinated. The good and the bad of decentralized command. The good is very decentralized command. The good is very decentralized command. The good is very hard to kill. The bad is very hard to hard to kill. The bad is very hard to hard to kill. The bad is very hard to coordinate. And so now you're going to coordinate. And so now you're going to coordinate. And so now you're going to be pulling in all kinds of different be pulling in all kinds of different be pulling in all kinds of different directions, which makes negotiating directions, which makes negotiating directions, which makes negotiating difficult because they're going to say, difficult because they're going to say, difficult because they're going to say, "Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll do that." And "Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll do that." And "Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll do that." And then some other guy over here pops off then some other guy over here pops off then some other guy over here pops off and does something that foils the and does something that foils the and does something that foils the negotiations. And they might even be negotiations. And they might even be negotiations. And they might even be able to rightly claim, "Hold on, that able to rightly claim, "Hold on, that able to rightly claim, "Hold on, that [ __ ] guy is like a lunatic. I mean, [ __ ] guy is like a lunatic. I mean, [ __ ] guy is like a lunatic. I mean, remember back in World War II, there was remember back in World War II, there was remember back in World War II, there was a Japanese guy in the jungles of the a Japanese guy in the jungles of the a Japanese guy in the jungles of the Philippines who lived there for like 20 Philippines who lived there for like 20 Philippines who lived there for like 20 years and just refused to believe years and just refused to believe years and just refused to believe anybody that said that the war was anybody that said that the war was anybody that said that the war was over." So, it's like you'll get guys over." So, it's like you'll get guys over." So, it's like you'll get guys that are like, "No, I don't buy it. This that are like, "No, I don't buy it. This that are like, "No, I don't buy it. This is information warfare. You never know is information warfare. You never know is information warfare. You never know what you can trust." Dude, it what you can trust." Dude, it what you can trust." Dude, it information is tough. Even as a CEO of a information is tough. Even as a CEO of a information is tough. Even as a CEO of a relatively small company, I'm just like, relatively small company, I'm just like, relatively small company, I'm just like, it's hard to know. Like, people will it's hard to know. Like, people will it's hard to know. Like, people will manage up, so they'll tell you what they manage up, so they'll tell you what they manage up, so they'll tell you what they think you want to hear. And so you're think you want to hear. And so you're think you want to hear. And so you're like, "God damn it, do I actually have like, "God damn it, do I actually have like, "God damn it, do I actually have the information that I need?" Now the information that I need?" Now the information that I need?" Now imagine that people are bombing you all imagine that people are bombing you all imagine that people are bombing you all the time and you're spread out and the the time and you're spread out and the the time and you're spread out and the Supreme Leader said before he got Supreme Leader said before he got Supreme Leader said before he got killed, "PS, if I get killed, like you killed, "PS, if I get killed, like you killed, "PS, if I get killed, like you guys need to go do your thing. You know guys need to go do your thing. You know guys need to go do your thing. You know what you're supposed to do. Just go what you're supposed to do. Just go what you're supposed to do. Just go wreak havoc in these ways. Go blow these wreak havoc in these ways. Go blow these wreak havoc in these ways. Go blow these things up. This is what you have access things up. This is what you have access things up. This is what you have access to. Go crazy." So like, this is to. Go crazy." So like, this is to. Go crazy." So like, this is undoubtedly a recipe for chaos. People undoubtedly a recipe for chaos. People undoubtedly a recipe for chaos. People pulling in different directions, doing pulling in different directions, doing pulling in different directions, doing what they think is best. some people what they think is best. some people what they think is best. some people like trying to smooth things out only to like trying to smooth things out only to like trying to smooth things out only to have another [ __ ] pop off and do have another [ __ ] pop off and do have another [ __ ] pop off and do something crazy. So, this one feels like something crazy. So, this one feels like something crazy. So, this one feels like it's going to spiral out of control even it's going to spiral out of control even it's going to spiral out of control even more. I mean, it's already out of more. I mean, it's already out of more. I mean, it's already out of control, but spiral out even more before control, but spiral out even more before control, but spiral out even more before we're finally able to get something that we're finally able to get something that we're finally able to get something that resembles order. resembles order. resembles order. >> So, as I was doing research yesterday, I >> So, as I was doing research yesterday, I >> So, as I was doing research yesterday, I was in the deep, dark trenches of was in the deep, dark trenches of was in the deep, dark trenches of Twitter, and I found Iranian Twitter. Twitter, and I found Iranian Twitter. Twitter, and I found Iranian Twitter. And Iranian Twitter is very interesting. And Iranian Twitter is very interesting. And Iranian Twitter is very interesting. I seen this uh I'm not going to call him I seen this uh I'm not going to call him I seen this uh I'm not going to call him a journalist, but somebody who tweets a journalist, but somebody who tweets a journalist, but somebody who tweets live updates. I'll be honest, his bio is live updates. I'll be honest, his bio is live updates. I'll be honest, his bio is completely in Arabic, so who knows. Um, completely in Arabic, so who knows. Um, completely in Arabic, so who knows. Um, but they listed out a timeline that was but they listed out a timeline that was but they listed out a timeline that was very interesting that was gaining steam, very interesting that was gaining steam, very interesting that was gaining steam, and I wanted to kind of run this by you, and I wanted to kind of run this by you, and I wanted to kind of run this by you, see what you thought. And again, this is see what you thought. And again, this is see what you thought. And again, this is 100% from their side. So, I know that 100% from their side. So, I know that 100% from their side. So, I know that there is certain slant to it, but they there is certain slant to it, but they there is certain slant to it, but they chronicled the next 15 days, day by day. chronicled the next 15 days, day by day. chronicled the next 15 days, day by day. Save this page. Tomorrow, April 6, 8 Save this page. Tomorrow, April 6, 8 Save this page. Tomorrow, April 6, 8 p.m., the deadline expires. That's why p.m., the deadline expires. That's why p.m., the deadline expires. That's why people said Trump already accepted, people said Trump already accepted, people said Trump already accepted, >> but this is Yeah, I was going to say >> but this is Yeah, I was going to say >> but this is Yeah, I was going to say this is already off. Yeah, they said this is already off. Yeah, they said this is already off. Yeah, they said Trump already extended it cuz he's in Trump already extended it cuz he's in Trump already extended it cuz he's in Iranian time. So, Tuesday 8:00 p.m. Iranian time. So, Tuesday 8:00 p.m. Iranian time. So, Tuesday 8:00 p.m. That's why Trump had to go back and say That's why Trump had to go back and say That's why Trump had to go back and say Eastern time is what I meant. So, with Eastern time is what I meant. So, with Eastern time is what I meant. So, with that caveat that this is Eastern time, that caveat that this is Eastern time, that caveat that this is Eastern time, um deadlines expires, Iran rejects all um deadlines expires, Iran rejects all um deadlines expires, Iran rejects all agreements and the rejects all agreements and the rejects all agreements and the rejects all agreements and rejects all negotiations. agreements and rejects all negotiations. agreements and rejects all negotiations. Ready, prepared, standing tall. Trump Ready, prepared, standing tall. Trump Ready, prepared, standing tall. Trump extends the deadline twice. No third extends the deadline twice. No third extends the deadline twice. No third extension. Days 2 to 3, 7th to 8th, the extension. Days 2 to 3, 7th to 8th, the extension. Days 2 to 3, 7th to 8th, the United States strikes Iran's power grid. United States strikes Iran's power grid. United States strikes Iran's power grid. Power outages for 80 million homes. Power outages for 80 million homes. Power outages for 80 million homes. Expanded targets power plants, oil Expanded targets power plants, oil Expanded targets power plants, oil wells, Kar Island desalination plants. wells, Kar Island desalination plants. wells, Kar Island desalination plants. Iran retaliates against Saudi Arao, UAE Iran retaliates against Saudi Arao, UAE Iran retaliates against Saudi Arao, UAE refineries, and Kuwaiti infrastructure. refineries, and Kuwaiti infrastructure. refineries, and Kuwaiti infrastructure. Oil prices jump exceed $160. Oil prices jump exceed $160. Oil prices jump exceed $160. >> That all seems reasonable. >> That all seems reasonable. >> That all seems reasonable. >> Oil is at like 115 114 right now for >> Oil is at like 115 114 right now for >> Oil is at like 115 114 right now for context. Um the next four to five days, context. Um the next four to five days, context. Um the next four to five days, Iran targets Raj Torona, the largest oil Iran targets Raj Torona, the largest oil Iran targets Raj Torona, the largest oil port. One strike and the halt of 6.5 port. One strike and the halt of 6.5 port. One strike and the halt of 6.5 million barrels per day in production. million barrels per day in production. million barrels per day in production. Houthis closed the Red Sea which has a Houthis closed the Red Sea which has a Houthis closed the Red Sea which has a closure of two vital passages. Um closure of two vital passages. Um closure of two vital passages. Um historic precedent so the Houthies on historic precedent so the Houthies on historic precedent so the Houthies on the other side can close the Red Sea. the other side can close the Red Sea. the other side can close the Red Sea. The have another straight of hero The have another straight of hero The have another straight of hero situation in a different place. Oil now situation in a different place. Oil now situation in a different place. Oil now jumps up to 200 per oil. Um actual crude jumps up to 200 per oil. Um actual crude jumps up to 200 per oil. Um actual crude exceeds 250 in Asia because Asia's on exceeds 250 in Asia because Asia's on exceeds 250 in Asia because Asia's on the maximum side of it. the maximum side of it. the maximum side of it. >> Yeah. None of this is crazy yet. >> Yeah. None of this is crazy yet. >> Yeah. None of this is crazy yet. >> Um April 11th to 13th oil crisis >> Um April 11th to 13th oil crisis >> Um April 11th to 13th oil crisis strategic reserves empty. Sanctions strategic reserves empty. Sanctions strategic reserves empty. Sanctions relief ends. 10 million barrels per day relief ends. 10 million barrels per day relief ends. 10 million barrels per day vanish. No alternatives. No safety net. vanish. No alternatives. No safety net. vanish. No alternatives. No safety net. Oil hits 250 in America. US officials Oil hits 250 in America. US officials Oil hits 250 in America. US officials are pl already planning for this are pl already planning for this are pl already planning for this scenario. Gas prices hit 10 to12 dollar scenario. Gas prices hit 10 to12 dollar scenario. Gas prices hit 10 to12 dollar nationally. Flights grounded. Trucks nationally. Flights grounded. Trucks nationally. Flights grounded. Trucks halted. Iran launches cyber attacks on halted. Iran launches cyber attacks on halted. Iran launches cyber attacks on US infrastructure. US infrastructure. US infrastructure. >> The 10 to 12 seems like a stretch. I >> The 10 to 12 seems like a stretch. I >> The 10 to 12 seems like a stretch. I feel like something would come in today. feel like something would come in today. feel like something would come in today. >> Yeah. I mean, we're starting to >> Yeah. I mean, we're starting to >> Yeah. I mean, we're starting to exaggerate a little bit here, but exaggerate a little bit here, but exaggerate a little bit here, but >> it's $7 in in California right now at >> it's $7 in in California right now at >> it's $7 in in California right now at 115. I can imagine if it jumps up to 115. I can imagine if it jumps up to 115. I can imagine if it jumps up to 200, one gas station is going to put a 200, one gas station is going to put a 200, one gas station is going to put a 10 in the front. 10 in the front. 10 in the front. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um >> Um >> Um >> it's certainly not implausible. April >> it's certainly not implausible. April >> it's certainly not implausible. April 14th to 17th, a global food crisis ensu 14th to 17th, a global food crisis ensu 14th to 17th, a global food crisis ensu ensues because 30% of fertilizers passed ensues because 30% of fertilizers passed ensues because 30% of fertilizers passed through the trade or most uh through the trade or most uh through the trade or most uh >> this is where he's starting to get >> this is where he's starting to get >> this is where he's starting to get [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] >> Global prices uh >> Global prices uh >> Global prices uh >> the just the reason there is the timing. >> the just the reason there is the timing. >> the just the reason there is the timing. >> So he's absolutely right that if all of >> So he's absolutely right that if all of >> So he's absolutely right that if all of this stuff that he's talking about comes this stuff that he's talking about comes this stuff that he's talking about comes to pass to pass to pass >> um that you will have a problem >> um that you will have a problem >> um that you will have a problem >> down the road, but you're not going to >> down the road, but you're not going to >> down the road, but you're not going to have a food crisis for food that would have a food crisis for food that would have a food crisis for food that would never have been grown yet. This is about never have been grown yet. This is about never have been grown yet. This is about the growing season. Mhm. the growing season. Mhm. the growing season. Mhm. >> So you'd then have a food crisis on the >> So you'd then have a food crisis on the >> So you'd then have a food crisis on the other side of this. So in the fall when other side of this. So in the fall when other side of this. So in the fall when you begin reaping what you swed, that's you begin reaping what you swed, that's you begin reaping what you swed, that's where it's going to be uhoh big time where it's going to be uhoh big time where it's going to be uhoh big time problems. problems. problems. >> Gotcha. Um >> Gotcha. Um >> Gotcha. Um going on the collapse of Asian going on the collapse of Asian going on the collapse of Asian economies, Japan, Korea, and India lose economies, Japan, Korea, and India lose economies, Japan, Korea, and India lose over 50% of energy supplies, global over 50% of energy supplies, global over 50% of energy supplies, global recession, 30% likelihood across recession, 30% likelihood across recession, 30% likelihood across according to Goldman Sachs. But with oil according to Goldman Sachs. But with oil according to Goldman Sachs. But with oil at $300, it's a certainty again. That at $300, it's a certainty again. That at $300, it's a certainty again. That number kind of jumped up again. Um, S&P number kind of jumped up again. Um, S&P number kind of jumped up again. Um, S&P index correction to a crash. index correction to a crash. index correction to a crash. >> 18th to the 20th, ICC investigates war >> 18th to the 20th, ICC investigates war >> 18th to the 20th, ICC investigates war crimes. Evidence documented on video. crimes. Evidence documented on video. crimes. Evidence documented on video. Iran launches nuclear program. Timeline Iran launches nuclear program. Timeline Iran launches nuclear program. Timeline two weeks to four weeks. No incentive two weeks to four weeks. No incentive two weeks to four weeks. No incentive for restraint. 80 million people. for restraint. 80 million people. for restraint. 80 million people. >> Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Now >> Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Now >> Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Now we're Now we're like [laughter] we're Now we're like [laughter] we're Now we're like [laughter] completely diverging from reality. completely diverging from reality. completely diverging from reality. >> Yeah. After the 80 million people with >> Yeah. After the 80 million people with >> Yeah. After the 80 million people with no electricity, no water, no food no electricity, no water, no food no electricity, no water, no food supply, no bridges, supply, no bridges, supply, no bridges, >> but are somehow still building a nuclear >> but are somehow still building a nuclear >> but are somehow still building a nuclear power plant. What? Hey, I mean, Cuba's power plant. What? Hey, I mean, Cuba's power plant. What? Hey, I mean, Cuba's cut off, but the uh military elite still cut off, but the uh military elite still cut off, but the uh military elite still has power in lights and stakes. So, has power in lights and stakes. So, has power in lights and stakes. So, >> yes, >> yes, >> yes, >> the IRGC is not gonna be in the dark. Uh >> the IRGC is not gonna be in the dark. Uh >> the IRGC is not gonna be in the dark. Uh uh. uh. uh. >> Yeah. But will they have enough power to >> Yeah. But will they have enough power to >> Yeah. But will they have enough power to run a nuclear program? No. And PS. Uh I run a nuclear program? No. And PS. Uh I run a nuclear program? No. And PS. Uh I don't think Iran feels any sense of don't think Iran feels any sense of don't think Iran feels any sense of restraint right now, which is why they restraint right now, which is why they restraint right now, which is why they enriched the 60%. But anyway, so these enriched the 60%. But anyway, so these enriched the 60%. But anyway, so these guys have a slant. We're well aware. guys have a slant. We're well aware. guys have a slant. We're well aware. Keep trying. Keep trying. Keep trying. >> Yeah. Yeah. Again. Um and then lastly, >> Yeah. Yeah. Again. Um and then lastly, >> Yeah. Yeah. Again. Um and then lastly, uh refugee crisis far exceeding Syria uh refugee crisis far exceeding Syria uh refugee crisis far exceeding Syria begins. political expulsion in US begins. political expulsion in US begins. political expulsion in US midterms, $15 gas prices, war crimes midterms, $15 gas prices, war crimes midterms, $15 gas prices, war crimes probe. probe. probe. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Um >> Um >> Um >> that that's for sure. >> that that's for sure. >> that that's for sure. >> So he's like he ends it with save this >> So he's like he ends it with save this >> So he's like he ends it with save this page, see you on April 20th and we'll page, see you on April 20th and we'll page, see you on April 20th and we'll see how it pans out. But see how it pans out. But see how it pans out. But >> yeah, it's interesting the whole idea of >> yeah, it's interesting the whole idea of >> yeah, it's interesting the whole idea of save this page like you've got huge save this page like you've got huge save this page like you've got huge upside and very little downside. Like if upside and very little downside. Like if upside and very little downside. Like if you miss like you just sweep it under you miss like you just sweep it under you miss like you just sweep it under the rug and move on. A couple people the rug and move on. A couple people the rug and move on. A couple people will chirp at you like, "Oh, but you will chirp at you like, "Oh, but you will chirp at you like, "Oh, but you were wrong about this." But if you hit, were wrong about this." But if you hit, were wrong about this." But if you hit, oh man, it's like you get to ride that oh man, it's like you get to ride that oh man, it's like you get to ride that forever. So just you can mark this page. forever. So just you can mark this page. forever. So just you can mark this page. You're going to see this strategy all You're going to see this strategy all You're going to see this strategy all the time on social media because people the time on social media because people the time on social media because people understand that it has such a wildly understand that it has such a wildly understand that it has such a wildly disproportionate positive outcome if disproportionate positive outcome if disproportionate positive outcome if they hit once or twice and nobody they hit once or twice and nobody they hit once or twice and nobody remembers all the times that you called remembers all the times that you called remembers all the times that you called something and it failed. So uh yeah, something and it failed. So uh yeah, something and it failed. So uh yeah, you're just being spun all the time, all you're just being spun all the time, all you're just being spun all the time, all the time. the time. the time. >> Taking his timeline away from it for a >> Taking his timeline away from it for a >> Taking his timeline away from it for a second though, he did connect a lot of second though, he did connect a lot of second though, he did connect a lot of dots that I don't think we're thinking dots that I don't think we're thinking dots that I don't think we're thinking about right now. Right now we're about right now. Right now we're about right now. Right now we're thinking Iran bad, nuclear bomb, we're thinking Iran bad, nuclear bomb, we're thinking Iran bad, nuclear bomb, we're winning. That's it. But we're not seeing winning. That's it. But we're not seeing winning. That's it. But we're not seeing how all the global economies are how all the global economies are how all the global economies are connected to the strait and how this can connected to the strait and how this can connected to the strait and how this can impact them second and third order impact them second and third order impact them second and third order consequences consequences consequences >> directionally. I know that he was off, >> directionally. I know that he was off, >> directionally. I know that he was off, but is there something that you gleaned but is there something that you gleaned but is there something that you gleaned from this as like, hey, this is from this as like, hey, this is from this as like, hey, this is something that America needs to something that America needs to something that America needs to >> Yeah. I'm going to say he's like 80% >> Yeah. I'm going to say he's like 80% >> Yeah. I'm going to say he's like 80% >> accurate. He doesn't really start >> accurate. He doesn't really start >> accurate. He doesn't really start getting unhinged until he starts going, getting unhinged until he starts going, getting unhinged until he starts going, we're not going to have any power, but we're not going to have any power, but we're not going to have any power, but we're still going to like finally pursue we're still going to like finally pursue we're still going to like finally pursue our nuclear ambitions. That's like, hold our nuclear ambitions. That's like, hold our nuclear ambitions. That's like, hold on, on, on, >> you guys have been pursuing your nuclear >> you guys have been pursuing your nuclear >> you guys have been pursuing your nuclear ambitions. that's why you have 60% ambitions. that's why you have 60% ambitions. that's why you have 60% enriched uranium which according to them enriched uranium which according to them enriched uranium which according to them is true. Uh so it's like all right is true. Uh so it's like all right is true. Uh so it's like all right you've already been going there. If you've already been going there. If you've already been going there. If we're destroying all your infrastructure we're destroying all your infrastructure we're destroying all your infrastructure you guys will be set back dramatically. you guys will be set back dramatically. you guys will be set back dramatically. It's why it matters. So the question is It's why it matters. So the question is It's why it matters. So the question is will they come out in 3 to 5 years on will they come out in 3 to 5 years on will they come out in 3 to 5 years on the other side of this more militant the other side of this more militant the other side of this more militant more terroristic? That's possible. And more terroristic? That's possible. And more terroristic? That's possible. And that's where it's like history is going that's where it's like history is going that's where it's like history is going to judge Trump, all of us for that to judge Trump, all of us for that to judge Trump, all of us for that matter, matter, matter, >> in terms of whether this ended up being >> in terms of whether this ended up being >> in terms of whether this ended up being smart or bad. So a lot of things that smart or bad. So a lot of things that smart or bad. So a lot of things that look um stupid in the moment end up look um stupid in the moment end up look um stupid in the moment end up being critically important and a lot of being critically important and a lot of being critically important and a lot of things that look uh brilliant in the things that look uh brilliant in the things that look uh brilliant in the moment end up looking really stupid. So moment end up looking really stupid. So moment end up looking really stupid. So it's very difficult to know which way it's very difficult to know which way it's very difficult to know which way this is going to bounce. Right now this this is going to bounce. Right now this this is going to bounce. Right now this is uh just remember the idea of is uh just remember the idea of is uh just remember the idea of consequentialism. A lot of how we view consequentialism. A lot of how we view consequentialism. A lot of how we view something over time comes down to how it something over time comes down to how it something over time comes down to how it worked out. So the US has been an worked out. So the US has been an worked out. So the US has been an incredible force for good. This is why incredible force for good. This is why incredible force for good. This is why the 20th century was absolutely the 20th century was absolutely the 20th century was absolutely horrific. Just an absolute bloodbath horrific. Just an absolute bloodbath horrific. Just an absolute bloodbath everywhere except in the West where post everywhere except in the West where post everywhere except in the West where post World War II it was just an unending World War II it was just an unending World War II it was just an unending string of winds. And that was largely string of winds. And that was largely string of winds. And that was largely predicated on the US patrolling the predicated on the US patrolling the predicated on the US patrolling the seas, controlling the international seas, controlling the international seas, controlling the international economy, allowing for globalism to take economy, allowing for globalism to take economy, allowing for globalism to take place. And while it worked, it worked place. And while it worked, it worked place. And while it worked, it worked extraordinarily well, ex unprecedentedly extraordinarily well, ex unprecedentedly extraordinarily well, ex unprecedentedly well. And even though in the end it well. And even though in the end it well. And even though in the end it ended up being a problem, we cannot lose ended up being a problem, we cannot lose ended up being a problem, we cannot lose sight of how glorious that run was. So sight of how glorious that run was. So sight of how glorious that run was. So that all of that was absolutely that all of that was absolutely that all of that was absolutely incredible. And now what's happening is incredible. And now what's happening is incredible. And now what's happening is unknown. So is this going to be a good unknown. So is this going to be a good unknown. So is this going to be a good thing or a bad thing? If you had asked thing or a bad thing? If you had asked thing or a bad thing? If you had asked me as Pulk was stealing land from the me as Pulk was stealing land from the me as Pulk was stealing land from the Mexicans if that was a good thing or a Mexicans if that was a good thing or a Mexicans if that was a good thing or a bad thing, I'd be like, "That's a bad bad thing, I'd be like, "That's a bad bad thing, I'd be like, "That's a bad thing." But it ended up being incredible thing." But it ended up being incredible thing." But it ended up being incredible for America. America ended up being for America. America ended up being for America. America ended up being incredible for the world. Same thing if incredible for the world. Same thing if incredible for the world. Same thing if you'd asked me about the Native you'd asked me about the Native you'd asked me about the Native Americans. Absolute tragedy of untold Americans. Absolute tragedy of untold Americans. Absolute tragedy of untold proportions. But in the end, America has proportions. But in the end, America has proportions. But in the end, America has been incredible for the world. And so, h been incredible for the world. And so, h been incredible for the world. And so, h it's one of those if you don't get a it's one of those if you don't get a it's one of those if you don't get a positive outcome, then everybody is positive outcome, then everybody is positive outcome, then everybody is going to go, okay, this was the absolute going to go, okay, this was the absolute going to go, okay, this was the absolute most horrific thing in the world, me most horrific thing in the world, me most horrific thing in the world, me included. But if you end up with a good included. But if you end up with a good included. But if you end up with a good outcome, which I outlaid at the outcome, which I outlaid at the outcome, which I outlaid at the beginning of the show, an