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60. Money Laundering | The Economics of Everyday Things

Make your financial trail easy to explain: today, create a simple folder for major deposits, transfers, invoices, gifts, and asset sales, including the source, date, and supporting document. Do not split cash transactions to avoid reporting thresholds—this can itself be illegal “structuring.” Clean

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Key Takeaway

Make your financial trail easy to explain: today, create a simple folder for major deposits, transfers, invoices, gifts, and asset sales, including the source, date, and supporting document. Do not split cash transactions to avoid reporting thresholds—this can itself be illegal “structuring.” Clean recordkeeping protects legitimate activity, reduces friction with banks, and makes it easier to answer questions if a transaction is ever flagged.

Episode Overview

This episode explains how money laundering converts criminal proceeds into apparently legitimate funds, from cash-heavy businesses to real estate, tradeable collectibles, shell companies, and cryptocurrency. Former FBI agent Carrie Myers and fraud expert Patrick McKenzie describe the placement, layering, and integration process, as well as the reporting systems banks use to help investigators follow suspicious financial networks.

Key Insights

Money laundering is about obscuring origin, not just handling cash

Money laundering moves proceeds of crime into forms that appear to have legitimate origins. As commerce becomes less cash-based, laundering increasingly begins with fraudulent bank transfers and becomes harder to trace through layers of financial activity.

The three stages make a financial trail harder to follow

Placement puts criminal funds into the regulated financial system; layering moves them through complicated transactions; integration turns them into apparently clean assets or income. Each additional layer is intended to make the original source more difficult for banks and law enforcement to identify.

Ordinary transactions can become suspicious through intent

Businesses, real estate, collectibles, wire transfers, and corporations all have legitimate uses. What separates a lawful transaction from laundering is whether it is ultimately being used to conceal criminal proceeds.

Paperwork crimes can expose larger criminal enterprises

Anti-money-laundering rules give investigators a trail of bank reports that can support cases where the underlying crime is otherwise difficult to prove. Authorities can use those records to map connections among people, companies, accounts, and transfers.

More surveillance is not automatically better

McKenzie argues that driving money laundering to zero would impose excessive costs on legitimate commerce and personal privacy. The policy challenge is balancing enforcement against false positives, friction, and broad financial surveillance.

Frameworks or Models

Placement, Layering, and Integration

1. Placement: move criminal proceeds, often physical cash, into the regulated financial system. 2. Layering: move the funds through complex transactions, entities, accounts, or assets to obscure their origin. 3. Integration: use the funds to acquire real-world assets or income that appear to have a clean, legitimate provenance.

Notable Quotes

"we start with money typically physical cash that is connected directly to a crime and we need to move that into the regulated financial industry in some fashion"

— Patrick McKenzie

"anti-money laundering regulations create a paperwork crime that's incident to the real crime that is much easier to interdict than the real crime is and investigators use that fact to interdict the real crime"

— Patrick McKenzie

"the optimal amount of fraud is not zero and that's true of most things that you can measure that are bad implementing A system that would drive the amount of moneya laundering to zero would interdict so much legitimate Commerce it would cause so much privacy intrusion of basically innocent individuals that we as a society would not possibly countenance that"

— Patrick McKenzie

Action Items

  • 1
    Organize your source-of-funds records

    Create a digital folder for large or unusual transactions. Save invoices, contracts, sale receipts, gift letters, and notes explaining where funds came from and why they moved.

  • 2
    Use transparent banking practices

    When making a legitimate large cash deposit or transfer, provide accurate information to your bank if asked. Never break transactions into smaller pieces to evade reporting requirements.

  • 3
    Review your business payment trail

    If you run a business, reconcile incoming payments to real customers, invoices, and services delivered. Keep ownership, bookkeeping, and vendor records current and internally consistent.

  • 4
    Separate privacy concerns from secrecy

    Consider what financial data you share and with whom, while recognizing that legitimate privacy practices differ from concealing the origin of funds. Use clear documentation rather than needless complexity.

