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Let's go. >> Yeah, this is a >> Yeah, this is a >> Yeah, this is a >> bangers on here. >> bangers on here. >> bangers on here. >> Yeah, this is an interesting list right >> Yeah, this is an interesting list right >> Yeah, this is an interesting list right here. here. here. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, this is uh definitely different. >> Yeah, this is uh definitely different. >> Yeah, this is uh definitely different. I'm like I'm looking at it going like I I'm like I'm looking at it going like I I'm like I'm looking at it going like I can't remember can't remember can't remember the last time I seen anybody do any of the last time I seen anybody do any of the last time I seen anybody do any of these in the gym. these in the gym. these in the gym. >> Yeah. And I'm I'm just going to you know >> Yeah. And I'm I'm just going to you know >> Yeah. And I'm I'm just going to you know a little bit of like uh I guess history a little bit of like uh I guess history a little bit of like uh I guess history or context. Lifts fall in and out of or context. Lifts fall in and out of or context. Lifts fall in and out of favor with strength training all the favor with strength training all the favor with strength training all the time. We've been doing it for so long time. We've been doing it for so long time. We've been doing it for so long that we've seen trends come and go. that we've seen trends come and go. that we've seen trends come and go. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um and it's not because people stop >> Um and it's not because people stop >> Um and it's not because people stop doing an exercise because it's not doing an exercise because it's not doing an exercise because it's not effective and then they start doing some effective and then they start doing some effective and then they start doing some because they're effective. Sometimes because they're effective. Sometimes because they're effective. Sometimes that's the case. Uh but often times it's that's the case. Uh but often times it's that's the case. Uh but often times it's because they just get popular because a because they just get popular because a because they just get popular because a particular lifter or let's say social particular lifter or let's say social particular lifter or let's say social media person uh promotes something like media person uh promotes something like media person uh promotes something like I I'll give a good example, okay? Like I I'll give a good example, okay? Like I I'll give a good example, okay? Like uh we I was training people in the late uh we I was training people in the late uh we I was training people in the late 90s, okay? I started uh as a kid and for 90s, okay? I started uh as a kid and for 90s, okay? I started uh as a kid and for a long time nobody squatted or a long time nobody squatted or a long time nobody squatted or deadlifted. Nobody did barbell squats or deadlifted. Nobody did barbell squats or deadlifted. Nobody did barbell squats or barbell d and it wasn't because they barbell d and it wasn't because they barbell d and it wasn't because they weren't effective. Everybody knows now weren't effective. Everybody knows now weren't effective. Everybody knows now they're super effective. It's just they're super effective. It's just they're super effective. It's just bodybuilders weren't really doing them bodybuilders weren't really doing them bodybuilders weren't really doing them at that time. They were using leg at that time. They were using leg at that time. They were using leg presses and other machines. And so presses and other machines. And so presses and other machines. And so people just kind of stopped doing those people just kind of stopped doing those people just kind of stopped doing those two. two. two. >> Gyms weren't set up for it as much. >> Gyms weren't set up for it as much. >> Gyms weren't set up for it as much. >> That's right. So people kind of stopped >> That's right. So people kind of stopped >> That's right. So people kind of stopped doing them. Uh so that's kind of, you doing them. Uh so that's kind of, you doing them. Uh so that's kind of, you know, one example of of how and why. And know, one example of of how and why. And know, one example of of how and why. And so I I at one point in my career as a so I I at one point in my career as a so I I at one point in my career as a trainer. I started to study uh lifters trainer. I started to study uh lifters trainer. I started to study uh lifters from like the bronze era, the silver from like the bronze era, the silver from like the bronze era, the silver era, the golden era. I started looking era, the golden era. I started looking era, the golden era. I started looking at Olympic lifters and some of the at Olympic lifters and some of the at Olympic lifters and some of the auxiliary movements that they did and auxiliary movements that they did and auxiliary movements that they did and powerlifters. Uh, and I started to find powerlifters. Uh, and I started to find powerlifters. Uh, and I started to find all these exercises I'd never heard of all these exercises I'd never heard of all these exercises I'd never heard of or done before. or done before. or done before. >> Man type lift. >> Man type lift. >> Man type lift. >> Yeah. And I would practice them and I'd >> Yeah. And I would practice them and I'd >> Yeah. And I would practice them and I'd get these crazy benefits. And part of get these crazy benefits. And part of get these crazy benefits. And part of the benefits were, well, number one, a the benefits were, well, number one, a the benefits were, well, number one, a lot of the reasons why lifters did these lot of the reasons why lifters did these lot of the reasons why lifters did these in the first place, especially bronze in the first place, especially bronze in the first place, especially bronze era or especially strength athletes, era or especially strength athletes, era or especially strength athletes, because they saw carryover. They would because they saw carryover. They would because they saw carryover. They would do them because they were exercises that do them because they were exercises that do them because they were exercises that made them strong. Um, so that's, you made them strong. Um, so that's, you made them strong. Um, so that's, you know, kind of one reason. Um, and number know, kind of one reason. Um, and number know, kind of one reason. Um, and number two, um, they got great results, uh, on two, um, they got great results, uh, on two, um, they got great results, uh, on their bodies. And so studying these their bodies. And so studying these their bodies. And so studying these um I was able to include some of these um I was able to include some of these um I was able to include some of these exercises never done and you get those exercises never done and you get those exercises never done and you get those newbie gains. Again, when you do an newbie gains. Again, when you do an newbie gains. Again, when you do an exercise you're not good at cuz you exercise you're not good at cuz you exercise you're not good at cuz you never done it, especially if you're an never done it, especially if you're an never done it, especially if you're an experienced lifter and you start to experienced lifter and you start to experienced lifter and you start to practice it and get good at it, you get practice it and get good at it, you get practice it and get good at it, you get these gains uh that happen. Uh these gains uh that happen. Uh these gains uh that happen. Uh >> yeah. And a lot of times it addresses >> yeah. And a lot of times it addresses >> yeah. And a lot of times it addresses like uh weaknesses that you don't like uh weaknesses that you don't like uh weaknesses that you don't realize um will fill a lot of gaps for realize um will fill a lot of gaps for realize um will fill a lot of gaps for conventional style training. And so like conventional style training. And so like conventional style training. And so like you start to kind of venture off and do you start to kind of venture off and do you start to kind of venture off and do a little bit more obscure type lifts, a little bit more obscure type lifts, a little bit more obscure type lifts, but um they probably fell out of favor but um they probably fell out of favor but um they probably fell out of favor because they're a little uncomfortable. because they're a little uncomfortable. because they're a little uncomfortable. You know, it's a little challenging for You know, it's a little challenging for You know, it's a little challenging for you to get in these body positions, but you to get in these body positions, but you to get in these body positions, but once you, you know, adapt to it, get once you, you know, adapt to it, get once you, you know, adapt to it, get strong at it, it's amazing what now you strong at it, it's amazing what now you strong at it, it's amazing what now you can take that into just your can take that into just your can take that into just your conventional lifts. conventional lifts. conventional lifts. >> Oh, especially these that we're >> Oh, especially these that we're >> Oh, especially these that we're highlighting right now. I mean, I' I'd highlighting right now. I mean, I' I'd highlighting right now. I mean, I' I'd argue that I don't there's going to be argue that I don't there's going to be argue that I don't there's going to be very few people that attempt any of very few people that attempt any of very few people that attempt any of these and don't and don't these and don't and don't these and don't and don't >> because they feel good at them. >> because they feel good at them. >> because they feel good at them. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, most people this they'll >> Yeah. Yeah. No, most people this they'll >> Yeah. Yeah. No, most people this they'll be and so even more reason to stick. be and so even more reason to stick. be and so even more reason to stick. Listen, if you're if you've been lifting Listen, if you're if you've been lifting Listen, if you're if you've been lifting for more than 3 to 5 years, you know, for more than 3 to 5 years, you know, for more than 3 to 5 years, you know, the the the gains come on much slower at the the the gains come on much slower at the the the gains come on much slower at that point, right? If you've been that point, right? If you've been that point, right? If you've been consistently lifting, like after 3 to 5 consistently lifting, like after 3 to 5 consistently lifting, like after 3 to 5 years, the gains are slow. And so, years, the gains are slow. And so, years, the gains are slow. And so, >> you're always looking for ways to to to >> you're always looking for ways to to to >> you're always looking for ways to to to see a a jump in strength or a change in see a a jump in strength or a change in see a a jump in strength or a change in your physique. And one of the greatest your physique. And one of the greatest your physique. And one of the greatest hacks is finding a novel stimulus like hacks is finding a novel stimulus like hacks is finding a novel stimulus like this. Uh and and a novel stimulus that this. Uh and and a novel stimulus that this. Uh and and a novel stimulus that has all kinds of benefits and carryover has all kinds of benefits and carryover has all kinds of benefits and carryover is like a win-win. It's like these these is like a win-win. It's like these these is like a win-win. It's like these these are not just like novel stimulus because are not just like novel stimulus because are not just like novel stimulus because you could do weird exercises that are you could do weird exercises that are you could do weird exercises that are novel, but these are great movements novel, but these are great movements novel, but these are great movements that pedigree. that pedigree. that pedigree. >> Yeah. And that and that carry over to >> Yeah. And that and that carry over to >> Yeah. And that and that carry over to Justin's point to other traditional Justin's point to other traditional Justin's point to other traditional lifts that like you get good at these lifts that like you get good at these lifts that like you get good at these and you'll see the bench press and the and you'll see the bench press and the and you'll see the bench press and the squat and the deadlift go up. and all squat and the deadlift go up. and all squat and the deadlift go up. and all those. those. those. >> So doing, you know, a phase of some of >> So doing, you know, a phase of some of >> So doing, you know, a phase of some of these movements uh incorporated into these movements uh incorporated into these movements uh incorporated into your routine and getting good and strong your routine and getting good and strong your routine and getting good and strong at them uh of tremendous benefits. at them uh of tremendous benefits. at them uh of tremendous benefits. >> Totally. So I'll start with the first >> Totally. So I'll start with the first >> Totally. So I'll start with the first one and this is probably the best one and this is probably the best one and this is probably the best example that I can think of of a lift example that I can think of of a lift example that I can think of of a lift that went from being the most popular, that went from being the most popular, that went from being the most popular, >> one of the most well-known lifts to >> one of the most well-known lifts to >> one of the most well-known lifts to complete obscurity, complete obscurity, complete obscurity, >> completely forgotten. And it's the bent >> completely forgotten. And it's the bent >> completely forgotten. And it's the bent press, the shoulder bent press. press, the shoulder bent press. press, the shoulder bent press. >> The most old timey lift I think there is >> The most old timey lift I think there is >> The most old timey lift I think there is of all these. of all these. of all these. >> This is how they competed. There there >> This is how they competed. There there >> This is how they competed. There there were a few oldtime lifts uh like the were a few oldtime lifts uh like the were a few oldtime lifts uh like the hip, you know, I think what do they call hip, you know, I think what do they call hip, you know, I think what do they call like the hip hip lift or whatever they like the hip hip lift or whatever they like the hip hip lift or whatever they one one one >> basically big hip bridge. >> basically big hip bridge. >> basically big hip bridge. >> Yeah, something like that. Um overhead >> Yeah, something like that. Um overhead >> Yeah, something like that. Um overhead pressing in general, but the bent press pressing in general, but the bent press pressing in general, but the bent press was like how you challenged other strong was like how you challenged other strong was like how you challenged other strong men. So you look at the bronze era, you men. So you look at the bronze era, you men. So you look at the bronze era, you had these men and women uh who they kind had these men and women uh who they kind had these men and women uh who they kind of made a living by competing. And the of made a living by competing. And the of made a living by competing. And the way they would compete is they would do way they would compete is they would do way they would compete is they would do these exhibitions and they challenge these exhibitions and they challenge these exhibitions and they challenge each other. Can you do this? Can you do each other. Can you do this? Can you do each other. Can you do this? Can you do that? They challenge the audience. that? They challenge the audience. that? They challenge the audience. >> Um and the number one lift that they >> Um and the number one lift that they >> Um and the number one lift that they would compete over was something called would compete over was something called would compete over was something called a one- arm bent press. How strong were a one- arm bent press. How strong were a one- arm bent press. How strong were these athletes? I pulled up the like one these athletes? I pulled up the like one these athletes? I pulled up the like one of the world champions of the time. This of the world champions of the time. This of the world champions of the time. This was uh this was this by the way is still was uh this was this by the way is still was uh this was this by the way is still standing 120 years later. So this was a standing 120 years later. So this was a standing 120 years later. So this was a long time ago. Arthur Saxon. long time ago. Arthur Saxon. long time ago. Arthur Saxon. >> He was uh I think he was from Germany. >> He was uh I think he was from Germany. >> He was uh I think he was from Germany. >> He was still standing as the Really? >> He was still standing as the Really? >> He was still standing as the Really? >> Yeah. Yeah. So trip off this. By the >> Yeah. Yeah. So trip off this. By the >> Yeah. Yeah. So trip off this. By the way, this is a one arm essentially way, this is a one arm essentially way, this is a one arm essentially shoulder press, but this is a technique. shoulder press, but this is a technique. shoulder press, but this is a technique. You can look this up. We'll post this in You can look this up. We'll post this in You can look this up. We'll post this in an example of it if you're watching this an example of it if you're watching this an example of it if you're watching this on YouTube. But you're lifting on YouTube. But you're lifting on YouTube. But you're lifting something. you're you're bent sideways something. you're you're bent sideways something. you're you're bent sideways with your arm and you're using leverage with your arm and you're using leverage with your arm and you're using leverage to get the weight up and then you stand to get the weight up and then you stand to get the weight up and then you stand up straight with it. So, you're holding up straight with it. So, you're holding up straight with it. So, you're holding this really heavy weight straight up this really heavy weight straight up this really heavy weight straight up above your head uh with one arm. Arthur above your head uh with one arm. Arthur above your head uh with one arm. Arthur Saxon, very muscular, by the way. This Saxon, very muscular, by the way. This Saxon, very muscular, by the way. This is before uh supplements. First, is before uh supplements. First, is before uh supplements. First, definitely no steroids. They didn't definitely no steroids. They didn't definitely no steroids. They didn't didn't exist back then, but this was didn't exist back then, but this was didn't exist back then, but this was before supplements. Okay. This guy before supplements. Okay. This guy before supplements. Okay. This guy weighed about 200 210 lbs. He had the weighed about 200 210 lbs. He had the weighed about 200 210 lbs. He had the official world record of 370 lbs. official world record of 370 lbs. official world record of 370 lbs. >> That's crazy, dude. >> That's crazy, dude. >> That's crazy, dude. >> One armang. 370 pounds above his head. >> One armang. 370 pounds above his head. >> One armang. 370 pounds above his head. Now he was 510. Now he was 510. Now he was 510. >> Now the origin of this was it because >> Now the origin of this was it because >> Now the origin of this was it because this was the the best technical way to this was the the best technical way to this was the the best technical way to get the most weight single arm above get the most weight single arm above get the most weight single arm above your head. your head. your head. >> They figured out the best technique, >> They figured out the best technique, >> They figured out the best technique, which by the way, if you've never done which by the way, if you've never done which by the way, if you've never done this, you're going to suck at it. this, you're going to suck at it. this, you're going to suck at it. >> But when you practice and get good at >> But when you practice and get good at >> But when you practice and get good at it, uh you're able to lift a tremendous it, uh you're able to lift a tremendous it, uh you're able to lift a tremendous amount of weight. amount of weight. amount of weight. >> Yeah. You're able to really connect to >> Yeah. You're able to really connect to >> Yeah. You're able to really connect to other muscles and not have it really other muscles and not have it really other muscles and not have it really stop there at the shoulder joint. And so stop there at the shoulder joint. And so stop there at the shoulder joint. And so the it it really requires a lot of like the it it really requires a lot of like the it it really requires a lot of like focused connectivity uh and recruitment focused connectivity uh and recruitment focused connectivity uh and recruitment on a level that like you know obviously on a level that like you know obviously on a level that like you know obviously like if you master it you can do crazy like if you master it you can do crazy like if you master it you can do crazy amount of weight. amount of weight. amount of weight. >> So yeah you're going to have strong >> So yeah you're going to have strong >> So yeah you're going to have strong shoulders from doing this but you know shoulders from doing this but you know shoulders from doing this but you know what you're really going to bulletproof what you're really going to bulletproof what you're really going to bulletproof is your your low back. is your your low back. is your your low back. >> Oh yeah your core yours and are going to >> Oh yeah your core yours and are going to >> Oh yeah your core yours and are going to get get get >> your hips. >> your hips. >> your hips. >> I mean this is going to make you have to >> I mean this is going to make you have to >> I mean this is going to make you have to use [laughter] use [laughter] use [laughter] >> that's why this is so good. And so it's >> that's why this is so good. And so it's >> that's why this is so good. And so it's just like uh and I'm sure it fell out of just like uh and I'm sure it fell out of just like uh and I'm sure it fell out of favor because like anything else, I'm favor because like anything else, I'm favor because like anything else, I'm sure people did it in in didn't do it sure people did it in in didn't do it sure people did it in in didn't do it right, got hurt, all the things like right, got hurt, all the things like right, got hurt, all the things like that. Uh but you start with a really that. Uh but you start with a really that. Uh but you start with a really lightweight. Now, this isn't Maps uh uh lightweight. Now, this isn't Maps uh uh lightweight. Now, this isn't Maps uh uh drink drink drink >> old time. This is a lift in old time >> old time. This is a lift in old time >> old time. 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That when we wrote Map Strong, right? That was the one we Okay. Yes. And the was the one we Okay. Yes. And the was the one we Okay. Yes. And the circuit press, it looks like a one- arm circuit press, it looks like a one- arm circuit press, it looks like a one- arm dumbbell uh push press essentially. dumbbell uh push press essentially. dumbbell uh push press essentially. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Um and this is a lift that strong men >> Um and this is a lift that strong men >> Um and this is a lift that strong men will do in competition. So you could see will do in competition. So you could see will do in competition. So you could see in strongman competitions, they'll do in strongman competitions, they'll do in strongman competitions, they'll do something called a circus press. And something called a circus press. And something called a circus press. And often times they're pressing uh kind of often times they're pressing uh kind of often times they're pressing uh kind of like a circus looking dumbbell. Yeah. like a circus looking dumbbell. Yeah. like a circus looking dumbbell. Yeah. >> Uh you know, like the Thomas inch >> Uh you know, like the Thomas inch >> Uh you know, like the Thomas inch dumbbell. dumbbell. dumbbell. >> They're pretty much cleaning it to the >> They're pretty much cleaning it to the >> They're pretty much cleaning it to the shoulder and then they're push pressing shoulder and then they're push pressing shoulder and then they're push pressing it out of that. it out of that. it out of that. >> Now I the reason why, and you you can >> Now I the reason why, and you you can >> Now I the reason why, and you you can speak to this, Adam, the reason why I speak to this, Adam, the reason why I speak to this, Adam, the reason why I like this is it built my it builds my like this is it built my it builds my like this is it built my it builds my shoulders. Oh, dude. I mean, it So, if shoulders. Oh, dude. I mean, it So, if shoulders. Oh, dude. I mean, it So, if you don't know how to cuz bench press uh you don't know how to cuz bench press uh you don't know how to cuz bench press uh the or the bent press is a more the or the bent press is a more the or the bent press is a more technical lift. technical lift. technical lift. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And so, and and admittedly, I'm not >> And so, and and admittedly, I'm not >> And so, and and admittedly, I'm not great at that. Like, it's I have to great at that. Like, it's I have to great at that. Like, it's I have to still do really light weight when I do still do really light weight when I do still do really light weight when I do it because my technique isn't there, but it because my technique isn't there, but it because my technique isn't there, but I can circus press a good amount of I can circus press a good amount of I can circus press a good amount of weight because it's a little bit easier weight because it's a little bit easier weight because it's a little bit easier technique, technique, technique, >> way less technical. And so therefore, >> way less technical. And so therefore, >> way less technical. And so therefore, being the aesthetic guy who likes to see being the aesthetic guy who likes to see being the aesthetic guy who likes to see my shoulders develop like that, I saw my shoulders develop like that, I saw my shoulders develop like that, I saw lots of benefit from the circus press lots of benefit from the circus press lots of benefit from the circus press because I could quickly get the because I could quickly get the because I could quickly get the technique down technique down technique down >> and I could start to really load it >> and I could start to really load it >> and I could start to really load it pretty quick. And then now I'm able to pretty quick. And then now I'm able to pretty quick. And then now I'm able to single arm press [snorts] a dumbbell single arm press [snorts] a dumbbell single arm press [snorts] a dumbbell over my head more than I could in any over my head more than I could in any over my head more than I could in any sort of strict way. sort of strict way. sort of strict way. >> You get more of that fast twitch uh >> You get more of that fast twitch uh >> You get more of that fast twitch uh stimulus, which a lot of people neglect. stimulus, which a lot of people neglect. stimulus, which a lot of people neglect. >> I thought I thought Didn't I see you do >> I thought I thought Didn't I see you do >> I thought I thought Didn't I see you do this with 120 lb dumbbell? this with 120 lb dumbbell? this with 120 lb dumbbell? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's got such a moose. >> Yeah. It's got such a moose. >> Yeah. It's got such a moose. >> Yeah. I ever got that heavy. [laughter] >> Yeah. I ever got that heavy. [laughter] >> Yeah. I ever got that heavy. [laughter] >> I love these kind of lifts. So, yeah, >> I love these kind of lifts. So, yeah, >> I love these kind of lifts. So, yeah, it's it's right up my alley. it's it's right up my alley. it's it's right up my alley. >> Next up, we have Zman curls. So, Zman >> Next up, we have Zman curls. So, Zman >> Next up, we have Zman curls. So, Zman curls are curls with where you're curls are curls with where you're curls are curls with where you're supernating on the way up, pronating on supernating on the way up, pronating on supernating on the way up, pronating on the way down. This is phenomenal uh for the way down. This is phenomenal uh for the way down. This is phenomenal uh for the brachioreialis, the brachiialis, and the brachioreialis, the brachiialis, and the brachioreialis, the brachiialis, and just creating strong wrists and just creating strong wrists and just creating strong wrists and forearms. And it fell out of favor forearms. And it fell out of favor forearms. And it fell out of favor because it's not bicep centric like a because it's not bicep centric like a because it's not bicep centric like a traditional curl. So, anytime someone traditional curl. So, anytime someone traditional curl. So, anytime someone does curls, they're like, I'm just does curls, they're like, I'm just does curls, they're like, I'm just building my biceps. and their their building my biceps. and their their building my biceps. and their their their ability to pronate supenate which their ability to pronate supenate which their ability to pronate supenate which requires the biceps and some other requires the biceps and some other requires the biceps and some other muscles and the strength of the wrist muscles and the strength of the wrist muscles and the strength of the wrist especially in the strength of the wrist especially in the strength of the wrist especially in the strength of the wrist in a pronated position is super in a pronated position is super in a pronated position is super neglected. Uh a lot of people who are neglected. Uh a lot of people who are neglected. Uh a lot of people who are really strong who lift weights you put really strong who lift weights you put really strong who lift weights you put their wrist in a pronated position and their wrist in a pronated position and their wrist in a pronated position and suddenly they're flimsy. Um and this suddenly they're flimsy. Um and this suddenly they're flimsy. Um and this will strengthen the heck uh out of your will strengthen the heck uh out of your will strengthen the heck uh out of your arms. And lifters did this back in the arms. And lifters did this back in the arms. And lifters did this back in the day because well back in the day they day because well back in the day they day because well back in the day they needed strong wrists to do all the other needed strong wrists to do all the other needed strong wrists to do all the other lifts they were going to do. So I love lifts they were going to do. So I love lifts they were going to do. So I love this exercise. How how often have you this exercise. How how often have you this exercise. How how often have you seen this movement too uh benefit seen this movement too uh benefit seen this movement too uh benefit somebody who has issues with like uh somebody who has issues with like uh somebody who has issues with like uh tennis elbow, golfer's elbow? Like you tennis elbow, golfer's elbow? Like you tennis elbow, golfer's elbow? Like you >> cuz a lot of times that's due to >> cuz a lot of times that's due to >> cuz a lot of times that's due to weakness in and in and instability in weakness in and in and instability in weakness in and in and instability in the wrist and if you don't ever train the wrist and if you don't ever train the wrist and if you don't ever train like everybody trains in the same plane like everybody trains in the same plane like everybody trains in the same plane when they do curls when they do curls when they do curls >> and articulating the wrist pronating and >> and articulating the wrist pronating and >> and articulating the wrist pronating and supernating like that uh through the supernating like that uh through the supernating like that uh through the movement um it tends to eliminate that movement um it tends to eliminate that movement um it tends to eliminate that or keep people from more stability. or keep people from more stability. or keep people from more stability. Yeah. Yes. Keeps them from dealing with Yeah. Yes. Keeps them from dealing with Yeah. Yes. Keeps them from dealing with that issue. So I think it's a great that issue. So I think it's a great that issue. So I think it's a great movement for that. movement for that. movement for that. >> Totally. Uh then we have weighted >> Totally. Uh then we have weighted >> Totally. Uh then we have weighted windmills windmills windmills >> also. >> also. >> also. >> Now I never attempted a windmill until >> Now I never attempted a windmill until >> Now I never attempted a windmill until what program was it that was it? Prime. what program was it that was it? Prime. what program was it that was it? Prime. >> Yeah. Prime we did the test and Yeah. >> Yeah. Prime we did the test and Yeah. >> Yeah. Prime we did the test and Yeah. And we started to use that as like a And we started to use that as like a And we started to use that as like a gauge. gauge. gauge. >> Yep. It was Prime. I'd never done a >> Yep. It was Prime. I'd never done a >> Yep. It was Prime. I'd never done a windmill before windmill before windmill before >> and I will never forget this. So when >> and I will never forget this. So when >> and I will never forget this. So when did we create Prime? Was that eight did we create Prime? Was that eight did we create Prime? Was that eight years ago? Well, we did we did we I years ago? Well, we did we did we I years ago? Well, we did we did we I think we did it even earlier on Mind think we did it even earlier on Mind think we did it even earlier on Mind Pump TV. Pump TV. Pump TV. >> There's a video of us Justin teaching >> There's a video of us Justin teaching >> There's a video of us Justin teaching you and I on Mind Pump TV. you and I on Mind Pump TV. you and I on Mind Pump TV. >> I couldn't get in a position without >> I couldn't get in a position without >> I couldn't get in a position without weight. weight. weight. >> And I remember that lit a fire under you >> And I remember that lit a fire under you >> And I remember that lit a fire under you to go and get good at cuz you're like I to go and get good at cuz you're like I to go and get good at cuz you're like I couldn't even you couldn't couldn't even you couldn't couldn't even you couldn't >> I couldn't even get in position. >> I couldn't even get in position. >> I couldn't even get in position. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I'm like what's wrong with me? >> I'm like what's wrong with me? >> I'm like what's wrong with me? >> I can't do it. There it is right there. >> I can't do it. There it is right there. >> I can't do it. There it is right there. >> Yeah. And so it's really really good for >> Yeah. And so it's really really good for >> Yeah. And so it's really really good for uh it's actually great for shoulder uh it's actually great for shoulder uh it's actually great for shoulder studio studio studio right there. Wow. right there. Wow. right there. Wow. >> It's really good for shoulder stability, >> It's really good for shoulder stability, >> It's really good for shoulder stability, but what it really does is it but what it really does is it but what it really does is it bulletproofs your back, especially if bulletproofs your back, especially if bulletproofs your back, especially if you like to deadlift. And this is why I you like to deadlift. And this is why I you like to deadlift. And this is why I liked it liked it liked it >> because uh I have a strong deadlift. >> because uh I have a strong deadlift. >> because uh I have a strong deadlift. It's my best lift. It's my best lift. It's my best lift. >> The lateral stability part uh is where I >> The lateral stability part uh is where I >> The lateral stability part uh is where I would have the holes would have the holes would have the holes >> strength. >> strength. >> strength. >> Oh man. Like I it's like when I deadlift >> Oh man. Like I it's like when I deadlift >> Oh man. Like I it's like when I deadlift heavy sometimes I'll get a little bit of heavy sometimes I'll get a little bit of heavy sometimes I'll get a little bit of SI joint pain. This is like in the lower SI joint pain. This is like in the lower SI joint pain. This is like in the lower kind of sacrum area on one side. kind of sacrum area on one side. kind of sacrum area on one side. >> Adding the windmills got rid of it. >> Adding the windmills got rid of it. >> Adding the windmills got rid of it. Wouldn't you guys agree too this would Wouldn't you guys agree too this would Wouldn't you guys agree too this would be a good regression or a place to start be a good regression or a place to start be a good regression or a place to start somebody who wants to get good at the somebody who wants to get good at the somebody who wants to get good at the bent press bent press bent press >> in in old time and maps old time you >> in in old time and maps old time you >> in in old time and maps old time you start with this. start with this. start with this. >> Yeah, you need to get you want to get >> Yeah, you need to get you want to get >> Yeah, you need to get you want to get good at a a traditional windmill that's good at a a traditional windmill that's good at a a traditional windmill that's a a slower, more controlled movement, a a slower, more controlled movement, a a slower, more controlled movement, lighter weight and really figuring out lighter weight and really figuring out lighter weight and really figuring out how to do that how to do that how to do that >> and load the body like that. >> and load the body like that. >> and load the body like that. >> Well, just yeah, even getting in that >> Well, just yeah, even getting in that >> Well, just yeah, even getting in that position, holding, sustaining it and and position, holding, sustaining it and and position, holding, sustaining it and and adding now tension. Yes. uh a lot of adding now tension. Yes. uh a lot of adding now tension. Yes. uh a lot of people like have you know weeks of of people like have you know weeks of of people like have you know weeks of of work with that just to kind of get work with that just to kind of get work with that just to kind of get comfortable, comfortable, comfortable, >> right? So if you don't have our program >> right? So if you don't have our program >> right? So if you don't have our program and you're not following because we we and you're not following because we we and you're not following because we we program it that way, right? So if you program it that way, right? So if you program it that way, right? So if you don't have it then and you're you're don't have it then and you're you're don't have it then and you're you're taking the list that we're giving right taking the list that we're giving right taking the list that we're giving right now before you jump to trying to get now before you jump to trying to get now before you jump to trying to get good at ben press first get good at good at ben press first get good at good at ben press first get good at weighted windmill. If you get good at weighted windmill. If you get good at weighted windmill. If you get good at weighted windmills, then you can weighted windmills, then you can weighted windmills, then you can progress to a bent press. Bent press is progress to a bent press. Bent press is progress to a bent press. Bent press is definitely a progression to that definitely a progression to that definitely a progression to that movement%. Uh then we have heavy movement%. Uh then we have heavy movement%. Uh then we have heavy overhead carries. overhead carries. overhead carries. >> Now uh this got this got my interest a >> Now uh this got this got my interest a >> Now uh this got this got my interest a while ago and I'll tell you why in just while ago and I'll tell you why in just while ago and I'll tell you why in just a second, but I didn't really implement a second, but I didn't really implement a second, but I didn't really implement them until Justin encouraged uh us to them until Justin encouraged uh us to them until Justin encouraged uh us to try these. So I always liked overhead try these. So I always liked overhead try these. So I always liked overhead pressing. I thought it would, you know, pressing. I thought it would, you know, pressing. I thought it would, you know, it's a cool exercise to get strong at it's a cool exercise to get strong at it's a cool exercise to get strong at and it is. And I didn't really piece and it is. And I didn't really piece and it is. And I didn't really piece together that uh I needed strength at together that uh I needed strength at together that uh I needed strength at the top where I was stable uh where I the top where I was stable uh where I the top where I was stable uh where I could hold something. That's what this could hold something. That's what this could hold something. That's what this does exactly. So once I implemented I does exactly. So once I implemented I does exactly. So once I implemented I saw these huge strength gains but the saw these huge strength gains but the saw these huge strength gains but the first time that my interest was peaked first time that my interest was peaked first time that my interest was peaked was watching Olympic lifters do overhead was watching Olympic lifters do overhead was watching Olympic lifters do overhead squats. So Olympic lifters will do you squats. So Olympic lifters will do you squats. So Olympic lifters will do you know what the Olympic lifts are. So we know what the Olympic lifts are. So we know what the Olympic lifts are. So we know the you know the the cleaning jerk know the you know the the cleaning jerk know the you know the the cleaning jerk the snatch we know all the all the the snatch we know all the all the the snatch we know all the all the Olympic lifts but they also break those Olympic lifts but they also break those Olympic lifts but they also break those lifts down in their workouts. And one lifts down in their workouts. And one lifts down in their workouts. And one way they do this is they do something way they do this is they do something way they do this is they do something called an overhead squat. So they'll called an overhead squat. So they'll called an overhead squat. So they'll have a barbell set up on blocks. They'll have a barbell set up on blocks. They'll have a barbell set up on blocks. They'll get underneath it and squat it up. And get underneath it and squat it up. And get underneath it and squat it up. And the amount of weight they can hold the amount of weight they can hold the amount of weight they can hold overhead, overhead, overhead, >> it's unreal. Yeah. >> it's unreal. Yeah. >> it's unreal. Yeah. >> Is unreal. Yeah. It's unreal. It's more >> Is unreal. Yeah. It's unreal. It's more >> Is unreal. Yeah. It's unreal. It's more weight than I could squat on my back. weight than I could squat on my back. weight than I could squat on my back. Yeah. And that just You want to talk Yeah. And that just You want to talk Yeah. And that just You want to talk about shoulder about shoulder about shoulder >> defies physics almost. It's it's it's >> defies physics almost. It's it's it's >> defies physics almost. It's