economically beginning of the show, an economically beginning of the show, an economically prosperous Middle East that is investing prosperous Middle East that is investing prosperous Middle East that is investing heavily in the West, the West refineses heavily in the West, the West refineses heavily in the West, the West refineses their value system and actually stands their value system and actually stands their value system and actually stands up for enlightenment values. We continue up for enlightenment values. We continue up for enlightenment values. We continue to innovate. In fact, I dropped into the to innovate. In fact, I dropped into the to innovate. In fact, I dropped into the spreadsheet. Let me just show you. I was spreadsheet. Let me just show you. I was spreadsheet. Let me just show you. I was going to save this for economic talk, going to save this for economic talk, going to save this for economic talk, but let me just show you what but let me just show you what but let me just show you what enlightenment values brings you um in enlightenment values brings you um in enlightenment values brings you um in terms of life expectancy. So, if you terms of life expectancy. So, if you terms of life expectancy. So, if you have your phone, take a look at this. have your phone, take a look at this. have your phone, take a look at this. This is a life expectancy chart. You see This is a life expectancy chart. You see This is a life expectancy chart. You see basically life expectancy holding steady basically life expectancy holding steady basically life expectancy holding steady at a much uh depressed number until the at a much uh depressed number until the at a much uh depressed number until the end of socialism. And then in every end of socialism. And then in every end of socialism. And then in every country where you ended socialism, you country where you ended socialism, you country where you ended socialism, you then go on a historic run of increasing then go on a historic run of increasing then go on a historic run of increasing the average life expectancy. And the the average life expectancy. And the the average life expectancy. And the answer to why is innovation and answer to why is innovation and answer to why is innovation and innovation is brought to you by the free innovation is brought to you by the free innovation is brought to you by the free market because it is people being market because it is people being market because it is people being selfish saying how do I get rich and selfish saying how do I get rich and selfish saying how do I get rich and when the answer is create something of when the answer is create something of when the answer is create something of value that the world wants more than value that the world wants more than value that the world wants more than they want their money uh then people do they want their money uh then people do they want their money uh then people do that thing and they have to innovate to that thing and they have to innovate to that thing and they have to innovate to beat the other people that are currently beat the other people that are currently beat the other people that are currently doing it. And so you get this innovation doing it. And so you get this innovation doing it. And so you get this innovation flywheel which has insane positive flywheel which has insane positive flywheel which has insane positive consequences. Uh and so if on the other consequences. Uh and so if on the other consequences. Uh and so if on the other side of this we have these kind of side of this we have these kind of side of this we have these kind of insane positive consequences of the west insane positive consequences of the west insane positive consequences of the west refining their enlightenment values refining their enlightenment values refining their enlightenment values pairing up with the Middle East which is pairing up with the Middle East which is pairing up with the Middle East which is transitioning from an oil economy into transitioning from an oil economy into transitioning from an oil economy into an investment economy. Those investment an investment economy. Those investment an investment economy. Those investment dollars go into things like AI and we dollars go into things like AI and we dollars go into things like AI and we have this age of abundance. It'll be have this age of abundance. It'll be have this age of abundance. It'll be incredible and hey rough you know start incredible and hey rough you know start incredible and hey rough you know start to all of this but we got there in the to all of this but we got there in the to all of this but we got there in the end amazing. If it's just global chaos, end amazing. If it's just global chaos, end amazing. If it's just global chaos, then it will be looked upon as one of then it will be looked upon as one of then it will be looked upon as one of the greatest tragedies the greatest tragedies the greatest tragedies uh of the modern era. So, we'll see. >> Um, no comment on this chart cuz I think >> Um, no comment on this chart cuz I think it's a bit statistically slantic if you it's a bit statistically slantic if you it's a bit statistically slantic if you look at the timelines on the bottom, but look at the timelines on the bottom, but look at the timelines on the bottom, but I get directly I get directly I get directly >> why that's the Berlin Wall comes down >> why that's the Berlin Wall comes down >> why that's the Berlin Wall comes down and then life expectancy jumps. What do and then life expectancy jumps. What do and then life expectancy jumps. What do you call the [ __ ] on? um from 1960 you call the [ __ ] on? um from 1960 you call the [ __ ] on? um from 1960 to 1990 that's 30 years it goes from 66 to 1990 that's 30 years it goes from 66 to 1990 that's 30 years it goes from 66 to I'm looking specifically at like to I'm looking specifically at like to I'm looking specifically at like Romania for example it goes from 66 to Romania for example it goes from 66 to Romania for example it goes from 66 to 70 right okay 70 right okay 70 right okay >> and then we go from 1990 to 2020 we can >> and then we go from 1990 to 2020 we can >> and then we go from 1990 to 2020 we can say another 30 years it goes from 70 to say another 30 years it goes from 70 to say another 30 years it goes from 70 to 76 so it went up four up six 76 so it went up four up six 76 so it went up four up six >> so wait hold on you're looking at this >> so wait hold on you're looking at this >> so wait hold on you're looking at this chart right here and saying okay Romania chart right here and saying okay Romania chart right here and saying okay Romania post World War II was in absolute dire post World War II was in absolute dire post World War II was in absolute dire straits under communism, by the way. Uh straits under communism, by the way. Uh straits under communism, by the way. Uh but somehow because they were still but somehow because they were still but somehow because they were still under communism, they managed to go from under communism, they managed to go from under communism, they managed to go from below 66 years to a scathingly terrible below 66 years to a scathingly terrible below 66 years to a scathingly terrible 68 years. Um 68 years. Um 68 years. Um >> they went to 70 by the end. >> they went to 70 by the end. >> they went to 70 by the end. >> No, they're below 70. So 68 69 >> No, they're below 70. So 68 69 >> No, they're below 70. So 68 69 >> 68 is right here. So if you're Okay, >> 68 is right here. So if you're Okay, >> 68 is right here. So if you're Okay, fair. fair. fair. >> Yeah. So that that's what I mean the >> Yeah. So that that's what I mean the >> Yeah. So that that's what I mean the >> Okay, hold on then. Let's let's do that. >> Okay, hold on then. Let's let's do that. >> Okay, hold on then. Let's let's do that. So you go from whatever slightly below So you go from whatever slightly below So you go from whatever slightly below 66, so 65 and change to 70 66, so 65 and change to 70 66, so 65 and change to 70 >> 4 and a2 >> 4 and a2 >> 4 and a2 >> which yes, but is god awful like >> which yes, but is god awful like >> which yes, but is god awful like absolutely catastrophically bad. And absolutely catastrophically bad. And absolutely catastrophically bad. And then nobody has a run like they do from then nobody has a run like they do from then nobody has a run like they do from like 20 like 20 like 20 2002 to uh 2020. I mean just absolutely 2002 to uh 2020. I mean just absolutely 2002 to uh 2020. I mean just absolutely almost a straight line up. How are we almost a straight line up. How are we almost a straight line up. How are we not like that is the dopest [ __ ] ever? not like that is the dopest [ __ ] ever? not like that is the dopest [ __ ] ever? That is a growth rate of double at least That is a growth rate of double at least That is a growth rate of double at least what they did under communism. what they did under communism. what they did under communism. >> 4.5 to about six when you get to 70 and >> 4.5 to about six when you get to 70 and >> 4.5 to about six when you get to 70 and then you go to 76. then you go to 76. then you go to 76. >> But but even so accepting like the the >> But but even so accepting like the the >> But but even so accepting like the the scale of this chart is manipulative even scale of this chart is manipulative even scale of this chart is manipulative even accepting that just looking at how much accepting that just looking at how much accepting that just looking at how much life expectancy they added. life expectancy they added. life expectancy they added. >> So four years in change versus what? Six >> So four years in change versus what? Six >> So four years in change versus what? Six and a half years. and a half years. and a half years. >> Six years and change. So >> Six years and change. So >> Six years and change. So that like 150% additional growth. that like 150% additional growth. that like 150% additional growth. >> I'm I'm all for more life. More life. No >> I'm I'm all for more life. More life. No >> I'm I'm all for more life. More life. No socialism. More life. socialism. More life. socialism. More life. >> But you're you look at this and feel >> But you're you look at this and feel >> But you're you look at this and feel like I'm being manipulated like I'm being manipulated like I'm being manipulated >> cuz how the scale of the chart is at the >> cuz how the scale of the chart is at the >> cuz how the scale of the chart is at the bottom. bottom. bottom. >> Wow. That's wild to me. Even just >> Wow. That's wild to me. Even just >> Wow. That's wild to me. Even just visually you look at they were basically visually you look at they were basically visually you look at they were basically you're selecting the only one of them you're selecting the only one of them you're selecting the only one of them that had like a weird blip under that had like a weird blip under that had like a weird blip under communism. All the rest are basically communism. All the rest are basically communism. All the rest are basically flat lines. And then literally the year flat lines. And then literally the year flat lines. And then literally the year that that ends, you start this climb that that ends, you start this climb that that ends, you start this climb that is absolutely that is absolutely that is absolutely >> they all increase all they all increase. >> they all increase all they all increase. >> they all increase all they all increase. >> They all increase dramatically. >> They all increase dramatically. >> They all increase dramatically. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. So we end socialism and life >> Okay. So we end socialism and life >> Okay. So we end socialism and life expectancy increases dramatically. That expectancy increases dramatically. That expectancy increases dramatically. That seems like a good headline to me. seems like a good headline to me. seems like a good headline to me. >> Dramatically. >> Dramatically. >> Dramatically. >> Okay. But so if you had to give me in a >> Okay. But so if you had to give me in a >> Okay. But so if you had to give me in a sentence what you want me to take away, sentence what you want me to take away, sentence what you want me to take away, what is it? what is it? what is it? >> Um that socialism incre uh capitalism >> Um that socialism incre uh capitalism >> Um that socialism incre uh capitalism increased life expenses dramatically. increased life expenses dramatically. increased life expenses dramatically. >> Perfectly. But there's something in >> Perfectly. But there's something in >> Perfectly. But there's something in [laughter] anybody looking at their [laughter] anybody looking at their [laughter] anybody looking at their phones will know there's something in phones will know there's something in phones will know there's something in his take. Something is hiding in this his take. Something is hiding in this his take. Something is hiding in this still. still. still. >> Look at the chart. Uh I want to go I >> Look at the chart. Uh I want to go I >> Look at the chart. Uh I want to go I want to jump to the uh Candace Owens want to jump to the uh Candace Owens want to jump to the uh Candace Owens Brett Weinstein because this seems like Brett Weinstein because this seems like Brett Weinstein because this seems like a download of a talking point cuz I a download of a talking point cuz I a download of a talking point cuz I never seen two people say mad king about never seen two people say mad king about never seen two people say mad king about Donald Trump in the same time in the Donald Trump in the same time in the Donald Trump in the same time in the same weekend. Um Candace Owens first same weekend. Um Candace Owens first same weekend. Um Candace Owens first tweet. This is a satanic administration. tweet. This is a satanic administration. tweet. This is a satanic administration. We all realize that satanic Zionist We all realize that satanic Zionist We all realize that satanic Zionist occupy the White House and Kronish needs occupy the White House and Kronish needs occupy the White House and Kronish needs a move to have the mad king Trump a move to have the mad king Trump a move to have the mad king Trump removed. removed. removed. >> Hold on. Can't you can't gloss past >> Hold on. Can't you can't gloss past >> Hold on. Can't you can't gloss past that. Uh, the White House and Congress that. Uh, the White House and Congress that. Uh, the White House and Congress need to move to have the mad King Trump need to move to have the mad King Trump need to move to have the mad King Trump removed. Okay. Yep. removed. Okay. Yep. removed. Okay. Yep. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Keep going. >> Keep going. >> Keep going. >> All of our lives may depend upon other >> All of our lives may depend upon other >> All of our lives may depend upon other countries realizing that Trump is deeply countries realizing that Trump is deeply countries realizing that Trump is deeply unwell and surrounded by religious unwell and surrounded by religious unwell and surrounded by religious fanatics who have convinced him that he fanatics who have convinced him that he fanatics who have convinced him that he is a messiah. We are in uncharted is a messiah. We are in uncharted is a messiah. We are in uncharted territory. Leaders worldwide need to act territory. Leaders worldwide need to act territory. Leaders worldwide need to act accordingly. accordingly. accordingly. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Now, let's jump over to Brett. >> Now, let's jump over to Brett. >> Now, let's jump over to Brett. >> Trump, who I advocated for in 2024, >> Trump, who I advocated for in 2024, >> Trump, who I advocated for in 2024, thank you for taking accountability on thank you for taking accountability on thank you for taking accountability on that. Has gone full mad king. In that. Has gone full mad king. In that. Has gone full mad king. In considering my responsibility, I ask you considering my responsibility, I ask you considering my responsibility, I ask you to remember the case I made rested on to remember the case I made rested on to remember the case I made rested on the fact that Biden Harrison were the fact that Biden Harrison were the fact that Biden Harrison were figureheads shielding a cabal that figureheads shielding a cabal that figureheads shielding a cabal that couldn't be held to account whereas couldn't be held to account whereas couldn't be held to account whereas Trump could and we must. So now these Trump could and we must. So now these Trump could and we must. So now these are two separate commentators, I'll call are two separate commentators, I'll call are two separate commentators, I'll call them, who are now calling Trump a mad them, who are now calling Trump a mad them, who are now calling Trump a mad king and there needs to be some type of king and there needs to be some type of king and there needs to be some type of larger intervention. Um, is this a larger intervention. Um, is this a larger intervention. Um, is this a coordinated effort? Did this strike you coordinated effort? Did this strike you coordinated effort? Did this strike you as weird? as weird? as weird? >> Not in the slightest. Okay. >> Not in the slightest. Okay. >> Not in the slightest. Okay. >> So, first of all, man, nobody in at the >> So, first of all, man, nobody in at the >> So, first of all, man, nobody in at the end of the road is like, end of the road is like, end of the road is like, >> "Hey, they're above reproach and they >> "Hey, they're above reproach and they >> "Hey, they're above reproach and they could never be flawed." So, I'm sure could never be flawed." So, I'm sure could never be flawed." So, I'm sure Brett could there's something that could Brett could there's something that could Brett could there's something that could turn his head and make him uh deny his turn his head and make him uh deny his turn his head and make him uh deny his principles. But when you look at Brett's principles. But when you look at Brett's principles. But when you look at Brett's history of taking um personal losses, history of taking um personal losses, history of taking um personal losses, extreme losses to stand up for what he extreme losses to stand up for what he extreme losses to stand up for what he believes is right. Now, he may not believes is right. Now, he may not believes is right. Now, he may not always believe the thing that other always believe the thing that other always believe the thing that other people believe is right. Um, he's done people believe is right. Um, he's done people believe is right. Um, he's done that. So, I have no reason to believe that. So, I have no reason to believe that. So, I have no reason to believe that Brett is saying something that he that Brett is saying something that he that Brett is saying something that he believes to be untrue. So, I think he believes to be untrue. So, I think he believes to be untrue. So, I think he believes this to be true. Um, Candace believes this to be true. Um, Candace believes this to be true. Um, Candace Owens, shockingly, I actually think is Owens, shockingly, I actually think is Owens, shockingly, I actually think is also saying what she believes to be also saying what she believes to be also saying what she believes to be true. She has just got a way more true. She has just got a way more true. She has just got a way more bombastic, bombastic, bombastic, outlandish outlandish outlandish mental map of the world. That may be the mental map of the world. That may be the mental map of the world. That may be the most generous way to say that. most generous way to say that. most generous way to say that. >> So, I don't think she's lying. I think >> So, I don't think she's lying. I think >> So, I don't think she's lying. I think she might be caught up in the feedback she might be caught up in the feedback she might be caught up in the feedback loop of when I say this thing, my loop of when I say this thing, my loop of when I say this thing, my audience really likes it, and so maybe I audience really likes it, and so maybe I audience really likes it, and so maybe I start saying a bit more of that thing start saying a bit more of that thing start saying a bit more of that thing because I'm really feeling something. because I'm really feeling something. because I'm really feeling something. Um, to me, I anchor always and forever Um, to me, I anchor always and forever Um, to me, I anchor always and forever around Candace. when she feels around Candace. when she feels around Candace. when she feels something, she believes that's an something, she believes that's an something, she believes that's an indicator of truth, which is so crazy to indicator of truth, which is so crazy to indicator of truth, which is so crazy to me. Uh, so that's completely anathema to me. Uh, so that's completely anathema to me. Uh, so that's completely anathema to my experience in the world. Um, but no, my experience in the world. Um, but no, my experience in the world. Um, but no, I don't think there is a coordinated I don't think there is a coordinated I don't think there is a coordinated messaging campaign going out or messaging campaign going out or messaging campaign going out or anything. I think Trump is acting in a anything. I think Trump is acting in a anything. I think Trump is acting in a manner that makes it very easy to go, manner that makes it very easy to go, manner that makes it very easy to go, "Oh, yeah, this is a mad king. This is "Oh, yeah, this is a mad king. This is "Oh, yeah, this is a mad king. This is somebody who is just going completely somebody who is just going completely somebody who is just going completely rogue. They think it's the right thing rogue. They think it's the right thing rogue. They think it's the right thing to do." And so, they're doing it. And to do." And so, they're doing it. And to do." And so, they're doing it. And the thing is, history is replete with the thing is, history is replete with the thing is, history is replete with people like this. Um, this is where, people like this. Um, this is where, people like this. Um, this is where, man, do I want people to really look man, do I want people to really look man, do I want people to really look into PULK a little bit more because into PULK a little bit more because into PULK a little bit more because we've had this quote unquote Mad King we've had this quote unquote Mad King we've had this quote unquote Mad King thing before where our own military was thing before where our own military was thing before where our own military was saying um what he's doing to the saying um what he's doing to the saying um what he's doing to the Mexicans is um they didn't have the Mexicans is um they didn't have the Mexicans is um they didn't have the concept of war crimes, but like that concept of war crimes, but like that concept of war crimes, but like that would have been I think the the cry is would have been I think the the cry is would have been I think the the cry is this is immoral. It's disgusting. um this is immoral. It's disgusting. um this is immoral. It's disgusting. um he's gone in and violated their he's gone in and violated their he's gone in and violated their sovereignty because he could. He knew sovereignty because he could. He knew sovereignty because he could. He knew that we were militarily stronger and so that we were militarily stronger and so that we were militarily stronger and so he's just taking this land. he's just taking this land. he's just taking this land. >> And they were like, "We'll never be able >> And they were like, "We'll never be able >> And they were like, "We'll never be able to wash the blood off of our hands from to wash the blood off of our hands from to wash the blood off of our hands from this crime that is so great." this crime that is so great." this crime that is so great." >> And now none of us think about it. We're >> And now none of us think about it. We're >> And now none of us think about it. We're just like, "Yeah, America from sea to just like, "Yeah, America from sea to just like, "Yeah, America from sea to shining sea, baby. It is what it is." So shining sea, baby. It is what it is." So shining sea, baby. It is what it is." So I would understand if people at the time I would understand if people at the time I would understand if people at the time had called Pulk a mad king. And by the had called Pulk a mad king. And by the had called Pulk a mad king. And by the way, when he finished his one term, way, when he finished his one term, way, when he finished his one term, which he said, "I'm only going to run which he said, "I'm only going to run which he said, "I'm only going to run for one term," he the sort of romantic for one term," he the sort of romantic for one term," he the sort of romantic way to tell the story is he worked way to tell the story is he worked way to tell the story is he worked himself to death on behalf of the himself to death on behalf of the himself to death on behalf of the American people. So he saw all of it American people. So he saw all of it American people. So he saw all of it through and like three months after the through and like three months after the through and like three months after the end of his term, he died. end of his term, he died. end of his term, he died. >> It's so crazy. >> It's so crazy. >> It's so crazy. >> I'm over it. Listen. >> I'm over it. Listen. >> I'm over it. Listen. >> Yeah. So, um, yeah, I get it. And look, >> Yeah. So, um, yeah, I get it. And look, >> Yeah. So, um, yeah, I get it. And look, I think that this is a good thing. I I think that this is a good thing. I I think that this is a good thing. I think you want a democracy where people think you want a democracy where people think you want a democracy where people are able to say, um, I think this are able to say, um, I think this are able to say, um, I think this behavior has now reached that level. behavior has now reached that level. behavior has now reached that level. Like I think Candace I read Candace's Like I think Candace I read Candace's Like I think Candace I read Candace's tweet when she says she's being careful tweet when she says she's being careful tweet when she says she's being careful in her wording but uh I think that in her wording but uh I think that in her wording but uh I think that he has become a mad king and new he has become a mad king and new he has become a mad king and new paragraph admittedly but the paragraph admittedly but the paragraph admittedly but the international the countries international the countries international the countries internationally need to act accordingly. internationally need to act accordingly. internationally need to act accordingly. So in the same tweet where you're saying So in the same tweet where you're saying So in the same tweet where you're saying this guy has to get out of office and this guy has to get out of office and this guy has to get out of office and then international the international then international the international then international the international community needs to recognize he's unwell community needs to recognize he's unwell community needs to recognize he's unwell and act accordingly. It's like m So and act accordingly. It's like m So and act accordingly. It's like m So that's somebody who wants America to that's somebody who wants America to that's somebody who wants America to lose under the current leadership. And I lose under the current leadership. And I lose under the current leadership. And I feel the same way about people who want feel the same way about people who want feel the same way about people who want for the downfall of our current for the downfall of our current for the downfall of our current leadership as I did when people wanted leadership as I did when people wanted leadership as I did when people wanted Biden to have a downfall. It's like what Biden to have a downfall. It's like what Biden to have a downfall. It's like what the [ __ ] are you talking about? Like the [ __ ] are you talking about? Like the [ __ ] are you talking about? Like this is still America, man. Uh so don't this is still America, man. Uh so don't this is still America, man. Uh so don't love that. But she has every right to love that. But she has every right to love that. But she has every right to say it. And so I've got no Are we say it. And so I've got no Are we say it. And so I've got no Are we entering into like we can't criticize entering into like we can't criticize entering into like we can't criticize Trump? If we criticize Trump, we Trump? If we criticize Trump, we Trump? If we criticize Trump, we criticize America. criticize America. criticize America. >> I certainly hope not. People should a >> I certainly hope not. People should a >> I certainly hope not. People should a you should be able to criticize America. you should be able to criticize America. you should be able to criticize America. Criticize America. Criticize America. Criticize America. >> But to your point, you said like I read >> But to your point, you said like I read >> But to your point, you said like I read Ken's tweet like they she wants Trump Ken's tweet like they she wants Trump Ken's tweet like they she wants Trump out of there. out of there. out of there. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> But you think that that means America >> But you think that that means America >> But you think that that means America loses. loses. loses. >> She Yes. I think aggressively she is >> She Yes. I think aggressively she is >> She Yes. I think aggressively she is calling for the international community calling for the international community calling for the international community to either most generous read alienate to either most generous read alienate to either most generous read alienate America. Would you go that far America. Would you go that far America. Would you go that far >> until Trump is like situ until we figure >> until Trump is like situ until we figure >> until Trump is like situ until we figure out what the White House situation? is out what the White House situation? is out what the White House situation? is deeply unwell and they should act deeply unwell and they should act deeply unwell and they should act accordingly. The most generous read of accordingly. The most generous read of accordingly. The most generous read of that would be yes, keep doing what that would be yes, keep doing what that would be yes, keep doing what you're doing, alienate America, keep you're doing, alienate America, keep you're doing, alienate America, keep your distance. Um, and that is not your distance. Um, and that is not your distance. Um, and that is not cheering for American supremacy, cheering for American supremacy, cheering for American supremacy, dominance. Um, which I'm sure she would dominance. Um, which I'm sure she would dominance. Um, which I'm sure she would say, "Yeah, I don't want America to be say, "Yeah, I don't want America to be say, "Yeah, I don't want America to be in that position." Okay. I I just in that position." Okay. I I just in that position." Okay. I I just violently disagree. violently disagree. violently disagree. >> Got it. I took that a little bit >> Got it. I took that a little bit >> Got it. I took that a little bit differently as like Trump is toxic right differently as like Trump is toxic right differently as like Trump is toxic right now. Let us figure this thing out. It's now. Let us figure this thing out. It's now. Let us figure this thing out. It's kind of like I need some time. It's not kind of like I need some time. It's not kind of like I need some time. It's not me, it's you. Um, but interesting. Uh, me, it's you. Um, but interesting. Uh, me, it's you. Um, but interesting. Uh, Ann Coulter was another one that made a Ann Coulter was another one that made a Ann Coulter was another one that made a really good point and I was arguing with really good point and I was arguing with really good point and I was arguing with somebody in the chat. I forgot who it somebody in the chat. I forgot who it somebody in the chat. I forgot who it was last week when they were talking was last week when they were talking was last week when they were talking about California fraud and the fraud about California fraud and the fraud about California fraud and the fraud thing and they were like, "See, this is thing and they were like, "See, this is thing and they were like, "See, this is all fake. Like, we're" and I was like, all fake. Like, we're" and I was like, all fake. Like, we're" and I was like, "Hey guys, there's actual things that we "Hey guys, there's actual things that we "Hey guys, there's actual things that we need to be mad about. There's actual need to be mad about. There's actual need to be mad about. There's actual things that we need to fight and have things that we need to fight and have things that we need to fight and have legal teams around. There's actual lies legal teams around. There's actual lies legal teams around. There's actual lies we need to call out." But when you see a we need to call out." But when you see a we need to call out." But when you see a fact that you don't like and you want to fact that you don't like and you want to fact that you don't like and you want to double down on that, you open up double down on that, you open up double down on that, you open up opportunities for actual fraud and opportunities for actual fraud and opportunities for actual fraud and actual crimes to go unchecked because actual crimes to go unchecked because actual crimes to go unchecked because you're you're you're spinning all your you're you're you're spinning all your you're you're you're spinning all your wheels valid like try to invalidate wheels valid like try to invalidate wheels valid like try to invalidate something that's actually true. And then something that's actually true. And then something that's actually true. And then Calter kind of articulated that way Calter kind of articulated that way Calter kind of articulated that way better by saying, I really wish legal better by saying, I really wish legal better by saying, I really wish legal experts hadn't scream bloody murder at experts hadn't scream bloody murder at experts hadn't scream bloody murder at every little thing Trump did so they every little thing Trump did so they every little thing Trump did so they could speak with authority now that he's could speak with authority now that he's could speak with authority now that he's actually committing war crimes. So actually committing war crimes. So actually committing war crimes. So saying that he's the worst president saying that he's the worst president saying that he's the worst president ever and he did all these things just ever and he did all these things just ever and he did all these things just because he said something you don't because he said something you don't because he said something you don't like. now that he's actually bombing a like. now that he's actually bombing a like. now that he's actually bombing a territory that you don't like and you're territory that you don't like and you're territory that you don't like and you're saying it it doesn't matter because he saying it it doesn't matter because he saying it it doesn't matter because he used you already called him a Nazi for used you already called him a Nazi for used you already called him a Nazi for wearing a hat now you can't call him a wearing a hat now you can't call him a wearing a hat now you can't call him a Nazi again because he's doing something Nazi again because he's doing something Nazi again because he's doing something you know what I mean so there there is a you know what I mean so there there is a you know what I mean so there there is a level of all this I'm putting together level of all this I'm putting together level of all this I'm putting together as how do we as a country make sure that as how do we as a country make sure that as how do we as a country make sure that we're keeping our leadership accountable we're keeping our leadership accountable we're keeping our leadership accountable while also to your point waving the while also to your point waving the while also to your point waving the banner of America because I think one banner of America because I think one banner of America because I think one thing that America is standing on is we thing that America is standing on is we thing that America is standing on is we are a United States we do have a are a United States we do have a are a United States we do have a separation of powers states and federal separation of powers states and federal separation of powers states and federal because we want to make sure that we can because we want to make sure that we can because we want to make sure that we can keep leaders either the states keep leaders either the states keep leaders either the states accountable, we want to make sure we can accountable, we want to make sure we can accountable, we want to make sure we can keep the Fed accountable, but we also keep the Fed accountable, but we also keep the Fed accountable, but we also know that we need both of these things know that we need both of these things know that we need both of these things to work to have a prosperous America. to work to have a prosperous America. to work to have a prosperous America. Man, Drew, you have made something Man, Drew, you have made something Man, Drew, you have made something completely um insane, sound, very completely um insane, sound, very completely um insane, sound, very rational and cogent. You are rational rational and cogent. You are rational rational and cogent. You are rational and cogent, but this moment is not. We and cogent, but this moment is not. We and cogent, but this moment is not. We are in a populist moment. Populism is are in a populist moment. Populism is are in a populist moment. Populism is about emotions. There's a reason that about emotions. There's a reason that about emotions. There's a reason that someone like Candace who literally someone like Candace who literally someone like Candace who literally believes emotion equals true believes emotion equals true believes emotion equals true um she would rise up in a time like this um she would rise up in a time like this um she would rise up in a time like this because when you realize the pie is because when you realize the pie is because when you realize the pie is shrinking, we're fighting over the shrinking, we're fighting over the shrinking, we're fighting over the shrinking pie. Then people go into a shrinking pie. Then people go into a shrinking pie. Then people go into a desperation mode of just get me and my desperation mode of just get me and my desperation mode of just get me and my team my stuff. So everybody's on a team. team my stuff. So everybody's on a team. team my stuff. So everybody's on a team. They they dehumanize the other side. They they dehumanize the other side. They they dehumanize the other side. They want the other side to lose and They want the other side to lose and They want the other side to lose and they will be vicious and cruel to that they will be vicious and cruel to that they will be vicious and cruel to that other side to make sure that they get other side to make sure that they get other side to make sure that they get what they want. And so, um, in populist what they want. And so, um, in populist what they want. And so, um, in populist moments where everybody's on a team and moments where everybody's on a team and moments where everybody's on a team and they are thinking emotionally, they're they are thinking emotionally, they're they are thinking emotionally, they're reasoning by a by emotion. And when you reasoning by a by emotion. And when you reasoning by a by emotion. And when you reason by emotion, meaning I'm making my reason by emotion, meaning I'm making my reason by emotion, meaning I'm making my decisions based on what feels a certain decisions based on what feels a certain decisions based on what feels a certain way, now you're like, you're in the most way, now you're like, you're in the most way, now you're like, you're in the most chaotic, divisive territory that you chaotic, divisive territory that you chaotic, divisive territory that you could ever hope to be. And I don't think could ever hope to be. And I don't think could ever hope to be. And I don't think America is going to be able to bring America is going to be able to bring America is going to be able to bring itself back together unless we're able itself back together unless we're able itself back together unless we're able to state what our value system is, say to state what our value system is, say to state what our value system is, say these are the values that we stand for, these are the values that we stand for, these are the values that we stand for, and we're not going to tolerate things and we're not going to tolerate things and we're not going to tolerate things that deviate from that. So, I'm reading that deviate from that. So, I'm reading that deviate from that. So, I'm reading a a book about the end of um Teddy a a book about the end of um Teddy a a book about the end of um Teddy Roosevelt's life. It's very fascinating. Roosevelt's life. It's very fascinating. Roosevelt's life. It's very fascinating. So, he was a two term president, sort So, he was a two term president, sort So, he was a two term president, sort of. He had almost two full terms and was of. He had almost two full terms and was of. He had almost two full terms and was exceedingly popular. exceedingly popular. exceedingly popular. Gets out of office after his second term Gets out of office after his second term Gets out of office after his second term and um doesn't run for a while. I forget and um doesn't run for a while. I forget and um doesn't run for a while. I forget how many years, like eight years or how many years, like eight years or how many years, like eight years or something crazy. But he's still something crazy. But he's still something crazy. But he's still psychotically popular. And so he goes to psychotically popular. And so he goes to psychotically popular. And so he goes to run again, but as an independent because run again, but as an independent because run again, but as an independent because the Republicans have basically turned the Republicans have basically turned the Republicans have basically turned their back on him. They had a new their back on him. They had a new their back on him. They had a new candidate. They wanted to see him. He candidate. They wanted to see him. He candidate. They wanted to see him. He had already done one term. He wanted to had already done one term. He wanted to had already done one term. He wanted to do two. So he comes in, spoils the do two. So he comes in, spoils the do two. So he comes in, spoils the election, all this stuff. ends up being election, all this stuff. ends up being election, all this stuff. ends up being like this big drama. He does not get like this big drama. He does not get like this big drama. He does not get reelected for a third term. By the way, reelected for a third term. By the way, reelected for a third term. By the way, this is before the constitutional this is before the constitutional this is before the constitutional amendment. amendment. amendment. >> And the thing in the book that's >> And the thing in the book that's >> And the thing in the book that's actually fascinating is people were actually fascinating is people were actually fascinating is people were like, Teddy was a man of great like, Teddy was a man of great like, Teddy was a man of great character. character. character. >> Again, some people are going to disagree >> Again, some people are going to disagree >> Again, some people are going to disagree with his character, but he could with his character, but he could with his character, but he could articulate what it was, what he would articulate what it was, what he would articulate what it was, what he would and wouldn't do, and we've lost that. So and wouldn't do, and we've lost that. So and wouldn't do, and we've lost that. So we don't have we certainly don't have a we don't have we certainly don't have a we don't have we certainly don't have a shared sense of what are the values that shared sense of what are the values that shared sense of what are the values that America would live and die for. And if America would live and die for. And if America would live and die for. And if you don't have a shared set of values, you don't have a shared set of values, you don't have a shared set of values, you cannot articulate them and stand for you cannot articulate them and stand for you cannot articulate them and stand for them. Because your question was like them. Because your question was like them. Because your question was like basically how do we hold America basically how do we hold America basically how do we hold America accountable? How do you hold politicians accountable? How do you hold politicians accountable? How do you hold politicians accountable? You have to say these are accountable? You have to say these are accountable? You have to say these are the things that we Americans agree are the things that we Americans agree are the things that we Americans agree are the right way to do things. You have the right way to do things. You have the right way to do things. You have violated that. Get the [ __ ] out. And violated that. Get the [ __ ] out. And violated that. Get the [ __ ] out. And when you don't have those shared things, when you don't have those shared things, when you don't have those shared things, then everybody just says, "No, no, no. then everybody just says, "No, no, no. then everybody just says, "No, no, no. My team's right." And they'll lie to you My team's right." And they'll lie to you My team's right." And they'll lie to you and feel completely justified. They will and feel completely justified. They will and feel completely justified. They will manipulate you and feel completely manipulate you and feel completely manipulate you and feel completely justified. And nobody is going, "No, justified. And nobody is going, "No, justified. And nobody is going, "No, hold on." Like, it means what it means hold on." Like, it means what it means hold on." Like, it means what it means to have these values. And so, if I say to have these values. And so, if I say to have these values. And so, if I say I'm going to be honest with the American I'm going to be honest with the American I'm going to be honest with the American people, then I'm going to be honest. If people, then I'm going to be honest. If people, then I'm going to be honest. If that means that I get booted out of that means that I get booted out of that means that I get booted out of office, it means I get booted out of office, it means I get booted out of office, it means I get booted out of office, whatever. But I maintain my office, whatever. But I maintain my office, whatever. But I maintain my character and it means something to be character and it means something to be character and it means something to be an American. And so it's very an American. And so it's very an American. And so it's very interesting because the place that we're interesting because the place that we're interesting because the place that we're seeing the value system like where it's seeing the value system like where it's seeing the value system like where it's clearest and it is playing out the most clearest and it is playing out the most clearest and it is playing out the most strongly is Japan. And Japan is like we strongly is Japan. And Japan is like we strongly is Japan. And Japan is like we know what it means to be Japanese and know what it means to be Japanese and know what it means to be Japanese and we're going to stay Japanese. You're we're going to stay Japanese. You're we're going to stay Japanese. You're seeing it in the anime culture where seeing it in the anime culture where seeing it in the anime culture where they're actually passing laws to stop they're actually passing laws to stop they're actually passing laws to stop trying to appeal to a Western audience. trying to appeal to a Western audience. trying to appeal to a Western audience. very fascinating because anime is very fascinating because anime is very fascinating because anime is changing. It's like tenor. It's pretty changing. It's like tenor. It's pretty changing. It's like tenor. It's pretty weird. Like it's from a western weird. Like it's from a western weird. Like it's from a western standpoint, you understand why parents standpoint, you understand why parents standpoint, you understand why parents are like, "Uh-uh." are like, "Uh-uh." are like, "Uh-uh." >> But the Japanese are like, "Hey, the >> But the Japanese are like, "Hey, the >> But the Japanese are like, "Hey, the reason this has become popular is reason this has become popular is reason this has become popular is because we have a certain value set." because we have a certain value set." because we have a certain value set." And this represents that value set. And this represents that value set. And this represents that value set. >> And they're moving fast on immigration >> And they're moving fast on immigration >> And they're moving fast on immigration in a way that I think makes a lot of the in a way that I think makes a lot of the in a way that I think makes a lot of the world uncomfortable. I will say first of world uncomfortable. I will say first of world uncomfortable. I will say first of all, I absolutely love Japan, but I'll all, I absolutely love Japan, but I'll all, I absolutely love Japan, but I'll be the first to admit that when you're be the first to admit that when you're be the first to admit that when you're there, you can tell that you're being there, you can tell that you're being there, you can tell that you're being treated differently as a non-Japanese treated differently as a non-Japanese treated differently as a non-Japanese person. So, it's like, huh? person. So, it's like, huh? person. So, it's like, huh? But they know who they are. They know But they know who they are. They know But they know who they are. They know what they stand for, and that's that. what they stand for, and that's that. what they stand for, and that's that. And so, America has to find that again. And so, America has to find that again. And so, America has to find that again. >> Wasn't that the Constitution, though? >> Wasn't that the Constitution, though? >> Wasn't that the Constitution, though? >> No, the Constitution doesn't lay out >> No, the Constitution doesn't lay out >> No, the Constitution doesn't lay out much of our value system. you'd be a lot much of our value system. you'd be a lot much of our value system. you'd be a lot closer with the Declaration of closer with the Declaration of closer with the Declaration of Independence from a values perspective. Independence from a values perspective. Independence from a values perspective. Now, you can infer values from the Now, you can infer values from the Now, you can infer values from the Constitution, especially the amendments, Constitution, especially the amendments, Constitution, especially the amendments, freedom of speech, things like that, but freedom of speech, things like that, but freedom of speech, things like that, but when you read the de uh the um the when you read the de uh the um the when you read the de uh the um the Constitution, it is shockingly vague and Constitution, it is shockingly vague and Constitution, it is shockingly vague and simplistic. So, you're not going to get simplistic. So, you're not going to get simplistic. So, you're not going to get a lot there. You'll learn a lot more a lot there. You'll learn a lot more a lot there. You'll learn a lot more about America's value system from about America's value system from about America's value system from Christianity than you will from the Christianity than you will from the Christianity than you will from the Constitution. and we've thrown that [ __ ] Constitution. and we've thrown that [ __ ] Constitution. and we've thrown that [ __ ] out the window. out the window. out the window. >> So what is that? What does that look >> So what is that? What does that look >> So what is that? What does that look like then? Because we have to write down like then? Because we have to write down like then? Because we have to write down a value system and share narrative and a value system and share narrative and a value system and share narrative and go for it. Maybe that is why there is a go for it. Maybe that is why there is a go for it. Maybe that is why there is a rise of America first, MAGA, all these rise of America first, MAGA, all these rise of America first, MAGA, all these institutions I'll call them. I don't institutions I'll call them. I don't institutions I'll call them. I don't know a better word for it right now that know a better word for it right now that know a better word for it right now that they can clearly articulate America they can clearly articulate America they can clearly articulate America first means I'm going to do whatever first means I'm going to do whatever first means I'm going to do whatever that puts America first. MAGA. that puts America first. MAGA. that puts America first. MAGA. >> Yes. But even that like >> Yes. But even that like >> Yes. But even that like >> socialism is like at least everybody has >> socialism is like at least everybody has >> socialism is like at least everybody has their teners that they can articulate their teners that they can articulate their teners that they can articulate their values. No one's articulating their values. No one's articulating their values. No one's articulating their values. their values. their values. >> People are articulating their >> People are articulating their >> People are articulating their strategies, their tactics, but they strategies, their tactics, but they strategies, their tactics, but they first of all, they don't agree on what first of all, they don't agree on what first of all, they don't agree on what make uh America great again means. Like make uh America great again means. Like make uh America great again means. Like what era are we talking about? And are what era are we talking about? And are what era are we talking about? And are we talking about um economically we want we talking about um economically we want we talking about um economically we want to make America great again? Are we to make America great again? Are we to make America great again? Are we talking about job creation? Are we talking about job creation? Are we talking about job creation? Are we talking about like blue collar versus talking about like blue collar versus talking about like blue collar versus white collar? Like what are we actually white collar? Like what are we actually white collar? Like what are we actually saying? Because I will say that the saying? Because I will say that the saying? Because I will say that the economy was a lot better in the 80s and economy was a lot better in the 80s and economy was a lot better in the 80s and 90s. And anybody that thinks that that's 90s. And anybody that thinks that that's 90s. And anybody that thinks that that's untrue is absolutely historically blind. untrue is absolutely historically blind. untrue is absolutely historically blind. >> Um, and you look only at the K-shaped >> Um, and you look only at the K-shaped >> Um, and you look only at the K-shaped economy. economy. economy. >> So that is very easy from an economic >> So that is very easy from an economic >> So that is very easy from an economic standpoint. standpoint. standpoint. But there are other issues that in the But there are other issues that in the But there are other issues that in the 80s and 90s were not as good. So now 80s and 90s were not as good. So now 80s and 90s were not as good. So now you've got to map all that out. Okay. So you've got to map all that out. Okay. So you've got to map all that out. Okay. So people don't understand that they have a people don't understand that they have a people don't understand that they have a value system. First of all, most people value system. First of all, most people value system. First of all, most people don't understand that their values are don't understand that their values are don't understand that their values are choices. They confuse them with choices. They confuse them with choices. They confuse them with objective truth. That always creates a objective truth. That always creates a objective truth. That always creates a tremendous amount of confusion for tremendous amount of confusion for tremendous amount of confusion for people. Um, I can tell you what I think people. Um, I can tell you what I think people. Um, I can tell you what I think the American values were when I was the American values were when I was the American values were when I was growing up. I can tell you what I wish growing up. I can tell you what I wish growing up. I can tell you what I wish they were today. Um, but in terms of do they were today. Um, but in terms of do they were today. Um, but in terms of do we actually have shared American values? we actually have shared American values? we actually have shared American values? No, we do not and have not for a very No, we do not and have not for a very No, we do not and have not for a very long time. long time. long time. >> When do you think that was the last time >> When do you think that was the last time >> When do you think that was the last time we had shared American values? I'm just we had shared American values? I'm just we had shared American values? I'm just trying to go to something where we all trying to go to something where we all trying to go to something where we all had like had like had like >> in the 90s it was a lot clearer and that >> in the 90s it was a lot clearer and that >> in the 90s it was a lot clearer and that was sort of when things started petering was sort of when things started petering was sort of when things started petering out. out. out. >> And was that on the back of the Cold >> And was that on the back of the Cold >> And was that on the back of the Cold War? Do you think we had to articulate War? Do you think we had to articulate War? Do you think we had to articulate them or where to? them or where to? them or where to? >> Well, the cold war forced us to um >> Well, the cold war forced us to um >> Well, the cold war forced us to um confront in a very like constantly confront in a very like constantly confront in a very like constantly talking about it kind of way the talking about it kind of way the talking about it kind of way the difference between capitalism and difference between capitalism and difference between capitalism and communism. So that helped because communism. So that helped because communism. So that helped because there's a large values debate hiding there's a large values debate hiding there's a large values debate hiding within that. Um but it it really was within that. Um but it it really was within that. Um but it it really was sort of an unbroken American um sort of an unbroken American um sort of an unbroken American um ethos that started with the founding of ethos that started with the founding of ethos that started with the founding of the country but and it really got the country but and it really got the country but and it really got solidified. There was like just I don't solidified. There was like just I don't solidified. There was like just I don't think we've ever again had an outpouring think we've ever again had an outpouring think we've ever again had an outpouring in terms of being taken seriously by the in terms of being taken seriously by the in terms of being taken seriously by the like literate influencers of the day. an like literate influencers of the day. an like literate influencers of the day. an outpouring of what does it mean to be outpouring of what does it mean to be outpouring of what does it mean to be American like we did when the federalist American like we did when the federalist American like we did when the federalist papers were being written um during the papers were being written um during the papers were being written um during the founding of the nation, the writing of founding of the nation, the writing of founding of the nation, the writing of the Declaration of Independence, the the Declaration of Independence, the the Declaration of Independence, the writing of the Constitution, like all of writing of the Constitution, like all of writing of the Constitution, like all of that stuff really forced the elites when that stuff really forced the elites when that stuff really forced the elites when that actually meant something to that actually meant something to that actually meant something to concretize what does it mean to be concretize what does it mean to be concretize what does it mean to be America American? What is it? What's the America American? What is it? What's the America American? What is it? What's the structure on which we're going to build structure on which we're going to build structure on which we're going to build America? America? America? And it was so infused with a Christian And it was so infused with a Christian And it was so infused with a Christian ethos even though there was separation ethos even though there was separation ethos even though there was separation of church and state in a way that wasn't of church and state in a way that wasn't of church and state in a way that wasn't cynical. It was like just pervasive cynical. It was like just pervasive cynical. It was like just pervasive at that time where it was largely at that time where it was largely at that time where it was largely assumed you were some variant of assumed you were some variant of assumed you were