Full Transcript

Transcript of 60. Money Laundering | The Economics of Everyday Things from Freakonomics Radio. Auto-generated from episode audio; may contain minor errors.

look hey this is a squeaky clean highly profitable at least potentially local institution this is a scene from season 3 of Breaking Bad Saul Goodman a crooked lawyer is meeting up with his drug dealer client Jesse Pinkman and he's trying to explain why a criminal should own a nail salon I take your dirty money and I slip it into the salon's nice Clean Cash Flow the revenues from the salon go to the owner that's you your filthy drug money has been transformed into nice clean taxable income brought to you by a Savvy investment in a thriving business so you want me to buy this place so I can pay taxes this is a classic form of money laundering and schemes like this aren't just Hollywood fiction the United Nations office of drugs and crime estimates that laundered money makes up 2 to 5% of the global GDP that's trillions of US dollar every year but as we've moved toward a cashless economy today's criminals are ditching the nail salons and finding new ways to hide their money I really wish money laundering was as easy as it appears to be on Breaking Bad it's really much more complicated than that for the free economics Radio Network this is the economics of everyday things I'm Zachary Crockett today moneya laundering in the simplest terms moneya laundering is the act of moving money to obscure the proceeds of a crime you take the dirty money earned through criminal activity and turn it into clean money that has a seemingly legitimate origin like anything to do with criminal activity it can be tough to find people who can talk about the details almost all the experts in money laundering are located in one of two places they are either currently employed by the government doing moneya laundering investigations or they're in prison that's Carrie Meers he's an associate professor at the University of South Florida and he's one of the few exceptions to that rule I teach a class called forensic accounting for the Master's students who are working on their accounting degree and forensic accounting is just a big fancy way of saying Financial investigation white collar crime fraud and moneya laundering before he taught moneya laundering Myers was fighting it he spent 25 years as a special agent with the FBI I work drug cases I worked white collar crime cases frog cases domestic terrorism cases International terrorism cases I worked armored car robberies bank robberies kidnappings in the the process of all that I worked a number of moneya laundering investigations every time a crime occurs if that crime has produced criminal proceeds there's a 95% chance you also have a moneya laundering charge on top of the underlying crime now let's say you're a criminal who sells drugs for physical cash you've got a suitcase under your bed with $100,000 in it you you can probably go undetected when buying smaller things with it locally like gas groceries or clothes but if you want to make a large purchase say a house or your kids's private school tuition you generally can't hand over a suitcase full of crumpled bills you need to get that money into a bank account that's part of the legitimate Financial system the problem is banks are heavily regulated and have compliance departments that screen for suspicious deposits so you have to make your money look legit almost every money laundering technique is a thing that people do in the legitimate economy for legitimate reasons and the only thing that distinguishes moneya laundering from those legitimate uses is it has an ultimately illegitimate purpose in the eyes of side that's Patrick McKenzie he's a fraud prevention expert who has worked in the payment processing industry he says moneya laundering has three basic stages starting with placement in placement we start with money typically physical cash that is connected directly to a crime and we need to move that into the regulated financial industry in some fashion then the money has to be layered in layering we move the money around in Fashions which are complicated and designed to make financial institutions and law enforcement ignorant as to the ultimate source of the money and the final stage is integration we take the money from the last place we have layered it to and use it to buy something of value in the real world such that it seems like your Providence of that thing is completely clean this process can play out in all kinds of ways one is to partner with a basically legitimate business with flexible morals a classic technique of moneya launderers is to approach businesses that are somewhere on that spectrum of gray and say I have a bag of money and you will ask relatively few questions about it can I give you this bag of money in return for one you saying it is your bag of money and two me giving you some cut ofit you could also take the breaking bat approach and buy your own business to use as a front again here's Carrie Meyers 30 years ago if I wanted to be a moneya launderer I'd buy me a bar and grill that sold beer and hamburgers because it's basically mostly a cash business or you know I get me a taxi cab company or a vending machine company which basically is dealing all in cash if you go this route the process is pretty straightforward you run the bar and grill as a normal business while running your drug Empire on the side every week you bake some of that drug money into your books and when you deposit your cash at the bank you explain that it's revenue from burgers and cheap beer but today Mackenzie says the cash business strategy is losing steam we're a much less cash based society in 2024 than we were in 2004 or 1984 or 1964 and so money launderers are less likely to start out with a bag of money that has been exchanged piece meal for drugs they are more likely to start out with a bank transfer from a legitimate person that was received for fraudulent reasons for modern-day money launders the art is in the layering and integration process some use their elicit funds to buy rental properties which generate legitimate income real estate is heavily used by money launderers not because