A Beheading In Belfast, A Guilty Verdict In Texas, And More Bombs Over Iran

We have got a hot and spicy one for you We have got a hot and spicy one for you today, much to my dismay, but Iran shot today, much to my dismay, but Iran shot today, much to my dismay, but Iran shot down a US helicopter. They said they down a US helicopter. They said they down a US helicopter. They said they didn't do it on purpose, but that was didn't do it on purpose, but that was didn't do it on purpose, but that was not taken well by Trump. So, that not taken well by Trump. So, that not taken well by Trump. So, that prompted a series of US retaliatory prompted a series of US retaliatory prompted a series of US retaliatory strikes on Iran. And I think anybody strikes on Iran. And I think anybody strikes on Iran. And I think anybody saying that we're in the middle of a saying that we're in the middle of a saying that we're in the middle of a ceasefire right now is not paying close ceasefire right now is not paying close ceasefire right now is not paying close enough attention. So, we're going to see enough attention. So, we're going to see enough attention. So, we're going to see just how far that escalates. Carmemelllo just how far that escalates. Carmemelllo just how far that escalates. Carmemelllo Anthony was convicted of murder and Anthony was convicted of murder and Anthony was convicted of murder and sentenced to 35 years and tensions sentenced to 35 years and tensions sentenced to 35 years and tensions erupted outside the court. Many are erupted outside the court. Many are erupted outside the court. Many are focusing on the race aspect of this. focusing on the race aspect of this. focusing on the race aspect of this. We're going to dive into that. A Sudin We're going to dive into that. A Sudin We're going to dive into that. A Sudin immigrant in Belfast, Ireland did immigrant in Belfast, Ireland did immigrant in Belfast, Ireland did something absolutely horrific. He pinned something absolutely horrific. He pinned something absolutely horrific. He pinned down a man, blinded both eyes with a down a man, blinded both eyes with a down a man, blinded both eyes with a knife, and then hacked at the man knife, and then hacked at the man knife, and then hacked at the man several times, prompting several times, prompting several times, prompting anti-immigration riots in Belfast. the anti-immigration riots in Belfast. the anti-immigration riots in Belfast. the California voting graphs continue to California voting graphs continue to California voting graphs continue to look just absolutely crazy. And I'll say look just absolutely crazy. And I'll say look just absolutely crazy. And I'll say if nobody else is calling for audits. I if nobody else is calling for audits. I if nobody else is calling for audits. I will. Uh I certainly want to see uh one, will. Uh I certainly want to see uh one, will. Uh I certainly want to see uh one, if we're going to believe in what we if we're going to believe in what we if we're going to believe in what we see, we're going to need to have the see, we're going to need to have the see, we're going to need to have the government go in and do an audit. And government go in and do an audit. And government go in and do an audit. And I've got a take on this that I think is I've got a take on this that I think is I've got a take on this that I think is very different than what most people are very different than what most people are very different than what most people are saying. Uh so we will cover that. saying. Uh so we will cover that. saying. Uh so we will cover that. Argentina has managed to deliver a Argentina has managed to deliver a Argentina has managed to deliver a budget surplus, making them one of only budget surplus, making them one of only budget surplus, making them one of only five countries to do so. Absolutely five countries to do so. Absolutely five countries to do so. Absolutely incredible turnaround there under Malay incredible turnaround there under Malay incredible turnaround there under Malay and just uh capitalistic principles. So and just uh capitalistic principles. So and just uh capitalistic principles. So I love to see it. I love to see a I love to see it. I love to see a I love to see it. I love to see a country that struggled for that long get country that struggled for that long get country that struggled for that long get back on its feet. We'll of course be back on its feet. We'll of course be back on its feet. We'll of course be diving into the economic realities diving into the economic realities diving into the economic realities there. Speaking of economic realities, there. Speaking of economic realities, there. Speaking of economic realities, HUD plans to block immigrants from HUD plans to block immigrants from HUD plans to block immigrants from getting federal dollars for home getting federal dollars for home getting federal dollars for home purchases. That one's somehow going to purchases. That one's somehow going to purchases. That one's somehow going to be controversial, but boy will I'd be be controversial, but boy will I'd be be controversial, but boy will I'd be interested to see how. and anti-aging interested to see how. and anti-aging interested to see how. and anti-aging just took a huge step forward as a new just took a huge step forward as a new just took a huge step forward as a new drug has come online that addresses drug has come online that addresses drug has come online that addresses epigenetic restoration if this ends up epigenetic restoration if this ends up epigenetic restoration if this ends up being real. And we are we're talking being real. And we are we're talking being real. And we are we're talking about human dosing at this point. So about human dosing at this point. So about human dosing at this point. So this is not a super uh hypothetical this is not a super uh hypothetical this is not a super uh hypothetical thing. This is obviously something that thing. This is obviously something that thing. This is obviously something that we're seeing play out in terms of we're seeing play out in terms of we're seeing play out in terms of delivering real results. This could be delivering real results. This could be delivering real results. This could be GLP1 big. So uh I'm very excited to see GLP1 big. So uh I'm very excited to see GLP1 big. So uh I'm very excited to see how that goes. All right, welcome how that goes. All right, welcome how that goes. All right, welcome everybody. Uh I am certainly expecting everybody. Uh I am certainly expecting everybody. Uh I am certainly expecting this one to be uh something that this one to be uh something that this one to be uh something that triggers a lot of emotional response triggers a lot of emotional response triggers a lot of emotional response today. We have two big topics. Uh one, today. We have two big topics. Uh one, today. We have two big topics. Uh one, just even setting aside what's going on just even setting aside what's going on just even setting aside what's going on in Iran, you've got what's happening in in Iran, you've got what's happening in in Iran, you've got what's happening in Belfast, which is putting his finger on Belfast, which is putting his finger on Belfast, which is putting his finger on what I think is going to be the central what I think is going to be the central what I think is going to be the central debate of the next 10 years, which is debate of the next 10 years, which is debate of the next 10 years, which is immigration. I understand that um this immigration. I understand that um this immigration. I understand that um this is a very touchy topic. I get those uh is a very touchy topic. I get those uh is a very touchy topic. I get those uh private text messages from people private text messages from people private text messages from people letting me know they feel some type of letting me know they feel some type of letting me know they feel some type of way uh about this whole topic, but this way uh about this whole topic, but this way uh about this whole topic, but this isn't one that's going to go away. There isn't one that's going to go away. There isn't one that's going to go away. There is no hiding from this. We are all going is no hiding from this. We are all going is no hiding from this. We are all going to have to be able to have a rational, to have to be able to have a rational, to have to be able to have a rational, direct conversation about what's going direct conversation about what's going direct conversation about what's going on, about how we address it in a way on, about how we address it in a way on, about how we address it in a way where people can state the values and where people can state the values and where people can state the values and the um governmental policies that they the um governmental policies that they the um governmental policies that they want to see put in place and why. And want to see put in place and why. And want to see put in place and why. And remember, as with all things weird, remember, as with all things weird, remember, as with all things weird, there is an economic cause underlying there is an economic cause underlying there is an economic cause underlying all of this, but we'll get to that in a all of this, but we'll get to that in a all of this, but we'll get to that in a second. Let's just start with what second. Let's just start with what second. Let's just start with what happened. So, late on Monday night happened. So, late on Monday night happened. So, late on Monday night around 10:30 p.m., a man in his 40s was around 10:30 p.m., a man in his 40s was around 10:30 p.m., a man in his 40s was walking through uh North Belfast when walking through uh North Belfast when walking through uh North Belfast when another man attacked him with a kitchen another man attacked him with a kitchen another man attacked him with a kitchen knife. Now, there's some like knife. Now, there's some like knife. Now, there's some like discrepancies about whether this guy was discrepancies about whether this guy was discrepancies about whether this guy was actually helping uh migrants move into actually helping uh migrants move into actually helping uh migrants move into housing or not. I've heard some reports housing or not. I've heard some reports housing or not. I've heard some reports that he was actually a special needs that he was actually a special needs that he was actually a special needs person. Those things are unclear at this person. Those things are unclear at this person. Those things are unclear at this point. I've not seen enough consistent point. I've not seen enough consistent point. I've not seen enough consistent reporting on that to put a lot of faith reporting on that to put a lot of faith reporting on that to put a lot of faith in that, but know that there may be some in that, but know that there may be some in that, but know that there may be some connection as to how these two men connection as to how these two men connection as to how these two men crossed paths. A bystander ended up crossed paths. A bystander ended up crossed paths. A bystander ended up catching it on video. Within hours, it catching it on video. Within hours, it catching it on video. Within hours, it was everywhere. There's actually some was everywhere. There's actually some was everywhere. There's actually some journalist saying that they shouldn't journalist saying that they shouldn't journalist saying that they shouldn't have allowed the video to go everywhere. have allowed the video to go everywhere. have allowed the video to go everywhere. If you want to see me become emotionally If you want to see me become emotionally If you want to see me become emotionally unhinged, start talking about [ __ ] like unhinged, start talking about [ __ ] like unhinged, start talking about [ __ ] like that. Start talking about the need to that. Start talking about the need to that. Start talking about the need to repress true information. Um, that's repress true information. Um, that's repress true information. Um, that's absolute madness. And I hope that you absolute madness. And I hope that you absolute madness. And I hope that you guys don't tolerate that in any way, guys don't tolerate that in any way, guys don't tolerate that in any way, shape, or form. But nonetheless, it did shape, or form. But nonetheless, it did shape, or form. But nonetheless, it did get out. And you see the bloodied victim get out. And you see the bloodied victim get out. And you see the bloodied victim pinned to the ground being stabbed over pinned to the ground being stabbed over pinned to the ground being stabbed over and over. Some civilians rushed in and and over. Some civilians rushed in and and over. Some civilians rushed in and tried to drag the attacker off of him uh tried to drag the attacker off of him uh tried to drag the attacker off of him uh before the police could arrive. The before the police could arrive. The before the police could arrive. The victim somehow miraculously survived the victim somehow miraculously survived the victim somehow miraculously survived the horrific attack. He's now in stable horrific attack. He's now in stable horrific attack. He's now in stable condition. Uh but reports indicate that condition. Uh but reports indicate that condition. Uh but reports indicate that one eye was completely gouged out that one eye was completely gouged out that one eye was completely gouged out that the other uh was blinded again just by the other uh was blinded again just by the other uh was blinded again just by being stabbed in the eye with the knife. being stabbed in the eye with the knife. being stabbed in the eye with the knife. Uh he was left obviously with serious Uh he was left obviously with serious Uh he was left obviously with serious injuries, but he's got him across his injuries, but he's got him across his injuries, but he's got him across his face, his back, his neck. Um pretty face, his back, his neck. Um pretty face, his back, his neck. Um pretty horrifying. Was pretty shocked to hear horrifying. Was pretty shocked to hear horrifying. Was pretty shocked to hear that the guy survived. Many people were that the guy survived. Many people were that the guy survived. Many people were calling it an attempted beheading. Um calling it an attempted beheading. Um calling it an attempted beheading. Um which struck me as a unnecessarily vague which struck me as a unnecessarily vague which struck me as a unnecessarily vague first of all and then inflammatory way first of all and then inflammatory way first of all and then inflammatory way to describe it. Uh but nonetheless, the to describe it. Uh but nonetheless, the to describe it. Uh but nonetheless, the guy was left with extremely serious guy was left with extremely serious guy was left with extremely serious injuries. Police have now charged a injuries. Police have now charged a injuries. Police have now charged a 30-year-old Sudin man with attempted 30-year-old Sudin man with attempted 30-year-old Sudin man with attempted murder, possession of a bladed weapon, murder, possession of a bladed weapon, murder, possession of a bladed weapon, and making threats to kill. He's going and making threats to kill. He's going and making threats to kill. He's going to appear in court today. Uh he may have to appear in court today. Uh he may have to appear in court today. Uh he may have already given the time difference. Uh so already given the time difference. Uh so already given the time difference. Uh so we'll follow up and see what we can find we'll follow up and see what we can find we'll follow up and see what we can find on that. According to PSNI Chief on that. According to PSNI Chief on that. According to PSNI Chief Constable John Boucher, the suspect was Constable John Boucher, the suspect was Constable John Boucher, the suspect was an asylum seeker granted leave to remain an asylum seeker granted leave to remain an asylum seeker granted leave to remain in the UK back in 2023, having traveled in the UK back in 2023, having traveled in the UK back in 2023, having traveled from Sudan Sudan to Paris, then Dublin, from Sudan Sudan to Paris, then Dublin, from Sudan Sudan to Paris, then Dublin, then into Belfast by bus, where he then into Belfast by bus, where he then into Belfast by bus, where he claimed asylum in February of that year. claimed asylum in February of that year. claimed asylum in February of that year. Uh he wasn't on any security database Uh he wasn't on any security database Uh he wasn't on any security database watch list or anything. Apparently, he watch list or anything. Apparently, he watch list or anything. Apparently, he wasn't known to the police. wasn't known to the police. wasn't known to the police. Investigators say that there's no signs. Investigators say that there's no signs. Investigators say that there's no signs. This is terror related. Um, but This is terror related. Um, but This is terror related. Um, but honestly, none of that matters at the honestly, none of that matters at the honestly, none of that matters at the level of the people on the streets. And level of the people on the streets. And level of the people on the streets. And so, Tuesday night, Belfast just so, Tuesday night, Belfast just so, Tuesday night, Belfast just absolutely erupted. There were tons of absolutely erupted. There were tons of absolutely erupted. There were tons of calls for marches, uh, for people to calls for marches, uh, for people to calls for marches, uh, for people to just let the political class, as they're just let the political class, as they're just let the political class, as they're calling it, know how they feel, which is calling it, know how they feel, which is calling it, know how they feel, which is certainly coded language for riot and certainly coded language for riot and certainly coded language for riot and burn things. Mass crowds did exactly burn things. Mass crowds did exactly burn things. Mass crowds did exactly that. They torched the bus. They set that. They torched the bus. They set that. They torched the bus. They set cars ablaze, hurled petrol bombs, lit cars ablaze, hurled petrol bombs, lit cars ablaze, hurled petrol bombs, lit homes on fire with riers specifically homes on fire with riers specifically homes on fire with riers specifically targeting the houses of um either targeting the houses of um either targeting the houses of um either minorities or um immigrants. Families minorities or um immigrants. Families minorities or um immigrants. Families were fleeing. The violence spread to uh were fleeing. The violence spread to uh were fleeing. The violence spread to uh surrounding towns with smaller flare-ups surrounding towns with smaller flare-ups surrounding towns with smaller flare-ups all across England, Wales, and Scotland. all across England, Wales, and Scotland. all across England, Wales, and Scotland. Kirstma has called the knife attack Kirstma has called the knife attack Kirstma has called the knife attack horrific. Um but he's also said that the horrific. Um but he's also said that the horrific. Um but he's also said that the response for people going out in the response for people going out in the response for people going out in the streets is just absolutely unacceptable. streets is just absolutely unacceptable. streets is just absolutely unacceptable. Uh, and so the big question there is Uh, and so the big question there is Uh, and so the big question there is going to be what do you do when you going to be what do you do when you going to be what do you do when you believe that the political class is no believe that the political class is no believe that the political class is no longer listening to you? Um, I think the longer listening to you? Um, I think the longer listening to you? Um, I think the moment you start burning the city down, moment you start burning the city down, moment you start burning the city down, obviously each and every one of those obviously each and every one of those obviously each and every one of those crimes needs to be prosecuted. You crimes needs to be prosecuted. You crimes needs to be prosecuted. You cannot let lawlessness ride no matter cannot let lawlessness ride no matter cannot let lawlessness ride no matter how just uh it may be. But all of this how just uh it may be. But all of this how just uh it may be. But all of this brings to the forefront that there is a brings to the forefront that there is a brings to the forefront that there is a real disconnect between the way that real disconnect between the way that real disconnect between the way that people are feeling at the street level people are feeling at the street level people are feeling at the street level and the way that the political class are and the way that the political class are and the way that the political class are pursuing this. So when you hear the pursuing this. So when you hear the pursuing this. So when you hear the newscasters talking, did we I think I newscasters talking, did we I think I newscasters talking, did we I think I did pull the um the woman on the news did pull the um the woman on the news did pull the um the woman on the news segment saying basically they never segment saying basically they never segment saying basically they never should have let the video go. Um just to should have let the video go. Um just to should have let the video go. Um just to give a sense of the disconnect here. give a sense of the disconnect here. give a sense of the disconnect here. I I mean I I welcome them the minister I I mean I I welcome them the minister I I mean I I welcome them the minister saying that politicians need to be saying that politicians need to be saying that politicians need to be careful because all I hear from the careful because all I hear from the careful because all I hear from the government benches is is dog whistles government benches is is dog whistles government benches is is dog whistles constantly where they scapegoat migrants constantly where they scapegoat migrants constantly where they scapegoat migrants for their own failures and they're doing for their own failures and they're doing for their own failures and they're doing it more and more and more and it is it more and more and more and it is it more and more and more and it is clear pathway that this government has clear pathway that this government has clear pathway that this government has chosen to go down and and I you know chosen to go down and and I you know chosen to go down and and I you know that for me I think you know tonight that for me I think you know tonight that for me I think you know tonight what those scenes we're seeing we have what those scenes we're seeing we have what those scenes we're seeing we have to ask ourselves as a society how this to ask ourselves as a society how this to ask ourselves as a society how this is happening and we have to ask all all is happening and we have to ask all all is happening and we have to ask all all of us on an individual basis need to ask of us on an individual basis need to ask of us on an individual basis need to ask how we are either contributing to this how we are either contributing to this how we are either contributing to this or fixing it. Mary. or fixing it. Mary. or fixing it. Mary. >> Yeah. I think the argument has been >> Yeah. I think the argument has been >> Yeah. I think the argument has been >> So, pause it for a second. So, part of >> So, pause it for a second. So, part of >> So, pause it for a second. So, part of the problem and part of what I hope that the problem and part of what I hope that the problem and part of what I hope that quote unquote new media like we can do quote unquote new media like we can do quote unquote new media like we can do on the show is really just get under the on the show is really just get under the on the show is really just get under the sound bite and get down to saying sound bite and get down to saying sound bite and get down to saying something specific. She's saying a whole something specific. She's saying a whole something specific. She's saying a whole lot of vague things there. People are lot of vague things there. People are lot of vague things there. People are just going to fill in what they want to just going to fill in what they want to just going to fill in what they want to believe that she's saying rather than believe that she's saying rather than believe that she's saying rather than okay, as a nation, we have to go uh are okay, as a nation, we have to go uh are okay, as a nation, we have to go uh are we bringing in immigrants as a form of we bringing in immigrants as a form of we bringing in immigrants as a form of compassion? Are we bringing immigrants compassion? Are we bringing immigrants compassion? Are we bringing immigrants as a form of economic relief, are we as a form of economic relief, are we as a form of economic relief, are we struggling financially and so we're struggling financially and so we're struggling financially and so we're trying to import cheap labor? Is that trying to import cheap labor? Is that trying to import cheap labor? Is that why even when a government is why even when a government is why even when a government is conservative and they come in literally conservative and they come in literally conservative and they come in literally on we're going to reduce immigration and on we're going to reduce immigration and on we're going to reduce immigration and then in several countries they've ended then in several countries they've ended then in several countries they've ended up increasing immigration. Um, that to up increasing immigration. Um, that to up increasing immigration. Um, that to me points directly at you have an me points directly at you have an me points directly at you have an economic problem that they get into economic problem that they get into economic problem that they get into office and realize, uhoh, I have to keep office and realize, uhoh, I have to keep office and realize, uhoh, I have to keep prices low because we've been inflating prices low because we've been inflating prices low because we've been inflating the currency to hell and back. And so the currency to hell and back. And so the currency to hell and back. And so the only way for us to keep the prices the only way for us to keep the prices the only way for us to keep the prices low is to have immigrant labor that's low is to have immigrant labor that's low is to have immigrant labor that's low. We're also in a lot of countries, low. We're also in a lot of countries, low. We're also in a lot of countries, take Japan for instance, dealing with take Japan for instance, dealing with take Japan for instance, dealing with low birth rates. So if if we start low birth rates. So if if we start low birth rates. So if if we start having the conversation at that actual having the conversation at that actual having the conversation at that actual cause and effect level, then we can cause and effect level, then we can cause and effect level, then we can begin to lay things out. Okay, cool. begin to lay things out. Okay, cool. begin to lay things out. Okay, cool. There's a sequence of cause and effect. There's a sequence of cause and effect. There's a sequence of cause and effect. We as a nation have to decide and be We as a nation have to decide and be We as a nation have to decide and be able to state in a very clear and able to state in a very clear and able to state in a very clear and sensible way what our value system is. sensible way what our value system is. sensible way what our value system is. And then we've got to be able to draft And then we've got to be able to draft And then we've got to be able to draft it up into policy that people can read. it up into policy that people can read. it up into policy that people can read. It's very simple and it's It's very simple and it's It's very simple and it's understandable. And then we all say this understandable. And then we all say this understandable. And then we all say this is what we're trying to do. And by the is what we're trying to do. And by the is what we're trying to do. And by the way, you just have to agree on where way, you just have to agree on where way, you just have to agree on where you're trying to get to. Uh so where are you're trying to get to. Uh so where are you're trying to get to. Uh so where are we trying to get in a way that we can we trying to get in a way that we can we trying to get in a way that we can articulate? And if where we're trying to articulate? And if where we're trying to articulate? And if where we're trying to get is uh we want to make sure that get is uh we want to make sure that get is uh we want to make sure that we're keeping prices low and that's our we're keeping prices low and that's our we're keeping prices low and that's our primary concern now we can at least have primary concern now we can at least have primary concern now we can at least have the debate and people can say no that's the debate and people can say no that's the debate and people can say no that's not what we should be doing. What we not what we should be doing. What we not what we should be doing. What we should be doing is uh conserving our should be doing is uh conserving our should be doing is uh conserving our heritage. What we should be doing is heritage. What we should be doing is heritage. What we should be doing is making sure that Ireland stays white. At making sure that Ireland stays white. At making sure that Ireland stays white. At least [ __ ] say it out loud. Like just least [ __ ] say it out loud. Like just least [ __ ] say it out loud. Like just say the thing and then people can go say the thing and then people can go say the thing and then people can go that's so horrendous. I'm not interested that's so horrendous. I'm not interested that's so horrendous. I'm not interested in that at all. Or yeah it sounds in that at all. Or yeah it sounds in that at all. Or yeah it sounds [ __ ] gross but it's what we're here [ __ ] gross but it's what we're here [ __ ] gross but it's what we're here for. we've got a long-standing culture for. we've got a long-standing culture for. we've got a long-standing culture and tradition and we're going to protect and tradition and we're going to protect and tradition and we're going to protect it or no, this is about whatever. Insert it or no, this is about whatever. Insert it or no, this is about whatever. Insert the thing. But until we have a the thing. But until we have a the thing. But until we have a conversation that's actually at the conversation that's actually at the conversation that's actually at the level of something that you can state in level of something that you can state in level of something that you can state in a single sentence of 35 words or less, a single sentence of 35 words or less, a single sentence of 35 words or less, this is what I'm trying to accomplish. this is what I'm trying to accomplish. this is what I'm trying to accomplish. Then there's nowhere for you to hide. Then there's nowhere for you to hide. Then there's nowhere for you to hide. You just have to stand 10 toes down on You just have to stand 10 toes down on You just have to stand 10 toes down on whatever the thing is that you're trying whatever the thing is that you're trying whatever the thing is that you're trying to fight for. And then we can have that to fight for. And then we can have that to fight for. And then we can have that argument, decide where we're actually argument, decide where we're actually argument, decide where we're actually trying to go. You can elect politicians trying to go. You can elect politicians trying to go. You can elect politicians based on whether they're going to move based on whether they're going to move based on whether they're going to move towards the thing that you believe in or towards the thing that you believe in or towards the thing that you believe in or not. And we're having the real not. And we're having the real not. And we're having the real conversation instead of somebody trying conversation instead of somebody trying conversation instead of somebody trying to throw around uh comments like all I to throw around uh comments like all I to throw around uh comments like all I hear is dog whistles. What do you mean hear is dog whistles. What do you mean hear is dog whistles. What do you mean by that? So I assume she's trying to get by that? So I assume she's trying to get by that? So I assume she's trying to get at this is a race thing. People are just at this is a race thing. People are just at this is a race thing. People are just racist. It's that that is not going to racist. It's that that is not going to racist. It's that that is not going to be a high functioning uh way to approach be a high functioning uh way to approach be a high functioning uh way to approach this argument anymore because there are this argument anymore because there are this argument anymore because there are going to be real consequences. We'll get going to be real consequences. We'll get going to be real consequences. We'll get to some of that more when we talk about to some of that more when we talk about to some of that more when we talk about HUD a little bit later. We're here in HUD a little bit later. We're here in HUD a little bit later. We're here in the US, uh, we're realizing that not the US, uh, we're realizing that not the US, uh, we're realizing that not only during the Biden administration did only during the Biden administration did only during the Biden administration did we let in a whole lot of people um with we let in a whole lot of people um with we let in a whole lot of people um with the open borders, but we were also the open borders, but we were also the open borders, but we were also giving them access to federal tax giving them access to federal tax giving them access to federal tax dollars uh to backs stop their loans for dollars uh to backs stop their loans for dollars uh to backs stop their loans for housing, which of course is going to housing, which of course is going to housing, which of course is going to drive housing costs up. And so it drive housing costs up. And so it drive housing costs up. And so it doesn't matter what their nationality doesn't matter what their nationality doesn't matter what their nationality is. It doesn't matter what the color of is. It doesn't matter what the color of is. It doesn't matter what the color of their skin is. There's just an economic their skin is. There's just an economic their skin is. There's just an economic knock-on effect. And so that that's knock-on effect. And so that that's knock-on effect. And so that that's going to be what not just we are charged going to be what not just we are charged going to be what not just we are charged with here on this show but with with here on this show but with with here on this show but with everybody that has a long form show is everybody that has a long form show is everybody that has a long form show is to really start breaking this stuff to really start breaking this stuff to really start breaking this stuff down. And I I will just tell you the down. And I I will just tell you the down. And I I will just tell you the only way forward is to get people out of only way forward is to get people out of only way forward is to get people out of their emotions. Humans reason their emotions. Humans reason their emotions. Humans reason emotionally. So just everything about emotionally. So just everything about emotionally. So just everything about their impulse is going to take them to their impulse is going to take them to their impulse is going to take them to have a big emotional reaction to display have a big emotional reaction to display have a big emotional reaction to display the emotion for people to respond to the emotion for people to respond to the emotion for people to respond to which person talking what emotion they which person talking what emotion they which person talking what emotion they align with rather than saying we live in align with rather than saying we live in align with rather than saying we live in a deterministic universe based on cause a deterministic universe based on cause a deterministic universe based on cause and effect. And if we're importing a and effect. And if we're importing a and effect. And if we're importing a bunch of immigrants that is going to bunch of immigrants that is going to bunch of immigrants that is going to have uh economic consequences. It will have uh economic consequences. It will have uh economic consequences. It will lower costs. It will um increase lower costs. It will um increase lower costs. It will um increase pressure on things like housing. If pressure on things like housing. If pressure on things like housing. If there is a culture collision, then we're there is a culture collision, then we're there is a culture collision, then we're going to see increased tensions which going to see increased tensions which going to see increased tensions which will lead to increased violence. Like will lead to increased violence. Like will lead to increased violence. Like all of these things can be placed very all of these things can be placed very all of these things can be placed very simply in terms of what the problem set simply in terms of what the problem set simply in terms of what the problem set is so that we can navigate through it. is so that we can navigate through it. is so that we can navigate through it. Japan for me becomes the most Japan for me becomes the most Japan for me becomes the most interesting way to look at all of this interesting way to look at all of this interesting way to look at all of this because even the like ultra-conservative because even the like ultra-conservative because even the like ultra-conservative prime minister that just came in has prime minister that just came in has prime minister that just came in has only reduced uh their immigration by only reduced uh their immigration by only reduced uh their immigration by like 10% or something. I mean it's like 10% or something. I mean it's like 10% or something. I mean it's really really minor because I think really really minor because I think really really minor because I think she's stuck in that they have an aging she's stuck in that they have an aging she's stuck in that they have an aging population and they don't have an population and they don't have an population and they don't have an economic solution for that. And so now economic solution for that. And so now economic solution for that. And so now you get into a thing where you have to you get into a thing where you have to you get into a thing where you have to face like well we both want to protect face like well we both want to protect face like well we both want to protect what Japanese culture means but we have what Japanese culture means but we have what Japanese culture means but we have a declining population and we're now a declining population and we're now a declining population and we're now having economic problems. They're having economic problems. They're having economic problems. They're getting inflation for the first time. getting inflation for the first time. getting inflation for the first time. There's a whole host of knock-on There's a whole host of knock-on There's a whole host of knock-on effects. So that it until we start effects. So that it until we start effects. So that it until we start having the debate at those levels and we having the debate at those levels and we having the debate at those levels and we stop having the debate at the emotional stop having the debate at the emotional stop having the debate at the emotional level of hey racist shut up. Um we're level of hey racist shut up. Um we're level of hey racist shut up. Um we're not going to make any progress not going to make any progress not going to make any progress whatsoever. Um, I just want to set a disclaimer at Um, I just want to set a disclaimer at the show. I feel like we can all opt out the show. I feel like we can all opt out the show. I feel like we can all opt out of the race war that they're trying to of the race war that they're trying to of the race war that they're trying to force us into right now with these force us into right now with these force us into right now with these headlines. But it does seem that we like headlines. But it does seem that we like headlines. But it does seem that we like to highlight certain things and it to highlight certain things and it to highlight certain things and it causes a substantial response. And this causes a substantial response. And this causes a substantial response. And this is is is >> When we say we like to highlight, do you >> When we say we like to highlight, do you >> When we say we like to highlight, do you mean this show or society? mean this show or society? mean this show or society? >> I'm going to say media in general >> I'm going to say media in general >> I'm going to say media in general because I feel like this beheading is because I feel like this beheading is because I feel like this beheading is going to lead to um a protest. Um, the going to lead to um a protest. Um, the going to lead to um a protest. Um, the protest is going to go across spans ac protest is going to go across spans ac protest is going to go across spans ac across countries from Ireland to across countries from Ireland to across countries from Ireland to England. In Glasgow, there's a bunch of England. In Glasgow, there's a bunch of England. In Glasgow, there's a bunch of dudes in all black walking around. dudes in all black walking around. dudes in all black walking around. There's people getting attacked. And There's people getting attacked. And There's people getting attacked. And it's it's it's just like this one domino it's it's it's just like this one domino it's it's it's just like this one domino can lead to all these other like second can lead to all these other like second can lead to all these other like second order consequences. And now because of order consequences. And now because of order consequences. And now because of this one domino, we're now talking about this one domino, we're now talking about this one domino, we're now talking about immigration in a different way. Whereas immigration in a different way. Whereas immigration in a different way. Whereas if I was to take a step back and say, if I was to take a step back and say, if I was to take a step back and say, okay, if we could just say it's like the okay, if we could just say it's like the okay, if we could just say it's like the 8020 rule, like 20% of the immigrants is 8020 rule, like 20% of the immigrants is 8020 rule, like 20% of the immigrants is causing 80% of the outrage. causing 80% of the outrage. causing 80% of the outrage. >> Yeah. Might even be less. >> Yeah. Might even be less. >> Yeah. Might even be less. >> You know what I mean? >> You know what I mean? >> You know what I mean? >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> So, is it right for us to have the >> So, is it right for us to have the >> So, is it right for us to have the conversation of because of this attack, conversation of because of this attack, conversation of because of this attack, we need to talk about immigration as a we need to talk about immigration as a we need to talk about immigration as a whole, or do you think immigration as a whole, or do you think immigration as a whole, or do you think immigration as a whole needs to be talked about and this whole needs to be talked about and this whole needs to be talked about and this is just another catalyst to accelerate is just another catalyst to accelerate is just another catalyst to accelerate that conversation that keeps getting that conversation that keeps getting that conversation that keeps getting pushed back? that so we should have been pushed back? that so we should have been pushed back? that so we should have been having the conversation about having the conversation about having the conversation about immigration a very very very very long immigration a very very very very long immigration a very very very very long time ago time ago time ago >> and as the globalist notion like if I >> and as the globalist notion like if I >> and as the globalist notion like if I can strip away all of the like howling can strip away all of the like howling can strip away all of the like howling wolves and dark clouds and I'm being wolves and dark clouds and I'm being wolves and dark clouds and I'm being manipulated by an evil cabal strip that manipulated by an evil cabal strip that manipulated by an evil cabal strip that away away away >> there's just an idea that has grown that >> there's just an idea that has grown that >> there's just an idea that has grown that is really quite beautiful at its core is really quite beautiful at its core is really quite beautiful at its core which is hey as a as a um civilization which is hey as a as a um civilization which is hey as a as a um civilization We of humanity realize that these We of humanity realize that these We of humanity realize that these geographical borders are largely geographical borders are largely geographical borders are largely arbitrary. We realize that the um the arbitrary. We realize that the um the arbitrary. We realize that the um the like uh the the phenotypic like uh the the phenotypic like uh the the phenotypic um way that our genes express themselves um way that our genes express themselves um way that our genes express themselves in different amounts of melanin are just in different amounts of melanin are just in different amounts of melanin are just completely superficial. And the completely superficial. And the completely superficial. And the absurdity of judging each other based on absurdity of judging each other based on absurdity of judging each other based on phenotype is crazy. And that to me that phenotype is crazy. And that to me that phenotype is crazy. And that to me that argument is so beautiful and it argument