some variant of religious. Now a lot of those guys had a religious. Now a lot of those guys had a religious. Now a lot of those guys had a different version like I think it was different version like I think it was different version like I think it was Jefferson that wrote his own version of Jefferson that wrote his own version of Jefferson that wrote his own version of the Bible. Um, so pretty interesting, the Bible. Um, so pretty interesting, the Bible. Um, so pretty interesting, but um, nonetheless, it was very much but um, nonetheless, it was very much but um, nonetheless, it was very much infused. And if people want to infused. And if people want to infused. And if people want to understand like the most simplified understand like the most simplified understand like the most simplified version of what it means to be built on version of what it means to be built on version of what it means to be built on a Christian ethos, that the individual a Christian ethos, that the individual a Christian ethos, that the individual is the right level of analysis, that is the right level of analysis, that is the right level of analysis, that we're not a collectivist society, and we're not a collectivist society, and we're not a collectivist society, and that's born of this idea that you can that's born of this idea that you can that's born of this idea that you can send your son, have him crucified for send your son, have him crucified for send your son, have him crucified for everybody's uh, to erase everybody's everybody's uh, to erase everybody's everybody's uh, to erase everybody's sins. like that whole idea of like each sins. like that whole idea of like each sins. like that whole idea of like each of you will be judged individually. You of you will be judged individually. You of you will be judged individually. You must act individually and I send an must act individually and I send an must act individually and I send an individual down as like spiritual individual down as like spiritual individual down as like spiritual cleansing. cleansing. cleansing. So that like permeates everything that So that like permeates everything that So that like permeates everything that oversaw the west for so long and that oversaw the west for so long and that oversaw the west for so long and that started to really break down massively started to really break down massively started to really break down massively in the early 2000s in the early 2000s in the early 2000s >> and you know my take because of a >> and you know my take because of a >> and you know my take because of a K-shaped economy. K-shaped economy. K-shaped economy. So that was the first thing that 2028 So that was the first thing that 2028 So that was the first thing that 2028 started to K shape which then started to started to K shape which then started to started to K shape which then started to splinter value. splinter value. splinter value. >> 2028 >> 2028 >> 2028 >> I mean uh 2008 >> I mean uh 2008 >> I mean uh 2008 >> 2000 really people give the com a pass >> 2000 really people give the com a pass >> 2000 really people give the com a pass for a reason I don't understand. Got it. for a reason I don't understand. Got it. for a reason I don't understand. Got it. >> So all of our bad habits started with a >> So all of our bad habits started with a >> So all of our bad habits started with a dot bubble burst. dot bubble burst. dot bubble burst. >> Got it. Okay. Happy. Um we got super >> Got it. Okay. Happy. Um we got super >> Got it. Okay. Happy. Um we got super chats. chats. chats. >> Let's go. >> Let's go. >> Let's go. >> Yes. We got two super chats. First up >> Yes. We got two super chats. First up >> Yes. We got two super chats. First up from the wandering wizard. Fi is the from the wandering wizard. Fi is the from the wandering wizard. Fi is the only ratio that compresses to infinity only ratio that compresses to infinity only ratio that compresses to infinity without losing info. DNA uses it. without losing info. DNA uses it. without losing info. DNA uses it. Galaxies use it. Game engines use it for Galaxies use it. Game engines use it for Galaxies use it. Game engines use it for efficient detail for finite memory. How efficient detail for finite memory. How efficient detail for finite memory. How would you design a structure that would you design a structure that would you design a structure that survives infinite compression? survives infinite compression? survives infinite compression? >> Whoa. I would have to really stop down >> Whoa. I would have to really stop down >> Whoa. I would have to really stop down and research that and look at that to and research that and look at that to and research that and look at that to give you an answer that isn't just give you an answer that isn't just give you an answer that isn't just absolute uh vacuousness. So, I feel absolute uh vacuousness. So, I feel absolute uh vacuousness. So, I feel terrible that I cannot give you an terrible that I cannot give you an terrible that I cannot give you an answer. But I've never explored the answer. But I've never explored the answer. But I've never explored the impact of infinite compression on impact of infinite compression on impact of infinite compression on everyday life. So, man, if I could everyday life. So, man, if I could everyday life. So, man, if I could refund you, I would. I have no good refund you, I would. I have no good refund you, I would. I have no good answer for you. My apologies. It's an answer for you. My apologies. It's an answer for you. My apologies. It's an interesting question. interesting question. interesting question. >> Benjamin Nickel, Texas, says, "End of >> Benjamin Nickel, Texas, says, "End of >> Benjamin Nickel, Texas, says, "End of days theology says there must be peace days theology says there must be peace days theology says there must be peace in the Middle East first." Pax Jud in the Middle East first." Pax Jud in the Middle East first." Pax Jud Judsia Judsia Judsia >> or Judica. >> or Judica. >> or Judica. >> Yeah. Judeica. Uh, okay. End of days >> Yeah. Judeica. Uh, okay. End of days >> Yeah. Judeica. Uh, okay. End of days theology says there must be peace. Yeah. theology says there must be peace. Yeah. theology says there must be peace. Yeah. Uh, are you sure about peace in the Uh, are you sure about peace in the Uh, are you sure about peace in the Middle East? I'm not so sure about that. Middle East? I'm not so sure about that. Middle East? I'm not so sure about that. I think that's the final outcome. But I think that's the final outcome. But I think that's the final outcome. But first, God has to come down to protect first, God has to come down to protect first, God has to come down to protect protect uh Israel at its most uh like on protect uh Israel at its most uh like on protect uh Israel at its most uh like on the edge of being destroyed. And so the edge of being destroyed. And so the edge of being destroyed. And so there's supposed to be like some sort of there's supposed to be like some sort of there's supposed to be like some sort of end of days cataclysmic thing that end of days cataclysmic thing that end of days cataclysmic thing that happens first. Um so it isn't like oh if happens first. Um so it isn't like oh if happens first. Um so it isn't like oh if we just march towards peace in the we just march towards peace in the we just march towards peace in the Middle East that the theology would be Middle East that the theology would be Middle East that the theology would be met. It's far more end of days than met. It's far more end of days than met. It's far more end of days than that. Uh, I'm a headline reader of the that. Uh, I'm a headline reader of the that. Uh, I'm a headline reader of the end of days theology, but it definitely end of days theology, but it definitely end of days theology, but it definitely requires a mahusive war first requires a mahusive war first requires a mahusive war first because it it's the world has to be because it it's the world has to be because it it's the world has to be united against Israel first united against Israel first united against Israel first and that's when God steps in. >> That's it for super. >> That's it for super. >> Um, [laughter] okay. I thought we daisy >> Um, [laughter] okay. I thought we daisy >> Um, [laughter] okay. I thought we daisy chain his other one. Um, imagine you're chain his other one. Um, imagine you're chain his other one. Um, imagine you're in Iran's shoes rather than the US. in Iran's shoes rather than the US. in Iran's shoes rather than the US. Their demands make absolute sense. Yeah. Their demands make absolute sense. Yeah. Their demands make absolute sense. Yeah. So, let's play that game. Okay. So, I'm So, let's play that game. Okay. So, I'm So, let's play that game. Okay. So, I'm Iran and um the question is how many of Iran and um the question is how many of Iran and um the question is how many of my values carry over? Because my values carry over? Because my values carry over? Because everybody's position makes sense to everybody's position makes sense to everybody's position makes sense to them. Uh that's why they're behaving the them. Uh that's why they're behaving the them. Uh that's why they're behaving the way that they behave. The real question way that they behave. The real question way that they behave. The real question is to ask what base assumptions do they is to ask what base assumptions do they is to ask what base assumptions do they have to have in order to believe that have to have in order to believe that have to have in order to believe that they are acting in a logical fashion. they are acting in a logical fashion. they are acting in a logical fashion. And that's where this gets rough. uh And that's where this gets rough. uh And that's where this gets rough. uh when people are willing to murder their when people are willing to murder their when people are willing to murder their own citizens, they have a base own citizens, they have a base own citizens, they have a base assumption that I find hard to identify assumption that I find hard to identify assumption that I find hard to identify with, which is in this case with, which is in this case with, which is in this case um this is what God wants. So God wants um this is what God wants. So God wants um this is what God wants. So God wants women to wear the hijab. God wants XYZ women to wear the hijab. God wants XYZ women to wear the hijab. God wants XYZ thing that we have baked into our um thing that we have baked into our um thing that we have baked into our um nation's charter. And so we're going to nation's charter. And so we're going to nation's charter. And so we're going to do those things because that's what God do those things because that's what God do those things because that's what God wants. And so it's not that I want to wants. And so it's not that I want to wants. And so it's not that I want to kill all these people, but I have to kill all these people, but I have to kill all these people, but I have to maintain control because I'm fighting on maintain control because I'm fighting on maintain control because I'm fighting on behalf of God and they are not. And so behalf of God and they are not. And so behalf of God and they are not. And so there is basically nothing that I there is basically nothing that I there is basically nothing that I wouldn't do. And if you read the Old wouldn't do. And if you read the Old wouldn't do. And if you read the Old Testament, man, when God tells you to do Testament, man, when God tells you to do Testament, man, when God tells you to do something, god damn, like you really do something, god damn, like you really do something, god damn, like you really do it. Uh up to and including killing your it. Uh up to and including killing your it. Uh up to and including killing your kids, sending them to be sacrificed. So kids, sending them to be sacrificed. So kids, sending them to be sacrificed. So that's where from a western liberal like that's where from a western liberal like that's where from a western liberal like in the classic way mindset that just in the classic way mindset that just in the classic way mindset that just seems so crazy. So the thing I always seems so crazy. So the thing I always seems so crazy. So the thing I always invite people to do when you have a invite people to do when you have a invite people to do when you have a strong disagreement with somebody rather strong disagreement with somebody rather strong disagreement with somebody rather than just step inside their shoes and than just step inside their shoes and than just step inside their shoes and go, "Yeah, like I'm Iranian. Of course, go, "Yeah, like I'm Iranian. Of course, go, "Yeah, like I'm Iranian. Of course, this is what I want." You step inside this is what I want." You step inside this is what I want." You step inside their shoes and go, "Okay, what are the their shoes and go, "Okay, what are the their shoes and go, "Okay, what are the base assumptions that I would have to base assumptions that I would have to base assumptions that I would have to believe for this to be the most logical believe for this to be the most logical believe for this to be the most logical path forward?" And then how do we feel path forward?" And then how do we feel path forward?" And then how do we feel about those base assumptions? Which will about those base assumptions? Which will about those base assumptions? Which will bring you into the realization that if bring you into the realization that if bring you into the realization that if you don't know where you're trying to you don't know where you're trying to you don't know where you're trying to end up, there's no way to know if the end up, there's no way to know if the end up, there's no way to know if the steps you're taking are logical. Once steps you're taking are logical. Once steps you're taking are logical. Once you go, oh, this is where I'm trying to you go, oh, this is where I'm trying to you go, oh, this is where I'm trying to end up. Right? So, human flourishing, end up. Right? So, human flourishing, end up. Right? So, human flourishing, give human flourishing a definition. So, give human flourishing a definition. So, give human flourishing a definition. So, for me, the simplest, it's for me, the simplest, it's for me, the simplest, it's oversimplified by a lot, but the oversimplified by a lot, but the oversimplified by a lot, but the simplest way to talk about that would be simplest way to talk about that would be simplest way to talk about that would be to say a spiritually thriving middle to say a spiritually thriving middle to say a spiritually thriving middle class. Cool. Now, it's like, okay, if class. Cool. Now, it's like, okay, if class. Cool. Now, it's like, okay, if that's our goal, we want a spiritually that's our goal, we want a spiritually that's our goal, we want a spiritually thriving middle class. Like, what do we thriving middle class. Like, what do we thriving middle class. Like, what do we have to do to get there? Um, and I will have to do to get there? Um, and I will have to do to get there? Um, and I will say that a lot of what the world does is say that a lot of what the world does is say that a lot of what the world does is just completely anathema to that. Um, just completely anathema to that. Um, just completely anathema to that. Um, which is one of the reasons that I rail which is one of the reasons that I rail which is one of the reasons that I rail so aggressively against socialism and so aggressively against socialism and so aggressively against socialism and communism. They are the absolute worst communism. They are the absolute worst communism. They are the absolute worst things for that. So, but anyway, you things for that. So, but anyway, you things for that. So, but anyway, you have to decide what's my northstar and have to decide what's my northstar and have to decide what's my northstar and now I'm stepping inside the Iranian now I'm stepping inside the Iranian now I'm stepping inside the Iranian shoes. Is this the base assumptions that shoes. Is this the base assumptions that shoes. Is this the base assumptions that they have, are they actually going to they have, are they actually going to they have, are they actually going to lead to that? Yes or no? If yes, cool. lead to that? Yes or no? If yes, cool. lead to that? Yes or no? If yes, cool. All make sense. If no, and oftentimes All make sense. If no, and oftentimes All make sense. If no, and oftentimes people either have no northstar or the people either have no northstar or the people either have no northstar or the things that they're doing make no sense things that they're doing make no sense things that they're doing make no sense given their stated northstar, which given their stated northstar, which given their stated northstar, which means that they have secret goals that means that they have secret goals that means that they have secret goals that may be even secret to themselves. Uh, may be even secret to themselves. Uh, may be even secret to themselves. Uh, which happens, I would say probably 80% which happens, I would say probably 80% which happens, I would say probably 80% of the time, people are actually being of the time, people are actually being of the time, people are actually being pulled by a secret, often icky pulled by a secret, often icky pulled by a secret, often icky motivation that they either aren't aware motivation that they either aren't aware motivation that they either aren't aware of or aren't willing to acknowledge. of or aren't willing to acknowledge. of or aren't willing to acknowledge. Let's jump over to Elizabeth Warren. Let's jump over to Elizabeth Warren. Let's jump over to Elizabeth Warren. uh because she wants to tax on more uh because she wants to tax on more uh because she wants to tax on more people. Surprise, surprise. people. Surprise, surprise. people. Surprise, surprise. >> What a shock. What a shock. I say, Drew, >> What a shock. What a shock. I say, Drew, >> What a shock. What a shock. I say, Drew, >> Jeff Bezos has $222 billion. If you pay >> Jeff Bezos has $222 billion. If you pay >> Jeff Bezos has $222 billion. If you pay my wealth tax this year, he could fund my wealth tax this year, he could fund my wealth tax this year, he could fund insulin in America for everyone who insulin in America for everyone who insulin in America for everyone who needs it, plus free school lunch for needs it, plus free school lunch for needs it, plus free school lunch for every kid in Texas and have plenty of every kid in Texas and have plenty of every kid in Texas and have plenty of money left over. And Bezos will still money left over. And Bezos will still money left over. And Bezos will still have 205 billion to spare to spare. have 205 billion to spare to spare. have 205 billion to spare to spare. >> Uhhuh. Okay. So, uh, money has physics, >> Uhhuh. Okay. So, uh, money has physics, >> Uhhuh. Okay. So, uh, money has physics, boys and girls. And the thing that boys and girls. And the thing that boys and girls. And the thing that Elizabeth Warren is forgetting is that Elizabeth Warren is forgetting is that Elizabeth Warren is forgetting is that money operates in a certain way. So, one money operates in a certain way. So, one money operates in a certain way. So, one thing that I love about you guys in this thing that I love about you guys in this thing that I love about you guys in this community is that you are hyper aware of community is that you are hyper aware of community is that you are hyper aware of the fact that unrealized gains is fake the fact that unrealized gains is fake the fact that unrealized gains is fake money. It's not real. And so, Jeff Bezos money. It's not real. And so, Jeff Bezos money. It's not real. And so, Jeff Bezos has $222 billion of fake money and that has $222 billion of fake money and that has $222 billion of fake money and that if he ever tries to make any of that if he ever tries to make any of that if he ever tries to make any of that real money, he does get taxed. Now, if real money, he does get taxed. Now, if real money, he does get taxed. Now, if there are tax loopholes that you are there are tax loopholes that you are there are tax loopholes that you are absolutely traumatized by, welcome to absolutely traumatized by, welcome to absolutely traumatized by, welcome to the club. I'm here for it. And so if you the club. I'm here for it. And so if you the club. I'm here for it. And so if you want to make some noise around a flat want to make some noise around a flat want to make some noise around a flat tax, I'm all for it. And that way tax, I'm all for it. And that way tax, I'm all for it. And that way there's nowhere anybody can hide. Cool. there's nowhere anybody can hide. Cool. there's nowhere anybody can hide. Cool. Love it. Now, my dearest Elizabeth Love it. Now, my dearest Elizabeth Love it. Now, my dearest Elizabeth Warren, as somebody who doesn't want to Warren, as somebody who doesn't want to Warren, as somebody who doesn't want to be on a team, I'm perfectly happy to be on a team, I'm perfectly happy to be on a team, I'm perfectly happy to help advise and I would love to see you help advise and I would love to see you help advise and I would love to see you shine. That would be absolutely shine. That would be absolutely shine. That would be absolutely incredible. What you would have to do to incredible. What you would have to do to incredible. What you would have to do to shine is to start with fraud. Okay? shine is to start with fraud. Okay? shine is to start with fraud. Okay? Fraud has become a vampire and it is Fraud has become a vampire and it is Fraud has become a vampire and it is bleeding America dry. And once we bleeding America dry. And once we bleeding America dry. And once we understand that fraud is a vampire understand that fraud is a vampire understand that fraud is a vampire that's bleeding America dry, then we that's bleeding America dry, then we that's bleeding America dry, then we know that we need to start right there. know that we need to start right there. know that we need to start right there. We need to be in a position where we're We need to be in a position where we're We need to be in a position where we're going to solve those problems first going to solve those problems first going to solve those problems first because America does not have a revenue because America does not have a revenue because America does not have a revenue problem. We are by far the richest problem. We are by far the richest problem. We are by far the richest country on planet Earth. What we have is country on planet Earth. What we have is country on planet Earth. What we have is a spending problem. And if you always a spending problem. And if you always a spending problem. And if you always spend 15 or 20% more than you make, no spend 15 or 20% more than you make, no spend 15 or 20% more than you make, no matter how much I give you, you're going matter how much I give you, you're going matter how much I give you, you're going to be in the exact same position, and to be in the exact same position, and to be in the exact same position, and that's the part that people just are not that's the part that people just are not that's the part that people just are not reckoning with. No matter how much money reckoning with. No matter how much money reckoning with. No matter how much money you raise in tax if you continue to you raise in tax if you continue to you raise in tax if you continue to deficit spend, then you will have the deficit spend, then you will have the deficit spend, then you will have the same problem always and forever moving same problem always and forever moving same problem always and forever moving into the future. You will have a into the future. You will have a into the future. You will have a K-shaped economy. You will continue to K-shaped economy. You will continue to K-shaped economy. You will continue to hollow out the middle class. People will hollow out the middle class. People will hollow out the middle class. People will be unable to make ends meet, and you'll be unable to make ends meet, and you'll be unable to make ends meet, and you'll have a bunch of people who figure out have a bunch of people who figure out have a bunch of people who figure out the asset game. uh and they'll get the asset game. uh and they'll get the asset game. uh and they'll get richer and richer and richer. Sort of. richer and richer and richer. Sort of. richer and richer and richer. Sort of. By the way, they're not even really By the way, they're not even really By the way, they're not even really getting that much richer. They're just getting that much richer. They're just getting that much richer. They're just treading water and keeping pace with treading water and keeping pace with treading water and keeping pace with inflation. But anyway, it looks like inflation. But anyway, it looks like inflation. But anyway, it looks like they're getting richer on paper. So, they're getting richer on paper. So, they're getting richer on paper. So, those people continue to run away from those people continue to run away from those people continue to run away from the people that are falling farther and the people that are falling farther and the people that are falling farther and farther behind every day because you farther behind every day because you farther behind every day because you refuse to balance the budget. When you refuse to balance the budget. When you refuse to balance the budget. When you throw money at an inefficient system, it throw money at an inefficient system, it throw money at an inefficient system, it does not fix the system. The system just does not fix the system. The system just does not fix the system. The system just has more money going into the has more money going into the has more money going into the inefficiencies. The level of fraud that inefficiencies. The level of fraud that inefficiencies. The level of fraud that we're facing right now as a nation and we're facing right now as a nation and we're facing right now as a nation and we have um we're going to talk about we have um we're going to talk about we have um we're going to talk about this a little bit later but the amount this a little bit later but the amount this a little bit later but the amount of fraud that's in the US system is so of fraud that's in the US system is so of fraud that's in the US system is so staggering. Uh Bessant talked recently. staggering. Uh Bessant talked recently. staggering. Uh Bessant talked recently. He said as much as 10% of the US federal He said as much as 10% of the US federal He said as much as 10% of the US federal government's budget is lost to fraud, government's budget is lost to fraud, government's budget is lost to fraud, waste, and abuse every year. waste, and abuse every year. waste, and abuse every year. >> Might as well jump into that. You can't >> Might as well jump into that. You can't >> Might as well jump into that. You can't just throw it out there. just throw it out there. just throw it out there. >> 10%. >> 10%. >> 10%. >> Uh so until we address that problem, >> Uh so until we address that problem, >> Uh so until we address that problem, we're never going to make any progress. we're never going to make any progress. we're never going to make any progress. So that's really um the stark new So that's really um the stark new So that's really um the stark new reality that Bessant is trying to just reality that Bessant is trying to just reality that Bessant is trying to just absolutely beat into people's heads. But absolutely beat into people's heads. But absolutely beat into people's heads. But clearly Elizabeth Warren is not getting clearly Elizabeth Warren is not getting clearly Elizabeth Warren is not getting the message. But Besson cited estimates the message. But Besson cited estimates the message. But Besson cited estimates from the Government Accountability from the Government Accountability from the Government Accountability Office itself, by the way. And it found Office itself, by the way. And it found Office itself, by the way. And it found that between $233 that between $233 that between $233 billion and $521 billion and $521 billion and $521 billion is being lost. And here's the billion is being lost. And here's the billion is being lost. And here's the important part. every single year. 500 plus billion dollars every single 500 plus billion dollars every single year. Now, Besson is careful to point year. Now, Besson is careful to point year. Now, Besson is careful to point out he's not the one that came up with out he's not the one that came up with out he's not the one that came up with that number. Okay, this is a direct that number. Okay, this is a direct that number. Okay, this is a direct quote from him. That's not my number. He quote from him. That's not my number. He quote from him. That's not my number. He said that's the Government said that's the Government said that's the Government Accountability Office. That's about 10% Accountability Office. That's about 10% Accountability Office. That's about 10% of the federal budget. And and this is of the federal budget. And and this is of the federal budget. And and this is so shocking. It's 1 to 2% of our GDP. so shocking. It's 1 to 2% of our GDP. so shocking. It's 1 to 2% of our GDP. That is insane. 2% of America's GDP is That is insane. 2% of America's GDP is That is insane. 