there is something intrinsically hinky about real estate but simply because there is a lot of money flowing around the real estate sector attached to systems which are not optimally designed to catch money laundering and so a classic pattern is to transfer money to a lawyer who is working in a jurisdiction like London New York as an overseas client and to direct your lawyer to FF the purchase of property on your behalf and then at the end of the day the client ends up with an LLC that owns a building where that building has real tenants who are paying real thoroughly clean money to their landlord for rent another strategy is something called trade-based money laundering criminals will disguise their illicit proceeds through the trade of a physical good often across International borders the thing that was always used in the James Bond films back in the day was like a bar of gold or diamonds but these are a bit difficult to transport for a variety of reasons one is that they certainly look like you're trying to do something you saw in a James Bond film criminals have gotten craftier with the types of goods they use to launder money a thing that doesn't look that hinky to customs officers is a black lotus from the magic of the Gathering card game maybe an alpha Black Lotus maybe a pristine Alpha Black Lotus Magic the Gathering is a popular card game and the Alpha version of the Black Lotus is the rarest and most valuable card a card in good condition can sell for hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars by weight they are more valuable than diamonds and so you buy your Alpha Black lotuses using tainted currency in China ship them to the United States and go to a broker in San Francisco or Seattle or any other place that rich Geeks congregate and say I collected cards when I was in Middle School and now I want to turn them into money and they will say absolutely do you want cryptocurrency do you want a bank transfer let's go and when your bank gets the transfer well that is a totally legal item and a legitimate use of the financial system or if I swap my magic cards for Bitcoin and then I sent Bitcoin to coinbase and then moved it out to another money in a shell Corporation yada yada yada then the game of follow the money becomes exponentially harder for the good guys shell corporations are companies that exist only on paper with no active business or significant assets they're generally not illegal and some have a legitimate purpose but they're often used by moneya launderers to throw the authorities off their Trail here's how Carrie Meers would do it I would open up a shell Corporation in Wyoming then I would open up a shell Corporation in Panama the sole asset would be 100% of the Wyoming Corporation stock I would then open up a Luxembourg Corporation and the stock would be 100% of Panama Corporation I would then open up a cypriot corporation and 100% of the stock would be the Luxembourg Corporation and then I would have the corporation at the very end do the transaction you with me so Along Comes the investigator and I'm trying to figure out who actually did this transaction well I have to investigate in Europe and Panama trying to gather all of this information to find out who is at the end of this rainbow all around the world so how exactly do people like car Meers get to the end of that rainbow that's coming up the modern techniques of moneya laundering trace the roots to the prohibition era of the 1920s and 30s Bootleggers were making huge sums of cash selling alcohol in the black market and they started looking for ways to get it into the banking system one of the pioneers of this financial trickery was the gangster Al Capone whose use of laundromats to wash funds might be the origin of the term money laundering the feds didn't have enough evidence to convict Capone for the illegal sale of alcohol or the violence that he used to protect his franchise traditionally some crimes particularly white collar crimes are just murderously difficult to prosecute again that's Patrick McKenzie the thing that we notoriously here in Chicago got alapon for wasn't for all the actual crime crime it was for the tax evasion the paperwork crimes that were in into the real crime laws aimed at moneya laundering weren't passed until decades later when drug crimes were becoming a serious issue in 1970 the bank secrecy act required financial institutions to file reports of large cash transactions and in 1986 the moneya laundering Control Act officially made moneya laundering a federal crime in the years since then a number of other acts have tightened Bank reporting policies and given federal and state authorities more power to take down criminal Enterprises on financial grounds anti-money laundering regulations create a paperwork crime that's incident to the real crime that is much easier to interdict than the real crime is and investigators use that fact to interdict the real crime Carrie Myers the X FBI agent says these laws allowed him and his colleagues to cut off the head of the snake think of a drug dealer he buys drugs he sells them he takes the cash he buys more drugs we traditionally always criminalized the first act the sale of the drugs what money laundering did is we now criminalize what you do with the proceeds from it which is usually buy more drugs and keep the Enterprise going not only can we put them in jail but we can wipe out all their assets and we kill the Enterprise by depriving it of its money now how exactly does someone like Myers catch a money launder well the initial signs often aren't hard to spot let's say I live in a neighborhood I know how much money it takes for me to live in this neighborhood what if I have a neighbor who has no job lives in same house I have has the same bills I have they're driving a brand new car their kids are all in the best private schools and they're both unemployed what does that tell me that they are living off money that's not earned income now can that be legal yes maybe they hit the lottery maybe they had a grandmother who died and left them a million dollars but then again maybe they're living off the proceeds of criminal activity once the feds have a suspicion they do a little