it's it's quite trippy. I know. I I geek out on quite trippy. I know. I I geek out on quite trippy. I know. I I geek out on that stuff, too. Especially when you that stuff, too. Especially when you that stuff, too. Especially when you really know how to pack the shoulders really know how to pack the shoulders really know how to pack the shoulders properly and really utilize, you know, properly and really utilize, you know, properly and really utilize, you know, your back and all the surrounding your back and all the surrounding your back and all the surrounding muscles to support it. Uh so you train muscles to support it. Uh so you train muscles to support it. Uh so you train that and and you train it with locom that and and you train it with locom that and and you train it with locom motion and it actually like adds those motion and it actually like adds those motion and it actually like adds those variables those lateral stability the variables those lateral stability the variables those lateral stability the rotational stability you have to account rotational stability you have to account rotational stability you have to account for. So this has always been one of for. So this has always been one of for. So this has always been one of those that I I always go back to this those that I I always go back to this those that I I always go back to this and then even then you know adding in a and then even then you know adding in a and then even then you know adding in a longer lever to that. So like in in old longer lever to that. So like in in old longer lever to that. So like in in old time strength we have you know the just time strength we have you know the just time strength we have you know the just the barbell itself it's 45 lbs but just the barbell itself it's 45 lbs but just the barbell itself it's 45 lbs but just holding that with that long lever puts holding that with that long lever puts holding that with that long lever puts an added level of stress on the wrist an added level of stress on the wrist an added level of stress on the wrist stability and everything else. So, it's stability and everything else. So, it's stability and everything else. So, it's such a great movement. such a great movement. such a great movement. >> Yeah. Adding these to my uh uh regimen >> Yeah. Adding these to my uh uh regimen >> Yeah. Adding these to my uh uh regimen got my overhead press go up 10 lbs, got my overhead press go up 10 lbs, got my overhead press go up 10 lbs, which is a that's a lift that I have which is a that's a lift that I have which is a that's a lift that I have difficulty um going up in. And it's just difficulty um going up in. And it's just difficulty um going up in. And it's just again what Justin said, walking with the again what Justin said, walking with the again what Justin said, walking with the weight makes it move, which requires weight makes it move, which requires weight makes it move, which requires more stability. So, you just lock your more stability. So, you just lock your more stability. So, you just lock your arm out, hold it up above your head, arm out, hold it up above your head, arm out, hold it up above your head, walk uh real steady, switch arms. You walk uh real steady, switch arms. You walk uh real steady, switch arms. You could do a dumbbell um or you could do could do a dumbbell um or you could do could do a dumbbell um or you could do it with a barbell. it with a barbell. it with a barbell. >> Doing these changed the way I even >> Doing these changed the way I even >> Doing these changed the way I even shoulder press and stuff. And what I shoulder press and stuff. And what I shoulder press and stuff. And what I mean by that is I saw so much value in mean by that is I saw so much value in mean by that is I saw so much value in the inrange as stability component of a the inrange as stability component of a the inrange as stability component of a press press press >> because traditionally coming from a kind >> because traditionally coming from a kind >> because traditionally coming from a kind of bodybuilder mentality at the top. of bodybuilder mentality at the top. of bodybuilder mentality at the top. >> You never stay at the top. You you're >> You never stay at the top. You you're >> You never stay at the top. You you're always, you know, the the thought always, you know, the the thought always, you know, the the thought process, oh, keeping tension on the process, oh, keeping tension on the process, oh, keeping tension on the muscle and so you right. And so you muscle and so you right. And so you muscle and so you right. And so you would always be just a little shy of would always be just a little shy of would always be just a little shy of locking out and you would come right locking out and you would come right locking out and you would come right back down in every almost every movement back down in every almost every movement back down in every almost every movement that you do, especially something like a that you do, especially something like a that you do, especially something like a a shoulder press. And man, I one of the a shoulder press. And man, I one of the a shoulder press. And man, I one of the things that blew my shoulders up was things that blew my shoulders up was things that blew my shoulders up was being able to stabilize really heavy being able to stabilize really heavy being able to stabilize really heavy weight over my head. And so even today weight over my head. And so even today weight over my head. And so even today now when I do even even if I'm seated now when I do even even if I'm seated now when I do even even if I'm seated and I'm being lazy and I do a seated and I'm being lazy and I do a seated and I'm being lazy and I do a seated press, I will always stabilize and hold press, I will always stabilize and hold press, I will always stabilize and hold the top now just because I think there's the top now just because I think there's the top now just because I think there's just you get a better pump too. just you get a better pump too. just you get a better pump too. >> Yes, you get a better pump from it. I've >> Yes, you get a better pump from it. I've >> Yes, you get a better pump from it. I've seen better development from it. It's seen better development from it. It's seen better development from it. It's better for the shoulders. And so I think better for the shoulders. And so I think better for the shoulders. And so I think there's tremendous value and and I think there's tremendous value and and I think there's tremendous value and and I think a great place to start is just overhead a great place to start is just overhead a great place to start is just overhead carries. Getting good at stabilizing the carries. Getting good at stabilizing the carries. Getting good at stabilizing the weight, adding the walking component in weight, adding the walking component in weight, adding the walking component in there. You learn to kind of do that and there. You learn to kind of do that and there. You learn to kind of do that and then you can start to carry that over then you can start to carry that over then you can start to carry that over into your push presses, your circus into your push presses, your circus into your push presses, your circus presses, all these different movements presses, all these different movements presses, all these different movements where you'll you'll stabilize that where you'll you'll stabilize that where you'll you'll stabilize that weight at the top and I think you get weight at the top and I think you get weight at the top and I think you get lots of benefit. lots of benefit. lots of benefit. >> Totally. Next is a lift I love and I >> Totally. Next is a lift I love and I >> Totally. Next is a lift I love and I implement this. I haven't done it in a implement this. I haven't done it in a implement this. I haven't done it in a routine in a long time, but there was a routine in a long time, but there was a routine in a long time, but there was a period of time. You were doing that for period of time. You were doing that for period of time. You were doing that for a for a hot minute when we when we had a for a hot minute when we when we had a for a hot minute when we when we had the green turf out here. You were on a the green turf out here. You were on a the green turf out here. You were on a kick of how much you could do that with. kick of how much you could do that with. kick of how much you could do that with. >> Well, it just uh it got it got my >> Well, it just uh it got it got my >> Well, it just uh it got it got my deadlift uh really strong. It's it deadlift uh really strong. It's it deadlift uh really strong. It's it stabil it created crazy stability in my stabil it created crazy stability in my stabil it created crazy stability in my spine. It made my hands really strong. spine. It made my hands really strong. spine. It made my hands really strong. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> And just overall, >> And just overall, >> And just overall, there's some lifts that I can do. I know there's some lifts that I can do. I know there's some lifts that I can do. I know you guys know what I'm talking about. you guys know what I'm talking about. you guys know what I'm talking about. There's some lifts that you can do that There's some lifts that you can do that There's some lifts that you can do that make you feel big and then there's lifts make you feel big and then there's lifts make you feel big and then there's lifts you can do that make you feel strong. you can do that make you feel strong. you can do that make you feel strong. >> Yeah. And this one makes you I don't >> Yeah. And this one makes you I don't >> Yeah. And this one makes you I don't mean it making me feel strong because mean it making me feel strong because mean it making me feel strong because I'm lifting a lot of weight. I mean in I'm lifting a lot of weight. I mean in I'm lifting a lot of weight. I mean in my everyday life. Yeah. Like in my my everyday life. Yeah. Like in my my everyday life. Yeah. Like in my everyday life just moving around when I everyday life just moving around when I everyday life just moving around when I was getting good at this. I just felt was getting good at this. I just felt was getting good at this. I just felt really strong like I could move things really strong like I could move things really strong like I could move things and lift things and do things. I just and lift things and do things. I just and lift things and do things. I just felt super strong because I was strong felt super strong because I was strong felt super strong because I was strong at strong in movement. Yeah. I think at strong in movement. Yeah. I think at strong in movement. Yeah. I think there's there's something to that. I there's there's something to that. I there's there's something to that. I think there's think there's think there's >> it's great to to really focus, you know, >> it's great to to really focus, you know, >> it's great to to really focus, you know, and highlight like musculature and like and highlight like musculature and like and highlight like musculature and like I'm trying to build this up in this I'm trying to build this up in this I'm trying to build this up in this stationary position, but you know, now stationary position, but you know, now stationary position, but you know, now you add that in movement. And to your you add that in movement. And to your you add that in movement. And to your point, I I feel the same way. Like I point, I I feel the same way. Like I point, I I feel the same way. Like I feel like when I focus more on like uh feel like when I focus more on like uh feel like when I focus more on like uh moving type exercises with heavy loads, moving type exercises with heavy loads, moving type exercises with heavy loads, uh the regular life is so much easier uh the regular life is so much easier uh the regular life is so much easier [laughter] everything you're doing. [laughter] everything you're doing. [laughter] everything you're doing. Well, I'm trying to think of something Well, I'm trying to think of something Well, I'm trying to think of something that challenges it like the the central that challenges it like the the central that challenges it like the the central nervous system being lit up with that nervous system being lit up with that nervous system being lit up with that much intensity from your fingertips all much intensity from your fingertips all much intensity from your fingertips all the way down to your toes. the way down to your toes. the way down to your toes. >> Uh like that. I don't think there even >> Uh like that. I don't think there even >> Uh like that. I don't think there even so a deadlift, a real heavy deadlift so a deadlift, a real heavy deadlift so a deadlift, a real heavy deadlift would be close, but there's no movement. would be close, but there's no movement. would be close, but there's no movement. So there's no stability component to So there's no stability component to So there's no stability component to that or not as much of a stability that or not as much of a stability that or not as much of a stability component as it is to moving cuz you component as it is to moving cuz you component as it is to moving cuz you could you could actually a lot of people could you could actually a lot of people could you could actually a lot of people can actually do uh almost deadlift or can actually do uh almost deadlift or can actually do uh almost deadlift or carry almost as much as they can deadl carry almost as much as they can deadl carry almost as much as they can deadl when you were doing that you were doing when you were doing that you were doing when you were doing that you were doing >> oh I got up to 500 lb you can >> oh I got up to 500 lb you can >> oh I got up to 500 lb you can >> actually holding 500 lb and moving uh >> actually holding 500 lb and moving uh >> actually holding 500 lb and moving uh man you get you get strong at that and man you get you get strong at that and man you get you get strong at that and like you said from your fingertips down like you said from your fingertips down like you said from your fingertips down to your feet and toes and core to your feet and toes and core to your feet and toes and core stabilizing that I mean I don't I don't stabilizing that I mean I don't I don't stabilizing that I mean I don't I don't know if there's anything that can just know if there's anything that can just know if there's anything that can just overall stabilize and strengthen the overall stabilize and strengthen the overall stabilize and strengthen the body in one one particular movement is body in one one particular movement is body in one one particular movement is that such a great movement. that such a great movement. that such a great movement. >> Yeah. And then last, this is a lift. >> Yeah. And then last, this is a lift. >> Yeah. And then last, this is a lift. It's not going to build crazy muscle, It's not going to build crazy muscle, It's not going to build crazy muscle, but I the value of this lift came to me but I the value of this lift came to me but I the value of this lift came to me as a trainer. When I would train as a trainer. When I would train as a trainer. When I would train clients, a lot of clients I had like to clients, a lot of clients I had like to clients, a lot of clients I had like to run. A lot of people like to run. run. A lot of people like to run. run. A lot of people like to run. >> And the most common issue that people >> And the most common issue that people >> And the most common issue that people will report from running are shin will report from running are shin will report from running are shin splints. splints. splints. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> And they'll do all kinds of things uh to >> And they'll do all kinds of things uh to >> And they'll do all kinds of things uh to fix their shin shin splints. things like fix their shin shin splints. things like fix their shin shin splints. things like taping their shins, you know, massaging taping their shins, you know, massaging taping their shins, you know, massaging my calves, taking time off, changing my my calves, taking time off, changing my my calves, taking time off, changing my shoes. And I'll never forget, and this shoes. And I'll never forget, and this shoes. And I'll never forget, and this was just a stupid idea that I had. I was just a stupid idea that I had. I was just a stupid idea that I had. I just guessed. I'm like, "Huh, it's on just guessed. I'm like, "Huh, it's on just guessed. I'm like, "Huh, it's on the shin. Inflammation there, the the shin. Inflammation there, the the shin. Inflammation there, the muscle, the tibialis there. What if we muscle, the tibialis there. What if we muscle, the tibialis there. What if we strengthened the tibialis?" So, we did strengthened the tibialis?" So, we did strengthened the tibialis?" So, we did tibialis raises. tibialis raises. tibialis raises. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And it fixed everybody's shins >> And it fixed everybody's shins >> And it fixed everybody's shins instantly. instantly. instantly. >> This is the biggest hack I've had with >> This is the biggest hack I've had with >> This is the biggest hack I've had with athletes. It's the dumbest thing. athletes. It's the dumbest thing. athletes. It's the dumbest thing. >> I'm not even joking. It's mandatory. And >> I'm not even joking. It's mandatory. And >> I'm not even joking. It's mandatory. And I don't know why we never learned that. I don't know why we never learned that. I don't know why we never learned that. You know, this is another one of those You know, this is another one of those You know, this is another one of those things I point back and I'm like angry things I point back and I'm like angry things I point back and I'm like angry about it. about it. about it. >> I could have used this Yeah. a lot uh in >> I could have used this Yeah. a lot uh in >> I could have used this Yeah. a lot uh in my career and especially if you get into my career and especially if you get into my career and especially if you get into plyometrics, if you get into anything plyometrics, if you get into anything plyometrics, if you get into anything where you're explosively moving, like where you're explosively moving, like where you're explosively moving, like this is like critical uh for you to this is like critical uh for you to this is like critical uh for you to really kind of build up that strength really kind of build up that strength really kind of build up that strength support system. support system. support system. >> It's funny because it's like you >> It's funny because it's like you >> It's funny because it's like you comparing to any anywhere else in the comparing to any anywhere else in the comparing to any anywhere else in the body, uh to develop the quads and not body, uh to develop the quads and not body, uh to develop the quads and not touch the hamstrings would be touch the hamstrings would be touch the hamstrings would be ridiculous, right? Yeah. Develop the ridiculous, right? Yeah. Develop the ridiculous, right? Yeah. Develop the biceps and never touch the triceps would biceps and never touch the triceps would biceps and never touch the triceps would be ridiculous. It's like it's the be ridiculous. It's like it's the be ridiculous. It's like it's the opposing muscle of a muscle that you use opposing muscle of a muscle that you use opposing muscle of a muscle that you use like crazy in all these athletic like crazy in all these athletic like crazy in all these athletic movements that you do and to completely movements that you do and to completely movements that you do and to completely ignore it is is silly and it's crazy. ignore it is is silly and it's crazy. ignore it is is silly and it's crazy. So, it does seem like such a tedious So, it does seem like such a tedious So, it does seem like such a tedious movement. But boy, if you play if you movement. But boy, if you play if you movement. But boy, if you play if you play sport recreationally, you like to play sport recreationally, you like to play sport recreationally, you like to go on runs um and if you like you want go on runs um and if you like you want go on runs um and if you like you want develop calves, uh that was the thing develop calves, uh that was the thing develop calves, uh that was the thing that for me for me I I started to that for me for me I I started to that for me for me I I started to incorporate this incorporate this incorporate this >> makes your calves look bigger. >> makes your calves look bigger. >> makes your calves look bigger. >> Yes. From a development perspective, >> Yes. From a development perspective, >> Yes. From a development perspective, that's kind of how I got into it. I that's kind of how I got into it. I that's kind of how I got into it. I wasn't at that time I wasn't doing any wasn't at that time I wasn't doing any wasn't at that time I wasn't doing any sport. Uh but I was doing everything I sport. Uh but I was doing everything I sport. Uh but I was doing everything I could to give the illusion of having could to give the illusion of having could to give the illusion of having bigger calves on stage and I was like bigger calves on stage and I was like bigger calves on stage and I was like why don't I develop the front? You know why don't I develop the front? You know why don't I develop the front? You know what I'm saying? I put all this effort what I'm saying? I put all this effort what I'm saying? I put all this effort in the back all the time. What if I in the back all the time. What if I in the back all the time. What if I developed the front? Oh, what do you developed the front? Oh, what do you developed the front? Oh, what do you know? It makes my made my calves look know? It makes my made my calves look know? It makes my made my calves look way better. way better. way better. >> But it's it's literally the it's I just >> But it's it's literally the it's I just >> But it's it's literally the it's I just echo with what Justin said. It's the echo with what Justin said. It's the echo with what Justin said. It's the dumbest, simplest, most straightforward dumbest, simplest, most straightforward dumbest, simplest, most straightforward solution to shin splints. And it's so solution to shin splints. And it's so solution to shin splints. And it's so dumb because it's so simple. And before dumb because it's so simple. And before dumb because it's so simple. And before I figured this out, we did all kinds of I figured this out, we did all kinds of I figured this out, we did all kinds of >> we were icing our legs. >> we were icing our legs. >> we were icing our legs. >> Oh god. Like all the time [laughter] >> Oh god. Like all the time [laughter] >> Oh god. Like all the time [laughter] because that's just what we had to do. because that's just what we had to do. because that's just what we had to do. >> But if you look, it's the tibia and the >> But if you look, it's the tibia and the >> But if you look, it's the tibia and the fibula and the the tibia sits on top of fibula and the the tibia sits on top of fibula and the the tibia sits on top of it. And shin splints are essentially the it. And shin splints are essentially the it. And shin splints are essentially the inflammation in between those two bones. inflammation in between those two bones. inflammation in between those two bones. >> And it's from a weakness in the tibia. >> And it's from a weakness in the tibia. >> And it's from a weakness in the tibia. That's it. Strengthen tibia. Boom. Shin That's it. Strengthen tibia. Boom. Shin That's it. Strengthen tibia. Boom. Shin splints are gone. I mean, if you're run splints are gone. I mean, if you're run splints are gone. I mean, if you're run if you're a runner listening right now if you're a runner listening right now if you're a runner listening right now >> or you get shin splints from hiking. >> or you get shin splints from hiking. >> or you get shin splints from hiking. Sometimes people get them from hiking. Sometimes people get them from hiking. Sometimes people get them from hiking. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You do some of these like twice a week. >> You do some of these like twice a week. >> You do some of these like twice a week. Boom. Fixed. Boom. Fixed. Boom. Fixed. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> Oh. You you pair that with some ankle You you pair that with some ankle You you pair that with some ankle mobility and cuz that's that'll mobility and cuz that's that'll mobility and cuz that's that'll exacerbate it, right? If you have poor exacerbate it, right? If you have poor exacerbate it, right? If you have poor ankle mobility and you do a lot of sport ankle mobility and you do a lot of sport ankle mobility and you do a lot of sport like that, it'll it'll make that it'll like that, it'll it'll make that it'll like that, it'll it'll make that it'll make the shin splints even worse. make the shin splints even worse. make the shin splints even worse. >> You do some combat stretch with tibialis >> You do some combat stretch with tibialis >> You do some combat stretch with tibialis work and that's like a instant instant work and that's like a instant instant work and that's like a instant instant fix for that. fix for that. fix for that. >> I know. I was going to ask you, I saw >> I know. I was going to ask you, I saw >> I know. I was going to ask you, I saw you eating another one of the Legion you eating another one of the Legion you eating another one of the Legion Rice Krispie. Rice Krispie. Rice Krispie. >> They have new ones. Well, I think >> They have new ones. Well, I think >> They have new ones. Well, I think they're new. At least they're new to me. they're new. At least they're new to me. they're new. At least they're new to me. >> Like a flavored one. >> Like a flavored one. >> Like a flavored one. >> Yeah, they have. So, you know, Yeah. >> Yeah, they have. So, you know, Yeah. >> Yeah, they have. So, you know, Yeah. They originally just had kind of the They originally just had kind of the They originally just had kind of the Rice Krispie treat one. Now they have Rice Krispie treat one. Now they have Rice Krispie treat one. Now they have like a chocolate chip peanut butter one. like a chocolate chip peanut butter one. like a chocolate chip peanut butter one. >> What are the macros? 15 g of protein. >> What are the macros? 15 g of protein. >> What are the macros? 15 g of protein. They're so good. They're so good. They're so good. >> Are you hoarding all of them? Do you >> Are you hoarding all of them? Do you >> Are you hoarding all of them? Do you already [laughter] already [laughter] already [laughter] do? do? do? >> I got a box, too. You guys, >> I got a box, too. You guys, >> I got a box, too. You guys, >> it's only 190 calories. So, it's 190 >> it's only 190 calories. So, it's 190 >> it's only 190 calories. So, it's 190 calories, 15 grams of protein, and it calories, 15 grams of protein, and it calories, 15 grams of protein, and it tastes like a Rice Krispie treat with tastes like a Rice Krispie treat with tastes like a Rice Krispie treat with chocolate chips inside of it. So, no, chocolate chips inside of it. So, no, chocolate chips inside of it. So, no, I'm uh I'm uh I'm uh >> You know what I like those for? >> You know what I like those for? >> You know what I like those for? >> You know what I like those for? Okay, so >> You know what I like those for? Okay, so >> You know what I like those for? Okay, so obvious reasons. It's a You want a obvious reasons. It's a You want a obvious reasons. It's a You want a treat. You want hit protein targets. treat. You want hit protein targets. treat. You want hit protein targets. Here you go. Better than eating a Here you go. Better than eating a Here you go. Better than eating a regular Rice Krispie treat. tastes regular Rice Krispie treat. tastes regular Rice Krispie treat. tastes almost the same. But you know what? I almost the same. But you know what? I almost the same. But you know what? I really like them for people on GLP. Uh really like them for people on GLP. Uh really like them for people on GLP. Uh because their appetite is so low and so because their appetite is so low and so because their appetite is so low and so difficult and that hyper palletability difficult and that hyper palletability difficult and that hyper palletability can help. can help. can help. >> It does help. >> It does help. >> It does help. >> So it's like 15 grams of protein and >> So it's like 15 grams of protein and >> So it's like 15 grams of protein and it's so palatable. It tastes good. it's so palatable. It tastes good. it's so palatable. It tastes good. >> The appetite a bit. >> The appetite a bit. >> The appetite a bit. >> It helps them helps them hit those >> It helps them helps them hit those >> It helps them helps them hit those protein targets which make you know a protein targets which make you know a protein targets which make you know a big difference. So big difference. So big difference. So >> Legion hit it out the park with those. >> Legion hit it out the park with those. >> Legion hit it out the park with those. It was so good It was so good It was so good >> dude. Uh did you see I got to read this >> dude. Uh did you see I got to read this >> dude. Uh did you see I got to read this to you guys. So they did I'm going to to you guys. So they did I'm going to to you guys. So they did I'm going to read it because I don't want to mess it read it because I don't want to mess it read it because I don't want to mess it up. up. up. >> So they had AI analyze >> So they had AI analyze >> So they had AI analyze Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. >> They had AI analyze uh like stock uh um >> They had AI analyze uh like stock uh um >> They had AI analyze uh like stock uh um here I'll read it to you. A platform here I'll read it to you. A platform here I'll read it to you. A platform called Gov Greed built a seven layer called Gov Greed built a seven layer called Gov Greed built a seven layer machine learning system. [laughter] machine learning system. [laughter] machine learning system. [laughter] >> Dude, this is AI is great, right? >> Dude, this is AI is great, right? >> Dude, this is AI is great, right? >> Dude >> Dude >> Dude exposed everything. exposed everything. exposed everything. >> This is all public data, but it's just >> This is all public data, but it's just >> This is all public data, but it's just so much of it. You need like you'd need so much of it. You need like you'd need so much of it. You need like you'd need like 10 brilliant minds to go through it like 10 brilliant minds to go through it like 10 brilliant minds to go through it for months to piece this together. So for months to piece this together. So for months to piece this together. So [snorts] what they did is they use a [snorts] what they did is they use a [snorts] what they did is they use a machine learning system that cross machine learning system that cross machine learning system that cross references every stock trade disclosed references every stock trade disclosed references every stock trade disclosed by every sitting politician against the by every sitting politician against the by every sitting politician against the bills their committees control. bills their committees control. bills their committees control. >> The campaign donations they receive and >> The campaign donations they receive and >> The campaign donations they receive and the companies that their votes directly the companies that their votes directly the companies that their votes directly impact. impact. impact. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> How is this not given? >> How is this not given? >> How is this not given? >> This has to be like in front of >> This has to be like in front of >> This has to be like in front of everybody. everybody. everybody. >> Listen, it scored all 540 politicians >> Listen, it scored all 540 politicians >> Listen, it scored all 540 politicians currently in Congress. currently in Congress. currently in Congress. >> It scored them. >> It scored them. >> It scored them. >> Okay. [laughter] >> Okay. [laughter] >> Okay. [laughter] 56. So this is what's crazy. First of 56. So this is what's crazy. First of 56. So this is what's crazy. First of all, it should be illegal. all, it should be illegal. all, it should be illegal. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. illegal. They're passing laws on illegal. They're passing laws on illegal. They're passing laws on companies unfair advantage. companies unfair advantage. companies unfair advantage. >> It's like insider trading like crazy. >> It's like insider trading like crazy. >> It's like insider trading like crazy. >> It's like it's like sports reps betting >> It's like it's like sports reps betting >> It's like it's like sports reps betting on the games. on the games. on the games. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> This should not be allowed to be able to >> This should not be allowed to be able to >> This should not be allowed to be able to like make a policy that directly affects like make a policy that directly affects like make a policy that directly affects market. market. market. >> Exactly. Like that is ex if ridiculous. >> Exactly. Like that is ex if ridiculous. >> Exactly. Like that is ex if ridiculous. Why do we not let the NBA refs bet on Why do we not let the NBA refs bet on Why do we not let the NBA refs bet on finals games? They directly can finals games? They directly can finals games? They directly can influence it. That's whether they do it influence it. That's whether they do it influence it. That's whether they do it or not doesn't matter. It's the fact or not doesn't matter. It's the fact or not doesn't matter. It's the fact that they can influence it. And the fact that they can influence it. And the fact that they can influence it. And the fact that politicians can influence that politicians can influence that politicians can influence regulation that influences the stock regulation that influences the stock regulation that influences the stock market. market. market. >> They don't want to change that, you >> They don't want to change that, you >> They don't want to change that, you know, should not be allowed. Voters need know, should not be allowed. Voters need know, should not be allowed. Voters need to change. to change. to change. >> And by the way, this is why >> And by the way, this is why >> And by the way, this is why >> this is why you have these politicians >> this is why you have these politicians >> this is why you have these politicians >> who cuz how much does a congress person >> who cuz how much does a congress person >> who cuz how much does a congress person make? Was it 250 grand a year, Doug? make? Was it 250 grand a year, Doug? make? Was it 250 grand a year, Doug? >> Yeah. If that >> Yeah. If that >> Yeah. If that >> that's on the high end. So you're making >> that's on the high end. So you're making >> that's on the high end. So you're making like 200 grand a year. You live in like 200 grand a year. You live in like 200 grand a year. You live in Washington DC. It's expensive as hell. Washington DC. It's expensive as hell. Washington DC. It's expensive as hell. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So you're not making a ton of money. >> So you're not making a ton of money. >> So you're not making a ton of money. >> They're serving us >> They're serving us >> They're serving us >> and they're and and these guys are >> and they're and and these guys are >> and they're and and these guys are millionaires. Some of them worth $100 millionaires. Some of them worth $100 millionaires. Some of them worth $100 million, $200 million. And it's like, million, $200 million. And it's like, million, $200 million. And it's like, how are they doing that? how are they doing that? how are they doing that? >> Outside of >> Outside of >> Outside of >> because they're the best stock traders >> because they're the best stock traders >> because they're the best stock traders in history. That's in history. That's in history. That's >> $174,000. >> $174,000. >> $174,000. >> 274 or 174. >> 274 or 174. >> 274 or 174. >> Yeah.$174. >> Yeah.$174. >> Yeah.$174. >> And they and a lot of them live in uh >> And they and a lot of them live in uh >> And they and a lot of them live in uh and some of them live in and some of them live in and some of them live in >> I mean this isn't this uh [laughter] >> I mean this isn't this uh [laughter] >> I mean this isn't this uh [laughter] >> this should be so illegal. >> this should be so illegal. >> this should be so illegal. >> I I Yeah, I know. But like what you're >> I I Yeah, I know. But like what you're >> I I Yeah, I know. But like what you're about to share and and show like is about to share and and show like is about to share and and show like is anybody surprised? Everybody knows this. anybody surprised? Everybody knows this. anybody surprised? Everybody knows this. And isn't this why you want to get in And isn't this why you want to get in And isn't this why you want to get in office? is that you know this office? is that you know this office? is that you know this >> you're not going for the the mo most of >> you're not going for the the mo most of >> you're not going for the the mo most of these people are these people are these people are >> that is their incentive most of them I >> that is their incentive most of them I >> that is their incentive most of them I want to help want to help want to help >> right like because you know you're not >> right like because you know you're not >> right like because you know you're not going to get paid a lot going to get paid a lot going to get paid a lot >> and a lot of them have like legal >> and a lot of them have like legal >> and a lot of them have like legal degrees they go do a different degrees they go do a different degrees they go do a different profession that pays them more than profession that pays them more than profession that pays them more than >> they have a passion for helping people >> they have a passion for helping people >> they have a passion for helping people that's [laughter] that's what they sell that's [laughter] that's what they sell that's [laughter] that's what they sell the lemmings so check so check this out the lemmings so check so check this out the lemmings so check so check this out this is what it found 56% of every stock this is what it found 56% of every stock this is what it found 56% of every stock purchase made by Congress in the last 16 purchase made by Congress in the last 16 purchase made by Congress in the last 16 months was on a stock directly affected months was on a stock directly affected months was on a stock directly affected by a bill the buyer by a bill the buyer by a bill the buyer uh voted on. So that's 6 thou over 6,000 uh voted on. So that's 6 thou over 6,000 uh voted on. So that's 6 thou over 6,000 out of 11,000 total purchases. More than out of 11,000 total purchases. More than out of 11,000 total purchases. More than half of their stock buys are on half of their stock buys are on half of their stock buys are on companies whose fate the same politician companies whose fate the same politician companies whose fate the same politician was about to decide. Uh 343 of the 540 was about to decide. Uh 343 of the 540 was about to decide. Uh 343 of the 540 Congress members actively trade stocks Congress members actively trade stocks Congress members actively trade stocks while holding access while holding access while holding access >> to non-public legislative information. >> to non-public legislative information. >> to non-public legislative information. They know what's about to happen. They They know what's about to happen. They They know what's about to happen. They know that this thing's and they trade. know that this thing's and they trade. know that this thing's and they trade. This is crazy. And then you look at some This is crazy. And then you look at some This is crazy. And then you look at some of their like value like Nancy Pelosy's of their like value like Nancy Pelosy's of their like value like Nancy Pelosy's portfolio. Do you know how much she portfolio. Do you know how much she portfolio. Do you know how much she >> she's 194 million. >> she's 194 million. >> she's 194 million. >> She's got to be one of the top ones in >> She's got to be one of the top ones in >> She's got to be one of the top ones in there. there. there. >> Her greediness score according to this >> Her greediness score according to this >> Her greediness score according to this thing was 98 out of 100. thing was 98 out of 100. thing was 98 out of 100. >> Oh my [laughter] god, dude. >> Oh my [laughter] god, dude. >> Oh my [laughter] god, dude. >> Insane. >> Insane. >> Insane. >> So, what's crazy about this is there's a >> So, what's crazy about this is there's a >> So, what's crazy about this is there's a an act called the Stock Act, but they're an act called the Stock Act, but they're an act called the Stock Act, but they're sitting on it. Do you know why? Cuz sitting on it. Do you know why? Cuz sitting on it. Do you know why? Cuz they're the very people that need to they're the very people that need to they're the very people that need to vote on it to make it happen are the vote on it to make it happen are the vote on it to make it happen are the ones that are making all the money, bro. ones that are making all the money, bro. ones that are making all the money, bro. >> I mean, >> I mean, >> I mean, >> so they're just not >> so they're just not >> so they're just not >> Well, why does it does it go into like >> Well, why does it does it go into like >> Well, why does it does it go into like family, too? cuz you see how like city family, too? cuz you see how like city family, too? cuz you see how like city presidents and everybody else like their presidents and everybody else like their presidents and everybody else like their family benefits. family benefits. family benefits. >> I mean, even if we just uh >> I mean, even if we just uh >> I mean, even if we just uh >> funny even if you just limit it, it >> funny even if you just limit it, it >> funny even if you just limit it, it still would be like still would be like still would be like >> it's super cheating. >> it's super cheating. >> it's super cheating. Like what I'm saying is like okay so Like what I'm saying is like okay so Like what I'm saying is like okay so because if you if you got rid of it because if you if you got rid of it because if you if you got rid of it completely which you you would think is completely which you you would think is completely which you you would think is the right thing to do then nobody wants the right thing to do then nobody wants the right thing to do then nobody wants to do it the job to do it the job to do it the job >> good you know who I want to be you know >> good you know who I want to be you know >> good you know who I want to be you know who I want to run government someone who who I want to run government someone who who I want to run government someone who doesn't want to do it [laughter] doesn't want to do it [laughter] doesn't want to do it [laughter] >> right >> right >> right >> I'm serious I'm serious the person who >> I'm serious I'm serious the person who >> I'm serious I'm serious the person who desires power is the last person who desires power is the last person who desires power is the last person who should have power should have power should have power >> that's just a fact so [clears throat] it >> that's just a fact so [clears throat] it >> that's just a fact so [clears throat] it should literally be like ah okay should literally be like ah okay should literally be like ah okay whatever I guess I'll do it it's a duty whatever I guess I'll do it it's a duty whatever I guess I'll do it it's a duty cool cool cool >> I mean it would be the ideal way because >> I mean it would be the ideal way because >> I mean it would be the ideal way because you would get people that didn't really you would get people that didn't really you would get people that didn't really want to do the position position and it want to do the position position and it want to do the position position and it would organically shrink government too. would organically shrink government too. would organically shrink government too. >> Totally. >> Totally. >> Totally. >> Cuz it's like listen, we don't have >> Cuz it's like listen, we don't have >> Cuz it's like listen, we don't have enough people that want to do that enough people that want to do that enough people that want to do that thing. So we we thing. So we we thing. So we we >> You know what this reminds me of? This >> You know what this reminds me of? This >> You know what this reminds me of? This reminds me of when the FBI investigates reminds me of when the FBI investigates reminds me of when the FBI investigates itself. itself. itself. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> For fraud. >> For fraud. >> For fraud. >> It's like if you take it's like a >> It's like if you take it's like a >> It's like if you take it's like a company taking an employee, give company taking an employee, give company taking an employee, give yourself a review and then let me know yourself a review and then let me know yourself a review and then let me know uh should you get should get a raise. uh should you get should get a raise. uh should you get should get a raise. >> Make sure the reports on my desk Monday. >> Make sure the reports on my desk Monday. >> Make sure the reports on my desk Monday. >> Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I deserve a raise, dude. >> Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I deserve a raise, dude. >> Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I deserve a raise, dude. Good job. [laughter] You're crushing. I Good job. [laughter] You're crushing. I Good job. [laughter] You're crushing. I know. I just think it's so crazy. know. I just think it's so crazy. know. I just think it's so crazy. >> Oh, you know what? I wish I because I >> Oh, you know what? I wish I because I >> Oh, you know what? I wish I because I know there's pages that are dedicated to know there's pages that are dedicated to know there's pages that are dedicated to just following these politicians bets. I just following these politicians bets. I just following these politicians bets. I mean there's mean there's mean there's >> they've tried to shut those down. >> they've tried to shut those down. >> they've tried to shut those down. >> They have. >> They have. >> They have. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> People do well actually that have been >> People do well actually that have been >> People do well actually that have been following those too. following those too. following those too. >> They just copy their copy directly. >> They just copy their copy directly. >> They just copy their copy directly. >> Just follow what they're doing and and >> Just follow what they're doing and and >> Just follow what they're doing and and buy what they buy. So buy what they buy. So buy what they buy. So >> and what makes me really mad about all >> and what makes me really mad about all >> and what makes me really mad about all this is that these are the same people this is that these are the same people this is that these are the same people that rail on uh entrepreneurs. that rail on uh entrepreneurs. that rail on uh entrepreneurs. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And people who create jobs and >> And people who create jobs and >> And people who create jobs and >> it's the most hypocritical system ever. >> it's the most hypocritical system ever. >> it's the most hypocritical system ever. how you know since you went down the the how you know since you went down the the how you know since you went down the the stock thing and obviously it's been a stock thing and obviously it's been a stock thing and obviously it's been a topic with SpaceX going on and we've topic with SpaceX going on and we've topic with SpaceX going on and we've been talking off air a lot about all been talking off air a lot about all been talking off air a lot about all this stuff like that. Something that I'm this stuff like that. Something that I'm this stuff like that. Something that I'm super curious about and I don't know super curious about and I don't know super curious about and I don't know maybe help Doug Google this is maybe help Doug Google this is maybe help Doug Google this is [laughter] >> I feel like a 5-year-old right now >> I feel like a 5-year-old right now [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> well I I don't even you know why I say I >> well I I don't even you know why I say I >> well I I don't even you know why I say I should say I don't even know how I should say I don't even know how I should say I don't even know how I Google this but what I the the what the Google this but what I the the what the Google this but what I the the what the stat what I'm trying to get to the stat what I'm trying to get to the stat what I'm trying to get to the bottom of is bottom of is bottom of is um the this the people that buy stocks um the this the people that buy stocks um the this the people that buy stocks today is radically different than what today is radically different than what today is radically different than what it was just 30 25 years ago. it was just 30 25 years ago. it was just 30 25 years ago. >> Oh yeah. um with with Robin Hood and >> Oh yeah. um with with Robin Hood and >> Oh yeah. um with with Robin Hood and like you have more young retail buyers. like you have more young retail buyers. like you have more young retail buyers. It used to be something that was just It used to be something that was just It used to be something that was just serious investors and you or you had to serious investors and you or you had to serious investors and you or you had to you hired someone to do it and and then you hired someone to do it and and then you hired someone to do it and and then Erade came around and that kind of Erade came around and that kind of Erade came around and that kind of changed it a little bit. Robin Hood has changed it a little bit. Robin Hood has changed it a little bit. Robin Hood has really changed it and so I'd like to see really changed it and so I'd like to see really changed it and so I'd like to see >> how much of this market manipulation is >> how much of this market manipulation is >> how much of this market manipulation is just retail buyers following trends and just retail buyers following trends and just retail buyers following trends and doing stuff organiz doing stuff organiz doing stuff organiz organize because they if they remember organize because they if they remember organize because they if they remember they did that with GameStop. Yeah, they did that with GameStop. Yeah, they did that with GameStop. Yeah, >> remember they all got together. I mean >> remember they all got together. I mean >> remember they all got together. I mean that's not they don't really have to that's not they don't really have to that's not they don't really have to organize s like for example SpaceX is a organize s like for example SpaceX is a organize s like for example SpaceX is a great example this it is in my feed on great example this it is in my feed on great example this it is in my feed on every everybody's talking about it you every everybody's talking about it you every everybody's talking about it you know so it's got so much heat behind it know so it's got so much heat behind it know so it's got so much heat behind it >> that there's so many people that just >> that there's so many people that just >> that there's so many people that just follow trend follow trend follow trend >> oh I see what you're saying like social >> oh I see what you're saying like social >> oh I see what you're saying like social media hype and media hype and media hype and >> oh yeah I mean that's I mean there's so >> oh yeah I mean that's I mean there's so >> oh yeah I mean that's I mean there's so much of that now like is is that now 20% much of that now like is is that now 20% much of that now like is is that now 20% of what our investors are they 30% are of what our investors are they 30% are of what our investors are they 30% are they half they half they half >> I don't think so I mean there's such >> I don't think so I mean there's such >> I don't think so I mean there's such you're talking about huge valuation And you're talking about huge valuation And you're talking about huge valuation And the average buyer, the average buyer, the average buyer, >> that's why 20% would be crazy because >> that's why 20% would be crazy because >> that's why 20% would be crazy because big money is moving like Black Rock and big money is moving like Black Rock and big money is moving like Black Rock and stuff like that. stuff like that. stuff like that. >> Like there was a dude that just bought >> Like there was a dude that just bought >> Like there was a dude that just bought like another two billion, like another two billion, like another two billion, >> you know, shares of uh $2 billion. >> you know, shares of uh $2 billion. >> you know, shares of uh $2 billion. >> Yeah, there's there's people that are >> Yeah, there's there's people that are >> Yeah, there's there's people that are really moving it. But has it crept up really moving it. But has it crept up really moving it. But has it crept up from 25 years ago when retail buyers from 25 years ago when retail buyers from 25 years ago when retail buyers couldn't even move make an influence on couldn't even move make an influence on couldn't even move make an influence on the market? that retail buyers now make the market? that retail buyers now make the market? that retail buyers now make up 20% of investing, which if retail up 20% of investing, which if retail up 20% of investing, which if retail buyers can make up 20 or 30%, even buyers can make up 20 or 30%, even buyers can make up 20 or 30%, even though it's not Black Rockck, that's though it's not Black Rockck, that's though it's not Black Rockck, that's nothing to sniff at. nothing to sniff at. nothing to sniff at. >> What, Doug? You maybe Google this. What >> What, Doug? You maybe Google this. What >> What, Doug? You maybe Google this. What percentage of uh stock investments are percentage of uh stock investments are percentage of uh stock investments are made by everyday retail investors. That made by everyday retail investors. That made by everyday retail investors. That might be a good, but I bet you it varies might be a good, but I bet you it varies might be a good, but I bet you it varies between, you know, what company, right? between, you know, what company, right? between, you know, what company, right? >> And we also have 401ks and stuff, so it >> And we also have 401ks and stuff, so it >> And we also have 401ks and stuff, so it might put that in there where it's might put that in there where it's might put that in there where it's investing. investing. investing. >> I That's why I didn't know how to Google >> I That's why I didn't know how to Google >> I That's why I didn't know how to Google it to get to the what I'm but you get it to get to the what I'm but you get it to get to the what I'm but you get where I'm going right there is where I'm going right there is where I'm going right there is definitely I mean I see this in um other definitely I mean I see this in um other definitely I mean I see this in um other markets also like you see it in the the markets also like you see it in the the markets also like you see it in the the card market card market card market >> 20 30% of total trading volume equity >> 20 30% of total trading volume equity >> 20 30% of total trading volume equity markets but in total outstanding equity markets but in total outstanding equity markets but in total outstanding equity ownership retail investment okay so ownership retail investment okay so ownership retail investment okay so total ownership is slow is low the vast total ownership is slow is low the vast total ownership is slow is low the vast majority 90% of all corporate stocks is majority 90% of all corporate stocks is majority 90% of all corporate stocks is controlled by institutional investors controlled by institutional investors controlled by institutional investors like mutual funds hedge funds and like mutual funds hedge funds and like mutual funds hedge funds and pension funds pension funds pension funds >> so it's not a >> so it's not a >> so it's not a and and I wonder how much of that has and and I wonder how much of that has and and I wonder how much of that has changed over the last 20 years. That's changed over the last 20 years. That's changed over the last 20 years. That's like is it was it before 99% and now like is it was it before 99% and now like is it was it before 99% and now it's now they've moved into 10%. That's it's now they've moved into 10%. That's it's now they've moved into 10%. That's a good question. Yeah. So I'm I'm a good question. Yeah. So I'm I'm a good question. Yeah. So I'm I'm curious to how much curious to how much curious to how much >> because I see this in like >> because I see this in like >> because I see this in like >> you're probably right because remember >> you're probably right because remember >> you're probably right because remember 401ks 401ks 401ks >> haven't been around for a long long long >> haven't been around for a long long long >> haven't been around for a long long long time, right? Like it was pensions time, right? Like it was pensions time, right? Like it was pensions >> for years and years and years. Uh, and >> for years and years and years. Uh, and >> for years and years and years. Uh, and there wasn't this. there wasn't this. there wasn't this. >> And even then, I I think there's what I >> And even then, I I think there's what I >> And even then, I I think there's what I think there's more of it. There's think there's more of it. There's think there's more of it. There's there's more random people there's more random people there's more random people buying $500 worth of stocks, $1,000 buying $500 worth of stocks, $1,000 buying $500 worth of stocks, $1,000 worth of stocks than there was before. worth of stocks than there was before. worth of stocks than there was before. Now, it takes a lot of those to make up Now, it takes a lot of those to make up Now, it takes a lot of those to make up for, you know, for, you know, for, you know, >> the volume of that is kind of low. >> the volume of that is kind of low. >> the volume of that is kind of low. >> Yeah. One fund. You know what I'm >> Yeah. One fund. You know what I'm >> Yeah. One fund. You know what I'm saying? But, saying? But, saying? But, >> I mean, I think it's it's interesting >> I mean, I think it's it's interesting >> I mean, I think it's it's interesting and I think it it's it kind of leans and I think it it's it kind of leans and I think it it's it kind of leans into Doug was talking about this off air into Doug was talking about this off air into Doug was talking about this off air arrow just about how crazy this this arrow just about how crazy this this arrow just about how crazy this this stock market run that we've been on. But stock market run that we've been on. But stock market run that we've been on. But if we've had this over the last 20 if we've had this over the last 20 if we've had this over the last 20 years, every year an increase of retail years, every year an increase of retail years, every year an increase of retail buyers coming in, it's going to impact buyers coming in, it's going to impact buyers coming in, it's going to impact that. Now, it can't swing the market the that. Now, it can't swing the market the that. Now, it can't swing the market the same that Black Rockck and some of these same that Black Rockck and some of these same that Black Rockck and some of these big ones can, but it absolutely could big ones can, but it absolutely could big ones can, but it absolutely could send it on this like this doesn't make send it on this like this doesn't make send it on this like this doesn't make sense that we keep going. sense that we keep going. sense that we keep going. >> You know what's wild, too? I was just >> You know what's wild, too? I was just >> You know what's wild, too? I was just thinking about cuz as I'm talking like I thinking about cuz as I'm talking like I thinking about cuz as I'm talking like I just mentioned that dude uh that uh that just mentioned that dude uh that uh that just mentioned that dude uh that uh that that I think he bought another billion that I think he bought another billion that I think he bought another billion dollars or$2 billion worth of just dollars or$2 billion worth of just dollars or$2 billion worth of just SpaceX. Number one, I was thinking SpaceX. Number one, I was thinking SpaceX. Number one, I was thinking about, man, the coahones about, man, the coahones about, man, the coahones >> on on someone like that to take a >> on on someone like that to take a >> on on someone like that to take a billion dollars. billion dollars. billion dollars. >> That is a huge bet. >> That is a huge bet. >> That is a huge bet. >> But then here's the other thing. When >> But then here's the other thing. When >> But then here's the other thing. When you're a big-time investor like that, you're a big-time investor like that, you're a big-time investor like that, your move your move your move >> influences a lot of people. Like you go >> influences a lot of people. Like you go >> influences a lot of people. Like you go put a billion, everyone's like, "Oh god, put a billion, everyone's like, "Oh god, put a billion, everyone's like, "Oh god, we should buy this." we should buy this." we should buy this." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And right out the gates, you're going to >> And right out the gates, you're going to >> And right out the gates, you're going to >> takes the momentum of the stock. Yeah. >> takes the momentum of the stock. Yeah. >> takes the momentum of the stock. Yeah. It's it's got a big influence. It's it's got a big influence. It's it's got a big influence. >> I know. So crazy. Anyway, I want to >> I know. So crazy. Anyway, I want to >> I know. So crazy. Anyway, I want to bring something up on uh in regards to bring something up on uh in regards to bring something up on uh in regards to essential amino acids uh because their essential amino acids uh because their essential amino acids uh because their use is pop is getting more popular um use is pop is getting more popular um use is pop is getting more popular um especially with GLP uh consumers. especially with GLP uh consumers. especially with GLP uh consumers. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And um it's important to so this is >> And um it's important to so this is >> And um it's important to so this is really important to know when it comes really important to know when it comes really important to know when it comes to um essential amino acid use. Uh the to um essential amino acid use. Uh the to um essential amino acid use. Uh the leucine content has to be high otherwise leucine content has to be high otherwise leucine content has to be high otherwise it really doesn't do much. So leucine is it really doesn't do much. So leucine is it really doesn't do much. So leucine is the trigger amino acid. Leucine is what the trigger amino acid. Leucine is what the trigger amino acid. Leucine is what tells the body to go into muscle protein tells the body to go into muscle protein tells the body to go into muscle protein synthesis. Then it has the essential synthesis. Then it has the essential synthesis. Then it has the essential amino acids there to do the job. amino acids there to do the job. amino acids there to do the job. >> But it's leucine that triggers uh the >> But it's leucine that triggers uh the >> But it's leucine that triggers uh the thing moving thing moving thing moving >> makes it the most valuable in there. >> makes it the most valuable in there. >> makes it the most valuable in there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yes. 40%. If your essential amino acid >> Yes. 40%. If your essential amino acid >> Yes. 40%. If your essential amino acid supplement isn't 40% leucine, you have supplement isn't 40% leucine, you have supplement isn't 40% leucine, you have to take twice as much or three times as to take twice as much or three times as to take twice as much or three times as much to do the same thing. So you're much to do the same thing. So you're much to do the same thing. So you're taking all these essential amino acids, taking all these essential amino acids, taking all these essential amino acids, but the lucine is the trigger. And but the lucine is the trigger. And but the lucine is the trigger. And without that trigger, then you're not without that trigger, then you're not without that trigger, then you're not going to get uh the benefits. And the going to get uh the benefits. And the going to get uh the benefits. And the data on this is really really good and data on this is really really good and data on this is really really good and really really clear. really really clear. really really clear. >> Well, I remember the last time we talked >> Well, I remember the last time we talked >> Well, I remember the last time we talked about Keon and we were talking about about Keon and we were talking about about Keon and we were talking about this uh I had remember we had Doug look this uh I had remember we had Doug look this uh I had remember we had Doug look up like it's the more expensive up like it's the more expensive up like it's the more expensive ingredient of all the ingredients too. ingredient of all the ingredients too. ingredient of all the ingredients too. Yes. Yes. Yes. >> So if there's going to be an area that a >> So if there's going to be an area that a >> So if there's going to be an area that a company pixie dust or goes short on, company pixie dust or goes short on, company pixie dust or goes short on, >> it's the it's the most expensive one of >> it's the it's the most expensive one of >> it's the it's the most expensive one of the most expensive. And if the average the most expensive. And if the average the most expensive. And if the average person just hears, oh, when you're on a person just hears, oh, when you're on a person just hears, oh, when you're on a GLP-1 or oh, the benefits of EAAS, GLP-1 or oh, the benefits of EAAS, GLP-1 or oh, the benefits of EAAS, >> and they don't know how to look at how >> and they don't know how to look at how >> and they don't know how to look at how much leucine or how much continent like much leucine or how much continent like much leucine or how much continent like you may be buying a and you and you you may be buying a and you and you you may be buying a and you and you strictly buy because oh, that's the best strictly buy because oh, that's the best strictly buy because oh, that's the best deal. There's a good chance that the deal. There's a good chance that the deal. There's a good chance that the reason why it is the best deal. reason why it is the best deal. reason why it is the best deal. >> You think it's the same. You think it's >> You think it's the same. You think it's >> You think it's the same. You think it's the same because you look at the product the same because you look at the product the same because you look at the product >> because it'll have the same stuff in it, >> because it'll have the same stuff in it, >> because it'll have the same stuff in it, but the amount of it matters. What they but the amount of it matters. What they but the amount of it matters. What they don't show and and this is what your don't show and and this is what your don't show and and this is what your your not great essential amino acid comp your not great essential amino acid comp your not great essential amino acid comp companies will do is they won't tell you companies will do is they won't tell you companies will do is they won't tell you the amounts of each amino acid. It'll the amounts of each amino acid. It'll the amounts of each amino acid. It'll say total say total say total >> total you know 25 grams of of essential >> total you know 25 grams of of essential >> total you know 25 grams of of essential amino acids or whatever or five grams or amino acids or whatever or five grams or amino acids or whatever or five grams or whatever the the number is without whatever the the number is without whatever the the number is without telling you what the lucine content is. telling you what the lucine content is. telling you what the lucine content is. So Keons is 40%. So of the total 40% of So Keons is 40%. So of the total 40% of So Keons is 40%. So of the total 40% of it is coming from uh from lucine. You it is coming from uh from lucine. You it is coming from uh from lucine. You >> know their stuff is good good stuff. >> know their stuff is good good stuff. >> know their stuff is good good stuff. Speaking of protein, by the way, there's Speaking of protein, by the way, there's Speaking of protein, by the way, there's been an advancement in whey protein been an advancement in whey protein been an advancement in whey protein formulation. I'm going to pull formulation. I'm going to pull formulation. I'm going to pull >> Hey, wait. Why since you're bringing >> Hey, wait. Why since you're bringing >> Hey, wait. Why since you're bringing that up, what's going on with the the that up, what's going on with the the that up, what's going on with the the I've seen posts now quite a bit of this I've seen posts now quite a bit of this I've seen posts now quite a bit of this around uh a shortage of that there's around uh a shortage of that there's around uh a shortage of that there's this fear that we're going to have a this fear that we're going to have a this fear that we're going to have a shortage of shortage of shortage of >> It's already happening. >> It's already happening. >> It's already happening. >> Is it? >> Is it? >> Is it? >> Yeah. Expect whey protein to go up in >> Yeah. Expect whey protein to go up in >> Yeah. Expect whey protein to go up in price. price. price. >> No way. That's right. >> No way. That's right. >> No way. That's right. >> Get out of here, >> Get out of here, >> Get out of here, >> everybody. Pro think whey protein uh is >> everybody. Pro think whey protein uh is >> everybody. Pro think whey protein uh is uh a it's a good source of protein. It's uh a it's a good source of protein. It's uh a it's a good source of protein. It's also one of the best ones to add to also one of the best ones to add to also one of the best ones to add to foods. [snorts] Um and um it's so many foods. [snorts] Um and um it's so many foods. [snorts] Um and um it's so many foods now are trying to fortify with foods now are trying to fortify with foods now are trying to fortify with protein that the demand on whey protein protein that the demand on whey protein protein that the demand on whey protein uh is going through the roof. uh is going through the roof. uh is going through the roof. >> So GLP kind of markets influence this a >> So GLP kind of markets influence this a >> So GLP kind of markets influence this a lot. They think lot. They think lot. They think >> that's part of it. There's also now >> that's part of it. There's also now >> that's part of it. There's also now public awareness on the benefits of public awareness on the benefits of public awareness on the benefits of protein. I mean, you guys are see you protein. I mean, you guys are see you protein. I mean, you guys are see you guys are seeing this, right, with like guys are seeing this, right, with like guys are seeing this, right, with like >> food pyramid, >> food pyramid, >> food pyramid, >> Doritos, chips with added protein. >> Doritos, chips with added protein. >> Doritos, chips with added protein. >> I mean, they're they're throwing protein >> I mean, they're they're throwing protein >> I mean, they're they're throwing protein in everything now. in everything now. in everything now. >> So, that's what I was curious. So, >> So, that's what I was curious. So, >> So, that's what I was curious. So, that's why the shortage is because so that's why the shortage is because so that's why the shortage is because so many companies now many companies now many companies now >> are sprinkling. >> are sprinkling. >> are sprinkling. >> It's just public awareness, dude. It's >> It's just public awareness, dude. It's >> It's just public awareness, dude. It's like the GLP I think GLP use has like the GLP I think GLP use has like the GLP I think GLP use has increased public awareness tremendously increased public awareness tremendously increased public awareness tremendously around protein. around protein. around protein. >> People have been speaking about protein >> People have been speaking about protein >> People have been speaking about protein now for a while. We have. now for a while. We have. now for a while. We have. >> Yes. I think we were I think we were >> Yes. I think we were I think we were >> Yes. I think we were I think we were already on that track the last 10 years already on that track the last 10 years already on that track the last 10 years and and I think cuz we you talked about and and I think cuz we you talked about and and I think cuz we you talked about that you you talked about that being uh that you you talked about that being uh that you you talked about that being uh I mean early on in the the podcast you I mean early on in the the podcast you I mean early on in the the podcast you talked about that being like the the talked about that being like the the talked about that being like the the thing that we would demonize because thing that we would demonize because thing that we would demonize because because at some point because at some point because at some point >> Yeah. because we're there was such a >> Yeah. because we're there was such a >> Yeah. because we're there was such a hard push for it and then we'll we'll hard push for it and then we'll we'll hard push for it and then we'll we'll counter and come the other direction counter and come the other direction counter and come the other direction >> towards crickets now >> towards crickets now >> towards crickets now >> which I I see I no I see I see the push >> which I I see I no I see I see the push >> which I I see I no I see I see the push back on the high protein already. Yeah. back on the high protein already. Yeah. back on the high protein already. Yeah. Because it's become so popular now. Now Because it's become so popular now. Now Because it's become so popular now. Now it's in everything. And now you have the it's in everything. And now you have the it's in everything. And now you have the other talking the other side that's other talking the other side that's other talking the other side that's coming back and being like, "Oh, this coming back and being like, "Oh, this coming back and being like, "Oh, this high protein is a bunch of BS." And high protein is a bunch of BS." And high protein is a bunch of BS." And >> so it's like >> so it's like >> so it's like >> you think of shortages, right? You think >> you think of shortages, right? You think >> you think of shortages, right? You think of people stockpiling and like freaking of people stockpiling and like freaking of people stockpiling and like freaking out. There's going to be a bunch of out. There's going to be a bunch of out. There's going to be a bunch of bodybuilders [laughter] bodybuilders [laughter] bodybuilders [laughter] >> overnight rich or just just freaking >> overnight rich or just just freaking >> overnight rich or just just freaking out. Yeah. out. Yeah. out. Yeah. >> You know, in their Armageddon, >> You know, in their Armageddon, >> You know, in their Armageddon, >> they're the ones stockpiling right now. >> they're the ones stockpiling right now. >> they're the ones stockpiling right now. Yeah. Like Yeah. Like Yeah. Like >> with toilet paper. Doug pulled up. Uh >> with toilet paper. Doug pulled up. Uh >> with toilet paper. Doug pulled up. Uh the hosts of Mind Pump podcast the hosts of Mind Pump podcast the hosts of Mind Pump podcast frequently discussed the demonization of frequently discussed the demonization of frequently discussed the demonization of protein. They initially featured this protein. They initially featured this protein. They initially featured this topic on the main subject in episode one topic on the main subject in episode one topic on the main subject in episode one >> aired in 2020. >> aired in 2020. >> aired in 2020. >> Wow, that's what AI actually said. Well, >> Wow, that's what AI actually said. Well, >> Wow, that's what AI actually said. Well, that's cool. Did you type our name in? that's cool. Did you type our name in? that's cool. Did you type our name in? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. >> Yeah, I did. Yeah. >> Yeah, I did. Yeah. >> Yeah, I did. Yeah. >> Oh, Doug, I thought we were cool for a >> Oh, Doug, I thought we were cool for a >> Oh, Doug, I thought we were cool for a second. [laughter] second. [laughter] second. [laughter] >> Well, no, I had to give it some. >> Well, no, I had to give it some. >> Well, no, I had to give it some. >> Yeah, [clears throat] but anyway, so >> Yeah, [clears throat] but anyway, so >> Yeah, [clears throat] but anyway, so there's new technology and how they're there's new technology and how they're there's new technology and how they're going to improve the palletability of going to improve the palletability of going to improve the palletability of whey protein. And believe it or not, whey protein. And believe it or not, whey protein. And believe it or not, this is a science daily. this is a science daily. this is a science daily. >> Make it make it better. Even >> Make it make it better. Even >> Make it make it better. Even >> make it taste better. >> make it taste better. >> make it taste better. >> It already tastes good. >> It already tastes good. >> It already tastes good. >> No, it's going to taste even better. So, >> No, it's going to taste even better. So, >> No, it's going to taste even better. So, this isn't science daily. This is so this isn't science daily. This is so this isn't science daily. This is so weird, right? So, this is weird, right? So, this is weird, right? So, this is >> Oh, so yeah. So the title of this in in >> Oh, so yeah. So the title of this in in >> Oh, so yeah. So the title of this in in in science news the secret behind in science news the secret behind in science news the secret behind smoother better tasting protein shakes. smoother better tasting protein shakes. smoother better tasting protein shakes. This was out of the University of This was out of the University of This was out of the University of Reading and it's a new way protein Reading and it's a new way protein Reading and it's a new way protein manufacturing technique would make manufacturing technique would make manufacturing technique would make protein shakes taste better and feel protein shakes taste better and feel protein shakes taste better and feel smoother in the mouth. So they they've smoother in the mouth. So they they've smoother in the mouth. So they they've traced unwanted bitterness to traced unwanted bitterness to traced unwanted bitterness to concentrated minerals and found a way to concentrated minerals and found a way to concentrated minerals and found a way to remove them without sacrificing the remove them without sacrificing the remove them without sacrificing the improved texture. So they have this improved texture. So they have this improved texture. So they have this technique of improving the texture of technique of improving the texture of technique of improving the texture of it. So whey protein is kind of thin, you it. So whey protein is kind of thin, you it. So whey protein is kind of thin, you know, like like casein is is got great know, like like casein is is got great know, like like casein is is got great mouth feel. Have you ever had casein mouth feel. Have you ever had casein mouth feel. Have you ever had casein protein? It's got like a nice creamy protein? It's got like a nice creamy protein? It's got like a nice creamy texture. Whey is kind of thin. texture. Whey is kind of thin. texture. Whey is kind of thin. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They found a way through uh processing >> They found a way through uh processing >> They found a way through uh processing to make the whey protein to make the whey protein to make the whey protein >> uh have that nice mouth feel, but then >> uh have that nice mouth feel, but then >> uh have that nice mouth feel, but then because it's got a little bit of because it's got a little bit of because it's got a little bit of bitterness because of these minerals bitterness because of these minerals bitterness because of these minerals that they've also removed. So now that they've also removed. So now that they've also removed. So now they're like, "Oh, cool. We're going to they're like, "Oh, cool. We're going to they're like, "Oh, cool. We're going to make whey protein even more palatable." make whey protein even more palatable." make whey protein even more palatable." >> Interesting. I know >> Interesting. I know >> Interesting. I know >> cuz I think they've I there's there's >> cuz I think they've I there's there's >> cuz I think they've I there's there's some companies that have just really hit some companies that have just really hit some companies that have just really hit it out the park with the way protein it out the park with the way protein it out the park with the way protein shakes taste now. I mean I I remember shakes taste now. I mean I I remember shakes taste now. I mean I I remember protein shakes protein shakes protein shakes >> you remember? >> you remember? >> you remember? >> Yeah. I remember protein shakes when we >> Yeah. I remember protein shakes when we >> Yeah. I remember protein shakes when we were younger and they were not they were were younger and they were not they were were younger and they were not they were you had to choke them down. You remember you had to choke them down. You remember you had to choke them down. You remember I know you did. I I had them all dude. I know you did. I I had them all dude. I know you did. I I had them all dude. >> I had the 82 box of EO EAS mylex shakes >> I had the 82 box of EO EAS mylex shakes >> I had the 82 box of EO EAS mylex shakes >> that were like cake batter. Yeah. Like >> that were like cake batter. Yeah. Like >> that were like cake batter. Yeah. Like you got [laughter] it took me like 3 you got [laughter] it took me like 3 you got [laughter] it took me like 3 hours to get you hold it like this. It hours to get you hold it like this. It hours to get you hold it like this. It would like pour out how slow. would like pour out how slow. would like pour out how slow. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yes, bro. It was cake batter. It was so >> Yes, bro. It was cake batter. It was so >> Yes, bro. It was cake batter. It was so thick and hard to choke down. thick and hard to choke down. thick and hard to choke down. >> I My first protein shake was my my dad >> I My first protein shake was my my dad >> I My first protein shake was my my dad bought it. So my dad I told you guys he bought it. So my dad I told you guys he bought it. So my dad I told you guys he had like a short literally three month had like a short literally three month had like a short literally three month st of lifting weights cuz one of his one st of lifting weights cuz one of his one st of lifting weights cuz one of his one of his helpers talked about how much he of his helpers talked about how much he of his helpers talked about how much he could bench press. And so my dad bought could bench press. And so my dad bought could bench press. And so my dad bought a weight set that he ended up only using a weight set that he ended up only using a weight set that he ended up only using for three months that I used later on. for three months that I used later on. for three months that I used later on. And uh and he bought a protein because And uh and he bought a protein because And uh and he bought a protein because the guy told him, "You got to take you the guy told him, "You got to take you the guy told him, "You got to take you had to take protein shakes." My dad's had to take protein shakes." My dad's had to take protein shakes." My dad's like, "Okay." So he went to the sporting like, "Okay." So he went to the sporting like, "Okay." So he went to the sporting goods store because that's where he had goods store because that's where he had goods store because that's where he had to buy them. And uh it was a it was a to buy them. And uh it was a it was a to buy them. And uh it was a it was a Weer. It had the picture of Weer, you Weer. It had the picture of Weer, you Weer. It had the picture of Weer, you know, when his arms are crossed know, when his arms are crossed know, when his arms are crossed >> and he looks all jacked like this. >> and he looks all jacked like this. >> and he looks all jacked like this. >> And I can't remember the name of it. It >> And I can't remember the name of it. It >> And I can't remember the name of it. It was a Weer. It was a gain. It was a was a Weer. It was a gain. It was a was a Weer. It was a gain. It was a gainer shake. It might have been called gainer shake. It might have been called gainer shake. It might have been called muscle builder or something like that. muscle builder or something like that. muscle builder or something like that. And it was bro, it was chalk. And it was bro, it was chalk. And it was bro, it was chalk. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> it was chalk. Well, that was like the >> it was chalk. Well, that was like the >> it was chalk. Well, that was like the GNC Gainer 4000 or whatever they were GNC Gainer 4000 or whatever they were GNC Gainer 4000 or whatever they were that were like that that were super that were like that that were super that were like that that were super chalky. Mega mass. Mega mass 4000. chalky. Mega mass. Mega mass 4000. chalky. Mega mass. Mega mass 4000. >> It wasn't Mega. That's later. So, that >> It wasn't Mega. That's later. So, that >> It wasn't Mega. That's later. So, that was Mega 4000 was later. was Mega 4000 was later. was Mega 4000 was later. >> I remember that one. >> I remember that one. >> I remember that one. >> Doug, look up Weer Gainer and Protein >> Doug, look up Weer Gainer and Protein >> Doug, look up Weer Gainer and Protein Shake 1994. Shake 1994. Shake 1994. Look that up and see what the picture Look that up and see what the picture Look that up and see what the picture looks like. looks like. looks like. >> Do you think eventually with that new >> Do you think eventually with that new >> Do you think eventually with that new technology we'll be able to get uh technology we'll be able to get uh technology we'll be able to get uh protein soft serve? protein soft serve? protein soft serve? >> Oh, >> Oh, >> Oh, >> that would be so good. >> that would be so good. >> that would be so good. >> Oh, that would be elegant. Well, I mean, >> Oh, that would be elegant. Well, I mean, >> Oh, that would be elegant. Well, I mean, we already have the the Ninja Creamy we already have the the Ninja Creamy we already have the the Ninja Creamy does a pretty good job. That does look does a pretty good job. That does look does a pretty good job. That does look pretty close. pretty close. pretty close. >> Pretty good job of making a protein >> Pretty good job of making a protein >> Pretty good job of making a protein shake taste like ice cream. shake taste like ice cream. shake taste like ice cream. >> Just click on images because it might >> Just click on images because it might >> Just click on images because it might pull up old school pictures. pull up old school pictures. pull up old school pictures. >> I mean, I can't wait to if if Sal's >> I mean, I can't wait to if if Sal's >> I mean, I can't wait to if if Sal's talking about this new technology. You talking about this new technology. You talking about this new technology. You put that powder in there. That thing put that powder in there. That thing put that powder in there. That thing already tastes like ice cream. It's already tastes like ice cream. It's already tastes like ice cream. It's going to be amazing, going to be amazing, going to be amazing, >> right? I mean, yeah. Just >> right? I mean, yeah. Just >> right? I mean, yeah. Just >> Oh, there it Oh, and then there was that >> Oh, there it Oh, and then there was that >> Oh, there it Oh, and then there was that one. That's right. Mike Menser was on one. That's right. Mike Menser was on one. That's right. Mike Menser was on the picture of that. I also bought that the picture of that. I also bought that the picture of that. I also bought that one. Boy, this is bringing back one. Boy, this is bringing back one. Boy, this is bringing back memories. memories. memories. >> Dynamic weight [laughter] gainer. >> Dynamic weight [laughter] gainer. >> Dynamic weight [laughter] gainer. >> That one's a weight gainer. And it was >> That one's a weight gainer. And it was >> That one's a weight gainer. And it was just, you know what it was? It was just, you know what it was? It was just, you know what it was? It was protein and dextrose. That's how they protein and dextrose. That's how they protein and dextrose. That's how they made the calories. A lot of dextrose made the calories. A lot of dextrose made the calories. A lot of dextrose a sugar bomb a sugar bomb a sugar bomb >> of dextrose in there. And >> of dextrose in there. And >> of dextrose in there. And >> that's hilarious. This one right here >> that's hilarious. This one right here >> that's hilarious. This one right here maybe. maybe. maybe. >> Uh, which one? >> Uh, which one? >> Uh, which one? >> Weight gainer. >> Weight gainer. >> Weight gainer. >> Now, it had a picture of him on the >> Now, it had a picture of him on the >> Now, it had a picture of him on the cover and it was cover and it was cover and it was >> You know what's funny though? As he's >> You know what's funny though? As he's >> You know what's funny though? As he's going through all these, I think I had going through all these, I think I had going through all these, I think I had most of these. most of these. most of these. >> Every single one. >> Every single one. >> Every single one. >> I think I tried. >> I think I tried. >> I think I tried. >> There is a one there that I didn't try. >> There is a one there that I didn't try. >> There is a one there that I didn't try. >> Most of them. >> Most of them. >> Most of them. >> Yeah. Oh, there you go. Dynamic weight, >> Yeah. Oh, there you go. Dynamic weight, >> Yeah. Oh, there you go. Dynamic weight, >> bro. Look at that. >> bro. Look at that. >> bro. Look at that. >> I could taste it right now. [laughter] >> I could taste it right now. [laughter] >> I could taste it right now. [laughter] >> I swear to you guys. Don't leave it in >> I swear to you guys. Don't leave it in >> I swear to you guys. Don't leave it in your your your >> Does it still exist? Can you still get >> Does it still exist? Can you still get >> Does it still exist? Can you still get it? it? it? >> No, I can't think so. You still can't >> No, I can't think so. You still can't >> No, I can't think so. You still can't get it, right? get it, right? get it, right? >> No, that's in the N. Wow, look at that, >> No, that's in the N. Wow, look at that, >> No, that's in the N. Wow, look at that, dude. dude. dude. >> I actually You want to know what's >> I actually You want to know what's >> I actually You want to know what's crazy? crazy? crazy? >> What is it in, Sal? Looks like it's in >> What is it in, Sal? Looks like it's in >> What is it in, Sal? Looks like it's in like a That's a beer can. like a That's a beer can. like a That's a beer can. >> It does. >> It does. >> It does. >> Oh, that's a ready to drink. >> Oh, that's a ready to drink. >> Oh, that's a ready to drink. >> Yeah. No, mine was in a It was like in a >> Yeah. No, mine was in a It was like in a >> Yeah. No, mine was in a It was like in a >> They actually did those in ready to >> They actually did those in ready to >> They actually did those in ready to drink. drink. drink. >> It was like a cart. I didn't have it >> It was like a cart. I didn't have it >> It was like a cart. I didn't have it like that. It was in a carton with like like that. It was in a carton with like like that. It was in a carton with like a plastic lid that you peeled off. a plastic lid that you peeled off. a plastic lid that you peeled off. >> Look like an oatmeal. >> Look like an oatmeal. >> Look like an oatmeal. >> And it didn't even have a scoop. You had >> And it didn't even have a scoop. You had >> And it didn't even have a scoop. You had to use a tablespoon. to use a tablespoon. to use a tablespoon. >> Oh, it didn't have >> Oh, it didn't have >> Oh, it didn't have >> So, it tell you how many tablespoons. >> So, it tell you how many tablespoons. >> So, it tell you how many tablespoons. Oh, that was like a huge that was like a Oh, that was like a huge that was like a Oh, that was like a huge that was like a huge invention when they started putting huge invention when they started putting huge invention when they started putting the plastic scoop inside there. the plastic scoop inside there. the plastic scoop inside there. >> Dude, talk about that. You know what's >> Dude, talk about that. You know what's >> Dude, talk about that. You know what's funny? They never solve Did they Did any funny? They never solve Did they Did any funny? They never solve Did they Did any company ever solve company ever solve company ever solve >> the the that you lose it at the bottom? >> the the that you lose it at the bottom? >> the the that you lose it at the bottom? >> Yes. That you don't that you that you'd >> Yes. That you don't that you that you'd >> Yes. That you don't that you that you'd have it at the top always. have it at the top always. have it at the top always. >> Yeah, they they solved it. >> Yeah, they they solved it. >> Yeah, they they solved it. >> I don't know who did, but it's they put >> I don't know who did, but it's they put >> I don't know who did, but it's they put the long hood the long handle. No, the the long hood the long handle. No, the the long hood the long handle. No, the long handle cuz no matter what, you long handle cuz no matter what, you long handle cuz no matter what, you could grab the handle. could grab the handle. could grab the handle. >> The long handle. >> The long handle. >> The long handle. >> I tried that one. I used That's the one >> I tried that one. I used That's the one >> I tried that one. I used That's the one I used on the very right. Vintage Joe I used on the very right. Vintage Joe I used on the very right. Vintage Joe Weer. Weer. Weer. >> The dynamic muscle builder. >> The dynamic muscle builder. >> The dynamic muscle builder. >> Dynamic muscle builder. Oh my god. >> Dynamic muscle builder. Oh my god. >> Dynamic muscle builder. Oh my god. >> You know what's funny, too? So, I was I >> You know what's funny, too? So, I was I >> You know what's funny, too? So, I was I was young, right? was young, right? was young, right? >> And so, I went into my parents like >> And so, I went into my parents like >> And so, I went into my parents like medicine cabinet or whatever. Not medicine cabinet or whatever. Not medicine cabinet or whatever. Not medicine cabinet, but like they have medicine cabinet, but like they have medicine cabinet, but like they have like a cabinet in the kitchen where like a cabinet in the kitchen where like a cabinet in the kitchen where they'll have like supplements and stuff. they'll have like supplements and stuff. they'll have like supplements and stuff. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I grabbed it and I was like kind of >> And I grabbed it and I was like kind of >> And I grabbed it and I was like kind of like sneaking it, like sneaking it, like sneaking it, >> mixing it up too. [laughter] >> mixing it up too. [laughter] >> mixing it up too. [laughter] >> Nobody will know, dude. >> Nobody will know, dude. >> Nobody will know, dude. >> You know, hey, talking about stuff that >> You know, hey, talking about stuff that >> You know, hey, talking about stuff that tastes uh like that doesn't t that tastes uh like that doesn't t that tastes uh like that doesn't t that tastes amazing that we have as one of tastes amazing that we have as one of tastes amazing that we have as one of our partners. I am on the lemonade iced our partners. I am on the lemonade iced our partners. I am on the lemonade iced tea kick fulfillment. So, good. They so tea kick fulfillment. So, good. They so tea kick fulfillment. So, good. They so I don't know did you guys get um I I don't know did you guys get um I I don't know did you guys get um I thought we all got one of those package thought we all got one of those package thought we all got one of those package with Yeah. with Yeah. with Yeah. >> Yeah. And they had the little you know >> Yeah. And they had the little you know >> Yeah. And they had the little you know iced tea thing. So state and we keep in iced tea thing. So state and we keep in iced tea thing. So state and we keep in the refrigerator now uh one of those the refrigerator now uh one of those the refrigerator now uh one of those filled up with the lemonade. filled up with the lemonade. filled up with the lemonade. >> So good. It is so refresh. The move is >> So good. It is so refresh. The move is >> So good. It is so refresh. The move is to make So I believe it calls for three to make So I believe it calls for three to make So I believe it calls for three packets and then you fill up the the packets and then you fill up the the packets and then you fill up the the whole thing. Yeah. And I fill it up and whole thing. Yeah. And I fill it up and whole thing. Yeah. And I fill it up and then I pour that over ice and it is and then I pour that over ice and it is and then I pour that over ice and it is and it's got a little bit of caffeine in it it's got a little bit of caffeine in it it's got a little bit of caffeine in it too. So, it's like a nice little cap. too. So, it's like a nice little cap. too. So, it's like a nice little cap. It's not a lot It's not a lot It's not a lot >> per serving. 50. >> per serving. 50. >> per serving. 50. >> I think it's 50. >> I think it's 50. >> I think it's 50. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Is that You got it right there. Yeah. 50 >> Is that You got it right there. Yeah. 50 >> Is that You got it right there. Yeah. 50 millig. millig. millig. >> Yeah, I think 60 actually. >> Yeah, I think 60 actually. >> Yeah, I think 60 actually. >> It says 50, but it say Yeah, it says 50. >> It says 50, but it say Yeah, it says 50. >> It says 50, but it say Yeah, it says 50. >> So, it's 50 milligs per packet. So, it's >> So, it's 50 milligs per packet. So, it's >> So, it's 50 milligs per packet. So, it's like a little It's like a tiny shot of like a little It's like a tiny shot of like a little It's like a tiny shot of espresso essentially. espresso essentially. espresso essentially. >> Reminds me of when I used to tastes >> Reminds me of when I used to tastes >> Reminds me of when I used to tastes good. good. good. >> Yeah, the Arnold Palmer. I used to be on >> Yeah, the Arnold Palmer. I used to be on >> Yeah, the Arnold Palmer. I used to be on a kick of those a long time ago and they a kick of those a long time ago and they a kick of those a long time ago and they kind of totally resemble kind of totally resemble kind of totally resemble >> That's what it kind of reminds me of. >> That's what it kind of reminds me of. >> That's what it kind of reminds me of. It's It's a like it's a very It's summer It's It's a like it's a very It's summer It's It's a like it's a very It's summer time right now. We're at the pool all time right now. We're at the pool all time right now. We're at the pool all the time and so it's such a refreshing the time and so it's such a refreshing the time and so it's such a refreshing drink to have and so I'm on that kick drink to have and so I'm on that kick drink to have and so I'm on that kick right now. right now. right now. >> I saw this one post. I wish I saved it, >> I saw this one post. I wish I saved it, >> I saw this one post. I wish I saved it, but there was one supplement on there but there was one supplement on there but there was one supplement on there that I remember. So this guy wrote this that I remember. So this guy wrote this that I remember. So this guy wrote this post and he's like, post and he's like, post and he's like, >> "Here's all the supplements that you >> "Here's all the supplements that you >> "Here's all the supplements that you missed out on." And these were all the missed out on." And these were all the missed out on." And these were all the old school things that are now banned. old school things that are now banned. old school things that are now banned. >> I think I saw that post. >> I think I saw that post. >> I think I saw that post. >> Did you see it? >> Did you see it? >> Did you see it? >> I think I saw that post. >> I think I saw that post. >> I think I saw that post. >> These were all old school supplements >> These were all old school supplements >> These were all old school supplements that were banned. Yeah. that were banned. Yeah. that were banned. Yeah. >> And there was one supplement in the '9s >> And there was one supplement in the '9s >> And there was one supplement in the '9s called uh Hot Stuff. Do you remember Hot called uh Hot Stuff. Do you remember Hot called uh Hot Stuff. Do you remember Hot Stuff? [laughter] Stuff? [laughter] Stuff? [laughter] >> I think I remember that. It was called >> I think I remember that. It was called >> I think I remember that. It was called Hot Stuff and it had a bunch of things Hot Stuff and it had a bunch of things Hot Stuff and it had a bunch of things in it. So, it had all the like like in it. So, it had all the like like in it. So, it had all the like like >> Who made it? >> Who made it? >> Who made it? >> I don't know. Maybe Doug was Twin Labs. >> I don't know. Maybe Doug was Twin Labs. >> I don't know. Maybe Doug was Twin Labs. >> Hot Stuff. >> Hot Stuff. >> Hot Stuff. >> The Hot Stuff. >> The Hot Stuff. >> The Hot Stuff. >> Anyway, it became a cult favorite >> Anyway, it became a cult favorite >> Anyway, it became a cult favorite because people were like, "Dude, you get because people were like, "Dude, you get because people were like, "Dude, you get you get jacked on this." And then they you get jacked on this." And then they you get jacked on this." And then they had to hot hot stuff nutritionals as had to hot hot stuff nutritionals as had to hot hot stuff nutritionals as 1980s and 90s. Click on images. Is 1980s and 90s. Click on images. Is 1980s and 90s. Click on images. Is >> that a word? >> that a word? >> that a word? >> So, the original Hot Stuff is that one >> So, the original Hot Stuff is that one >> So, the original Hot Stuff is that one on the left. on the left. on the left. >> Oh, I seen that one. Okay. >> Oh, I seen that one. Okay. >> Oh, I seen that one. Okay. >> I remember that one. >> I remember that one. >> I remember that one. >> So So you know what? You know what it >> So So you know what? You know what it >> So So you know what? You know what it had? had? had? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. It had pro hormones in there. >> Okay. It had pro hormones in there. >> Okay. It had pro hormones in there. >> It did. >> It did. >> It did. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Pro hormones. Niain, >> Pro hormones. Niain, >> Pro hormones. Niain, >> by the way, everybody, pro hormones. >> by the way, everybody, pro hormones. >> by the way, everybody, pro hormones. They used to use that term to make it They used to use that term to make it They used to use that term to make it sound like it wasn't steroids. sound like it wasn't steroids. sound like it wasn't steroids. >> That's the name because it sounds like >> That's the name because it sounds like >> That's the name because it sounds like it's illegal, like hot stuff. Like it's it's illegal, like hot stuff. Like it's it's illegal, like hot stuff. Like it's Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Well, I don't I mean I don't know. >> Well, I don't I mean I don't know. >> Well, I don't I mean I don't know. >> That's like That's what people call if >> That's like That's what people call if >> That's like That's what people call if you have something that's like stolen or you have something that's like stolen or you have something that's like stolen or >> Yeah. I guess you're right. So, you know >> Yeah. I guess you're right. So, you know >> Yeah. I guess you're right. So, you know what? So, there was this big talk. I'll what? So, there was this big talk. I'll what? So, there was this big talk. I'll never forget this in the ' 90s. never forget this in the ' 90s. never forget this in the ' 90s. Remember, I'm a kid. So, I'm 16. I'm Remember, I'm a kid. So, I'm 16. I'm Remember, I'm a kid. So, I'm 16. I'm working out in gyms and I'm talking to working out in gyms and I'm talking to working out in gyms and I'm talking to the meattheads in there. And one of them the meattheads in there. And one of them the meattheads in there. And one of them brought up the old Oh gosh, you guys brought up the old Oh gosh, you guys brought up the old Oh gosh, you guys remember the old formula? Hot. So, by remember the old formula? Hot. So, by remember the old formula? Hot. So, by this point, Hot Stuff had to change this point, Hot Stuff had to change this point, Hot Stuff had to change their formula, but they were just their formula, but they were just their formula, but they were just talking about how this hot dude, man, I talking about how this hot dude, man, I talking about how this hot dude, man, I put on like 10 pounds of muscle. put on like 10 pounds of muscle. put on like 10 pounds of muscle. >> So, I read this post and and I forgot >> So, I read this post and and I forgot >> So, I read this post and and I forgot all about it, right? I read this post all about it, right? I read this post all about it, right? I read this post and this guy wrote about it and they had and this guy wrote about it and they had and this guy wrote about it and they had thrown designer steroids in there. thrown designer steroids in there. thrown designer steroids in there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, dudes were taking a protein shake >> So, dudes were taking a protein shake >> So, dudes were taking a protein shake and taking steroids [laughter] from and taking steroids [laughter] from and taking steroids [laughter] from working. working. working. >> Yeah. like this stuff is great. >> Yeah. like this stuff is great. >> Yeah. like this stuff is great. >> I mean, that's been that's that's been >> I mean, that's been that's that's been >> I mean, that's been that's that's been the hustle in the supplement industry the hustle in the supplement industry the hustle in the supplement industry for a long time is to is to, you know, for a long time is to is to, you know, for a long time is to is to, you know, change uh cuz basically what what pro change uh cuz basically what what pro change uh cuz basically what what pro hormone stuff is is like they take uh a hormone stuff is is like they take uh a hormone stuff is is like they take uh a steroid and they change it by like one steroid and they change it by like one steroid and they change it by like one molecule and then it's like just just molecule and then it's like just just molecule and then it's like just just off a little bit. off a little bit. off a little bit. >> This is just classic, bro. This is like >> This is just classic, bro. This is like >> This is just classic, bro. This is like this this is the supplement industry, this this is the supplement industry, this this is the supplement industry, the dark side in a nutshell. So real pro the dark side in a nutshell. So real pro the dark side in a nutshell. So real pro hormone is a hormone that is converted hormone is a hormone that is converted hormone is a hormone that is converted to one of the more active hormones. So to one of the more active hormones. So to one of the more active hormones. So like uh andadone is a pro hormone. DHA like uh andadone is a pro hormone. DHA like uh andadone is a pro hormone. DHA you could buy DHA right now. You go to you could buy DHA right now. You go to you could buy DHA right now. You go to the you go to a grocery store the you go to a grocery store the you go to a grocery store >> and in their supplement section they'll >> and in their supplement section they'll >> and in their supplement section they'll have DHA and DHEA has its own benefits have DHA and DHEA has its own benefits have DHA and DHEA has its own benefits but it also goes through two or three but it also goes through two or three but it also goes through two or three conversions and can become you know uh conversions and can become you know uh conversions and can become you know uh testosterone or estrogen or whatever. So testosterone or estrogen or whatever. So testosterone or estrogen or whatever. So that's called a pro hormone. But here's that's called a pro hormone. But here's that's called a pro hormone. But here's what supplement companies did. They went what supplement companies did. They went what supplement companies did. They went through far through pharmaceutical through far through pharmaceutical through far through pharmaceutical companies discarded. companies discarded. companies discarded. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Attempts at making new steroids. >> Attempts at making new steroids. >> Attempts at making new steroids. >> Oh, this one got old. This had side >> Oh, this one got old. This had side >> Oh, this one got old. This had side effects. So, we stopped making this one. effects. So, we stopped making this one. effects. So, we stopped making this one. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> We'll take that. Yeah. Sounds good. And >> We'll take that. Yeah. Sounds good. And >> We'll take that. Yeah. Sounds good. And the [clears throat] reason they weren't the [clears throat] reason they weren't the [clears throat] reason they weren't banned. So, the reason why they could do banned. So, the reason why they could do banned. So, the reason why they could do that and get away with it was it wasn't that and get away with it was it wasn't that and get away with it was it wasn't banned. And then the hustle was you put banned. And then the hustle was you put banned. And then the hustle was you put that in your in your preworkout, you put that in your in your preworkout, you put that in your in your preworkout, you put that in your muscle building stack pill that in your muscle building stack pill that in your muscle building stack pill and people will feel it. And they did. and people will feel it. And they did. and people will feel it. And they did. And they would feel it. And then a run And they would feel it. And then a run And they would feel it. And then a run would happen. Word would get out so would happen. Word would get out so would happen. Word would get out so fast. This is before social media. fast. This is before social media. fast. This is before social media. >> Word on the street would get would >> Word on the street would get would >> Word on the street would get would guess. So I knew would get out guess. So I knew would get out guess. So I knew would get out >> bagger in there >> bagger in there >> bagger in there >> and you would be you would be running >> and you would be you would be running >> and you would be you would be running down and you would buy by bye-bye. Then down and you would buy by bye-bye. Then down and you would buy by bye-bye. Then eventually someone would test it and eventually someone would test it and eventually someone would test it and find out it's got some of this illegal find out it's got some of this illegal find out it's got some of this illegal stuff in it or not illegal banned yet. stuff in it or not illegal banned yet. stuff in it or not illegal banned yet. And then they would get raided and get And then they would get raided and get And then they would get raided and get in trouble. And then all those stores in trouble. And then all those stores in trouble. And then all those stores would put it under the counter would put it under the counter would put it under the counter >> cuz they had they had they had it >> cuz they had they had they had it >> cuz they had they had they had it stocked up still. And so you'd have to stocked up still. And so you'd have to stocked up still. And so you'd have to ask for the under the counter stuff ask for the under the counter stuff ask for the under the counter stuff until they ran out of that and then it until they ran out of that and then it until they ran out of that and then it and then it was on to the next one and and then it was on to the next one and and then it was on to the next one and then it was just new name, new new new then it was just new name, new new new then it was just new name, new new new formulation that wasn't banned yet. Do formulation that wasn't banned yet. Do formulation that wasn't banned yet. Do you want to know what's so and we wonder you want to know what's so and we wonder you want to know what's so and we wonder why we're where I have to take hormone why we're where I have to take hormone why we're where I have to take hormone therapy? [laughter] therapy? [laughter] therapy? [laughter] >> You wonder what happened. >> You wonder what happened. >> You wonder what happened. >> Do you know you Okay, so one of the >> Do you know you Okay, so one of the >> Do you know you Okay, so one of the popular ones uh back then was was called popular ones uh back then was was called popular ones uh back then was was called Super Draw. Remember Superdraw? Super Draw. Remember Superdraw? Super Draw. Remember Superdraw? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You want to know what's crazy about >> You want to know what's crazy about >> You want to know what's crazy about Superdraw? So Super Draw now is illegal. Superdraw? So Super Draw now is illegal. Superdraw? So Super Draw now is illegal. So uh people buy it on the black market. So uh people buy it on the black market. So uh people buy it on the black market. Powerlifters uh prefer Superdraw over Powerlifters uh prefer Superdraw over Powerlifters uh prefer Superdraw over the classics like Anadrol. the classics like Anadrol. the classics like Anadrol. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Cuz it's stronger. This was what you >> Cuz it's stronger. This was what you >> Cuz it's stronger. This was what you could buy at the store. could buy at the store. could buy at the store. >> I There was a there was a thing called >> I There was a there was a thing called >> I There was a there was a thing called >> There was a thing called Trenx or there >> There was a thing called Trenx or there >> There was a thing called Trenx or there basically a a supplement that was like basically a a supplement that was like basically a a supplement that was like some sort of precursor to Yeah. to Tren some sort of precursor to Yeah. to Tren some sort of precursor to Yeah. to Tren >> that I liked and I tried the real thing. >> that I liked and I tried the real thing. >> that I liked and I tried the real thing. I liked the the the pill form from the I liked the the the pill form from the I liked the the the pill form from the supplement. it would felt stronger than supplement. it would felt stronger than supplement. it would felt stronger than the actual steroid, you know, which is the actual steroid, you know, which is the actual steroid, you know, which is crazy to think that, you know. So, no, crazy to think that, you know. So, no, crazy to think that, you know. So, no, there's been there was examples of, there's been there was examples of, there's been there was examples of, >> you know, pro hormone or supplements >> you know, pro hormone or supplements >> you know, pro hormone or supplements that I've taken in the past that I was that I've taken in the past that I was that I've taken in the past that I was like that felt like a real steroid. like that felt like a real steroid. like that felt like a real steroid. >> You know, what feels like that now is >> You know, what feels like that now is >> You know, what feels like that now is the the kind of gray market for peptides the the kind of gray market for peptides the the kind of gray market for peptides is like goes down that route, right? is like goes down that route, right? is like goes down that route, right? Playing the game of Playing the game of Playing the game of >> whatever. >> whatever. >> whatever. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> I know, dude. So, it's so it's so crazy >> I know, dude. So, it's so it's so crazy >> I know, dude. So, it's so it's so crazy to me. Anyway, I got a cool to me. Anyway, I got a cool to me. Anyway, I got a cool >> I got a cool study. Let me see if I can >> I got a cool study. Let me see if I can >> I got a cool study. Let me see if I can find it on um the effects of strength find it on um the effects of strength find it on um the effects of strength training on the elderly. This was a training on the elderly. This was a training on the elderly. This was a study that was done in 1988. study that was done in 1988. study that was done in 1988. So, this is a crazy study. So, trip off So, this is a crazy study. So, trip off So, this is a crazy study. So, trip off this. this. this. >> So, in 1988, there's a doctor in Boston >> So, in 1988, there's a doctor in Boston >> So, in 1988, there's a doctor in Boston who wanted to teach the oldest, frailst who wanted to teach the oldest, frailst who wanted to teach the oldest, frailst people to lift weights, to try to get people to lift weights, to try to get people to lift weights, to try to get stronger. And in 1988, nobody tried stronger. And in 1988, nobody tried stronger. And in 1988, nobody tried this. So, nobody had done this before. this. So, nobody had done this before. this. So, nobody had done this before. Did you find it, Doug? Did you find it, Doug? Did you find it, Doug? >> Uh yeah. Do you see that? >> Uh yeah. Do you see that? >> Uh yeah. Do you see that? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Googler. Googler. Googler. >> Oh man, how'd you get that? >> Oh man, how'd you get that? >> Oh man, how'd you get that? >> Yeah, just amazing. >> Yeah, just amazing. >> Yeah, just amazing. >> Did I send that to you? >> Did I send that to you? >> Did I send that to you? >> No, the link was already in the in the >> No, the link was already in the in the >> No, the link was already in the in the show notes. show notes. show notes. >> Oh, my bad. [laughter] Okay. All right. >> Oh, my bad. [laughter] Okay. All right. >> Oh, my bad. [laughter] Okay. All right. All right. All right. All right. >> So So should have stole that credit. You >> So So should have stole that credit. You >> So So should have stole that credit. You should have stole that credit. should have stole that credit. should have stole that credit. >> First off, credit to this doctor in 1988 >> First off, credit to this doctor in 1988 >> First off, credit to this doctor in 1988 when in 1988, the last thing that any when in 1988, the last thing that any when in 1988, the last thing that any doctor would tell a frail old person to doctor would tell a frail old person to doctor would tell a frail old person to do was lift weights. Like, oh my god, do was lift weights. Like, oh my god, do was lift weights. Like, oh my god, how dare you? You're going to hurt them. how dare you? You're going to hurt them. how dare you? You're going to hurt them. But they did anyway. So they did it at But they did anyway. So they did it at But they did anyway. So they did it at the Hebrew Rehabilitation Center for the Hebrew Rehabilitation Center for the Hebrew Rehabilitation Center for aged uh for the aged. The residents aged uh for the aged. The residents aged uh for the aged. The residents average age, you want to get, you want average age, you want to get, you want average age, you want to get, you want to hear? 88. to hear? 88. to hear? 88. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> So these were like old people. Yeah. >> So these were like old people. Yeah. >> So these were like old people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. All of them had multiple chronic >> Okay. All of them had multiple chronic >> Okay. All of them had multiple chronic diseases and then frailty and falls were diseases and then frailty and falls were diseases and then frailty and falls were like facts of life. like facts of life. like facts of life. >> Six women and three men completed an >> Six women and three men completed an >> Six women and three men completed an 8week training program. So it's like one 8week training program. So it's like one 8week training program. So it's like one of the first studies on strength of the first studies on strength of the first studies on strength training and the elderly. We have much training and the elderly. We have much training and the elderly. We have much better ones now. They did one exercise, better ones now. They did one exercise, better ones now. They did one exercise, three sets of eight reps three times a three sets of eight reps three times a three sets of eight reps three times a week. Here's what they found. You ready week. Here's what they found. You ready week. Here's what they found. You ready for this? This was published in the for this? This was published in the for this? This was published in the Journal of the American uh medical um Journal of the American uh medical um Journal of the American uh medical um society. society. society. the minimum strength gain. So of all of the minimum strength gain. So of all of the minimum strength gain. So of all of those people that did it, remember those people that did it, remember those people that did it, remember average age 88, minimum strength gain average age 88, minimum strength gain average age 88, minimum strength gain was 61%. Average strength was 61%. Average strength was 61%. Average strength >> 61 [clears throat] >> 61 [clears throat] >> 61 [clears throat] >> average strength gain was 174%. The >> average strength gain was 174%. The >> average strength gain was 174%. The maximum strength gain was 374%. maximum strength gain was 374%. maximum strength gain was 374%. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Holy crap. >> Holy crap. >> Holy crap. >> Zero zero injuries >> Zero zero injuries >> Zero zero injuries >> over what period of time? >> over what period of time? >> over what period of time? >> Uh this was done, let's see, eight >> Uh this was done, let's see, eight >> Uh this was done, let's see, eight weeks. weeks. weeks. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Eight weeks a >> Eight weeks a >> Eight weeks a >> zero injuries gains. One of the one of >> zero injuries gains. One of the one of >> zero injuries gains. One of the one of the people in there, Dorothy Tishler, the people in there, Dorothy Tishler, the people in there, Dorothy Tishler, she was 92. She said, "I became younger she was 92. She said, "I became younger she was 92. She said, "I became younger five years ago. I could I could hardly five years ago. I could I could hardly five years ago. I could I could hardly walk. Now I can walk better than my walk. Now I can walk better than my walk. Now I can walk better than my daughter who's 72." daughter who's 72." daughter who's 72." >> And this is because >> And this is because >> And this is because >> better than my daughter who's 72. That's >> better than my daughter who's 72. That's >> better than my daughter who's 72. That's >> crazy. That is crazy. >> crazy. That is crazy. >> crazy. That is crazy. >> So, and now now here's the deal. Like, >> So, and now now here's the deal. Like, >> So, and now now here's the deal. Like, by the way, like that back then. by the way, like that back then. by the way, like that back then. >> The the your potential for strength is >> The the your potential for strength is >> The the your potential for strength is reduced when you get older. So, this is reduced when you get older. So, this is reduced when you get older. So, this is where people get like confused, right? where people get like confused, right? where people get like confused, right? Because you're like, "What? 300% Because you're like, "What? 300% Because you're like, "What? 300% increase in strength?" But you're 90. increase in strength?" But you're 90. increase in strength?" But you're 90. Yeah. Yeah. A 90-year-old is not going Yeah. Yeah. A 90-year-old is not going Yeah. Yeah. A 90-year-old is not going to get the the peak strength levels to get the the peak strength levels to get the the peak strength levels after from training that a 20-year-old after from training that a 20-year-old after from training that a 20-year-old will. That's true. The the top is is is will. That's true. The the top is is is will. That's true. The the top is is is definitely minimized, but the potential definitely minimized, but the potential definitely minimized, but the potential to gain strength is still there and the to gain strength is still there and the to gain strength is still there and the potential to build muscle is still potential to build muscle is still potential to build muscle is still there. And 300% increase in strength there. And 300% increase in strength there. And 300% increase in strength sounds crazy, but when you're talking sounds crazy, but when you're talking sounds crazy, but when you're talking about somebody about somebody about somebody >> super frail, >> super frail, >> super frail, >> who can't stand up without assistance, >> who can't stand up without assistance, >> who can't stand up without assistance, to be able to stand up without to be able to stand up without to be able to stand up without assistance, that's a 300% increase. assistance, that's a 300% increase. assistance, that's a 300% increase. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> And a lot of people there's >> And a lot of people there's >> And a lot of people there's >> nothing but improvement there. one of my >> nothing but improvement there. one of my >> nothing but improvement there. one of my favorite, it was one of my favorite uh favorite, it was one of my favorite uh favorite, it was one of my favorite uh demographics to train because, demographics to train because, demographics to train because, >> you know, as a trainer um and I love >> you know, as a trainer um and I love >> you know, as a trainer um and I love training people training people training people >> because you you see people's lives >> because you you see people's lives >> because you you see people's lives improve and you get to be a part of that improve and you get to be a part of that improve and you get to be a part of that and it's super rewarding. But nothing and it's super rewarding. But nothing and it's super rewarding. But nothing was more rewarding. I mean, people was more rewarding. I mean, people was more rewarding. I mean, people losing weight is rewarding. People like, losing weight is rewarding. People like, losing weight is rewarding. People like, you know, getting stronger is rewarding. you know, getting stronger is rewarding. you know, getting stronger is rewarding. You know, I got in shape, that's super You know, I got in shape, that's super You know, I got in shape, that's super rewarding. You know, my 40-year-old rewarding. You know, my 40-year-old rewarding. You know, my 40-year-old clients, 50-y old client, that's great. clients, 50-y old client, that's great. clients, 50-y old client, that's great. But when I had my 90-year-old clients But when I had my 90-year-old clients But when I had my 90-year-old clients like like like >> bringing life back to them, >> bringing life back to them, >> bringing life back to them, >> I have I had a full-time nurse. Now I >> I have I had a full-time nurse. Now I >> I have I had a full-time nurse. Now I don't anymore. Yeah, that's don't anymore. Yeah, that's don't anymore. Yeah, that's >> Well, we're we're really part of the >> Well, we're we're really part of the >> Well, we're we're really part of the generation um like the generation before generation um like the generation before generation um like the generation before us, it wasn't popular when they were us, it wasn't popular when they were us, it wasn't popular when they were kids to work out. It wasn't it was it kids to work out. It wasn't it was it kids to work out. It wasn't it was it it's only become popular now. And so it's only become popular now. And so it's only become popular now. And so >> I had a I wish I could put a number to >> I had a I wish I could put a number to >> I had a I wish I could put a number to it, but a large percentage of my clients it, but a large percentage of my clients it, but a large percentage of my clients uh above 55 could would say things like, uh above 55 could would say things like, uh above 55 could would say things like, "I'm in the best shape of my life." "I'm in the best shape of my life." "I'm in the best shape of my life." >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> And they're 55, 60, 65. I'm in the best >> And they're 55, 60, 65. I'm in the best >> And they're 55, 60, 65. I'm in the best shape of my life. And now a lot of that shape of my life. And now a lot of that shape of my life. And now a lot of that is because that they weren't introduced is because that they weren't introduced is because that they weren't introduced to strength training at all. It wasn't to strength training at all. It wasn't to strength training at all. It wasn't it wasn't in vogue in the back in in it wasn't in vogue in the back in in it wasn't in vogue in the back in in those times, right? And so them them those times, right? And so them them those times, right? And so them them getting introduced even though they're getting introduced even though they're getting introduced even though they're older and when they first come to me older and when they first come to me older and when they first come to me thinking like is it possible for me thinking like is it possible for me thinking like is it possible for me still to build muscle? Is it? It's like still to build muscle? Is it? It's like still to build muscle? Is it? It's like absolutely especially considering absolutely especially considering absolutely especially considering >> we haven't done any of that stuff. The >> we haven't done any of that stuff. The >> we haven't done any of that stuff. The potential is still huge. Yeah. you you potential is still huge. Yeah. you you potential is still huge. Yeah. you you you obviously if you would have started you obviously if you would have started you obviously if you would have started this when you were 25, you could have this when you were 25, you could have this when you were 25, you could have seen potentially higher deadlift numbers seen potentially higher deadlift numbers seen potentially higher deadlift numbers and squat numbers. But if you've never and squat numbers. But if you've never and squat numbers. But if you've never lifted weights, even if you never lift lifted weights, even if you never lift lifted weights, even if you never lift weights and you're all the way to 70 or weights and you're all the way to 70 or weights and you're all the way to 70 or 80 and then you start lifting weights, 80 and then you start lifting weights, 80 and then you start lifting weights, the potential of how much you can build, the potential of how much you can build, the potential of how much you can build, >> it's also just life-changing. It impacts >> it's also just life-changing. It impacts >> it's also just life-changing. It impacts your life. I I'll never for I had a your life. I I'll never for I had a your life. I I'll never for I had a client Kim. She was uh in her late 80s client Kim. She was uh in her late 80s client Kim. She was uh in her late 80s and when she hire her daughter hired me and when she hire her daughter hired me and when she hire her daughter hired me to train her and you know she was frail. to train her and you know she was frail. to train her and you know she was frail. She's like you know like your typical She's like you know like your typical She's like you know like your typical late 80 never lifted weights and late 80 never lifted weights and late 80 never lifted weights and [snorts] I remember our first session uh [snorts] I remember our first session uh [snorts] I remember our first session uh she came in in a walker and I had her we she came in in a walker and I had her we she came in in a walker and I had her we had her sit on a bench and so I'd have had her sit on a bench and so I'd have had her sit on a bench and so I'd have to like kind of assist her and sit down to like kind of assist her and sit down to like kind of assist her and sit down and the first exercises were no weight and the first exercises were no weight and the first exercises were no weight knee extensions. So she'd like lift her knee extensions. So she'd like lift her knee extensions. So she'd like lift her leg and like extend her leg. I'd have leg and like extend her leg. I'd have leg and like extend her leg. I'd have her just reach up as high as she could her just reach up as high as she could her just reach up as high as she could uh and hold for tension. The first time uh and hold for tension. The first time uh and hold for tension. The first time we did uh where I had her stand up. Um we did uh where I had her stand up. Um we did uh where I had her stand up. Um she would hold on to my hands and I'd she would hold on to my hands and I'd she would hold on to my hands and I'd have her lean forward and she'd really have her lean forward and she'd really have her lean forward and she'd really just with a lot of strength come up and just with a lot of strength come up and just with a lot of strength come up and that was it. One rep. that was it. One rep. that was it. One rep. >> Months later she was doing 15 20 reps >> Months later she was doing 15 20 reps >> Months later she was doing 15 20 reps standing and sitting, standing and standing and sitting, standing and standing and sitting, standing and sitting. Uh and we almost got her to the sitting. Uh and we almost got her to the sitting. Uh and we almost got her to the point where she didn't need her walker point where she didn't need her walker point where she didn't need her walker anymore, which is anymore, which is anymore, which is >> crazyassive when she had been using that >> crazyassive when she had been using that >> crazyassive when she had been using that thing for years. Yeah, I I remember thing for years. Yeah, I I remember thing for years. Yeah, I I remember having clients that we we starting was having clients that we we starting was having clients that we we starting was they would use me assisted to sit up and they would use me assisted to sit up and they would use me assisted to sit up and sit down. So like that was our session. sit down. So like that was our session. sit down. So like that was our session. Like it was this is we do a little bit Like it was this is we do a little bit Like it was this is we do a little bit of mobility stuff to get going and then of mobility stuff to get going and then of mobility stuff to get going and then it would be like this is all we're doing it would be like this is all we're doing it would be like this is all we're doing for the entire was getting enough for the entire was getting enough for the entire was getting enough strength to do that with long rest strength to do that with long rest strength to do that with long rest periods in between and then to watch periods in between and then to watch periods in between and then to watch that person who needs your assistance to that person who needs your assistance to that person who needs your assistance to just get up and down from to be able to just get up and down from to be able to just get up and down from to be able to do that themselves or to be you know leg do that themselves or to be you know leg do that themselves or to be you know leg pressing or doing weight or you know pressing or doing weight or you know pressing or doing weight or you know actually weight on their back is just actually weight on their back is just actually weight on their back is just the thing the thing the thing >> to see their change cuz you'll see this >> to see their change cuz you'll see this >> to see their change cuz you'll see this in the data uh cognitive function in the data uh cognitive function in the data uh cognitive function improves improves improves uh attitude and mood Move, improve. uh attitude and mood Move, improve. uh attitude and mood Move, improve. >> Uh, we have a client here. Um, I I'll >> Uh, we have a client here. Um, I I'll >> Uh, we have a client here. Um, I I'll say I won't say her last name, Jean. You say I won't say her last name, Jean. You say I won't say her last name, Jean. You guys know Jean. guys know Jean. guys know Jean. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> And we call her Mean Jean because she's >> And we call her Mean Jean because she's >> And we call her Mean Jean because she's been here now. How long has Jean been been here now. How long has Jean been been here now. How long has Jean been here now? Training with who she train here now? Training with who she train here now? Training with who she train with? with? with? >> Six months, two years. >> Six months, two years. >> Six months, two years. >> Did you train with Tyler? >> Did you train with Tyler? >> Did you train with Tyler? >> Tyler. Okay. So, Jean comes in and love >> Tyler. Okay. So, Jean comes in and love >> Tyler. Okay. So, Jean comes in and love her to death. And so, she would come in her to death. And so, she would come in her to death. And so, she would come in and she would kind of be looking kind of and she would kind of be looking kind of and she would kind of be looking kind of crouchy, like in a bad mood, you know, crouchy, like in a bad mood, you know, crouchy, like in a bad mood, you know, whatever. And we tease her and have fun whatever. And we tease her and have fun whatever. And we tease her and have fun with her, whatever. And I'm used to it with her, whatever. And I'm used to it with her, whatever. And I'm used to it like when when I had my studio and like when when I had my studio and like when when I had my studio and people would come in for the first time, people would come in for the first time, people would come in for the first time, they do the thing and some of them kind they do the thing and some of them kind they do the thing and some of them kind of like I don't I don't necessarily want of like I don't I don't necessarily want of like I don't I don't necessarily want to be here. I have to kind of deal kind to be here. I have to kind of deal kind to be here. I have to kind of deal kind of attitude. of attitude. of attitude. >> She's prickly, I would say. >> She's prickly, I would say. >> She's prickly, I would say. >> How many months now has he she been with >> How many months now has he she been with >> How many months now has he she been with Tyler? Tyler? Tyler? >> I say six to nine. I don't know. >> I say six to nine. I don't know. >> I say six to nine. I don't know. >> Yeah. Less than a year. Less than a >> Yeah. Less than a year. Less than a >> Yeah. Less than a year. Less than a year. year. year. >> She's got the biggest smile every time >> She's got the biggest smile every time >> She's got the biggest smile every time now. now. now. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Her attitude and m completely changed. >> Her attitude and m completely changed. >> Her attitude and m completely changed. >> Complete 180. >> Complete 180. >> Complete 180. >> She's got like the happiest face ever. I >> She's got like the happiest face ever. I >> She's got like the happiest face ever. I remember the first time I talked to her, remember the first time I talked to her, remember the first time I talked to her, she was kind of like, "Why aren't you she was kind of like, "Why aren't you she was kind of like, "Why aren't you guys open all the time? I want to come guys open all the time? I want to come guys open all the time? 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How can we help you, man? man? man? >> I'm gonna I'll start reading the email >> I'm gonna I'll start reading the email >> I'm gonna I'll start reading the email that I sent you. that I sent you. that I sent you. First of all, love the podcast. um 55 First of all, love the podcast. um 55 First of all, love the podcast. um 55 years old, decided to start my health years old, decided to start my health years old, decided to start my health journey in September of 2024. I went for journey in September of 2024. I went for journey in September of 2024. I went for my yearly physical and my numbers were my yearly physical and my numbers were my yearly physical and my numbers were all going in the wrong direction. My all going in the wrong direction. My all going in the wrong direction. My cholesterol was high, elevated blood cholesterol was high, elevated blood cholesterol was high, elevated blood pressure, elevated A1C. pressure, elevated A1C. pressure, elevated A1C. I'm 5'9. I weighed 230 lbs at that time. I'm 5'9. I weighed 230 lbs at that time. I'm 5'9. I weighed 230 lbs at that time. Uh I told my doctor I'd start Uh I told my doctor I'd start Uh I told my doctor I'd start intermittent fasting and eating better. intermittent fasting and eating better. intermittent fasting and eating better. Come back in six months. I went back in Come back in six months. I went back in Come back in six months. I went back in March of 2025. I had gotten down to 217 March of 2025. I had gotten down to 217 March of 2025. I had gotten down to 217 lbs. Uh, most of that was I cut out all lbs. Uh, most of that was I cut out all lbs. Uh, most of that was I cut out all starches and sugar, was exercising a starches and sugar, was exercising a starches and sugar, was exercising a little bit, and intermittent fasting little bit, and intermittent fasting little bit, and intermittent fasting helped cuz I'm a truck driver, so I helped cuz I'm a truck driver, so I helped cuz I'm a truck driver, so I wasn't eating, you know, when I got home wasn't eating, you know, when I got home wasn't eating, you know, when I got home at night. Uh, so for the next 6 months at night. Uh, so for the next 6 months at night. Uh, so for the next 6 months from March until around August, I was from March until around August, I was from March until around August, I was just back and forth from like 217 to just back and forth from like 217 to just back and forth from like 217 to 224, 224, 224, really not losing any more weight. uh in really not losing any more weight. uh in really not losing any more weight. uh in August of 2025 went back to the doctor. August of 2025 went back to the doctor. August of 2025 went back to the doctor. My levels had come down but they still My levels had come down but they still My levels had come down but they still weren't normal and uh that was when the weren't normal and uh that was when the weren't normal and uh that was when the GLP1 was recommended. Uh so he GLP1 was recommended. Uh so he GLP1 was recommended. Uh so he prescribed that uh 2.5bound. prescribed that uh 2.5bound. prescribed that uh 2.5bound. I didn't start it until October because I didn't start it until October because I didn't start it until October because I wanted to do the research myself and I wanted to do the research myself and I wanted to do the research myself and really just look into it because I really just look into it because I really just look into it because I wasn't sure about it. Um did a lot of wasn't sure about it. Um did a lot of wasn't sure about it. Um did a lot of research on the internet. That's when I research on the internet. That's when I research on the internet. That's when I found you guys. And uh we started found you guys. And uh we started found you guys. And uh we started decided to start taking it in October of decided to start taking it in October of decided to start taking it in October of 2025. Started with 2.5 milligrams for 2025. Started with 2.5 milligrams for 2025. Started with 2.5 milligrams for the first month. Went up to 5.5 the first month. Went up to 5.5 the first month. Went up to 5.5 milligrams in November. And then in milligrams in November. And then in milligrams in November. And then in January, I started every other month at January, I started every other month at January, I started every other month at five. Never went above five. And five. Never went above five. And five. Never went above five. And [clears throat] for the last three [clears throat] for the last three [clears throat] for the last three months, I've been doing it once a month. months, I've been doing it once a month. months, I've been doing it once a month. and I've stated 180 lbs. And as of March and I've stated 180 lbs. And as of March and I've stated 180 lbs. And as of March of 2026, on my 55th birthday, all my of 2026, on my 55th birthday, all my of 2026, on my 55th birthday, all my levels were normal. First time my blood levels were normal. First time my blood levels were normal. First time my blood work has been normal in probably 30 work has been normal in probably 30 work has been normal in probably 30 years. So years. So years. So >> stuff. That's great. Congrats, man. >> stuff. That's great. Congrats, man. >> stuff. That's great. Congrats, man. That's awesome. That's awesome. That's awesome. >> Yeah. Thank you. So, what I'm looking >> Yeah. Thank you. So, what I'm looking >> Yeah. Thank you. So, what I'm looking for basically from you guys is a for basically from you guys is a for basically from you guys is a program, something to stay on pace. I program, something to stay on pace. I program, something to stay on pace. I want to lose some body fat. I want to want to lose some body fat. I want to want to lose some body fat. I want to stay around 180, 185 pounds. I really stay around 180, 185 pounds. I really stay around 180, 185 pounds. I really don't want to lose too much more weight. don't want to lose too much more weight. don't want to lose too much more weight. Um, and something that I can just do on Um, and something that I can just do on Um, and something that I can just do on a normal day because I I have a tendency a normal day because I I have a tendency a normal day because I I have a tendency to overdo it once I get into it. So, my to overdo it once I get into it. So, my to overdo it once I get into it. So, my three-day splits are really turning into three-day splits are really turning into three-day splits are really turning into five, six day workouts and yeah, I just five, six day workouts and yeah, I just five, six day workouts and yeah, I just don't want to put don't want to hurt don't want to put don't want to hurt don't want to put don't want to hurt myself at this point. myself at this point. myself at this point. >> Can I make a suggestion, Bobby? >> Can I make a suggestion, Bobby? >> Can I make a suggestion, Bobby? [clears throat] [clears throat] [clears throat] >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Yeah. I think you are light enough on >> Yeah. I think you are light enough on >> Yeah. I think you are light enough on the scale that the focus shouldn't be the scale that the focus shouldn't be the scale that the focus shouldn't be around losing anymore and actually around losing anymore and actually around losing anymore and actually starting to build. And as you build your starting to build. And as you build your starting to build. And as you build your physique, uh, I think you'll lean out physique, uh, I think you'll lean out physique, uh, I think you'll lean out and and reduce body fat. Um, I think 180 and and reduce body fat. Um, I think 180 and and reduce body fat. Um, I think 180 lbs is is plenty light enough and you're lbs is is plenty light enough and you're lbs is is plenty light enough and you're I'm assuming your calories are probably I'm assuming your calories are probably I'm assuming your calories are probably pretty low. pretty low. pretty low. >> Yeah. And in the email, Bobby, it says >> Yeah. And in the email, Bobby, it says >> Yeah. And in the email, Bobby, it says 17 to,900 calories. Is that still 17 to,900 calories. Is that still 17 to,900 calories. Is that still happening? happening? happening? >> I'm I'm over 2,000 now. I'd say I'm >> I'm I'm over 2,000 now. I'd say I'm >> I'm I'm over 2,000 now. I'd say I'm around 2,2100 around 2,2100 around 2,2100 right now. right now. right now. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> It's still a little low. >> It's still a little low. >> It's still a little low. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, tell me about your day. What does >> So, tell me about your day. What does >> So, tell me about your day. What does your activity look like? your activity look like? your activity look like? >> Uh, pretty much I get my steps in. >> Uh, pretty much I get my steps in. >> Uh, pretty much I get my steps in. Whether I'm at work, if I, you know, if Whether I'm at work, if I, you know, if Whether I'm at work, if I, you know, if I'm at work, I'm, like I said, I'm a I'm at work, I'm, like I said, I'm a I'm at work, I'm, like I said, I'm a truck driver, so if I have, uh, any truck driver, so if I have, uh, any truck driver, so if I have, uh, any downtime, I get out, walk. But, uh, downtime, I get out, walk. But, uh, downtime, I get out, walk. But, uh, yeah, I get home at like 7 o'clock at yeah, I get home at like 7 o'clock at yeah, I get home at like 7 o'clock at night, and I usually get a good workout night, and I usually get a good workout night, and I usually get a good workout in between 7 and 8. Uh, and that's in between 7 and 8. Uh, and that's in between 7 and 8. Uh, and that's pretty much it for my daily activity. pretty much it for my daily activity. pretty much it for my daily activity. Other than that, like, Other than that, like, Other than that, like, >> you know, cuz I'm pretty much driving >> you know, cuz I'm pretty much driving >> you know, cuz I'm pretty much driving all day. So, whenever I get a chance, all day. So, whenever I get a chance, all day. So, whenever I get a chance, I'm out walking, you know. I'm out walking, you know. I'm out walking, you know. >> Any idea on a like what steps average >> Any idea on a like what steps average >> Any idea on a like what steps average like in a normal day? Do you have any like in a normal day? Do you have any like in a normal day? Do you have any idea? idea? idea? >> I would say I'm I'm averaging around >> I would say I'm I'm averaging around >> I would say I'm I'm averaging around 8,000. There's days I get over 10,000, 8,000. There's days I get over 10,000, 8,000. There's days I get over 10,000, but it's usually around 10,000. but it's usually around 10,000. but it's usually around 10,000. >> Okay, that's not bad at all. And when >> Okay, that's not bad at all. And when >> Okay, that's not bad at all. And when you're working out, how long does that you're working out, how long does that you're working out, how long does that take you? I usually I usually right an hour a little over an hour right an hour a little over an hour right an hour a little over an hour sometimes. sometimes. sometimes. >> Okay. And and that's and that's turning >> Okay. And and that's and that's turning >> Okay. And and that's and that's turning into five days a week of that. into five days a week of that. into five days a week of that. >> Yeah. I It's definitely three days a >> Yeah. I It's definitely three days a >> Yeah. I It's definitely three days a week, over an hour, like an hour, hour, week, over an hour, like an hour, hour, week, over an hour, like an hour, hour, 15 minutes. Then the other two are 15 minutes. Then the other two are 15 minutes. Then the other two are probably right around an hour, maybe 45 probably right around an hour, maybe 45 probably right around an hour, maybe 45 minutes where I'll do like a core cardio minutes where I'll do like a core cardio minutes where I'll do like a core cardio workout or I do like one day of uh I'll workout or I do like one day of uh I'll workout or I do like one day of uh I'll get on the bike and do like a 30 minute get on the bike and do like a 30 minute get on the bike and do like a 30 minute interval cardio. interval cardio. interval cardio. >> All right. It's I mean it's going to be >> All right. It's I mean it's going to be >> All right. It's I mean it's going to be pretty simple pretty simple prescription pretty simple pretty simple prescription pretty simple pretty simple prescription for you, Bobby. Uh I I'll send you maps for you, Bobby. Uh I I'll send you maps for you, Bobby. Uh I I'll send you maps uh 15. It's a lot shorter than what uh 15. It's a lot shorter than what uh 15. It's a lot shorter than what you're doing, but what you're doing is you're doing, but what you're doing is you're doing, but what you're doing is overdoing it. overdoing it. overdoing it. >> Yeah, I was look I I looked into that >> Yeah, I was look I I looked into that >> Yeah, I was look I I looked into that and I was wondering if it would be and I was wondering if it would be and I was wondering if it would be enough or it is enough. You're you've enough or it is enough. You're you've enough or it is enough. You're you've reached a point now where your body has reached a point now where your body has reached a point now where your body has adapted to how low of calorie and how adapted to how low of calorie and how adapted to how low of calorie and how much activity you've done. And you've much activity you've done. And you've much activity you've done. And you've done a great job. You've got down you done a great job. You've got down you done a great job. You've got down you you look great. You've done well. you look great. You've done well. you look great. You've done well. Obviously, all the markers are are Obviously, all the markers are are Obviously, all the markers are are telling you that you're getting telling you that you're getting telling you that you're getting healthier. Uh but you're at a point now healthier. Uh but you're at a point now healthier. Uh but you're at a point now where it's time to build. It's time to where it's time to build. It's time to where it's time to build. It's time to build muscle, build your metabolism. Uh build muscle, build your metabolism. Uh build muscle, build your metabolism. Uh yeah, you we should easily be able to yeah, you we should easily be able to yeah, you we should easily be able to eat 2,800 to to 3,000 calories and eat 2,800 to to 3,000 calories and eat 2,800 to to 3,000 calories and maintain a healthy fit physique where maintain a healthy fit physique where maintain a healthy fit physique where you're at with less activity than what you're at with less activity than what you're at with less activity than what you're doing. you're doing. you're doing. >> So that's Thank you. >> So that's Thank you. >> So that's Thank you. >> So it's it's you're you're in a good >> So it's it's you're you're in a good >> So it's it's you're you're in a good place. Uh but the prescription is going place. Uh but the prescription is going place. Uh but the prescription is going to look you're going to when we when we to look you're going to when we when we to look you're going to when we when we tell you what to do, it's going to feel tell you what to do, it's going to feel tell you what to do, it's going to feel like it's not enough. So the hard part like it's not enough. So the hard part like it's not enough. So the hard part will be the psychological part. You're will be the psychological part. You're will be the psychological part. You're going to feel like oh man. And then you going to feel like oh man. And then you going to feel like oh man. And then you can't let the scale mess with your head can't let the scale mess with your head can't let the scale mess with your head because hopefully we build some muscle. because hopefully we build some muscle. because hopefully we build some muscle. And you might see the scale go up 2 or 4 And you might see the scale go up 2 or 4 And you might see the scale go up 2 or 4 lbs initially uh because we're eating lbs initially uh because we're eating lbs initially uh because we're eating more calories and we're lifting weights, more calories and we're lifting weights, more calories and we're lifting weights, but we're heading in the right but we're heading in the right but we're heading in the right direction. And so that's what it's going direction. And so that's what it's going direction. And so that's what it's going to look like is a slow reverse diet, to look like is a slow reverse diet, to look like is a slow reverse diet, increasing calories a little bit and increasing calories a little bit and increasing calories a little bit and following a protocol like MAPS 15. following a protocol like MAPS 15. following a protocol like MAPS 15. >> You're at like what 2200 2,300 calories >> You're at like what 2200 2,300 calories >> You're at like what 2200 2,300 calories right now? right now? right now? >> Yeah, that's around 21. >> Yeah, that's around 21. >> Yeah, that's around 21. >> 21. Okay. Okay. So, I would get you up >> 21. Okay. Okay. So, I would get you up >> 21. Okay. Okay. So, I would get you up to 20 to right out the gates 25 26. to 20 to right out the gates 25 26. to 20 to right out the gates 25 26. >> Hit your hit your body hit your body >> Hit your hit your body hit your body >> Hit your hit your body hit your body weight and protein if you're not already weight and protein if you're not already weight and protein if you're not already doing that. Be consistent with that. doing that. Be consistent with that. doing that. Be consistent with that. >> All right. >> All right. >> All right. >> Y cons >> Y cons >> Y cons >> and then follow Maps 15. Continue with >> and then follow Maps 15. Continue with >> and then follow Maps 15. Continue with your steps. If you want to do a little your steps. If you want to do a little your steps. If you want to do a little cardio steady state, that's perfectly cardio steady state, that's perfectly cardio steady state, that's perfectly fine. And what you'll see is you're just fine. And what you'll see is you're just fine. And what you'll see is you're just going to get stronger. You're going to going to get stronger. You're going to going to get stronger. You're going to get stronger very consistently. get stronger very consistently. get stronger very consistently. >> Awesome. I I'd love to have a follow-up >> Awesome. I I'd love to have a follow-up >> Awesome. I I'd love to have a follow-up uh if afterwards as you follow through uh if afterwards as you follow through uh if afterwards as you follow through this cuz I think you're going to you're this cuz I think you're going to you're this cuz I think you're going to you're going to see some great results if you going to see some great results if you going to see some great results if you if you follow the prescription if you follow the prescription if you follow the prescription >> after about 4 weeks at 2500 2600 >> after about 4 weeks at 2500 2600 >> after about 4 weeks at 2500 2600 calories. You're feeling good, you're calories. You're feeling good, you're calories. You're feeling good, you're getting stronger, you can bump it up getting stronger, you can bump it up getting stronger, you can bump it up another couple hundred calories up to 27 another couple hundred calories up to 27 another couple hundred calories up to 27 or so. or so. or so. >> All right, cool. Yeah, I mean, hey, I >> All right, cool. Yeah, I mean, hey, I >> All right, cool. Yeah, I mean, hey, I have no problem eating. I love eating. have no problem eating. I love eating. have no problem eating. I love eating. >> Yeah, even though this is a generic >> Yeah, even though this is a generic >> Yeah, even though this is a generic prescription I'm going to tell you right prescription I'm going to tell you right prescription I'm going to tell you right now, it's a pretty good gauge is the now, it's a pretty good gauge is the now, it's a pretty good gauge is the first month Sal saying go up 200. Your first month Sal saying go up 200. Your first month Sal saying go up 200. Your second month of the program, go up second month of the program, go up second month of the program, go up another 200. the third month program go another 200. the third month program go another 200. the third month program go up another 200. up another 200. up another 200. >> Yeah, that that would be so we should be >> Yeah, that that would be so we should be >> Yeah, that that would be so we should be we should be close to 3,000 calories by we should be close to 3,000 calories by we should be close to 3,000 calories by the end of MAPS 15 and I think you'll be the end of MAPS 15 and I think you'll be the end of MAPS 15 and I think you'll be feeling strong, looking good, like all feeling strong, looking good, like all feeling strong, looking good, like all the things. So, and then I'd love to I'd the things. So, and then I'd love to I'd the things. So, and then I'd love to I'd love to follow up with you. I'd love to love to follow up with you. I'd love to love to follow up with you. I'd love to hear how how you're going uh after 3 hear how how you're going uh after 3 hear how how you're going uh after 3 months. months. months. >> Absolutely. Definitely. >> Absolutely. Definitely. >> Absolutely. Definitely. >> Cool. >> Cool. >> Cool. >> All right, we'll send that to you, >> All right, we'll send that to you, >> All right, we'll send that to you, Bobby. Bobby. Bobby. >> I appreciate it, guys. Thanks for >> I appreciate it, guys. Thanks for >> I appreciate it, guys. Thanks for everything. everything. everything. >> All right, man. Keep us posted. >> All right, man. Keep us posted. >> All right, man. Keep us posted. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. [snorts] [snorts] [snorts] >> Pretty easy. Yeah, basically. >> Pretty easy. Yeah, basically. >> Pretty easy. Yeah, basically. >> He did a good job. >> He did a good job. >> He did a good job. >> He did. But I'll just for people >> He did. But I'll just for people >> He did. But I'll just for people listening right now, uh what we're listening right now, uh what we're listening right now, uh what we're trying to do is reverse him out of some trying to do is reverse him out of some trying to do is reverse him out of some kind of mistakes he made. kind of mistakes he made. kind of mistakes he made. >> Ideally, this he would be uh where he >> Ideally, this he would be uh where he >> Ideally, this he would be uh where he wants to be already cuz we would have wants to be already cuz we would have wants to be already cuz we would have reversed him reversed him reversed him >> earlier on. We would have focused on >> earlier on. We would have focused on >> earlier on. We would have focused on building. He still would have lost a lot building. He still would have lost a lot building. He still would have lost a lot of body fat, but he wouldn't have, you of body fat, but he wouldn't have, you of body fat, but he wouldn't have, you know, sitting around because in his know, sitting around because in his know, sitting around because in his email, he was for a while, 1700, 1900 email, he was for a while, 1700, 1900 email, he was for a while, 1700, 1900 calories. Yes. calories. Yes. calories. Yes. >> You know, 8,000 steps a day, lifting >> You know, 8,000 steps a day, lifting >> You know, 8,000 steps a day, lifting weights 5 days a week. He's a guy. Yeah. weights 5 days a week. He's a guy. Yeah. weights 5 days a week. He's a guy. Yeah. >> 180 pound. Like that's really low >> 180 pound. Like that's really low >> 180 pound. Like that's really low calories. calories. calories. >> Yeah. It's very it's very low calorie. >> Yeah. It's very it's very low calorie. >> Yeah. It's very it's very low calorie. And that's at that point. This is where And that's at that point. This is where And that's at that point. This is where people get he's already he know and you people get he's already he know and you people get he's already he know and you you you know that he knew he was so low. you you know that he knew he was so low. you you know that he knew he was so low. Like I'm at this point 17, 1900. I can't Like I'm at this point 17, 1900. I can't Like I'm at this point 17, 1900. I can't go lower. I'm already doing 8,000 steps go lower. I'm already doing 8,000 steps go lower. I'm already doing 8,000 steps >> and he's a truck driver. He doesn't have >> and he's a truck driver. He doesn't have >> and he's a truck driver. He doesn't have that much time in the day to get that much time in the day to get that much time in the day to get probably 15 20,000 steps. You hit you probably 15 20,000 steps. You hit you probably 15 20,000 steps. You hit you get to a place where you're like, "Okay, get to a place where you're like, "Okay, get to a place where you're like, "Okay, where do I go from here?" And we should where do I go from here?" And we should where do I go from here?" And we should have reversed. But I I mean I'm I feel have reversed. But I I mean I'm I feel have reversed. But I I mean I'm I feel pretty confident if he if he takes a pretty confident if he if he takes a pretty confident if he if he takes a prescription and follows that uh you prescription and follows that uh you prescription and follows that uh you know we might see know we might see know we might see five to eight pounds on the scale up five to eight pounds on the scale up five to eight pounds on the scale up possibly. possibly. possibly. >> I think so. >> I think so. >> I think so. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> I think so. Especially following a good >> I think so. Especially following a good >> I think so. Especially following a good uh workout program that's appropriate uh workout program that's appropriate uh workout program that's appropriate for him. Yeah. for him. Yeah. for him. Yeah. >> Bumping his calories. I think he's going >> Bumping his calories. I think he's going >> Bumping his calories. I think he's going to build great strength and muscle to build great strength and muscle to build great strength and muscle period of time. period of time. period of time. >> Our next caller is Casey from North >> Our next caller is Casey from North >> Our next caller is Casey from North Carolina. Carolina. Carolina. >> Hi Casey. >> Hi Casey. >> Hi Casey. >> How you doing Casey? >> How you doing Casey? >> How you doing Casey? >> How you doing? >> How you doing? >> How you doing? >> Hi guys. It's so good to be here. I >> Hi guys. It's so good to be here. I >> Hi guys. It's so good to be here. I appreciate it. appreciate it. appreciate it. >> You got it. How can we help you? >> You got it. How can we help you? >> You got it. How can we help you? >> Yeah. So, I've been a listener um avidly >> Yeah. So, I've been a listener um avidly >> Yeah. So, I've been a listener um avidly since 2019. Um truly in love with your since 2019. Um truly in love with your since 2019. Um truly in love with your guys' content and truly everything you guys' content and truly everything you guys' content and truly everything you guys put out there. Um so, I have a guys put out there. Um so, I have a guys put out there. Um so, I have a question kind of regarding my lifestyle question kind of regarding my lifestyle question kind of regarding my lifestyle around having an autoimmune disease. So, around having an autoimmune disease. So, around having an autoimmune disease. So, about 3 years ago at 31, I was diagnosed about 3 years ago at 31, I was diagnosed about 3 years ago at 31, I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by a functional with Hashimoto's by a functional with Hashimoto's by a functional functional health practitioner. At the functional health practitioner. At the functional health practitioner. At the time, I was kind of recommended to cut time, I was kind of recommended to cut time, I was kind of recommended to cut out the gluten, the everyday things, out the gluten, the everyday things, out the gluten, the everyday things, right, that we kind of just assume with right, that we kind of just assume with right, that we kind of just assume with >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> um gluten, the sugar, pretty much dairy, >> um gluten, the sugar, pretty much dairy, >> um gluten, the sugar, pretty much dairy, uh processed uh pretty much anything. uh processed uh pretty much anything. uh processed uh pretty much anything. And then I was also encouraged to go And then I was also encouraged to go And then I was also encouraged to go down the HIT style workouts. And I have down the HIT style workouts. And I have down the HIT style workouts. And I have to admit, listening to you guys, hearing to admit, listening to you guys, hearing to admit, listening to you guys, hearing that, it's like these mixed signals. So, that, it's like these mixed signals. So, that, it's like these mixed signals. So, I started the HIT program that you guys I started the HIT program that you guys I started the HIT program that you guys have. Um, added in a spin class once a have. Um, added in a spin class once a have. Um, added in a spin class once a week, continued doing yoga class once a week, continued doing yoga class once a week, continued doing yoga class once a week. Um, and in a direct way, I like week. Um, and in a direct way, I like week. Um, and in a direct way, I like like I said in here, I don't like hit, like I said in here, I don't like hit, like I said in here, I don't like hit, don't love it. Um, all the things. So, don't love it. Um, all the things. So, don't love it. Um, all the things. So, went back to lifting. Uh, so I run went back to lifting. Uh, so I run went back to lifting. Uh, so I run symmetry once a year and then run symmetry once a year and then run symmetry once a year and then run anabolic the rest of the year. along anabolic the rest of the year. along anabolic the rest of the year. along with anabolic three days a week. I also with anabolic three days a week. I also with anabolic three days a week. I also do the yoga, the one 45 minute spin do the yoga, the one 45 minute spin do the yoga, the one 45 minute spin class, and uh trying to make sure I get class, and uh trying to make sure I get class, and uh trying to make sure I get the 8 to 10,000 steps a day. Um, so kind the 8 to 10,000 steps a day. Um, so kind the 8 to 10,000 steps a day. Um, so kind of just some back steps to this is prior of just some back steps to this is prior of just some back steps to this is prior to 2023, I'd always been in the gym, but to 2023, I'd always been in the gym, but to 2023, I'd always been in the gym, but never really looked like it. I've always never really looked like it. I've always never really looked like it. I've always been on the bigger side, even in my been on the bigger side, even in my been on the bigger side, even in my early teens. Um, and I was really in early teens. Um, and I was really in early teens. Um, and I was really in kind of in in the early teens already kind of in in the early teens already kind of in in the early teens already going to the doctor and kind of talking going to the doctor and kind of talking going to the doctor and kind of talking about my thyroid and getting it checked. about my thyroid and getting it checked. about my thyroid and getting it checked. Um, so then in 2015, uh, I dropped over Um, so then in 2015, uh, I dropped over Um, so then in 2015, uh, I dropped over 60 lbs and felt great around the 175 60 lbs and felt great around the 175 60 lbs and felt great around the 175 mark. And over the course of the last 3 mark. And over the course of the last 3 mark. And over the course of the last 3 years, I've put on 40 lb and really kind years, I've put on 40 lb and really kind years, I've put on 40 lb and really kind of in this like unsure unsure way. Um, of in this like unsure unsure way. Um, of in this like unsure unsure way. Um, and so I eat around 2200 calories, and so I eat around 2200 calories, and so I eat around 2200 calories, strive to hit protein around the 170 strive to hit protein around the 170 strive to hit protein around the 170 mark, cut out gluten, dairy, alcohol, mark, cut out gluten, dairy, alcohol, mark, cut out gluten, dairy, alcohol, processed sugars, um, and did a reverse processed sugars, um, and did a reverse processed