is so beautiful and it argument is so beautiful and it resonates with me so hard. I love that. resonates with me so hard. I love that. resonates with me so hard. I love that. And then though you are hit with the And then though you are hit with the And then though you are hit with the reality of but culture is why humans reality of but culture is why humans reality of but culture is why humans have achieved what they've achieved. have achieved what they've achieved. have achieved what they've achieved. Meaning we have an evolutionary strategy Meaning we have an evolutionary strategy Meaning we have an evolutionary strategy that says you're not going to have to that says you're not going to have to that says you're not going to have to reinvent yourself every generation. And reinvent yourself every generation. And reinvent yourself every generation. And you're not just going to learn from mom you're not just going to learn from mom you're not just going to learn from mom and or dad like every other species and or dad like every other species and or dad like every other species where it's like we're going to where it's like we're going to where it's like we're going to pre-program a set of behaviors in you. pre-program a set of behaviors in you. pre-program a set of behaviors in you. This this is quite literally the um This this is quite literally the um This this is quite literally the um evolutionary evolutionary evolutionary uh bet that every species has made but uh bet that every species has made but uh bet that every species has made but us. Every species but us. I mean there us. Every species but us. I mean there us. Every species but us. I mean there are some minor exceptions in like are some minor exceptions in like are some minor exceptions in like chimpanzees and things like that, but chimpanzees and things like that, but chimpanzees and things like that, but they're on our line. So you get why they they're on our line. So you get why they they're on our line. So you get why they would be on that spectrum as well. But would be on that spectrum as well. But would be on that spectrum as well. But every species basically just chooses, every species basically just chooses, every species basically just chooses, I'm going to give you a bunch of I'm going to give you a bunch of I'm going to give you a bunch of instinctual drives and then your parents instinctual drives and then your parents instinctual drives and then your parents might model something for you. And so might model something for you. And so might model something for you. And so you will look a 100,000 years from now you will look a 100,000 years from now you will look a 100,000 years from now from a behavior pattern exactly the same from a behavior pattern exactly the same from a behavior pattern exactly the same as your ancestors. So turtle's going to as your ancestors. So turtle's going to as your ancestors. So turtle's going to turtle, shark's going to shark. Like it turtle, shark's going to shark. Like it turtle, shark's going to shark. Like it just doesn't change. And humans on the just doesn't change. And humans on the just doesn't change. And humans on the other hand use culture. And so it's this other hand use culture. And so it's this other hand use culture. And so it's this incredible thing that allows us to go, incredible thing that allows us to go, incredible thing that allows us to go, I'm going to teach you over, you know, I'm going to teach you over, you know, I'm going to teach you over, you know, call it the 35 years back when that was call it the 35 years back when that was call it the 35 years back when that was the average lifespan. Over the 35 years the average lifespan. Over the 35 years the average lifespan. Over the 35 years of your life, I'm going to teach you of your life, I'm going to teach you of your life, I'm going to teach you about everything that came before you about everything that came before you about everything that came before you within reason, within like your within reason, within like your within reason, within like your specialty and stuff like that. But now specialty and stuff like that. But now specialty and stuff like that. But now the quote being you're going to stand on the quote being you're going to stand on the quote being you're going to stand on the shoulders of giants. And so we've the shoulders of giants. And so we've the shoulders of giants. And so we've got this cultural layer and it is the got this cultural layer and it is the got this cultural layer and it is the reason that we become the dominant reason that we become the dominant reason that we become the dominant species and our genetic ability to species and our genetic ability to species and our genetic ability to adapt. But like you put those together, adapt. But like you put those together, adapt. But like you put those together, it's this incredible cocktail. But when it's this incredible cocktail. But when it's this incredible cocktail. But when we have the conversation, we get stuck we have the conversation, we get stuck we have the conversation, we get stuck at one of the things that is ingrained at one of the things that is ingrained at one of the things that is ingrained in us in terms of um the we have an in us in terms of um the we have an in us in terms of um the we have an instinctual push towards it, which is instinctual push towards it, which is instinctual push towards it, which is what I call school of fish. We want to what I call school of fish. We want to what I call school of fish. We want to group up with people that are like us. group up with people that are like us. group up with people that are like us. Now, there are a whole lot of ways that Now, there are a whole lot of ways that Now, there are a whole lot of ways that we can draw those circles. And so, that we can draw those circles. And so, that we can draw those circles. And so, that circle could be men, circle could be circle could be men, circle could be circle could be men, circle could be women, that circle could be black, the women, that circle could be black, the women, that circle could be black, the circle could be white, that circle could circle could be white, that circle could circle could be white, that circle could be Nigerian, could be African-American. be Nigerian, could be African-American. be Nigerian, could be African-American. Like, there's a gazillion ways that you Like, there's a gazillion ways that you Like, there's a gazillion ways that you can draw. It can be humanity, Americans, can draw. It can be humanity, Americans, can draw. It can be humanity, Americans, whatever. Like, you can draw all these whatever. Like, you can draw all these whatever. Like, you can draw all these weird different circles. Religion is the weird different circles. Religion is the weird different circles. Religion is the most fascinating of the circles because most fascinating of the circles because most fascinating of the circles because it will show you how you can have people it will show you how you can have people it will show you how you can have people that look nothing alike, didn't grow up that look nothing alike, didn't grow up that look nothing alike, didn't grow up in the same country, all of a sudden in the same country, all of a sudden in the same country, all of a sudden we're both Catholic. And that one shows we're both Catholic. And that one shows we're both Catholic. And that one shows that, okay, the human mind has this just that, okay, the human mind has this just that, okay, the human mind has this just absolutely desperate desire to absolutely desperate desire to absolutely desperate desire to categorize. I need to know, are you like categorize. I need to know, are you like categorize. I need to know, are you like me? Are you not? Are you friend? Are you me? Are you not? Are you friend? Are you me? Are you not? Are you friend? Are you foe? Are you [ __ ] or not? Can like I foe? Are you [ __ ] or not? Can like I foe? Are you [ __ ] or not? Can like I mate with you? Like all of these things mate with you? Like all of these things mate with you? Like all of these things we're constantly trying to like make we're constantly trying to like make we're constantly trying to like make sure I understand what box and what sure I understand what box and what sure I understand what box and what context you belong in. Now if you context you belong in. Now if you context you belong in. Now if you understand culture is like the most understand culture is like the most understand culture is like the most powerful transmission layer that we have powerful transmission layer that we have powerful transmission layer that we have then you understand oh culture is the then you understand oh culture is the then you understand oh culture is the thing that people will fight and die thing that people will fight and die thing that people will fight and die for. Then it's like okay well then we for. Then it's like okay well then we for. Then it's like okay well then we need to be very careful about collisions need to be very careful about collisions need to be very careful about collisions of cultures. So this cool idea that Tom of cultures. So this cool idea that Tom of cultures. So this cool idea that Tom likes of like hey borders can finally likes of like hey borders can finally likes of like hey borders can finally disappear. We've got airplanes we can disappear. We've got airplanes we can disappear. We've got airplanes we can trade across borders. We can marry trade across borders. We can marry trade across borders. We can marry across borders. We can find people that across borders. We can find people that across borders. We can find people that we love that don't look anything like we love that don't look anything like we love that don't look anything like us, but they share this value set. Yay, us, but they share this value set. Yay, us, but they share this value set. Yay, it's amazing. But at the same time, just it's amazing. But at the same time, just it's amazing. But at the same time, just like states get to run different like states get to run different like states get to run different economic experience uh experiments, economic experience uh experiments, economic experience uh experiments, they get to um draw people to their they get to um draw people to their they get to um draw people to their state using different incentives. And so state using different incentives. And so state using different incentives. And so we get to experiment in 50 different we get to experiment in 50 different we get to experiment in 50 different ways with what's the best way to run a ways with what's the best way to run a ways with what's the best way to run a government. And then if the federal government. And then if the federal government. And then if the federal government is wise, it looks at all of government is wise, it looks at all of government is wise, it looks at all of those different experiments and it takes those different experiments and it takes those different experiments and it takes the ones that are going to work at a the ones that are going to work at a the ones that are going to work at a national level. But it's like, cool. I'm national level. But it's like, cool. I'm national level. But it's like, cool. I'm glad that you guys are competing and glad that you guys are competing and glad that you guys are competing and doing different things. Okay. So now if doing different things. Okay. So now if doing different things. Okay. So now if we take that on and we go, okay, people we take that on and we go, okay, people we take that on and we go, okay, people are looking as from a a nation state, are looking as from a a nation state, are looking as from a a nation state, from a subculture perspective, it's a from a subculture perspective, it's a from a subculture perspective, it's a bunch of people running a bunch of bunch of people running a bunch of bunch of people running a bunch of different tests of what's the best way different tests of what's the best way different tests of what's the best way for where we live, for um the for where we live, for um the for where we live, for um the difficulties that we face. what are the difficulties that we face. what are the difficulties that we face. what are the best ideas that we can pass via the best ideas that we can pass via the best ideas that we can pass via the cultural layer onto our kids such that cultural layer onto our kids such that cultural layer onto our kids such that they will thrive. they will thrive. they will thrive. >> And what we're seeing now is you can't >> And what we're seeing now is you can't >> And what we're seeing now is you can't just mix and match those really rapidly. just mix and match those really rapidly. just mix and match those really rapidly. It doesn't work because people defend It doesn't work because people defend It doesn't work because people defend their culture. And I think that's the their culture. And I think that's the their culture. And I think that's the part that people are missing. If you do part that people are missing. If you do part that people are missing. If you do it at a rate where they assimilate, you it at a rate where they assimilate, you it at a rate where they assimilate, you can get away with it. But America is can get away with it. But America is can get away with it. But America is like, we've been showing people for like, we've been showing people for like, we've been showing people for 400ish years what it looks like. You get 400ish years what it looks like. You get 400ish years what it looks like. You get a wave of white as the day is long, a wave of white as the day is long, a wave of white as the day is long, Irish immigrants, and they're [ __ ] Irish immigrants, and they're [ __ ] Irish immigrants, and they're [ __ ] rejected. Even though it's whites and rejected. Even though it's whites and rejected. Even though it's whites and whites, whites, whites, >> I'm not here for it. You don't represent >> I'm not here for it. You don't represent >> I'm not here for it. You don't represent my culture. You sound different. My my culture. You sound different. My my culture. You sound different. My circle of us and other triggers. You're circle of us and other triggers. You're circle of us and other triggers. You're other [ __ ] you. other [ __ ] you. other [ __ ] you. >> Same with Italians. Maybe not quite as >> Same with Italians. Maybe not quite as >> Same with Italians. Maybe not quite as white as an Irish kid, but still pretty white as an Irish kid, but still pretty white as an Irish kid, but still pretty [ __ ] white. [ __ ] white. [ __ ] white. >> And they were still rejected. So it was >> And they were still rejected. So it was >> And they were still rejected. So it was only that we eventually like things were only that we eventually like things were only that we eventually like things were moving slow enough that we would bring moving slow enough that we would bring moving slow enough that we would bring them in, reject them and then assimilate them in, reject them and then assimilate them in, reject them and then assimilate and they would become American. Then you and they would become American. Then you and they would become American. Then you would get the next wave. They would get would get the next wave. They would get would get the next wave. They would get rejected. But over time they would rejected. But over time they would rejected. But over time they would assimilate because America had enough assimilate because America had enough assimilate because America had enough cultural identity that it was like cultural identity that it was like cultural identity that it was like either you get on board with this or you either you get on board with this or you either you get on board with this or you can [ __ ] right off. And so that became can [ __ ] right off. And so that became can [ __ ] right off. And so that became the pressure to assimilate became really the pressure to assimilate became really the pressure to assimilate became really strong. now that it it's happening too strong. now that it it's happening too strong. now that it it's happening too fast. There are too many different fast. There are too many different fast. There are too many different cultures coming from too many different cultures coming from too many different cultures coming from too many different places and I think for reasons that will places and I think for reasons that will places and I think for reasons that will be way more controversial and become be way more controversial and become be way more controversial and become more Tom speaking than Tom being more more Tom speaking than Tom being more more Tom speaking than Tom being more sort of high level looking at just sort of high level looking at just sort of high level looking at just trends that I think are very defensible. trends that I think are very defensible. trends that I think are very defensible. I think there is also an agenda to get I think there is also an agenda to get I think there is also an agenda to get votes based on government welfare votes based on government welfare votes based on government welfare programs where now you're not trying to programs where now you're not trying to programs where now you're not trying to get people to assimilate. What you're get people to assimilate. What you're get people to assimilate. What you're trying to get them to do is vote as trying to get them to do is vote as trying to get them to do is vote as blocks. And so it's easier if a Somali blocks. And so it's easier if a Somali blocks. And so it's easier if a Somali community selfisolates. So I only have community selfisolates. So I only have community selfisolates. So I only have to go win over the leadership there. Now to go win over the leadership there. Now to go win over the leadership there. Now I get them as a whole block. And so I get them as a whole block. And so I get them as a whole block. And so because I think there's a political because I think there's a political because I think there's a political incentive in addition to just a natural incentive in addition to just a natural incentive in addition to just a natural [ __ ] man, I'm a Somali who finds myself [ __ ] man, I'm a Somali who finds myself [ __ ] man, I'm a Somali who finds myself in Minnesota. Jesus, I can't relate to in Minnesota. Jesus, I can't relate to in Minnesota. Jesus, I can't relate to anybody. This is [ __ ] weird. I can't anybody. This is [ __ ] weird. I can't anybody. This is [ __ ] weird. I can't believe your country gets this cold. believe your country gets this cold. believe your country gets this cold. What is happening? So, it's already What is happening? So, it's already What is happening? So, it's already you're going to isolate down. Now, you're going to isolate down. Now, you're going to isolate down. Now, you're giving political incentives for you're giving political incentives for you're giving political incentives for the political class to be glad that the political class to be glad that the political class to be glad that you're also not diffusing, that you're you're also not diffusing, that you're you're also not diffusing, that you're voting as a block. And so, now you're voting as a block. And so, now you're voting as a block. And so, now you're getting these communities that aren't getting these communities that aren't getting these communities that aren't attempting to assimilate. And so, the attempting to assimilate. And so, the attempting to assimilate. And so, the sense of what it means to be American is sense of what it means to be American is sense of what it means to be American is no longer being propagated, which means no longer being propagated, which means no longer being propagated, which means we're not turning into a melting pot. we're not turning into a melting pot. we're not turning into a melting pot. we're staying these like different we're staying these like different we're staying these like different groups with different values. Now, on groups with different values. Now, on groups with different values. Now, on top of that, the left really believes top of that, the left really believes top of that, the left really believes this idea of, well, there's no culture this idea of, well, there's no culture this idea of, well, there's no culture that's better than another that's super that's better than another that's super that's better than another that's super [ __ ] judgmental. And so, it's like we [ __ ] judgmental. And so, it's like we [ __ ] judgmental. And so, it's like we need to be tolerant of everything, which need to be tolerant of everything, which need to be tolerant of everything, which once again weakens like, okay, wait, once again weakens like, okay, wait, once again weakens like, okay, wait, what do we stand for? What do we arrest what do we stand for? What do we arrest what do we stand for? What do we arrest somebody for? What do we just draw hard somebody for? What do we just draw hard somebody for? What do we just draw hard lines around and say both from a legal lines around and say both from a legal lines around and say both from a legal and from a cultural perspective, we just and from a cultural perspective, we just and from a cultural perspective, we just aren't going to tolerate? That starts to aren't going to tolerate? That starts to aren't going to tolerate? That starts to get really muddy. Nobody can agree on get really muddy. Nobody can agree on get really muddy. Nobody can agree on what that is, which just further creates what that is, which just further creates what that is, which just further creates these uh fractions. Now, again, just to these uh fractions. Now, again, just to these uh fractions. Now, again, just to point people at, race is is completely a point people at, race is is completely a point people at, race is is completely a construct of a populist moment where construct of a populist moment where construct of a populist moment where it's easy. We know that people it's just it's easy. We know that people it's just it's easy. We know that people it's just so visible that if I'm trying to keep so visible that if I'm trying to keep so visible that if I'm trying to keep you in your emotions, I'm trying to keep you in your emotions, I'm trying to keep you in your emotions, I'm trying to keep you mad. Then, and people do it you mad. Then, and people do it you mad. Then, and people do it naturally. I want to be very clear. naturally. I want to be very clear. naturally. I want to be very clear. You're leveraging it as a demagogue You're leveraging it as a demagogue You're leveraging it as a demagogue because it's so easy because people so because it's so easy because people so because it's so easy because people so naturally us and other based on skin naturally us and other based on skin naturally us and other based on skin color that you just keep fermenting that color that you just keep fermenting that color that you just keep fermenting that but it's all fake. The real thing is but it's all fake. The real thing is but it's all fake. The real thing is culture. Now if there's a culture being culture. Now if there's a culture being culture. Now if there's a culture being transmitted through a group that also transmitted through a group that also transmitted through a group that also has a consistent has a consistent has a consistent skin color now it's like it's a Jesus skin color now it's like it's a Jesus skin color now it's like it's a Jesus trying to tease those out becomes very trying to tease those out becomes very trying to tease those out becomes very very difficult. But in reality, they very difficult. But in reality, they very difficult. But in reality, they actually are two different phenomenon. actually are two different phenomenon. actually are two different phenomenon. And if we keep them apart, we'll have a And if we keep them apart, we'll have a And if we keep them apart, we'll have a much easier time working our way through much easier time working our way through much easier time working our way through the problem to get back to what am I the problem to get back to what am I the problem to get back to what am I trying to achieve? What are the policies trying to achieve? What are the policies trying to achieve? What are the policies I need to put in place to achieve it? I need to put in place to achieve it? I need to put in place to achieve it? Okay. Now, with that said, you can have Okay. Now, with that said, you can have Okay. Now, with that said, you can have two groups, Catholics and Protestants in two groups, Catholics and Protestants in two groups, Catholics and Protestants in Belfast, to bring it back to Belfast, Belfast, to bring it back to Belfast, Belfast, to bring it back to Belfast, who they're they are indistinguishable who they're they are indistinguishable who they're they are indistinguishable from each other. They look identical. If from each other. They look identical. If from each other. They look identical. If you 23 and me them, you're not going to you 23 and me them, you're not going to you 23 and me them, you're not going to say, "Oh, these are Catholics and say, "Oh, these are Catholics and say, "Oh, these are Catholics and Protestants." You're gonna say they're Protestants." You're gonna say they're Protestants." You're gonna say they're Irish. And so they're completely um Irish. And so they're completely um Irish. And so they're completely um indistinguishable from that um like indistinguishable from that um like indistinguishable from that um like phenomenological standpoint. However, phenomenological standpoint. However, phenomenological standpoint. However, they'll still kill each other. And once they'll still kill each other. And once they'll still kill each other. And once you understand that they've been killing you understand that they've been killing you understand that they've been killing each other for hundreds of years over each other for hundreds of years over each other for hundreds of years over something that is not visually apparent something that is not visually apparent something that is not visually apparent in their skin color, then hopefully in their skin color, then hopefully in their skin color, then hopefully people understand, okay, when you people understand, okay, when you people understand, okay, when you collide two values that have no interest collide two values that have no interest collide two values that have no interest in meshing with each other, there will in meshing with each other, there will in meshing with each other, there will be violence. And that's the part that be violence. And that's the part that be violence. And that's the part that I'm like, okay, we've got a government I'm like, okay, we've got a government I'm like, okay, we've got a government that really does seem to be trying to that really does seem to be trying to that really does seem to be trying to solve for two problems, economics and solve for two problems, economics and solve for two problems, economics and political power and using immigrants. political power and using immigrants. political power and using immigrants. So, if you're on the right, you're So, if you're on the right, you're So, if you're on the right, you're solving for I've got to keep everything solving for I've got to keep everything solving for I've got to keep everything cheap. If you're on the left, you're cheap. If you're on the left, you're cheap. If you're on the left, you're trying to keep everything cheap and trying to keep everything cheap and trying to keep everything cheap and you're trying to keep voting power you're trying to keep voting power you're trying to keep voting power because you're presumably going to be because you're presumably going to be because you're presumably going to be more government handouts, bigger more government handouts, bigger more government handouts, bigger government wherever possible. And so, government wherever possible. And so, government wherever possible. And so, that becomes just an incredible way to that becomes just an incredible way to that becomes just an incredible way to stay in power. And now it's like, sure, stay in power. And now it's like, sure, stay in power. And now it's like, sure, but you're blinding yourself to the fact but you're blinding yourself to the fact but you're blinding yourself to the fact these groups are going to go to war. And these groups are going to go to war. And these groups are going to go to war. And that's where it's like you have to talk that's where it's like you have to talk that's where it's like you have to talk about it because it's going to keep about it because it's going to keep about it because it's going to keep being a bigger and bigger problem, but being a bigger and bigger problem, but being a bigger and bigger problem, but every time you try to talk about it, every time you try to talk about it, every time you try to talk about it, people just go race. people just go race. people just go race. >> Um, you put a lot of pieces on the table >> Um, you put a lot of pieces on the table >> Um, you put a lot of pieces on the table right there. I feel like that was well right there. I feel like that was well right there. I feel like that was well thought out and well executed. So, I thought out and well executed. So, I thought out and well executed. So, I have no notes. Um, have no notes. Um, have no notes. Um, where do we go from here in the sense of where do we go from here in the sense of where do we go from here in the sense of how do we handle this conversation when how do we handle this conversation when how do we handle this conversation when it seems like more and more people are it seems like more and more people are it seems like more and more people are trying to silence videos, take things trying to silence videos, take things trying to silence videos, take things off the table? How do we do we just have off the table? How do we do we just have off the table? How do we do we just have to similar to the red the red left the to similar to the red the red left the to similar to the red the red left the right left divide in America. Do we just right left divide in America. Do we just right left divide in America. Do we just have to ride this populist moment out have to ride this populist moment out have to ride this populist moment out and then we can have the conversation? and then we can have the conversation? and then we can have the conversation? >> I think I think that would be a real >> I think I think that would be a real >> I think I think that would be a real problem. So I I don't think we have the problem. So I I don't think we have the problem. So I I don't think we have the timeline for that because I'm not yet timeline for that because I'm not yet timeline for that because I'm not yet optimistic that we're going to get out optimistic that we're going to get out optimistic that we're going to get out of this populist moment anytime soon. I of this populist moment anytime soon. I of this populist moment anytime soon. I think the populist moment may carry us think the populist moment may carry us think the populist moment may carry us all the way through the economic all the way through the economic all the way through the economic collapse of America. collapse of America. collapse of America. So that's you know nine years from now So that's you know nine years from now So that's you know nine years from now if nothing changes if nothing changes if nothing changes >> Kevin Walsh and Bessant being >> Kevin Walsh and Bessant being >> Kevin Walsh and Bessant being sophisticated enough uh if you have a sophisticated enough uh if you have a sophisticated enough uh if you have a rightle leaning government for the next rightle leaning government for the next rightle leaning government for the next call it 8 to 12 years you might be able call it 8 to 12 years you might be able call it 8 to 12 years you might be able to slow that decline to slow that decline to slow that decline >> as in immigration or >> as in immigration or >> as in immigration or >> no no because they'll um they'll devalue >> no no because they'll um they'll devalue >> no no because they'll um they'll devalue the dollar so much that the debt will the dollar so much that the debt will the dollar so much that the debt will become less of a burden. um that's become less of a burden. um that's become less of a burden. um that's horrible by the way. I don't want that horrible by the way. I don't want that horrible by the way. I don't want that to sound like a oh yay. It's um they to sound like a oh yay. It's um they to sound like a oh yay. It's um they will just lengthen the period of will just lengthen the period of will just lengthen the period of decline. decline. decline. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Whereas the left will unintentionally >> Whereas the left will unintentionally >> Whereas the left will unintentionally accelerate that period of decline accelerate that period of decline accelerate that period of decline because they'll break the economy. But because they'll break the economy. But because they'll break the economy. But anyway, so it's you're on a finite time anyway, so it's you're on a finite time anyway, so it's you're on a finite time period. Uh right now I see only an period. Uh right now I see only an period. Uh right now I see only an appetite both on the left and the right appetite both on the left and the right appetite both on the left and the right to make things worse. maybe at different to make things worse. maybe at different to make things worse. maybe at different rates, but they're going to make things rates, but they're going to make things rates, but they're going to make things worse, which means you're going to stay worse, which means you're going to stay worse, which means you're going to stay economically insecure, which means economically insecure, which means economically insecure, which means you're going to stay in your emotions, you're going to stay in your emotions, you're going to stay in your emotions, which means by definition, because which means by definition, because which means by definition, because populism is when people ration when they populism is when people ration when they populism is when people ration when they think emotionally. They're scared, think emotionally. They're scared, think emotionally. They're scared, they're thinking emotionally, and so they're thinking emotionally, and so they're thinking emotionally, and so they're being used to get put on teams. they're being used to get put on teams. they're being used to get put on teams. Okay, given that, you're going to have Okay, given that, you're going to have Okay, given that, you're going to have to deal with this now. The only way to to deal with this now. The only way to to deal with this now. The only way to deal with this now is to say, okay, um, deal with this now is to say, okay, um, deal with this now is to say, okay, um, I'm gonna carefully delineate between I'm gonna carefully delineate between I'm gonna carefully delineate between culture and race. And I know that culture and race. And I know that culture and race. And I know that nonetheless I'm going to be called nonetheless I'm going to be called nonetheless I'm going to be called racist and all of that, racist and all of that, racist and all of that, >> but I want to keep, and this would be my >> but I want to keep, and this would be my >> but I want to keep, and this would be my advice to anybody that's going to deal advice to anybody that's going to deal advice to anybody that's going to deal with this subject. I'm going to keep with this subject. I'm going to keep with this subject. I'm going to keep separating those two, and I'm going to separating those two, and I'm going to separating those two, and I'm going to keep relentlessly talking about culture. keep relentlessly talking about culture. keep relentlessly talking about culture. And if you can get people to admit that And if you can get people to admit that And if you can get people to admit that culture matters, if you can get people culture matters, if you can get people culture matters, if you can get people to admit that, uh, England and France, to admit that, uh, England and France, to admit that, uh, England and France, white, white, white, killed each other white, white, white, killed each other white, white, white, killed each other for hundreds of years, uh, because they for hundreds of years, uh, because they for hundreds of years, uh, because they were different cultures. They were were different cultures. They were were different cultures. They were fighting for their own culture, they fighting for their own culture, they fighting for their own culture, they were fighting for a sense of, um, I want were fighting for a sense of, um, I want were fighting for a sense of, um, I want the things you have, you want the things the things you have, you want the things the things you have, you want the things that I have. We can't always cooperate that I have. We can't always cooperate that I have. We can't always cooperate because we see the world differently, because we see the world differently, because we see the world differently, and so we're going to fight. That's just and so we're going to fight. That's just and so we're going to fight. That's just what humans do. So now we have to pause what humans do. So now we have to pause what humans do. So now we have to pause immigration, immigration, immigration, assimilate, see who is going to assimilate, see who is going to assimilate, see who is going to assimilate, put laws in place that force assimilate, put laws in place that force assimilate, put laws in place that force assimilation or inspire people to leave. assimilation or inspire people to leave. assimilation or inspire people to leave. >> I need to drill on that. What does >> I need to drill on that. What does >> I need to drill on that. What does what's a law that will force what's a law that will force what's a law that will force >> assimilation? The easiest one is going >> assimilation? The easiest one is going >> assimilation? The easiest one is going to be um stop doing handouts so that to be um stop doing handouts so that to be um stop doing handouts so that people actually have to contribute to people actually have to contribute to people actually have to contribute to the local economies or otherwise they're the local economies or otherwise they're the local economies or otherwise they're just not going to be able to make ends just not going to be able to make ends just not going to be able to make ends meet and they will leave. um force meet and they will leave. um force meet and they will leave. um force things like we have a national language things like we have a national language things like we have a national language and it is insert your country. Italy and it is insert your country. Italy and it is insert your country. Italy speaks Italian, Japan speaks Japanese, speaks Italian, Japan speaks Japanese, speaks Italian, Japan speaks Japanese, America speaks English, England speaks America speaks English, England speaks America speaks English, England speaks English, uh Ireland speaks Irish, English, uh Ireland speaks Irish, English, uh Ireland speaks Irish, whatever. So you start doing things whatever. So you start doing things whatever. So you start doing things >> language you get deported. >> language you get deported. >> language you get deported. >> It's not necessarily deported because >> It's not necessarily deported because >> It's not necessarily deported because for me, if you've already let someone in for me, if you've already let someone in for me, if you've already let someone in your country and they are a citizen, your country and they are a citizen, your country and they are a citizen, it's game over. You don't get For me, it's game over. You don't get For me, it's game over. You don't get For me, this is my uh view of the world. You this is my uh view of the world. You this is my uh view of the world. You don't get to just kick that person out. don't get to just kick that person out. don't get to just kick that person out. They are a citizen of your country. You They are a citizen of your country. You They are a citizen of your country. You may say, "Oof, we had bad policies back may say, "Oof, we had bad policies back may say, "Oof, we had bad policies back then." Yeah, okay. But like, you had the then." Yeah, okay. But like, you had the then." Yeah, okay. But like, you had the policies. policies. policies. >> Um, so that violates my sense of right >> Um, so that violates my sense of right >> Um, so that violates my sense of right and wrong. So, I've got this person and wrong. So, I've got this person and wrong. So, I've got this person here. They're a citizen. Now, if they're here. They're a citizen. Now, if they're here. They're a citizen. Now, if they're a non-citizen, sure, you can do things, a non-citizen, sure, you can do things, a non-citizen, sure, you can do things, change status, whatever, and say, "Hey, change status, whatever, and say, "Hey, change status, whatever, and say, "Hey, sorry, no more. we're now going to sorry, no more. we're now going to sorry, no more. we're now going to deport people that are violent criminals deport people that are violent criminals deport people that are violent criminals here seeking asylum, whatever you can, here seeking asylum, whatever you can, here seeking asylum, whatever you can, whatever that criteria is going to be. whatever that criteria is going to be. whatever that criteria is going to be. Um, I would advise people to say the Um, I would advise people to say the Um, I would advise people to say the people you actually care about getting people you actually care about getting people you actually care about getting out of your country are the people that out of your country are the people that out of your country are the people that are either um, actively promoting the are either um, actively promoting the are either um, actively promoting the destruction of your culture. So, Japan destruction of your culture. So, Japan destruction of your culture. So, Japan becomes the easiest one to look at becomes the easiest one to look at becomes the easiest one to look at because for whatever reason, I guess because for whatever reason, I guess because for whatever reason, I guess partly because they're Asian, people partly because they're Asian, people partly because they're Asian, people like give them a pass for wanting to like give them a pass for wanting to like give them a pass for wanting to protect their culture in a way that protect their culture in a way that protect their culture in a way that other countries don't get. England other countries don't get. England other countries don't get. England doesn't get that pass. America doesn't doesn't get that pass. America doesn't doesn't get that pass. America doesn't get that pass. But it gets a lot easier get that pass. But it gets a lot easier get that pass. But it gets a lot easier to talk about with Japan. So cool. Uh to talk about with Japan. So cool. Uh to talk about with Japan. So cool. Uh you're Japan. You have a very unique you're Japan. You have a very unique you're Japan. You have a very unique culture. You want to defend that culture. You want to defend that culture. You want to defend that culture. If you have people inside of culture. If you have people inside of culture. If you have people inside of your country that are doing things to your country that are doing things to your country that are doing things to attack that culture, then you're going attack that culture, then you're going attack that culture, then you're going to put things in policy that will um to put things in policy that will um to put things in policy that will um either increase the penalties for those either increase the penalties for those either increase the penalties for those things or just do things like um all things or just do things like um all things or just do things like um all public schools are only available in public schools are only available in public schools are only available in Japanese, all road signs can only be Japanese, all road signs can only be Japanese, all road signs can only be done in Japanese, whatever. Like you done in Japanese, whatever. Like you done in Japanese, whatever. Like you find ways where it's like you're making find ways where it's like you're making find ways where it's like you're making it very clear if you want to be here, it very clear if you want to be here, it very clear if you want to be here, awesome, but here are the things, here awesome, but here are the things, here awesome, but here are the things, here are the norms that we expect you to are the norms that we expect you to are the norms that we expect you to conform to. There are also going to be conform to. There are also going to be conform to. There are also going to be two ways that this battle plays out. And two ways that this battle plays out. And two ways that this battle plays out. And when Jordan Peterson brought this up, when Jordan Peterson brought this up, when Jordan Peterson brought this up, people lost their ever loving minds. Uh people lost their ever loving minds. Uh people lost their ever loving minds. Uh so I don't expect a different reaction, so I don't expect a different reaction, so I don't expect a different reaction, but the reality is it is true. So um as but the reality is it is true. So um as but the reality is it is true. So um as a large society, we have to say these a large society, we have to say these a large society, we have to say these are the things that we tolerate and are the things that we tolerate and are the things that we tolerate and don't tolerate. And that doesn't mean don't tolerate. And that doesn't mean don't tolerate. And that doesn't mean that you walk up to somebody on the that you walk up to somebody on the that you walk up to