digging and that starts with a bunch of boring paperwork filed by banks by law major financial institutions are required to have compliance departments that screen their customers and file reports on certain types of activity any transaction that involves $10,000 or more of physical cash for instance automatically gets a currency transaction report or CTR money launders are now aware of this $10,000 threshold and they often try to avoid getting ctrs filed by breaking up their deposits into smaller amounts but that's illegal too if you do a withdrawal for $88,000 and one for $2,000 you've just committed a crime and that crime is called structuring structuring is simply any instructions that you give to a financial institution designed to evade the filing of a currency transaction report the bank will also sometimes file a memo called a suspicious activity report or S on the Left End of the spectrum assar could be as useless and socially counterproductive as a man named Muhammad stepped into my bank today and tried to pay money for his cousin's tuition on the right end of the spectrum assar could be a team of experts have successfully tracked a human trafficking ring that has been operating in several European countries and we have provided enough information for various National governments to successfully interdict that all of these reports are filed into a central database controlled by the financial crimes enforcement Network or finsen it's part of the US Department of the treasury finsen receives millions of these reports every year and hardly any of them are actually read and that's kind of the point the reports are there to help aid authorities in building a case once they already have a suspect on their radar what law enforcement will typically do is they develop a suspicion that a particular person is involved in crime in some fashion a person a business and address some identifier and then they run a search on that identifier through the SARS database and then start to build out a network graph and so if you have a suspicion that John Smith might be engaged in crime it suddenly becomes very useful to to have a paper trail that says well John Smith owns Wayne Enterprises and Wayne Enterprises banks at City Bank and it turns out that Wayne Enterprises gets repeated wire transfers in $10 million or more from the following three accounts and it turns out that those accounts one of them is owned by someone who went to prison last year for drug laundering and this investigation kind of snowballs from something that was never investigable by itself on the basis of the sours here's Carrie Meers graciously using me as an example so let's say I'm doing an investigation on Zack Crockett and I think think hey Zach Crockett might be involved with some suspicious transactions I as an FBI agent can contact finen and say Fen go through all your documentation and send me every currency transaction report every suspicious activity report that any financial institution has ever filed on Zachary Crockett here's his name here's his d of birth here's the social security number finsen will go in search their database and send me all those reports I'm just over here washing all these podcast funds well let me assure your listeners that was a hypothetical I'm sure you are doing nothing illegal at all now if Myers determined that I was doing something illegal say using Magic the Gathering cards to wash my ilicit podcast proceeds I'd be pretty screwed in the US a federal money laundering sentence can be up to 20 years in prison and include thousands of dollars in fines and the bank that took me on as a customer they could be in hot water too in 2010 wacovia bank now a part of Wells Fargo was issued criminal charges for failing to have proper money laundering controls in place its LAX policies had made it a safe haven for Mexican drug cartels to launder money the bank had to Forfeit $110 million and pay a $50 million fine to the US Treasury a few years later HSBC headquartered in London ran into similar compliance issues it was forced to pay nearly 2 billion dollars in fines and civil penalties there were some Bank branches in Mexico where the teller window was physically enlarged so that drug smugglers could put more cash through it in the full knowledge that was what was happening it's unclear whether all of these moneya laundering laws procedures and penalties have actually led to a reduction in moneya laundering crimes but mckeny says they've opened the door for a broader debate about the role of banks I think there is definitely a societal question as to whether financial institutions should be deputized to work as law enforcement our elected representatives have definitively made the choice that financial institutions should be deputized in this fashion because they have the knowhow they have the dat they have the budgets privacy Advocates say if it would be illegal for a policeman to look through records on a transaction by transaction basis why is it okay when you have the police ask the bank to do it on their behalf those on the enforcement side say that Banks and their reports are a necessary investigative tool and that without their cooperation we'd have a harder time catching drug dealers human traffickers and other big- time bad guys but McKenzie thinks that a little money laundering isn't the worst thing in the world the optimal amount of fraud is not zero and that's true of most things that you can measure that are bad implementing A system that would drive the amount of moneya laundering to zero would interdict so much legitimate Commerce it would cause so much privacy intrusion of basically innocent individuals that we as a society would not possibly countenance that Carrie Myers is so sure is it perfect no are we where we want to be no but we are moving in the right direction for the economics of everyday things I'm Zachary Crockett this episode was produced by me and Sarah Lily and mixed by Jeremy Johnston we had help from Daniel Mor rapon there's nothing particularly suspicious about laundromats they're actually kind of male adapted to the kind of laundering you need to do the Freakonomics radio network the Hidden Side of Everything Stitcher