sugars, um, and did a reverse diet for about 6 months there. And diet for about 6 months there. And diet for about 6 months there. And really I I bumped it up. I I bumped up really I I bumped it up. I I bumped up really I I bumped it up. I I bumped up my calories to about 2,600 calories and my calories to about 2,600 calories and my calories to about 2,600 calories and just didn't see much change. Um, and I just didn't see much change. Um, and I just didn't see much change. Um, and I really thought I would I thought maybe really thought I would I thought maybe really thought I would I thought maybe that was maybe a factor, just my that was maybe a factor, just my that was maybe a factor, just my calories were needing some adjustments calories were needing some adjustments calories were needing some adjustments and and and just didn't see a whole lot happen. Um just didn't see a whole lot happen. Um just didn't see a whole lot happen. Um actually I kind of increased I kind of actually I kind of increased I kind of actually I kind of increased I kind of gained a little bit of weight. Um so gained a little bit of weight. Um so gained a little bit of weight. Um so question is with having the autoimmune question is with having the autoimmune question is with having the autoimmune disease would anything training wise disease would anything training wise disease would anything training wise need to change um additional supplements need to change um additional supplements need to change um additional supplements dietary? um feel as though I'm just dietary? um feel as though I'm just dietary? um feel as though I'm just doing like your average advice and not doing like your average advice and not doing like your average advice and not really seeing um much of a change in really seeing um much of a change in really seeing um much of a change in results and just kind of curious what results and just kind of curious what results and just kind of curious what your guys's maybe input um would look your guys's maybe input um would look your guys's maybe input um would look like to maybe feeling better and like to maybe feeling better and like to maybe feeling better and dropping just a little bit of weight. dropping just a little bit of weight. dropping just a little bit of weight. >> Yeah, good good question. Casey, tell me >> Yeah, good good question. Casey, tell me >> Yeah, good good question. Casey, tell me about the rest of your your life. What about the rest of your your life. What about the rest of your your life. What do you what do you do uh outside of do you what do you do uh outside of do you what do you do uh outside of working out and stuff like that? working out and stuff like that? working out and stuff like that? >> Yeah, so I'm a teacher. Um so I'm in the >> Yeah, so I'm a teacher. Um so I'm in the >> Yeah, so I'm a teacher. Um so I'm in the special ed world and so kind of um have special ed world and so kind of um have special ed world and so kind of um have been for the past 10 years. So, I've been for the past 10 years. So, I've been for the past 10 years. So, I've kind of got to lock in on that, but I kind of got to lock in on that, but I kind of got to lock in on that, but I love it. Um, let's see. Yeah, the gym. love it. Um, let's see. Yeah, the gym. love it. Um, let's see. Yeah, the gym. Love that. I'm social. Love to do kind Love that. I'm social. Love to do kind Love that. I'm social. Love to do kind of going out, seeing friends. of going out, seeing friends. of going out, seeing friends. >> Okay. Do you have family? Kids? >> Okay. Do you have family? Kids? >> Okay. Do you have family? Kids? >> No kids? Um, I do have family, but >> No kids? Um, I do have family, but >> No kids? Um, I do have family, but they're back in the Midwest, so I've they're back in the Midwest, so I've they're back in the Midwest, so I've kind of built my own family out here in kind of built my own family out here in kind of built my own family out here in North Carolina. North Carolina. North Carolina. >> Great. And then how's your sleep? >> Great. And then how's your sleep? >> Great. And then how's your sleep? >> Great. I'm I'm a I'm gonna make sure I >> Great. I'm I'm a I'm gonna make sure I >> Great. I'm I'm a I'm gonna make sure I get about eight to nine hours. get about eight to nine hours. get about eight to nine hours. >> Okay. I'm I'm curious as to why the >> Okay. I'm I'm curious as to why the >> Okay. I'm I'm curious as to why the functional medicine practitioner functional medicine practitioner functional medicine practitioner recommended such intense exercise. recommended such intense exercise. recommended such intense exercise. >> It doesn't it's not a match at all. >> It doesn't it's not a match at all. >> It doesn't it's not a match at all. That's what I thought. Especially I mean That's what I thought. Especially I mean That's what I thought. Especially I mean just because I love hearing your guys' just because I love hearing your guys' just because I love hearing your guys' thoughts on things and you've had a thoughts on things and you've had a thoughts on things and you've had a couple other callers with some somewhat couple other callers with some somewhat couple other callers with some somewhat similar questions and that's your guys' similar questions and that's your guys' similar questions and that's your guys' advice too is like advice too is like advice too is like >> like Adam says like >> like Adam says like >> like Adam says like >> yeah like elicit the the the change the >> yeah like elicit the the the change the >> yeah like elicit the the the change the less amount but I yeah I was kind of in less amount but I yeah I was kind of in less amount but I yeah I was kind of in that curiosity too and why the 1,800 that curiosity too and why the 1,800 that curiosity too and why the 1,800 calories was the other the other calories was the other the other calories was the other the other recommener and I'm like okay you know recommener and I'm like okay you know recommener and I'm like okay you know not loving it not loving how my body not loving it not loving how my body not loving it not loving how my body felt. I'm like wondering is that what I felt. I'm like wondering is that what I felt. I'm like wondering is that what I needed to do and I just didn't give needed to do and I just didn't give needed to do and I just didn't give enough time or is it truly not the right enough time or is it truly not the right enough time or is it truly not the right advice? advice? advice? >> I like that you cut out uh gluten. Uh >> I like that you cut out uh gluten. Uh >> I like that you cut out uh gluten. Uh there seems to be a connection with that there seems to be a connection with that there seems to be a connection with that and um antibodies thyroid antibodies. I and um antibodies thyroid antibodies. I and um antibodies thyroid antibodies. I like that you cut out sugar. I like that like that you cut out sugar. I like that like that you cut out sugar. I like that you're not eating processed foods. I you're not eating processed foods. I you're not eating processed foods. I think your body uh is maybe fried and think your body uh is maybe fried and think your body uh is maybe fried and this this tends to be the case with this this tends to be the case with this this tends to be the case with autoimmune issues. autoimmune issues. autoimmune issues. >> When we have autoimmune issues uh we >> When we have autoimmune issues uh we >> When we have autoimmune issues uh we tend to be more sensitive to stress. tend to be more sensitive to stress. tend to be more sensitive to stress. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. >> That's why I asked you about the rest of >> That's why I asked you about the rest of >> That's why I asked you about the rest of your life. Um, now as a special ed your life. Um, now as a special ed your life. Um, now as a special ed teacher, teacher, teacher, >> uh, I'm sure it takes a lot out of you. >> uh, I'm sure it takes a lot out of you. >> uh, I'm sure it takes a lot out of you. Uh, I know my mom works with, uh, with Uh, I know my mom works with, uh, with Uh, I know my mom works with, uh, with with kids like that, and I know it's a with kids like that, and I know it's a with kids like that, and I know it's a very, I mean, it's it's a demanding very, I mean, it's it's a demanding very, I mean, it's it's a demanding takes a lot out of you. Uh, but I do takes a lot out of you. Uh, but I do takes a lot out of you. Uh, but I do think your body is, uh, a little bit think your body is, uh, a little bit think your body is, uh, a little bit more sensitive to stress. more sensitive to stress. more sensitive to stress. >> And so, I would change your workout. I >> And so, I would change your workout. I >> And so, I would change your workout. I wouldn't push anything. What I mean by wouldn't push anything. What I mean by wouldn't push anything. What I mean by that is I wouldn't push a reverse diet. that is I wouldn't push a reverse diet. that is I wouldn't push a reverse diet. I wouldn't push a cut. I wouldn't push a cut. I wouldn't push a cut. >> What I would try to do is kind of sit >> What I would try to do is kind of sit >> What I would try to do is kind of sit >> somewhere that feels good. Yeah. >> somewhere that feels good. Yeah. >> somewhere that feels good. Yeah. >> And follow a program that looks more >> And follow a program that looks more >> And follow a program that looks more like Maps 15. I would do no additional like Maps 15. I would do no additional like Maps 15. I would do no additional exercise. exercise. exercise. >> You can do yoga if it's like yin yoga. >> You can do yoga if it's like yin yoga. >> You can do yoga if it's like yin yoga. >> I [clears throat] wondered I wondered if >> I [clears throat] wondered I wondered if >> I [clears throat] wondered I wondered if you'd recommend that cuz I tend to be on you'd recommend that cuz I tend to be on you'd recommend that cuz I tend to be on the uh warm flow side and I wondered if the uh warm flow side and I wondered if the uh warm flow side and I wondered if maybe you would say kind of go the yin maybe you would say kind of go the yin maybe you would say kind of go the yin slow slow slow >> yin yoga walking that's all good >> yin yoga walking that's all good >> yin yoga walking that's all good >> and maps 15. That's it. So maps 15. Hit >> and maps 15. That's it. So maps 15. Hit >> and maps 15. That's it. So maps 15. Hit your steps. your steps. your steps. >> You're strength training. >> You're strength training. >> You're strength training. >> Do you know where your calories are >> Do you know where your calories are >> Do you know where your calories are sitting at right now? Are you like 22? sitting at right now? Are you like 22? sitting at right now? Are you like 22? Um, I've been on an average of 2,200 Um, I've been on an average of 2,200 Um, I've been on an average of 2,200 calories, right? Like probably the past calories, right? Like probably the past calories, right? Like probably the past month I've Yeah. month I've Yeah. month I've Yeah. >> So, there's a couple ways we could do >> So, there's a couple ways we could do >> So, there's a couple ways we could do this. You could stay around 2200. Follow this. You could stay around 2200. Follow this. You could stay around 2200. Follow Maps 15. If you don't have that, I'll Maps 15. If you don't have that, I'll Maps 15. If you don't have that, I'll send that to you. Uh, no additional send that to you. Uh, no additional send that to you. Uh, no additional workouts, okay? But walking, yen yoga, workouts, okay? But walking, yen yoga, workouts, okay? But walking, yen yoga, totally fine. So, anything else you do, totally fine. So, anything else you do, totally fine. So, anything else you do, I want you to think uh recuperative. I want you to think uh recuperative. I want you to think uh recuperative. >> So, like, okay, I'm going to go outside >> So, like, okay, I'm going to go outside >> So, like, okay, I'm going to go outside and walk. It's going to be a and walk. It's going to be a and walk. It's going to be a recuperative walk. Or I'm going to go do recuperative walk. Or I'm going to go do recuperative walk. Or I'm going to go do a yoga class. Which one's recuperative? a yoga class. Which one's recuperative? a yoga class. Which one's recuperative? The only workouts you're going to do are The only workouts you're going to do are The only workouts you're going to do are mass 15. With diet, there's going to be mass 15. With diet, there's going to be mass 15. With diet, there's going to be two approaches. One is you can keep two approaches. One is you can keep two approaches. One is you can keep tracking and I, you know, stay around tracking and I, you know, stay around tracking and I, you know, stay around 2200 calories. The other one is to do 2200 calories. The other one is to do 2200 calories. The other one is to do this. Hit your protein targets, stick to this. Hit your protein targets, stick to this. Hit your protein targets, stick to whole natural foods, and then eat when whole natural foods, and then eat when whole natural foods, and then eat when you're hungry and don't eat when you're you're hungry and don't eat when you're you're hungry and don't eat when you're not hungry. not hungry. not hungry. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, that's going to allow >> Okay. So, that's going to allow >> Okay. So, that's going to allow fluctuations. fluctuations. fluctuations. Uh, it's also going to take stress off Uh, it's also going to take stress off Uh, it's also going to take stress off of you. Uh, I don't know how how of you. Uh, I don't know how how of you. Uh, I don't know how how tracking feels for you, but I know for tracking feels for you, but I know for tracking feels for you, but I know for most people, tracking constantly is an most people, tracking constantly is an most people, tracking constantly is an additional stress. I got to count additional stress. I got to count additional stress. I got to count everything that goes into my mouth type everything that goes into my mouth type everything that goes into my mouth type of deal. of deal. of deal. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Especially when you cut out uh gluten, >> Especially when you cut out uh gluten, >> Especially when you cut out uh gluten, sugar, dairy, and processed foods. And sugar, dairy, and processed foods. And sugar, dairy, and processed foods. And so those are two options. The one that so those are two options. The one that so those are two options. The one that resonates better with you I would go resonates better with you I would go resonates better with you I would go with. with. with. >> But the only thing I would have you >> But the only thing I would have you >> But the only thing I would have you track would be protein. And I think 170 track would be protein. And I think 170 track would be protein. And I think 170 grams of protein is perfectly fine. grams of protein is perfectly fine. grams of protein is perfectly fine. >> Aim aim for that. Whole natural foods. >> Aim aim for that. Whole natural foods. >> Aim aim for that. Whole natural foods. I'm hungry. I'll eat some more. If I'm I'm hungry. I'll eat some more. If I'm I'm hungry. I'll eat some more. If I'm not hungry, uh I'm not going to eat as not hungry, uh I'm not going to eat as not hungry, uh I'm not going to eat as much. Um and then just follow mass 15. much. Um and then just follow mass 15. much. Um and then just follow mass 15. And then the idea is to let your body uh And then the idea is to let your body uh And then the idea is to let your body uh settle down a little bit because I think settle down a little bit because I think settle down a little bit because I think >> rest and build. >> rest and build. >> rest and build. >> Yeah. Because I think you've been uh >> Yeah. Because I think you've been uh >> Yeah. Because I think you've been uh it's it's I think it's it's very it's it's I think it's it's very it's it's I think it's it's very reactive to stress reactive to stress reactive to stress >> and you know symmetry anabolic they're >> and you know symmetry anabolic they're >> and you know symmetry anabolic they're not bad but coming from where you you've not bad but coming from where you you've not bad but coming from where you you've been uh I think we need to scale back been uh I think we need to scale back been uh I think we need to scale back and and give our body like 3 months at and and give our body like 3 months at and and give our body like 3 months at least least least >> of kind of like this kind of lower >> of kind of like this kind of lower >> of kind of like this kind of lower intensity lower volume style of training intensity lower volume style of training intensity lower volume style of training just to let your body heal a little bit. just to let your body heal a little bit. just to let your body heal a little bit. Casey, just out of curiosity, I know Casey, just out of curiosity, I know Casey, just out of curiosity, I know you've been listening to [clears throat] you've been listening to [clears throat] you've been listening to [clears throat] the show for a long time and so you the show for a long time and so you the show for a long time and so you obviously uh know we talk about diet obviously uh know we talk about diet obviously uh know we talk about diet philosophy and all the things around philosophy and all the things around philosophy and all the things around there. If you were being critical of there. If you were being critical of there. If you were being critical of yourself on your diet, what would you yourself on your diet, what would you yourself on your diet, what would you say is the areas that you are the most say is the areas that you are the most say is the areas that you are the most challenged with or you struggle the most challenged with or you struggle the most challenged with or you struggle the most with? with? with? >> Um probably your when your weekend. >> Um probably your when your weekend. >> Um probably your when your weekend. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> I I >> I I >> I I tend to do really well um when I've got tend to do really well um when I've got tend to do really well um when I've got this like mindset and everyone around me this like mindset and everyone around me this like mindset and everyone around me knows like hey like we're we're dialed knows like hey like we're we're dialed knows like hey like we're we're dialed in. But I think like that Saturday in. But I think like that Saturday in. But I think like that Saturday night, date night, we might go out and night, date night, we might go out and night, date night, we might go out and >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And sometimes it does involve gluten >> And sometimes it does involve gluten >> And sometimes it does involve gluten because I do wonder if that um also because I do wonder if that um also because I do wonder if that um also maybe factors is like do I have any maybe factors is like do I have any maybe factors is like do I have any bites of it and it really resets me. bites of it and it really resets me. bites of it and it really resets me. >> I I you So it's not always true, but >> I I you So it's not always true, but >> I I you So it's not always true, but it's often true with thyroid antibodies. it's often true with thyroid antibodies. it's often true with thyroid antibodies. You got to avoid gluten like you have an You got to avoid gluten like you have an You got to avoid gluten like you have an allergy to it. allergy to it. allergy to it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So like like no crosscontaminate >> Okay. So like like no crosscontaminate >> Okay. So like like no crosscontaminate like it's like you can't get near it like it's like you can't get near it like it's like you can't get near it >> uh to allow the immune system to uh to >> uh to allow the immune system to uh to >> uh to allow the immune system to uh to kind of settle down because even a kind of settle down because even a kind of settle down because even a little bit of exposure here and there little bit of exposure here and there little bit of exposure here and there >> can keep things um a bit elevated with >> can keep things um a bit elevated with >> can keep things um a bit elevated with the autoimmune issue the autoimmune issue the autoimmune issue >> and because you know that about yourself >> and because you know that about yourself >> and because you know that about yourself as we're since we're giving all this as we're since we're giving all this as we're since we're giving all this advice right now everything S's saying advice right now everything S's saying advice right now everything S's saying on point and then my piece would be win on point and then my piece would be win on point and then my piece would be win the weekend make that a thing make that the weekend make that a thing make that the weekend make that a thing make that a thing at least give that to yourself a thing at least give that to yourself a thing at least give that to yourself for 60 90 days so you can see what a for 60 90 days so you can see what a for 60 90 days so you can see what a difference that makes when you do take difference that makes when you do take difference that makes when you do take all the advice he's saying on the diet all the advice he's saying on the diet all the advice he's saying on the diet recommendations, the exercise recommendations, the exercise recommendations, the exercise recommendations, make it a goal. Set a recommendations, make it a goal. Set a recommendations, make it a goal. Set a goal for a certain amount of time. I'm goal for a certain amount of time. I'm goal for a certain amount of time. I'm going to win these this many weekends in going to win these this many weekends in going to win these this many weekends in a row, and I want to see what kind of a row, and I want to see what kind of a row, and I want to see what kind of impact it makes. And I have a feeling if impact it makes. And I have a feeling if impact it makes. And I have a feeling if you take all of the advice we've given, you take all of the advice we've given, you take all of the advice we've given, you win those that many weekends in a you win those that many weekends in a you win those that many weekends in a row, I think you're going to feel and row, I think you're going to feel and row, I think you're going to feel and see a nice difference. see a nice difference. see a nice difference. >> But I want you to really gauge it by how >> But I want you to really gauge it by how >> But I want you to really gauge it by how you feel uh and by performance. Let's you feel uh and by performance. Let's you feel uh and by performance. Let's not worry too much about the scale until not worry too much about the scale until not worry too much about the scale until we start to see strength and we start to we start to see strength and we start to we start to see strength and we start to feel better. Then we can start to worry feel better. Then we can start to worry feel better. Then we can start to worry about that a little bit. And then what I about that a little bit. And then what I about that a little bit. And then what I said about the diet, often times, and said about the diet, often times, and said about the diet, often times, and you let me know if this resonates, uh, you let me know if this resonates, uh, you let me know if this resonates, uh, often times the reason why people go off often times the reason why people go off often times the reason why people go off on the weekend is because they're so on the weekend is because they're so on the weekend is because they're so strict during the week. And so if the strict during the week. And so if the strict during the week. And so if the tracking is not so much on the calories, tracking is not so much on the calories, tracking is not so much on the calories, but just the protein, and staying away but just the protein, and staying away but just the protein, and staying away from those things that you're reactive from those things that you're reactive from those things that you're reactive to, to, to, >> it might give you the flexibility on the >> it might give you the flexibility on the >> it might give you the flexibility on the weekend. So, you go out on a date and weekend. So, you go out on a date and weekend. So, you go out on a date and you're like, you know what? I'm going to you're like, you know what? I'm going to you're like, you know what? I'm going to stay away from, you know, gluten, sugar, stay away from, you know, gluten, sugar, stay away from, you know, gluten, sugar, like those types of things. I'm not like those types of things. I'm not like those types of things. I'm not tracking my calories. I'll hit my tracking my calories. I'll hit my tracking my calories. I'll hit my protein and now I can kind of enjoy protein and now I can kind of enjoy protein and now I can kind of enjoy myself a little bit. And if I'm a little myself a little bit. And if I'm a little myself a little bit. And if I'm a little hungry, I'll eat more. If I'm not, I'll hungry, I'll eat more. If I'm not, I'll hungry, I'll eat more. If I'm not, I'll eat a little less. So, again, you know, eat a little less. So, again, you know, eat a little less. So, again, you know, you know, yourself, if that feels like you know, yourself, if that feels like you know, yourself, if that feels like it's going to, you know, make you more it's going to, you know, make you more it's going to, you know, make you more consistent, then I would go in that consistent, then I would go in that consistent, then I would go in that direction. direction. direction. >> Sure. Okay. Yeah. I um definitely think >> Sure. Okay. Yeah. I um definitely think >> Sure. Okay. Yeah. I um definitely think that that's manageable. I think you like that that's manageable. I think you like that that's manageable. I think you like you said 3 months even just to see cuz I you said 3 months even just to see cuz I you said 3 months even just to see cuz I I don't I wouldn't say there's extreme I don't I wouldn't say there's extreme I don't I wouldn't say there's extreme cheats or like I go off the tracks often cheats or like I go off the tracks often cheats or like I go off the tracks often but I I wonder I heard something not too but I I wonder I heard something not too but I I wonder I heard something not too long ago like it can set you back even long ago like it can set you back even long ago like it can set you back even even a month um just like yeah digestion even a month um just like yeah digestion even a month um just like yeah digestion wise. So wise. So wise. So >> it can and then do you um have you ever >> it can and then do you um have you ever >> it can and then do you um have you ever been tested for like SIBO SEO parasites? been tested for like SIBO SEO parasites? been tested for like SIBO SEO parasites? >> No, I haven't officially been tested but >> No, I haven't officially been tested but >> No, I haven't officially been tested but did do the Organifi um parasite cleanse did do the Organifi um parasite cleanse did do the Organifi um parasite cleanse which I loved. Um, felt great after which I loved. Um, felt great after which I loved. Um, felt great after that. So, that. So, that. So, >> did you really? >> did you really? >> did you really? >> Mhm. Yeah, that was January that I did >> Mhm. Yeah, that was January that I did >> Mhm. Yeah, that was January that I did that and felt really good. that and felt really good. that and felt really good. >> Okay. So, that was the last time you did >> Okay. So, that was the last time you did >> Okay. So, that was the last time you did it was then. And what did you notice it was then. And what did you notice it was then. And what did you notice afterwards? Just you just felt better? afterwards? Just you just felt better? afterwards? Just you just felt better? >> Yeah. Yeah. It was like um probably a >> Yeah. Yeah. It was like um probably a >> Yeah. Yeah. It was like um probably a week after I finally started like just week after I finally started like just week after I finally started like just feeling more relaxed. I didn't feel as feeling more relaxed. I didn't feel as feeling more relaxed. I didn't feel as much digestion. Um it [clears throat] much digestion. Um it [clears throat] much digestion. Um it [clears throat] was like I felt like digestion overload was like I felt like digestion overload was like I felt like digestion overload maybe the best way to put that prior. maybe the best way to put that prior. maybe the best way to put that prior. And it just kind of like And it just kind of like And it just kind of like >> So, [snorts] here's how you would use >> So, [snorts] here's how you would use >> So, [snorts] here's how you would use something like that. Uh, I would do it something like that. Uh, I would do it something like that. Uh, I would do it again again again >> and when you're done, I would wait two >> and when you're done, I would wait two >> and when you're done, I would wait two weeks and then do it again. weeks and then do it again. weeks and then do it again. >> So, here's here's what happens. If there >> So, here's here's what happens. If there >> So, here's here's what happens. If there are indeed parasites, it'll it'll it's are indeed parasites, it'll it'll it's are indeed parasites, it'll it'll it's pretty good odds it'll kill the pretty good odds it'll kill the pretty good odds it'll kill the parasites, parasites, parasites, >> but not touch the eggs. >> but not touch the eggs. >> but not touch the eggs. >> So, you're finished with it, you feel >> So, you're finished with it, you feel >> So, you're finished with it, you feel better, 30 days later you start to feel better, 30 days later you start to feel better, 30 days later you start to feel worse again. That's because the eggs are worse again. That's because the eggs are worse again. That's because the eggs are hatching. So, that's why you would wait hatching. So, that's why you would wait hatching. So, that's why you would wait two to three weeks and then do another two to three weeks and then do another two to three weeks and then do another cycle. cycle. cycle. >> Got it. Okay. >> Got it. Okay. >> Got it. Okay. >> All right. Um I will like just within >> All right. Um I will like just within >> All right. Um I will like just within all of this the supplement route um is all of this the supplement route um is all of this the supplement route um is there anything within having Hashimoto's there anything within having Hashimoto's there anything within having Hashimoto's but autoimmune disease you guys would but autoimmune disease you guys would but autoimmune disease you guys would recommend? recommend? recommend? >> Yeah, I would go methylated B vitamins. >> Yeah, I would go methylated B vitamins. >> Yeah, I would go methylated B vitamins. Uh I would do uh vitamin D, creatine. I Uh I would do uh vitamin D, creatine. I Uh I would do uh vitamin D, creatine. I think creatine is a good idea if you think creatine is a good idea if you think creatine is a good idea if you don't already take it. don't already take it. don't already take it. >> Um and that's that's pretty much it. Um >> Um and that's that's pretty much it. Um >> Um and that's that's pretty much it. Um unless you see another functional health unless you see another functional health unless you see another functional health practitioner, they recommend some other practitioner, they recommend some other practitioner, they recommend some other stuff. Um, I don't like treating uh stuff. Um, I don't like treating uh stuff. Um, I don't like treating uh personally treating autoimmune with personally treating autoimmune with personally treating autoimmune with supplements, but really more as supplements, but really more as supplements, but really more as supportive. And so, supportive. And so, supportive. And so, >> because I do I do take quite a few >> because I do I do take quite a few >> because I do I do take quite a few supplements. So, I'm like looking at the supplements. So, I'm like looking at the supplements. So, I'm like looking at the list going, is there any chance any of list going, is there any chance any of list going, is there any chance any of these can get weeded off? these can get weeded off? these can get weeded off? >> Which ones are you taking? >> Which ones are you taking? >> Which ones are you taking? >> So, I've got I've got finally put on >> So, I've got I've got finally put on >> So, I've got I've got finally put on Levothy um 25 milligrams. I do seeds, Levothy um 25 milligrams. I do seeds, Levothy um 25 milligrams. I do seeds, probiotic, and multivitamin, ferotin, probiotic, and multivitamin, ferotin, probiotic, and multivitamin, ferotin, zinc, digestive enzymes, fish oil, zinc, digestive enzymes, fish oil, zinc, digestive enzymes, fish oil, magnesium. And then I took I started magnesium. And then I took I started magnesium. And then I took I started taking rose curcumin um curcumin. taking rose curcumin um curcumin. taking rose curcumin um curcumin. >> Yeah, those are all fine. I don't think >> Yeah, those are all fine. I don't think >> Yeah, those are all fine. I don't think I think the multivitamin the probiotic I think the multivitamin the probiotic I think the multivitamin the probiotic would be the more kind of necessary would be the more kind of necessary would be the more kind of necessary ones. ones. ones. >> Uh uh but yeah, I think you're I think >> Uh uh but yeah, I think you're I think >> Uh uh but yeah, I think you're I think you're you're totally fine. you're you're totally fine. you're you're totally fine. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. >> Perfect. Well, I appreciate it, guys. I >> Perfect. Well, I appreciate it, guys. I >> Perfect. Well, I appreciate it, guys. I um um um >> And then vitamin D. One more thing. Have >> And then vitamin D. One more thing. Have >> And then vitamin D. One more thing. Have you had your vitamin D levels tested? you had your vitamin D levels tested? you had your vitamin D levels tested? >> I did. Yeah. Yeah. Back in range. Yes. >> I did. Yeah. Yeah. Back in range. Yes. >> I did. Yeah. Yeah. Back in range. Yes. >> Okay, good. Okay, good. That's it. Yep. >> Okay, good. Okay, good. That's it. Yep. >> Okay, good. Okay, good. That's it. Yep. >> Good. >> Good. >> Good. >> Um All right. Well, perfect. Thank you >> Um All right. Well, perfect. Thank you >> Um All right. Well, perfect. Thank you so much, guys. so much, guys. so much, guys. >> You got it. And I'll send over Maps 15. >> You got it. And I'll send over Maps 15. >> You got it. And I'll send over Maps 15. Okay. And then you know what? Let's get Okay. And then you know what? Let's get Okay. And then you know what? Let's get you back on in 90 days. I want to see you back on in 90 days. I want to see you back on in 90 days. I want to see how you feel. how you feel. how you feel. >> Okay. Yeah, that'll be awesome. Um Thank >> Okay. Yeah, that'll be awesome. Um Thank >> Okay. Yeah, that'll be awesome. Um Thank you so much. I appreciate it. you so much. I appreciate it. you so much. I appreciate it. >> You got it. >> You got it. >> You got it. >> All right, Casey. >> All right, Casey. >> All right, Casey. >> Bye. >> Bye. >> Bye. >> Yeah, there's a there's a It's >> Yeah, there's a there's a It's >> Yeah, there's a there's a It's interesting how um interesting how um interesting how um >> I don't like you giving her freedom on >> I don't like you giving her freedom on >> I don't like you giving her freedom on the weekend. the weekend. the weekend. >> Yeah. Well, >> Yeah. Well, >> Yeah. Well, >> I don't I I I sense this. I This is why >> I don't I I I sense this. I This is why >> I don't I I I sense this. I This is why I asked. I asked. I asked. >> Does she need to be really controlled on >> Does she need to be really controlled on >> Does she need to be really controlled on the weekend? the weekend? the weekend? >> Yep. Yep. And that's exactly why I asked >> Yep. Yep. And that's exactly why I asked >> Yep. Yep. And that's exactly why I asked the question I asked and she gave me the the question I asked and she gave me the the question I asked and she gave me the answer that I thought I'd get. answer that I thought I'd get. answer that I thought I'd get. >> I'm I surmise the the worst thing that >> I'm I surmise the the worst thing that >> I'm I surmise the the worst thing that she does on the weekend is eat uh gluten she does on the weekend is eat uh gluten she does on the weekend is eat uh gluten if she is in fact reactive to it for the if she is in fact reactive to it for the if she is in fact reactive to it for the autoimmune. I think that would be the autoimmune. I think that would be the autoimmune. I think that would be the worst thing that she'd possibly do. worst thing that she'd possibly do. worst thing that she'd possibly do. Eating more, Eating more, Eating more, >> it's got its own back, you know, uh >> it's got its own back, you know, uh >> it's got its own back, you know, uh detriments, but I've worked with enough detriments, but I've worked with enough detriments, but I've worked with enough clients uh with antibodies to see that clients uh with antibodies to see that clients uh with antibodies to see that they just they would just have a tiny they just they would just have a tiny they just they would just have a tiny bit of gluten bit of gluten bit of gluten >> and they'd be crap. feel like [ __ ] for >> and they'd be crap. feel like [ __ ] for >> and they'd be crap. feel like [ __ ] for my my point to winning the weekend is my my point to winning the weekend is my my point to winning the weekend is you got to make that that that extra you got to make that that that extra you got to make that that that extra effort on that weekend to be really effort on that weekend to be really effort on that weekend to be really strict. If you're a teacher, you're or strict. If you're a teacher, you're or strict. If you're a teacher, you're or like teacher organized always. They're like teacher organized always. They're like teacher organized always. They're all they're organized with their money. all they're organized with their money. all they're organized with their money. They're organized with their schedule. They're organized with their schedule. They're organized with their schedule. So, I bet you Monday through Friday, So, I bet you Monday through Friday, So, I bet you Monday through Friday, she's dialed and locked in. And I and she's dialed and locked in. And I and she's dialed and locked in. And I and she's got high stress, hashimo, got all she's got high stress, hashimo, got all she's got high stress, hashimo, got all this stuff going on. Weekend, she's this stuff going on. Weekend, she's this stuff going on. Weekend, she's like, like, like, >> "Let go." and then that thing gets crept >> "Let go." and then that thing gets crept >> "Let go." and then that thing gets crept in the diet and whether it's a little in the diet and whether it's a little in the diet and whether it's a little bit of it like you're saying or it's bit of it like you're saying or it's bit of it like you're saying or it's like a little more than it's saying like like a little more than it's saying like like a little more than it's saying like whatever at that that's the time for her whatever at that that's the time for her whatever at that that's the time for her and she's admitted that that's it. It's and she's admitted that that's it. It's and she's admitted that that's it. It's like that I would want her tight on the like that I would want her tight on the like that I would want her tight on the weekend. Be tight on the weekend. Be weekend. Be tight on the weekend. Be weekend. Be tight on the weekend. Be strict on it. Be dialed in. Don't let strict on it. Be dialed in. Don't let strict on it. Be dialed in. Don't let anything like that into your diet and anything like that into your diet and anything like that into your diet and then I bet the rest of the week takes then I bet the rest of the week takes then I bet the rest of the week takes care of itself. So care of itself. So care of itself. So >> I disagree. >> I disagree. >> I disagree. >> Our next caller is Sharon from >> Our next caller is Sharon from >> Our next caller is Sharon from Connecticut. Connecticut. Connecticut. >> Hi Sharon. >> Hi Sharon. >> Hi Sharon. >> How you doing Sharon? >> How you doing Sharon? >> How you doing Sharon? >> What's happening? >> What's happening? >> What's happening? >> Nice to meet you guys. >> Nice to meet you guys. >> Nice to meet you guys. >> How can we help you? >> How can we help you? >> How can we help you? Um, I've been kind of just listening to Um, I've been kind of just listening to Um, I've been kind of just listening to you guys in the background for the past you guys in the background for the past you guys in the background for the past few years. Uh, my husband few years. Uh, my husband few years. Uh, my husband loves your content. It's always on the loves your content. It's always on the loves your content. It's always on the computer or on his phone, so it's always computer or on his phone, so it's always computer or on his phone, so it's always wherever the rest of the family is. Um, wherever the rest of the family is. Um, wherever the rest of the family is. Um, and he's lost about 90 lbs. He's put on and he's lost about 90 lbs. He's put on and he's lost about 90 lbs. He's put on a ton of muscle and he's used a lot of a ton of muscle and he's used a lot of a ton of muscle and he's used a lot of your content to um, I guess make that your content to um, I guess make that your content to um, I guess make that easier. and he's always like suggested easier. and he's always like suggested easier. and he's always like suggested that I should call in to get some advice that I should call in to get some advice that I should call in to get some advice and so I figured I would just try it. I and so I figured I would just try it. I and so I figured I would just try it. I wasn't really expecting a a response but wasn't really expecting a a response but wasn't really expecting a a response but um basically I have a bunch of medical um basically I have a bunch of medical um basically I have a bunch of medical stuff going on. I have um hypermobility. stuff going on. I have um hypermobility. stuff going on. I have um hypermobility. So um my joints are basically too loose. So um my joints are basically too loose. So um my joints are basically too loose. Um it's a connective tissue disorder. Um Um it's a connective tissue disorder. Um Um it's a connective tissue disorder. Um I have something called um hyperandergic I have something called um hyperandergic I have something called um hyperandergic um which is dautonomia. Um, basically um which is dautonomia. Um, basically um which is dautonomia. Um, basically there's not enough blood volume in my there's not enough blood volume in my there's not enough blood volume in my body. Um, so I have to wear compression body. Um, so I have to wear compression body. Um, so I have to wear compression garments. I use um, uh, electrolytes on garments. I