somebody on the subway and if they're doing something subway and if they're doing something subway and if they're doing something that you don't think fits the national that you don't think fits the national that you don't think fits the national character that you slap them. It's not character that you slap them. It's not character that you slap them. It's not what I'm saying. But what I am saying is what I'm saying. But what I am saying is what I'm saying. But what I am saying is you make it very clear through um social you make it very clear through um social you make it very clear through um social oststerization oststerization oststerization uh through you know literally turning uh through you know literally turning uh through you know literally turning your back on somebody that we don't put your back on somebody that we don't put your back on somebody that we don't put up with that [ __ ] here. So now it can up with that [ __ ] here. So now it can up with that [ __ ] here. So now it can also be that you create like I think also be that you create like I think also be that you create like I think they've done this in Korea. I think they've done this in Korea. I think they've done this in Korea. I think they're flirting with it in Japan that they're flirting with it in Japan that they're flirting with it in Japan that they put nuisance laws on the books. So they put nuisance laws on the books. So they put nuisance laws on the books. So Americans act some type of way. It's Americans act some type of way. It's Americans act some type of way. It's part of our culture. Great. I was once part of our culture. Great. I was once part of our culture. Great. I was once the uh brash American in China and it the uh brash American in China and it the uh brash American in China and it served me incredibly well. I won't lie. served me incredibly well. I won't lie. served me incredibly well. I won't lie. I was about to miss a flight. Everybody I was about to miss a flight. Everybody I was about to miss a flight. Everybody was being so polite. I'm like, "This is was being so polite. I'm like, "This is was being so polite. I'm like, "This is [ __ ] insane. I've been standing in [ __ ] insane. I've been standing in [ __ ] insane. I've been standing in this line for whatever, like 90 minutes, this line for whatever, like 90 minutes, this line for whatever, like 90 minutes, and I'm I have a layover. Like, I've got and I'm I have a layover. Like, I've got and I'm I have a layover. Like, I've got to get to the next flight." So, finally, to get to the next flight." So, finally, to get to the next flight." So, finally, I was like at the front of the line, but I was like at the front of the line, but I was like at the front of the line, but I was clearly if I don't speak up now, I I was clearly if I don't speak up now, I I was clearly if I don't speak up now, I am going to miss my flight. I'm like 21. am going to miss my flight. I'm like 21. am going to miss my flight. I'm like 21. I'm [ __ ] terrified of being stranded I'm [ __ ] terrified of being stranded I'm [ __ ] terrified of being stranded in a country I don't know anything. Uh, in a country I don't know anything. Uh, in a country I don't know anything. Uh, and so I was like, "I'm so sorry, but and so I was like, "I'm so sorry, but and so I was like, "I'm so sorry, but I'm gonna miss my flight." And so I'm gonna miss my flight." And so I'm gonna miss my flight." And so they're like, "Oh my god, please come they're like, "Oh my god, please come they're like, "Oh my god, please come up." They took care of me super easy. up." They took care of me super easy. up." They took care of me super easy. But then everybody else in line suddenly But then everybody else in line suddenly But then everybody else in line suddenly got really pissed and was like, "Well, got really pissed and was like, "Well, got really pissed and was like, "Well, me too. I'm about to miss my flight. Why me too. I'm about to miss my flight. Why me too. I'm about to miss my flight. Why did he get to go?" And I was like, "I did he get to go?" And I was like, "I did he get to go?" And I was like, "I got to go because I was the brash got to go because I was the brash got to go because I was the brash American that spoke up." American that spoke up." American that spoke up." >> So anyway, I get it. If they're going to >> So anyway, I get it. If they're going to >> So anyway, I get it. If they're going to be like, "We don't do that here." And be like, "We don't do that here." And be like, "We don't do that here." And they were like, "Get the [ __ ] get in the they were like, "Get the [ __ ] get in the they were like, "Get the [ __ ] get in the back of the line." Or if they have a back of the line." Or if they have a back of the line." Or if they have a rule that's like up the person who asks, rule that's like up the person who asks, rule that's like up the person who asks, you go all the way to the back of the you go all the way to the back of the you go all the way to the back of the line and I end up missing my flight. line and I end up missing my flight. line and I end up missing my flight. [ __ ] me. That's bad on me. They've got a [ __ ] me. That's bad on me. They've got a [ __ ] me. That's bad on me. They've got a culture. I stepped outside a line. Boom. culture. I stepped outside a line. Boom. culture. I stepped outside a line. Boom. Like, you've got your way of handling Like, you've got your way of handling Like, you've got your way of handling this. this. this. People, countries should absolutely People, countries should absolutely People, countries should absolutely recognize what I'll call soft power of recognize what I'll call soft power of recognize what I'll call soft power of cultural enforcement. Not everything has cultural enforcement. Not everything has cultural enforcement. Not everything has to be the police taking you off, but to be the police taking you off, but to be the police taking you off, but there's going to be some of that. So, there's going to be some of that. So, there's going to be some of that. So, uh, a lot of the streamers acting a fool uh, a lot of the streamers acting a fool uh, a lot of the streamers acting a fool get treated very differently in South get treated very differently in South get treated very differently in South Korea than they're going to get treated Korea than they're going to get treated Korea than they're going to get treated in America. every culture gets to make in America. every culture gets to make in America. every culture gets to make their decision, but that is ultimately their decision, but that is ultimately their decision, but that is ultimately how you're going to have to prosecute how you're going to have to prosecute how you're going to have to prosecute this. I don't think countries have an this. I don't think countries have an this. I don't think countries have an obligation to make themselves a place obligation to make themselves a place obligation to make themselves a place that every migrant from anywhere in the that every migrant from anywhere in the that every migrant from anywhere in the world wants to go. Um, again, Japan, world wants to go. Um, again, Japan, world wants to go. Um, again, Japan, when I was trying to do business in when I was trying to do business in when I was trying to do business in Japan, it felt, I won't say hostile Japan, it felt, I won't say hostile Japan, it felt, I won't say hostile because it didn't feel hostile, but it because it didn't feel hostile, but it because it didn't feel hostile, but it felt like I was running into a wall that felt like I was running into a wall that felt like I was running into a wall that I could not understand. And now the more I could not understand. And now the more I could not understand. And now the more that I research Japan, it's that is that I research Japan, it's that is that I research Japan, it's that is exactly how they um slow the integration exactly how they um slow the integration exactly how they um slow the integration with outsiders is like, oh yes, this is with outsiders is like, oh yes, this is with outsiders is like, oh yes, this is very interesting. Yes, yes, yes. But very interesting. Yes, yes, yes. But very interesting. Yes, yes, yes. But they it's 100% no. they it's 100% no. they it's 100% no. >> And for anybody embedded into Japanese >> And for anybody embedded into Japanese >> And for anybody embedded into Japanese culture, they know in real time that's culture, they know in real time that's culture, they know in real time that's what they say when it's 100% no. But as what they say when it's 100% no. But as what they say when it's 100% no. But as a foreigner, I couldn't tell. a foreigner, I couldn't tell. a foreigner, I couldn't tell. >> So it is um they have that right. >> So it is um they have that right. >> So it is um they have that right. >> Yeah. Uh, okay. The spiciest take in the >> Yeah. Uh, okay. The spiciest take in the >> Yeah. Uh, okay. The spiciest take in the chat actually comes from Ryan. Um, so chat actually comes from Ryan. Um, so chat actually comes from Ryan. Um, so >> Oops. >> Oops. >> Oops. >> You said a lot of this um >> You said a lot of this um >> You said a lot of this um I I don't want to take your words out I I don't want to take your words out I I don't want to take your words out here. You said a lot. here. You said a lot. here. You said a lot. >> Which one is it? Cuz I've been arguing >> Which one is it? Cuz I've been arguing >> Which one is it? Cuz I've been arguing with some [laughter] of the with some [laughter] of the with some [laughter] of the >> You're like this is um a false flag. >> You're like this is um a false flag. >> You're like this is um a false flag. This is just white people trying to put This is just white people trying to put This is just white people trying to put the boots on the neck. the boots on the neck. the boots on the neck. >> Oh, I feel like >> Oh, I feel like >> Oh, I feel like >> I don't want to put [clears throat] >> I don't want to put [clears throat] >> I don't want to put [clears throat] words in your mouth. So, I'm giving you words in your mouth. So, I'm giving you words in your mouth. So, I'm giving you like like like >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I feel like this situation in >> I feel like this situation in >> I feel like this situation in particular, this is particular to this particular, this is particular to this particular, this is particular to this story. story. story. >> Belfast beheading that happened >> Belfast beheading that happened >> Belfast beheading that happened yesterday. I feel like this is a yesterday. I feel like this is a yesterday. I feel like this is a situation where if this guy wasn't situation where if this guy wasn't situation where if this guy wasn't white, we wouldn't be talking about white, we wouldn't be talking about white, we wouldn't be talking about this. I think a lot of times what this. I think a lot of times what this. I think a lot of times what happens in these situations, while there happens in these situations, while there happens in these situations, while there are, you know, valid concerns to be are, you know, valid concerns to be are, you know, valid concerns to be discussed, whatever those may be, with discussed, whatever those may be, with discussed, whatever those may be, with people, I think a lot of times white people, I think a lot of times white people, I think a lot of times white people who are too up in arms about race people who are too up in arms about race people who are too up in arms about race and immigration, tend to put the boot on and immigration, tend to put the boot on and immigration, tend to put the boot on their own head with these types of their own head with these types of their own head with these types of situations in that they are making situations in that they are making situations in that they are making something a bigger deal than it was. something a bigger deal than it was. something a bigger deal than it was. Like I look at this case in particular Like I look at this case in particular Like I look at this case in particular and I'm like, are there serious and I'm like, are there serious and I'm like, are there serious conversations to be had about conversations to be had about conversations to be had about immigration race? For sure. But I don't immigration race? For sure. But I don't immigration race? For sure. But I don't think that's a result of this. I think think that's a result of this. I think think that's a result of this. I think this is just some terrible thing this is just some terrible thing this is just some terrible thing happened and the person needed to be happened and the person needed to be happened and the person needed to be punished, right? They need to get prison punished, right? They need to get prison punished, right? They need to get prison and jail time as they almost killed a and jail time as they almost killed a and jail time as they almost killed a man and it's terrible. But I think it's man and it's terrible. But I think it's man and it's terrible. But I think it's become a race thing when it's doesn't become a race thing when it's doesn't become a race thing when it's doesn't really need to be. really need to be. really need to be. >> Here's the problem. What you're missing >> Here's the problem. What you're missing >> Here's the problem. What you're missing is that back in the 80s, this would have is that back in the 80s, this would have is that back in the 80s, this would have made the news had it been two white made the news had it been two white made the news had it been two white people as long as one of them was people as long as one of them was people as long as one of them was Protestant and the other was Catholic Protestant and the other was Catholic Protestant and the other was Catholic because it became indicative of an because it became indicative of an because it became indicative of an underlying problem that had to be talked underlying problem that had to be talked underlying problem that had to be talked about. Now, it's entirely possible in my about. Now, it's entirely possible in my about. Now, it's entirely possible in my fictional scenario that that person was fictional scenario that that person was fictional scenario that that person was mentally ill and it actually didn't have mentally ill and it actually didn't have mentally ill and it actually didn't have anything to do with Protestants and anything to do with Protestants and anything to do with Protestants and Catholics. And so therefore, on this the Catholics. And so therefore, on this the Catholics. And so therefore, on this the actual like core merits of the case, it actual like core merits of the case, it actual like core merits of the case, it really is more about mental illness. really is more about mental illness. really is more about mental illness. Again, this is a fabricated scenario, Again, this is a fabricated scenario, Again, this is a fabricated scenario, but you'll get the idea but you'll get the idea but you'll get the idea >> that it really was about mental illness >> that it really was about mental illness >> that it really was about mental illness and it wasn't about Catholics and and it wasn't about Catholics and and it wasn't about Catholics and Protestants, but the Catholic and Protestants, but the Catholic and Protestants, but the Catholic and Protestant issue is so real and is Protestant issue is so real and is Protestant issue is so real and is really in the middle of something that really in the middle of something that really in the middle of something that needs to be diffused that it becomes a needs to be diffused that it becomes a needs to be diffused that it becomes a flash point and it gets people talking. flash point and it gets people talking. flash point and it gets people talking. So, the whole idea of never let a good So, the whole idea of never let a good So, the whole idea of never let a good crisis go to waste. So, what you're crisis go to waste. So, what you're crisis go to waste. So, what you're seeing here, you have a real problem seeing here, you have a real problem seeing here, you have a real problem with a collision of cultures. So for with a collision of cultures. So for with a collision of cultures. So for instance, one thing if you really want instance, one thing if you really want instance, one thing if you really want to trigger trigger people say the to trigger trigger people say the to trigger trigger people say the following. There really is such a thing following. There really is such a thing following. There really is such a thing as cultures typically hurting cultures as cultures typically hurting cultures as cultures typically hurting cultures that have this whole idea of honor. And that have this whole idea of honor. And that have this whole idea of honor. And the reason that you end up with an honor the reason that you end up with an honor the reason that you end up with an honor culture when you're herders is that no culture when you're herders is that no culture when you're herders is that no one's coming to protect you. And so if one's coming to protect you. And so if one's coming to protect you. And so if somebody comes and steals your animals somebody comes and steals your animals somebody comes and steals your animals and you don't go [ __ ] them up, then and you don't go [ __ ] them up, then and you don't go [ __ ] them up, then people realize, oh, I can steal Ryan people realize, oh, I can steal Ryan people realize, oh, I can steal Ryan [ __ ] because he doesn't do anything [ __ ] because he doesn't do anything [ __ ] because he doesn't do anything about it. And so you very quickly learn about it. And so you very quickly learn about it. And so you very quickly learn your own team will be like, "Bitch, you your own team will be like, "Bitch, you your own team will be like, "Bitch, you better go do something about that. You better go do something about that. You better go do something about that. You cannot let somebody come and [ __ ] with cannot let somebody come and [ __ ] with cannot let somebody come and [ __ ] with your sheep across the line or whatever your sheep across the line or whatever your sheep across the line or whatever because it really is about livelihood." because it really is about livelihood." because it really is about livelihood." So that culture now has an honor culture So that culture now has an honor culture So that culture now has an honor culture and it is very effective when you're a and it is very effective when you're a and it is very effective when you're a hurting culture and if you don't have hurting culture and if you don't have hurting culture and if you don't have it, you have a real problem. So I it, you have a real problem. So I it, you have a real problem. So I understand how it becomes born of that. understand how it becomes born of that. understand how it becomes born of that. Now, what ends up happening is if you Now, what ends up happening is if you Now, what ends up happening is if you migrate that to a place where it doesn't migrate that to a place where it doesn't migrate that to a place where it doesn't make sense, you've got to get rid of make sense, you've got to get rid of make sense, you've got to get rid of that cultural problem. A thing that that cultural problem. A thing that that cultural problem. A thing that makes sense back in say Scotland, makes sense back in say Scotland, makes sense back in say Scotland, because this is actually what happened because this is actually what happened because this is actually what happened in the US, you have a bunch of these in the US, you have a bunch of these in the US, you have a bunch of these Scottish guys that come over to America, Scottish guys that come over to America, Scottish guys that come over to America, become part of the founding fathers. become part of the founding fathers. become part of the founding fathers. They're still [ __ ] dueling. And They're still [ __ ] dueling. And They're still [ __ ] dueling. And everyone's like, "What the [ __ ] are you everyone's like, "What the [ __ ] are you everyone's like, "What the [ __ ] are you doing?" Like, that might have made sense doing?" Like, that might have made sense doing?" Like, that might have made sense back when you were hurting. It doesn't back when you were hurting. It doesn't back when you were hurting. It doesn't make sense now. So whatever the [ __ ] make sense now. So whatever the [ __ ] make sense now. So whatever the [ __ ] we've got to put this soft cultural we've got to put this soft cultural we've got to put this soft cultural power to say we don't do that in power to say we don't do that in power to say we don't do that in America. And so we end up diffusing America. And so we end up diffusing America. And so we end up diffusing that. And we would think it ridiculous that. And we would think it ridiculous that. And we would think it ridiculous if two politicians started dueling now. if two politicians started dueling now. if two politicians started dueling now. We'd be like, "Guys, this is the most We'd be like, "Guys, this is the most We'd be like, "Guys, this is the most idiotic thing in the known universe." idiotic thing in the known universe." idiotic thing in the known universe." And so when people try to say like, "Oh, And so when people try to say like, "Oh, And so when people try to say like, "Oh, this horrific thing happened and now this horrific thing happened and now this horrific thing happened and now we're just [ __ ] making it about we're just [ __ ] making it about we're just [ __ ] making it about race." And you're pretending there's not race." And you're pretending there's not race." And you're pretending there's not this huge brewing thing that a culture this huge brewing thing that a culture this huge brewing thing that a culture has imported. and I'll point right at has imported. and I'll point right at has imported. and I'll point right at Pakistan. So, for whatever reason, the Pakistan. So, for whatever reason, the Pakistan. So, for whatever reason, the part of Pakistani culture that says, um, part of Pakistani culture that says, um, part of Pakistani culture that says, um, hey, my if I call my cousin up and I'm hey, my if I call my cousin up and I'm hey, my if I call my cousin up and I'm like, yo, let's go rape this girl. That like, yo, let's go rape this girl. That like, yo, let's go rape this girl. That I can expect that my cousin's going to I can expect that my cousin's going to I can expect that my cousin's going to be like, yeah, dope. Now, if my cousin be like, yeah, dope. Now, if my cousin be like, yeah, dope. Now, if my cousin called me and said that, I'd be like, called me and said that, I'd be like, called me and said that, I'd be like, the [ __ ] is wrong with you? So, that's the [ __ ] is wrong with you? So, that's the [ __ ] is wrong with you? So, that's going to be, you know, a thing we're, going to be, you know, a thing we're, going to be, you know, a thing we're, and now admittedly, I'm maybe not as and now admittedly, I'm maybe not as and now admittedly, I'm maybe not as tight-knit with my cousins as you would tight-knit with my cousins as you would tight-knit with my cousins as you would be in Pakistan. And maybe we go, but the be in Pakistan. And maybe we go, but the be in Pakistan. And maybe we go, but the tight-knitness of the family, there's tight-knitness of the family, there's tight-knitness of the family, there's dope. We love that. But it's playing out dope. We love that. But it's playing out dope. We love that. But it's playing out in this context, possibly because it's in this context, possibly because it's in this context, possibly because it's mixed with religious ideology that says, mixed with religious ideology that says, mixed with religious ideology that says, well, if they're not of my religion, well, if they're not of my religion, well, if they're not of my religion, then they're lesser than, and this is then they're lesser than, and this is then they're lesser than, and this is okay. Obviously going to be hotly okay. Obviously going to be hotly okay. Obviously going to be hotly contested, but I'm saying if you put contested, but I'm saying if you put contested, but I'm saying if you put ideas like that together, you start ideas like that together, you start ideas like that together, you start getting a disproportionate per capita getting a disproportionate per capita getting a disproportionate per capita thing happening. I'm talking about the thing happening. I'm talking about the thing happening. I'm talking about the rape gangs, right? And so it was a rape gangs, right? And so it was a rape gangs, right? And so it was a wildly disproportionate number of wildly disproportionate number of wildly disproportionate number of Pakistani men that were involved in this Pakistani men that were involved in this Pakistani men that were involved in this very specific thing. And so if we can't very specific thing. And so if we can't very specific thing. And so if we can't talk about that that oh there's an echo talk about that that oh there's an echo talk about that that oh there's an echo of culture happening here that's where of culture happening here that's where of culture happening here that's where it deranges and we're not able to have it deranges and we're not able to have it deranges and we're not able to have like the real conversation. So for like the real conversation. So for like the real conversation. So for instance people are going to say whoa instance people are going to say whoa instance people are going to say whoa whoa whoa Tom that's ridiculous. It's whoa whoa Tom that's ridiculous. It's whoa whoa Tom that's ridiculous. It's not about that. It's about poverty. It's not about that. It's about poverty. It's not about that. It's about poverty. It's about the stress of being in a new place about the stress of being in a new place about the stress of being in a new place and all of that. It's like okay let's and all of that. It's like okay let's and all of that. It's like okay let's break that down on its merits. do we break that down on its merits. do we break that down on its merits. do we actually see that survive contact with actually see that survive contact with actually see that survive contact with the data? Uh, and so we'll probably get the data? Uh, and so we'll probably get the data? Uh, and so we'll probably get more into that with the metaf thing. You more into that with the metaf thing. You more into that with the metaf thing. You you start getting into things where the you start getting into things where the you start getting into things where the arguments just don't match the data. And arguments just don't match the data. And arguments just don't match the data. And that's where it's like if you actually that's where it's like if you actually that's where it's like if you actually want to solve the problem and diffuse want to solve the problem and diffuse want to solve the problem and diffuse the bomb, you have to admit you I would the bomb, you have to admit you I would the bomb, you have to admit you I would say this will always be nonsensical say this will always be nonsensical say this will always be nonsensical forever if you don't agree that we live forever if you don't agree that we live forever if you don't agree that we live in a deterministic universe. And all I in a deterministic universe. And all I in a deterministic universe. And all I mean by that is everything is cause and mean by that is everything is cause and mean by that is everything is cause and effect. And so a thing is happening, a effect. And so a thing is happening, a effect. And so a thing is happening, a pattern is forming. It has a knowable pattern is forming. It has a knowable pattern is forming. It has a knowable cause and effect. Now, we may not have cause and effect. Now, we may not have cause and effect. Now, we may not have identified the actual cause and effect identified the actual cause and effect identified the actual cause and effect yet, but it is there to be discovered if yet, but it is there to be discovered if yet, but it is there to be discovered if we're willing to look at it. The problem we're willing to look at it. The problem we're willing to look at it. The problem is so far we haven't been willing to is so far we haven't been willing to is so far we haven't been willing to look at it. We just immediately look at it. We just immediately look at it. We just immediately terminate at um well, this is just terminate at um well, this is just terminate at um well, this is just racism. And because it is so closely racism. And because it is so closely racism. And because it is so closely correlated, people stop there and go, correlated, people stop there and go, correlated, people stop there and go, "Yeah, it probably really is race." And "Yeah, it probably really is race." And "Yeah, it probably really is race." And so that's the thing that worries me is so that's the thing that worries me is so that's the thing that worries me is that people aren't really trying to get that people aren't really trying to get that people aren't really trying to get to the underlying, okay, what's the to the underlying, okay, what's the to the underlying, okay, what's the mechanism of this? Like even if we were mechanism of this? Like even if we were mechanism of this? Like even if we were going to say this is racism, what's the going to say this is racism, what's the going to say this is racism, what's the mechanism? And if you just stop at, mechanism? And if you just stop at, mechanism? And if you just stop at, well, white people are racist [ __ ] well, white people are racist [ __ ] well, white people are racist [ __ ] you're not going to get very far. And you're not going to get very far. And you're not going to get very far. And that's where it's like, okay, well, that's where it's like, okay, well, that's where it's like, okay, well, break down for me. Why do white people break down for me. Why do white people break down for me. Why do white people in particular become racist [ __ ] in particular become racist [ __ ] in particular become racist [ __ ] Like, is there actually a reason? I my Like, is there actually a reason? I my Like, is there actually a reason? I my hypothesis is that that won't survive hypothesis is that that won't survive hypothesis is that that won't survive contact with the data and that white contact with the data and that white contact with the data and that white people are not more racist than the next people are not more racist than the next people are not more racist than the next group hypothesis. So you you can test group hypothesis. So you you can test group hypothesis. So you you can test these things. All of them make a these things. All of them make a these things. All of them make a prediction. But right now it's it's prediction. But right now it's it's prediction. But right now it's it's playing out at the level of emotion, not playing out at the level of emotion, not playing out at the level of emotion, not at the level of data. And that's where I at the level of data. And that's where I at the level of data. And that's where I think we derange each other. I think think we derange each other. I think think we derange each other. I think that's then we're on the same page that's then we're on the same page that's then we're on the same page because what I would say is the emotion because what I would say is the emotion because what I would say is the emotion I think is the problem with everyone I think is the problem with everyone I think is the problem with everyone reacting to the situation because I reacting to the situation because I reacting to the situation because I think what you're describing is two very think what you're describing is two very think what you're describing is two very distinct situations. One which is the distinct situations. One which is the distinct situations. One which is the immigration conversation but also one immigration conversation but also one immigration conversation but also one which is a man killed another or tried which is a man killed another or tried which is a man killed another or tried to kill another man, right? And I think to kill another man, right? And I think to kill another man, right? And I think to me those are distinctly different to me those are distinctly different to me those are distinctly different conversations. My problem comes in when conversations. My problem comes in when conversations. My problem comes in when people start like online because this is people start like online because this is people start like online because this is more an online thing, right? Because I more an online thing, right? Because I more an online thing, right? Because I feel like us on the show, we're always feel like us on the show, we're always feel like us on the show, we're always looking at the full picture, but with looking at the full picture, but with looking at the full picture, but with people online, it's like you said, people online, it's like you said, people online, it's like you said, they're jumping too quickly to, oh, this they're jumping too quickly to, oh, this they're jumping too quickly to, oh, this is just people of color attacking white is just people of color attacking white is just people of color attacking white people. And I feel like that's there is people. And I feel like that's there is people. And I feel like that's there is more to it. It's not just that, right? I more to it. It's not just that, right? I more to it. It's not just that, right? I think that's where my disconnect is in think that's where my disconnect is in think that's where my disconnect is in the whole boot on their head kind of the whole boot on their head kind of the whole boot on their head kind of thing. thing. thing. >> Yeah. When Florida man was eating >> Yeah. When Florida man was eating >> Yeah. When Florida man was eating people's faces off, it wasn't a we need people's faces off, it wasn't a we need people's faces off, it wasn't a we need to talk about asslation in culture. It to talk about asslation in culture. It to talk about asslation in culture. It was, oh well, we need to feel bad for was, oh well, we need to feel bad for was, oh well, we need to feel bad for him because it's drugs. And so it's like him because it's drugs. And so it's like him because it's drugs. And so it's like the default response to the um results. the default response to the um results. the default response to the um results. That's actually so you're bringing up a That's actually so you're bringing up a That's actually so you're bringing up a really interesting point that I have not really interesting point that I have not really interesting point that I have not heard anybody categorize and it might be heard anybody categorize and it might be heard anybody categorize and it might be worth us starting to do that. So you'll worth us starting to do that. So you'll worth us starting to do that. So you'll have a hierarchy of immediate emotional have a hierarchy of immediate emotional have a hierarchy of immediate emotional explanations for a thing. explanations for a thing. explanations for a thing. >> Like for instance I look at the Carmelo >> Like for instance I look at the Carmelo >> Like for instance I look at the Carmelo Anthony um Metcafe, forget his first Anthony um Metcafe, forget his first Anthony um Metcafe, forget his first name, but that um whole thing I don't name, but that um whole thing I don't name, but that um whole thing I don't see there. I don't see evidence that see there. I don't see evidence that see there. I don't see evidence that it's race. I didn't hear them saying it's race. I didn't hear them saying it's race. I didn't hear them saying racial epithets to each other. No one's racial epithets to each other. No one's racial epithets to each other. No one's reported that as far as I know. So it's reported that as far as I know. So it's reported that as far as I know. So it's like you had a black guy and a white guy like you had a black guy and a white guy like you had a black guy and a white guy in an altercation. in an altercation. in an altercation. >> Uh but I don't know that that was what >> Uh but I don't know that that was what >> Uh but I don't know that that was what caused the altercation. caused the altercation. caused the altercation. >> So on that level, it's okay. We've got >> So on that level, it's okay. We've got >> So on that level, it's okay. We've got to police a crime. Now it is being read to police a crime. Now it is being read to police a crime. Now it is being read in the public as a thing about race. It in the public as a thing about race. It in the public as a thing about race. It has gained prominence and national has gained prominence and national has gained prominence and national attention because of the race. And if attention because of the race. And if attention because of the race. And if the race factor wasn't there, to Ryan's the race factor wasn't there, to Ryan's the race factor wasn't there, to Ryan's point, point, point, >> I don't think this one would catch fire. >> I don't think this one would catch fire. >> I don't think this one would catch fire. But it's so easy to give examples where But it's so easy to give examples where But it's so easy to give examples where it does catch fire, even though race it does catch fire, even though race it does catch fire, even though race isn't involved because there's a isn't involved because there's a isn't involved because there's a different underlying issue, Catholics different underlying issue, Catholics different underlying issue, Catholics and Protestants. So that's where it's and Protestants. So that's where it's and Protestants. So that's where it's like, okay, race is clearly a thing that like, okay, race is clearly a thing that like, okay, race is clearly a thing that we're going to have to address. Like, we we're going to have to address. Like, we we're going to have to address. Like, we have to figure out why this becomes that have to figure out why this becomes that have to figure out why this becomes that immediate thing. So, in the like immediate thing. So, in the like immediate thing. So, in the like hierarchy of emotional things that I'm hierarchy of emotional things that I'm hierarchy of emotional things that I'm going to grab for, when it's going to grab for, when it's going to grab for, when it's white-on-white crime, obviously I'm not white-on-white crime, obviously I'm not white-on-white crime, obviously I'm not grabbing for race, at least in an grabbing for race, at least in an grabbing for race, at least in an American context. It's very less likely American context. It's very less likely American context. It's very less likely to be um something about uh religion. to be um something about uh religion. to be um something about uh religion. But let's say that we had a white Muslim But let's say that we had a white Muslim But let's say that we had a white Muslim attack a white guy, okay? Can't grab for attack a white guy, okay? Can't grab for attack a white guy, okay? Can't grab for race, but if that guy is like banging race, but if that guy is like banging race, but if that guy is like banging the drum for ISIS, oh, guaranteed. Now the drum for ISIS, oh, guaranteed. Now the drum for ISIS, oh, guaranteed. Now all of a sudden it's Muslims, it's all of a sudden it's Muslims, it's all of a sudden it's Muslims, it's immigration. It that will happen immigration. It that will happen immigration. It that will happen immediately. And then people are gonna immediately. And then people are gonna immediately. And then people are gonna go, "Wait, this is obviously a madeup go, "Wait, this is obviously a madeup go, "Wait, this is obviously a madeup scenario." But wait, that white guy, he scenario." But wait, that white guy, he scenario." But wait, that white guy, he was he's an American citizen, dude. Like was he's an American citizen, dude. Like was he's an American citizen, dude. Like he his family can trace their ancestry he his family can trace their ancestry he his family can trace their ancestry back to [ __ ] Plymouth Rock. Like what back to [ __ ] Plymouth Rock. Like what back to [ __ ] Plymouth Rock. Like what are you talking about? are you talking about? are you talking about? >> And he becomes a radical left. Is is >> And he becomes a radical left. Is is >> And he becomes a radical left. Is is that's what's that's what that's what's that's what that's what's that's what >> maybe or it goes to well we let all >> maybe or it goes to well we let all >> maybe or it goes to well we let all these Muslims in and they're now these Muslims in and they're now these Muslims in and they're now converting our own. This is why we converting our own. This is why we converting our own. This is why we really got to stand up. And so people really got to stand up. And so people really got to stand up. And so people will grab or it could be exactly what will grab or it could be exactly what will grab or it could be exactly what you're saying. Uh no, no, no. This is uh you're saying. Uh no, no, no. This is uh you're saying. Uh no, no, no. This is uh the radical left is the problem and we the radical left is the problem and we the radical left is the problem and we got to [ __ ] get rid of these guys. got to [ __ ] get rid of these guys. got to [ __ ] get rid of these guys. They tolerate anything. This is They tolerate anything. This is They tolerate anything. This is [ __ ] So it's like we we've got [ __ ] So it's like we we've got [ __ ] So it's like we we've got these different cassette tapes that we these different cassette tapes that we these different cassette tapes that we can punch in to make sure said thing can punch in to make sure said thing can punch in to make sure said thing fits our narrative. And that's where fits our narrative. And that's where fits our narrative. And that's where it's like, okay, hold on. Like let's it's like, okay, hold on. Like let's it's like, okay, hold on. Like let's break this down. What's the actual cause break this down. What's the actual cause break this down. What's the actual cause and effect here? Now the bad news is um and effect here? Now the bad news is um and effect here? Now the bad news is um if if if the meme now of course would be America the meme now of course would be America the meme now of course would be America if America rolls up on your door and if America rolls up on your door and if America rolls up on your door and America is saying uh we're here to bring America is saying uh we're here to bring America is saying uh we're here to bring you freedom and you have oil all of a you freedom and you have oil all of a you freedom and you have oil all of a sudden I'm like uhoh the cover story sudden I'm like uhoh the cover story sudden I'm like uhoh the cover story might not match the reality. And so if might not match the reality. And so if might not match the reality. And so if people said Americans act in this type people said Americans act in this type people said Americans act in this type of way they are imperialistic. They are of way they are imperialistic. They are of way they are imperialistic. They are trying to get access to the resources of trying to get access to the resources of trying to get access to the resources of the world. I'd be like, the world. I'd be like, the world. I'd be like, there's a lot of evidence there that there's a lot of evidence there that there's a lot of evidence there that really might be true. And so now it's really might be true. And so now it's really might be true. And so now it's like, we've got to contend with that. like, we've got to contend with that. like, we've got to contend with that. Now, if the data doesn't back it up and Now, if the data doesn't back it up and Now, if the data doesn't back it up and somebody can show me that America somebody can show me that America somebody can show me that America doesn't act in America's best resource doesn't act in America's best resource doesn't act in America's best resource controlling interest way, cool, I'll controlling interest way, cool, I'll controlling interest way, cool, I'll accept the data. But right now, my swag accept the data. But right now, my swag accept the data. But right now, my swag is, yeah, America really does do that. is, yeah, America really does do that. is, yeah, America really does do that. So that's where it's like, yeah, you've So that's where it's like, yeah, you've So that's where it's like, yeah, you've got a bunch of cassette tapes you can got a bunch of cassette tapes you can got a bunch of cassette tapes you can play. Some of them will survive contact play. Some of them will survive contact play. Some of them will survive contact with the data, others will not. with the data, others will not. with the data, others will not. Sometimes it'll be a confluence of Sometimes it'll be a confluence of Sometimes it'll be a confluence of things, but if you're careful to tease things, but if you're careful to tease things, but if you're careful to tease them out and when you hear somebody make them out and when you hear somebody make them out and when you hear somebody make the claim, you don't just go, "Shut up, the claim, you don't just go, "Shut up, the claim, you don't just go, "Shut up, racist." You go, "All right, cool. Let's racist." You go, "All right, cool. Let's racist." You go, "All right, cool. Let's have a good faith conversation." And if have a good faith conversation." And if have a good faith conversation." And if the person is just completely in their the person is just completely in their the person is just completely in their feels, then it's like, "Okay, this is an feels, then it's like, "Okay, this is an feels, then it's like, "Okay, this is an emotional conversation. We are not going emotional conversation. We are not going emotional conversation. We are not going to make