2% of America's GDP is just flushed down the toilet every year. just flushed down the toilet every year. just flushed down the toilet every year. Now, what I'm hoping I can get everybody Now, what I'm hoping I can get everybody Now, what I'm hoping I can get everybody on board with is that if 10% of your on board with is that if 10% of your on board with is that if 10% of your money just disappears every year and you money just disappears every year and you money just disappears every year and you could dramatically improve your life could dramatically improve your life could dramatically improve your life just by putting an end to that, you just by putting an end to that, you just by putting an end to that, you don't have to raise more money. By the don't have to raise more money. By the don't have to raise more money. By the way, and again, every time they talk way, and again, every time they talk way, and again, every time they talk about raising money, they're talking about raising money, they're talking about raising money, they're talking about fictional funds that don't about fictional funds that don't about fictional funds that don't actually exist. It would be devastating actually exist. It would be devastating actually exist. It would be devastating to the economy if they tried to make to the economy if they tried to make to the economy if they tried to make that money real. And if they did, it that money real. And if they did, it that money real. And if they did, it would already be taxed. Okay? So you would already be taxed. Okay? So you would already be taxed. Okay? So you don't have to raise more money. You don't have to raise more money. You don't have to raise more money. You don't even have to cut funding. don't even have to cut funding. don't even have to cut funding. All you have to do is stop money from All you have to do is stop money from All you have to do is stop money from being stolen from you. being stolen from you. being stolen from you. Just start there. Don't don't have any Just start there. Don't don't have any Just start there. Don't don't have any other discussion. Just stop the fraud other discussion. Just stop the fraud other discussion. Just stop the fraud before you ask for any more money for before you ask for any more money for before you ask for any more money for anything. And this is one of those I anything. And this is one of those I anything. And this is one of those I fear we're not going to be able to get fear we're not going to be able to get fear we're not going to be able to get people on board with this. And that's people on board with this. And that's people on board with this. And that's where I begin to um really struggle to where I begin to um really struggle to where I begin to um really struggle to find the path forward to be useful find the path forward to be useful find the path forward to be useful because if we cannot get people on board because if we cannot get people on board because if we cannot get people on board with that, we're really in trouble with that, we're really in trouble with that, we're really in trouble because the country will go broke. Now, because the country will go broke. Now, because the country will go broke. Now, as an entrepreneur, you learn that as an entrepreneur, you learn that as an entrepreneur, you learn that lesson really fast. Going broke is the lesson really fast. Going broke is the lesson really fast. Going broke is the death nail for your company. And so, you death nail for your company. And so, you death nail for your company. And so, you never throw money away on a broken never throw money away on a broken never throw money away on a broken system. it doesn't work and it will system. it doesn't work and it will system. it doesn't work and it will actually make the problem worse. So if actually make the problem worse. So if actually make the problem worse. So if you look at your company and you say, you look at your company and you say, you look at your company and you say, "hm, we're hemorrhaging money." "hm, we're hemorrhaging money." "hm, we're hemorrhaging money." So I know that we've got some sort of So I know that we've got some sort of So I know that we've got some sort of inefficiency here. What I need is to go inefficiency here. What I need is to go inefficiency here. What I need is to go raise capital. Now you accelerate your raise capital. Now you accelerate your raise capital. Now you accelerate your burn. Now you start making foolish burn. Now you start making foolish burn. Now you start making foolish decisions. decisions. decisions. Instead, before you seek additional Instead, before you seek additional Instead, before you seek additional capital, you want to make sure that capital, you want to make sure that capital, you want to make sure that you're running efficiently, that you've you're running efficiently, that you've you're running efficiently, that you've optimized your organization, that you optimized your organization, that you optimized your organization, that you have the right people in the right seats have the right people in the right seats have the right people in the right seats making the right decisions. Now, Bessant making the right decisions. Now, Bessant making the right decisions. Now, Bessant is leaning on a classic law enforcement is leaning on a classic law enforcement is leaning on a classic law enforcement playbook to try to get everybody on playbook to try to get everybody on playbook to try to get everybody on board with this issue. And he said that board with this issue. And he said that board with this issue. And he said that Treasury is now offering cash payments Treasury is now offering cash payments Treasury is now offering cash payments to whistleblowers who can detail, excuse to whistleblowers who can detail, excuse to whistleblowers who can detail, excuse me, fraud operations, who was involved, me, fraud operations, who was involved, me, fraud operations, who was involved, how the cash was moved, when decisions how the cash was moved, when decisions how the cash was moved, when decisions were made, that kind of stuff. And he's were made, that kind of stuff. And he's were made, that kind of stuff. And he's betting that fraudsters will actually betting that fraudsters will actually betting that fraudsters will actually turn on each other. And he's framed the turn on each other. And he's framed the turn on each other. And he's framed the Minnesota investigations as the model Minnesota investigations as the model Minnesota investigations as the model that they're going to use with explicit that they're going to use with explicit that they're going to use with explicit plans to push uh this idea out to all of plans to push uh this idea out to all of plans to push uh this idea out to all of the other 49 states. Now, please the other 49 states. Now, please the other 49 states. Now, please remember y'all, fraudsters are like remember y'all, fraudsters are like remember y'all, fraudsters are like Pokemon. You've got to catch them all. Pokemon. You've got to catch them all. Pokemon. You've got to catch them all. And if I can collectively, if we can get And if I can collectively, if we can get And if I can collectively, if we can get together on that, man, we can make together on that, man, we can make together on that, man, we can make things so much better. It's over $500 things so much better. It's over $500 things so much better. It's over $500 billion a year. That is such a billion a year. That is such a billion a year. That is such a staggering amount. So staggering amount. So staggering amount. So if I put myself in the like I want to if I put myself in the like I want to if I put myself in the like I want to bring everybody to the middle position bring everybody to the middle position bring everybody to the middle position and instead of being absolutely I and instead of being absolutely I and instead of being absolutely I rateate at Elizabeth Warren who I think rateate at Elizabeth Warren who I think rateate at Elizabeth Warren who I think is probably cynical, but if I instead is probably cynical, but if I instead is probably cynical, but if I instead say I assue all cynicism and I really say I assue all cynicism and I really say I assue all cynicism and I really want to see everybody win, want to see everybody win, want to see everybody win, I will just beseech everyone in Congress I will just beseech everyone in Congress I will just beseech everyone in Congress to to to plug the leaky parts of our bucket plug the leaky parts of our bucket plug the leaky parts of our bucket before you ask people to just keep before you ask people to just keep before you ask people to just keep pouring in mythical money showing that pouring in mythical money showing that pouring in mythical money showing that you don't understand the economy. Just you don't understand the economy. Just you don't understand the economy. Just plug the fraud. Get serious there. plug the fraud. Get serious there. plug the fraud. Get serious there. Doesn't have to get to zero. It probably Doesn't have to get to zero. It probably Doesn't have to get to zero. It probably won't get to zero, but boy, it could get won't get to zero, but boy, it could get won't get to zero, but boy, it could get so so so much better. We are behaving as so so so much better. We are behaving as so so so much better. We are behaving as a nation. Going back to this idea of a nation. Going back to this idea of a nation. Going back to this idea of values, we are behaving as a nation values, we are behaving as a nation values, we are behaving as a nation like we're trying to strip mine this like we're trying to strip mine this like we're trying to strip mine this country because we can feel that it's country because we can feel that it's country because we can feel that it's about to be sold for parts. And so if about to be sold for parts. And so if about to be sold for parts. And so if it's going to be sold for parts, we at it's going to be sold for parts, we at it's going to be sold for parts, we at least want to be the ones that benefit least want to be the ones that benefit least want to be the ones that benefit from that. We've got to completely flip from that. We've got to completely flip from that. We've got to completely flip that script. Remember, America's that script. Remember, America's that script. Remember, America's actually been in civil war before. So actually been in civil war before. So actually been in civil war before. So all of us were alive after the country all of us were alive after the country all of us were alive after the country figured out a way to reconcile. We figured out a way to reconcile. We figured out a way to reconcile. We absolutely can come back from all of absolutely can come back from all of absolutely can come back from all of this. It's just a question of how much this. It's just a question of how much this. It's just a question of how much pain and suffering are we going to force pain and suffering are we going to force pain and suffering are we going to force ourselves to go through to actually ourselves to go through to actually ourselves to go through to actually start making decisions that are good. start making decisions that are good. start making decisions that are good. And by the way, if people have a And by the way, if people have a And by the way, if people have a challenge, please remember to challenge challenge, please remember to challenge challenge, please remember to challenge my belief system. All you have to do is my belief system. All you have to do is my belief system. All you have to do is go um human flourishing is a dumb goal go um human flourishing is a dumb goal go um human flourishing is a dumb goal to pursue or saying a spiritually and to pursue or saying a spiritually and to pursue or saying a spiritually and economically thriving middle class is a economically thriving middle class is a economically thriving middle class is a nonsequittor when it comes to talking nonsequittor when it comes to talking nonsequittor when it comes to talking about human flourishing. Cool. Now we about human flourishing. Cool. Now we about human flourishing. Cool. Now we can have that argument. Either you can can have that argument. Either you can can have that argument. Either you can say there's another place that you think say there's another place that you think say there's another place that you think that we should want to end up or no that we should want to end up or no that we should want to end up or no that's where we should want to end up that's where we should want to end up that's where we should want to end up but Tom your definition of that is but Tom your definition of that is but Tom your definition of that is stupid. And then we can go further and stupid. And then we can go further and stupid. And then we can go further and say, Tom, the economic policies that you say, Tom, the economic policies that you say, Tom, the economic policies that you keep beating the drum for, those don't keep beating the drum for, those don't keep beating the drum for, those don't make any sense as a way to actually get make any sense as a way to actually get make any sense as a way to actually get where you want to go. Right? I'm laying where you want to go. Right? I'm laying where you want to go. Right? I'm laying it all out. If people want to challenge it all out. If people want to challenge it all out. If people want to challenge it and because the only one that I'll it and because the only one that I'll it and because the only one that I'll like really fight back on is that human like really fight back on is that human like really fight back on is that human flourishing is stupid. If people say flourishing is stupid. If people say flourishing is stupid. If people say that that's um not a wise thing to that that's um not a wise thing to that that's um not a wise thing to strive for, okay, that one I'm going to strive for, okay, that one I'm going to strive for, okay, that one I'm going to fight for is like a matter of grounding fight for is like a matter of grounding fight for is like a matter of grounding principle. It my entire worldview sits principle. It my entire worldview sits principle. It my entire worldview sits on top of that. So never say never, but on top of that. So never say never, but on top of that. So never say never, but that would be pretty shocking if you that would be pretty shocking if you that would be pretty shocking if you could get me to say that that is um not could get me to say that that is um not could get me to say that that is um not worth pursuing. So worth pursuing. So worth pursuing. So I lay out my value system. I lay out the I lay out my value system. I lay out the I lay out my value system. I lay out the cause and effect that I believe leads us cause and effect that I believe leads us cause and effect that I believe leads us there. And if somebody sees something there. And if somebody sees something there. And if somebody sees something that's better than what I'm proposing, I that's better than what I'm proposing, I that's better than what I'm proposing, I am very very open to it. Um but if we am very very open to it. Um but if we am very very open to it. Um but if we don't have anything better, man, would I don't have anything better, man, would I don't have anything better, man, would I be honored if people would join in the be honored if people would join in the be honored if people would join in the fight for that. It is not my fight. It fight for that. It is not my fight. It fight for that. It is not my fight. It is just what I think is the absolute is just what I think is the absolute is just what I think is the absolute right fight for us all to be engaged in. right fight for us all to be engaged in. right fight for us all to be engaged in. Um, and this is coming from somebody Um, and this is coming from somebody Um, and this is coming from somebody who's won the game of capitalism. Like, who's won the game of capitalism. Like, who's won the game of capitalism. Like, I get it, man. That is uh I get why I get it, man. That is uh I get why I get it, man. That is uh I get why people get into these elite buckets and people get into these elite buckets and people get into these elite buckets and then they just want to fight for the then they just want to fight for the then they just want to fight for the [ __ ] that they've already gotten. I'm [ __ ] that they've already gotten. I'm [ __ ] that they've already gotten. I'm perfectly willing to put myself at risk perfectly willing to put myself at risk perfectly willing to put myself at risk of losing everything that I have. Uh, if of losing everything that I have. Uh, if of losing everything that I have. Uh, if that's what it takes to make sure that that's what it takes to make sure that that's what it takes to make sure that everybody can fight to win. Now, I won't everybody can fight to win. Now, I won't everybody can fight to win. Now, I won't give up everything that I have. That give up everything that I have. That give up everything that I have. That would be moronic. But I will fight to would be moronic. But I will fight to would be moronic. But I will fight to ensure that the system that got me here ensure that the system that got me here ensure that the system that got me here is available to everybody. That is for is available to everybody. That is for is available to everybody. That is for sure. So let's see. sure. So let's see. sure. So let's see. >> It seems like there's a lack of >> It seems like there's a lack of >> It seems like there's a lack of accountability that wants to happen cuz accountability that wants to happen cuz accountability that wants to happen cuz these are actionable things, but there these are actionable things, but there these are actionable things, but there are certain institutions that I guess are certain institutions that I guess are certain institutions that I guess are just above approach. So we're are just above approach. So we're are just above approach. So we're talking about fraud. talking about fraud. talking about fraud. >> A easy answer is like, okay, if there's >> A easy answer is like, okay, if there's >> A easy answer is like, okay, if there's fraud in a certain system, we should go fraud in a certain system, we should go fraud in a certain system, we should go over there and we should audit it. And over there and we should audit it. And over there and we should audit it. And then you hear reports the Pentagon then you hear reports the Pentagon then you hear reports the Pentagon hasn't passed the audit in nine years. hasn't passed the audit in nine years. hasn't passed the audit in nine years. So it's one of those things where it's So it's one of those things where it's So it's one of those things where it's like even when there are like even when there are like even when there are >> who checks the people that are supposed >> who checks the people that are supposed >> who checks the people that are supposed to be check that are supposed to do the to be check that are supposed to do the to be check that are supposed to do the checks. checks. checks. >> That's us the the voting public. We are >> That's us the the voting public. We are >> That's us the the voting public. We are the watchmen. So here is the I'll give the watchmen. So here is the I'll give the watchmen. So here is the I'll give the magic words that the politicians the magic words that the politicians the magic words that the politicians should be saying to each other. Let's should be saying to each other. Let's should be saying to each other. Let's say that you uncover fraud in say that you uncover fraud in say that you uncover fraud in Minneapolis and you see a political Minneapolis and you see a political Minneapolis and you see a political victory with Tim Walls to just victory with Tim Walls to just victory with Tim Walls to just absolutely drag him through the streets absolutely drag him through the streets absolutely drag him through the streets and make it clear that Democrats suck and make it clear that Democrats suck and make it clear that Democrats suck nuts and those guys can just piss off. nuts and those guys can just piss off. nuts and those guys can just piss off. Instead, dear Republicans, what you Instead, dear Republicans, what you Instead, dear Republicans, what you should be saying is we've uncovered a should be saying is we've uncovered a should be saying is we've uncovered a ton of fraud in Minneapolis, but we're ton of fraud in Minneapolis, but we're ton of fraud in Minneapolis, but we're in this together. And so we want to help in this together. And so we want to help in this together. And so we want to help motans get to the bottom of what's going motans get to the bottom of what's going motans get to the bottom of what's going on. Now, getting to the bottom may on. Now, getting to the bottom may on. Now, getting to the bottom may involve incarceration of um corrupt involve incarceration of um corrupt involve incarceration of um corrupt politicians, but that's not the drum politicians, but that's not the drum politicians, but that's not the drum that we beat. And we let that become the that we beat. And we let that become the that we beat. And we let that become the sad reality that ends up being at the sad reality that ends up being at the sad reality that ends up being at the end of the investigation. And then it is end of the investigation. And then it is end of the investigation. And then it is what it is. And uh if we find ourselves what it is. And uh if we find ourselves what it is. And uh if we find ourselves having to incarcerate somebody who's having to incarcerate somebody who's having to incarcerate somebody who's just committed blatant and egregious just committed blatant and egregious just committed blatant and egregious fraud, then it is not a celebratory act. fraud, then it is not a celebratory act. fraud, then it is not a celebratory act. it is. Hey, that's the kind of thing it is. Hey, that's the kind of thing it is. Hey, that's the kind of thing that we have to put behind us. Uh, that we have to put behind us. Uh, that we have to put behind us. Uh, Americans need to be in this together. Americans need to be in this together. Americans need to be in this together. It doesn't matter what side of the aisle It doesn't matter what side of the aisle It doesn't matter what side of the aisle that you're on. Let's just define where that you're on. Let's just define where that you're on. Let's just define where are we trying to get, how do we get are we trying to get, how do we get are we trying to get, how do we get there. Uh, but it's turned into a like there. Uh, but it's turned into a like there. Uh, but it's turned into a like windmill dunk contest where people are windmill dunk contest where people are windmill dunk contest where people are uh leaping over a stack of little people uh leaping over a stack of little people uh leaping over a stack of little people to dunk a ball in some crazy ass to dunk a ball in some crazy ass to dunk a ball in some crazy ass fashion. And like it it it is absurd fashion. And like it it it is absurd fashion. And like it it it is absurd theatrics and circus behavior that is theatrics and circus behavior that is theatrics and circus behavior that is never going to get us where we want to never going to get us where we want to never going to get us where we want to be. Um so yeah, we have to find a way to be. Um so yeah, we have to find a way to be. Um so yeah, we have to find a way to a virtuous path forward. a virtuous path forward. a virtuous path forward. Virtue, man. We got to bring some of Virtue, man. We got to bring some of Virtue, man. We got to bring some of these old school values back. Like you these old school values back. Like you these old school values back. Like you just have to be willing to be like, just have to be willing to be like, just have to be willing to be like, "Yeah, this sucks for me and this is "Yeah, this sucks for me and this is "Yeah, this sucks for me and this is going to be bad for me, but I'm gonna going to be bad for me, but I'm gonna going to be bad for me, but I'm gonna stand up for this value." Dude, can stand up for this value." Dude, can stand up for this value." Dude, can people just watch more anime? Like it people just watch more anime? Like it people just watch more anime? Like it it's wild watching Japanese culture it's wild watching Japanese culture it's wild watching Japanese culture express itself because they have some express itself because they have some express itself because they have some really weird values from my perspective really weird values from my perspective really weird values from my perspective obviously where like honor is still a obviously where like honor is still a obviously where like honor is still a thing and it's like no I would rather thing and it's like no I would rather thing and it's like no I would rather die than give up my honor. That's wild. die than give up my honor. That's wild. die than give up my honor. That's wild. Uh but and I'm not saying that's the Uh but and I'm not saying that's the Uh but and I'm not saying that's the value that Americans need to get but we value that Americans need to get but we value that Americans need to get but we need to remind ourselves that there are need to remind ourselves that there are need to remind ourselves that there are things that we've got to be willing to things that we've got to be willing to things that we've got to be willing to say yeah even if this hurts me say yeah even if this hurts me say yeah even if this hurts me personally this is the right thing. And personally this is the right thing. And personally this is the right thing. And so I'm going to stand up for it. so I'm going to stand up for it. so I'm going to stand up for it. >> It's interesting though because we talk >> It's interesting though because we talk >> It's interesting though because we talk about how do we get out of this moment, about how do we get out of this moment, about how do we get out of this moment, but this moment was perpetuated by the but this moment was perpetuated by the but this moment was perpetuated by the shrinking pie. So is that the only way shrinking pie. So is that the only way shrinking pie. So is that the only way out? Is we just need to figure out a out? Is we just need to figure out a out? Is we just need to figure out a way? way? way? >> It's not the only way. It's just history >> It's not the only way. It's just history >> It's not the only way. It's just history tells you that if you solve the tells you that if you solve the tells you that if you solve the shrinking pie problem, you don't run shrinking pie problem, you don't run shrinking pie problem, you don't run into those frictions. So it's a bit like into those frictions. So it's a bit like into those frictions. So it's a bit like you can think that you have no political you can think that you have no political you can think that you have no political friction with somebody by not talking friction with somebody by not talking friction with somebody by not talking about politics. when the pie's growing, about politics. when the pie's growing, about politics. when the pie's growing, people just don't talk about money. people just don't talk about money. people just don't talk about money. There's plenty to go around. It's when There's plenty to go around. It's when There's plenty to go around. It's when the pie starts shrinking that suddenly the pie starts shrinking that suddenly the pie starts shrinking that suddenly people go into like a panic mode and people go into like a panic mode and people go into like a panic mode and it's like I've got to get for me and it's like I've got to get for me and it's like I've got to get for me and mine. mine. mine. >> And it gets wild, man. Because like if >> And it gets wild, man. Because like if >> And it gets wild, man. Because like if you think about, okay, let's say um read you think about, okay, let's say um read you think about, okay, let's say um read about Native Americans. So there's like about Native Americans. So there's like about Native Americans. So there's like a cultural thing where um if you offer a cultural thing where um if you offer a cultural thing where um if you offer food to somebody then and I'm sure it's food to somebody then and I'm sure it's food to somebody then and I'm sure it's different for different tribes and the different for different tribes and the different for different tribes and the tribe that I'm thinking of, [ __ ] I'm tribe that I'm thinking of, [ __ ] I'm tribe that I'm thinking of, [ __ ] I'm going to forget the name of it right going to forget the name of it right going to forget the name of it right now. That's the second shot today, I now. That's the second shot today, I now. That's the second shot today, I think, for people playing the drinking think, for people playing the drinking think, for people playing the drinking game. Uh, I'll try to keep you out of game. Uh, I'll try to keep you out of game. Uh, I'll try to keep you out of getting poisoned. Um, I forget the tribe getting poisoned. Um, I forget the tribe getting poisoned. Um, I forget the tribe that did this, but um, they if they that did this, but um, they if they that did this, but um, they if they offered you, they got, you know, they offered you, they got, you know, they offered you, they got, you know, they captured the wilderbeast or whatever, captured the wilderbeast or whatever, captured the wilderbeast or whatever, they bring it back. Not a wild the they bring it back. Not a wild the they bring it back. Not a wild the beast, I'm well aware, uh, the buffalo. beast, I'm well aware, uh, the buffalo. beast, I'm well aware, uh, the buffalo. they bring it back and if they offer you they bring it back and if they offer you they bring it back and if they offer you like, "Hey, if you're old and sick, uh, like, "Hey, if you're old and sick, uh, like, "Hey, if you're old and sick, uh, you can come and get some, that means you can come and get some, that means you can come and get some, that means you eat last as the person that caught you eat last as the person that caught you eat last as the person that caught it." Now, you don't have to make the it." Now, you don't have to make the it." Now, you don't have to make the offer, but if you make the offer, you offer, but if you make the offer, you offer, but if you make the offer, you stand by it. stand by it. stand by it. >> Now, what happens if you make the offer, >> Now, what happens if you make the offer, >> Now, what happens if you make the offer, you didn't realize how many people were you didn't realize how many people were you didn't realize how many people were going to show up at your doorstep. Now, going to show up at your doorstep. Now, going to show up at your doorstep. Now, you realize, oh, my mom's like really in you realize, oh, my mom's like really in you realize, oh, my mom's like really in dire straits. I need to save some for dire straits. I need to save some for dire straits. I need to save some for her. Which is more important? Is it that her. Which is more important? Is it that her. Which is more important? Is it that mine me and mine first or are you going mine me and mine first or are you going mine me and mine first or are you going to stand by the in our community if we to stand by the in our community if we to stand by the in our community if we say the sick and the old can come get say the sick and the old can come get say the sick and the old can come get some, they can come get some even if some, they can come get some even if some, they can come get some even if that means I go hungry. that means I go hungry. that means I go hungry. >> And so there's a really interesting >> And so there's a really interesting >> And so there's a really interesting story that gets told in the book that story that gets told in the book that story that gets told in the book that I'm reading right now about that where I'm reading right now about that where I'm reading right now about that where the the actual hunter that did it was the the actual hunter that did it was the the actual hunter that did it was young and so he popped off a little bit young and so he popped off a little bit young and so he popped off a little bit too much. Too many people came and they too much. Too many people came and they too much. Too many people came and they only ended