use um, uh, electrolytes on garments. I use um, uh, electrolytes on a daily basis and, um, [snorts] it like a daily basis and, um, [snorts] it like a daily basis and, um, [snorts] it like just it just affects stuff that your just it just affects stuff that your just it just affects stuff that your body controls on its own. Heart rate, body controls on its own. Heart rate, body controls on its own. Heart rate, blood pressure, body temperature, blood pressure, body temperature, blood pressure, body temperature, digestion. Um, so just standing up my digestion. Um, so just standing up my digestion. Um, so just standing up my heart rate could shoot up like almost heart rate could shoot up like almost heart rate could shoot up like almost 200. My blood pressure can shoot up 200. My blood pressure can shoot up 200. My blood pressure can shoot up dangerously high, but then when I lay dangerously high, but then when I lay dangerously high, but then when I lay down, it all reser resolves. Um, so and down, it all reser resolves. Um, so and down, it all reser resolves. Um, so and then I also have something um called then I also have something um called then I also have something um called MCCAST, a histamine issue. So, it's like MCCAST, a histamine issue. So, it's like MCCAST, a histamine issue. So, it's like I have a lot of hard time working out I have a lot of hard time working out I have a lot of hard time working out because working out can trigger because working out can trigger because working out can trigger histamine release and I could get hives histamine release and I could get hives histamine release and I could get hives or angiodema. And then I done a couple or angiodema. And then I done a couple or angiodema. And then I done a couple cycles lifting with my husband like a cycles lifting with my husband like a cycles lifting with my husband like a 5x5 and a 3x7 and I did well a couple 5x5 and a 3x7 and I did well a couple 5x5 and a 3x7 and I did well a couple years ago but well last year but this years ago but well last year but this years ago but well last year but this year when I tried this whole winter I year when I tried this whole winter I year when I tried this whole winter I tried to work out and I kept injuring tried to work out and I kept injuring tried to work out and I kept injuring myself every time. And I know you guys myself every time. And I know you guys myself every time. And I know you guys have a lot of programs like I think the have a lot of programs like I think the have a lot of programs like I think the one for like in the 40s, but I was one for like in the 40s, but I was one for like in the 40s, but I was wondering if you guys had a program for wondering if you guys had a program for wondering if you guys had a program for people that are old because he told me people that are old because he told me people that are old because he told me that you guys have made progress with that you guys have made progress with that you guys have made progress with even elderly people and they have joint even elderly people and they have joint even elderly people and they have joint issues and mobility issues. And so I'm issues and mobility issues. And so I'm issues and mobility issues. And so I'm wondering like what's a way that I could wondering like what's a way that I could wondering like what's a way that I could actually make progress but without risk actually make progress but without risk actually make progress but without risk of injury. of injury. of injury. >> Yeah, it's a good good question and I >> Yeah, it's a good good question and I >> Yeah, it's a good good question and I appreciate you calling in. appreciate you calling in. appreciate you calling in. [clears throat] [clears throat] [clears throat] >> So there's a couple things we need to >> So there's a couple things we need to >> So there's a couple things we need to consider uh with exercise uh for someone consider uh with exercise uh for someone consider uh with exercise uh for someone like you. Uh, one is we have to manage like you. Uh, one is we have to manage like you. Uh, one is we have to manage intensity very carefully. I think you intensity very carefully. I think you intensity very carefully. I think you already know that. So, your intensity is already know that. So, your intensity is already know that. So, your intensity is always going to be moderate always going to be moderate always going to be moderate and you're going to treat the exercises and you're going to treat the exercises and you're going to treat the exercises like practice. So, I don't what you like practice. So, I don't what you like practice. So, I don't what you don't want to do, Sharon, is go into a don't want to do, Sharon, is go into a don't want to do, Sharon, is go into a workout trying to work out. What you're workout trying to work out. What you're workout trying to work out. What you're going to do is go into a workout trying going to do is go into a workout trying going to do is go into a workout trying to get better at uh the exercise, to get better at uh the exercise, to get better at uh the exercise, getting better at the movement. getting better at the movement. getting better at the movement. >> The second thing with hyper mobility is >> The second thing with hyper mobility is >> The second thing with hyper mobility is that you're not going to do the full that you're not going to do the full that you're not going to do the full range of motion. range of motion. range of motion. >> Yeah. So, when you see an exercise and >> Yeah. So, when you see an exercise and >> Yeah. So, when you see an exercise and you see a squat and they go all the way you see a squat and they go all the way you see a squat and they go all the way down and all the way up, that's not what down and all the way up, that's not what down and all the way up, that's not what you're going to do. you're going to do. you're going to do. >> You're going to stop and and keep your >> You're going to stop and and keep your >> You're going to stop and and keep your reps short. Uh because the those end reps short. Uh because the those end reps short. Uh because the those end ranges of motion where you'll hurt ranges of motion where you'll hurt ranges of motion where you'll hurt yourself because of the hyper mobility. yourself because of the hyper mobility. yourself because of the hyper mobility. You're also going to do things like you You're also going to do things like you You're also going to do things like you also want to do things like like also want to do things like like also want to do things like like isometrics. isometrics. isometrics. So, like uh there's a couple ways we So, like uh there's a couple ways we So, like uh there's a couple ways we could do this. One way would be and you could do this. One way would be and you could do this. One way would be and you can see me on camera. If I'm doing a can see me on camera. If I'm doing a can see me on camera. If I'm doing a shoulder press with dumbbells, normally shoulder press with dumbbells, normally shoulder press with dumbbells, normally we'd have you go let's say all the way we'd have you go let's say all the way we'd have you go let's say all the way down. I'd have you stop here. You'd hold down. I'd have you stop here. You'd hold down. I'd have you stop here. You'd hold there for five seconds. And then when there for five seconds. And then when there for five seconds. And then when you go up to the top, you'd hold there you go up to the top, you'd hold there you go up to the top, you'd hold there for five seconds. for five seconds. for five seconds. >> Okay? >> Okay? >> Okay? >> And and you would do these isometrics at >> And and you would do these isometrics at >> And and you would do these isometrics at the at these ranges of motion. Not the the at these ranges of motion. Not the the at these ranges of motion. Not the end ranges that you have, which are end ranges that you have, which are end ranges that you have, which are really deep, but cut short and then really deep, but cut short and then really deep, but cut short and then hold. Okay. hold. Okay. hold. Okay. >> Okay. Um and the intensity, a little bit >> Okay. Um and the intensity, a little bit >> Okay. Um and the intensity, a little bit of intense is okay, but really it's just of intense is okay, but really it's just of intense is okay, but really it's just about practicing uh the exercise. Uh I about practicing uh the exercise. Uh I about practicing uh the exercise. Uh I want to ask you about the electrolyte uh want to ask you about the electrolyte uh want to ask you about the electrolyte uh consumption. Do you know how much sodium consumption. Do you know how much sodium consumption. Do you know how much sodium you're taking in a day? I use um LMT and you're taking in a day? I use um LMT and you're taking in a day? I use um LMT and I basically just use a half a packet in I basically just use a half a packet in I basically just use a half a packet in almost every water bottle I drink all almost every water bottle I drink all almost every water bottle I drink all throughout the day and night. throughout the day and night. throughout the day and night. >> And how many packets do you go through a >> And how many packets do you go through a >> And how many packets do you go through a day? day? day? >> Um two to three. >> Um two to three. >> Um two to three. >> Okay, so that's 2,000 3,000 milligrams. >> Okay, so that's 2,000 3,000 milligrams. >> Okay, so that's 2,000 3,000 milligrams. And then what do you what about your And then what do you what about your And then what do you what about your diet? diet? diet? >> Um I've been trying to like cut sugar >> Um I've been trying to like cut sugar >> Um I've been trying to like cut sugar completely out because that increases completely out because that increases completely out because that increases the inflammation. the inflammation. the inflammation. >> Um same thing with I'm trying to reduce >> Um same thing with I'm trying to reduce >> Um same thing with I'm trying to reduce the processed food. My my husband eats the processed food. My my husband eats the processed food. My my husband eats like extremely clean. Like even when like extremely clean. Like even when like extremely clean. Like even when he's bulking, it's clean. he's bulking, it's clean. he's bulking, it's clean. >> Um so the the food content over the past >> Um so the the food content over the past >> Um so the the food content over the past few years in the house has just gotten a few years in the house has just gotten a few years in the house has just gotten a lot better. lot better. lot better. >> Um >> Um >> Um >> so in general, I try to Oh, I forgot to >> so in general, I try to Oh, I forgot to >> so in general, I try to Oh, I forgot to mention years and years ago, I um had mention years and years ago, I um had mention years and years ago, I um had gotten a gastric sleeve. gotten a gastric sleeve. gotten a gastric sleeve. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So the amount of food that I could eat >> So the amount of food that I could eat >> So the amount of food that I could eat isn't typical. So, I try to eat smaller isn't typical. So, I try to eat smaller isn't typical. So, I try to eat smaller meals and prioritize protein while meals and prioritize protein while meals and prioritize protein while trying to throw a little bit of, you trying to throw a little bit of, you trying to throw a little bit of, you know, fiber and a smaller bit of carbs know, fiber and a smaller bit of carbs know, fiber and a smaller bit of carbs in there as well. But I also am in my in there as well. But I also am in my in there as well. But I also am in my early 40s now. And when like just a early 40s now. And when like just a early 40s now. And when like just a couple years ago, if I just, you know, couple years ago, if I just, you know, couple years ago, if I just, you know, got strict with my diet, the weight got strict with my diet, the weight got strict with my diet, the weight would like fall off. Like my job is kind would like fall off. Like my job is kind would like fall off. Like my job is kind of active. I'm a construction worker and of active. I'm a construction worker and of active. I'm a construction worker and a truck driver, so I have really long a truck driver, so I have really long a truck driver, so I have really long shifts, like 10 to 16 hour shifts and shifts, like 10 to 16 hour shifts and shifts, like 10 to 16 hour shifts and moving around, doing stuff all night. So moving around, doing stuff all night. So moving around, doing stuff all night. So if I just was if I just ate well weight if I just was if I just ate well weight if I just was if I just ate well weight would fall off but it's like a little by would fall off but it's like a little by would fall off but it's like a little by little and putting it on it's not coming little and putting it on it's not coming little and putting it on it's not coming off like when I'm eating well it's like off like when I'm eating well it's like off like when I'm eating well it's like I think it took me two months to get I think it took me two months to get I think it took me two months to get down 5 lbs down 5 lbs down 5 lbs >> and it never used to be like that >> and it never used to be like that >> and it never used to be like that before. before. before. >> Okay. So it's going to sound crazy but I >> Okay. So it's going to sound crazy but I >> Okay. So it's going to sound crazy but I don't want you to chase any weight loss. don't want you to chase any weight loss. don't want you to chase any weight loss. I'm not saying that's not going to I'm not saying that's not going to I'm not saying that's not going to happen but I think if you chase weight happen but I think if you chase weight happen but I think if you chase weight loss you're going to move in the wrong loss you're going to move in the wrong loss you're going to move in the wrong direction with all the behaviors and direction with all the behaviors and direction with all the behaviors and actions. actions. actions. >> Um okay I I I'd like to see you play >> Um okay I I I'd like to see you play >> Um okay I I I'd like to see you play with a higher sodium intake. Okay. with a higher sodium intake. Okay. with a higher sodium intake. Okay. >> Especially with with uh the issues with >> Especially with with uh the issues with >> Especially with with uh the issues with blood pressure, uh people tend to blood pressure, uh people tend to blood pressure, uh people tend to respond better. When you started adding respond better. When you started adding respond better. When you started adding electrolytes, uh did you notice an electrolytes, uh did you notice an electrolytes, uh did you notice an improvement? improvement? improvement? >> I noticed a slight improvement. It's >> I noticed a slight improvement. It's >> I noticed a slight improvement. It's it's always better the more I drink. And it's always better the more I drink. And it's always better the more I drink. And I guess for the way my body works, the I guess for the way my body works, the I guess for the way my body works, the the water can actually work. Water the water can actually work. Water the water can actually work. Water supposed to the elect. So the the more I supposed to the elect. So the the more I supposed to the elect. So the the more I drink, the better. And the compression drink, the better. And the compression drink, the better. And the compression actually help more than anything. It's actually help more than anything. It's actually help more than anything. It's like a body. Yeah. like a body. Yeah. like a body. Yeah. >> compression or >> compression or >> compression or >> Okay. So, when you increase your sodium, >> Okay. So, when you increase your sodium, >> Okay. So, when you increase your sodium, increase your water, but but I would increase your water, but but I would increase your water, but but I would play with that a little bit. If you're play with that a little bit. If you're play with that a little bit. If you're at two to three packets a day of at two to three packets a day of at two to three packets a day of element, you could go up to to four uh element, you could go up to to four uh element, you could go up to to four uh and start there and be consistent with and start there and be consistent with and start there and be consistent with it. So, that'll include more water. it. So, that'll include more water. it. So, that'll include more water. >> Um I think I I would be it would be wise >> Um I think I I would be it would be wise >> Um I think I I would be it would be wise and I don't know how well you do this, and I don't know how well you do this, and I don't know how well you do this, but I would avoid but I would avoid but I would avoid >> foods that people tend to be reactive >> foods that people tend to be reactive >> foods that people tend to be reactive to. Uh so gluten, gluten and dairy, to. Uh so gluten, gluten and dairy, to. Uh so gluten, gluten and dairy, >> legumes and uh uh and all legumes >> legumes and uh uh and all legumes >> legumes and uh uh and all legumes including peanuts. And I would just including peanuts. And I would just including peanuts. And I would just avoid those uh to start completely like avoid those uh to start completely like avoid those uh to start completely like pretend like you got an allergy. pretend like you got an allergy. pretend like you got an allergy. >> That's really the only way to see if >> That's really the only way to see if >> That's really the only way to see if it'll make a difference. it'll make a difference. it'll make a difference. >> Um and uh yeah and then as far as a >> Um and uh yeah and then as far as a >> Um and uh yeah and then as far as a strength training program is concerned. strength training program is concerned. strength training program is concerned. >> Uh I I will send you MAP starter. Mhm. >> Uh I I will send you MAP starter. Mhm. >> Uh I I will send you MAP starter. Mhm. >> You can follow map starter, but do what >> You can follow map starter, but do what >> You can follow map starter, but do what I said I said I said >> with the range of motion and the pausing >> with the range of motion and the pausing >> with the range of motion and the pausing where you're pausing and holding and where you're pausing and holding and where you're pausing and holding and trying to stay tight at those r at those trying to stay tight at those r at those trying to stay tight at those r at those uh you know beginning end uh range of uh you know beginning end uh range of uh you know beginning end uh range of motion. motion. motion. >> So, should I do the the ranges of motion >> So, should I do the the ranges of motion >> So, should I do the the ranges of motion without weight starting out? without weight starting out? without weight starting out? >> I would start Well, I don't know how >> I would start Well, I don't know how >> I would start Well, I don't know how strong you are, but [clears throat] strong you are, but [clears throat] strong you are, but [clears throat] you're looking for a like you want to you're looking for a like you want to you're looking for a like you want to feel like you're you're you're training, feel like you're you're you're training, feel like you're you're you're training, >> but I don't want you to push yourself >> but I don't want you to push yourself >> but I don't want you to push yourself super hard. I just want you to to kind super hard. I just want you to to kind super hard. I just want you to to kind of feel of feel of feel >> the issue is it's >> the issue is it's >> the issue is it's >> Go ahead. >> Go ahead. >> Go ahead. >> I'm sorry. I apologize. Um I've I've >> I'm sorry. I apologize. Um I've I've >> I'm sorry. I apologize. Um I've I've started because he's taught me how to started because he's taught me how to started because he's taught me how to start low and move up and she goes while start low and move up and she goes while start low and move up and she goes while I'm working out I feel fine and I I'm working out I feel fine and I I'm working out I feel fine and I actually like nothing is wrong. It's not actually like nothing is wrong. It's not actually like nothing is wrong. It's not until after workout. move and I'm like, until after workout. move and I'm like, until after workout. move and I'm like, well, that doesn't fit. I did something. well, that doesn't fit. I did something. well, that doesn't fit. I did something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> And I wasn't my husband that that I >> And I wasn't my husband that that I >> And I wasn't my husband that that I might have to learn how to feel the might have to learn how to feel the might have to learn how to feel the muscles and act with the muscles and get muscles and act with the muscles and get muscles and act with the muscles and get the movements right before I add weight the movements right before I add weight the movements right before I add weight cuz I think I handle weight. I like with cuz I think I handle weight. I like with cuz I think I handle weight. I like with the 5x5. I said that I got stronger just the 5x5. I said that I got stronger just the 5x5. I said that I got stronger just last year, but it's like every every few last year, but it's like every every few last year, but it's like every every few every few days, a few weeks of winter, every few days, a few weeks of winter, every few days, a few weeks of winter, every I tried to work out and I I wasn't every I tried to work out and I I wasn't every I tried to work out and I I wasn't struggling with it, but there would be struggling with it, but there would be struggling with it, but there would be an in once I an in once I an in once I >> his his suggestion his suggestion about >> his his suggestion his suggestion about >> his his suggestion his suggestion about getting connected to the muscles is getting connected to the muscles is getting connected to the muscles is correct. And what S's advising you to do correct. And what S's advising you to do correct. And what S's advising you to do is the way you'll do that. So, if you is the way you'll do that. So, if you is the way you'll do that. So, if you just shorten all those movements up that just shorten all those movements up that just shorten all those movements up that you probably were doing with your you probably were doing with your you probably were doing with your husband, just don't go as deep, don't go husband, just don't go as deep, don't go husband, just don't go as deep, don't go as low in all the movements with weight, as low in all the movements with weight, as low in all the movements with weight, that's fine. and pause at the bottom and that's fine. and pause at the bottom and that's fine. and pause at the bottom and pause at the top. You're building pause at the top. You're building pause at the top. You're building isometrics in there that'll help you isometrics in there that'll help you isometrics in there that'll help you connect to the muscle better. connect to the muscle better. connect to the muscle better. >> Almost like a 90 degree angle like rule >> Almost like a 90 degree angle like rule >> Almost like a 90 degree angle like rule for each joint, you know, and it's kind for each joint, you know, and it's kind for each joint, you know, and it's kind of like a little bit of a standard that of like a little bit of a standard that of like a little bit of a standard that we've had as trainers is to try and kind we've had as trainers is to try and kind we've had as trainers is to try and kind of keep people within like these 90° of of keep people within like these 90° of of keep people within like these 90° of your squat or the angle with your knee, your squat or the angle with your knee, your squat or the angle with your knee, angle with, you know, your overhead angle with, you know, your overhead angle with, you know, your overhead press. Uh so just as a general kind of press. Uh so just as a general kind of press. Uh so just as a general kind of gauge but yeah to to keep that monitored gauge but yeah to to keep that monitored gauge but yeah to to keep that monitored is like your starting and then your end is like your starting and then your end is like your starting and then your end point with extension you really can't point with extension you really can't point with extension you really can't hold the isometric too long. So another hold the isometric too long. So another hold the isometric too long. So another in other words like really emphasize in other words like really emphasize in other words like really emphasize that. So that becomes more important. So that. So that becomes more important. So that. So that becomes more important. So let's say it's a they call you guys you let's say it's a they call you guys you let's say it's a they call you guys you said you did five by fives with your said you did five by fives with your said you did five by fives with your husband. So so let's say the the workout husband. So so let's say the the workout husband. So so let's say the the workout calls five by five and you only do three calls five by five and you only do three calls five by five and you only do three reps but you pause for 5 seconds at the reps but you pause for 5 seconds at the reps but you pause for 5 seconds at the bottom pie. That's fine. I'd rather that bottom pie. That's fine. I'd rather that bottom pie. That's fine. I'd rather that than you add a bunch more weight and try than you add a bunch more weight and try than you add a bunch more weight and try and get to five. It would be better for and get to five. It would be better for and get to five. It would be better for you to really emphasize the the pausing you to really emphasize the the pausing you to really emphasize the the pausing and the isometric portion. That's what's and the isometric portion. That's what's and the isometric portion. That's what's going to get you connected to going to get you connected to going to get you connected to [clears throat] the muscle better. [clears throat] the muscle better. [clears throat] the muscle better. >> So, isometrics are going to connect you >> So, isometrics are going to connect you >> So, isometrics are going to connect you better. They're going to prevent you better. They're going to prevent you better. They're going to prevent you from going too deep, which is where the from going too deep, which is where the from going too deep, which is where the injury happens. And they're also better injury happens. And they're also better injury happens. And they're also better at strengthening connective tissue and at strengthening connective tissue and at strengthening connective tissue and tendons, which is what you need. tendons, which is what you need. tendons, which is what you need. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They'll help you recruit muscle a lot >> They'll help you recruit muscle a lot >> They'll help you recruit muscle a lot better. better. better. that program that that you were talking that program that that you were talking that program that that you were talking about, is that like a certain amount of about, is that like a certain amount of about, is that like a certain amount of time, amount of days, just a few days a time, amount of days, just a few days a time, amount of days, just a few days a week? Like what is the week? Like what is the week? Like what is the >> It's three days a week. You need >> It's three days a week. You need >> It's three days a week. You need dumbbells and a physio ball. dumbbells and a physio ball. dumbbells and a physio ball. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Okay. All right. >> Okay. All right. >> Okay. All right. >> Yeah. So, you Yeah, it's pretty It's >> Yeah. So, you Yeah, it's pretty It's >> Yeah. So, you Yeah, it's pretty It's pretty accessible. One more question. Do pretty accessible. One more question. Do pretty accessible. One more question. Do you take uh high doses of vitamin C? you take uh high doses of vitamin C? you take uh high doses of vitamin C? >> Um I I Do they put C together with K? >> Um I I Do they put C together with K? >> Um I I Do they put C together with K? >> No, D is with K. >> No, D is with K. >> No, D is with K. Okay. Yeah, I think I think I have a C, Okay. Yeah, I think I think I have a C, Okay. Yeah, I think I think I have a C, but I think it's in it's in combination but I think it's in it's in combination but I think it's in it's in combination with something else for better with something else for better with something else for better absorption. I just can't remember what absorption. I just can't remember what absorption. I just can't remember what it was. it was. it was. >> I would look up So, you do this. I'm not >> I would look up So, you do this. I'm not >> I would look up So, you do this. I'm not going to recommend this, but I want you going to recommend this, but I want you going to recommend this, but I want you to look up vitamin C uh with some of to look up vitamin C uh with some of to look up vitamin C uh with some of your your your conditions and look up your your your conditions and look up your your your conditions and look up highdose vitamin C and see what the see highdose vitamin C and see what the see highdose vitamin C and see what the see what the literature says because I have what the literature says because I have what the literature says because I have a I have a a theory, a suspicion that a I have a a theory, a suspicion that a I have a a theory, a suspicion that you might find some positives. So, you'd you might find some positives. So, you'd you might find some positives. So, you'd be, you know, something like a,000 2,000 be, you know, something like a,000 2,000 be, you know, something like a,000 2,000 milligrams a day, but I would look it up milligrams a day, but I would look it up milligrams a day, but I would look it up first. Sharon. first. Sharon. first. Sharon. All right. Yeah, I'll do that. Thank All right. Yeah, I'll do that. Thank All right. Yeah, I'll do that. Thank you. you. you. >> You got it. I'll send over that program >> You got it. I'll send over that program >> You got it. I'll send over that program to you. Okay. to you. Okay. to you. Okay. >> All right. Thank you guys. I appreciate >> All right. Thank you guys. I appreciate >> All right. Thank you guys. I appreciate it very much. it very much. it very much. >> You got it. >> You got it. >> You got it. >> All right. >> All right. >> All right. >> One of the most difficult uh >> One of the most difficult uh >> One of the most difficult uh >> clients I ever had ever because I'd >> clients I ever had ever because I'd >> clients I ever had ever because I'd never experienced it before was a hyp never experienced it before was a hyp never experienced it before was a hyp someone with extreme hyper mobility. someone with extreme hyper mobility. someone with extreme hyper mobility. Could not Could not Could not >> Well, a few factors. >> Well, a few factors. >> Well, a few factors. >> I was going to say throw in the blood >> I was going to say throw in the blood >> I was going to say throw in the blood pressure. I mean, she's got a lot going pressure. I mean, she's got a lot going pressure. I mean, she's got a lot going on there. on there. on there. >> Yeah. The compression. >> Yeah. The compression. >> Yeah. The compression. >> Yeah. All that. I mean, we didn't we >> Yeah. All that. I mean, we didn't we >> Yeah. All that. I mean, we didn't we didn't recommend it, but when she didn't recommend it, but when she didn't recommend it, but when she listens to this, if you still struggle listens to this, if you still struggle listens to this, if you still struggle through this process, she'd be a great through this process, she'd be a great through this process, she'd be a great candidate for a coach. candidate for a coach. candidate for a coach. >> Of course, there's going to be a lot of >> Of course, there's going to be a lot of >> Of course, there's going to be a lot of like there's going to be a lot of like there's going to be a lot of like there's going to be a lot of >> hands-on like spotting with a form and >> hands-on like spotting with a form and >> hands-on like spotting with a form and everything. That's right. And we have everything. That's right. And we have everything. That's right. And we have coaches that can help can help you coaches that can help can help you coaches that can help can help you through this. And I through this. And I through this. And I >> Why don't you send her Doug a link is >> Why don't you send her Doug a link is >> Why don't you send her Doug a link is hey, if you want to get more, you know, hey, if you want to get more, you know, hey, if you want to get more, you know, talk with a coach. talk with a coach. talk with a coach. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Spend some more time and uh you have to >> Spend some more time and uh you have to >> Spend some more time and uh you have to set her up. cuz you you said something I set her up. cuz you you said something I set her up. cuz you you said something I think that is so key and that sometimes think that is so key and that sometimes think that is so key and that sometimes it's really easy to say it. It's very it's really easy to say it. It's very it's really easy to say it. It's very difficult for the average person to to difficult for the average person to to difficult for the average person to to understand it uh or go by it which is understand it uh or go by it which is understand it uh or go by it which is like how she feels is the is the most like how she feels is the is the most like how she feels is the is the most important part of how we how we gauge important part of how we how we gauge important part of how we how we gauge intensity intensity intensity >> uh not can she lift more weight and so >> uh not can she lift more weight and so >> uh not can she lift more weight and so sometimes that takes coaching through sometimes that takes coaching through sometimes that takes coaching through that process education that process education that process education >> I literally I had a client with hyper >> I literally I had a client with hyper >> I literally I had a client with hyper mobility and um couldn't figure it out mobility and um couldn't figure it out mobility and um couldn't figure it out until I started shortening her ranges of until I started shortening her ranges of until I started shortening her ranges of motion but she would get dizzy motion but she would get dizzy motion but she would get dizzy >> after a set of like a squat or a >> after a set of like a squat or a >> after a set of like a squat or a deadlift and I remember we would Like deadlift and I remember we would Like deadlift and I remember we would Like we'd, you know, she'd deadlift, put the we'd, you know, she'd deadlift, put the we'd, you know, she'd deadlift, put the weight down, then she'd get real dizzy. weight down, then she'd get real dizzy. weight down, then she'd get real dizzy. We'd have to sit down. And so I had to We'd have to sit down. And so I had to We'd have to sit down. And so I had to teach her to stay tight. teach her to stay tight. teach her to stay tight. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> After the set. So like after the set, >> After the set. So like after the set, >> After the set. So like after the set, I'd be like, "Keep squeezing your legs, I'd be like, "Keep squeezing your legs, I'd be like, "Keep squeezing your legs, keep squeeze keep squeeze keep squeeze them cuz her blood pressure would them cuz her blood pressure would them cuz her blood pressure would suddenly drop." And so I think there's suddenly drop." And so I think there's suddenly drop." And so I think there's there might be a correlation. there might be a correlation. there might be a correlation. >> You know what? We uh it's so rare, >> You know what? We uh it's so rare, >> You know what? We uh it's so rare, right? I think each of us probably only right? I think each of us probably only right? I think each of us probably only had a couple or a handful of of these had a couple or a handful of of these had a couple or a handful of of these clients in our entire career, so we clients in our entire career, so we clients in our entire career, so we didn't put a lot of focus on this, but didn't put a lot of focus on this, but didn't put a lot of focus on this, but it feels like we've had quite a few it feels like we've had quite a few it feels like we've had quite a few people. Yeah. might be worth writing a people. Yeah. might be worth writing a people. Yeah. might be worth writing a free guide free guide free guide >> for hyper mobility. >> for hyper mobility. >> for hyper mobility. >> Maybe >> Maybe >> Maybe >> just like a like a real real kind of >> just like a like a real real kind of >> just like a like a real real kind of generic steps on what to do and generic steps on what to do and generic steps on what to do and protocols and maybe some demos of some protocols and maybe some demos of some protocols and maybe some demos of some movements on movements on movements on >> honestly the perfect routine for someone >> honestly the perfect routine for someone >> honestly the perfect routine for someone with hyper mobility would be like three with hyper mobility would be like three with hyper mobility would be like three months of isometrics. months of isometrics. months of isometrics. >> Well, I was so what I was going to >> Well, I was so what I was going to >> Well, I was so what I was going to recommend to her I know you went the recommend to her I know you went the recommend to her I know you went the starter route was I was going to tell starter route was I was going to tell starter route was I was going to tell her to run phase one of symmetry. her to run phase one of symmetry. her to run phase one of symmetry. >> I mean that would be good too, >> I mean that would be good too, >> I mean that would be good too, >> you know, was run phase one of symmetry >> you know, was run phase one of symmetry >> you know, was run phase one of symmetry for a while. Uh-huh. Just that alone, for a while. Uh-huh. Just that alone, for a while. Uh-huh. Just that alone, especially with her condition where especially with her condition where especially with her condition where she's just like she's just like she's just like >> You know what threw me off about that >> You know what threw me off about that >> You know what threw me off about that was her histamine issue where she breaks was her histamine issue where she breaks was her histamine issue where she breaks out hives with intensity and pure out hives with intensity and pure out hives with intensity and pure isometrics or intensity. isometrics or intensity. isometrics or intensity. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like you're driving. >> Like you're driving. >> Like you're driving. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So that's the reason why I was like, uh, >> So that's the reason why I was like, uh, >> So that's the reason why I was like, uh, we'll see. we'll see. we'll see. >> Our next caller is Renee from Hawaii. >> Our next caller is Renee from Hawaii. >> Our next caller is Renee from Hawaii. >> Hi Renee. >> Hi Renee. >> Hi Renee. >> How you doing, Renee? >> How you doing, Renee? >> How you doing, Renee? >> Hello. Hello. >> Hello. Hello. >> Hello. Hello. >> Hey guys. Hi. How are you? >> Hey guys. Hi. How are you? >> Hey guys. Hi. How are you? >> Good. How can we help you? >> Good. How can we help you? >> Good. How can we help you? >> Um, well, how much time do you have? No, >> Um, well, how much time do you have? No, >> Um, well, how much time do you have? No, I'm kidding. [laughter] I'm kidding. [laughter] I'm kidding. [laughter] Thank thanks so much for taking my call Thank thanks so much for taking my call Thank thanks so much for taking my call and all the information that you guys and all the information that you guys and all the information that you guys provided over the years. Um I only just provided over the years. Um I only just provided over the years. Um I only just started listening to you guys, but started listening to you guys, but started listening to you guys, but immediately dove right in and have immediately dove right in and have immediately dove right in and have caught up on pretty much all the caught up on pretty much all the caught up on pretty much all the episodes. So um thanks for everything episodes. So um thanks for everything episodes. So um thanks for everything you guys do and Jackie for squeezing me you guys do and Jackie for squeezing me you guys do and Jackie for squeezing me in uh last minute. So um I kind of just in uh last minute. So um I kind of just in uh last minute. So um I kind of just like wrote bullet points so I don't like wrote bullet points so I don't like wrote bullet points so I don't ramble. Um so here we go. I am 39 uh 56 ramble. Um so here we go. I am 39 uh 56 ramble. Um so here we go. I am 39 uh 56 and currently weighing 160 pounds and currently weighing 160 pounds and currently weighing 160 pounds unfortunately uh roughly about 28% body unfortunately uh roughly about 28% body unfortunately uh roughly about 28% body fat. Um I'm a single mom of two boys fat. Um I'm a single mom of two boys fat. Um I'm a single mom of two boys that are 13 years apart. I had a tubal that are 13 years apart. I had a tubal that are 13 years apart. I had a tubal lation in 2020. Uh recently diagnosed lation in 2020. Uh recently diagnosed lation in 2020. Uh recently diagnosed with adenomiiosis after years of pain. with adenomiiosis after years of pain. with adenomiiosis after years of pain. So um I'm scheduled for a veno So um I'm scheduled for a veno So um I'm scheduled for a veno hyerectomy on the 10th a week from hyerectomy on the 10th a week from hyerectomy on the 10th a week from today. minimally invasive, so it should today. minimally invasive, so it should today. minimally invasive, so it should only take about like four to six weeks only take about like four to six weeks only take about like four to six weeks for healing. Um, I am a one-time bikini for healing. Um, I am a one-time bikini for healing. Um, I am a one-time bikini uh competitor after only 8 months of uh competitor after only 8 months of uh competitor after only 8 months of training. Um, I had joined a private gym training. Um, I had joined a private gym training. Um, I had joined a private gym that offered like small group personal that offered like small group personal that offered like small group personal training and did some body recmp. Then training and did some body recmp. Then training and did some body recmp. Then my goal is to stay um get stage ready uh my goal is to stay um get stage ready uh my goal is to stay um get stage ready uh for wellness for wellness for wellness um by 2028. you know, I I know I need um by 2028. you know, I I know I need um by 2028. you know, I I know I need some time to build. Um, I guess my some time to build. Um, I guess my some time to build. Um, I guess my question ultimately is like what MAPS question ultimately is like what MAPS question ultimately is like what MAPS program will kind of get me the best program will kind of get me the best program will kind of get me the best results until I can afford a coach cuz results until I can afford a coach cuz results until I can afford a coach cuz at the time I just I can't right now. at the time I just I can't right now. at the time I just I can't right now. Um, so I started in late August of 2024 Um, so I started in late August of 2024 Um, so I started in late August of 2024 at 150 lbs approximately 27 body fats. at 150 lbs approximately 27 body fats. at 150 lbs approximately 27 body fats. So pretty much where I'm at again. Um, So pretty much where I'm at again. Um, So pretty much where I'm at again. Um, when I got on stage, I was down to 126 when I got on stage, I was down to 126 when I got on stage, I was down to 126 lbs, approximately, 21% body fat. I know lbs, approximately, 21% body fat. I know lbs, approximately, 21% body fat. I know I definitely was not ready to get on I definitely was not ready to get on I definitely was not ready to get on stage, but um, I wanted the experience. stage, but um, I wanted the experience. stage, but um, I wanted the experience. I had a less than favorable coach uh, I had a less than favorable coach uh, I had a less than favorable coach uh, approaching that date. Um, but had a approaching that date. Um, but had a approaching that date. Um, but had a great experience nonetheless. jumped great experience nonetheless. jumped great experience nonetheless. jumped head first into getting my CBT um cuz I head first into getting my CBT um cuz I head first into getting my CBT um cuz I loved fitness and wanted to help other loved fitness and wanted to help other loved fitness and wanted to help other people with it post show. I had zero people with it post show. I had zero people with it post show. I had zero guidance with the reverse dieting. So um guidance with the reverse dieting. So um guidance with the reverse dieting. So um just kind of misspiggied it for a little just kind of misspiggied it for a little just kind of misspiggied it for a little while. Um then I had a car accident in while. Um then I had a car accident in while. Um then I had a car accident in September that I totaled my car which um September that I totaled my car which um September that I totaled my car which um broke some of my toes that affected my broke some of my toes that affected my broke some of my toes that affected my balance and I have a had a bruised balance and I have a had a bruised balance and I have a had a bruised sternum which um also affected some of sternum which um also affected some of sternum which um also affected some of my exercises with like range of motion. my exercises with like range of motion. my exercises with like range of motion. Um I had uh recently been hired at UFC Um I had uh recently been hired at UFC Um I had uh recently been hired at UFC um as a personal trainer. No clients um um as a personal trainer. No clients um um as a personal trainer. No clients um as of yet though. Um, I was doing an as of yet though. Um, I was doing an as of yet though. Um, I was doing an assessment with one of the other assessment with one of the other assessment with one of the other trainers and they had pointed out some trainers and they had pointed out some trainers and they had pointed out some things that I didn't realize I was doing things that I didn't realize I was doing things that I didn't realize I was doing incorrectly. Turns out the entire time I incorrectly. Turns out the entire time I incorrectly. Turns out the entire time I was I was training at that small private was I was training at that small private was I was training at that small private gym, I was not bracing my core and no gym, I was not bracing my core and no gym, I was not bracing my core and no wonder I was getting hurt all of the wonder I was getting hurt all of the wonder I was getting hurt all of the time. So, I started doing some uh time. So, I started doing some uh time. So, I started doing some uh unilateral training and some corrective unilateral training and some corrective unilateral training and some corrective exercises cuz I have like a like a real exercises cuz I have like a like a real exercises cuz I have like a like a real bad anterior pelvic tilt. So, I know I bad anterior pelvic tilt. So, I know I bad anterior pelvic tilt. So, I know I need some deep core work. um obviously need some deep core work. um obviously need some deep core work. um obviously post-reovery and um some help on my post-reovery and um some help on my post-reovery and um some help on my LPHC. I want to practice some LPHC. I want to practice some LPHC. I want to practice some diaphragmic breathing to kind of um diaphragmic breathing to kind of um diaphragmic breathing to kind of um support that. I'm concerned about my support that. I'm concerned about my support that. I'm concerned about my weak pelvic floor. Um also I believe I'm weak pelvic floor. Um also I believe I'm weak pelvic floor. Um also I believe I'm I have hyper mobility. So I'm I'm when I have hyper mobility. So I'm I'm when I have hyper mobility. So I'm I'm when I'm doing any overhead stuff or I'm doing any overhead stuff or I'm doing any overhead stuff or whatever, like I get the clicking in my whatever, like I get the clicking in my whatever, like I get the clicking in my shoulders, I'm constantly hyperextending shoulders, I'm constantly hyperextending shoulders, I'm constantly hyperextending my knees. So then I have pain there, my my knees. So then I have pain there, my my knees. So then I have pain there, my hips. [gasps] So, I've been trying to to hips. [gasps] So, I've been trying to to hips. [gasps] So, I've been trying to to do some corre corrective exercises for do some corre corrective exercises for do some corre corrective exercises for that. Um, and because of that, I've been that. Um, and because of that, I've been that. Um, and because of that, I've been avoiding the barbell exercises like avoiding the barbell exercises like avoiding the barbell exercises like completely because, you guessed it, I'm completely because, you guessed it, I'm completely because, you guessed it, I'm afraid to get hurt. Um, so I'm trying afraid to get hurt. Um, so I'm trying afraid to get hurt. Um, so I'm trying not to focus on the numbers because I not to focus on the numbers because I not to focus on the numbers because I know that I need to build into a know that I need to build into a know that I need to build into a wellness body. I need to feed that. Um, wellness body. I need to feed that. Um, wellness body. I need to feed that. Um, but I have problems with my nutrition. but I have problems with my nutrition. but I have problems with my nutrition. That's that's why I feel like I have That's that's why I feel like I have That's that's why I feel like I have gained most of the weight back. Um I gained most of the weight back. Um I gained most of the weight back. Um I have a problem with like emotional or have a problem with like emotional or have a problem with like emotional or stress eating kind of thing. Um I have stress eating kind of thing. Um I have stress eating kind of thing. Um I have to like force myself to eat during the to like force myself to eat during the to like force myself to eat during the day because I'm not hungry. Even right day because I'm not hungry. Even right day because I'm not hungry. Even right after the gym, I'm kind of just still on after the gym, I'm kind of just still on after the gym, I'm kind of just still on the move. Keep go. Um so then at night the move. Keep go. Um so then at night the move. Keep go. Um so then at night it catches up to me. And I know all of it catches up to me. And I know all of it catches up to me. And I know all of this. I have body awareness. I just need this. I have body awareness. I just need this. I have body awareness. I just need to like get to it. Um the adeninoiiosis to like get to it. Um the adeninoiiosis to like get to it. Um the adeninoiiosis makes it difficult for me to stay makes it difficult for me to stay makes it difficult for me to stay consistent. Um some days I'm super super consistent. Um some days I'm super super consistent. Um some days I'm super super tired, can't get out of bed, uh crazy tired, can't get out of bed, uh crazy tired, can't get out of bed, uh crazy pain. So I'm really looking forward to pain. So I'm really looking forward to pain. So I'm really looking forward to the hyerectomy and having all of that um the hyerectomy and having all of that um the hyerectomy and having all of that um you know hopefully taken care of. My uh you know hopefully taken care of. My uh you know hopefully taken care of. My uh my sleep is um averaging around 6 hours my sleep is um averaging around 6 hours my sleep is um averaging around 6 hours if I'm lucky, but it is nonrestorative. if I'm lucky, but it is nonrestorative. if I'm lucky, but it is nonrestorative. So, um, poor REM sleep for sure. I take So, um, poor REM sleep for sure. I take So, um, poor REM sleep for sure. I take creatine every day, multivitamins, creatine every day, multivitamins, creatine every day, multivitamins, uh, omega-3 fish oil, EAAS as I work uh, omega-3 fish oil, EAAS as I work uh, omega-3 fish oil, EAAS as I work out, and I am starting the Ziotic, uh, out, and I am starting the Ziotic, uh, out, and I am starting the Ziotic, uh, sugar to fiber, um, to hopefully help sugar to fiber, um, to hopefully help sugar to fiber, um, to hopefully help with everything um, post. So, yeah, I with everything um, post. So, yeah, I with everything um, post. So, yeah, I just really was hoping for some just really was hoping for some just really was hoping for some suggestions on like the MAT 15 programs suggestions on like the MAT 15 programs suggestions on like the MAT 15 programs cuz I live super close to my gym. um at cuz I live super close to my gym. um at cuz I live super close to my gym. um at least until I can afford to start work least until I can afford to start work least until I can afford to start work really working with a coach. really working with a coach. really working with a coach. >> Yeah, thanks for calling in. >> Yeah, thanks for calling in. >> Yeah, thanks for calling in. >> Yeah, Rene, can I ask the what's the >> Yeah, Rene, can I ask the what's the >> Yeah, Rene, can I ask the what's the motivation of the competing? motivation of the competing? motivation of the competing? >> Um, >> Um, >> Um, honestly, it really made me feel good. honestly, it really made me feel good. honestly, it really made me feel good. Uh, the sense of accomplishment. Um, Uh, the sense of accomplishment. Um, Uh, the sense of accomplishment. Um, yeah. I I don't I don't know. I I liked yeah. I I don't I don't know. I I liked yeah. I I don't I don't know. I I liked the structure of that lifestyle when I the structure of that lifestyle when I the structure of that lifestyle when I was doing it. I felt like I was in was doing it. I felt like I was in was doing it. I felt like I was in control of of you know my life pretty control of of you know my life pretty control of of you know my life pretty much much much >> cuz I hate it for you. Just so you know. >> cuz I hate it for you. Just so you know. >> cuz I hate it for you. Just so you know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh no. >> Oh no. >> Oh no. >> Do you Well, let's back up for a second. >> Do you Well, let's back up for a second. >> Do you Well, let's back up for a second. You got a lot of stuff going on. You got a lot of stuff going on. You got a lot of stuff going on. >> Let's be sensitive. >> Let's be sensitive. >> Let's be sensitive. >> Yeah, you do, honey. And I think you >> Yeah, you do, honey. And I think you >> Yeah, you do, honey. And I think you might have liked it and you tell me if might have liked it and you tell me if might have liked it and you tell me if I'm wrong. Okay. Uh you said it gave you I'm wrong. Okay. Uh you said it gave you I'm wrong. Okay. Uh you said it gave you a sense of may give you some meaning, a sense of may give you some meaning, a sense of may give you some meaning, some purpose some purpose some purpose >> and it felt like you were in control uh >> and it felt like you were in control uh >> and it felt like you were in control uh when other things feel out of control. when other things feel out of control. when other things feel out of control. >> Yeah. and like you know that that sense >> Yeah. and like you know that that sense >> Yeah. and like you know that that sense of accomplishment of like cuz I have of accomplishment of like cuz I have of accomplishment of like cuz I have very low self-esteem. Um so when I got very low self-esteem. Um so when I got very low self-esteem. Um so when I got up there it was difficult because I was up there it was difficult because I was up there it was difficult because I was like oh my god I have to pretend that like oh my god I have to pretend that like oh my god I have to pretend that I'm confident in this right now but I'm I'm confident in this right now but I'm I'm confident in this right now but I'm really like don't look at me. really like don't look at me. really like don't look at me. >> I don't want to be >> I don't want to be >> I don't want to be >> I get that. No I get it. It was a hard >> I get that. No I get it. It was a hard >> I get that. No I get it. It was a hard thing and you did it. thing and you did it. thing and you did it. >> But you did it. I don't think you I >> But you did it. I don't think you I >> But you did it. I don't think you I don't think it's a good idea to do it don't think it's a good idea to do it don't think it's a good idea to do it again. again. again. >> That's right. You already proved it. You >> That's right. You already proved it. You >> That's right. You already proved it. You proved you could do it. proved you could do it. proved you could do it. >> And and um you got a hyerectomy coming >> And and um you got a hyerectomy coming >> And and um you got a hyerectomy coming up. So, you're going to be on hormone up. So, you're going to be on hormone up. So, you're going to be on hormone therapy after you get off? therapy after you get off? therapy after you get off? >> I'm hoping so. Um, we haven't really >> I'm hoping so. Um, we haven't really >> I'm hoping so. Um, we haven't really discussed it that part, but I believe discussed it that part, but I believe discussed it that part, but I believe I'm keeping my ovaries, so I'm I'm not I'm keeping my ovaries, so I'm I'm not I'm keeping my ovaries, so I'm I'm not sure if Yeah. sure if Yeah. sure if Yeah. >> Okay. Okay. You got a lot of stuff going >> Okay. Okay. You got a lot of stuff going >> Okay. Okay. You got a lot of stuff going on, hun. And I think you need a break. on, hun. And I think you need a break. on, hun. And I think you need a break. Uh, the sleep would be the first place I Uh, the sleep would be the first place I Uh, the sleep would be the first place I would look. would look. would look. >> Can I ask you some personal questions? >> Can I ask you some personal questions? >> Can I ask you some personal questions? >> Sure. [clears throat] >> Sure. [clears throat] >> Sure. [clears throat] >> Do you drink or smoke weed? >> Do you drink or smoke weed? >> Do you drink or smoke weed? >> I do smoke weed, yes. Um, and not so >> I do smoke weed, yes. Um, and not so >> I do smoke weed, yes. Um, and not so much drink. Okay. Occasionally. much drink. Okay. Occasionally. much drink. Okay. Occasionally. >> Okay. Okay. So, the weed is really going >> Okay. Okay. So, the weed is really going >> Okay. Okay. So, the weed is really going to affect your restorative sleep in a to affect your restorative sleep in a to affect your restorative sleep in a negative way. negative way. negative way. >> Yeah. That's what's killing your RAM. >> Yeah. That's what's killing your RAM. >> Yeah. That's what's killing your RAM. >> Yeah. That that'll kill your RAM. >> Yeah. That that'll kill your RAM. >> Yeah. That that'll kill your RAM. >> That'll shut the RAM right off. >> That'll shut the RAM right off. >> That'll shut the RAM right off. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> [ __ ] >> [ __ ] >> [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And so, what you can do what you would >> And so, what you can do what you would >> And so, what you can do what you would do is uh you would you try to really do is uh you would you try to really do is uh you would you try to really reduce that and come off of it. Um and reduce that and come off of it. Um and reduce that and come off of it. Um and then if you feel like you need help uh then if you feel like you need help uh then if you feel like you need help uh with the canabonoid withdrawal, you with the canabonoid withdrawal, you with the canabonoid withdrawal, you could stick to just CBD. Um, and you're could stick to just CBD. Um, and you're could stick to just CBD. Um, and you're going to go through, I don't know, a going to go through, I don't know, a going to go through, I don't know, a couple weeks to a month where it's going couple weeks to a month where it's going couple weeks to a month where it's going to feel a little worse, but that kills to feel a little worse, but that kills to feel a little worse, but that kills that kills restorative sleep. I mean, that kills restorative sleep. I mean, that kills restorative sleep. I mean, that's that's a very very well that's that's a very very well that's that's a very very well documented effect of uh of THC in documented effect of uh of THC in documented effect of uh of THC in particular. particular. particular. >> So, I would try >> So, I would try >> So, I would try >> here. I've been doing it thinking it's >> here. I've been doing it thinking it's >> here. I've been doing it thinking it's going to help me sleep. going to help me sleep. going to help me sleep. >> Well, it helps you fall asleep, and I >> Well, it helps you fall asleep, and I >> Well, it helps you fall asleep, and I can I can uh attest to that feeling. Uh, can I can uh attest to that feeling. Uh, can I can uh attest to that feeling. Uh, I was a every night weed smoker myself. I was a every night weed smoker myself. I was a every night weed smoker myself. Um, and so it helps you fall asleep, but Um, and so it helps you fall asleep, but Um, and so it helps you fall asleep, but then you don't get REM. then you don't get REM. then you don't get REM. >> It's that's the problem with it. >> It's that's the problem with it. >> It's that's the problem with it. >> Yeah. Notice you you probably don't >> Yeah. Notice you you probably don't >> Yeah. Notice you you probably don't dream either. You know, you you don't dream either. You know, you you don't dream either. You know, you you don't dream probably much if ever. dream probably much if ever. dream probably much if ever. >> You'll get really crazy dreams when you >> You'll get really crazy dreams when you >> You'll get really crazy dreams when you come off. Yeah. You get really vivid, come off. Yeah. You get really vivid, come off. Yeah. You get really vivid, wild dreams when you come off. wild dreams when you come off. wild dreams when you come off. >> So, you know, I just look at that. >> So, you know, I just look at that. >> So, you know, I just look at that. Really focus on your sleep. Really focus on your sleep. Really focus on your sleep. >> Maps 15 is the right program for you. >> Maps 15 is the right program for you. >> Maps 15 is the right program for you. >> Um and now you said you can't afford >> Um and now you said you can't afford >> Um and now you said you can't afford coaching. How much does coaching what do coaching. How much does coaching what do coaching. How much does coaching what do you what do you think it costs? Like you what do you think it costs? Like you what do you think it costs? Like what's the idea uh that you have on how what's the idea uh that you have on how what's the idea uh that you have on how much you would have to spend on a coach? much you would have to spend on a coach? much you would have to spend on a coach? Um I I believe roughly about like 4 or Um I I believe roughly about like 4 or Um I I believe roughly about like 4 or 500 a month like right now. Um 500 a month like right now. Um 500 a month like right now. Um >> so about a year or two ago I had uh left >> so about a year or two ago I had uh left >> so about a year or two ago I had uh left a domestic violence situation to where a domestic violence situation to where a domestic violence situation to where my my Yeah. So my my son and I my two my my Yeah. So my my son and I my two my my Yeah. So my my son and I my two sons and I had to restart um over again sons and I had to restart um over again sons and I had to restart um over again and now I'm in public housing kind of and now I'm in public housing kind of and now I'm in public housing kind of thing. So like I I Yeah. So it's like thing. So like I I Yeah. So it's like thing. So like I I Yeah. So it's like really limited and only just got the job really limited and only just got the job really limited and only just got the job um as a personal trainer. So, not very um as a personal trainer. So, not very um as a personal trainer. So, not very many. many. many. >> Congratulations on that. >> Congratulations on that. >> Congratulations on that. >> Oh, thank you. >> Oh, thank you. >> Oh, thank you. >> So, what I'm going to do this, Rene, I'm >> So, what I'm going to do this, Rene, I'm >> So, what I'm going to do this, Rene, I'm going to give you 30 days. I'm going to going to give you 30 days. I'm going to going to give you 30 days. I'm going to give you free coaching for 30 days with give you free coaching for 30 days with give you free coaching for 30 days with one of our coaches. one of our coaches. one of our coaches. >> And if you like it if you like it after >> And if you like it if you like it after >> And if you like it if you like it after that, we have something called concierge that, we have something called concierge that, we have something called concierge coaching, which is a lot less than the coaching, which is a lot less than the coaching, which is a lot less than the number you said. number you said. number you said. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> The reason why I said that is there's a >> The reason why I said that is there's a >> The reason why I said that is there's a lot of stuff going on here and I could lot of stuff going on here and I could lot of stuff going on here and I could throw advice at you, but I think it throw advice at you, but I think it throw advice at you, but I think it would be a good idea to have somebody would be a good idea to have somebody would be a good idea to have somebody kind of guide you kind of guide you kind of guide you >> like step by step. >> like step by step. >> like step by step. >> Step by step, >> Step by step, >> Step by step, >> attack one thing at a time here. >> attack one thing at a time here. >> attack one thing at a time here. >> Yeah. you know, we're going to we would >> Yeah. you know, we're going to we would >> Yeah. you know, we're going to we would look at diet, you know, make sure you look at diet, you know, make sure you look at diet, you know, make sure you hit your protein, be consistent with hit your protein, be consistent with hit your protein, be consistent with that, but really it's about caring about that, but really it's about caring about that, but really it's about caring about yourself on yourself on yourself on >> like really treating yourself like >> like really treating yourself like >> like really treating yourself like somebody who deserves to be cared for somebody who deserves to be cared for somebody who deserves to be cared for >> is what's going to drive all the right >> is what's going to drive all the right >> is what's going to drive all the right behaviors. behaviors. behaviors. >> Looking for feeling like um a show is >> Looking for feeling like um a show is >> Looking for feeling like um a show is going to make you feel like you have going to make you feel like you have going to make you feel like you have value is the wrong direction, especially value is the wrong direction, especially value is the wrong direction, especially one that judges you by the way you look. one that judges you by the way you look. one that judges you by the way you look. >> Uh it could definitely swing in the >> Uh it could definitely swing in the >> Uh it could definitely swing in the opposite direction. I love that you're a opposite direction. I love that you're a opposite direction. I love that you're a personal trainer personal trainer personal trainer >> because I'm going to tell you something >> because I'm going to tell you something >> because I'm going to tell you something right now. you start training people and right now. you start training people and right now. you start training people and you start helping other people, that's you start helping other people, that's you start helping other people, that's going to make you feel so good. going to make you feel so good. going to make you feel so good. >> Yeah. I want to equip equip you with >> Yeah. I want to equip equip you with >> Yeah. I want to equip equip you with with Prime Pro mainly because of what with Prime Pro mainly because of what with Prime Pro mainly because of what you also mentioned with your bracing and you also mentioned with your bracing and you also mentioned with your bracing and just a lot of the techniques in there, just a lot of the techniques in there, just a lot of the techniques in there, even restorative techniques after your even restorative techniques after your even restorative techniques after your your uh procedure and everything else your uh procedure and everything else your uh procedure and everything else just to get you to learn uh really then just to get you to learn uh really then just to get you to learn uh really then on yourself and then how you can apply on yourself and then how you can apply on yourself and then how you can apply that to your clients as well, I think that to your clients as well, I think that to your clients as well, I think would be like super valuable. Yeah, I I would be like super valuable. Yeah, I I would be like super valuable. Yeah, I I think prime pro plus as a trainer, just think prime pro plus as a trainer, just think prime pro plus as a trainer, just as a trainer, that's going to be so as a trainer, that's going to be so as a trainer, that's going to be so valuable for you. It's going to make you valuable for you. It's going to make you valuable for you. It's going to make you really valuable as a trainer really valuable as a trainer really valuable as a trainer >> in the UFC gym. >> in the UFC gym. >> in the UFC gym. >> And then are you responsible for getting >> And then are you responsible for getting >> And then are you responsible for getting your own clients or do they set you up? your own clients or do they set you up? your own clients or do they set you up? >> Um, so they have set me up with one. Um, >> Um, so they have set me up with one. Um, >> Um, so they have set me up with one. Um, but yeah, I'm pretty much responsible but yeah, I'm pretty much responsible but yeah, I'm pretty much responsible for kind of getting my own. Um, and I'm for kind of getting my own. Um, and I'm for kind of getting my own. Um, and I'm I'm not very Hi, I'm Renee. Nice to meet I'm not very Hi, I'm Renee. Nice to meet I'm not very Hi, I'm Renee. Nice to meet you. Like I I I never have been. So, you. Like I I I never have been. So, you. Like I I I never have been. So, that's where I've been really struggling that's where I've been really struggling that's where I've been really struggling with the like I'm almost I was almost with the like I'm almost I was almost with the like I'm almost I was almost kind of giving up on it because I kind of giving up on it because I kind of giving up on it because I haven't I'm not very haven't I'm not very haven't I'm not very >> Rene, I'm going to do I'm going to do >> Rene, I'm going to do I'm going to do >> Rene, I'm going to do I'm going to do something I've never I've never done something I've never I've never done something I've never I've never done before at the at the at the possibly before at the at the at the possibly before at the at the at the possibly angering my partners. I'm going to give angering my partners. I'm going to give angering my partners. I'm going to give you our course our certification course you our course our certification course you our course our certification course for free. for free. for free. >> Wow. What the the >> Wow. What the the >> Wow. What the the >> Yeah. I'm already >> Yeah. I'm already >> Yeah. I'm already >> I'm already like was in there cuz when >> I'm already like was in there cuz when >> I'm already like was in there cuz when you first um started it I I got in but you first um started it I I got in but you first um started it I I got in but then I was like oh I can't you know then I was like oh I can't you know then I was like oh I can't you know >> it's a it's a costly course but it is >> it's a it's a costly course but it is >> it's a it's a costly course but it is recognized by by the national recognized by by the national recognized by by the national certifications and it's going to help certifications and it's going to help certifications and it's going to help you build your business. That's what you build your business. That's what you build your business. That's what it's focused on. it's focused on. it's focused on. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. >> All right. >> All right. >> Cuz cuz I do have like a a bigger um >> Cuz cuz I do have like a a bigger um >> Cuz cuz I do have like a a bigger um long-term goal of like doing a nonprofit long-term goal of like doing a nonprofit long-term goal of like doing a nonprofit for women um who are surviving domestic for women um who are surviving domestic for women um who are surviving domestic violence to get um memberships. violence to get um memberships. violence to get um memberships. to the gym to to the gym to to the gym to >> Listen, Rene, here's what I want you to >> Listen, Rene, here's what I want you to >> Listen, Rene, here's what I want you to do. You're going to work with one of our do. You're going to work with one of our do. You're going to work with one of our coaches. coaches. coaches. >> I don't want you to do a show. I don't >> I don't want you to do a show. I don't >> I don't want you to do a show. I don't think that's a good idea. think that's a good idea. think that's a good idea. >> Focus on sleep. I really want you to >> Focus on sleep. I really want you to >> Focus on sleep. I really want you to make that a focus. It's going to take make that a focus. It's going to take make that a focus. It's going to take you about 30 to 60 days to really fix you about 30 to 60 days to really fix you about 30 to 60 days to really fix that. Okay? So, just give some time. And that. Okay? So, just give some time. And that. Okay? So, just give some time. And then when you get our course, open it then when you get our course, open it then when you get our course, open it and watch the videos and build your and watch the videos and build your and watch the videos and build your business. That's right now. The most business. That's right now. The most business. That's right now. The most important thing you could do that I important thing you could do that I important thing you could do that I think will help you in all the areas think will help you in all the areas think will help you in all the areas that you're going to feel the best are that you're going to feel the best are that you're going to feel the best are going to be starting to build a client going to be starting to build a client going to be starting to build a client base. base. base. >> Yeah, I agree. It's gonna it's going to >> Yeah, I agree. It's gonna it's going to >> Yeah, I agree. It's gonna it's going to really give you all the things you're really give you all the things you're really give you all the things you're looking for. It really will because I I looking for. It really will because I I looking for. It really will because I I I feel like you're going to help people. I feel like you're going to help people. I feel like you're going to help people. I feel like training people is going to I feel like training people is going to I feel like training people is going to make you feel good. It's going to help make you feel good. It's going to help make you feel good. It's going to help you reflect on yourself. It's going to you reflect on yourself. It's going to you reflect on yourself. It's going to give you a sense of purpose. give you a sense of purpose. give you a sense of purpose. >> It's a wonderful career. And our course, >> It's a wonderful career. And our course, >> It's a wonderful career. And our course, what it does is it helps trainers build what it does is it helps trainers build what it does is it helps trainers build their business. That's the main focus of their business. That's the main focus of their business. That's the main focus of it. it. it. >> If you're not already listening to the >> If you're not already listening to the >> If you're not already listening to the Elite Trainer podcast, too. Listen to Elite Trainer podcast, too. Listen to Elite Trainer podcast, too. Listen to that, which is all of our Yeah. Yeah. that, which is all of our Yeah. Yeah. that, which is all of our Yeah. Yeah. That's uh that's on Elite Trainer That's uh that's on Elite Trainer That's uh that's on Elite Trainer Podcast. Podcast. Podcast. >> Is that under the Mind Pump? Is that >> Is that under the Mind Pump? Is that >> Is that under the Mind Pump? Is that Mind Pump? No, it's got its own um Yeah, Mind Pump? No, it's got its own um Yeah, Mind Pump? No, it's got its own um Yeah, it's got it own. it's got it own. it's got it own. >> Yeah, you look up on YouTube Elite >> Yeah, you look up on YouTube Elite >> Yeah, you look up on YouTube Elite Trainer Podcast and those are our Trainer Podcast and those are our Trainer Podcast and those are our coaches and trainers and that's all coaches and trainers and that's all coaches and trainers and that's all they're doing is helping other coaches they're doing is helping other coaches they're doing is helping other coaches and trainers be better coaches. and trainers be better coaches. and trainers be better coaches. >> I'm going to have you come back on here >> I'm going to have you come back on here >> I'm going to have you come back on here and um let me have you back on in 30 and um let me have you back on in 30 and um let me have you back on in 30 days. And what I'd like to hear is days. And what I'd like to hear is days. And what I'd like to hear is hopefully you get a client or two within hopefully you get a client or two within hopefully you get a client or two within that period of time. Okay. And we'll that period of time. Okay. And we'll that period of time. Okay. And we'll talk to you then. talk to you then. talk to you then. >> Well, I was kind of hesitant because of >> Well, I was kind of hesitant because of >> Well, I was kind of hesitant because of the the surgery like I'm going to be the the surgery like I'm going to be the the surgery like I'm going to be out. So, how do I get clients if I'm out. So, how do I get clients if I'm out. So, how do I get clients if I'm >> Oh, that's when's the surgery schedule? >> Oh, that's when's the surgery schedule? >> Oh, that's when's the surgery schedule? >> When is the schedule? or a a week from >> When is the schedule? or a a week from >> When is the schedule? or a a week from today on the 10th. today on the 10th. today on the 10th. >> Let's have you on. Let's have you on in >> Let's have you on. Let's have you on in >> Let's have you on. Let's have you on in 60 days then. So, give you some time. 60 days then. So, give you some time. 60 days then. So, give you some time. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Thank you. Awesome, guys. Thanks >> Yeah. Thank you. Awesome, guys. Thanks >> Yeah. Thank you. Awesome, guys. Thanks so much. This is great. so much. This is great. so much. This is great. >> All right. We'll see you then. Yeah. >> All right. We'll see you then. Yeah. >> All right. We'll see you then. Yeah. It's worst thing she could do is get on It's worst thing she could do is get on It's worst thing she could do is get on stage. [laughter] stage. [laughter] stage. [laughter] >> Uh >> Uh >> Uh >> oh, man. But so what people didn't see, >> oh, man. But so what people didn't see, >> oh, man. But so what people didn't see, she brought it up, but what I saw in her she brought it up, but what I saw in her she brought it up, but what I saw in her email was uh she escaped uh an abusive email was uh she escaped uh an abusive email was uh she escaped uh an abusive relationship relationship relationship >> and so she had to get away from that. >> and so she had to get away from that. >> and so she had to get away from that. She's got an issue where she has to get She's got an issue where she has to get She's got an issue where she has to get a hysterctomy. That's a big deal. Yeah, a hysterctomy. That's a big deal. Yeah, a hysterctomy. That's a big deal. Yeah, >> that's a big surgery. She started a new >> that's a big surgery. She started a new >> that's a big surgery. She started a new job, which I love what she's doing, but job, which I love what she's doing, but job, which I love what she's doing, but that's a brand new job. that's a brand new job. that's a brand new job. >> Public housing. The last thing she >> Public housing. The last thing she >> Public housing. The last thing she should do is like attempt to shred her should do is like attempt to shred her should do is like attempt to shred her body down with poor sleep and all that body down with poor sleep and all that body down with poor sleep and all that stuff. stuff. stuff. >> Uh it's the last thing she should do. So >> Uh it's the last thing she should do. So >> Uh it's the last thing she should do. So hopefully what happens is, this is what hopefully what happens is, this is what hopefully what happens is, this is what I meant when I said that I think I meant when I said that I think I meant when I said that I think training people is going to solve a lot training people is going to solve a lot training people is going to solve a lot of this. She starts to build a business of this. She starts to build a business of this. She starts to build a business and starts to help people. and starts to help people. and starts to help people. >> It's going to feel so great. >> It's going to feel so great. >> It's going to feel so great. >> You can't help that. You can't help but >> You can't help that. You can't help but >> You can't help that. You can't help but reflect on yourself. reflect on yourself. reflect on yourself. >> Yeah. Yeah. While you're doing that, you >> Yeah. Yeah. While you're doing that, you >> Yeah. Yeah. While you're doing that, you know, as you're coach saved me as you're know, as you're coach saved me as you're know, as you're coach saved me as you're coaching somebody, you're going like, I coaching somebody, you're going like, I coaching somebody, you're going like, I need this myself. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, need this myself. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, need this myself. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think it's a it's a I think it's a I think it's a it's a I think it's a I think it's a it's a I think it's a great advice. great advice. great advice. >> And the there's so much going on here >> And the there's so much going on here >> And the there's so much going on here that a blanket prescription of go do all that a blanket prescription of go do all that a blanket prescription of go do all these things won't do anything. these things won't do anything. these things won't do anything. >> The quitting the quitting weed or coming >> The quitting the quitting weed or coming >> The quitting the quitting weed or coming off weed would be the one thing that I off weed would be the one thing that I off weed would be the one thing that I would, you know, that itself is is going would, you know, that itself is is going would, you know, that itself is is going to be a process, you know. So, it's like to be a process, you know. So, it's like to be a process, you know. So, it's like that then the diet, then the like that then the diet, then the like that then the diet, then the like training properly like Yeah. There's so training properly like Yeah. There's so training properly like Yeah. There's so there's there's so much there that you there's there's so much there that you there's there's so much there that you would want to tackle those things one at would want to tackle those things one at would want to tackle those things one at a time and and start to build. And the a time and and start to build. And the a time and and start to build. And the main focus for her needs to be to to get main focus for her needs to be to to get main focus for her needs to be to to get healthy. healthy. healthy. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> To get healthy, to sleep good, to feel >> To get healthy, to sleep good, to feel >> To get healthy, to sleep good, to feel good. Um not go get ready to get ready good. Um not go get ready to get ready good. Um not go get ready to get ready for a show. Absolutely not. for a show. Absolutely not. for a show. Absolutely not. >> All right. I know you like that episode. >> All right. I know you like that episode. >> All right. I know you like that episode. If you did, check this one out. 30% If you did, check this one out. 30% If you did, check this one out. 30% [music] [music] [music] body fat for men. This is way too high. body fat for men. This is way too high. body fat for men. This is way too high. This is actually a bit high for women as This is actually a bit high for women as This is actually a bit high for women as well. So, in today's episode, we're well. So, in today's episode, we're well. So, in today's episode, we're talking about how you can go from 30 to talking about how you can go from 30 to talking about how you can go from 30 to 10. What is 10% body fat? This is when 10. What is 10% body fat? This is when 10. What is 10% body fat? This is when you have a visible six-pack. Can you go you have a visible six-pack. Can you go you have a visible six-pack. Can you go from 30 to 10%, yes, it's possible, but from 30 to 10%, yes, it's possible, but from 30 to 10%, yes, it's possible, but not if you guess along the way. So, not if you guess along the way. So, not if you guess along the way. So, we're going to talk about how you can do we're going to talk about how you can do we're going to talk about how you can do that in today's episode. that in today's episode. that in today's episode. >> Now, there's a huge range, right, of >> Now, there's a huge range, right, of >> Now, there's a huge range, right, of like body types. Some people can run uh like body types. Some people can run uh like body types. Some people can run uh a little bit heavier uh and or a little a little bit heavier uh and or a little a little bit heavier uh and or a little bit higher