progress. Ground this for me in to make progress. Ground this for me in to make progress. Ground this for me in a set of facts so that we can talk about a set of facts so that we can talk about a set of facts so that we can talk about those set of facts and then we can just those set of facts and then we can just those set of facts and then we can just follow the logical thing." But what ends follow the logical thing." But what ends follow the logical thing." But what ends up happening either somebody doesn't up happening either somebody doesn't up happening either somebody doesn't know the facts so they have to stay know the facts so they have to stay know the facts so they have to stay emotional or they encounter a fact that emotional or they encounter a fact that emotional or they encounter a fact that they do not like and so they break they do not like and so they break they do not like and so they break emotional it goes ad homonym and that's emotional it goes ad homonym and that's emotional it goes ad homonym and that's where it's like again soft power of where it's like again soft power of where it's like again soft power of culture we need to push back and go oh culture we need to push back and go oh culture we need to push back and go oh see this person just went emotional here see this person just went emotional here see this person just went emotional here so great example of somebody who's an so great example of somebody who's an so great example of somebody who's an extraordinary orator I think a very extraordinary orator I think a very extraordinary orator I think a very clear thinker an exceptional uh member clear thinker an exceptional uh member clear thinker an exceptional uh member of the help me think through difficult of the help me think through difficult of the help me think through difficult problems intellectual crowd problems intellectual crowd problems intellectual crowd but derailed in a certain argument. Um but derailed in a certain argument. Um but derailed in a certain argument. Um was Oh god, now I'm blanking on his was Oh god, now I'm blanking on his was Oh god, now I'm blanking on his name. Uh he was on Rogan with um Smith. name. Uh he was on Rogan with um Smith. name. Uh he was on Rogan with um Smith. They were talking about Israel. God They were talking about Israel. God They were talking about Israel. God >> Douglas Murray. Thank you. Douglas >> Douglas Murray. Thank you. Douglas >> Douglas Murray. Thank you. Douglas Murray, if you uh clock him as being Murray, if you uh clock him as being Murray, if you uh clock him as being dumb. That's a full [ __ ] statement. dumb. That's a full [ __ ] statement. dumb. That's a full [ __ ] statement. That's somebody who's in their fields. That's somebody who's in their fields. That's somebody who's in their fields. They're not making any sense. Douglas is They're not making any sense. Douglas is They're not making any sense. Douglas is very intelligent. He's very articulate. very intelligent. He's very articulate. very intelligent. He's very articulate. He can build his arguments based on He can build his arguments based on He can build his arguments based on reason and rationality. However, in that reason and rationality. However, in that reason and rationality. However, in that debate, he did not. And so to be able to debate, he did not. And so to be able to debate, he did not. And so to be able to go, "Oh, that's interesting." Like, he go, "Oh, that's interesting." Like, he go, "Oh, that's interesting." Like, he hit an ejection point here, that was hit an ejection point here, that was hit an ejection point here, that was purely emotional. Why the [ __ ] did he do purely emotional. Why the [ __ ] did he do purely emotional. Why the [ __ ] did he do that? That's so weird. And so if when that? That's so weird. And so if when that? That's so weird. And so if when that happens, because nobody's going to that happens, because nobody's going to that happens, because nobody's going to be perfect. Nobody's going to bat a be perfect. Nobody's going to bat a be perfect. Nobody's going to bat a thousand. You go, "Ah, well, he clearly thousand. You go, "Ah, well, he clearly thousand. You go, "Ah, well, he clearly lost that one because he took the lost that one because he took the lost that one because he took the strange emotional exit ramp out of the strange emotional exit ramp out of the strange emotional exit ramp out of the facts." And so what the [ __ ] Um, if we facts." And so what the [ __ ] Um, if we facts." And so what the [ __ ] Um, if we can take each moment like that, we might can take each moment like that, we might can take each moment like that, we might actually be able to make progress as a actually be able to make progress as a actually be able to make progress as a society. If we can't and everybody just society. If we can't and everybody just society. If we can't and everybody just like, "Yeah, that feels so [ __ ] good. like, "Yeah, that feels so [ __ ] good. like, "Yeah, that feels so [ __ ] good. I just want the emotion." Then we're I just want the emotion." Then we're I just want the emotion." Then we're going to be in trouble. And so that's going to be in trouble. And so that's going to be in trouble. And so that's the one where I'm not entirely sure the one where I'm not entirely sure the one where I'm not entirely sure we're going to be able to pull our way we're going to be able to pull our way we're going to be able to pull our way out of this. Uh but nonetheless, it the out of this. Uh but nonetheless, it the out of this. Uh but nonetheless, it the facts remain there for all of us to facts remain there for all of us to facts remain there for all of us to avail ourselves of at any time. And this avail ourselves of at any time. And this avail ourselves of at any time. And this is like it's so interesting to me is like it's so interesting to me is like it's so interesting to me because obviously people can rightly because obviously people can rightly because obviously people can rightly make the claim this guy used to be so make the claim this guy used to be so make the claim this guy used to be so positive. He used to like just talk positive. He used to like just talk positive. He used to like just talk about mindset and how to uplift about mindset and how to uplift about mindset and how to uplift everybody. And now he talks about all everybody. And now he talks about all everybody. And now he talks about all these dark subjects. For me, this is these dark subjects. For me, this is these dark subjects. For me, this is mindset aimed at these incredibly mindset aimed at these incredibly mindset aimed at these incredibly difficult conversations. So whether I'm difficult conversations. So whether I'm difficult conversations. So whether I'm trying to um make my marriage better, trying to um make my marriage better, trying to um make my marriage better, make more money, whatever. I'm just make more money, whatever. I'm just make more money, whatever. I'm just like, okay, I'm here. My goal is there. like, okay, I'm here. My goal is there. like, okay, I'm here. My goal is there. There's some problem, some obstacle that There's some problem, some obstacle that There's some problem, some obstacle that stands between me and where I want to stands between me and where I want to stands between me and where I want to get to, but I now have to face whatever get to, but I now have to face whatever get to, but I now have to face whatever is true. And often times the shitty true is true. And often times the shitty true is true. And often times the shitty true thing is I'm not good enough at thing is I'm not good enough at thing is I'm not good enough at something yet. I'm doing something something yet. I'm doing something something yet. I'm doing something stupid. Now, if I'm willing to take that stupid. Now, if I'm willing to take that stupid. Now, if I'm willing to take that on board, then the cause and effect of on board, then the cause and effect of on board, then the cause and effect of life, the universe, comes to my aid and life, the universe, comes to my aid and life, the universe, comes to my aid and I can now get where I want to go. I can now get where I want to go. I can now get where I want to go. >> But if I'm like, "No, [ __ ] that." Like, >> But if I'm like, "No, [ __ ] that." Like, >> But if I'm like, "No, [ __ ] that." Like, I'm never going to get there. It's I'm never going to get there. It's I'm never going to get there. It's always got to be cause and effect. always got to be cause and effect. always got to be cause and effect. >> Um, you queued up the uh Carmelo thing. >> Um, you queued up the uh Carmelo thing. >> Um, you queued up the uh Carmelo thing. Let's uh touch base on that. Yeah. Let's uh touch base on that. Yeah. Let's uh touch base on that. Yeah. >> Um, he got 35 years. Geez. >> Um, he got 35 years. Geez. >> Um, he got 35 years. Geez. >> 35 years, boys and girls. A Colin County >> 35 years, boys and girls. A Colin County >> 35 years, boys and girls. A Colin County jury convicted. He was 17 at the time he jury convicted. He was 17 at the time he jury convicted. He was 17 at the time he committed the crime. He's 19 now. committed the crime. He's 19 now. committed the crime. He's 19 now. Carmemelllo Anthony. Uh he was convicted Carmemelllo Anthony. Uh he was convicted Carmemelllo Anthony. Uh he was convicted of murder for the 2025 stabbing of then of murder for the 2025 stabbing of then of murder for the 2025 stabbing of then 17-year-old Austin Metaf. Uh the 12 17-year-old Austin Metaf. Uh the 12 17-year-old Austin Metaf. Uh the 12 jurors deliberated for only about three jurors deliberated for only about three jurors deliberated for only about three hours, which is almost always a bad sign hours, which is almost always a bad sign hours, which is almost always a bad sign for the defense. Uh they ended up for the defense. Uh they ended up for the defense. Uh they ended up sentencing him to 35 years. Um they sentencing him to 35 years. Um they sentencing him to 35 years. Um they could have sentenced him all the way to could have sentenced him all the way to could have sentenced him all the way to 99 years. So, while I know people are um 99 years. So, while I know people are um 99 years. So, while I know people are um not ne some people are not necessarily not ne some people are not necessarily not ne some people are not necessarily happy with 35 years, actually was a happy with 35 years, actually was a happy with 35 years, actually was a fairly middleof the road sentence uh for fairly middleof the road sentence uh for fairly middleof the road sentence uh for what they could have done. He'll be what they could have done. He'll be what they could have done. He'll be eligible for parole in 17 years. So, by eligible for parole in 17 years. So, by eligible for parole in 17 years. So, by Texas state law, he has to serve at Texas state law, he has to serve at Texas state law, he has to serve at least half of the sentence. Obviously, least half of the sentence. Obviously, least half of the sentence. Obviously, they're going to appeal it, but if it they're going to appeal it, but if it they're going to appeal it, but if it stands, uh he'll spend at least 17 and a stands, uh he'll spend at least 17 and a stands, uh he'll spend at least 17 and a half years. Now, the story in the media half years. Now, the story in the media half years. Now, the story in the media is one that's being entirely consumed by is one that's being entirely consumed by is one that's being entirely consumed by race narratives for reasons of race narratives for reasons of race narratives for reasons of everything that we've just been talking everything that we've just been talking everything that we've just been talking about. Uh, but the facts that were about. Uh, but the facts that were about. Uh, but the facts that were presented in the court were pretty presented in the court were pretty presented in the court were pretty straightforward. So, on uh April 2nd of straightforward. So, on uh April 2nd of straightforward. So, on uh April 2nd of 2025, both boys were 17. Anthony uh was 2025, both boys were 17. Anthony uh was 2025, both boys were 17. Anthony uh was a Centennial High athlete. He entered a Centennial High athlete. He entered a Centennial High athlete. He entered into the rival Memorial High team's tent into the rival Memorial High team's tent into the rival Memorial High team's tent at a Frisco track meet. Witnesses at a Frisco track meet. Witnesses at a Frisco track meet. Witnesses testified that Carmelo was asked to testified that Carmelo was asked to testified that Carmelo was asked to leave by several students, including leave by several students, including leave by several students, including Metaf, as many as 15 times, but he Metaf, as many as 15 times, but he Metaf, as many as 15 times, but he refused. Metaf approached Anthony and refused. Metaf approached Anthony and refused. Metaf approached Anthony and told him to move. Anthony reached into told him to move. Anthony reached into told him to move. Anthony reached into his back uh his backpack and said, his back uh his backpack and said, his back uh his backpack and said, "Touch me and see what happens." When "Touch me and see what happens." When "Touch me and see what happens." When Metaf shoved him, Anthony pulled a three Metaf shoved him, Anthony pulled a three Metaf shoved him, Anthony pulled a three and a half inch folding knife and and a half inch folding knife and and a half inch folding knife and stabbed um Metaf once in the chest and stabbed um Metaf once in the chest and stabbed um Metaf once in the chest and then took off running. A witness ended then took off running. A witness ended then took off running. A witness ended up showing police where he had dumped up showing police where he had dumped up showing police where he had dumped the knife. Um, and the wound ended up the knife. Um, and the wound ended up the knife. Um, and the wound ended up piercing Metaf's heart. Medical piercing Metaf's heart. Medical piercing Metaf's heart. Medical examiner, Dr. Elizabeth Ventura, examiner, Dr. Elizabeth Ventura, examiner, Dr. Elizabeth Ventura, described it as a large, gaping, non-s described it as a large, gaping, non-s described it as a large, gaping, non-s survivable injury. Uh, a coach on the survivable injury. Uh, a coach on the survivable injury. Uh, a coach on the scene did apply pressure. Uh, there was scene did apply pressure. Uh, there was scene did apply pressure. Uh, there was somebody else that was performing C CPR. somebody else that was performing C CPR. somebody else that was performing C CPR. Uh, but it didn't work and Metaf ended Uh, but it didn't work and Metaf ended Uh, but it didn't work and Metaf ended up dying at the hospital. In body cam up dying at the hospital. In body cam up dying at the hospital. In body cam footage that was played at the trial, footage that was played at the trial, footage that was played at the trial, Anthony told the officer um that I'm not Anthony told the officer um that I'm not Anthony told the officer um that I'm not alleged. I did it. Uh, he put his hands alleged. I did it. Uh, he put his hands alleged. I did it. Uh, he put his hands on me. I told him not to. Prosecutors on me. I told him not to. Prosecutors on me. I told him not to. Prosecutors called 21 witnesses during the trial. called 21 witnesses during the trial. called 21 witnesses during the trial. Students described Anthony as the Students described Anthony as the Students described Anthony as the aggressor, that he was quote looking for aggressor, that he was quote looking for aggressor, that he was quote looking for a fight, uh, and called it lethal force a fight, uh, and called it lethal force a fight, uh, and called it lethal force against non-lethal force. DA Bill Worski against non-lethal force. DA Bill Worski against non-lethal force. DA Bill Worski said, "You don't get to meet a shove said, "You don't get to meet a shove said, "You don't get to meet a shove with a stab, especially if you provoke with a stab, especially if you provoke with a stab, especially if you provoke the shove." The defense argued the shove." The defense argued the shove." The defense argued self-defense and rested without putting self-defense and rested without putting self-defense and rested without putting Anthony on the stand. A decision that a Anthony on the stand. A decision that a Anthony on the stand. A decision that a lot of pundits are now questioning lot of pundits are now questioning lot of pundits are now questioning giving the outcome of the trial. But it giving the outcome of the trial. But it giving the outcome of the trial. But it is possible that that was the best is possible that that was the best is possible that that was the best option of look being on the stand is a option of look being on the stand is a option of look being on the stand is a very difficult thing. You subject very difficult thing. You subject very difficult thing. You subject yourself to being cross-examined. Uh and yourself to being cross-examined. Uh and yourself to being cross-examined. Uh and so that one's tough and you never get to so that one's tough and you never get to so that one's tough and you never get to run the counterfactual. Uh so it run the counterfactual. Uh so it run the counterfactual. Uh so it certainly didn't surprise me that they certainly didn't surprise me that they certainly didn't surprise me that they would keep him off the stand. Um so would keep him off the stand. Um so would keep him off the stand. Um so yeah, hindsight maybe 2020 or we all yeah, hindsight maybe 2020 or we all yeah, hindsight maybe 2020 or we all play out the well if only we had done play out the well if only we had done play out the well if only we had done that it would have worked out perfectly. that it would have worked out perfectly. that it would have worked out perfectly. But you don't know that. So anyway, I But you don't know that. So anyway, I But you don't know that. So anyway, I wouldn't be casting a lot of aspersions wouldn't be casting a lot of aspersions wouldn't be casting a lot of aspersions on the defense team for that. Jurors had on the defense team for that. Jurors had on the defense team for that. Jurors had the option of a lesser manslaughter the option of a lesser manslaughter the option of a lesser manslaughter charge, but they did decline it. Uh, at charge, but they did decline it. Uh, at charge, but they did decline it. Uh, at sentencing, they also rejected something sentencing, they also rejected something sentencing, they also rejected something known as sudden passion defense, which known as sudden passion defense, which known as sudden passion defense, which is basically like a manslaughter is basically like a manslaughter is basically like a manslaughter defense. Um, that would have capped his defense. Um, that would have capped his defense. Um, that would have capped his sentence at 20 years. They also declined sentence at 20 years. They also declined sentence at 20 years. They also declined that. Um, now the question is going to that. Um, now the question is going to that. Um, now the question is going to be how intense the race debate is going be how intense the race debate is going be how intense the race debate is going to get on the back of this. I have a to get on the back of this. I have a to get on the back of this. I have a feeling this one's going to dissipate feeling this one's going to dissipate feeling this one's going to dissipate relatively quickly. We'll have maybe a relatively quickly. We'll have maybe a relatively quickly. We'll have maybe a few days or a week uh of this. Um but few days or a week uh of this. Um but few days or a week uh of this. Um but whether this one dissipates quickly or whether this one dissipates quickly or whether this one dissipates quickly or not, this is sort of if you believe that not, this is sort of if you believe that not, this is sort of if you believe that this is all about race, it's going to be this is all about race, it's going to be this is all about race, it's going to be another one that you put in that another one that you put in that another one that you put in that category. And when you look at this category. And when you look at this category. And when you look at this stuff, the temptation is always to be stuff, the temptation is always to be stuff, the temptation is always to be the people that don't feel the way you the people that don't feel the way you the people that don't feel the way you feel. They're all dumb. Uh they all have feel. They're all dumb. Uh they all have feel. They're all dumb. Uh they all have some sinister agenda. I think it is far some sinister agenda. I think it is far some sinister agenda. I think it is far more useful to assume that the people more useful to assume that the people more useful to assume that the people that have the exact opposite opinion of that have the exact opposite opinion of that have the exact opposite opinion of you. They are smart. They are you. They are smart. They are you. They are smart. They are well-intentioned, but they're reading well-intentioned, but they're reading well-intentioned, but they're reading the world very differently than you. The the world very differently than you. The the world very differently than you. The reason that I say to do that, one, it reason that I say to do that, one, it reason that I say to do that, one, it makes it much harder. It will force you makes it much harder. It will force you makes it much harder. It will force you to find facts because if you eject out to find facts because if you eject out to find facts because if you eject out at the, well, they're just dumb. You at the, well, they're just dumb. You at the, well, they're just dumb. You dismiss them. You make it seem like dismiss them. You make it seem like dismiss them. You make it seem like there's nothing serious here to contend there's nothing serious here to contend there's nothing serious here to contend with. But the stuff builds up and builds with. But the stuff builds up and builds with. But the stuff builds up and builds up and builds up. And so I think it is up and builds up. And so I think it is up and builds up. And so I think it is far more wise of us to figure out why far more wise of us to figure out why far more wise of us to figure out why the people who disagree with us, the people who disagree with us, the people who disagree with us, regardless of what side you're on, why regardless of what side you're on, why regardless of what side you're on, why do the people, if they are smart and do the people, if they are smart and do the people, if they are smart and well-intentioned and just from your well-intentioned and just from your well-intentioned and just from your perspective wrong, what is it that perspective wrong, what is it that perspective wrong, what is it that they're grabbing on to? And so if you're they're grabbing on to? And so if you're they're grabbing on to? And so if you're like, "Oh, they're just ejecting out at like, "Oh, they're just ejecting out at like, "Oh, they're just ejecting out at this emotional stance." Okay, cool. But this emotional stance." Okay, cool. But this emotional stance." Okay, cool. But what's driving that? Is it economic in what's driving that? Is it economic in what's driving that? Is it economic in nature? Is there something being passed nature? Is there something being passed nature? Is there something being passed on in a subculture that isn't helpful? on in a subculture that isn't helpful? on in a subculture that isn't helpful? Like all of these things need to be Like all of these things need to be Like all of these things need to be figured out. Otherwise, we're just going figured out. Otherwise, we're just going figured out. Otherwise, we're just going to continue to fail to understand each to continue to fail to understand each to continue to fail to understand each other. This is why when you're in your other. This is why when you're in your other. This is why when you're in your most just like aggressive debate with most just like aggressive debate with most just like aggressive debate with somebody, my instinct is always to somebody, my instinct is always to somebody, my instinct is always to pause, to step out of the emotional pause, to step out of the emotional pause, to step out of the emotional stream and say, "Okay, I want to be able stream and say, "Okay, I want to be able stream and say, "Okay, I want to be able to articulate your stance back to you in to articulate your stance back to you in to articulate your stance back to you in a way that you recognize where you will a way that you recognize where you will a way that you recognize where you will say, you understand my position say, you understand my position say, you understand my position perfectly. I'm going to try to perfectly. I'm going to try to perfectly. I'm going to try to articulate in a generous fashion, by the articulate in a generous fashion, by the articulate in a generous fashion, by the way, your base assumptions, the things way, your base assumptions, the things way, your base assumptions, the things that I think are driving your worldview. that I think are driving your worldview. that I think are driving your worldview. And so I'll say, okay, for you to And so I'll say, okay, for you to And so I'll say, okay, for you to believe that and for it to make sense, believe that and for it to make sense, believe that and for it to make sense, you would have to believe these you would have to believe these you would have to believe these following base assumptions. Are they following base assumptions. Are they following base assumptions. Are they correct? If they're correct, then it's correct? If they're correct, then it's correct? If they're correct, then it's like, okay, I can now state the base like, okay, I can now state the base like, okay, I can now state the base assumptions that are driving your assumptions that are driving your assumptions that are driving your thinking in a way where you go, yes, you thinking in a way where you go, yes, you thinking in a way where you go, yes, you understand my position perfectly. Now, understand my position perfectly. Now, understand my position perfectly. Now, at that point, I might go, "Holy [ __ ] at that point, I might go, "Holy [ __ ] at that point, I might go, "Holy [ __ ] by your own admission, I understand your by your own admission, I understand your by your own admission, I understand your position perfectly. The base assumptions position perfectly. The base assumptions position perfectly. The base assumptions that are driving your position that are driving your position that are driving your position perfectly, and now you violate these perfectly, and now you violate these perfectly, and now you violate these values that I hold dear, but at least I values that I hold dear, but at least I values that I hold dear, but at least I can point at it and say, I think the can point at it and say, I think the can point at it and say, I think the value system that's driving you is value system that's driving you is value system that's driving you is absolutely insane. I can articulate it. absolutely insane. I can articulate it. absolutely insane. I can articulate it. You agree that it's correct." And now You agree that it's correct." And now You agree that it's correct." And now we're at least like, "Okay, we we we're at least like, "Okay, we we we're at least like, "Okay, we we understand each other. We disagree, but understand each other. We disagree, but understand each other. We disagree, but we understand each other." And you're we understand each other." And you're we understand each other." And you're not always going to be able to achieve not always going to be able to achieve not always going to be able to achieve agreement with people, but at least if agreement with people, but at least if agreement with people, but at least if you're touching ground truth, I know you're touching ground truth, I know you're touching ground truth, I know what your actual like the mental map what your actual like the mental map what your actual like the mental map that you're building. Now, it could be that you're building. Now, it could be that you're building. Now, it could be emotional at every turn. And one thing I emotional at every turn. And one thing I emotional at every turn. And one thing I have found oftenimes is people don't have found oftenimes is people don't have found oftenimes is people don't understand the own like base assumptions understand the own like base assumptions understand the own like base assumptions that they have that build their that they have that build their that they have that build their worldview. And so, some people will just worldview. And so, some people will just worldview. And so, some people will just eject out. They'll stay in their eject out. They'll stay in their eject out. They'll stay in their emotions. They will not be able to have emotions. They will not be able to have emotions. They will not be able to have the conversation. Cool. That's not a the conversation. Cool. That's not a the conversation. Cool. That's not a person that we're going to be able to person that we're going to be able to person that we're going to be able to explore this part of that with. you can explore this part of that with. you can explore this part of that with. you can set them aside. Whatever epits they set them aside. Whatever epits they set them aside. Whatever epits they throw at you, you can just ignore. So, throw at you, you can just ignore. So, throw at you, you can just ignore. So, it's like, okay, I'm moving on to the it's like, okay, I'm moving on to the it's like, okay, I'm moving on to the next person who can at least articulate next person who can at least articulate next person who can at least articulate their base assumptions. If you go in their base assumptions. If you go in their base assumptions. If you go in with that, like, I really want to with that, like, I really want to with that, like, I really want to understand this person before I just understand this person before I just understand this person before I just assume that all the things they're assume that all the things they're assume that all the things they're saying, what they would mean if I were saying, what they would mean if I were saying, what they would mean if I were saying them. Because that's often the saying them. Because that's often the saying them. Because that's often the gap is, yes, it would be a crazy thing gap is, yes, it would be a crazy thing gap is, yes, it would be a crazy thing for you to say those words, but you for you to say those words, but you for you to say those words, but you don't have their base assumptions, their don't have their base assumptions, their don't have their base assumptions, their worldview, their frame of reference. And worldview, their frame of reference. And worldview, their frame of reference. And so try to step inside map first from so try to step inside map first from so try to step inside map first from there. That doesn't mean that you're there. That doesn't mean that you're there. That doesn't mean that you're like, "Oh my god, yes, now I understand like, "Oh my god, yes, now I understand like, "Oh my god, yes, now I understand and everything you're saying is right." and everything you're saying is right." and everything you're saying is right." You just want to make sure that you're You just want to make sure that you're You just want to make sure that you're having the argument at the level of having the argument at the level of having the argument at the level of building block of their argumentation. building block of their argumentation. building block of their argumentation. If they don't have one, then it's like, If they don't have one, then it's like, If they don't have one, then it's like, okay, this is not a fruitful person to okay, this is not a fruitful person to okay, this is not a fruitful person to have this conversation with. have this conversation with. have this conversation with. >> It's a lot of people that it's not >> It's a lot of people that it's not >> It's a lot of people that it's not fruitful to have that conversation with. fruitful to have that conversation with. fruitful to have that conversation with. >> It's true. And the thing is, it's like, >> It's true. And the thing is, it's like, >> It's true. And the thing is, it's like, at least if you have that frame of at least if you have that frame of at least if you have that frame of reference, you don't end up getting reference, you don't end up getting reference, you don't end up getting sucked into wasting your time with sucked into wasting your time with sucked into wasting your time with people for whom it's like, this is never people for whom it's like, this is never people for whom it's like, this is never going to be fruitful. This is a shouting going to be fruitful. This is a shouting going to be fruitful. This is a shouting match. This is ad homonym. And so, okay, match. This is ad homonym. And so, okay, match. This is ad homonym. And so, okay, yeah, I'll just move on to the next yeah, I'll just move on to the next yeah, I'll just move on to the next person. But if we are going, we're going person. But if we are going, we're going person. But if we are going, we're going to need to have this conversation for to need to have this conversation for to need to have this conversation for sure, for sure, for sure. it is going to sure, for sure, for sure. it is going to sure, for sure, for sure. it is going to be further exacerbated by immigration be further exacerbated by immigration be further exacerbated by immigration that happens to map to um the appearance that happens to map to um the appearance that happens to map to um the appearance of different skin color. And so then in of different skin color. And so then in of different skin color. And so then in something I will just beat the drum on, something I will just beat the drum on, something I will just beat the drum on, people's inability to separate those two people's inability to separate those two people's inability to separate those two things creates a lot of confusion around things creates a lot of confusion around things creates a lot of confusion around race given America's history that then race given America's history that then race given America's history that then fuels again the race narrative that has fuels again the race narrative that has fuels again the race narrative that has never been fully um come to terms with. never been fully um come to terms with. never been fully um come to terms with. And so yeah, I think that even though And so yeah, I think that even though And so yeah, I think that even though like uh play Jasmine Crockett, I'll let like uh play Jasmine Crockett, I'll let like uh play Jasmine Crockett, I'll let her say it first and and then I'll tell her say it first and and then I'll tell her say it first and and then I'll tell you how I feel about this. you how I feel about this. you how I feel about this. >> Jasmine Crockett >> Jasmine Crockett >> Jasmine Crockett who lost a telerico now she's looking who lost a telerico now she's looking who lost a telerico now she's looking for for for black women, especially black women who black women, especially black women who black women, especially black women who have black male children have black male children have black male children >> live in fear and agony every single day. >> live in fear and agony every single day. >> live in fear and agony every single day. of fear and agony that I promise you of fear and agony that I promise you of fear and agony that I promise you the metaps probably never spent a day the metaps probably never spent a day the metaps probably never spent a day living that way living that way living that way >> and we're gonna have to have just some >> and we're gonna have to have just some >> and we're gonna have to have just some real conversations about race in this real conversations about race in this real conversations about race in this country black country black country black >> so uh we're going to have to have a real >> so uh we're going to have to have a real >> so uh we're going to have to have a real conversation about race in this country. conversation about race in this country. conversation about race in this country. I don't think she's wrong. I don't think I don't think she's wrong. I don't think I don't think she's wrong. I don't think this problem is going to go away. Not this problem is going to go away. Not this problem is going to go away. Not after everything that has built up since after everything that has built up since after everything that has built up since I mean a lot of people clock it as since I mean a lot of people clock it as since I mean a lot of people clock it as since Obama went into office, but it certainly Obama went into office, but it certainly Obama went into office, but it certainly for me made my radar in 2020 that we for me made my radar in 2020 that we for me made my radar in 2020 that we were now going in a totally different were now going in a totally different were now going in a totally different direction than we had been going when I direction than we had been going when I direction than we had been going when I was younger. Uh and so yeah, it does was younger. Uh and so yeah, it does was younger. Uh and so yeah, it does feel like we're going to have to have a feel like we're going to have to have a feel like we're going to have to have a conversation about race, but that conversation about race, but that conversation about race, but that conversation can't be emotional. But as conversation can't be emotional. But as conversation can't be emotional. But as she was talking, she was kicking off a she was talking, she was kicking off a she was talking, she was kicking off a lot of things that hint at her base lot of things that hint at her base lot of things that hint at her base assumption. assumption. assumption. >> So, uh, one base assumption that I think >> So, uh, one base assumption that I think >> So, uh, one base assumption that I think she would agree with is that, um, life she would agree with is that, um, life she would agree with is that, um, life is harder for young black men than for is harder for young black men than for is harder for young black men than for young white men. Um, I would assume young white men. Um, I would assume young white men. Um, I would assume primarily around violence, though I primarily around violence, though I primarily around violence, though I would, that part I would feel less would, that part I would feel less would, that part I would feel less confident based on what I just heard. um confident based on what I just heard. um confident based on what I just heard. um that even a mother who has just lost her that even a mother who has just lost her that even a mother who has just lost her child to murder can't understand how um child to murder can't understand how um child to murder can't understand how um painful and terrifying it is to be the painful and terrifying it is to be the painful and terrifying it is to be the mother of a young black male. And it's mother of a young black male. And it's mother of a young black male. And it's like, okay, if she would agree with like, okay, if she would agree with like, okay, if she would agree with those things now, we can start laying those things now, we can start laying those things now, we can start laying them out. And it's like, okay, one them out. And it's like, okay, one them out. And it's like, okay, one colliding on the does somebody who colliding on the does somebody who colliding on the does somebody who actually lost their child have a deeper actually lost their child have a deeper actually lost their child have a deeper understanding of pain than a woman who understanding of pain than a woman who understanding of pain than a woman who fears losing a child? I think she would fears losing a child? I think she would fears losing a child? I think she would acquies on that pretty quickly, but acquies on that pretty quickly, but acquies on that pretty quickly, but maybe not. Um, then we get into, maybe not. Um, then we get into, maybe not. Um, then we get into, okay, what about um the fear of violence okay, what about um the fear of violence okay, what about um the fear of violence for somebody raising a young black male? for somebody raising a young black male? for somebody raising a young black male? I think the data is unequivocal that a I think the data is unequivocal that a I think the data is unequivocal that a black mother has way more justification black mother has way more justification black mother has way more justification to be afraid that her child will end up to be afraid that her child will end up to be afraid that her child will end up in a um violent altercation. The data is in a um violent altercation. The data is in a um violent altercation. The data is pretty clear on that. The question pretty clear on that. The question pretty clear on that. The question becomes, how do we begin to unwind that? becomes, how do we begin to unwind that? becomes, how do we begin to unwind that? And so, is that a this is systemic And so, is that a this is systemic And so, is that a this is systemic racism and it's playing out? Is this a racism and it's playing out? Is this a racism and it's playing out? Is this a subculture within some part of the black subculture within some part of the black subculture within some part of the black community that like if you watch some of community that like if you watch some of community that like if you watch some of the people that were talking after the the people that were talking after the the people that were talking after the Metaf thing, there was a woman who was Metaf thing, there was a woman who was Metaf thing, there was a woman who was just felt so convinced if you put my if just felt so convinced if you put my if just felt so convinced if you put my if you put your hands on me, then you are you put your hands on me, then you are you put your hands on me, then you are going to be met with violence. And so going to be met with violence. And so going to be met with violence. And so it's like, well, if we are reinforcing a it's like, well, if we are reinforcing a it's like, well, if we are reinforcing a sense of honor culture, sense of honor culture, sense of honor culture, >> uh, yeah, we're going to have a problem. >> uh, yeah, we're going to have a problem. >> uh, yeah, we're going to have a problem. So, So, So, that's one where it's like what I would that's one where it's like what I would that's one where it's like what I would hope everybody would teach their kid is, hope everybody would teach their kid is, hope everybody would teach their kid is, all right, listen, if you're in an all right, listen, if you're in an all right, listen, if you're in an active fight, you're going to have to active fight, you're going to have to active fight, you're going to have to fight back. Obviously, uh, if the fight back. Obviously, uh, if the fight back. Obviously, uh, if the situation can be diffused, step one is situation can be diffused, step one is situation can be diffused, step one is always diffuse the situation. And so always diffuse the situation. And so always diffuse the situation. And so making sure every parent of every color making sure every parent of every color making sure every parent of every color of every creed is operating under that of every creed is operating under that of every creed is operating under that rubric I think would be much wiser. Now rubric I think would be much wiser. Now rubric I think would be much wiser. Now I may be wrong about that but that's the I may be wrong about that but that's the I may be wrong about that but that's the debate that we have to have. And so debate that we have to have. And so debate that we have to have. And so figuring out if this is something that's figuring out if this is something that's figuring out if this is something that's being reinforced as an echo, I don't being reinforced as an echo, I don't being reinforced as an echo, I don't know if people have read, I forget the know if people have read, I forget the know if people have read, I forget the exact title, but Thomas Soul wrote a exact title, but Thomas Soul wrote a exact title, but Thomas Soul wrote a book about this where he's saying that book about this where he's saying that book about this where he's saying that um um um I don't know the inner city black I don't know the inner city black I don't know the inner city black culture mirrors the redneck culture from culture mirrors the redneck culture from culture mirrors the redneck culture from uh I think it's Scotland, Ireland, one uh I think it's Scotland, Ireland, one uh I think it's Scotland, Ireland, one of the two. But like those two cultures, of the two. But like those two cultures, of the two. But like those two cultures, honor cultures, have a lot more to do honor cultures, have a lot more to do honor cultures, have a lot more to do with each other than people want to with each other than people want to with each other than people want to realize. Now, I have a slightly oblique realize. Now, I have a slightly oblique realize. Now, I have a slightly oblique lens into this because at Quest, I was lens into this because at Quest, I was lens into this because at Quest, I was dealing with a lot of inner city kids. I dealing with a lot of inner city kids. I dealing with a lot of inner city kids. I mean, young men, but they grew up in the mean, young men, but they grew up in the mean, young men, but they grew up in the inner cities and they had the same honor inner cities and they had the same honor inner cities and they had the same honor culture, but they were all Hispanic. And culture, but they were all Hispanic. And culture, but they were all Hispanic. And