up having like two days worth only ended up having like two days worth only ended up having like two days worth of food and he was like, "Hey, I want of food and he was like, "Hey, I want of food and he was like, "Hey, I want some more." And his mom was like, some more." And his mom was like, some more." And his mom was like, "Sorry, you told everybody they could "Sorry, you told everybody they could "Sorry, you told everybody they could come get they come got and like now come get they come got and like now come get they come got and like now you're in trouble." But she was like, you're in trouble." But she was like, you're in trouble." But she was like, "But now they're really like singing "But now they're really like singing "But now they're really like singing your praises because you were so your praises because you were so your praises because you were so honorable." And so it's like, "Okay, honorable." And so it's like, "Okay, honorable." And so it's like, "Okay, what are you going to stand by? You what are you going to stand by? You what are you going to stand by? You going to stand by being hungry?" No, going to stand by being hungry?" No, going to stand by being hungry?" No, most people won't. That's why they say most people won't. That's why they say most people won't. That's why they say that you're only uh what, nine meals that you're only uh what, nine meals that you're only uh what, nine meals away from revolution, three days of away from revolution, three days of away from revolution, three days of starvation. starvation. starvation. >> And people start acting real different. >> And people start acting real different. >> And people start acting real different. Um so [clears throat] that's just the Um so [clears throat] that's just the Um so [clears throat] that's just the reality. We're in a place where people reality. We're in a place where people reality. We're in a place where people have not defined their values. They have not defined their values. They have not defined their values. They don't reinforce values in their kids don't reinforce values in their kids don't reinforce values in their kids like up to and saying like this is how like up to and saying like this is how like up to and saying like this is how we are even if that means that you we are even if that means that you we are even if that means that you suffer personally. Um suffer personally. Um suffer personally. Um so yeah, expect people to fall back on so yeah, expect people to fall back on so yeah, expect people to fall back on selfishness. selfishness. selfishness. >> No, that's interesting. That kind of >> No, that's interesting. That kind of >> No, that's interesting. That kind of leads us into our next conversation. leads us into our next conversation. leads us into our next conversation. We've been talking about this right We've been talking about this right We've been talking about this right before we got rolling. Uh so I'll give before we got rolling. Uh so I'll give before we got rolling. Uh so I'll give you guys a timeline of this. So Joanie you guys a timeline of this. So Joanie you guys a timeline of this. So Joanie Ascola tweeted a picture of Lex Freeman Ascola tweeted a picture of Lex Freeman Ascola tweeted a picture of Lex Freeman and said, "One idiot we are happy not to and said, "One idiot we are happy not to and said, "One idiot we are happy not to hear from anymore." And then Caleb hear from anymore." And then Caleb hear from anymore." And then Caleb Hammer retweeted him and say, "What did Hammer retweeted him and say, "What did Hammer retweeted him and say, "What did he do? I feel like the internet just he do? I feel like the internet just he do? I feel like the internet just decides to hate someone after they are decides to hate someone after they are decides to hate someone after they are popular long enough for no reason." And popular long enough for no reason." And popular long enough for no reason." And I went through the rabbit hole of like, I went through the rabbit hole of like, I went through the rabbit hole of like, "Did Lex retire? Did he end the podcast "Did Lex retire? Did he end the podcast "Did Lex retire? Did he end the podcast or something?" But no, he dropped the or something?" But no, he dropped the or something?" But no, he dropped the episode like 3 days ago. So it's like I episode like 3 days ago. So it's like I episode like 3 days ago. So it's like I don't know what the rub is, but Lex was don't know what the rub is, but Lex was don't know what the rub is, but Lex was just the cop the topic of conversation just the cop the topic of conversation just the cop the topic of conversation and everybody just wanted to kind of and everybody just wanted to kind of and everybody just wanted to kind of dunk on him. So, is is there some type dunk on him. So, is is there some type dunk on him. So, is is there some type of historical context for there? The of historical context for there? The of historical context for there? The only reference I have is the Chris Nolan only reference I have is the Chris Nolan only reference I have is the Chris Nolan line. You either die a villain or live line. You either die a villain or live line. You either die a villain or live yourself long enough. You either die yourself long enough. You either die yourself long enough. You either die here or live long enough to see yourself here or live long enough to see yourself here or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Like, that's the become the villain. Like, that's the become the villain. Like, that's the only place I can kind of see only place I can kind of see only place I can kind of see rationalizing this. rationalizing this. rationalizing this. >> I think Lex Freiedman represents >> I think Lex Freiedman represents >> I think Lex Freiedman represents optimism in an age of cynicism and optimism in an age of cynicism and optimism in an age of cynicism and people just cannot have it. A certain people just cannot have it. A certain people just cannot have it. A certain type of person cannot have it type of person cannot have it type of person cannot have it >> and that is so sad. So, first of all, >> and that is so sad. So, first of all, >> and that is so sad. So, first of all, Lex, I don't know you never met you. uh Lex, I don't know you never met you. uh Lex, I don't know you never met you. uh keep doing what you're doing, man. If keep doing what you're doing, man. If keep doing what you're doing, man. If you need any encouragement, here it is. you need any encouragement, here it is. you need any encouragement, here it is. So, yeah, what he's doing is awesome. So, yeah, what he's doing is awesome. So, yeah, what he's doing is awesome. And he came out of nowhere and built And he came out of nowhere and built And he came out of nowhere and built this incredible podcast. He's very good this incredible podcast. He's very good this incredible podcast. He's very good at what he does. I get that he's not at what he does. I get that he's not at what he does. I get that he's not everybody's cup of tea. But as somebody everybody's cup of tea. But as somebody everybody's cup of tea. But as somebody that's done over a thousand interviews, that's done over a thousand interviews, that's done over a thousand interviews, I will tell you right now, this kid is I will tell you right now, this kid is I will tell you right now, this kid is good, very, very good at what he does. good, very, very good at what he does. good, very, very good at what he does. Whether you like his book list or not, Whether you like his book list or not, Whether you like his book list or not, which was like the first thing that which was like the first thing that which was like the first thing that people lit him on fire for. I was like, people lit him on fire for. I was like, people lit him on fire for. I was like, the [ __ ] like, will you please just let the [ __ ] like, will you please just let the [ __ ] like, will you please just let whoever like the things that they like? whoever like the things that they like? whoever like the things that they like? Uh, you don't have to like it. He didn't Uh, you don't have to like it. He didn't Uh, you don't have to like it. He didn't say, "Here's the book list that you say, "Here's the book list that you say, "Here's the book list that you better read or you're a bad person." He better read or you're a bad person." He better read or you're a bad person." He said, "Here's the book list I'm going to said, "Here's the book list I'm going to said, "Here's the book list I'm going to read." And people went crazy for him. read." And people went crazy for him. read." And people went crazy for him. So, uh, yeah, I don't get it. I think So, uh, yeah, I don't get it. I think So, uh, yeah, I don't get it. I think that we're living in an age of cynicism that we're living in an age of cynicism that we're living in an age of cynicism right now. And I think that giving in to right now. And I think that giving in to right now. And I think that giving in to your darker impulses is a terrible way your darker impulses is a terrible way your darker impulses is a terrible way to live your life. Find beauty in to live your life. Find beauty in to live your life. Find beauty in things. Find people that find beauty in things. Find people that find beauty in things. Find people that find beauty in things. Try to encourage that. Seeing things. Try to encourage that. Seeing things. Try to encourage that. Seeing somebody who's passionate about somebody who's passionate about somebody who's passionate about something is awesome. And this guy will something is awesome. And this guy will something is awesome. And this guy will go super deep. By the way, he did an go super deep. By the way, he did an go super deep. By the way, he did an interview recently with I am Jeff from interview recently with I am Jeff from interview recently with I am Jeff from Overwatch. Jeff Kaplan, uh, I believe is Overwatch. Jeff Kaplan, uh, I believe is Overwatch. Jeff Kaplan, uh, I believe is his name, who's doing a video game his name, who's doing a video game his name, who's doing a video game called Legend of California. By the way, called Legend of California. By the way, called Legend of California. By the way, you guys should check that out. Uh, I've you guys should check that out. Uh, I've you guys should check that out. Uh, I've applied for the initial, um, it's in applied for the initial, um, it's in applied for the initial, um, it's in alpha testing right now. Anyway, if alpha testing right now. Anyway, if alpha testing right now. Anyway, if you're into that kind of game, uh, be you're into that kind of game, uh, be you're into that kind of game, uh, be sure to check it out. Thank you, Lex, sure to check it out. Thank you, Lex, sure to check it out. Thank you, Lex, for that 5 hour interview with him, for that 5 hour interview with him, for that 5 hour interview with him, which I absolutely loved. So anyway, which I absolutely loved. So anyway, which I absolutely loved. So anyway, don't be cynical, boys and girls. Don't don't be cynical, boys and girls. Don't don't be cynical, boys and girls. Don't give into that. Um, that is a really give into that. Um, that is a really give into that. Um, that is a really subpar way to live your life. So don't subpar way to live your life. So don't subpar way to live your life. So don't give in to all that internet drama. give in to all that internet drama. give in to all that internet drama. >> Do you have like a secret beef with >> Do you have like a secret beef with >> Do you have like a secret beef with somebody on the internet? Be honest. Is somebody on the internet? Be honest. Is somebody on the internet? Be honest. Is there there there >> secret beef? Anybody get internet mad at >> secret beef? Anybody get internet mad at >> secret beef? Anybody get internet mad at people? people? people? >> Oh, I get internet mad at mom Donnie. I >> Oh, I get internet mad at mom Donnie. I >> Oh, I get internet mad at mom Donnie. I have to really check myself [laughter] have to really check myself [laughter] have to really check myself [laughter] with like how I even think through those with like how I even think through those with like how I even think through those problems because I'm like, "Okay, you're problems because I'm like, "Okay, you're problems because I'm like, "Okay, you're at your most emotional, which means that at your most emotional, which means that at your most emotional, which means that you're at your least rational. you're you're at your least rational. you're you're at your least rational. you're you have motivated reasoning. So, I you have motivated reasoning. So, I you have motivated reasoning. So, I spend like half my time trying to find spend like half my time trying to find spend like half my time trying to find like, okay, what's the positive thing like, okay, what's the positive thing like, okay, what's the positive thing that he's doing here? Like, what's the that he's doing here? Like, what's the that he's doing here? Like, what's the belief that he's holding? He's building belief that he's holding? He's building belief that he's holding? He's building this world. Like, is he being cynical or this world. Like, is he being cynical or this world. Like, is he being cynical or does he actually have a worldview that does he actually have a worldview that does he actually have a worldview that would lead him to believe this really is would lead him to believe this really is would lead him to believe this really is the right thing to do? Like, you've the right thing to do? Like, you've the right thing to do? Like, you've really got to spend time with that. really got to spend time with that. really got to spend time with that. >> Um, is there anybody else? Like, he's >> Um, is there anybody else? Like, he's >> Um, is there anybody else? Like, he's the only one because he's an avatar for the only one because he's an avatar for the only one because he's an avatar for me for socialism and communism. me for socialism and communism. me for socialism and communism. um he's the person that I get big mad at um he's the person that I get big mad at um he's the person that I get big mad at because like when you really get on the because like when you really get on the because like when you really get on the ground level of making people's lives ground level of making people's lives ground level of making people's lives better, he is the absolute worst thing better, he is the absolute worst thing better, he is the absolute worst thing for them. And it's one of those where for them. And it's one of those where for them. And it's one of those where how do I how do I make this make sense? how do I how do I make this make sense? how do I how do I make this make sense? Um, let's say that you know what's going on let's say that you know what's going on with Epstein. with Epstein. with Epstein. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And Epstein launches a um camp for kids >> And Epstein launches a um camp for kids >> And Epstein launches a um camp for kids and we're going to help kids learn and we're going to help kids learn and we're going to help kids learn skills. And you're just like, "Stop. skills. And you're just like, "Stop. skills. And you're just like, "Stop. Everybody [ __ ] stop. This guy is Everybody [ __ ] stop. This guy is Everybody [ __ ] stop. This guy is molesting every one of these kids." molesting every one of these kids." molesting every one of these kids." Okay? It's like a factory. They're Okay? It's like a factory. They're Okay? It's like a factory. They're destroying their lives. Please, for the destroying their lives. Please, for the destroying their lives. Please, for the love of God, and somehow someway, you love of God, and somehow someway, you love of God, and somehow someway, you just can't get people to listen. And just can't get people to listen. And just can't get people to listen. And you're like, hold on. This guy went to you're like, hold on. This guy went to you're like, hold on. This guy went to prison. Like, imagine for a second. He prison. Like, imagine for a second. He prison. Like, imagine for a second. He went to prison. What did he go to prison went to prison. What did he go to prison went to prison. What did he go to prison for, guys? He went to prison because he for, guys? He went to prison because he for, guys? He went to prison because he literally had like an industrial um literally had like an industrial um literally had like an industrial um child abuse complex that abused 45 child abuse complex that abused 45 child abuse complex that abused 45 million children. And you'd be like, million children. And you'd be like, million children. And you'd be like, "Get out of here." 45. No, no, no. For "Get out of here." 45. No, no, no. For "Get out of here." 45. No, no, no. For real. Receipt after receipt after real. Receipt after receipt after real. Receipt after receipt after receipt. And people still send their receipt. And people still send their receipt. And people still send their [ __ ] kids and they're raising money [ __ ] kids and they're raising money [ __ ] kids and they're raising money for it and they're electing him and for it and they're electing him and for it and they're electing him and you're like, "What is happening?" That's you're like, "What is happening?" That's you're like, "What is happening?" That's how I feel about socialism and how I feel about socialism and how I feel about socialism and communism. It took China alone, just communism. It took China alone, just communism. It took China alone, just China, and just their famine starved. China, and just their famine starved. China, and just their famine starved. It's known as an engineered famine, It's known as an engineered famine, It's known as an engineered famine, meaning they made choices that made it meaning they made choices that made it meaning they made choices that made it happen. happen. happen. >> Just China's engineered famine, which >> Just China's engineered famine, which >> Just China's engineered famine, which was not the only one, killed 45 million was not the only one, killed 45 million was not the only one, killed 45 million people. people. people. So I'm like, "Holy Jesus, boys and So I'm like, "Holy Jesus, boys and So I'm like, "Holy Jesus, boys and girls, can we please? These policies are girls, can we please? These policies are girls, can we please? These policies are not new. They've been tried. They don't not new. They've been tried. They don't not new. They've been tried. They don't work." Well, they work at being work." Well, they work at being work." Well, they work at being absolutely murderous. They're really absolutely murderous. They're really absolutely murderous. They're really efficient at murder, murder, murder. So, efficient at murder, murder, murder. So, efficient at murder, murder, murder. So, we freak out about the gas chambers, but we freak out about the gas chambers, but we freak out about the gas chambers, but we don't freak out about the starvation. we don't freak out about the starvation. we don't freak out about the starvation. And that's the part where I'm like, how And that's the part where I'm like, how And that's the part where I'm like, how do you get people to pay attention to do you get people to pay attention to do you get people to pay attention to that? that? that? >> Every book you can imagine is written >> Every book you can imagine is written >> Every book you can imagine is written about it. Uh, your AI knows all about about it. Uh, your AI knows all about about it. Uh, your AI knows all about it. You can just ask right now. Um, I it. You can just ask right now. Um, I it. You can just ask right now. Um, I talk endlessly about it, but talk endlessly about it, but talk endlessly about it, but people just like go they wave hammer and people just like go they wave hammer and people just like go they wave hammer and sickle flags. Dude, sickle flags. Dude, sickle flags. Dude, >> what? That's crazy. That's crazy. That's >> what? That's crazy. That's crazy. That's >> what? That's crazy. That's crazy. That's like going to um a uh like preschool like going to um a uh like preschool like going to um a uh like preschool >> and waving uh Epstein flags where I'm >> and waving uh Epstein flags where I'm >> and waving uh Epstein flags where I'm just like, I'm sorry, what's happening? just like, I'm sorry, what's happening? just like, I'm sorry, what's happening? Like this is this is so crazy. It is Like this is this is so crazy. It is Like this is this is so crazy. It is that ridiculous. And the way that you that ridiculous. And the way that you that ridiculous. And the way that you feel right now, like this is ad feel right now, like this is ad feel right now, like this is ad absurdum, is how I feel when I see absurdum, is how I feel when I see absurdum, is how I feel when I see people waving hammer and suckle flags. people waving hammer and suckle flags. people waving hammer and suckle flags. I'm just like either you're evil or you I'm just like either you're evil or you I'm just like either you're evil or you are so historically ignorant that you are so historically ignorant that you are so historically ignorant that you don't actually know what that means. don't actually know what that means. don't actually know what that means. >> Oo. So anyway, that was a question about >> Oo. So anyway, that was a question about >> Oo. So anyway, that was a question about who am I big mad at on the internet. who am I big mad at on the internet. who am I big mad at on the internet. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] And as you see, I cannot stop myself. So And as you see, I cannot stop myself. So And as you see, I cannot stop myself. So he is an avatar for all that. he is an avatar for all that. he is an avatar for all that. >> I have seen that. Um, another person who >> I have seen that. Um, another person who >> I have seen that. Um, another person who was catching heat uh this weekend was uh was catching heat uh this weekend was uh was catching heat uh this weekend was uh the artist formerly known as Kanye the artist formerly known as Kanye the artist formerly known as Kanye because he did two soldout shows 80,000 because he did two soldout shows 80,000 because he did two soldout shows 80,000 people at Sofi Stadium in Los Angeles people at Sofi Stadium in Los Angeles people at Sofi Stadium in Los Angeles Wednesday and Friday. Wednesday and Friday. Wednesday and Friday. >> Look at that, bro. >> Look at that, bro. >> Look at that, bro. >> Crazy stage. >> Crazy stage. >> Crazy stage. >> Here's the thing. He said some things that are tough to He said some things that are tough to get past. get past. get past. >> He made songs that are tough to get >> He made songs that are tough to get >> He made songs that are tough to get past. past. past. >> He made songs that are tough to catchy >> He made songs that are tough to catchy >> He made songs that are tough to catchy though. You got to give him that. Now though. You got to give him that. Now though. You got to give him that. Now this this is this this is this this is he is an artistic genius. he is an artistic genius. he is an artistic genius. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> He can both be >> He can both be >> He can both be morally repugnant and an incredible morally repugnant and an incredible morally repugnant and an incredible artist. artist. artist. But that like if you want Okay. When I But that like if you want Okay. When I But that like if you want Okay. When I got into podcasting, somebody said to got into podcasting, somebody said to got into podcasting, somebody said to me, um, Tom, what are you doing? It's me, um, Tom, what are you doing? It's me, um, Tom, what are you doing? It's all played out. This is like what, 2015? all played out. This is like what, 2015? all played out. This is like what, 2015? It's all played out. The people that It's all played out. The people that It's all played out. The people that have made it have already made it. And have made it have already made it. And have made it have already made it. And I'll remind anybody listening to this. I'll remind anybody listening to this. I'll remind anybody listening to this. I've made tens of millions of dollars I've made tens of millions of dollars I've made tens of millions of dollars over the life of my podcast. Um, and over the life of my podcast. Um, and over the life of my podcast. Um, and they were like, I don't know why you're they were like, I don't know why you're they were like, I don't know why you're bothering. This is crazy. And I was bothering. This is crazy. And I was bothering. This is crazy. And I was like, there's always room for the best. like, there's always room for the best. like, there's always room for the best. >> Now, I've never achieved that, but >> Now, I've never achieved that, but >> Now, I've never achieved that, but that's the right attitude. that's the right attitude. that's the right attitude. >> Kanye is showing there's always room for >> Kanye is showing there's always room for >> Kanye is showing there's always room for the best. Like, if you can create, look the best. Like, if you can create, look the best. Like, if you can create, look at this. If you're not looking at your at this. If you're not looking at your at this. If you're not looking at your screen, this is the craziest set I've screen, this is the craziest set I've screen, this is the craziest set I've ever seen in my life for like it. He's ever seen in my life for like it. He's ever seen in my life for like it. He's standing on basically half of the what's standing on basically half of the what's standing on basically half of the what's that thing in um Vegas? The sphere. He's that thing in um Vegas? The sphere. He's that thing in um Vegas? The sphere. He's standing on basically half the sphere standing on basically half the sphere standing on basically half the sphere and just performing on top of the and just performing on top of the and just performing on top of the world's largest like LED screens. This world's largest like LED screens. This world's largest like LED screens. This is it makes these incredible images. And is it makes these incredible images. And is it makes these incredible images. And he's got a catalog that's just like he's got a catalog that's just like he's got a catalog that's just like people going to get hype. So yeah, like people going to get hype. So yeah, like people going to get hype. So yeah, like if you can still make a statement that if you can still make a statement that if you can still make a statement that makes people feel something, you can makes people feel something, you can makes people feel something, you can come back from a lot. But if you're a come back from a lot. But if you're a come back from a lot. But if you're a halfass artist, good luck. You're halfass artist, good luck. You're halfass artist, good luck. You're [ __ ] But he's not like he's really [ __ ] But he's not like he's really [ __ ] But he's not like he's really got the goods. It'll be interesting to got the goods. It'll be interesting to got the goods. It'll be interesting to see, man. It'll be interesting to see. see, man. It'll be interesting to see. see, man. It'll be interesting to see. He went hard hard hard in the He went hard hard hard in the He went hard hard hard in the anti-semite paint. Like it it was pretty anti-semite paint. Like it it was pretty anti-semite paint. Like it it was pretty wild. wild. wild. >> So we'll see. It It's interesting to >> So we'll see. It It's interesting to >> So we'll see. It It's interesting to have this conversation because I feel have this conversation because I feel have this conversation because I feel like every time Kanye does something, like every time Kanye does something, like every time Kanye does something, the whole like cancel conversation like the whole like cancel conversation like the whole like cancel conversation like rears its ugly head. rears its ugly head. rears its ugly head. >> Yeah. But if his music's good enough. >> Yeah. But if his music's good enough. >> Yeah. But if his music's good enough. >> Yeah. And but I I can even extend that >> Yeah. And but I I can even extend that >> Yeah. And but I I can even extend that conversation where like Louis CK is conversation where like Louis CK is conversation where like Louis CK is doing a Netflix is a joke comedies doing a Netflix is a joke comedies doing a Netflix is a joke comedies festival. So there's certain people that festival. So there's certain people that festival. So there's certain people that were quote unquote untouchable five, were quote unquote untouchable five, were quote unquote untouchable five, six, 10 years ago, whatever like that six, 10 years ago, whatever like that six, 10 years ago, whatever like that that we see they go through their arc that we see they go through their arc that we see they go through their arc and they're starting to pop their head and they're starting to pop their head and they're starting to pop their head out. Roseanne got cancelled. She's been out. Roseanne got cancelled. She's been out. Roseanne got cancelled. She's been on She's like back on Twitter. She's a on She's like back on Twitter. She's a on She's like back on Twitter. She's a social uh polit political commentator social uh polit political commentator social uh polit political commentator now. So there's all these people that we now. So there's all these people that we now. So there's all these people that we kind of exile, then they the great ones kind of exile, then they the great ones kind of exile, then they the great ones make their way back. Some not so great make their way back. Some not so great make their way back. Some not so great ones just kind of like fizzle off. And ones just kind of like fizzle off. And ones just kind of like fizzle off. And is it just all going back to when you're is it just all going back to when you're is it just all going back to when you're that great at something, you find the that great at something, you find the that great at something, you find the audience again? audience again? audience again? >> There there's something that I tell >> There there's something that I tell >> There there's something that I tell entrepreneurs all the time. You get entrepreneurs all the time. You get entrepreneurs all the time. You get 10,000 chances to make a first 10,000 chances to make a first 10,000 chances to make a first impression. impression. impression. If if you can come back with something If if you can come back with something If if you can come back with something that people really want, the the goal of that people really want, the the goal of that people really want, the the goal of all of this, whether you're an all of this, whether you're an all of this, whether you're an entertainer, whether you're an entertainer, whether you're an