2025 Milly Awards LIVE ft. Steph Smith

day, which is a great choice. Sam, day, which is a great choice. Sam, what's up? Can I what's up? Can I what's up? Can I >> tell [laughter] you, let me tell you a >> tell [laughter] you, let me tell you a >> tell [laughter] you, let me tell you a story about this sweater. So, you better story about this sweater. So, you better story about this sweater. So, you better have a story. Very strange. This is from have a story. Very strange. This is from have a story. Very strange. This is from 2002, 2002, 2002, I think. Can you see it here? It says I think. Can you see it here? It says I think. Can you see it here? It says Ralph Lauren 2002. This is a memorial Ralph Lauren 2002. This is a memorial Ralph Lauren 2002. This is a memorial sweater for 911, which begs the sweater for 911, which begs the sweater for 911, which begs the question, question, question, is a sweater really the right form to is a sweater really the right form to is a sweater really the right form to memorialize a terrorist [laughter] memorialize a terrorist [laughter] memorialize a terrorist [laughter] attack? attack? attack? Yeah, I guess like if we could if Ralph Yeah, I guess like if we could if Ralph Yeah, I guess like if we could if Ralph Lori could pay tribute on a sweater, Lori could pay tribute on a sweater, Lori could pay tribute on a sweater, then I guess like we can [laughter] pay then I guess like we can [laughter] pay then I guess like we can [laughter] pay tribute on a variety of things. tribute on a variety of things. tribute on a variety of things. >> You got you got to love that marketing >> You got you got to love that marketing >> You got you got to love that marketing meeting where they're like this is a meeting where they're like this is a meeting where they're like this is a tragedy in America and there are no tragedy in America and there are no tragedy in America and there are no words. [laughter] words. [laughter] words. [laughter] >> There are sweaters sweater. >> There are sweaters sweater. >> There are sweaters sweater. >> But in America, we celebrate capitalism. >> But in America, we celebrate capitalism. >> But in America, we celebrate capitalism. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> So that's what I'm wearing. I'm wearing >> So that's what I'm wearing. I'm wearing >> So that's what I'm wearing. I'm wearing my 911 um memorial sweater for my 911 um memorial sweater for my 911 um memorial sweater for Christmas. Christmas. Christmas. >> What a choice, Ethan in the chat. Never >> What a choice, Ethan in the chat. Never >> What a choice, Ethan in the chat. Never forget, Sam. Never forget. That's forget, Sam. Never forget. That's forget, Sam. Never forget. That's [laughter] right. [laughter] right. [laughter] right. >> You won't because I will be reminding >> You won't because I will be reminding >> You won't because I will be reminding you, but it'll be on my my sweater. you, but it'll be on my my sweater. you, but it'll be on my my sweater. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> That's amazing. All right, so >> That's amazing. All right, so >> That's amazing. All right, so >> Steph, welcome back. You've been on, >> Steph, welcome back. You've been on, >> Steph, welcome back. You've been on, >> I don't know, a dozen times or so. >> I don't know, a dozen times or so. >> I don't know, a dozen times or so. >> You're a great friend of the pod. We >> You're a great friend of the pod. We >> You're a great friend of the pod. We wanted to to do this with you. So, we wanted to to do this with you. So, we wanted to to do this with you. So, we have categories, a bunch of categories have categories, a bunch of categories have categories, a bunch of categories for the year, and we're going to go for the year, and we're going to go for the year, and we're going to go rapid fire through them. Uh, and and rapid fire through them. Uh, and and rapid fire through them. Uh, and and we'll do it do it that way. Okay. So, we'll do it do it that way. Okay. So, we'll do it do it that way. Okay. So, Steph, you've been given the categories, Steph, you've been given the categories, Steph, you've been given the categories, but we don't know what you said. Sam, I but we don't know what you said. Sam, I but we don't know what you said. Sam, I don't know what you said. This will be a don't know what you said. This will be a don't know what you said. This will be a surprise for all of us. Okay. So, surprise for all of us. Okay. So, surprise for all of us. Okay. So, category number one, unless Sam, did you category number one, unless Sam, did you category number one, unless Sam, did you have any other preamble? Did I I feel have any other preamble? Did I I feel have any other preamble? Did I I feel like I'm rushing. like I'm rushing. like I'm rushing. >> You're You're rushing. Um, >> You're You're rushing. Um, >> You're You're rushing. Um, >> yeah, I put my hand on the