so, I'm seeing this, which may be part so, I'm seeing this, which may be part so, I'm seeing this, which may be part of the reason I'm convinced this isn't of the reason I'm convinced this isn't of the reason I'm convinced this isn't race and is culture, but I saw them deal race and is culture, but I saw them deal race and is culture, but I saw them deal with the same thing. Now, one of the with the same thing. Now, one of the with the same thing. Now, one of the people, this story to this day, it's one people, this story to this day, it's one people, this story to this day, it's one of those where in a movie it's cool, but of those where in a movie it's cool, but of those where in a movie it's cool, but when you put it into real life, it's when you put it into real life, it's when you put it into real life, it's kind of terrifying. So, this kid gets kind of terrifying. So, this kid gets kind of terrifying. So, this kid gets beaten up, gets jumped, and he comes beaten up, gets jumped, and he comes beaten up, gets jumped, and he comes home. His mother places a bullet on the home. His mother places a bullet on the home. His mother places a bullet on the table and says, "Does that bullet have a table and says, "Does that bullet have a table and says, "Does that bullet have a name?" Goes, "Yes, it does." Loads it name?" Goes, "Yes, it does." Loads it name?" Goes, "Yes, it does." Loads it into the gun. He's 13. Loads it into the into the gun. He's 13. Loads it into the into the gun. He's 13. Loads it into the gun. Goes back out on the street looking gun. Goes back out on the street looking gun. Goes back out on the street looking for the kid that jumped him. Now that's for the kid that jumped him. Now that's for the kid that jumped him. Now that's culture. Now he's not black, but that's culture. Now he's not black, but that's culture. Now he's not black, but that's still culture. That's a mom teaching still culture. That's a mom teaching still culture. That's a mom teaching you. you. you. >> Th this is how we deal with this in this >> Th this is how we deal with this in this >> Th this is how we deal with this in this house. And I was like, bro, if I went house. And I was like, bro, if I went house. And I was like, bro, if I went home to my mom and said, I got beaten home to my mom and said, I got beaten home to my mom and said, I got beaten up, she would be like, we got to go talk up, she would be like, we got to go talk up, she would be like, we got to go talk to the principal. She would not have put to the principal. She would not have put to the principal. She would not have put a bullet on the table a bullet on the table a bullet on the table >> and said, does this bullet have a name? >> and said, does this bullet have a name? >> and said, does this bullet have a name? That's culture. So That's culture. So That's culture. So these are once it becomes like if that's these are once it becomes like if that's these are once it becomes like if that's just his household, then that's a just his household, then that's a just his household, then that's a one-off. mom's gangster, whatever. But one-off. mom's gangster, whatever. But one-off. mom's gangster, whatever. But once it's like, oh yeah, like that's how once it's like, oh yeah, like that's how once it's like, oh yeah, like that's how you act in my neighborhood, which given you act in my neighborhood, which given you act in my neighborhood, which given how many stories he told me, given how how many stories he told me, given how how many stories he told me, given how many other people, they didn't tell me many other people, they didn't tell me many other people, they didn't tell me stories, my mom gave me a bullet, but stories, my mom gave me a bullet, but stories, my mom gave me a bullet, but like plenty of stories that were like, like plenty of stories that were like, like plenty of stories that were like, "Holy shit." Like, I can't believe "Holy shit." Like, I can't believe "Holy shit." Like, I can't believe that's the stuff that you guys, like one that's the stuff that you guys, like one that's the stuff that you guys, like one kid was like, "Oh, my mom told me the kid was like, "Oh, my mom told me the kid was like, "Oh, my mom told me the world does not want," again, he's world does not want," again, he's world does not want," again, he's Hispanic, wasn't black, but my mom told Hispanic, wasn't black, but my mom told Hispanic, wasn't black, but my mom told me the world does not want people who me the world does not want people who me the world does not want people who look like me to succeed. And I was like, look like me to succeed. And I was like, look like me to succeed. And I was like, "What the fuck?" I'm like, "That is the "What the fuck?" I'm like, "That is the "What the fuck?" I'm like, "That is the worst advice in the known universe." worst advice in the known universe." worst advice in the known universe." What your mom should have said was, What your mom should have said was, What your mom should have said was, "Even if the world does not want people "Even if the world does not want people "Even if the world does not want people who look like me to succeed, I'm still who look like me to succeed, I'm still who look like me to succeed, I'm still going to succeed because I can get so going to succeed because I can get so going to succeed because I can get so good at something, nobody can stop me." good at something, nobody can stop me." good at something, nobody can stop me." We'll call that the Kobe Bryant method. We'll call that the Kobe Bryant method. We'll call that the Kobe Bryant method. >> So, it's >> So, it's >> So, it's culture. Culture. You said this earlier culture. Culture. You said this earlier culture. Culture. You said this earlier to the point of when something happens, to the point of when something happens, to the point of when something happens, we have the tapes that we go to that we we have the tapes that we go to that we we have the tapes that we go to that we play play play >> and it's very interesting these two >> and it's very interesting these two >> and it's very interesting these two conversations when we talk about the conversations when we talk about the conversations when we talk about the Belfast beheading and it's uh a larger Belfast beheading and it's uh a larger Belfast beheading and it's uh a larger conversation about unchecked immigration conversation about unchecked immigration conversation about unchecked immigration and then we talked about Carmelo and um and then we talked about Carmelo and um and then we talked about Carmelo and um Austin Metaf and how it's an underlying Austin Metaf and how it's an underlying Austin Metaf and how it's an underlying issue of race in America. And so it's no issue of race in America. And so it's no issue of race in America. And so it's no longer about what these individuals have longer about what these individuals have longer about what these individuals have done. It's now this person who beheaded done. It's now this person who beheaded done. It's now this person who beheaded it is now the face for all immigration it is now the face for all immigration it is now the face for all immigration and everything that's wrong with and everything that's wrong with and everything that's wrong with immigration in the UK and in Austin immigration in the UK and in Austin immigration in the UK and in Austin Metaf's uh scenario. Carmela Anthony is Metaf's uh scenario. Carmela Anthony is Metaf's uh scenario. Carmela Anthony is the thing that's wrong with all black the thing that's wrong with all black the thing that's wrong with all black people and black culture that's people and black culture that's people and black culture that's happening in America. And I think that happening in America. And I think that happening in America. And I think that it's very interesting that in these two it's very interesting that in these two it's very interesting that in these two crimes, these people are the faces of crimes, these people are the faces of crimes, these people are the faces of these races and these uh cultures where these races and these uh cultures where these races and these uh cultures where um people interact with other people um people interact with other people um people interact with other people that counteract that daily. So, I have that counteract that daily. So, I have that counteract that daily. So, I have to pass 16 Somali that I either bought to pass 16 Somali that I either bought to pass 16 Somali that I either bought food from, that I see on the subway, food from, that I see on the subway, food from, that I see on the subway, that have backpacks on, that are that have backpacks on, that are that have backpacks on, that are laughing, that are on their phones to laughing, that are on their phones to laughing, that are on their phones to get to the one that's beheading people. get to the one that's beheading people. get to the one that's beheading people. But, see, they're the problem, the But, see, they're the problem, the But, see, they're the problem, the Somali, you know. And then the same Somali, you know. And then the same Somali, you know. And then the same thing with black people. Yeah. I have to thing with black people. Yeah. I have to thing with black people. Yeah. I have to pass 16 people. I have to pass 32 pass 16 people. I have to pass 32 pass 16 people. I have to pass 32 chicken stands. I have to pass um while chicken stands. I have to pass um while chicken stands. I have to pass um while I'm listening to Jay-Z, I have to I'm I'm listening to Jay-Z, I have to I'm I'm listening to Jay-Z, I have to I'm going through all this different culture going through all this different culture going through all this different culture of counter um evidence to get to Austin of counter um evidence to get to Austin of counter um evidence to get to Austin M. See, blacks are the problem. So it's M. See, blacks are the problem. So it's M. See, blacks are the problem. So it's just an interesting perspective. just an interesting perspective. just an interesting perspective. >> Well, so that's where I would say, okay, >> Well, so that's where I would say, okay, >> Well, so that's where I would say, okay, you're putting a really important point you're putting a really important point you're putting a really important point on. So now how do we get to the layer on. So now how do we get to the layer on. So now how do we get to the layer where it's all solutions? All we care where it's all solutions? All we care where it's all solutions? All we care about are solutions. about are solutions. about are solutions. >> So when people say, okay, look at the >> So when people say, okay, look at the >> So when people say, okay, look at the per capita crime rates. If people do a per capita crime rates. If people do a per capita crime rates. If people do a Michael Mouse trap, and they just eject Michael Mouse trap, and they just eject Michael Mouse trap, and they just eject out of the conversation because they out of the conversation because they out of the conversation because they don't want to talk about that, um, then don't want to talk about that, um, then don't want to talk about that, um, then you got a problem. you got a problem. you got a problem. >> You want to talk about the perapter >> You want to talk about the perapter >> You want to talk about the perapter crime? And I'm certainly happy to talk crime? And I'm certainly happy to talk crime? And I'm certainly happy to talk about the about the about the >> because there is a counterfactual to >> because there is a counterfactual to >> because there is a counterfactual to that cuz everybody's claim black people that cuz everybody's claim black people that cuz everybody's claim black people 13% of the population they uh make x 13% of the population they uh make x 13% of the population they uh make x amount of percent of the um arrest but amount of percent of the um arrest but amount of percent of the um arrest but they are also over represented in they are also over represented in they are also over represented in exonerations over represented in false exonerations over represented in false exonerations over represented in false accusations over represented in actual accusations over represented in actual accusations over represented in actual sentencing over represented in appeals sentencing over represented in appeals sentencing over represented in appeals all these other things. So because more all these other things. So because more all these other things. So because more people are arrested but less people people are arrested but less people people are arrested but less people actually stay in jail. So it's you got actually stay in jail. So it's you got actually stay in jail. So it's you got more people get caught where if I'm talk more people get caught where if I'm talk more people get caught where if I'm talk if this is like fish like it it's saying if this is like fish like it it's saying if this is like fish like it it's saying that some people get into the boat some that some people get into the boat some that some people get into the boat some people get tossed back less black people people get tossed back less black people people get tossed back less black people get tossed back but then they get get tossed back but then they get get tossed back but then they get exonerated their thing gets expelled exonerated their thing gets expelled exonerated their thing gets expelled there is more uh corruption in their um there is more uh corruption in their um there is more uh corruption in their um there more corruption in their cases there more corruption in their cases there more corruption in their cases things like that but then on the flip things like that but then on the flip things like that but then on the flip side we never hear the case that white side we never hear the case that white side we never hear the case that white people are over represented represented people are over represented represented people are over represented represented in pedophilia cases or child pornography in pedophilia cases or child pornography in pedophilia cases or child pornography so are white people the problem we so are white people the problem we so are white people the problem we should take kids away from white should take kids away from white should take kids away from white Catholic Church, the priests are over Catholic Church, the priests are over Catholic Church, the priests are over represented in in so should all Catholic represented in in so should all Catholic represented in in so should all Catholic churches be closed? Why haven't we churches be closed? Why haven't we churches be closed? Why haven't we closed any Catholic churches yet? So we closed any Catholic churches yet? So we closed any Catholic churches yet? So we care about per capita when it furthers care about per capita when it furthers care about per capita when it furthers our agenda of something that we already our agenda of something that we already our agenda of something that we already believe. You said this in the deep dive. believe. You said this in the deep dive. believe. You said this in the deep dive. It hasn't come out yet, but we make an It hasn't come out yet, but we make an It hasn't come out yet, but we make an assumption. Blacks are the other people. assumption. Blacks are the other people. assumption. Blacks are the other people. We take the facts, over represented We take the facts, over represented We take the facts, over represented stats, uh gangster movies, rap music. stats, uh gangster movies, rap music. stats, uh gangster movies, rap music. Okay, based on these four, this is my um Okay, based on these four, this is my um Okay, based on these four, this is my um now thesis. This is why black people are now thesis. This is why black people are now thesis. This is why black people are bad. Let's send them back. And then on bad. Let's send them back. And then on bad. Let's send them back. And then on the flip side, when I have counter the flip side, when I have counter the flip side, when I have counter points, we have other op uh cultures points, we have other op uh cultures points, we have other op uh cultures that are overrepresented in crime that are overrepresented in crime that are overrepresented in crime statistics. Oh, that doesn't matter. All statistics. Oh, that doesn't matter. All statistics. Oh, that doesn't matter. All Catholic people aren't pedophiles. All Catholic people aren't pedophiles. All Catholic people aren't pedophiles. All white people aren't you you see? So, white people aren't you you see? So, white people aren't you you see? So, it's when it's certain cultures, it's it's when it's certain cultures, it's it's when it's certain cultures, it's now immigrants are the problem because now immigrants are the problem because now immigrants are the problem because of one beheading. When it's uh when it's of one beheading. When it's uh when it's of one beheading. When it's uh when it's a black person, all black people are the a black person, all black people are the a black person, all black people are the problem because one guy responded with a problem because one guy responded with a problem because one guy responded with a stabbing. But when it comes to white stabbing. But when it comes to white stabbing. But when it comes to white people, they don't have that necessarily people, they don't have that necessarily people, they don't have that necessarily that freedom. It's just one crazy white that freedom. It's just one crazy white that freedom. It's just one crazy white person. Like um what's the dude that person. Like um what's the dude that person. Like um what's the dude that killed Charlie Kirk? Um killed Charlie Kirk? Um killed Charlie Kirk? Um >> oh, he was a white guy, but he was Tyler >> oh, he was a white guy, but he was Tyler >> oh, he was a white guy, but he was Tyler Robinson. Yes. Tyler Robinson is just a Robinson. Yes. Tyler Robinson is just a Robinson. Yes. Tyler Robinson is just a crazy guy, but it's not all white boys crazy guy, but it's not all white boys crazy guy, but it's not all white boys who are by themselves who are into who are by themselves who are into who are by themselves who are into furries need to get sent away. You get furries need to get sent away. You get furries need to get sent away. You get what I mean? So, what I mean? So, what I mean? So, >> well, there is some of that, but cuz the >> well, there is some of that, but cuz the >> well, there is some of that, but cuz the Tyler Robinson thing is caught up with Tyler Robinson thing is caught up with Tyler Robinson thing is caught up with trans and so people, he's definitely trans and so people, he's definitely trans and so people, he's definitely going to fit into that narrative. going to fit into that narrative. going to fit into that narrative. >> Trans fit that too. like trans are the >> Trans fit that too. like trans are the >> Trans fit that too. like trans are the problem now cuz if a trans person you problem now cuz if a trans person you problem now cuz if a trans person you know know know >> so that what I see you putting on the >> so that what I see you putting on the >> so that what I see you putting on the table is something very important which table is something very important which table is something very important which is okay there people use these stats as is okay there people use these stats as is okay there people use these stats as talking points once you're using a stat talking points once you're using a stat talking points once you're using a stat as a talking point you're trying to win as a talking point you're trying to win as a talking point you're trying to win the argument you're not trying to solve the argument you're not trying to solve the argument you're not trying to solve the problem the problem the problem >> what I'm appealing people to do is there >> what I'm appealing people to do is there >> what I'm appealing people to do is there is a solution is a solution is a solution >> and so until you've gotten to the >> and so until you've gotten to the >> and so until you've gotten to the solution you haven't done the adequate solution you haven't done the adequate solution you haven't done the adequate work and so um I will often say, "I know work and so um I will often say, "I know work and so um I will often say, "I know that my approach was right when I get that my approach was right when I get that my approach was right when I get the result that I want, and I know that the result that I want, and I know that the result that I want, and I know that my approach is wrong when I don't get my approach is wrong when I don't get my approach is wrong when I don't get the result that I want." And the great the result that I want." And the great the result that I want." And the great irony is when I present that, especially irony is when I present that, especially irony is when I present that, especially in a work situation, people will defend in a work situation, people will defend in a work situation, people will defend my failures because they think I'm my failures because they think I'm my failures because they think I'm emotionally being hurt by the fact that emotionally being hurt by the fact that emotionally being hurt by the fact that it failed. Whereas I am merely trying to it failed. Whereas I am merely trying to it failed. Whereas I am merely trying to understand cause and effect. And so, understand cause and effect. And so, understand cause and effect. And so, I'll do a thing and it doesn't work. And I'll do a thing and it doesn't work. And I'll do a thing and it doesn't work. And I'm like, "Yeah, therefore that thing I'm like, "Yeah, therefore that thing I'm like, "Yeah, therefore that thing like that was a poor like approach." And like that was a poor like approach." And like that was a poor like approach." And they'll be like, "Well, no. I mean, like they'll be like, "Well, no. I mean, like they'll be like, "Well, no. I mean, like it really made sense the time." [ __ ] it really made sense the time." [ __ ] it really made sense the time." [ __ ] yes, I understand that it made sense. I yes, I understand that it made sense. I yes, I understand that it made sense. I know why we did it. But the reality is know why we did it. But the reality is know why we did it. But the reality is it did not yield the thing. And so if it did not yield the thing. And so if it did not yield the thing. And so if we're if if battle number one that we we're if if battle number one that we we're if if battle number one that we have to have is every time that we go to have to have is every time that we go to have to have is every time that we go to try and talk about um the let's say that try and talk about um the let's say that try and talk about um the let's say that the problem we're actually trying to the problem we're actually trying to the problem we're actually trying to solve for is black versus white solve for is black versus white solve for is black versus white animosity animosity animosity >> and we're like okay first thing that we >> and we're like okay first thing that we >> and we're like okay first thing that we want to put on the table is um we're want to put on the table is um we're want to put on the table is um we're getting this per capita thing being getting this per capita thing being getting this per capita thing being thrown around plus media representations thrown around plus media representations thrown around plus media representations equal white people are getting the wrong equal white people are getting the wrong equal white people are getting the wrong perception of black people and it perception of black people and it perception of black people and it creates It's a gravity well for them. creates It's a gravity well for them. creates It's a gravity well for them. They're unable to get out of that. They're unable to get out of that. They're unable to get out of that. There's probably jobs that secretly they There's probably jobs that secretly they There's probably jobs that secretly they just never get because people think just never get because people think just never get because people think we're too violent or whatever. And so, we're too violent or whatever. And so, we're too violent or whatever. And so, um, it's creating a real problem which um, it's creating a real problem which um, it's creating a real problem which holds us down in poverty. Poverty holds us down in poverty. Poverty holds us down in poverty. Poverty becomes an exacerbating factor. And so, becomes an exacerbating factor. And so, becomes an exacerbating factor. And so, we're not able to get out. It's like we're not able to get out. It's like we're not able to get out. It's like that is such a cogent hypothesis. But that is such a cogent hypothesis. But that is such a cogent hypothesis. But now we can go through and we can start now we can go through and we can start now we can go through and we can start looking at where does this break down or looking at where does this break down or looking at where does this break down or not. And if what we find is, oh, the not. And if what we find is, oh, the not. And if what we find is, oh, the data is just very clear. uh we're data is just very clear. uh we're data is just very clear. uh we're arrested more as a um identifiable arrested more as a um identifiable arrested more as a um identifiable minority. minority. minority. However, once you like eliminate all the However, once you like eliminate all the However, once you like eliminate all the exonerations and if you come up with a exonerations and if you come up with a exonerations and if you come up with a calculation that says not 100% of the calculation that says not 100% of the calculation that says not 100% of the exonerations will go through exonerations will go through exonerations will go through >> um and you do the math and when you do >> um and you do the math and when you do >> um and you do the math and when you do that like it just disappears and now all that like it just disappears and now all that like it just disappears and now all of a sudden there is not more black and of a sudden there is not more black and of a sudden there is not more black and white crime. This is all ridiculous. Um, white crime. This is all ridiculous. Um, white crime. This is all ridiculous. Um, great. But this is one where every time great. But this is one where every time great. But this is one where every time I see people online trying to have like, I see people online trying to have like, I see people online trying to have like, okay, here are the stats and like let's okay, here are the stats and like let's okay, here are the stats and like let's address each one of these. There's address each one of these. There's address each one of these. There's always a terminal point where somebody always a terminal point where somebody always a terminal point where somebody has presented a fact that let's just has presented a fact that let's just has presented a fact that let's just assume good intentions. The other person assume good intentions. The other person assume good intentions. The other person hasn't done research on it yet. Yeah. hasn't done research on it yet. Yeah. hasn't done research on it yet. Yeah. >> And so instead of going, [ __ ] that's >> And so instead of going, [ __ ] that's >> And so instead of going, [ __ ] that's interesting. I need to look into that. interesting. I need to look into that. interesting. I need to look into that. They eject out, goes back to ad homonym, They eject out, goes back to ad homonym, They eject out, goes back to ad homonym, this is racist. So that's what I'm this is racist. So that's what I'm this is racist. So that's what I'm saying. The the thing I'm trying to do saying. The the thing I'm trying to do saying. The the thing I'm trying to do is not say I know what the answer is. is not say I know what the answer is. is not say I know what the answer is. The thing I'm trying to do is say if we The thing I'm trying to do is say if we The thing I'm trying to do is say if we can actually have the debate can actually have the debate can actually have the debate >> if everybody in all like uh what what I >> if everybody in all like uh what what I >> if everybody in all like uh what what I would really encourage people to do for would really encourage people to do for would really encourage people to do for instance instance instance if we could make immigration work if we could make immigration work if we could make immigration work meaning people are happier they're meaning people are happier they're meaning people are happier they're wealthier uh the country is more um wealthier uh the country is more um wealthier uh the country is more um competitive on the world stage middle competitive on the world stage middle competitive on the world stage middle class is [ __ ] booming all all the class is [ __ ] booming all all the class is [ __ ] booming all all the ways that I think a rational person ways that I think a rational person ways that I think a rational person would define that things are going would define that things are going would define that things are going great. That'd be [ __ ] rad. But now great. That'd be [ __ ] rad. But now great. That'd be [ __ ] rad. But now let's look at what does that actually let's look at what does that actually let's look at what does that actually look like? So for me it looks like more look like? So for me it looks like more look like? So for me it looks like more like 1600 America than 2026 America. like 1600 America than 2026 America. like 1600 America than 2026 America. It's like yeah if you can make it here It's like yeah if you can make it here It's like yeah if you can make it here uh but you're not going to have easy uh but you're not going to have easy uh but you're not going to have easy access. You're not going to have any access. You're not going to have any access. You're not going to have any access to social programs because you've access to social programs because you've access to social programs because you've not yet paid into the system. Uh there's not yet paid into the system. Uh there's not yet paid into the system. Uh there's going to be a whole bunch of going to be a whole bunch of going to be a whole bunch of constraints. We're going to filter constraints. We're going to filter constraints. We're going to filter people for criminal record things like people for criminal record things like people for criminal record things like that. We're only going to let in a that. We're only going to let in a that. We're only going to let in a certain uh type of person that we think certain uh type of person that we think certain uh type of person that we think is going to be successful. Blah blah is going to be successful. Blah blah is going to be successful. Blah blah blah. But you actually put together blah. But you actually put together blah. But you actually put together something that you think will survive something that you think will survive something that you think will survive contact with reality and then you run a contact with reality and then you run a contact with reality and then you run a test and you put in early metrics that test and you put in early metrics that test and you put in early metrics that you say this indicates that it'll work you say this indicates that it'll work you say this indicates that it'll work not. So I say that to say all right when not. So I say that to say all right when not. So I say that to say all right when you're approaching a problem sincerely you're approaching a problem sincerely you're approaching a problem sincerely want a good solution. And if you can want a good solution. And if you can want a good solution. And if you can sincerely want a good solution then at sincerely want a good solution then at sincerely want a good solution then at least you're operating from the place of least you're operating from the place of least you're operating from the place of I've stepped outside of my emotions I've stepped outside of my emotions I've stepped outside of my emotions enough to just look at cause and effect. enough to just look at cause and effect. enough to just look at cause and effect. If people can't do that then it ends up If people can't do that then it ends up If people can't do that then it ends up being a death spiral. And especially as being a death spiral. And especially as being a death spiral. And especially as it comes to race in recent memory, it it comes to race in recent memory, it it comes to race in recent memory, it has just been a cudel that people use to has just been a cudel that people use to has just been a cudel that people use to get you to shut up and stop looking at get you to shut up and stop looking at get you to shut up and stop looking at something. And we've just made so many something. And we've just made so many something. And we've just made so many things taboo that it will just make the things taboo that it will just make the things taboo that it will just make the problem harder and harder to actually problem harder and harder to actually problem harder and harder to actually solve for. solve for. solve for. >> Ryan, you got anything? >> Ryan, you got anything? >> Ryan, you got anything? >> Uh, I'll be honest. I was arguing with >> Uh, I'll be honest. I was arguing with >> Uh, I'll be honest. I was arguing with chat that whole conversation. [laughter] chat that whole conversation. [laughter] chat that whole conversation. [laughter] >> Right. Right. Correct. >> Right. Right. Correct. >> Right. Right. Correct. >> Okay. What What is the uh most >> Okay. What What is the uh most >> Okay. What What is the uh most >> interesting or high utility argument >> interesting or high utility argument >> interesting or high utility argument that you're in? Uh, the problem is none that you're in? Uh, the problem is none that you're in? Uh, the problem is none of this stuff is arguing about what of this stuff is arguing about what of this stuff is arguing about what y'all are even talking about. I was just y'all are even talking about. I was just y'all are even talking about. I was just getting mad because people are like, getting mad because people are like, getting mad because people are like, "Oh, you're a communist because you "Oh, you're a communist because you "Oh, you're a communist because you disagree with me." And it's like, I disagree with me." And it's like, I disagree with me." And it's like, I don't think that's like that's what don't think that's like that's what don't think that's like that's what discourse has dissolved to at this point discourse has dissolved to at this point discourse has dissolved to at this point in general is just, "Oh, you disagree in general is just, "Oh, you disagree in general is just, "Oh, you disagree with me, communist." And it's like, with me, communist." And it's like, with me, communist." And it's like, that's not you're not product. You're that's not you're not product. You're that's not you're not product. You're not adding to the conversation. So, not adding to the conversation. So, not adding to the conversation. So, that's why I was getting mad at chat. that's why I was getting mad at chat. that's why I was getting mad at chat. But, in terms of But, in terms of But, in terms of >> Why Why get sucked into it? >> Why Why get sucked into it? >> Why Why get sucked into it? >> Why get sucked into it? >> Why get sucked into it? >> Why get sucked into it? >> The chat. >> The chat. >> The chat. >> No, no, no. Chat is what you're here >> No, no, no. Chat is what you're here >> No, no, no. Chat is what you're here for. Oh, for. Oh, for. Oh, >> but the um so the second somebody ad >> but the um so the second somebody ad >> but the um so the second somebody ad homonyms me, I shift down in gears, I homonyms me, I shift down in gears, I homonyms me, I shift down in gears, I don't find myself getting wound up. don't find myself getting wound up. don't find myself getting wound up. >> So when I'm like, "Oh, they don't have >> So when I'm like, "Oh, they don't have >> So when I'm like, "Oh, they don't have an argument. Cool." They're now just an argument. Cool." They're now just an argument. Cool." They're now just like slinging insults. like slinging insults. like slinging insults. So one, if somebody said, "Tom, you're a So one, if somebody said, "Tom, you're a So one, if somebody said, "Tom, you're a communist or you're I'm more likely to communist or you're I'm more likely to communist or you're I'm more likely to get you're an evil capitalist." Then get you're an evil capitalist." Then get you're an evil capitalist." Then it's like, "Okay, first I go, is there it's like, "Okay, first I go, is there it's like, "Okay, first I go, is there any truth in that?" And if I detect the any truth in that?" And if I detect the any truth in that?" And if I detect the truth, I'm like, uhoh. If there is no truth, I'm like, uhoh. If there is no truth, I'm like, uhoh. If there is no truth in it, then I go, okay, what is truth in it, then I go, okay, what is truth in it, then I go, okay, what is the base assumption they have that makes the base assumption they have that makes the base assumption they have that makes them say that? And so if it's an them say that? And so if it's an them say that? And so if it's an economic slur, if you will, coming my economic slur, if you will, coming my economic slur, if you will, coming my way, I'm then going to test, okay, what way, I'm then going to test, okay, what way, I'm then going to test, okay, what is it that they understand about is it that they understand about is it that they understand about economics? Now, part of what I would economics? Now, part of what I would economics? Now, part of what I would warn you against for your sanity is that warn you against for your sanity is that warn you against for your sanity is that the method of engaging with chat the method of engaging with chat the method of engaging with chat is good at getting to whether the person is good at getting to whether the person is good at getting to whether the person has only emotion or they actually have has only emotion or they actually have has only emotion or they actually have base assumption. So you can delineate base assumption. So you can delineate base assumption. So you can delineate that you're not going to convince them. that you're not going to convince them. that you're not going to convince them. So the best that you're going to be able So the best that you're going to be able So the best that you're going to be able to do is identify whether they're just to do is identify whether they're just to do is identify whether they're just on the emotional spectrum or whether on the emotional spectrum or whether on the emotional spectrum or whether they actually have a base assumption they actually have a base assumption they actually have a base assumption whether they've encountered data that whether they've encountered data that whether they've encountered data that you haven't or not. And so it's you haven't or not. And so it's you haven't or not. And so it's something for you to go research. If you something for you to go research. If you something for you to go research. If you go into chat thinking my mission is to go into chat thinking my mission is to go into chat thinking my mission is to convince them chat is not going to be convince them chat is not going to be convince them chat is not going to be fun for you. You're going to burn out. fun for you. You're going to burn out. fun for you. You're going to burn out. But if you go into chat and it's like But if you go into chat and it's like But if you go into chat and it's like okay the most viciferous, the most hate okay the most viciferous, the most hate okay the most viciferous, the most hate watcher, the person who shows up Ryan watcher, the person who shows up Ryan watcher, the person who shows up Ryan because they hate you and they think because they hate you and they think because they hate you and they think you're a communist. It's like that's the you're a communist. It's like that's the you're a communist. It's like that's the person that you want to find out, oh, person that you want to find out, oh, person that you want to find out, oh, what what base assumption are you what what base assumption are you what what base assumption are you picking up on? What's the thing that I picking up on? What's the thing that I picking up on? What's the thing that I said that you hate? What what do you said that you hate? What what do you said that you hate? What what do you want to see happen in that? Not so that want to see happen in that? Not so that want to see happen in that? Not so that you can beat them in an argument so that you can beat them in an argument so that you can beat them in an argument so that you can begin building a mental model of you can begin building a mental model of you can begin building a mental model of like, do we just have a bunch of lunatic like, do we just have a bunch of lunatic like, do we just have a bunch of lunatic emotional people in the chat? Like, what emotional people in the chat? Like, what emotional people in the chat? Like, what are you really up against? Do you know are you really up against? Do you know are you really up against? Do you know what I mean? what I mean? what I mean? >> Yeah. Yeah. And so, um, like the there >> Yeah. Yeah. And so, um, like the there >> Yeah. Yeah. And so, um, like the there was a, um, comment in was a, um, comment in was a, um, comment in YouTube that said, "Geez, Tom, you YouTube that said, "Geez, Tom, you YouTube that said, "Geez, Tom, you really surround yourself with did they really surround yourself with did they really surround yourself with did they they might have said lunatics, but they they might have said lunatics, but they they might have said lunatics, but they certainly said radical far-left certainly said radical far-left certainly said radical far-left radicals, meaning you and Drew radicals, meaning you and Drew radicals, meaning you and Drew >> taking over the world." >> taking over the world." >> taking over the world." >> And my response >> And my response >> And my response [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> my my response was, >> my my response was, >> my my response was, >> "Come in. They are well-intentioned >> "Come in. They are well-intentioned >> "Come in. They are well-intentioned people that I care about and so I want people that I care about and so I want people that I care about and so I want to understand what they think and I want to understand what they think and I want to understand what they think and I want the challenges to the way that I think. the challenges to the way that I think. the challenges to the way that I think. Um, so it doesn't Um, so it doesn't Um, so it doesn't neither their slander nor your guys's neither their slander nor your guys's neither their slander nor your guys's difference of opinions difference of opinions difference of opinions um make me mad. So they if you treat um make me mad. So they if you treat um make me mad. So they if you treat chat like that that oh they're going to chat like that that oh they're going to chat like that that oh they're going to help sharpen my thinking even though help sharpen my thinking even though help sharpen my thinking even though they might be doing it in like an they might be doing it in like an they might be doing it in like an unhinged fashion. uh you'll be in a unhinged fashion. uh you'll be in a unhinged fashion. uh you'll be in a better place. That would be my advice. better place. That would be my advice. better place. That would be my advice. >> That's good advice. I also have four >> That's good advice. I also have four >> That's good advice. I also have four super chats, by the way, if we're ready super chats, by the way, if we're ready super chats, by the way, if we're ready to go to those before. to go to those before. to go to those before. >> Let's do it. >> Let's do it. >> Let's do it. >> Speaking of chat, uh our favorite >> Speaking of chat, uh our favorite >> Speaking of chat, uh our favorite Marushia Dark first up says, "Did Tommy Marushia Dark first up says, "Did Tommy Marushia Dark first up says, "Did Tommy Robinson saying we'll take less money, Robinson saying we'll take less money, Robinson saying we'll take less money, we want our country back, affect your we want our country back, affect your we want our country back, affect your confidence in the everything is confidence in the everything is confidence in the everything is economics thesis? Recent events seem to economics thesis? Recent events seem to economics thesis? Recent events seem to be more motivated by ideology or be more motivated by ideology or be more motivated by ideology or ethnicity than by class?" ethnicity than by class?" ethnicity than by class?" >> That they're both real. So, um, you you >> That they're both real. So, um, you you >> That they're both real. So, um, you you wouldn't have the immigration problem if wouldn't have the immigration problem if wouldn't have the immigration problem if you didn't have the economic problem. you didn't have the economic problem. you didn't have the economic problem. So, from that perspective, no, economics So, from that perspective, no, economics So, from that perspective, no, economics is always going to be at the bottom. Uh, is always going to be at the bottom. Uh, is always going to be at the bottom. Uh, because you wouldn't be importing people because you wouldn't be importing people because you wouldn't be importing people if you didn't have an economic problem if you didn't have an economic problem if you didn't have an economic problem to solve. So, uh, that's why that's at to solve. So, uh, that's why that's at to solve. So, uh, that's why that's at the base. the base. the base. >> So, hold on. You should think the basis >> So, hold on. You should think the basis >> So, hold on. You should think the basis of immigration from the UK was to solve of immigration from the UK was to solve of immigration from the UK was to solve the economic problem. the economic problem. the economic problem. >> That's correct. In the cover story, it's >> That's correct. In the cover story, it's >> That's correct. In the cover story, it's a twofold problem. So you have those a twofold problem. So you have those a twofold problem. So you have those that want to acquire power that want to acquire power that want to acquire power >> to stay in government so that they can >> to stay in government so that they can >> to stay in government so that they can control the economics and then you have control the economics and then you have control the economics and then you have the other side which is like oh [ __ ] for the other side which is like oh [ __ ] for the other side which is like oh [ __ ] for me to stay in power I've got to make me to stay in power I've got to make me to stay in power I've got to make sure prices are coming down so I can sure prices are coming down so I can sure prices are coming down so I can control the economics. But when you look control the economics. But when you look control the economics. But when you look at a country that is thriving they and at a country that is thriving they and at a country that is thriving they and everybody's getting richer. It's you can everybody's getting richer. It's you can everybody's getting richer. It's you can absorb so much more. People are not in absorb so much more. People are not in absorb so much more. People are not in such a heightened emotional state that such a heightened emotional state that such a heightened emotional state that they overreact to everything. Yeah. they overreact to everything. Yeah. they overreact to everything. Yeah. >> So, you're far more able to absorb the >> So, you're far more able to absorb the >> So, you're far more able to absorb the um negative consequences of too rapid of um negative consequences of too rapid of um negative consequences of too rapid of an immigration, but I don't think any um an immigration, but I don't think any um an immigration, but I don't think any um economically thriving country would do economically thriving country would do economically thriving country would do mass immigration. I think the tour mass immigration. I think the tour mass immigration. I think the tour anathema anathema anathema >> copy. So, the asylum stuff is cover >> copy. So, the asylum stuff is cover >> copy. So, the asylum stuff is cover story. story. story. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Got it. >> Got it. >> Got it. >> Yeah. You might do like a one-time >> Yeah. You might do like a one-time >> Yeah. You might do like a one-time thing, but probably not. Um so, yeah. thing, but probably not. Um so, yeah. thing, but probably not. Um so, yeah. >> Cool. >> Cool. >> Cool. >> Next up from Marushi Dark, another 20. >> Next up from Marushi Dark, another 20. >> Next up from Marushi Dark, another 20. Thank you for the 40. What is the Thank you for the 40. What is the Thank you for the 40. What is the ethical issue with insider trading as ethical issue with insider trading as ethical issue with insider trading as opposed to leveraging any other form of opposed to leveraging any other form of opposed to leveraging any other form of knowledge arbitrage? Why wouldn't a CEO knowledge arbitrage? Why wouldn't a CEO knowledge arbitrage? Why wouldn't a CEO share what's going on in the company share what's going on in the company share what's going on in the company with their loved ones or use it to with their loved ones or use it to with their loved ones or use it to predict market trends? predict market trends? predict market trends? >> Because what ends up happening is you >> Because what ends up happening is you >> Because what ends up happening is you get an upward spiral of economic control get an upward spiral of economic control get an upward spiral of economic control and ability to manipulate that does just and ability to manipulate that does just and ability to manipulate that does just ice everybody out. And so it's one of ice everybody out. And so it's one of ice everybody out. And so it's one of those where yeah, any one thing it all those where yeah, any one thing it all those where yeah, any one thing it all does seem to make sense. And it's like, does seem to make sense. And it's like, does seem to make sense. And it's like, god, this is so weird. Like why can't god, this is so weird. Like why can't god, this is so weird. Like why can't somebody talk to their spouse and tell somebody talk to their spouse and tell somebody talk to their spouse and tell them this thing's about to happen if them this thing's about to happen if them this thing's about to happen if they have that insider information? Why they have that insider information? Why they have that insider information? Why can't they trade and why can't they tell can't they trade and why can't they tell can't they trade and why can't they tell their friends? Like that's crazy. I want their friends? Like that's crazy. I want their friends? Like that's crazy. I want my friends to do well. But the reality my friends to do well. But the reality my friends to do well. But the reality is it creates such a toxic abusive is it creates such a toxic abusive is it creates such a toxic abusive system that you race to a K-shaped system that you race to a K-shaped system that you race to a K-shaped economy. You get the robber baron era economy. You get the robber baron era economy. You get the robber baron era and you realize that to avoid revolution and you realize that to avoid revolution and you realize that to avoid revolution you end up having to try to even the you end up having to try to even the you end up having to try to even the playing field as much as you can. And playing field as much as you can. And playing field as much as you can. And this is where it's like when capitalists this is where it's like when capitalists this is where it's like when capitalists don't recognize that especially a don't recognize that especially a don't recognize that especially a purified game of um capital betting and purified game of um capital betting and purified game of um capital betting and arbitrage has the ability to go toxic so arbitrage has the ability to go toxic so arbitrage has the ability to go toxic so fast because it exists at like this fast because it exists at like this fast because it exists at like this incredible mathematical incredible mathematical incredible mathematical um pattern recognition level that you um pattern recognition level that you um pattern recognition level that you really can ice out normal people just really can ice out normal people just really can ice out normal people just based on intellect. And so you can sort based on intellect. And so you can sort based on intellect. And so you can sort of economically enslave people by um of economically enslave people by um of economically enslave people by um being too smart. I mean, it really is being too smart. I mean, it really is being too smart. I mean, it really is being too smart and amoral. Uh and so being too smart and amoral. Uh and so being too smart and amoral. Uh and so this is precisely the kind of thing that this is precisely the kind of thing that this is precisely the kind of thing that you want the government to have a light you want the government to have a light you want the government to have a light touch on, but you do want them to go in touch on, but you do want them to go in touch on, but you do want them to go in and try to even the playing field as and try to even the playing field as and try to even the playing field as much as you can. Um, so you have to look much as you can. Um, so you have to look much as you can. Um, so you have to look out for those flywheels where it's like out for those flywheels where it's like out for those flywheels where it's like when you think about network effects, if when you think about network effects, if when you think about network effects, if you're familiar with that idea, network you're familiar with that idea, network you're familiar with that idea, network effects have this runaway flywheel where effects have this runaway flywheel where effects have this runaway flywheel where like I'm going up against Roblox. Roblox like I'm going up against Roblox. Roblox like I'm going up against Roblox. Roblox now has decades and decades and decades now has decades and decades and decades now has decades and decades and decades of onboarding kids. And so you run into of onboarding kids. And so you run into of onboarding kids. And so you run into a problem of the more kids they have, a problem of the more kids they have, a problem of the more kids they have, the more creators they have on the the more creators they have on the the more creators they have on the platform, the more attention they get, platform, the more attention they get, platform, the more attention they get, the harder they are going to be to the harder they are going to be to the harder they are going to be to displace. And so it ends up creating a displace. And so it ends up creating a displace. And so it ends up creating a kind of monopoly and kind of monopoly and kind of monopoly and you want to protect against that. That's you want to protect against that. That's you want to protect against that. That's not me requesting an antitrust against not me requesting an antitrust against not me requesting an antitrust against Roblox. I don't think we're there. But Roblox. I don't think we're there. But Roblox. I don't think we're there. But it recognizing that things like that it recognizing that things like that it recognizing that things like that really are something that create um a really are something that create um a really are something that create um a moat that is just extraordinarily moat that is just extraordinarily moat that is just extraordinarily difficult to overcome. You don't want to difficult to overcome. You don't want to difficult to overcome. You don't want to do that. And so when you have a central do that. And so when you have a central do that. And so when you have a central banking system that steals from banking system that steals from banking system that steals from everybody through inflation and only everybody through inflation and only everybody through inflation and only allows you to win if you play in the allows you to win if you play in the allows you to win if you play in the financial markets and then you let the financial markets and then you let the financial markets and then you let the financial markets get toxic as well. Now financial markets get toxic as well. Now financial markets get toxic as well. Now now you really have through um now you really have through um now you really have through um the sinister ability to lord your the sinister ability to lord your the sinister ability to lord your intellectual power over others. You're intellectual power over others. You're intellectual power over others. You're doing something that is truly sinister doing something that is truly sinister doing something that is truly sinister in my opinion. It would be like imagine in my opinion. It would be like imagine in my opinion. It would be like imagine if Superman came to Earth um but he was if Superman came to Earth um but he was if Superman came to Earth um but he was bad. That's the position that you put bad. That's the position that you put bad. That's the position that you put yourself in. Uh because the the economic yourself in. Uh because the the economic yourself in. Uh because the the economic game played played at that level is like game played played at that level is like game played played at that level is like the Jane Street [ __ ] is so wild and so the Jane Street [ __ ] is so wild and so the Jane Street [ __ ] is so wild and so manipulative. Can be not an accusation manipulative. Can be not an accusation manipulative. Can be not an accusation but just can be absolutely crazy. Uh you but just can be absolutely crazy. Uh you but just can be absolutely crazy. Uh you have to protect against it. have to protect against it. have to protect against it. >> Andrew Whitney says, "First time super >> Andrew Whitney says, "First time super >> Andrew Whitney says, "First time super chatting. Love your show. I've been chatting. Love your show. I've been chatting. Love your show. I've been watching a few months. I've asked a few watching a few months. I've asked a few watching a few months. I've asked a few local house reps in Florida on what they local house reps in Florida on what they local house reps in Florida on what they are willing to do about deficit spending are willing to do about deficit spending are willing to do about deficit spending and they always come back with a and they always come back with a and they always come back with a non-answerp passive. non-answerp passive. non-answerp passive. >> They probably don't understand it. >> They probably don't understand it. >> They probably don't understand it. That's the first thing. And then second That's the first thing. And then second That's the first thing. And then second in terms of its negative consequences. in terms of its negative consequences. in terms of its negative consequences. Uh and then they know to get elected Uh and then they know to get elected Uh and then they know to get elected they've got a deficit spend. It's they've got a deficit spend. It's they've got a deficit spend. It's [ __ ] crazy. [ __ ] crazy. [ __ ] crazy. >> I do think that super chat's important >> I do think that super chat's important >> I do think that super chat's important just on a side note is that if any of just on a side note is that if any of just on a side note is that if any of you genuinely want to go make change, go you genuinely want to go make change, go you genuinely want to go make change, go do things on your local level. I think do things on your local level. I think do things on your local level. I think of a lot of people forget that we are so of a lot of people forget that we are so of a lot of people forget that we are so close to politics at the end of the day close to politics at the end of the day close to politics at the end of the day that it really does just take you that it really does just take you that it really does just take you leaving your house and going to talk to leaving your house and going to talk to leaving your house and going to talk to your um I don't know the word I'm your um I don't know the word I'm your um I don't know the word I'm looking for it but the people looking for it but the people looking for it but the people >> representative >> representative >> representative >> y >> y >> y >> you can go do it >> you can go do it >> you can go do it >> touching grass solves like 70% of the >> touching grass solves like 70% of the >> touching grass solves like 70% of the problems in t chat right now just go problems in t chat right now just go problems in t chat right now just go outside go outside go to a bar go watch outside go outside go to a bar go watch outside go outside go to a bar go watch the next game relax the next game relax the next game relax >> um and last for now we've got an OG >> um and last for now we've got an OG >> um and last for now we've got an OG Leblon have a beautiful and wonderful Leblon have a beautiful and wonderful Leblon have a beautiful and wonderful morning everyone make sure to stay morning everyone make sure to stay morning everyone make sure to stay hydrated and stay away from media for a hydrated and stay away from media for a hydrated and stay away from media for a few days lots of social engineering ing few days lots of social engineering ing few days lots of social engineering ing rings going around on X to get reactions rings going around on X to get reactions rings going around on X to get reactions out of people. Stay positive out of people. Stay positive out of people. Stay positive >> and I love that. I will also say um just >> and I love that. I will also say um just >> and I love that. I will also say um just like when I'm fasting, I will go stand like when I'm fasting, I will go stand like when I'm fasting, I will go stand next to somebody who's cooking, feel my next to somebody who's cooking, feel my next to somebody who's cooking, feel my stomach cramp, smell the smells which stomach cramp, smell the smells which stomach cramp, smell the smells which make me want to eat so desperately and I make me want to eat so desperately and I make me want to eat so desperately and I will say yes, I'm so powerful that I can will say yes, I'm so powerful that I can will say yes, I'm so powerful that I can overcome these impulses and it makes me overcome these impulses and it makes me overcome these impulses and it makes me feel like a superhero. feel like a superhero. feel like a superhero. go into like the most toxic Reddit forum go into like the most toxic Reddit forum go into like the most toxic Reddit forum ever and just practice not being ever and just practice not being ever and just practice not being triggered. Like stay solutionoriented. triggered. Like stay solutionoriented. triggered. Like stay solutionoriented. Okay, there's a problem here. Even the Okay, there's a problem here. Even the Okay, there's a problem here. Even the fact that this po person is getting fact that this po person is getting fact that this po person is getting something out of um putting hate or something out of um putting hate or something out of um putting hate or whatever into the world, ask yourself whatever into the world, ask yourself whatever into the world, ask yourself why. How' they end up there? Is this a a why. How' they end up there? Is this a a why. How' they end up there? Is this a a genetic phenomenon? Were they raised a genetic phenomenon? Were they raised a genetic phenomenon? Were they raised a certain way? Are they feeling a level of certain way? Are they feeling a level of certain way? Are they feeling a level of desperation and this gives them desperation and this gives them desperation and this gives them something? Is this a sociopath? Like something? Is this a sociopath? Like something? Is this a sociopath? Like there is a path to understanding this there is a path to understanding this there is a path to understanding this that I find interesting. I love that you that I find interesting. I love that you that I find interesting. I love that you stopped on that. Oh my god, Tom is the stopped on that. Oh my god, Tom is the stopped on that. Oh my god, Tom is the lunatic. Uh so yeah, you're going to see lunatic. Uh so yeah, you're going to see lunatic. Uh so yeah, you're going to see stuff like that. Just here it is. stuff like that. Just here it is. stuff like that. Just here it is. >> Oh, actually we got a last minute super >> Oh, actually we got a last minute super >> Oh, actually we got a last minute super chat before we go super chat. chat before we go super chat. chat before we go super chat. >> Uh Morgan Xavier says, "Tom, I strive to >> Uh Morgan Xavier says, "Tom, I strive to >> Uh Morgan Xavier says, "Tom, I strive to be more like you every day, but I'm be more like you every day, but I'm be more like you every day, but I'm struggling. Depression sucks. Have you struggling. Depression sucks. Have you struggling. Depression sucks. Have you ever experienced it? If free will is an ever experienced it? If free will is an ever experienced it? If free will is an illusion, then where where's my hope? illusion, then where where's my hope? illusion, then where where's my hope? You succeed because you're programmed You succeed because you're programmed You succeed because you're programmed to, and I don't because likewise." to, and I don't because likewise." to, and I don't because likewise." >> Not true. So this is where the fact that >> Not true. So this is where the fact that >> Not true. So this is where the fact that you have no free will is your greatest you have no free will is your greatest you have no free will is your greatest ally. Because you don't have free will, ally. Because you don't have free will, ally. Because you don't have free will, it means that you operate on a whole it means that you operate on a whole it means that you operate on a whole bunch of if this then that statements. bunch of if this then that statements. bunch of if this then that statements. So that means that your depression is So that means that your depression is So that means that your depression is the end state of a bunch of if this then the end state of a bunch of if this then the end state of a bunch of if this then that. So do this, get this outcome. Do that. So do this, get this outcome. Do that. So do this, get this outcome. Do this, get that outcome. And so this, get that outcome. And so this, get that outcome. And so depression has an ability to unwind. And depression has an ability to unwind. And depression has an ability to unwind. And so now we're going to do the things so now we're going to do the things so now we're going to do the things where we're going to unwind that where we're going to unwind that where we're going to unwind that depression. And so part of this is just depression. And so part of this is just depression. And so part of this is just basically entirely a physiological game. basically entirely a physiological game. basically entirely a physiological game. And so if I were to audit what you're And so if I were to audit what you're And so if I were to audit what you're eating, if I were to audit your exercise eating, if I were to audit your exercise eating, if I were to audit your exercise routine, if I were to audit your sleep routine, if I were to audit your sleep routine, if I were to audit your sleep patterns, all of that, I'm going to find patterns, all of that, I'm going to find patterns, all of that, I'm going to find that you're taking what may have started that you're taking what may have started that you're taking what may have started as a psychological thing, but now it's as a psychological thing, but now it's as a psychological thing, but now it's like also impacting your biology. And so like also impacting your biology. And so like also impacting your biology. And so we're going to unwind the biology. And we're going to unwind the biology. And we're going to unwind the biology. And then the biggest thing, and by the way, then the biggest thing, and by the way, then the biggest thing, and by the way, yes, while I won't claim to have been yes, while I won't claim to have been yes, while I won't claim to have been fully depressed, I was sliding towards fully depressed, I was sliding towards fully depressed, I was sliding towards depression. I would just lay on the depression. I would just lay on the depression. I would just lay on the floor of my apartment feeling like my floor of my apartment feeling like my floor of my apartment feeling like my life is going nowhere. I have no idea life is going nowhere. I have no idea life is going nowhere. I have no idea what to do. I couldn't afford furniture. what to do. I couldn't afford furniture. what to do. I couldn't afford furniture. So, I'm literally laying on the floor of So, I'm literally laying on the floor of So, I'm literally laying on the floor of an unfernished apartment just like what an unfernished apartment just like what an unfernished apartment just like what the [ __ ] am I doing with my life? And it the [ __ ] am I doing with my life? And it the [ __ ] am I doing with my life? And it was miserable. But at the time, I was was miserable. But at the time, I was was miserable. But at the time, I was like, okay, what is my way out? I cannot like, okay, what is my way out? I cannot like, okay, what is my way out? I cannot remember the thing that made me have the remember the thing that made me have the remember the thing that made me have the intuition to go after my biology because intuition to go after my biology because intuition to go after my biology because this is the late 90s. And so it was this is the late 90s. And so it was this is the late 90s. And so it was hotly contested whether or not you could hotly contested whether or not you could hotly contested whether or not you could quote unquote teach a new dog, teach an quote unquote teach a new dog, teach an quote unquote teach a new dog, teach an old dog new tricks. And so there was old dog new tricks. And so there was old dog new tricks. And so there was this research coming out that we now this research coming out that we now this research coming out that we now know is real about the brain plasticity. know is real about the brain plasticity. know is real about the brain plasticity. And I was like, I'm going to choose to And I was like, I'm going to choose to And I was like, I'm going to choose to act even if it ends up not being true. act even if it ends up not being true. act even if it ends up not being true. I'm going to choose to act as if I can I'm going to choose to act as if I can I'm going to choose to act as if I can get better at something. And so my get better at something. And so my get better at something. And so my advice to you, since we now know the advice to you, since we now know the advice to you, since we now know the science is just true, that you can begin science is just true, that you can begin science is just true, that you can begin doing some of these pattern interrupts. doing some of these pattern interrupts. doing some of these pattern interrupts. Can't stop yourself from having the Can't stop yourself from having the Can't stop yourself from having the first negative thought. Call that. It's first negative thought. Call that. It's first negative thought. Call that. It's biologically hardwired, but you can stop biologically hardwired, but you can stop biologically hardwired, but you can stop yourself from repeating it. And so the yourself from repeating it. And so the yourself from repeating it. And so the first negative thought becomes a first negative thought becomes a first negative thought becomes a jiu-jitsu move to force yourself, no jiu-jitsu move to force yourself, no jiu-jitsu move to force yourself, no matter how fake it feels, to think matter how fake it feels, to think matter how fake it feels, to think something positive, to go do something something positive, to go do something something positive, to go do something positive. And if you just get trapped, positive. And if you just get trapped, positive. And if you just get trapped, trapped, trapped, trapped, trapped, go trapped, trapped, trapped, trapped, go trapped, trapped, trapped, trapped, go serve somebody else. If you go do rad serve somebody else. If you go do rad serve somebody else. If you go do rad things for somebody with absolutely no things for somebody with absolutely no things for somebody with absolutely no expectation of anything in return, you expectation of anything in return, you expectation of anything in return, you will start feeling better. We we are will start feeling better. We we are will start feeling better. We we are wired to serve other people. And so find wired to serve other people. And so find wired to serve other people. And so find your way to do something for other your way to do something for other your way to do something for other people. Go big brother. Uh whatever. If people. Go big brother. Uh whatever. If people. Go big brother. Uh whatever. If you've got kids, just go like try to put you've got kids, just go like try to put you've got kids, just go like try to put a smile on their face every day. It's a smile on their face every day. It's a smile on their face every day. It's psychotic because it's just a biological psychotic because it's just a biological psychotic because it's just a biological response, but your biology will be like response, but your biology will be like response, but your biology will be like you did a rad thing and you'll just feel you did a rad thing and you'll just feel you did a rad thing and you'll just feel a little bit better. It's super weird, a little bit better. It's super weird, a little bit better. It's super weird, but it works. Attack the problem from a but it works. Attack the problem from a but it works. Attack the problem from a biological standpoint. biological standpoint. biological standpoint. >> So when you say you have no free will, >> So when you say you have no free will, >> So when you say you have no free will, it's not that you can't manipulate your it's not that you can't manipulate your it's not that you can't manipulate your current setting. It's that you are current setting. It's that you are current setting. It's that you are manipulatable. So just go press those manipulatable. So just go press those manipulatable. So just go press those buttons to change how you feel. buttons to change how you feel. buttons to change how you feel. >> Yes. And the great irony is he couldn't >> Yes. And the great irony is he couldn't >> Yes. And the great irony is he couldn't stop himself from asking that question. stop himself from asking that question. stop himself from asking that question. And I can't stop myself from giving this And I can't stop myself from giving this And I can't stop myself from giving this answer. But he now has that answer. And answer. But he now has that answer. And answer. But he now has that answer. And so it's going to rattle around in his so it's going to rattle around in his so it's going to rattle around in his head. Now the bad news is if he is the head. Now the bad news is if he is the head. Now the bad news is if he is the type of person who is wired to do type of person who is wired to do type of person who is wired to do nothing with that information, he will nothing with that information, he will nothing with that information, he will do nothing with that information. But do nothing with that information. But do nothing with that information. But people really can change. People really people really can change. People really people really can change. People really can do the things. You will be impacted can do the things. You will be impacted can do the things. You will be impacted by ideas and all you have to do is go by ideas and all you have to do is go by ideas and all you have to do is go out and act upon it. Now the whole out and act upon it. Now the whole out and act upon it. Now the whole secret the whole secret to the fact that secret the whole secret to the fact that secret the whole secret to the fact that we are automata is you cannot live like we are automata is you cannot live like we are automata is you cannot live like it. So rule number one act as if you it. So rule number one act as if you it. So rule number one act as if you have free will but the fact that you have free will but the fact that you have free will but the fact that you don't is wonderful news because it means don't is wonderful news because it means don't is wonderful news because it means that you will respond to cause and that you will respond to cause and that you will respond to cause and effect. That's it. And so you just have effect. That's it. And so you just have effect. That's it. And so you just have to get yourself on the cause and effect to get yourself on the cause and effect to get yourself on the cause and effect train and then everything else will take train and then everything else will take train and then everything else will take care of itself. care of itself. care of itself. All right, we got a bunch of topics to All right, we got a bunch of topics to All right, we got a bunch of topics to talk about because we spent an hour and talk about because we spent an hour and talk about because we spent an hour and a half on racism. a half on racism. a half on racism. >> Yeah, we did. Let's go. [laughter] >> Um, okay. First, we have the police >> Um, okay. First, we have the police helicopter, the US helicopter that got helicopter, the US helicopter that got helicopter, the US helicopter that got shot down in Iran. Um, I think two shot down in Iran. Um, I think two shot down in Iran. Um, I think two pilots were involved. Nobody was uh pilots were involved. Nobody was uh pilots were involved. Nobody was uh hurt. This is Donald Trump's tweet. I hurt. This is Donald Trump's tweet. I hurt. This is Donald Trump's tweet. I have just been informed by our great have just been informed by our great have just been informed by our great military that last night the Iran military that last night the Iran military that last night the Iran Iranians shot down one of our highly Iranians shot down one of our highly Iranians shot down one of our highly sophisticated Apache helicopters while sophisticated Apache helicopters while sophisticated Apache helicopters while patrolling over the Straight Horse. patrolling over the Straight Horse. patrolling over the Straight Horse. There were two pilots involved. Both are There were two pilots involved. Both are There were two pilots involved. Both are safe and uninjured. Nevertheless, the US safe and uninjured. Nevertheless, the US safe and uninjured. Nevertheless, the US must of necessity respond to this must of necessity respond to this must of necessity respond to this attack. Thank you for your attention to attack. Thank you for your attention to attack. Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump. this matter, President Donald J. Trump. this matter, President Donald J. Trump. >> There it is. I do not think that Iran is >> There it is. I do not think that Iran is >> There it is. I do not think that Iran is negotiating in good faith. I do not negotiating in good faith. I do not negotiating in good faith. I do not think that they're looking for a think that they're looking for a think that they're looking for a negotiated settlement to this war. Uh so negotiated settlement to this war. Uh so negotiated settlement to this war. Uh so the reality is we have to accept that the reality is we have to accept that the reality is we have to accept that limited warfare does not work, which limited warfare does not work, which limited warfare does not work, which means we are going to be stuck in this means we are going to be stuck in this means we are going to be stuck in this quagmire uh effectively forever until we quagmire uh effectively forever until we quagmire uh effectively forever until we find an exit ramp. The bad news is I find an exit ramp. The bad news is I find an exit ramp. The bad news is I think we have simply made the situation think we have simply made the situation think we have simply made the situation worse. And um what we're probably about worse. And um what we're probably about worse. And um what we're probably about to see is more tit fortat violence. So to see is more tit fortat violence. So to see is more tit fortat violence. So Iran is saying, "Whoa, the US uh Iran is saying, "Whoa, the US uh Iran is saying, "Whoa, the US uh overshot the mark. We're now going to overshot the mark. We're now going to overshot the mark. We're now going to strike back." So we're probably just at strike back." So we're probably just at strike back." So we're probably just at another return to open hostilities. another return to open hostilities. another return to open hostilities. We'll see. Uh but I don't see an end in We'll see. Uh but I don't see an end in We'll see. Uh but I don't see an end in sight. I don't think there is anything sight. I don't think there is anything sight. I don't think there is anything other than the US finally saying, um, other than the US finally saying, um, other than the US finally saying, um, we're either going to hold the blockade we're either going to hold the blockade we're either going to hold the blockade until there's so much international pain until there's so much international pain until there's so much international pain that we can get a bunch of people to that we can get a bunch of people to that we can get a bunch of people to join us in backing down the Iranians. join us in backing down the Iranians. join us in backing down the Iranians. Uh, but to pull that off, you probably Uh, but to pull that off, you probably Uh, but to pull that off, you probably need either China to tell them, "Hey, need either China to tell them, "Hey, need either China to tell them, "Hey, knock it the [ __ ] off." Um knock it the [ __ ] off." Um knock it the [ __ ] off." Um it might be that like you might just it might be that like you might just it might be that like you might just need that if China's not going to tell need that if China's not going to tell need that if China's not going to tell them to do that that you if you walk them to do that that you if you walk them to do that that you if you walk away the US uh that they're going to put away the US uh that they're going to put away the US uh that they're going to put a toll on the straight of Hormuz, which a toll on the straight of Hormuz, which a toll on the straight of Hormuz, which they've already said they're going to they've already said they're going to they've already said they're going to do. They've already started a website do. They've already started a website do. They've already started a website for collecting the tolls. They've for collecting the tolls. They've for collecting the tolls. They've started building the toll booth to started building the toll booth to started building the toll booth to actually get it. And so if the US pulls actually get it. And so if the US pulls actually get it. And so if the US pulls the blockade out, um that's how that's the blockade out, um that's how that's the blockade out, um that's how that's going to play out. You might end up going to play out. You might end up going to play out. You might end up getting a skirmish between Iran and Oman getting a skirmish between Iran and Oman getting a skirmish between Iran and Oman who both want to uh put tolls up. And if who both want to uh put tolls up. And if who both want to uh put tolls up. And if Iran says no, we have the whole thing Iran says no, we have the whole thing Iran says no, we have the whole thing all the way over to your border. Uh all the way over to your border. Uh all the way over to your border. Uh there could be a minor skirmish there, there could be a minor skirmish there, there could be a minor skirmish there, but I don't think Aman thinks that they but I don't think Aman thinks that they but I don't think Aman thinks that they can stand up to Iran. So you'll have can stand up to Iran. So you'll have can stand up to Iran. So you'll have that. Uh if this ends up being the just that. Uh if this ends up being the just that. Uh if this ends up being the just blatant debacle that it the current blatant debacle that it the current blatant debacle that it the current phase is now, if it drags on long phase is now, if it drags on long phase is now, if it drags on long enough, uh then you lose your potential enough, uh then you lose your potential enough, uh then you lose your potential investment from the GCC countries, I investment from the GCC countries, I investment from the GCC countries, I think they all understand, up America's think they all understand, up America's think they all understand, up America's had its Suez Canal moment. They can no had its Suez Canal moment. They can no had its Suez Canal moment. They can no longer protect us. So we've got to longer protect us. So we've got to longer protect us. So we've got to diversify. That's going to be what diversify. That's going to be what diversify. That's going to be what Russia for um some things, China for Russia for um some things, China for Russia for um some things, China for most things. Uh so yeah, you'll see a most things. Uh so yeah, you'll see a most things. Uh so yeah, you'll see a growth in the BRICS alliance. Um so it's growth in the BRICS alliance. Um so it's growth in the BRICS alliance. Um so it's just it's one of those like the British just it's one of those like the British just it's one of those like the British Empire had their Suez Canal moment. It Empire had their Suez Canal moment. It Empire had their Suez Canal moment. It happens unfortunately. Uh we may be at happens unfortunately. Uh we may be at happens unfortunately. Uh we may be at that moment. Then this will all go back that moment. Then this will all go back that moment. Then this will all go back to regional powers, mostly economic to regional powers, mostly economic to regional powers, mostly economic warfare, continued move away from the warfare, continued move away from the warfare, continued move away from the dollar, yada yada. And it just from a dollar, yada yada. And it just from a dollar, yada yada. And it just from a cause and effect standpoint, it all cause and effect standpoint, it all cause and effect standpoint, it all plays out and it ends up you tried to plays out and it ends up you tried to plays out and it ends up you tried to make this a way to forestall um the make this a way to forestall um the make this a way to forestall um the decline of the American empire long decline of the American empire long decline of the American empire long enough for AI to give you the growth you enough for AI to give you the growth you enough for AI to give you the growth you need to get out from under your debt. Uh need to get out from under your debt. Uh need to get out from under your debt. Uh it didn't work. And so now you're back it didn't work. And so now you're back it didn't work. And so now you're back to my 9-year timeline. to my 9-year timeline. to my 9-year timeline. >> Uh next thing, California election fraud >> Uh next thing, California election fraud >> Uh next thing, California election fraud is ramping up. There has been a DOJ is ramping up. There has been a DOJ is ramping up. There has been a DOJ prosecution for Brenda Bound for Brenda prosecution for Brenda Bound for Brenda prosecution for Brenda Bound for Brenda Brown for paying homeless people to Brown for paying homeless people to Brown for paying homeless people to register to vote under false addresses. register to vote under false addresses. register to vote under false addresses. >> Yeah, the crazy thing is, by the way, uh >> Yeah, the crazy thing is, by the way, uh >> Yeah, the crazy thing is, by the way, uh I can you pay them? I don't know if you I can you pay them? I don't know if you I can you pay them? I don't know if you can pay them to vote, but you can ballot can pay them to vote, but you can ballot can pay them to vote, but you can ballot harvest like a [ __ ] harvest like a [ __ ] harvest like a [ __ ] >> So, I don't yet know if the money is the >> So, I don't yet know if the money is the >> So, I don't yet know if the money is the problem. The the fake address is what problem. The the fake address is what problem. The the fake address is what they're actually going to get her for. they're actually going to get her for. they're actually going to get her for. as a reminder to everybody and this is as a reminder to everybody and this is as a reminder to everybody and this is okay. So, um here is my current stance okay. So, um here is my current stance okay. So, um here is my current stance and this certainly will change as more and this certainly will change as more and this certainly will change as more information comes out. My current stance information comes out. My current stance information comes out. My current stance is um whether or not you end up having is um whether or not you end up having is um whether or not you end up having widescale fraud probably pretty low. The widescale fraud probably pretty low. The widescale fraud probably pretty low. The fact that you have widescale ballot fact that you have widescale ballot fact that you have widescale ballot harvesting that is entirely illegal and harvesting that is entirely illegal and harvesting that is entirely illegal and should be illegal is your real problem. should be illegal is your real problem. should be illegal is your real problem. So, this is one of those where just like So, this is one of those where just like So, this is one of those where just like most of the things in the economy that most of the things in the economy that most of the things in the economy that are rigged against you are perfectly are rigged against you are perfectly are rigged against you are perfectly legal. They are happening just out right legal. They are happening just out right legal. They are happening just out right in your face and they are just counting in your face and they are just counting in your face and they are just counting on the fact that you don't understand on the fact that you don't understand on the fact that you don't understand it. California has rigged the elections it. California has rigged the elections it. California has rigged the elections in a way that's absolutely horrific. in a way that's absolutely horrific. in a way that's absolutely horrific. It's sinister from where I'm sitting, It's sinister from where I'm sitting, It's sinister from where I'm sitting, but it's legal. And so now we've got to but it's legal. And so now we've got to but it's legal. And so now we've got to go, okay, well, this bad thing that is go, okay, well, this bad thing that is go, okay, well, this bad thing that is legal, should we be pushing for policy legal, should we be pushing for policy legal, should we be pushing for policy change? will we even be able to get change? will we even be able to get change? will we even be able to get policy change given that this is policy change given that this is policy change given that this is effectively a one party state? Um, and effectively a one party state? Um, and effectively a one party state? Um, and so that's where much like I find myself so that's where much like I find myself so that's where much like I find myself banging the [ __ ] drum to get people banging the [ __ ] drum to get people banging the [ __ ] drum to get people to understand that central banking is to understand that central banking is to understand