entertainer, whether you're an entrepreneur, is you want to make entrepreneur, is you want to make entrepreneur, is you want to make something that people want so badly that something that people want so badly that something that people want so badly that they'll pay some sort of price. So, they'll pay some sort of price. So, they'll pay some sort of price. So, there's some sort of like cultural hit there's some sort of like cultural hit there's some sort of like cultural hit >> to say, "No, no, no. I [ __ ] with Kanye. >> to say, "No, no, no. I [ __ ] with Kanye. >> to say, "No, no, no. I [ __ ] with Kanye. Like, he's great." Like, he's great." Like, he's great." >> Now, it's going to be like, "Oh, >> Now, it's going to be like, "Oh, >> Now, it's going to be like, "Oh, >> yeah." >> yeah." >> yeah." >> Like, there are going to be corners of >> Like, there are going to be corners of >> Like, there are going to be corners of the internet that are like, "Yo, like the internet that are like, "Yo, like the internet that are like, "Yo, like that guy supports Kanye. That is crazy." that guy supports Kanye. That is crazy." that guy supports Kanye. That is crazy." So, they're going to pay a price. But if So, they're going to pay a price. But if So, they're going to pay a price. But if they like it enough, they're still going they like it enough, they're still going they like it enough, they're still going to get behind it. to get behind it. to get behind it. >> And the same is true of an entrepreneur >> And the same is true of an entrepreneur >> And the same is true of an entrepreneur making a product, a comedian doing their making a product, a comedian doing their making a product, a comedian doing their thing, whatever. If you can make thing, whatever. If you can make thing, whatever. If you can make something that people are like, damn, something that people are like, damn, something that people are like, damn, like this is I mean, it goes back to like this is I mean, it goes back to like this is I mean, it goes back to consequentialism. If you can create that consequentialism. If you can create that consequentialism. If you can create that thing that makes people feel the thing thing that makes people feel the thing thing that makes people feel the thing that they want to feel, then you've got that they want to feel, then you've got that they want to feel, then you've got it's not a free pass because certainly it's not a free pass because certainly it's not a free pass because certainly there are things that um you make the there are things that um you make the there are things that um you make the bar so high to come back from that you bar so high to come back from that you bar so high to come back from that you just may not be able to do it. And I'd just may not be able to do it. And I'd just may not be able to do it. And I'd be very interested. I don't know if be very interested. I don't know if be very interested. I don't know if Kanye would have been able to make the Kanye would have been able to make the Kanye would have been able to make the comeback if he didn't first have the comeback if he didn't first have the comeback if he didn't first have the beat of I'm essentially I'm being a beat of I'm essentially I'm being a beat of I'm essentially I'm being a little bit uh glib here, but I'm back on little bit uh glib here, but I'm back on little bit uh glib here, but I'm back on my meds and I'm sorry about all the [ __ ] my meds and I'm sorry about all the [ __ ] my meds and I'm sorry about all the [ __ ] I said about Jews. If he didn't have I said about Jews. If he didn't have I said about Jews. If he didn't have that beat, if he didn't do the Maya, that beat, if he didn't do the Maya, that beat, if he didn't do the Maya, >> then he probably doesn't get the >> then he probably doesn't get the >> then he probably doesn't get the opportunity that he's getting now or it opportunity that he's getting now or it opportunity that he's getting now or it would be viewed through a different would be viewed through a different would be viewed through a different lens. But he does the mayulpa, puts his lens. But he does the mayulpa, puts his lens. But he does the mayulpa, puts his head down for a few months, and then head down for a few months, and then head down for a few months, and then like comes back with a real banger. Then like comes back with a real banger. Then like comes back with a real banger. Then it's like, yeah, you've got a shot. it's like, yeah, you've got a shot. it's like, yeah, you've got a shot. Humans are on mass. We are knowable. Humans are on mass. We are knowable. Humans are on mass. We are knowable. Like we respond to things in a certain Like we respond to things in a certain Like we respond to things in a certain way. Like if you go too high, we want to way. Like if you go too high, we want to way. Like if you go too high, we want to see you torn down. That's knowable. If see you torn down. That's knowable. If see you torn down. That's knowable. If you get torn down, we want to see you you get torn down, we want to see you you get torn down, we want to see you come back. That's knowable. If you come back. That's knowable. If you come back. That's knowable. If you apologize, but only in a certain way, apologize, but only in a certain way, apologize, but only in a certain way, then we'll give like a certain opening. then we'll give like a certain opening. then we'll give like a certain opening. If you apologize but in a weak way, then If you apologize but in a weak way, then If you apologize but in a weak way, then we like bury you forever. It's like we like bury you forever. It's like we like bury you forever. It's like really [ __ ] interesting. Um, so really [ __ ] interesting. Um, so really [ __ ] interesting. Um, so >> yeah, it's >> yeah, it's >> yeah, it's >> this is fascinating to watch. >> this is fascinating to watch. >> this is fascinating to watch. >> There's somebody put something on there >> There's somebody put something on there >> There's somebody put something on there and I want to put something else on the and I want to put something else on the and I want to put something else on the table because there is this floating table because there is this floating table because there is this floating brand morality, I'll call it, where, for brand morality, I'll call it, where, for brand morality, I'll call it, where, for example, Kanye can in uh issue a Wall example, Kanye can in uh issue a Wall example, Kanye can in uh issue a Wall Street Journal apology, say I'm on my Street Journal apology, say I'm on my Street Journal apology, say I'm on my meds, I was talking crazy, he gets meds, I was talking crazy, he gets meds, I was talking crazy, he gets allowed to do so again, hypothetically allowed to do so again, hypothetically allowed to do so again, hypothetically speaking, right? He also announced that speaking, right? He also announced that speaking, right? He also announced that he was highlight he was headlining the he was highlight he was headlining the he was highlight he was headlining the wireless festival in London in July. wireless festival in London in July. wireless festival in London in July. >> Pepsi recently just pulled out >> Pepsi recently just pulled out >> Pepsi recently just pulled out >> because of him >> because of him >> because of him >> because he was the uh headliner. Last >> because he was the uh headliner. Last >> because he was the uh headliner. Last year at the wireless festival it was a year at the wireless festival it was a year at the wireless festival it was a rapper called Central C. Literal rapper called Central C. Literal rapper called Central C. Literal murderer. Like literally like time for murderer. Like literally like time for murderer. Like literally like time for murder, murder, murder, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Pepsi, no problem. We're cool with the >> Pepsi, no problem. We're cool with the >> Pepsi, no problem. We're cool with the murder things. murder things. murder things. >> Somebody put it in the chat. There's so >> Somebody put it in the chat. There's so >> Somebody put it in the chat. There's so many people that are still cozing up many people that are still cozing up many people that are still cozing up with the Epstein class. There's so many with the Epstein class. There's so many with the Epstein class. There's so many people on the private sector that will people on the private sector that will people on the private sector that will still fund certain things in Mara Lago still fund certain things in Mara Lago still fund certain things in Mara Lago certain people in the administration certain people in the administration certain people in the administration like so there is this kind of floating like so there is this kind of floating like so there is this kind of floating like what you are associated with who like what you are associated with who like what you are associated with who and you do what now okay I could turn a and you do what now okay I could turn a and you do what now okay I could turn a blind eye to that this I can't turn a blind eye to that this I can't turn a blind eye to that this I can't turn a blind eye on how do people navigate that blind eye on how do people navigate that blind eye on how do people navigate that what seems like hypocrisy but I'll call what seems like hypocrisy but I'll call what seems like hypocrisy but I'll call it like a smoke it like a smoke it like a smoke >> seems like [laughter] >> seems like [laughter] >> seems like [laughter] >> this is humans baby >> this is humans baby >> this is humans baby >> okay >> okay >> okay >> hypocrisy is what we do so uh humans are >> hypocrisy is what we do so uh humans are >> hypocrisy is what we do so uh humans are selfish they will do whatever they want selfish they will do whatever they want selfish they will do whatever they want that makes them feel the way that they that makes them feel the way that they that makes them feel the way that they want to feel or advantages them in some want to feel or advantages them in some want to feel or advantages them in some way. way. way. >> Um, Trump will rightly cozy up to a >> Um, Trump will rightly cozy up to a >> Um, Trump will rightly cozy up to a dictator if he can get from that dictator if he can get from that dictator if he can get from that dictator what he needs. dictator what he needs. dictator what he needs. >> He desanctioned Russia's oil even though >> He desanctioned Russia's oil even though >> He desanctioned Russia's oil even though Russia is actively trying to kill Russia is actively trying to kill Russia is actively trying to kill Ukrainians and take over the country. Ukrainians and take over the country. Ukrainians and take over the country. Uh, he'll desension oil because that's Uh, he'll desension oil because that's Uh, he'll desension oil because that's what he needs to get done to make sure what he needs to get done to make sure what he needs to get done to make sure that things are good for America, that that things are good for America, that that things are good for America, that he's got a chance of getting reelected, he's got a chance of getting reelected, he's got a chance of getting reelected, that he helps other countries around the that he helps other countries around the that he helps other countries around the globe. Yep. it it's all the right thing globe. Yep. it it's all the right thing globe. Yep. it it's all the right thing in terms of like again in terms of like again in terms of like again >> consequentialism. I'm trying to get to >> consequentialism. I'm trying to get to >> consequentialism. I'm trying to get to that thriving middle class as I have that thriving middle class as I have that thriving middle class as I have described it and standing on your you described it and standing on your you described it and standing on your you know quote unquote morals as you know quote unquote morals as you know quote unquote morals as you continue to ice um Russia out that that continue to ice um Russia out that that continue to ice um Russia out that that doesn't make any sense. And so that's doesn't make any sense. And so that's doesn't make any sense. And so that's where it's like you've got to figure out where it's like you've got to figure out where it's like you've got to figure out what your actual value system is. Don't what your actual value system is. Don't what your actual value system is. Don't be pulled by fake value system. People be pulled by fake value system. People be pulled by fake value system. People are selfish. That's the invisible goal are selfish. That's the invisible goal are selfish. That's the invisible goal that they have that pulls them in that they have that pulls them in that they have that pulls them in directions that from the outside seems directions that from the outside seems directions that from the outside seems like hypocrisy. The real thing is when like hypocrisy. The real thing is when like hypocrisy. The real thing is when they were telling you like, "Oh, no, no, they were telling you like, "Oh, no, no, they were telling you like, "Oh, no, no, no. I don't do this, that, or the no. I don't do this, that, or the no. I don't do this, that, or the other." Like Pepsi, that's because they other." Like Pepsi, that's because they other." Like Pepsi, that's because they think it's what makes them money. So think it's what makes them money. So think it's what makes them money. So Pepsi is going to do whatever they Pepsi is going to do whatever they Pepsi is going to do whatever they believe is most profitable. Period. End believe is most profitable. Period. End believe is most profitable. Period. End of story. of story. of story. >> And they will, where it gets confusing >> And they will, where it gets confusing >> And they will, where it gets confusing is take Disney. They'll hire woke is take Disney. They'll hire woke is take Disney. They'll hire woke employees when they think that that's employees when they think that that's employees when they think that that's the most lucrative thing that they can the most lucrative thing that they can the most lucrative thing that they can do. And as soon as that starts being bad do. And as soon as that starts being bad do. And as soon as that starts being bad for business, then they're going to fire for business, then they're going to fire for business, then they're going to fire woke employees and they're going to woke employees and they're going to woke employees and they're going to start doing the thing that makes the start doing the thing that makes the start doing the thing that makes the most money. Now, there can be a five or most money. Now, there can be a five or most money. Now, there can be a five or six year window where it's like they six year window where it's like they six year window where it's like they don't really know like they've been don't really know like they've been don't really know like they've been working on this thing. It's probably working on this thing. It's probably working on this thing. It's probably better to still release it or there's so better to still release it or there's so better to still release it or there's so many woke executives that they can many woke executives that they can many woke executives that they can really fight in the company for a long really fight in the company for a long really fight in the company for a long time to try to control power. But I time to try to control power. But I time to try to control power. But I assure you that company is trying to do assure you that company is trying to do assure you that company is trying to do the things that it thinks will make it the things that it thinks will make it the things that it thinks will make it the most profitable. Period. End of the most profitable. Period. End of the most profitable. Period. End of story. It just is what it is. Same thing story. It just is what it is. Same thing story. It just is what it is. Same thing with countries. They'll be as moral as with countries. They'll be as moral as with countries. They'll be as moral as long as they can until something bad has long as they can until something bad has long as they can until something bad has happened to their country and then it's happened to their country and then it's happened to their country and then it's going to flip to oh actually psych just going to flip to oh actually psych just going to flip to oh actually psych just kidding like we're now take Germany kidding like we're now take Germany kidding like we're now take Germany after World War I. after World War I. after World War I. Uh we're going to liquefy Jews if that's Uh we're going to liquefy Jews if that's Uh we're going to liquefy Jews if that's what we have to do. Like we are going to what we have to do. Like we are going to what we have to do. Like we are going to get back on the world stage. We're going get back on the world stage. We're going get back on the world stage. We're going to build our military. We're going to to build our military. We're going to to build our military. We're going to become economically strong. And quite become economically strong. And quite become economically strong. And quite literally I will kill everyone that literally I will kill everyone that literally I will kill everyone that stands in my way. Like everyone. stands in my way. Like everyone. stands in my way. Like everyone. >> So that's humans. If people make the >> So that's humans. If people make the >> So that's humans. If people make the mistake of going, "Well, bro, that was mistake of going, "Well, bro, that was mistake of going, "Well, bro, that was just Hitler or that was just Germany." just Hitler or that was just Germany." just Hitler or that was just Germany." No, you're dumb. You don't understand No, you're dumb. You don't understand No, you're dumb. You don't understand people. Um, history is just replete. people. Um, history is just replete. people. Um, history is just replete. That's what humans do when backed into a That's what humans do when backed into a That's what humans do when backed into a corner. Period. Full stop. End of story. corner. Period. Full stop. End of story. corner. Period. Full stop. End of story. So, um, yeah, humans are selfish. So, um, yeah, humans are selfish. So, um, yeah, humans are selfish. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Oh, >> Oh, >> Oh, >> there was a button there. Something >> there was a button there. Something >> there was a button there. Something happened. I don't know what. happened. I don't know what. happened. I don't know what. >> Press the facto button. Nothing >> Press the facto button. Nothing >> Press the facto button. Nothing happened. But if happened. But if happened. But if >> it wasn't a rim shot, that would have >> it wasn't a rim shot, that would have >> it wasn't a rim shot, that would have been been been >> We are still uh testing the stream deck. >> We are still uh testing the stream deck. >> We are still uh testing the stream deck. All right. There was something else in All right. There was something else in All right. There was something else in culture that I wanted to get to. Um, culture that I wanted to get to. Um, culture that I wanted to get to. Um, Professor Jang, uh, with another banger. Professor Jang, uh, with another banger. Professor Jang, uh, with another banger. He's been, um, doing a lot of He's been, um, doing a lot of He's been, um, doing a lot of >> How is this guy just a high school >> How is this guy just a high school >> How is this guy just a high school teacher? teacher? teacher? >> Spiciness. Hey, I mean, and people were >> Spiciness. Hey, I mean, and people were >> Spiciness. Hey, I mean, and people were trying to dunk on him. Like, he went to trying to dunk on him. Like, he went to trying to dunk on him. Like, he went to Yale. He taught in like college, but I Yale. He taught in like college, but I Yale. He taught in like college, but I think he just went back home. think he just went back home. think he just went back home. >> I really want to go to China and hang >> I really want to go to China and hang >> I really want to go to China and hang out with this guy for real, for real. out with this guy for real, for real. out with this guy for real, for real. All capital letters. It is only because All capital letters. It is only because All capital letters. It is only because I talk so much [ __ ] on China and I'm I talk so much [ __ ] on China and I'm I talk so much [ __ ] on China and I'm wealthy that I'm worried about going. wealthy that I'm worried about going. wealthy that I'm worried about going. >> We just can't film anything. It has to >> We just can't film anything. It has to >> We just can't film anything. It has to be all iPhone photography. be all iPhone photography. be all iPhone photography. >> I don't know if I'd buy it, but I really >> I don't know if I'd buy it, but I really >> I don't know if I'd buy it, but I really do want to go. First of all, I find him do want to go. First of all, I find him do want to go. First of all, I find him incredibly interesting. Um, but anyway, incredibly interesting. Um, but anyway, incredibly interesting. Um, but anyway, so Professor Gang sitting down with so Professor Gang sitting down with so Professor Gang sitting down with Sneo. Sneo. Sneo. >> Um, and he had this statement to make. >> Um, and he had this statement to make. >> Um, and he had this statement to make. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. >> So muted. >> So muted. >> So muted. >> Is that on the computer laptop side? >> Is that on the computer laptop side? >> Is that on the computer laptop side? >> I've been to a lot of countries in >> I've been to a lot of countries in >> I've been to a lot of countries in >> uh guys, can you hear him? We cannot in >> uh guys, can you hear him? We cannot in >> uh guys, can you hear him? We cannot in house. I've been a lot of question. house. I've been a lot of question. house. I've been a lot of question. >> And I would say that America is probably >> And I would say that America is probably >> And I would say that America is probably the least racist. the least racist. the least racist. >> Pause it for a sec. >> Pause it for a sec. >> Pause it for a sec. >> The volume is uh audio thumbs up. Give >> The volume is uh audio thumbs up. Give >> The volume is uh audio thumbs up. Give us something in the chat, guys. us something in the chat, guys. us something in the chat, guys. >> I don't see anybody. Oh, we hear we hear >> I don't see anybody. Oh, we hear we hear >> I don't see anybody. Oh, we hear we hear I can hear. Okay, cool. So, we can't. I can hear. Okay, cool. So, we can't. I can hear. Okay, cool. So, we can't. But uh I vaguely remember what he said. But uh I vaguely remember what he said. But uh I vaguely remember what he said. Here we go. Going to play it from the Here we go. Going to play it from the Here we go. Going to play it from the >> uh issue. But what I'll also say is that >> uh issue. But what I'll also say is that >> uh issue. But what I'll also say is that I've been a lot of countries in the I've been a lot of countries in the I've been a lot of countries in the world, and I would say that America is world, and I would say that America is world, and I would say that America is probably the least racist country in the probably the least racist country in the probably the least racist country in the world. Uh because regardless of world. Uh because regardless of world. Uh because regardless of uh America's racist past, Americans have uh America's racist past, Americans have uh America's racist past, Americans have deep respect for hard work and for deep respect for hard work and for deep respect for hard work and for talent. America is the only country in talent. America is the only country in talent. America is the only country in the world where you can come as a nobody the world where you can come as a nobody the world where you can come as a nobody and work really hard, open a restaurant and work really hard, open a restaurant and work really hard, open a restaurant and be a millionaire. And and I know and be a millionaire. And and I know and be a millionaire. And and I know because my relatives have done so. because my relatives have done so. because my relatives have done so. >> Um and you couldn't do that in China. >> Um and you couldn't do that in China. >> Um and you couldn't do that in China. You couldn't do that in Europe. You You couldn't do that in Europe. You You couldn't do that in Europe. You couldn't do that anywhere else. Um, so couldn't do that anywhere else. Um, so couldn't do that anywhere else. Um, so yeah, I understand that there is a yeah, I understand that there is a yeah, I understand that there is a racist past in America. There there's a racist past in America. There there's a racist past in America. There there's a past of slavery. Uh, there's a pass of past of slavery. Uh, there's a pass of past of slavery. Uh, there's a pass of genocide. genocide. genocide. >> All right, I feel like we get the point. >> All right, I feel like we get the point. >> All right, I feel like we get the point. What he's saying is America's the is the What he's saying is America's the is the What he's saying is America's the is the least racist uh country in the world least racist uh country in the world least racist uh country in the world because you can come here. They reward because you can come here. They reward because you can come here. They reward hard work. You won't be isolated from hard work. You won't be isolated from hard work. You won't be isolated from pursuing your higher opportunities, I pursuing your higher opportunities, I pursuing your higher opportunities, I guess we can call it. guess we can call it. guess we can call it. >> Yep. So, I think this is uh where one >> Yep. So, I think this is uh where one >> Yep. So, I think this is uh where one you have to separate systemic racism you have to separate systemic racism you have to separate systemic racism that's actually baked into a system that's actually baked into a system that's actually baked into a system designed to stop people designed to stop people designed to stop people >> uh and then on the street you don't look >> uh and then on the street you don't look >> uh and then on the street you don't look like me and so I'm going to give you like me and so I'm going to give you like me and so I'm going to give you some [ __ ] some [ __ ] some [ __ ] >> Uh needless to say, the community is >> Uh needless to say, the community is >> Uh needless to say, the community is going to want to hear your take on going to want to hear your take on going to want to hear your take on whether as the CEO of the black whether as the CEO of the black whether as the CEO of the black community, Drew, which we have not community, Drew, which we have not community, Drew, which we have not talked nearly enough about that. talked nearly enough about that. talked nearly enough about that. >> Not even I got impeached. >> Not even I got impeached. >> Not even I got impeached. >> You got impeached. So, as the man who >> You got impeached. So, as the man who >> You got impeached. So, as the man who brought it up, brought it up, brought it up, >> tell tell us about it, Drew. >> tell tell us about it, Drew. >> tell tell us about it, Drew. >> Uh, I feel like you just taugh you >> Uh, I feel like you just taugh you >> Uh, I feel like you just taugh you tossed me a hot potato. I was like, here tossed me a hot potato. I was like, here tossed me a hot potato. I was like, here here you got it. You got it, Drew. Take here you got it. You got it, Drew. Take here you got it. You got it, Drew. Take it. it. it. >> I like to think I gave you the nuclear >> I like to think I gave you the nuclear >> I like to think I gave you the nuclear football. [laughter] football. [laughter] football. [laughter] >> You can hand it back, but we do we do >> You can hand it back, but we do we do >> You can hand it back, but we do we do need to hear your take on this. need to hear your take on this. need to hear your take on this. >> I to that point, yes, there are >> I to that point, yes, there are >> I to that point, yes, there are different lines. I think that when it different lines. I think that when it different lines. I think that when it comes to the core of race in America, I comes to the core of race in America, I comes to the core of race in America, I want them to I want everybody just to want them to I want everybody just to want them to I want everybody just to realize America has done something very realize America has done something very realize America has done something very unique when it comes to race. America unique when it comes to race. America unique when it comes to race. America has a very different set like view of has a very different set like view of has a very different set like view of race versus the rest of the world. At race versus the rest of the world. At race versus the rest of the world. At America, it's just at the skin color America, it's just at the skin color America, it's just at the skin color level. So there can be doesn't matter level. So there can be doesn't matter level. So there can be doesn't matter your heritage and all these things. If your heritage and all these things. If your heritage and all these things. If you are a certain skin tone, you get you are a certain skin tone, you get you are a certain skin tone, you get treated a certain way historically. In treated a certain way historically. In treated a certain way historically. In other parts of the world, it could be a other parts of the world, it could be a other parts of the world, it could be a group of white people arguing and they group of white people arguing and they group of white people arguing and they are racist against each other, but I'm are racist against each other, but I'm are racist against each other, but I'm racist because you are Irish and and I'm racist because you are Irish and and I'm racist because you are Irish and and I'm English and you are. So it's different English and you are. So it's different English and you are. So it's different types of things. So there are that types of things. So there are that types of things. So there are that nuance in that minutia completely nuance in that minutia completely nuance in that minutia completely separated from America. I think what the separated from America. I think what the separated from America. I think what the professor is saying in this clip is less professor is saying in this clip is less professor is saying in this clip is less about racism as the hot pocket, about racism as the hot pocket, about racism as the hot pocket, the hot trigger word that it is for us the hot trigger word that it is for us the hot trigger word that it is for us that when we hear race, we think of skin that when we hear race, we think of skin that when we hear race, we think of skin color and things like