that central banking is entirely legal and entirely immoral. I entirely legal and entirely immoral. I entirely legal and entirely immoral. I think we have the same thing happening think we have the same thing happening think we have the same thing happening here. You may have an entirely entirely here. You may have an entirely entirely here. You may have an entirely entirely legal system in California for voting legal system in California for voting legal system in California for voting and it's entirely immoral. And so we and it's entirely immoral. And so we and it's entirely immoral. And so we should be addressing it on those grounds should be addressing it on those grounds should be addressing it on those grounds so that this doesn't derail into the so that this doesn't derail into the so that this doesn't derail into the election was stolen and it derails into election was stolen and it derails into election was stolen and it derails into or not derails but that it stays on the or not derails but that it stays on the or not derails but that it stays on the track of these elections are being track of these elections are being track of these elections are being railroaded to one side by creating a railroaded to one side by creating a railroaded to one side by creating a system that favors that side. Because system that favors that side. Because system that favors that side. Because again, this goes back to the left is far again, this goes back to the left is far again, this goes back to the left is far more likely to create policies that more likely to create policies that more likely to create policies that people uh that are call it people uh that are call it people uh that are call it lowinformation voters or all the way lowinformation voters or all the way lowinformation voters or all the way down to homeless and not paying down to homeless and not paying down to homeless and not paying attention at all, um that they're going attention at all, um that they're going attention at all, um that they're going to be incentivized to vote left. And so to be incentivized to vote left. And so to be incentivized to vote left. And so if you just do ballot harvest versus if you just do ballot harvest versus if you just do ballot harvest versus ballot harvest and the right is doing ballot harvest and the right is doing ballot harvest and the right is doing their ballot harvesting, the left's their ballot harvesting, the left's their ballot harvesting, the left's doing their ballot harvesting, it is a doing their ballot harvesting, it is a doing their ballot harvesting, it is a method of getting votes that is always method of getting votes that is always method of getting votes that is always going to be wildly disproportionate on going to be wildly disproportionate on going to be wildly disproportionate on the left. And so you create the sort of the left. And so you create the sort of the left. And so you create the sort of um election style that is the equivalent um election style that is the equivalent um election style that is the equivalent of gerrymandering. It's just it's a of gerrymandering. It's just it's a of gerrymandering. It's just it's a thing that we do, but we shouldn't be thing that we do, but we shouldn't be thing that we do, but we shouldn't be doing it. It's ridiculous and it's doing it. It's ridiculous and it's doing it. It's ridiculous and it's creating all these distortion outcomes. creating all these distortion outcomes. creating all these distortion outcomes. Now, I'm building a new mental model for Now, I'm building a new mental model for Now, I'm building a new mental model for how uh voting should work. I expect it how uh voting should work. I expect it how uh voting should work. I expect it to be highly contentious. Um and so, as to be highly contentious. Um and so, as to be highly contentious. Um and so, as my community here, you guys would never my community here, you guys would never my community here, you guys would never clip this out of context and send it clip this out of context and send it clip this out of context and send it around, of course. Uh but I will thank around, of course. Uh but I will thank around, of course. Uh but I will thank you as a community that only wants to you as a community that only wants to you as a community that only wants to see my thinking get sharper to join me see my thinking get sharper to join me see my thinking get sharper to join me on this journey as we find the the final on this journey as we find the the final on this journey as we find the the final um status here. But I think it needs to um status here. But I think it needs to um status here. But I think it needs to look something like this. Uh voting look something like this. Uh voting look something like this. Uh voting shouldn't just be universal. It's shouldn't just be universal. It's shouldn't just be universal. It's probably not going to break along the probably not going to break along the probably not going to break along the lines of pay tax, doesn't pay tax, but lines of pay tax, doesn't pay tax, but lines of pay tax, doesn't pay tax, but it probably should break along the lines it probably should break along the lines it probably should break along the lines of something like um if you are of something like um if you are of something like um if you are receiving benefits receiving benefits receiving benefits to a certain amount within a given to a certain amount within a given to a certain amount within a given voting period that you are ineligible to voting period that you are ineligible to voting period that you are ineligible to vote. And so you can always get your way vote. And so you can always get your way vote. And so you can always get your way back out of that and get back into the back out of that and get back into the back out of that and get back into the eligible voting pool by not drawing on eligible voting pool by not drawing on eligible voting pool by not drawing on resources because what ends up happening resources because what ends up happening resources because what ends up happening is you're drawing resources and now you is you're drawing resources and now you is you're drawing resources and now you have a financial incentive to continue have a financial incentive to continue have a financial incentive to continue to vote for more of those which creates to vote for more of those which creates to vote for more of those which creates politicians having an incentive to get politicians having an incentive to get politicians having an incentive to get you to draw more benefits which becomes you to draw more benefits which becomes you to draw more benefits which becomes a bigger drag on the economy which puts a bigger drag on the economy which puts a bigger drag on the economy which puts us in the populist moment because it us in the populist moment because it us in the populist moment because it creates that K-shaped. breaks the creates that K-shaped. breaks the creates that K-shaped. breaks the economy, which also creates the economy, which also creates the economy, which also creates the incentive for the people that understand incentive for the people that understand incentive for the people that understand the financial structure to be like, "Oh, the financial structure to be like, "Oh, the financial structure to be like, "Oh, you're going to steal my money through you're going to steal my money through you're going to steal my money through inflation? Well, [ __ ] you. Then I'm just inflation? Well, [ __ ] you. Then I'm just inflation? Well, [ __ ] you. Then I'm just going to do this like hyper going to do this like hyper going to do this like hyper financialized game. I'm going to beat financialized game. I'm going to beat financialized game. I'm going to beat you with that all day, every day." And you with that all day, every day." And you with that all day, every day." And so, yeah, go ahead and [ __ ] the rest of so, yeah, go ahead and [ __ ] the rest of so, yeah, go ahead and [ __ ] the rest of the populace. I'm going to be up here the populace. I'm going to be up here the populace. I'm going to be up here doing my thing. That's all. It's so doing my thing. That's all. It's so doing my thing. That's all. It's so deranging is to be madness. So that's deranging is to be madness. So that's deranging is to be madness. So that's where my initial thinking uh though I where my initial thinking uh though I where my initial thinking uh though I eagerly await people pointing out the um eagerly await people pointing out the um eagerly await people pointing out the um inevitable problems that that may cause inevitable problems that that may cause inevitable problems that that may cause because it really may I've not thought because it really may I've not thought because it really may I've not thought through this enough but that's like my through this enough but that's like my through this enough but that's like my initial swag is like you you can't keep initial swag is like you you can't keep initial swag is like you you can't keep doing what you're doing because show me doing what you're doing because show me doing what you're doing because show me the incentive and I will show you the the incentive and I will show you the the incentive and I will show you the outcome. So, we've created all these outcome. So, we've created all these outcome. So, we've created all these incentives and all the insane voting incentives and all the insane voting incentives and all the insane voting things that we do from uh ballots being things that we do from uh ballots being things that we do from uh ballots being able to come in basically forever. Uh able to come in basically forever. Uh able to come in basically forever. Uh not the signature not needing to match. not the signature not needing to match. not the signature not needing to match. Um that you don't even have to sign, Um that you don't even have to sign, Um that you don't even have to sign, somebody else can sign on your behalf. somebody else can sign on your behalf. somebody else can sign on your behalf. The person who can sign on your behalf, The person who can sign on your behalf, The person who can sign on your behalf, I don't think is limited. They can sign I don't think is limited. They can sign I don't think is limited. They can sign like a gazillion uh ballots. That ballot like a gazillion uh ballots. That ballot like a gazillion uh ballots. That ballot harvesting is legal. So, you can go to harvesting is legal. So, you can go to harvesting is legal. So, you can go to homeless people and say, "Hey, um here homeless people and say, "Hey, um here homeless people and say, "Hey, um here just fill this out." And then again, I just fill this out." And then again, I just fill this out." And then again, I don't know if you can pay them or not. don't know if you can pay them or not. don't know if you can pay them or not. Uh but they'll find ways to be able to Uh but they'll find ways to be able to Uh but they'll find ways to be able to incentivize them. Uh even if it's just, incentivize them. Uh even if it's just, incentivize them. Uh even if it's just, hey, come in and this have a fun time in hey, come in and this have a fun time in hey, come in and this have a fun time in this community center or whatever. Uh so this community center or whatever. Uh so this community center or whatever. Uh so all of that to me is just pure madness. all of that to me is just pure madness. all of that to me is just pure madness. We've got to break those incentives. So We've got to break those incentives. So We've got to break those incentives. So that's my initial thinking. that's my initial thinking. that's my initial thinking. >> All right, Argentina. >> All right, Argentina. >> All right, Argentina. >> Really? Nobody in chats like that's >> Really? Nobody in chats like that's >> Really? Nobody in chats like that's [ __ ] lunatic. [ __ ] lunatic. [ __ ] lunatic. >> We had this conversation on Monday. >> We had this conversation on Monday. >> We had this conversation on Monday. >> No, we didn't. >> No, we didn't. >> No, we didn't. >> Yeah, we had >> Yeah, we had >> Yeah, we had >> I have never said those words out loud >> I have never said those words out loud >> I have never said those words out loud ever before. We literally talked about ever before. We literally talked about ever before. We literally talked about California voting on Monday. California voting on Monday. California voting on Monday. >> Yeah. But I never said that I'm thinking >> Yeah. But I never said that I'm thinking >> Yeah. But I never said that I'm thinking that we should make it based on you that we should make it based on you that we should make it based on you don't uh if you've taken money from the don't uh if you've taken money from the don't uh if you've taken money from the government that you can't do it. government that you can't do it. government that you can't do it. >> That you can't vote. >> That you can't vote. >> That you can't vote. >> That you can't vote. Yeah. I've never >> That you can't vote. Yeah. I've never >> That you can't vote. Yeah. I've never said that before. said that before. said that before. >> Oh, no. >> Oh, no. >> Oh, no. >> I've literally never said those words >> I've literally never said those words >> I've literally never said those words out loud. out loud. out loud. >> But no one mentioned anything about >> But no one mentioned anything about >> But no one mentioned anything about that. that. that. >> Yeah. Well, you talked about >> Yeah. Well, you talked about >> Yeah. Well, you talked about institutionalized people shouldn't vote. institutionalized people shouldn't vote. institutionalized people shouldn't vote. So, I mean, it's So, I mean, it's So, I mean, it's >> obviously I can't believe that was >> obviously I can't believe that was >> obviously I can't believe that was controversial. controversial. controversial. >> Obviously, >> Obviously, >> Obviously, >> that that that is fascinating. I would >> that that that is fascinating. I would >> that that that is fascinating. I would love to follow. Hey, this person is so love to follow. Hey, this person is so love to follow. Hey, this person is so mentally incompetent that we've had to mentally incompetent that we've had to mentally incompetent that we've had to institutionalize them. But I bet they'll institutionalize them. But I bet they'll institutionalize them. But I bet they'll pick a good candidate. pick a good candidate. pick a good candidate. >> Let's just go back to you have to own >> Let's just go back to you have to own >> Let's just go back to you have to own land to vote. land to vote. land to vote. >> You know, that would really solve it. >> You know, that would really solve it. >> You know, that would really solve it. >> And no one's voting. [laughter] >> And no one's voting. [laughter] >> And no one's voting. [laughter] >> Well, so >> Well, so >> Well, so >> that's what it really comes down to. >> that's what it really comes down to. >> that's what it really comes down to. Like you have to have a certain cuz if Like you have to have a certain cuz if Like you have to have a certain cuz if you say you have to pay taxes, that's you say you have to pay taxes, that's you say you have to pay taxes, that's going to eliminate the bottom 50%, going to eliminate the bottom 50%, going to eliminate the bottom 50%, right? right? right? >> Be part of the solution, not part of the >> Be part of the solution, not part of the >> Be part of the solution, not part of the problem. This is where you're saying problem. This is where you're saying problem. This is where you're saying something sarcastically. So instead, go something sarcastically. So instead, go something sarcastically. So instead, go let me tell you why being a land owner let me tell you why being a land owner let me tell you why being a land owner or Tom, let me tell you why putting that or Tom, let me tell you why putting that or Tom, let me tell you why putting that kind of restriction on who can vote is a kind of restriction on who can vote is a kind of restriction on who can vote is a mistake. then walk me through. You know mistake. then walk me through. You know mistake. then walk me through. You know me, I'm like I'm trying to get to a me, I'm like I'm trying to get to a me, I'm like I'm trying to get to a solution. And so we can argue the solution. And so we can argue the solution. And so we can argue the solution I want to get to doesn't make solution I want to get to doesn't make solution I want to get to doesn't make sense or we can argue the way that I sense or we can argue the way that I sense or we can argue the way that I want to get there doesn't make sense. want to get there doesn't make sense. want to get there doesn't make sense. I'm super open. I really want a middle I'm super open. I really want a middle I'm super open. I really want a middle class that thrives. And so uh to get class that thrives. And so uh to get class that thrives. And so uh to get there, I'm saying you have to diffuse there, I'm saying you have to diffuse there, I'm saying you have to diffuse the economic bomb. I can walk people the economic bomb. I can walk people the economic bomb. I can walk people through the cause and effect logic of through the cause and effect logic of through the cause and effect logic of why I think the way that we're doing it why I think the way that we're doing it why I think the way that we're doing it now creates the economic. In fact, I now creates the economic. In fact, I now creates the economic. In fact, I just did. Maybe speed ran it too fast. just did. Maybe speed ran it too fast. just did. Maybe speed ran it too fast. But the the big beats are there. Okay. But the the big beats are there. Okay. But the the big beats are there. Okay. And so we can go. But when we start like And so we can go. But when we start like And so we can go. But when we start like being sarcastic about land owners, which being sarcastic about land owners, which being sarcastic about land owners, which by the way, when the Constitution was by the way, when the Constitution was by the way, when the Constitution was written, that's how written, that's how written, that's how >> the it wasn't. So what ended up >> the it wasn't. So what ended up >> the it wasn't. So what ended up happening was the founding fathers could happening was the founding fathers could happening was the founding fathers could not get the states to agree. And so they not get the states to agree. And so they not get the states to agree. And so they said, uh, whatever in your state said, uh, whatever in your state said, uh, whatever in your state qualifies you to vote for the largest, qualifies you to vote for the largest, qualifies you to vote for the largest, um, member, uh, group. So like I think um, member, uh, group. So like I think um, member, uh, group. So like I think they were thinking Congress versus they were thinking Congress versus they were thinking Congress versus Senate kind of thing. So whatever allows Senate kind of thing. So whatever allows Senate kind of thing. So whatever allows you to vote for that person in that big you to vote for that person in that big you to vote for that person in that big group qualifies you to vote at the group qualifies you to vote at the group qualifies you to vote at the national level. Now they well knew that national level. Now they well knew that national level. Now they well knew that the vast majority of states it was land the vast majority of states it was land the vast majority of states it was land owners but it wasn't everywhere and very owners but it wasn't everywhere and very owners but it wasn't everywhere and very quickly states start dropping the quickly states start dropping the quickly states start dropping the landowner thing. Now when you ask why landowner thing. Now when you ask why landowner thing. Now when you ask why did they want people to be land owners? did they want people to be land owners? did they want people to be land owners? It's actually very it very logical in my It's actually very it very logical in my It's actually very it very logical in my stance. You own a piece of the country. stance. You own a piece of the country. stance. You own a piece of the country. Therefore, you're likely to vote for the Therefore, you're likely to vote for the Therefore, you're likely to vote for the thing that's in the interest of people thing that's in the interest of people thing that's in the interest of people who own a piece of this country. Cool. who own a piece of this country. Cool. who own a piece of this country. Cool. Now, if we go, "Yeah, well, it's too Now, if we go, "Yeah, well, it's too Now, if we go, "Yeah, well, it's too hard to become a land owner, so that's hard to become a land owner, so that's hard to become a land owner, so that's going to create this gentry class. We going to create this gentry class. We going to create this gentry class. We don't like that." Okay, great. But don't don't like that." Okay, great. But don't don't like that." Okay, great. But don't lose sight of what we're trying to do, lose sight of what we're trying to do, lose sight of what we're trying to do, which is you need to be invested in the which is you need to be invested in the which is you need to be invested in the country. country. country. >> And so, now it becomes, okay, what do we >> And so, now it becomes, okay, what do we >> And so, now it becomes, okay, what do we consider investment in the country? And consider investment in the country? And consider investment in the country? And so then it, well, an easy one is you're so then it, well, an easy one is you're so then it, well, an easy one is you're paying taxes. And I would say, well, 50% paying taxes. And I would say, well, 50% paying taxes. And I would say, well, 50% of Americans don't pay any meaningful of Americans don't pay any meaningful of Americans don't pay any meaningful tax whatsoever. And so given that, tax whatsoever. And so given that, tax whatsoever. And so given that, that's like maybe a messy debate, that's like maybe a messy debate, that's like maybe a messy debate, we probably don't go down that route, we probably don't go down that route, we probably don't go down that route, though I get the energy there. What if though I get the energy there. What if though I get the energy there. What if instead we just go, okay, you're not instead we just go, okay, you're not instead we just go, okay, you're not drawing off the system because drawing drawing off the system because drawing drawing off the system because drawing off the system means you're financially off the system means you're financially off the system means you're financially incentivizing yourself to keep drawing incentivizing yourself to keep drawing incentivizing yourself to keep drawing off the system to vote for things that off the system to vote for things that off the system to vote for things that will give you more. That's a it's just will give you more. That's a it's just will give you more. That's a it's just economically deranging just by the economically deranging just by the economically deranging just by the mechanisms of economies. that's always mechanisms of economies. that's always mechanisms of economies. that's always going to result in the situation that going to result in the situation that going to result in the situation that we're in now. K-shaped economy, people we're in now. K-shaped economy, people we're in now. K-shaped economy, people hate each other, screaming towards hate each other, screaming towards hate each other, screaming towards revolution. So from a cause and effect revolution. So from a cause and effect revolution. So from a cause and effect perspective, you can take that one off perspective, you can take that one off perspective, you can take that one off the table, but that is what we're doing the table, but that is what we're doing the table, but that is what we're doing now. And so it's like, okay, well, it's now. And so it's like, okay, well, it's now. And so it's like, okay, well, it's not that, Tom. Because of XYZ reason, not that, Tom. Because of XYZ reason, not that, Tom. Because of XYZ reason, great. What is it? great. What is it? great. What is it? >> Now, if the argument is no, everything >> Now, if the argument is no, everything >> Now, if the argument is no, everything is working perfectly now. I'll cycle you is working perfectly now. I'll cycle you is working perfectly now. I'll cycle you back to economically it's broken. So we back to economically it's broken. So we back to economically it's broken. So we know we have a problem. Uh, and if we know we have a problem. Uh, and if we know we have a problem. Uh, and if we can agree that we have an economic can agree that we have an economic can agree that we have an economic problem, then it's like, okay, we problem, then it's like, okay, we problem, then it's like, okay, we understand each other. We just disagree. understand each other. We just disagree. understand each other. We just disagree. And then I move on to, okay, I'm never And then I move on to, okay, I'm never And then I move on to, okay, I'm never going to get support from Drew. Drew is going to get support from Drew. Drew is going to get support from Drew. Drew is never going to get support from me. never going to get support from me. never going to get support from me. Which is fine. Now, at least we Which is fine. Now, at least we Which is fine. Now, at least we understand each other. But it's like understand each other. But it's like understand each other. But it's like when we eject out of the conversation by when we eject out of the conversation by when we eject out of the conversation by just going, well, let's just make just going, well, let's just make just going, well, let's just make everybody land owners, which I know is everybody land owners, which I know is everybody land owners, which I know is not your real pitch. Then we miss out on not your real pitch. Then we miss out on not your real pitch. Then we miss out on every time I push you on stuff like every time I push you on stuff like every time I push you on stuff like this, you're really insightful. And so this, you're really insightful. And so this, you're really insightful. And so it's like I don't want to see you eject it's like I don't want to see you eject it's like I don't want to see you eject out on the easy one when you could out on the easy one when you could out on the easy one when you could really like show me where I'm going really like show me where I'm going really like show me where I'm going wrong. wrong. wrong. >> Um this is a circular conversation and I >> Um this is a circular conversation and I >> Um this is a circular conversation and I feel like I have 15 minutes to cover feel like I have 15 minutes to cover feel like I have 15 minutes to cover four topics. So look four topics. So look four topics. So look that's that's where the intention is. I that's that's where the intention is. I that's that's where the intention is. I would much rather go to the other topics would much rather go to the other topics would much rather go to the other topics than than than >> All right, let's go >> All right, let's go >> All right, let's go >> restart a conversation that we >> restart a conversation that we >> restart a conversation that we previously had that's going to have 75% previously had that's going to have 75% previously had that's going to have 75% of the same points. Uh because I do want of the same points. Uh because I do want of the same points. Uh because I do want to talk about Argentina because they to talk about Argentina because they to talk about Argentina because they were down bad and we did the currency were down bad and we did the currency were down bad and we did the currency swap and people were saying, "Well, we swap and people were saying, "Well, we swap and people were saying, "Well, we build them out and we rescued them and build them out and we rescued them and build them out and we rescued them and this this and that and then we ended up this this and that and then we ended up this this and that and then we ended up making money off of that deal and then making money off of that deal and then making money off of that deal and then now they're standing on their own two now they're standing on their own two now they're standing on their own two feet and now they just announced a feet and now they just announced a feet and now they just announced a budget surplus which everybody around budget surplus which everybody around budget surplus which everybody around the world thinks that's impossible but the world thinks that's impossible but the world thinks that's impossible but he did it." So I think this is now the a he did it." So I think this is now the a he did it." So I think this is now the a good north star to go to because I feel good north star to go to because I feel good north star to go to because I feel like a budget surplus is the first step like a budget surplus is the first step like a budget surplus is the first step of defusing the economic bomb. of defusing the economic bomb. of defusing the economic bomb. >> No doubt what what they've done in >> No doubt what what they've done in >> No doubt what what they've done in Argentina is absolutely spectacular. The Argentina is absolutely spectacular. The Argentina is absolutely spectacular. The fact that you had somebody come in to a fact that you had somebody come in to a fact that you had somebody come in to a country that has spent over a hundred country that has spent over a hundred country that has spent over a hundred years running socialist policies only to years running socialist policies only to years running socialist policies only to constantly be underwater, be making constantly be underwater, be making constantly be underwater, be making lives worse for everybody in the lives worse for everybody in the lives worse for everybody in the country. He comes in as an economist. He country. He comes in as an economist. He country. He comes in as an economist. He lays out exactly the cause and effect lays out exactly the cause and effect lays out exactly the cause and effect that I talk about endlessly on this show that I talk about endlessly on this show that I talk about endlessly on this show of all the things that they're going to of all the things that they're going to of all the things that they're going to need to do in Argentina to get things need to do in Argentina to get things need to do in Argentina to get things turned around, which largely is just cut turned around, which largely is just cut turned around, which largely is just cut your expenses. And if you don't get your expenses. And if you don't get your expenses. And if you don't get people off the government dole largely people off the government dole largely people off the government dole largely in the form of just government employees in the form of just government employees in the form of just government employees that aren't adding value to the actual that aren't adding value to the actual that aren't adding value to the actual economic future of the country, if you economic future of the country, if you economic future of the country, if you don't do that, you will forever drown. don't do that, you will forever drown. don't do that, you will forever drown. And so he comes in, starts slashing And so he comes in, starts slashing And so he comes in, starts slashing government workers, and yes, he puts a government workers, and yes, he puts a government workers, and yes, he puts a lot of people out of work, but those lot of people out of work, but those lot of people out of work, but those people then find their way into the people then find their way into the people then find their way into the actual productive economy. And the actual productive economy. And the actual productive economy. And the problem is, I think here in America, we problem is, I think here in America, we problem is, I think here in America, we have a delusion that people working for have a delusion that people working for have a delusion that people working for the government are in the productive the government are in the productive the government are in the productive economy. they are not. And so getting as economy. they are not. And so getting as economy. they are not. And so getting as few people working for the government as few people working for the government as few people working for the government as possible should be the goal so that you possible should be the goal so that you possible should be the goal so that you get them in the actual part of the get them in the actual part of the get them in the actual part of the economy that actually does a thing that economy that actually does a thing that economy that actually does a thing that people say has economic value. When they people say has economic value. When they people say has economic value. When they say that they mean you've created a say that they mean you've created a say that they mean you've created a thing I want to buy. I would rather have thing I want to buy. I would rather have thing I want to buy. I would rather have that thing than my money. And so you that thing than my money. And so you that thing than my money. And so you want to migrate as many people as you want to migrate as many people as you want to migrate as many people as you can into that part of the economy. Now can into that part of the economy. Now can into that part of the economy. Now they're gonna have to compete because they're gonna have to compete because they're gonna have to compete because for that to work it's all going to be on for that to work it's all going to be on for that to work it's all going to be on merit. And I get a lot of people don't merit. And I get a lot of people don't merit. And I get a lot of people don't like that and a lot of people don't want like that and a lot of people don't want like that and a lot of people don't want to have to get good. But when you, as we to have to get good. But when you, as we to have to get good. But when you, as we see by Argentina, when you force people see by Argentina, when you force people see by Argentina, when you force people into that, yes, it is a period of into that, yes, it is a period of into that, yes, it is a period of hardship. There is no doubt is a period hardship. There is no doubt is a period hardship. There is no doubt is a period of uncertainty. But then they start of uncertainty. But then they start of uncertainty. But then they start realizing, oh [ __ ] I'm going to have to realizing, oh [ __ ] I'm going to have to realizing, oh [ __ ] I'm going to have to actually perform in the productive actually perform in the productive actually perform in the productive economy and do something that's going to economy and do something that's going to economy and do something that's going to move my country forward. And lo and move my country forward. And lo and move my country forward. And lo and behold, it's actually working. So I am behold, it's actually working. So I am behold, it's actually working. So I am extremely excited to see that somebody's extremely excited to see that somebody's extremely excited to see that somebody's actually able to turn their country actually able to turn their country actually able to turn their country around. This has had nothing to do with around. This has had nothing to do with around. This has had nothing to do with the fact that I also happen to agree as the fact that I also happen to agree as the fact that I also happen to agree as a matter of philosophy with what he's a matter of philosophy with what he's a matter of philosophy with what he's trying to do. I would perfectly happy to trying to do. I would perfectly happy to trying to do. I would perfectly happy to be wrong and see the country turn around be wrong and see the country turn around be wrong and see the country turn around and then go cool. That's the thing that and then go cool. That's the thing that and then go cool. That's the thing that actually works in real life. I want to actually works in real life. I want to actually works in real life. I want to be on the team of cause and effect, the be on the team of cause and effect, the be on the team of cause and effect, the thing that actually works. But what he's thing that actually works. But what he's thing that actually works. But what he's pointing out is this actually works and pointing out is this actually works and pointing out is this actually works and that you can dramatically turn a country that you can dramatically turn a country that you can dramatically turn a country around by getting your cost in control. around by getting your cost in control. around by getting your cost in control. Remember in America, for every dollar, Remember in America, for every dollar, Remember in America, for every dollar, new dollar that we bring in in tax new dollar that we bring in in tax new dollar that we bring in in tax revenue, we spend an additional $1.58. revenue, we spend an additional $1.58. revenue, we spend an additional $1.58. You'll never get out from under that. No You'll never get out from under that. No You'll never get out from under that. No matter how much you tax billionaires, matter how much you tax billionaires, matter how much you tax billionaires, you can literally tax their wealth at you can literally tax their wealth at you can literally tax their wealth at 100%. And if you keep the ratio of every 100%. And if you keep the ratio of every 100%. And if you keep the ratio of every new dollar that we bring in, we spend an new dollar that we bring in, we spend an new dollar that we bring in, we spend an additional $158, then you're going to additional $158, then you're going to additional $158, then you're going to end up in a problem. Solve that problem end up in a problem. Solve that problem end up in a problem. Solve that problem first. Solve that problem first. We have first. Solve that problem first. We have first. Solve that problem first. We have way bigger government than we had even way bigger government than we had even way bigger government than we had even 10 years ago. So this is not like some 10 years ago. So this is not like some 10 years ago. So this is not like some thing, well we've been doing it for 100 thing, well we've been doing it for 100 thing, well we've been doing it for 100 years and how could we even know what years and how could we even know what years and how could we even know what America would look like if we weren't America would look like if we weren't America would look like if we weren't doing this. We didn't do this recently. doing this. We didn't do this recently. doing this. We didn't do this recently. So we've got to get the expenses down So we've got to get the expenses down So we've got to get the expenses down and letting them be our guide is and letting them be our guide is and letting them be our guide is wonderful. wonderful. wonderful. >> Um this is a perfect segue because the >> Um this is a perfect segue because the >> Um this is a perfect segue because the social security trust fund is on track social security trust fund is on track social security trust fund is on track to run out of money in late 2032. Its to run out of money in late 2032. Its to run out of money in late 2032. Its trustees say trustees say trustees say >> that is so soon. >> that is so soon. >> that is so soon. >> Would social security count as not being >> Would social security count as not being >> Would social security count as not being able to vote? Um, social security. able to vote? Um, social security. able to vote? Um, social security. >> I'm open to that. I'm very open to that. >> I'm open to that. I'm very open to that. >> I'm open to that. I'm very open to that. I'd need to really I'd need to really I'd need to really >> that would decimate the mega class >> that would decimate the mega class >> that would decimate the mega class because that's every single citizen. because that's every single citizen. because that's every single citizen. >> It depends on I mean it is what it is. >> It depends on I mean it is what it is. >> It depends on I mean it is what it is. >> So this is one where oftentimes people >> So this is one where oftentimes people >> So this is one where oftentimes people What was the one that Brutus Lugo What was the one that Brutus Lugo What was the one that Brutus Lugo thought he had me on? thought he had me on? thought he had me on? >> Oh [ __ ] I forget. Anyway, >> Oh [ __ ] I forget. Anyway, >> Oh [ __ ] I forget. Anyway, >> what's that? >> what's that? >> what's that? >> Was it today? I can pull it back up. >> Was it today? I can pull it back up. >> Was it today? I can pull it back up. >> No, no, it was yesterday. Okay. Or >> No, no, it was yesterday. Okay. Or >> No, no, it was yesterday. Okay. Or Monday. Um, so there is I I would need Monday. Um, so there is I I would need Monday. Um, so there is I I would need to think through it because you've paid to think through it because you've paid to think through it because you've paid into a system and you're taking back out into a system and you're taking back out into a system and you're taking back out what you paid in. So maybe that one what you paid in. So maybe that one what you paid in. So maybe that one doesn't count and maybe that is um you doesn't count and maybe that is um you doesn't count and maybe that is um you just getting it's basically a forced just getting it's basically a forced just getting it's basically a forced retirement plan. Yeah. retirement plan. Yeah. retirement plan. Yeah. >> Uh now it's a forced retirement plan >> Uh now it's a forced retirement plan >> Uh now it's a forced retirement plan that requires a Ponzi scheme. And so the that requires a Ponzi scheme. And so the that requires a Ponzi scheme. And so the problem that we have now is um you problem that we have now is um you problem that we have now is um you really do have to extend the retirement really do have to extend the retirement really do have to extend the retirement age. That's bad news. I get it. But when age. That's bad news. I get it. But when age. That's bad news. I get it. But when the system was put in place, it was the system was put in place, it was the system was put in place, it was actually designed for most people dying actually designed for most people dying actually designed for most people dying while they were still working. while they were still working. while they were still working. >> So the average age, average life >> So the average age, average life >> So the average age, average life expectancy was lower than the age of expectancy was lower than the age of expectancy was lower than the age of retirement. And I would just say that's retirement. And I would just say that's retirement. And I would just say that's probably what you got to go back to is probably what you got to go back to is probably what you got to go back to is something like that. So if the average something like that. So if the average something like that. So if the average age of life is 78, it's like, well, age of life is 78, it's like, well, age of life is 78, it's like, well, average age of retirement might be average age of retirement might be average age of retirement might be pushing 80. So we're not going to start pushing 80. So we're not going to start pushing 80. So we're not going to start there. I want everybody to freak out. there. I want everybody to freak out. there. I want everybody to freak out. You're going to work your way there and You're going to work your way there and You're going to work your way there and see how we do. Um, but that is you you see how we do. Um, but that is you you see how we do. Um, but that is you you just with the birth rates that we have, just with the birth rates that we have, just with the birth rates that we have, you put yourself in a situation where you put yourself in a situation where you put yourself in a situation where you find yourself desperate and so you you find yourself desperate and so you you find yourself desperate and so you start bringing a bunch of immigrants in start bringing a bunch of immigrants in start bringing a bunch of immigrants in and you tell yourself the lie that and you tell yourself the lie that and you tell yourself the lie that immigrants are net positive, which they immigrants are net positive, which they immigrants are net positive, which they are not. Uh, and so you end up with them are not. Uh, and so you end up with them are not. Uh, and so you end up with them further exacerbating the problem and so further exacerbating the problem and so further exacerbating the problem and so it all becomes bad very fast. it all becomes bad very fast. it all becomes bad very fast. >> Yeah. What is a social security like >> Yeah. What is a social security like >> Yeah. What is a social security like solution? Cuz it is I've been paying solution? Cuz it is I've been paying solution? Cuz it is I've been paying into it. you've been banging like we've into it. you've been banging like we've into it. you've been banging like we've all paid into that we thought we were all paid into that we thought we were all paid into that we thought we were going to get and then now nobody's going going to get and then now nobody's going going to get and then now nobody's going to get to get to get >> you either have to grow your economy at >> you either have to grow your economy at >> you either have to grow your economy at a freakish level and reduce your a freakish level and reduce your a freakish level and reduce your spending or you have to raise the spending or you have to raise the spending or you have to raise the retirement age. The the sort of great retirement age. The the sort of great retirement age. The the sort of great news is there's nothing fancy like news is there's nothing fancy like news is there's nothing fancy like you you have to pay the people later or you you have to