that. And I'm color and things like that. And I'm color and things like that. And I'm saying it's more of like an opportunity saying it's more of like an opportunity saying it's more of like an opportunity thing where you can go to America and thing where you can go to America and thing where you can go to America and you are allowed to navigate the country you are allowed to navigate the country you are allowed to navigate the country as you see fit. We just talking about as you see fit. We just talking about as you see fit. We just talking about China. You can't just go to China and China. You can't just go to China and China. You can't just go to China and start a podcast. What are you doing? Who start a podcast. What are you doing? Who start a podcast. What are you doing? Who are you talking to? You don't have that are you talking to? You don't have that are you talking to? You don't have that level. level. level. >> Don't be weaguer. >> Don't be weaguer. >> Don't be weaguer. >> Don't be weaguer. >> Don't be weaguer. >> Don't be weaguer. >> You know what I So there's certain >> You know what I So there's certain >> You know what I So there's certain things that you can't show up in other things that you can't show up in other things that you can't show up in other America in other countries and just be America in other countries and just be America in other countries and just be as you can in America. And to that as you can in America. And to that as you can in America. And to that standpoint, I do agree that yes, America standpoint, I do agree that yes, America standpoint, I do agree that yes, America does have that most freedom. But there's does have that most freedom. But there's does have that most freedom. But there's a bunch of other things that America I a bunch of other things that America I a bunch of other things that America I think needs to come to focus, come to think needs to come to focus, come to think needs to come to focus, come to terms with. I think we have a very we do terms with. I think we have a very we do terms with. I think we have a very we do a very good job of romanticizing the a very good job of romanticizing the a very good job of romanticizing the past and only talking about the positive past and only talking about the positive past and only talking about the positive outcome versus some of the mal intent outcome versus some of the mal intent outcome versus some of the mal intent that caused that positive outcome. For that caused that positive outcome. For that caused that positive outcome. For example, segregation didn't end because example, segregation didn't end because example, segregation didn't end because white people were like, "You know what? white people were like, "You know what? white people were like, "You know what? We should be nicer to black people. It We should be nicer to black people. It We should be nicer to black people. It ended because Alabama was almost ended because Alabama was almost ended because Alabama was almost bankrupt because of the Montgomery B uh bankrupt because of the Montgomery B uh bankrupt because of the Montgomery B uh bus company." Abraham Lincoln didn't bus company." Abraham Lincoln didn't bus company." Abraham Lincoln didn't save the slaves because he was like, "I save the slaves because he was like, "I save the slaves because he was like, "I feel bad for all the black people. Let feel bad for all the black people. Let feel bad for all the black people. Let me go help them." He wanted to [ __ ] me go help them." He wanted to [ __ ] me go help them." He wanted to [ __ ] the southern economy. So, there are the southern economy. So, there are the southern economy. So, there are certain things that was ending slavery certain things that was ending slavery certain things that was ending slavery was a in in a sense a sanction during a was a in in a sense a sanction during a was a in in a sense a sanction during a civil war. So there are certain economic civil war. So there are certain economic civil war. So there are certain economic motivators that lead to a conversation motivators that lead to a conversation motivators that lead to a conversation that can help people morally, but I that can help people morally, but I that can help people morally, but I don't want people to be blinded to think don't want people to be blinded to think don't want people to be blinded to think that we were just like, hm, I want to that we were just like, hm, I want to that we were just like, hm, I want to help people. Let me go help people. help people. Let me go help people. help people. Let me go help people. >> There's always got to be some, you know, >> There's always got to be some, you know, >> There's always got to be some, you know, >> agreed. There's also though some people >> agreed. There's also though some people >> agreed. There's also though some people really did just think this is inhuman. really did just think this is inhuman. really did just think this is inhuman. And this goes back to the roots of this And this goes back to the roots of this And this goes back to the roots of this nation under Christianity where it's nation under Christianity where it's nation under Christianity where it's like that was a ticking time bomb in the like that was a ticking time bomb in the like that was a ticking time bomb in the psyche of the country of like wait how psyche of the country of like wait how psyche of the country of like wait how are we justifying you look at the Bible are we justifying you look at the Bible are we justifying you look at the Bible es the New Testament I get the Old es the New Testament I get the Old es the New Testament I get the Old Testament it's a little slave endorsing Testament it's a little slave endorsing Testament it's a little slave endorsing but you look at the New Testament and but you look at the New Testament and but you look at the New Testament and it's it's it's >> um going to push you in the outcome that >> um going to push you in the outcome that >> um going to push you in the outcome that we ended up seeing. Now the part that we ended up seeing. Now the part that we ended up seeing. Now the part that feels like humans aren't being honest feels like humans aren't being honest feels like humans aren't being honest about what our wiring is like is we have about what our wiring is like is we have about what our wiring is like is we have school of fish mentality. So we are school of fish mentality. So we are school of fish mentality. So we are wired to look at the world and say this wired to look at the world and say this wired to look at the world and say this is me and mine and that is the other and is me and mine and that is the other and is me and mine and that is the other and the other poses a threat. the other poses a threat. the other poses a threat. >> And so if you want to um make somebody >> And so if you want to um make somebody >> And so if you want to um make somebody prepared to kill somebody else, you have prepared to kill somebody else, you have prepared to kill somebody else, you have to make them the other. So yeah, they to make them the other. So yeah, they to make them the other. So yeah, they might be white like you, but they're might be white like you, but they're might be white like you, but they're German and you're American. kill, kill, German and you're American. kill, kill, German and you're American. kill, kill, kill. And so you can very easily get kill. And so you can very easily get kill. And so you can very easily get somebody to other somebody based on a somebody to other somebody based on a somebody to other somebody based on a whole bunch of criteria. Religion, um, whole bunch of criteria. Religion, um, whole bunch of criteria. Religion, um, Irish killing Irish, Catholic versus Irish killing Irish, Catholic versus Irish killing Irish, Catholic versus Protestant. Protestant. Protestant. >> It it would be absolutely no comfort >> It it would be absolutely no comfort >> It it would be absolutely no comfort whatsoever to somebody then that was whatsoever to somebody then that was whatsoever to somebody then that was like, well, at least the Irish aren't like, well, at least the Irish aren't like, well, at least the Irish aren't prejudice against your skin color prejudice against your skin color prejudice against your skin color >> as they bomb you or your family. You'd >> as they bomb you or your family. You'd >> as they bomb you or your family. You'd be like, why would I care about that? be like, why would I care about that? be like, why would I care about that? >> They're still killing me. They're still >> They're still killing me. They're still >> They're still killing me. They're still killing my family. Like so I care deeply killing my family. Like so I care deeply killing my family. Like so I care deeply about that. So as long as humans have about that. So as long as humans have about that. So as long as humans have the wiring for school of fish, we are the wiring for school of fish, we are the wiring for school of fish, we are going to at times group up especially going to at times group up especially going to at times group up especially given that we're a melting pot. So we've given that we're a melting pot. So we've given that we're a melting pot. So we've got cultures from all over the world got cultures from all over the world got cultures from all over the world coming together that look all kinds of coming together that look all kinds of coming together that look all kinds of different and then we go ah yes this is different and then we go ah yes this is different and then we go ah yes this is I'm on a team in this environment. Who's I'm on a team in this environment. Who's I'm on a team in this environment. Who's on my team? Who's not on my team? And on my team? Who's not on my team? And on my team? Who's not on my team? And can I tell immediately? And so it's like can I tell immediately? And so it's like can I tell immediately? And so it's like you can tell real fast if somebody is a you can tell real fast if somebody is a you can tell real fast if somebody is a different ethnicity than you. And so different ethnicity than you. And so different ethnicity than you. And so that one's just always going to be the that one's just always going to be the that one's just always going to be the odds. You'll never get to zero racism odds. You'll never get to zero racism odds. You'll never get to zero racism the world over unless you're able to the world over unless you're able to the world over unless you're able to augment our genes or augment our actual augment our genes or augment our actual augment our genes or augment our actual physical bodies through technology to physical bodies through technology to physical bodies through technology to erase the impacts of that group up erase the impacts of that group up erase the impacts of that group up inroup outgroup phenomenon. inroup outgroup phenomenon. inroup outgroup phenomenon. >> It's just wired into the human psyche. >> It's just wired into the human psyche. >> It's just wired into the human psyche. >> Yeah. And but you're saying that across >> Yeah. And but you're saying that across >> Yeah. And but you're saying that across all you there's always gonna be all you there's always gonna be all you there's always gonna be misogyny. There's gonna be Yeah. Like misogyny. There's gonna be Yeah. Like misogyny. There's gonna be Yeah. Like it's it's it's >> the way that I think about racism in >> the way that I think about racism in >> the way that I think about racism in Japan is the way that I wish Americans Japan is the way that I wish Americans Japan is the way that I wish Americans thought about racism here, which is thought about racism here, which is thought about racism here, which is Yeah. This is a fundamental part of the Yeah. This is a fundamental part of the Yeah. This is a fundamental part of the human psyche. So I get right now I'm on human psyche. So I get right now I'm on human psyche. So I get right now I'm on the outside of this group. And so rather the outside of this group. And so rather the outside of this group. And so rather than um spending all my time being than um spending all my time being than um spending all my time being obsessed with the fact that if I were obsessed with the fact that if I were obsessed with the fact that if I were living in Japan that I'm going to be living in Japan that I'm going to be living in Japan that I'm going to be treated differently, treated differently, treated differently, >> I'm either going to say, "Okay, do I >> I'm either going to say, "Okay, do I >> I'm either going to say, "Okay, do I want to be here or do I want to go want to be here or do I want to go want to be here or do I want to go somewhere else? Do I want to is racism somewhere else? Do I want to is racism somewhere else? Do I want to is racism to the point where I need to find a way to the point where I need to find a way to the point where I need to find a way around this or is this something that around this or is this something that around this or is this something that it's like, okay, yep, I'm going to it's like, okay, yep, I'm going to it's like, okay, yep, I'm going to encounter this every now and then. encounter this every now and then. encounter this every now and then. That's a limitation of the human mind. That's a limitation of the human mind. That's a limitation of the human mind. I'm just not going to spend my time I'm just not going to spend my time I'm just not going to spend my time thinking about it. Because the more thinking about it. Because the more thinking about it. Because the more time, as we're finding out with more time, as we're finding out with more time, as we're finding out with more studies coming out about therapy, the studies coming out about therapy, the studies coming out about therapy, the more you ruminate on something, the more more you ruminate on something, the more more you ruminate on something, the more you hardwire it in your brain, the more you hardwire it in your brain, the more you hardwire it in your brain, the more it's hardwired in your brain, the more it's hardwired in your brain, the more it's hardwired in your brain, the more you see it, reticular activating system, you see it, reticular activating system, you see it, reticular activating system, like you can just become obsessed with like you can just become obsessed with like you can just become obsessed with that. And if you look for it in an that. And if you look for it in an that. And if you look for it in an obsessive way, you're going to find it obsessive way, you're going to find it obsessive way, you're going to find it in an obsessive way. And so, the more we in an obsessive way. And so, the more we in an obsessive way. And so, the more we lean into it culturally, it actually lean into it culturally, it actually lean into it culturally, it actually becomes a bigger problem. And so, the becomes a bigger problem. And so, the becomes a bigger problem. And so, the more people can dissipate it, be like, more people can dissipate it, be like, more people can dissipate it, be like, "Yes, that's a thing, but I'm not going "Yes, that's a thing, but I'm not going "Yes, that's a thing, but I'm not going to think about it. I'm not going to to think about it. I'm not going to to think about it. I'm not going to focus on it. I'm either going to work focus on it. I'm either going to work focus on it. I'm either going to work around it, go somewhere else, whatever. around it, go somewhere else, whatever. around it, go somewhere else, whatever. >> Um like there are especially now >> Um like there are especially now >> Um like there are especially now hopefully I can get people to agree that hopefully I can get people to agree that hopefully I can get people to agree that yes, there was a time where um the black yes, there was a time where um the black yes, there was a time where um the black community was it's a very good strategy community was it's a very good strategy community was it's a very good strategy working only within the black community, working only within the black community, working only within the black community, banks for blacks, stock market for banks for blacks, stock market for banks for blacks, stock market for blacks, and then those were firebombed blacks, and then those were firebombed blacks, and then those were firebombed and [ __ ] attack. That's not going to and [ __ ] attack. That's not going to and [ __ ] attack. That's not going to happen now. happen now. happen now. >> And so if that's a strategy that people >> And so if that's a strategy that people >> And so if that's a strategy that people want to run, yeah, do it. Like um what's want to run, yeah, do it. Like um what's want to run, yeah, do it. Like um what's his name? What is his name? Magic his name? What is his name? Magic his name? What is his name? Magic Johnson. Johnson. Johnson. >> Dude, homeboy got rich going into the >> Dude, homeboy got rich going into the >> Dude, homeboy got rich going into the essentially black community. Now it essentially black community. Now it essentially black community. Now it would be probably way more Hispanic, but would be probably way more Hispanic, but would be probably way more Hispanic, but when he started it would have been when he started it would have been when he started it would have been largely black areas and saying these largely black areas and saying these largely black areas and saying these guys are underserved, but there's like guys are underserved, but there's like guys are underserved, but there's like if I can bring them cool experiences, if I can bring them cool experiences, if I can bring them cool experiences, movie theaters, stores, things like movie theaters, stores, things like movie theaters, stores, things like that. Then I can make a ton of money and that. Then I can make a ton of money and that. Then I can make a ton of money and do something rad for them. do something rad for them. do something rad for them. >> And that's like it is a wonderful >> And that's like it is a wonderful >> And that's like it is a wonderful strategy that made him I think he's a strategy that made him I think he's a strategy that made him I think he's a billionaire. I mean made him insanely billionaire. I mean made him insanely billionaire. I mean made him insanely wealthy. Um, so that would be my advice wealthy. Um, so that would be my advice wealthy. Um, so that would be my advice to people is the more you think about to people is the more you think about to people is the more you think about it, the bigger a problem it actually it, the bigger a problem it actually it, the bigger a problem it actually becomes and the more you just go cool, becomes and the more you just go cool, becomes and the more you just go cool, this is the lay of the land. How do I this is the lay of the land. How do I this is the lay of the land. How do I deal with it? Then you can be you can deal with it? Then you can be you can deal with it? Then you can be you can find a path through that is find a path through that is find a path through that is extraordinarily positive in its outcome. extraordinarily positive in its outcome. extraordinarily positive in its outcome. >> Have you been following Mark Andre's >> Have you been following Mark Andre's >> Have you been following Mark Andre's like tweets lately about the like tweets lately about the like tweets lately about the selfobsession and like selfobsession and like selfobsession and like >> not on that topic in particular >> not on that topic in particular >> not on that topic in particular >> when he was talking about he doesn't >> when he was talking about he doesn't >> when he was talking about he doesn't ruminate about things. He kind of moves ruminate about things. He kind of moves ruminate about things. He kind of moves on like the on like the on like the >> So are you would you be in that camp >> So are you would you be in that camp >> So are you would you be in that camp that internal self-reflection? You can that internal self-reflection? You can that internal self-reflection? You can overdo that and you should have a overdo that and you should have a overdo that and you should have a >> you become what you repeat. So phase one >> you become what you repeat. So phase one >> you become what you repeat. So phase one of my entire YouTube career was trying of my entire YouTube career was trying of my entire YouTube career was trying to get people to understand you become to get people to understand you become to get people to understand you become what you repeat. So if you're repeating what you repeat. So if you're repeating what you repeat. So if you're repeating a bunch that will be literally from a a bunch that will be literally from a a bunch that will be literally from a caloric standpoint, it will become the caloric standpoint, it will become the caloric standpoint, it will become the easiest thing to think and feel. So what easiest thing to think and feel. So what easiest thing to think and feel. So what do you want to be the easiest thing to do you want to be the easiest thing to do you want to be the easiest thing to think and feel? If it's resentment, think and feel? If it's resentment, think and feel? If it's resentment, bitterness, anger, all of that, then bitterness, anger, all of that, then bitterness, anger, all of that, then loop on that. Otherwise, as I remind loop on that. Otherwise, as I remind loop on that. Otherwise, as I remind myself constantly, I cannot stop myself myself constantly, I cannot stop myself myself constantly, I cannot stop myself from having the first thought, but I can from having the first thought, but I can from having the first thought, but I can stop myself from repeating that thought. stop myself from repeating that thought. stop myself from repeating that thought. And so, I will literally just do a And so, I will literally just do a And so, I will literally just do a pattern interrupt in my brain like with pattern interrupt in my brain like with pattern interrupt in my brain like with overwhelm. I don't do overwhelm. So, if overwhelm. I don't do overwhelm. So, if overwhelm. I don't do overwhelm. So, if I feel myself starting to get I feel myself starting to get I feel myself starting to get overwhelmed, I say I don't do overwhelm, overwhelmed, I say I don't do overwhelm, overwhelmed, I say I don't do overwhelm, stop. Nope. And then the actual act of stop. Nope. And then the actual act of stop. Nope. And then the actual act of just saying I don't do that causes that just saying I don't do that causes that just saying I don't do that causes that to dissipate. It's pretty fascinating. to dissipate. It's pretty fascinating. to dissipate. It's pretty fascinating. So yes, all the mindset stuff that I've So yes, all the mindset stuff that I've So yes, all the mindset stuff that I've ever talked about, it's all real. I just ever talked about, it's all real. I just ever talked about, it's all real. I just don't talk about it anymore because god, don't talk about it anymore because god, don't talk about it anymore because god, I've said it so many times. It really I've said it so many times. It really I've said it so many times. It really just got boring. And I figure that the just got boring. And I figure that the just got boring. And I figure that the people that are going to do something people that are going to do something people that are going to do something with it are already doing something and with it are already doing something and with it are already doing something and those videos still exist if you want to those videos still exist if you want to those videos still exist if you want to go watch them. But yeah, be careful what go watch them. But yeah, be careful what go watch them. But yeah, be careful what you repeat. you repeat. you repeat. >> Cool. We got more super chats. >> Cool. We got more super chats. >> Cool. We got more super chats. >> Yep. Jeffrey says, "Tom and Drew, since >> Yep. Jeffrey says, "Tom and Drew, since >> Yep. Jeffrey says, "Tom and Drew, since you're reading on Indians, fact check you're reading on Indians, fact check you're reading on Indians, fact check Matt Walsh's real history docs. At 50, I Matt Walsh's real history docs. At 50, I Matt Walsh's real history docs. At 50, I feel brainwashed by Safe History versus feel brainwashed by Safe History versus feel brainwashed by Safe History versus Total War. Hard Times create strong men. Total War. Hard Times create strong men. Total War. Hard Times create strong men. Is the data real? Deep dive. Is the data real? Deep dive. Is the data real? Deep dive. >> That's interesting. I don't know enough >> That's interesting. I don't know enough >> That's interesting. I don't know enough about This is Matt Walsh, the Matt Walsh about This is Matt Walsh, the Matt Walsh about This is Matt Walsh, the Matt Walsh of Daily Wire. of Daily Wire. of Daily Wire. >> Uh, I would assume so is what they're >> Uh, I would assume so is what they're >> Uh, I would assume so is what they're talking about. talking about. talking about. >> Uh, so I don't know anything about his >> Uh, so I don't know anything about his >> Uh, so I don't know anything about his take on Native Americans, but I've read take on Native Americans, but I've read take on Native Americans, but I've read now so many books on the subject. Feel now so many books on the subject. Feel now so many books on the subject. Feel like I have a pretty good take. Um, so like I have a pretty good take. Um, so like I have a pretty good take. Um, so yes, if what you're calling total war is yes, if what you're calling total war is yes, if what you're calling total war is either you guys back down and go on your either you guys back down and go on your either you guys back down and go on your reservations or you all die, that is reservations or you all die, that is reservations or you all die, that is certainly the strategy that we ran. Now, certainly the strategy that we ran. Now, certainly the strategy that we ran. Now, in fairness, this was a two-way street. in fairness, this was a two-way street. in fairness, this was a two-way street. It's just we had way better weaponry and It's just we had way better weaponry and It's just we had way better weaponry and better diseases. Uh, so we're able to better diseases. Uh, so we're able to better diseases. Uh, so we're able to get get get >> diseases. Diseases like you've never >> diseases. Diseases like you've never >> diseases. Diseases like you've never seen anywhere else. seen anywhere else. seen anywhere else. >> Was there ever seen anything like >> Was there ever seen anything like >> Was there ever seen anything like [laughter] it? These diseases were [laughter] it? These diseases were [laughter] it? These diseases were killing everybody. Yes, it was good. killing everybody. Yes, it was good. killing everybody. Yes, it was good. Thank you, Drew, for that. That was Thank you, Drew, for that. That was Thank you, Drew, for that. That was wonderful. [laughter] wonderful. [laughter] wonderful. [laughter] Uh yeah, but that is the sad brutal Uh yeah, but that is the sad brutal Uh yeah, but that is the sad brutal history. And man, if even just read history. And man, if even just read history. And man, if even just read about Native Americans killing Native about Native Americans killing Native about Native Americans killing Native Americans, like there was plenty of Americans, like there was plenty of Americans, like there was plenty of brutality long before um Westerners brutality long before um Westerners brutality long before um Westerners arrived. But when they came, they really arrived. But when they came, they really arrived. But when they came, they really took that to a new level. took that to a new level. took that to a new level. >> Also, I looked it up. He was talking >> Also, I looked it up. He was talking >> Also, I looked it up. He was talking about Matt Walsh. He has some about Matt Walsh. He has some about Matt Walsh. He has some documentary. documentary. documentary. >> Native Americans or the conquest of >> Native Americans or the conquest of >> Native Americans or the conquest of America. Uh, I didn't see specifically America. Uh, I didn't see specifically America. Uh, I didn't see specifically what it's about, but it's a Daily Wire what it's about, but it's a Daily Wire what it's about, but it's a Daily Wire Plus mini doc he made. So, it's either Plus mini doc he made. So, it's either Plus mini doc he made. So, it's either about a multitude of things or maybe about a multitude of things or maybe about a multitude of things or maybe that's the main focus, but that's the main focus, but that's the main focus, but >> okay. Question things says, "I was an >> okay. Question things says, "I was an >> okay. Question things says, "I was an English and critical thinking teacher. I English and critical thinking teacher. I English and critical thinking teacher. I just want to say thanks for this show. just want to say thanks for this show. just want to say thanks for this show. Teaching critical thinking skills is a Teaching critical thinking skills is a Teaching critical thinking skills is a lifelong passion of mine. We have to be lifelong passion of mine. We have to be lifelong passion of mine. We have to be the examples to the world and multiply." the examples to the world and multiply." the examples to the world and multiply." >> I love that. Thank you very much for >> I love that. Thank you very much for >> I love that. Thank you very much for that. Uh, that's exactly what we want that. Uh, that's exactly what we want that. Uh, that's exactly what we want this to be. So, preach and then Okie this to be. So, preach and then Okie this to be. So, preach and then Okie dokie self, you were correct. My Trump dokie self, you were correct. My Trump dokie self, you were correct. My Trump impression is terrible. [laughter] impression is terrible. [laughter] impression is terrible. [laughter] >> Uh Lisa's is great. >> Uh Lisa's is great. >> Uh Lisa's is great. >> China. >> China. >> China. >> It is. Play it. >> It is. Play it. >> It is. Play it. >> China. >> China. >> China. >> I have the China button. >> I have the China button. >> I have the China button. >> China. >> China. >> China. >> Oh, so they they hear all the good >> Oh, so they they hear all the good >> Oh, so they they hear all the good stuff. We just don't get to hear us in stuff. We just don't get to hear us in stuff. We just don't get to hear us in China. China. China. >> They're like, "What's happening?" >> They're like, "What's happening?" >> They're like, "What's happening?" [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> Um, cool. And Thursday's the day. >> Um, cool. And Thursday's the day. >> Um, cool. And Thursday's the day. >> Thursday is the day, boys and girls. >> Thursday is the day, boys and girls. >> Thursday is the day, boys and girls. 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