pay the people later or you you have to pay the people later or less. So I guess that's another one. You less. So I guess that's another one. You less. So I guess that's another one. You could just reduce the amount that people could just reduce the amount that people could just reduce the amount that people are getting paid in their social are getting paid in their social are getting paid in their social security but you could also means test security but you could also means test security but you could also means test it. Hey, I know you paid into the it. Hey, I know you paid into the it. Hey, I know you paid into the system, but you're actually doing great. system, but you're actually doing great. system, but you're actually doing great. So, sorry. No more social security for So, sorry. No more social security for So, sorry. No more social security for you. These are the tough options. But you. These are the tough options. But you. These are the tough options. But the reality is you put in place a system the reality is you put in place a system the reality is you put in place a system that cannot support itself. that cannot support itself. that cannot support itself. >> It works for a while, but it doesn't >> It works for a while, but it doesn't >> It works for a while, but it doesn't work forever. work forever. work forever. >> Uh >> Uh >> Uh that's interesting because the life that's interesting because the life that's interesting because the life expectancy rate now is 79 years average expectancy rate now is 79 years average expectancy rate now is 79 years average between both males and females. Uh, so between both males and females. Uh, so between both males and females. Uh, so then you'll have to raise the retirement then you'll have to raise the retirement then you'll have to raise the retirement age 85 age 85 age 85 >> 80 81. Yeah, because I think it used to >> 80 81. Yeah, because I think it used to >> 80 81. Yeah, because I think it used to be two years over the average life be two years over the average life be two years over the average life expectancy. expectancy. expectancy. >> Now, here's the bad news. People now are >> Now, here's the bad news. People now are >> Now, here's the bad news. People now are living longer, but they're [ __ ] sick living longer, but they're [ __ ] sick living longer, but they're [ __ ] sick >> for like a lot of the end of their life. >> for like a lot of the end of their life. >> for like a lot of the end of their life. So, I think you're going to run into uh So, I think you're going to run into uh So, I think you're going to run into uh just a factual problem. And this is just a factual problem. And this is just a factual problem. And this is where I always expect this to be more where I always expect this to be more where I always expect this to be more unpopular. Maybe I just don't say it unpopular. Maybe I just don't say it unpopular. Maybe I just don't say it loud enough or enough, but I think loud enough or enough, but I think loud enough or enough, but I think families should be taking care of them, families should be taking care of them, families should be taking care of them, their own family. And so this should not their own family. And so this should not their own family. And so this should not become a government burden. And become a government burden. And become a government burden. And [clears throat] I think a big part of [clears throat] I think a big part of [clears throat] I think a big part of the psychology of Americans because the psychology of Americans because the psychology of Americans because we've been prosperous for so long is we've been prosperous for so long is we've been prosperous for so long is that I don't need a family. I've got the that I don't need a family. I've got the that I don't need a family. I've got the government. government. government. >> And I think that is the absolute wrong >> And I think that is the absolute wrong >> And I think that is the absolute wrong lesson to teach. Now, that has lesson to teach. Now, that has lesson to teach. Now, that has implications for men and women as well. implications for men and women as well. implications for men and women as well. [snorts] [snorts] [snorts] Ye. So, that's going to get Ye. So, that's going to get Ye. So, that's going to get uncomfortable real fast. Uh, but uncomfortable real fast. Uh, but uncomfortable real fast. Uh, but nonetheless, I think it's true. I, uh, nonetheless, I think it's true. I, uh, nonetheless, I think it's true. I, uh, people need to think of themselves. I people need to think of themselves. I people need to think of themselves. I need to be self-sufficient. One of the need to be self-sufficient. One of the need to be self-sufficient. One of the ways that I, um, protect myself is by ways that I, um, protect myself is by ways that I, um, protect myself is by having a strong family unit and a strong having a strong family unit and a strong having a strong family unit and a strong social group, and that may be religious. social group, and that may be religious. social group, and that may be religious. Uh, but you've got to push that burden Uh, but you've got to push that burden Uh, but you've got to push that burden down to the individual instead of trying down to the individual instead of trying down to the individual instead of trying to solve everything at the government to solve everything at the government to solve everything at the government level. Um, and it gets even better level. Um, and it gets even better level. Um, and it gets even better because now uh boomers are never going because now uh boomers are never going because now uh boomers are never going to die because they just came up with a to die because they just came up with a to die because they just came up with a new epigenetic restor restoration drug new epigenetic restor restoration drug new epigenetic restor restoration drug that is going to allow them to live that is going to allow them to live that is going to allow them to live forever. So, not only are they going to forever. So, not only are they going to forever. So, not only are they going to bankrupt social security, they're going bankrupt social security, they're going bankrupt social security, they're going to live to 145 and it's only going to be to live to 145 and it's only going to be to live to 145 and it's only going to be available for people between the ages of available for people between the ages of available for people between the ages of like 45 and 70. like 45 and 70. like 45 and 70. >> Well, the kill all the young people off. >> Well, the kill all the young people off. >> Well, the kill all the young people off. >> The good or the bad news there is that >> The good or the bad news there is that >> The good or the bad news there is that uh they will find themselves having to uh they will find themselves having to uh they will find themselves having to work again at, you know, whatever 115. work again at, you know, whatever 115. work again at, you know, whatever 115. So, um, this this is an unmititigated So, um, this this is an unmititigated So, um, this this is an unmititigated good. I hope that this is real. We'll good. I hope that this is real. We'll good. I hope that this is real. We'll find out. Um, all of this stuff should find out. Um, all of this stuff should find out. Um, all of this stuff should be taken with a grain of salt, but this be taken with a grain of salt, but this be taken with a grain of salt, but this one has me very excited. And so, their one has me very excited. And so, their one has me very excited. And so, their estimation is that they'll be able to estimation is that they'll be able to estimation is that they'll be able to shave like 10 years of aging off of shave like 10 years of aging off of shave like 10 years of aging off of people within the next year. We'll see. people within the next year. We'll see. people within the next year. We'll see. Again, this hasn't proven, but when you Again, this hasn't proven, but when you Again, this hasn't proven, but when you look at what aging actually is, so look at what aging actually is, so look at what aging actually is, so again, you live in a deterministic again, you live in a deterministic again, you live in a deterministic universe. So when you look at what aging universe. So when you look at what aging universe. So when you look at what aging actually is, it is the um actually is, it is the um actually is, it is the um differentiation differentiation differentiation of cells. So a cell should be hyper of cells. So a cell should be hyper of cells. So a cell should be hyper differentiated. An eye cell should be an differentiated. An eye cell should be an differentiated. An eye cell should be an eye cell. Heart cell should be a heart eye cell. Heart cell should be a heart eye cell. Heart cell should be a heart cell. When you start aging, there's cell. When you start aging, there's cell. When you start aging, there's something called methylation markers something called methylation markers something called methylation markers that tell your DNA what part of the DNA that tell your DNA what part of the DNA that tell your DNA what part of the DNA strand to unwind. Because strand to unwind. Because strand to unwind. Because [clears throat] your entire body, every [clears throat] your entire body, every [clears throat] your entire body, every cell is encoded in every bit of DNA. And cell is encoded in every bit of DNA. And cell is encoded in every bit of DNA. And then you put these little methyl markers then you put these little methyl markers then you put these little methyl markers and you say, "I'm actually an eye cell." and you say, "I'm actually an eye cell." and you say, "I'm actually an eye cell." And so that part unspools and the little And so that part unspools and the little And so that part unspools and the little readers come along and read it and go, readers come along and read it and go, readers come along and read it and go, "Oh, cool. I'm an eye cell." And they "Oh, cool. I'm an eye cell." And they "Oh, cool. I'm an eye cell." And they rebuild that eye cell. Those methylation rebuild that eye cell. Those methylation rebuild that eye cell. Those methylation markers get put in the wrong place as markers get put in the wrong place as markers get put in the wrong place as you age. And so it's like, "I'm an you age. And so it's like, "I'm an you age. And so it's like, "I'm an eyeart cell." And so you're like, "Wait, eyeart cell." And so you're like, "Wait, eyeart cell." And so you're like, "Wait, what?" And so what that manifests as is what?" And so what that manifests as is what?" And so what that manifests as is like wrinkly skin, poor performing like wrinkly skin, poor performing like wrinkly skin, poor performing kidneys, weakening of the heart muscle, kidneys, weakening of the heart muscle, kidneys, weakening of the heart muscle, all of that stuff. And so if this works, all of that stuff. And so if this works, all of that stuff. And so if this works, what it does is it goes into the um what it does is it goes into the um what it does is it goes into the um those epigenetic markers and it's like, those epigenetic markers and it's like, those epigenetic markers and it's like, "Nah, [ __ ] you really are an eye cell. "Nah, [ __ ] you really are an eye cell. "Nah, [ __ ] you really are an eye cell. You really are a heart cell." And the You really are a heart cell." And the You really are a heart cell." And the methylation markers go back to where methylation markers go back to where methylation markers go back to where they should be. And it's like, "Cool. I they should be. And it's like, "Cool. I they should be. And it's like, "Cool. I know exactly what kind of cell I am know exactly what kind of cell I am know exactly what kind of cell I am again." And if it works, oh my god, this again." And if it works, oh my god, this again." And if it works, oh my god, this could have the kind of staggering could have the kind of staggering could have the kind of staggering results that we've seen on obesity from results that we've seen on obesity from results that we've seen on obesity from GLP1 inhibitors. You could see from an GLP1 inhibitors. You could see from an GLP1 inhibitors. You could see from an anti-aging perspective. That [ __ ] would anti-aging perspective. That [ __ ] would anti-aging perspective. That [ __ ] would be wild, man. That would be wild. be wild, man. That would be wild. be wild, man. That would be wild. >> Um, do you think that people will live >> Um, do you think that people will live >> Um, do you think that people will live forever? forever? forever? >> No, but I think that I mean eventually, >> No, but I think that I mean eventually, >> No, but I think that I mean eventually, yes. But at that point, I think we're yes. But at that point, I think we're yes. But at that point, I think we're synthetic creatures. synthetic creatures. synthetic creatures. >> Well, yeah. Well, okay. Forever >> Well, yeah. Well, okay. Forever >> Well, yeah. Well, okay. Forever >> in the near future, like us, >> in the near future, like us, >> in the near future, like us, >> you think like 150 like what? >> you think like 150 like what? >> you think like 150 like what? >> I think if you if you stay healthy and >> I think if you if you stay healthy and >> I think if you if you stay healthy and you're let's say you're let's say you're let's say if you're under 40, it's basically a if you're under 40, it's basically a if you're under 40, it's basically a guarantee. If you're under 60, you've guarantee. If you're under 60, you've guarantee. If you're under 60, you've got a real shot got a real shot got a real shot >> that in the next call it 10 to 15 years >> that in the next call it 10 to 15 years >> that in the next call it 10 to 15 years with the assistance of AI that you will with the assistance of AI that you will with the assistance of AI that you will be able to radically extend life be able to radically extend life be able to radically extend life expectancy by doing the following. For expectancy by doing the following. For expectancy by doing the following. For every year of time that goes by, every year of time that goes by, every year of time that goes by, medicine adds let's say 1.1 or 1.2 years medicine adds let's say 1.1 or 1.2 years medicine adds let's say 1.1 or 1.2 years to your life expectancy. meaning your to your life expectancy. meaning your to your life expectancy. meaning your life expectancy is always getting 10 or life expectancy is always getting 10 or life expectancy is always getting 10 or 20% longer with every day that passes. 20% longer with every day that passes. 20% longer with every day that passes. And so now all of a sudden it's like, oh And so now all of a sudden it's like, oh And so now all of a sudden it's like, oh [ __ ] like [ __ ] like [ __ ] like >> it's not like all diseases are cured, >> it's not like all diseases are cured, >> it's not like all diseases are cured, but now if average life expectancy is but now if average life expectancy is but now if average life expectancy is 78, all of a sudden it's 79, 80, 81, 82. 78, all of a sudden it's 79, 80, 81, 82. 78, all of a sudden it's 79, 80, 81, 82. And so it's like as long as it becomes And so it's like as long as it becomes And so it's like as long as it becomes >> from 82 to 83 faster than I age from 60 >> from 82 to 83 faster than I age from 60 >> from 82 to 83 faster than I age from 60 to 61, I'm never going to hit it. And so to 61, I'm never going to hit it. And so to 61, I'm never going to hit it. And so then it becomes you only die of trauma. then it becomes you only die of trauma. then it becomes you only die of trauma. Now I think that that will have its own Now I think that that will have its own Now I think that that will have its own set of problems. But I do think that we set of problems. But I do think that we set of problems. But I do think that we in in in >> I'm sort of maybe the bubble generation, >> I'm sort of maybe the bubble generation, >> I'm sort of maybe the bubble generation, but I think that for sure people that but I think that for sure people that but I think that for sure people that are 40 and under can expect their lives are 40 and under can expect their lives are 40 and under can expect their lives to be radically extended. That people to be radically extended. That people to be radically extended. That people would think you died way too young if would think you died way too young if would think you died way too young if you don't hit 120. 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Uh, and I'm grateful uh for what they've extended to us. So, uh for what they've extended to us. So, uh for what they've extended to us. So, yes, for sure. These are people that I yes, for sure. These are people that I yes, for sure. These are people that I stand behind big time. stand behind big time. stand behind big time. >> And Truth De was like, "When's the last >> And Truth De was like, "When's the last >> And Truth De was like, "When's the last time you had Payload Valley?" Like time you had Payload Valley?" Like time you had Payload Valley?" Like literally, they have them in a break literally, they have them in a break literally, they have them in a break room. Like, I'd be sneaking and turn room. Like, I'd be sneaking and turn room. Like, I'd be sneaking and turn them up. I'd be eating Lisa's. Don't them up. I'd be eating Lisa's. Don't them up. I'd be eating Lisa's. Don't tell Lisa, though. tell Lisa, though. tell Lisa, though. >> Uh, all right. Uh, we got some super >> Uh, all right. Uh, we got some super >> Uh, all right. Uh, we got some super chats we got to hit. chats we got to hit. chats we got to hit. >> Yes, we do. We got four to go through. B >> Yes, we do. We got four to go through. B >> Yes, we do. We got four to go through. B O says, "The saddest thing happening O says, "The saddest thing happening O says, "The saddest thing happening right now is that the older people get, right now is that the older people get, right now is that the older people get, the less they seem to care about new the less they seem to care about new the less they seem to care about new gens. My grandma's friend wanted to gens. My grandma's friend wanted to gens. My grandma's friend wanted to argue politics with me and when she was argue politics with me and when she was argue politics with me and when she was losing said, I'll be dead anyway. She losing said, I'll be dead anyway. She losing said, I'll be dead anyway. She voted Trump." [laughter] >> Trump car on the table. Well, I'm dead. >> Trump car on the table. Well, I'm dead. Figure it out. Figure it out. Figure it out. >> That is wild. [laughter] >> That is wild. [laughter] >> That is wild. [laughter] That's such a That's very sad. Now, That's such a That's very sad. Now, That's such a That's very sad. Now, look, she probably just hit the look, she probably just hit the look, she probably just hit the termination point and she got emotional termination point and she got emotional termination point and she got emotional because you would hope that it's like, because you would hope that it's like, because you would hope that it's like, I'm going to be dead anyway, so let me I'm going to be dead anyway, so let me I'm going to be dead anyway, so let me vote for the thing that's good for the vote for the thing that's good for the vote for the thing that's good for the kids. The problem is I don't trust them kids. The problem is I don't trust them kids. The problem is I don't trust them to actually understand what's good for to actually understand what's good for to actually understand what's good for the kids. I trust them to have an the kids. I trust them to have an the kids. I trust them to have an emotional take on what's good for the emotional take on what's good for the emotional take on what's good for the kids, but not what's actually good for kids, but not what's actually good for kids, but not what's actually good for the kids. Um, so that one's the kids. Um, so that one's the kids. Um, so that one's heartbreaking. The the reason is very heartbreaking. The the reason is very heartbreaking. The the reason is very simple and and this will play out until simple and and this will play out until simple and and this will play out until the end of time. And I'll say to Gen Z the end of time. And I'll say to Gen Z the end of time. And I'll say to Gen Z and Gen Alpha, if any of you are and Gen Alpha, if any of you are and Gen Alpha, if any of you are listening right now, you will one day be listening right now, you will one day be listening right now, you will one day be the old people. You will one day be the the old people. You will one day be the the old people. You will one day be the people that are so out of touch. And so people that are so out of touch. And so people that are so out of touch. And so when you're clowning on your elders for when you're clowning on your elders for when you're clowning on your elders for being totally tech dysfunctional, that's being totally tech dysfunctional, that's being totally tech dysfunctional, that's going to be you one day. Now, to all the going to be you one day. Now, to all the going to be you one day. Now, to all the old people, I will remind you, remember old people, I will remind you, remember old people, I will remind you, remember what it was like to be young and to feel what it was like to be young and to feel what it was like to be young and to feel like old people legitimately were not like old people legitimately were not like old people legitimately were not from the same planet that you were from from the same planet that you were from from the same planet that you were from and like what world are they in touch and like what world are they in touch and like what world are they in touch with? This is the cycle. young people with? This is the cycle. young people with? This is the cycle. young people are going to get the world that they are going to get the world that they are going to get the world that they want. And so, um, screaming into the want. And so, um, screaming into the want. And so, um, screaming into the void makes no sense. Putting all of your void makes no sense. Putting all of your void makes no sense. Putting all of your time and energy into making sure that time and energy into making sure that time and energy into making sure that they can thrive, that they have they can thrive, that they have they can thrive, that they have incredible chances, that they get to incredible chances, that they get to incredible chances, that they get to have a joyfilled life where they're have a joyfilled life where they're have a joyfilled life where they're almost giddy, not almost, that they're almost giddy, not almost, that they're almost giddy, not almost, that they're giddy at the prospect of their future. giddy at the prospect of their future. giddy at the prospect of their future. That is when you think about like That is when you think about like That is when you think about like serving, serve the next generation in serving, serve the next generation in serving, serve the next generation in that way. It's one of the great ways to that way. It's one of the great ways to that way. It's one of the great ways to feel good about yourself is to really go feel good about yourself is to really go feel good about yourself is to really go to bat for the people coming up behind to bat for the people coming up behind to bat for the people coming up behind you. Um we God has seen it fit to make you. Um we God has seen it fit to make you. Um we God has seen it fit to make it such that we pass the torch. And so it such that we pass the torch. And so it such that we pass the torch. And so you should whether you have kids or not, you should whether you have kids or not, you should whether you have kids or not, you should hunger to be a part of that you should hunger to be a part of that you should hunger to be a part of that to build a foundation that feels good to build a foundation that feels good to build a foundation that feels good that you've grown a tree under whose that you've grown a tree under whose that you've grown a tree under whose shade you will not sit. And if you can shade you will not sit. And if you can shade you will not sit. And if you can like imbue yourself with that and like imbue yourself with that and like imbue yourself with that and they're not going to celebrate you for they're not going to celebrate you for they're not going to celebrate you for it, they don't have the context. They it, they don't have the context. They it, they don't have the context. They they're not old enough to have they're not old enough to have they're not old enough to have experience enough to even recognize all experience enough to even recognize all experience enough to even recognize all of the patterns of life. of the patterns of life. of the patterns of life. You didn't either. And so don't be mad You didn't either. And so don't be mad You didn't either. And so don't be mad at them for being young. Like be at them for being young. Like be at them for being young. Like be enthused by that. Lease and I talk about enthused by that. Lease and I talk about enthused by that. Lease and I talk about this. And look, I get it. Part of it is this. And look, I get it. Part of it is this. And look, I get it. Part of it is that we don't have kids. And so for us that we don't have kids. And so for us that we don't have kids. And so for us when we encounter young people doing when we encounter young people doing when we encounter young people doing young things, even sometimes very noisy, young things, even sometimes very noisy, young things, even sometimes very noisy, very late, you know, whatever. Uh that very late, you know, whatever. Uh that very late, you know, whatever. Uh that we love it. We love to see that energy. we love it. We love to see that energy. we love it. We love to see that energy. And so if you can find a way in your And so if you can find a way in your And so if you can find a way in your heart to just be like, I want to see heart to just be like, I want to see heart to just be like, I want to see young people do young things. I want to young people do young things. I want to young people do young things. I want to see them have economic opportunities. I see them have economic opportunities. I see them have economic opportunities. I want to see them um want to build and want to see them um want to build and want to see them um want to build and create and it's going to be different create and it's going to be different create and it's going to be different than the thing that you build and than the thing that you build and than the thing that you build and create. That just is what it is. Uh but create. That just is what it is. Uh but create. That just is what it is. Uh but recognize that pattern. Now, also seek recognize that pattern. Now, also seek recognize that pattern. Now, also seek relevance in your own life. Do things relevance in your own life. Do things relevance in your own life. Do things that you care about. Don't consign that you care about. Don't consign that you care about. Don't consign yourself to the like, well, I'm just yourself to the like, well, I'm just yourself to the like, well, I'm just [ __ ] dying and I'm on the back half [ __ ] dying and I'm on the back half [ __ ] dying and I'm on the back half and all that [ __ ] It's like, cool. and all that [ __ ] It's like, cool. and all that [ __ ] It's like, cool. Look at Arthur Brooks. What do you have Look at Arthur Brooks. What do you have Look at Arthur Brooks. What do you have to offer right now today? Like you've to offer right now today? Like you've to offer right now today? Like you've got a new form of intelligence you can got a new form of intelligence you can got a new form of intelligence you can synthesize. It is utterly fascinating to synthesize. It is utterly fascinating to synthesize. It is utterly fascinating to me that historians get better right up me that historians get better right up me that historians get better right up until the time they either die or they until the time they either die or they until the time they either die or they begin to lose their cognition. That begin to lose their cognition. That begin to lose their cognition. That means there is a type of intelligence means there is a type of intelligence means there is a type of intelligence that only people who've been on the that only people who've been on the that only people who've been on the planet for a very long time are going to planet for a very long time are going to planet for a very long time are going to be able to to accumulate. I get it. It be able to to accumulate. I get it. It be able to to accumulate. I get it. It it is very sad that uh there is a type it is very sad that uh there is a type it is very sad that uh there is a type of genius that is only available to of genius that is only available to of genius that is only available to people that are young. It's a bummer. people that are young. It's a bummer. people that are young. It's a bummer. But there's a type of genius that's only But there's a type of genius that's only But there's a type of genius that's only available to older people. So figure available to older people. So figure available to older people. So figure that out. Tap into that. All right, get that out. Tap into that. All right, get that out. Tap into that. All right, get off that soap box. But very interesting. off that soap box. But very interesting. off that soap box. But very interesting. >> Graphs 2 says, "The contradiction of >> Graphs 2 says, "The contradiction of >> Graphs 2 says, "The contradiction of there is no will nor free will for a there is no will nor free will for a there is no will nor free will for a depressed person to change is jarring. depressed person to change is jarring. depressed person to change is jarring. If you're code and programmed have no If you're code and programmed have no If you're code and programmed have no will to be able to change your own code, will to be able to change your own code, will to be able to change your own code, how can they get out of depression? how can they get out of depression? how can they get out of depression? >> That's not how it is. So you are >> That's not how it is. So you are >> That's not how it is. So you are literally programmed in a way that you literally programmed in a way that you literally programmed in a way that you can't escape to change your own code. We can't escape to change your own code. We can't escape to change your own code. We are both the sculptor and the clay. And are both the sculptor and the clay. And are both the sculptor and the clay. And so that here's the thing. You you may so that here's the thing. You you may so that here's the thing. You you may unfortunately be wired in a way to be unfortunately be wired in a way to be unfortunately be wired in a way to be stuck in that loop. And there may be no stuck in that loop. And there may be no stuck in that loop. And there may be no magical sequences of words that I will magical sequences of words that I will magical sequences of words that I will be able to say to get you out of that. be able to say to get you out of that. be able to say to get you out of that. The problem is the thing I'm always The problem is the thing I'm always The problem is the thing I'm always afraid of is that you're not wired to be afraid of is that you're not wired to be afraid of is that you're not wired to be stuck in that. You're actually wired to stuck in that. You're actually wired to stuck in that. You're actually wired to be stuck when the person tells you that be stuck when the person tells you that be stuck when the person tells you that you're an automata. And it's that idea you're an automata. And it's that idea you're an automata. And it's that idea that now breaks you. So I would just that now breaks you. So I would just that now breaks you. So I would just tell you you can change now. Now whether tell you you can change now. Now whether tell you you can change now. Now whether you do or not is entirely up to the you do or not is entirely up to the you do or not is entirely up to the actions that you take. So um best of actions that you take. So um best of actions that you take. So um best of luck. I don't know which idea is going luck. I don't know which idea is going luck. I don't know which idea is going to set you free and I don't know which to set you free and I don't know which to set you free and I don't know which idea is going to trap you. We are all idea is going to trap you. We are all idea is going to trap you. We are all set free by ideas. We are all trapped by set free by ideas. We are all trapped by set free by ideas. We are all trapped by ideas. We are all able to change ideas. We are all able to change ideas. We are all able to change ourselves and very few of us do. But it ourselves and very few of us do. But it ourselves and very few of us do. But it is available to anybody. So I hope that is available to anybody. So I hope that is available to anybody. So I hope that you will take that and absolutely live you will take that and absolutely live you will take that and absolutely live your life like you have free will. And your life like you have free will. And your life like you have free will. And if you are a person who is wired to be if you are a person who is wired to be if you are a person who is wired to be stuck, you have my deepest empathy. It stuck, you have my deepest empathy. It stuck, you have my deepest empathy. It sucks. Uh, I've seen it happen to way sucks. Uh, I've seen it happen to way sucks. Uh, I've seen it happen to way too many people that I love. Um, but too many people that I love. Um, but too many people that I love. Um, but humans can and do change at all times. humans can and do change at all times. humans can and do change at all times. You are a slave to your biology, which You are a slave to your biology, which You are a slave to your biology, which means you need only press the right means you need only press the right means you need only press the right buttons. And you can turn the fact that buttons. And you can turn the fact that buttons. And you can turn the fact that you're a slave to your biology into the you're a slave to your biology into the you're a slave to your biology into the thing that makes every day feel awesome. thing that makes every day feel awesome. thing that makes every day feel awesome. So, So, So, >> would you compare it to like a car? >> would you compare it to like a car? >> would you compare it to like a car? Maybe. I think people just need an Maybe. I think people just need an Maybe. I think people just need an analogy. Like a car has no free will, analogy. Like a car has no free will, analogy. Like a car has no free will, but it can stop, it can go, it can but it can stop, it can go, it can but it can stop, it can go, it can speed, it can break. speed, it can break. speed, it can break. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Trying to think of like to show that you >> Trying to think of like to show that you >> Trying to think of like to show that you you press inputs, it gets to output, but you press inputs, it gets to output, but you press inputs, it gets to output, but those are predetermined. That's perfect. those are predetermined. That's perfect. those are predetermined. That's perfect. I think the thing that will lend the I think the thing that will lend the I think the thing that will lend the right amount of complexity and like how right amount of complexity and like how right amount of complexity and like how I can get stuck even though this I can get stuck even though this I can get stuck even though this deterministic is you're like a computer deterministic is you're like a computer deterministic is you're like a computer running code running code running code >> and it's complex. You often can't tell >> and it's complex. You often can't tell >> and it's complex. You often can't tell what's going on. But you know that if what's going on. But you know that if what's going on. But you know that if you move your mouse the little cursor is you move your mouse the little cursor is you move your mouse the little cursor is going to go somewhere. And by the way, going to go somewhere. And by the way, going to go somewhere. And by the way, you know if it freezes and you can't you know if it freezes and you can't you know if it freezes and you can't [ __ ] do anything that you just reset [ __ ] do anything that you just reset [ __ ] do anything that you just reset it. And so the reset is the get good it. And so the reset is the get good it. And so the reset is the get good sleep, eat right, exercise. Like it will sleep, eat right, exercise. Like it will sleep, eat right, exercise. Like it will it will do things biologically that are it will do things biologically that are it will do things biologically that are very similar to resetting a computer very similar to resetting a computer very similar to resetting a computer that's glitching the [ __ ] out. that's glitching the [ __ ] out. that's glitching the [ __ ] out. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Blake Bullion says, "A point system for >> Blake Bullion says, "A point system for >> Blake Bullion says, "A point system for how much you vote counts." How much your how much you vote counts." How much your how much you vote counts." How much your vote counts. For example, time lived in vote counts. For example, time lived in vote counts. For example, time lived in country, time served in the military or country, time served in the military or country, time served in the military or first responder. If you pay taxes, if first responder. If you pay taxes, if first responder. If you pay taxes, if you do or don't rely on government you do or don't rely on government you do or don't rely on government assistance, what are your thoughts? I assistance, what are your thoughts? I assistance, what are your thoughts? I think it's actually really interesting think it's actually really interesting think it's actually really interesting and it's far too complicated and I and it's far too complicated and I and it's far too complicated and I wouldn't even attempt to get that wouldn't even attempt to get that wouldn't even attempt to get that passed. It's one of those that's passed. It's one of those that's passed. It's one of those that's actually pretty dope. Um, but actually pretty dope. Um, but actually pretty dope. Um, but now I'm just up against the limitations now I'm just up against the limitations now I'm just up against the limitations of what I believe are possible to of what I believe are possible to of what I believe are possible to actually get across the finish line. I actually get across the finish line. I actually get across the finish line. I think some of the other things here is think some of the other things here is think some of the other things here is one really horrible truth about human one really horrible truth about human one really horrible truth about human nature. It doesn't matter what's true. nature. It doesn't matter what's true. nature. It doesn't matter what's true. It matters what you can get people to It matters what you can get people to It matters what you can get people to understand. Uh, it doesn't matter what understand. Uh, it doesn't matter what understand. Uh, it doesn't matter what you can get people to understand. It you can get people to understand. It you can get people to understand. It only matters what you can repeat. And so only matters what you can repeat. And so only matters what you can repeat. And so you need something that people can you need something that people can you need something that people can understand and that is very easy to understand and that is very easy to understand and that is very easy to repeat. And so that's why we're probably repeat. And so that's why we're probably repeat. And so that's why we're probably not in Iran because of the nukes. But not in Iran because of the nukes. But not in Iran because of the nukes. But that was the part that's easy to say that was the part that's easy to say that was the part that's easy to say over and over and over. And so while we over and over and over. And so while we over and over and over. And so while we go do whatever we're actually there to go do whatever we're actually there to go do whatever we're actually there to do, we're just going to say nukes, do, we're just going to say nukes, do, we're just going to say nukes, nukes, nukes. So we need something that nukes, nukes. So we need something that nukes, nukes. So we need something that we can repeat over and over and over. we can repeat over and over and over. we can repeat over and over and over. You can't uh be on the dole and vote. You can't uh be on the dole and vote. You can't uh be on the dole and vote. That's at least easy to understand and That's at least easy to understand and That's at least easy to understand and repeat. I feel like we can't tie it to repeat. I feel like we can't tie it to repeat. I feel like we can't tie it to taxes yet until we change the tax code. taxes yet until we change the tax code. taxes yet until we change the tax code. Because if I work a 9 to5 and I make 60 Because if I work a 9 to5 and I make 60 Because if I work a 9 to5 and I make 60 grand a year, it's not my fault I get a grand a year, it's not my fault I get a grand a year, it's not my fault I get a tax refund. Um saying where I want like tax refund. Um saying where I want like tax refund. Um saying where I want like I'm checking all the boxes. I'm doing I'm checking all the boxes. I'm doing I'm checking all the boxes. I'm doing what society is telling me to do and the what society is telling me to do and the what society is telling me to do and the fact that I get a refund should not take fact that I get a refund should not take fact that I get a refund should not take away my away my away my >> That's one of the many reasons I was >> That's one of the many reasons I was >> That's one of the many reasons I was like, "Yeah, you probably can't do tax." like, "Yeah, you probably can't do tax." like, "Yeah, you probably can't do tax." >> Agreed. >> Agreed. >> Agreed. >> Brutus Luga says, "Raise the cap on >> Brutus Luga says, "Raise the cap on >> Brutus Luga says, "Raise the cap on social security. The Social Security social security. The Social Security social security. The Social Security payroll tax is capped at an annual payroll tax is capped at an annual payroll tax is capped at an annual earned income limit of $184,500. earned income limit of $184,500. earned income limit of $184,500. This is part of the whole rich should This is part of the whole rich should This is part of the whole rich should pay their fair share that could help or pay their fair share that could help or pay their fair share that could help or even solve the SS problem. even solve the SS problem. even solve the SS problem. >> Could be absolutely one of the ways that >> Could be absolutely one of the ways that >> Could be absolutely one of the ways that we do it. If you just look at the we do it. If you just look at the we do it. If you just look at the mechanism, uh you have to make more as a mechanism, uh you have to make more as a mechanism, uh you have to make more as a government. So you have more tax dollars government. So you have more tax dollars government. So you have more tax dollars coming in, you have to pay the people coming in, you have to pay the people coming in, you have to pay the people less or you have to pay them later just less or you have to pay them later just less or you have to pay them later just mechanistically. So anything that falls mechanistically. So anything that falls mechanistically. So anything that falls into one of those camps is certainly to into one of those camps is certainly to into one of those camps is certainly to be considered. be considered. be considered. >> And lastly, Blake Bullion should be able >> And lastly, Blake Bullion should be able >> And lastly, Blake Bullion should be able to opt out and not receive SS. I think to opt out and not receive SS. I think to opt out and not receive SS. I think it should be cut off from people who are it should be cut off from people who are it should be cut off from people who are not 18 currently and retirement should not 18 currently and retirement should not 18 currently and retirement should be put on individuals responsibility. be put on individuals responsibility. be put on individuals responsibility. It'd reduce government spending and take It'd reduce government spending and take It'd reduce government spending and take money out of the government. money out of the government. money out of the government. >> I love means testing. That's like my >> I love means testing. That's like my >> I love means testing. That's like my personal fetish. So I'm all for that. Um personal fetish. So I'm all for that. Um personal fetish. So I'm all for that. Um so and then if somebody opts out like is so and then if somebody opts out like is so and then if somebody opts out like is there something that we can do um for there something that we can do um for there something that we can do um for them to incentivize more people to opt them to incentivize more people to opt them to incentivize more people to opt out? It's an interesting question I've out? It's an interesting question I've out? It's an interesting question I've not thought about enough. Uh but it's not thought about enough. Uh but it's not thought about enough. Uh but it's certainly an interesting question. certainly an interesting question. certainly an interesting question. >> That's it for super. >> That's it for super. >> That's it for super. >> I like these ideas, man. Thank you guys, >> I like these ideas, man. Thank you guys, >> I like these ideas, man. 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