thigh, but >> yeah, I put my hand on the thigh, but >> yeah, I put my hand on the thigh, but like forgot to introduce myself. like forgot to introduce myself. like forgot to introduce myself. >> Yeah, we've done this. [laughter] We >> Yeah, we've done this. [laughter] We >> Yeah, we've done this. [laughter] We We've done this. We've done this a few We've done this. We've done this a few We've done this. We've done this a few years now. I wish we actually would have years now. I wish we actually would have years now. I wish we actually would have recaptured some of the numbers, but over recaptured some of the numbers, but over recaptured some of the numbers, but over the last 12 months, Sean, I don't know the last 12 months, Sean, I don't know the last 12 months, Sean, I don't know if you've known this, but we've had if you've known this, but we've had if you've known this, but we've had something like 90 million uh views something like 90 million uh views something like 90 million uh views across everything, downloads and views. across everything, downloads and views. across everything, downloads and views. Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. >> So, pretty wild. That always >> So, pretty wild. That always >> So, pretty wild. That always >> We crossed I believe I think we're close >> We crossed I believe I think we're close >> We crossed I believe I think we're close to two million subscribers across to two million subscribers across to two million subscribers across YouTube, Spotify, and and and Apple or YouTube, Spotify, and and and Apple or YouTube, Spotify, and and and Apple or whatever, which is bananas. I mean, that whatever, which is bananas. I mean, that whatever, which is bananas. I mean, that number 90 million, that's a lot of number 90 million, that's a lot of number 90 million, that's a lot of that's a lot of view time. a lot of that's a lot of view time. a lot of that's a lot of view time. a lot of views. views. views. >> It's a lot. And like there's definitely >> It's a lot. And like there's definitely >> It's a lot. And like there's definitely like one or two shorts that got like 10 like one or two shorts that got like 10 like one or two shorts that got like 10 million. I think last year I think we million. I think last year I think we million. I think last year I think we had last year there was one where we had last year there was one where we had last year there was one where we told the story maybe you told the story told the story maybe you told the story told the story maybe you told the story of Elon Musk. I think it got 30 million. of Elon Musk. I think it got 30 million. of Elon Musk. I think it got 30 million. So like some go really heavy but it's So like some go really heavy but it's So like some go really heavy but it's been been pretty crazy. So we've reached been been pretty crazy. So we've reached been been pretty crazy. So we've reached tens of millions of people in the last tens of millions of people in the last tens of millions of people in the last 12 months which is astounding. And now 12 months which is astounding. And now 12 months which is astounding. And now we do this at the end of every year and we do this at the end of every year and we do this at the end of every year and it's one of my favorite things. Uh we do it's one of my favorite things. Uh we do it's one of my favorite things. Uh we do mostly the same categories each year, mostly the same categories each year, mostly the same categories each year, but it's always like so fun to go but it's always like so fun to go but it's always like so fun to go through your phone and like look at old through your phone and like look at old through your phone and like look at old photos and see what's going on from your photos and see what's going on from your photos and see what's going on from your trailer in 12 months. So I'm excited to trailer in 12 months. So I'm excited to trailer in 12 months. So I'm excited to do this. So uh category number one, do this. So uh category number one, do this. So uh category number one, >> the best investment that you made this >> the best investment that you made this >> the best investment that you made this year. Is that right? year. Is that right? year. Is that right? >> Best investment you made this year. So >> Best investment you made this year. So >> Best investment you made this year. So uh Sam, you want to kick this off? uh Sam, you want to kick this off? uh Sam, you want to kick this off? >> Yeah. So my if this just says >> Yeah. So my if this just says >> Yeah. So my if this just says investment, it doesn't say best money investment, it doesn't say best money investment, it doesn't say best money investment. My best money investment is investment. My best money investment is investment. My best money investment is always boring because I just do S&P 500 always boring because I just do S&P 500 always boring because I just do S&P 500 and bonds. But my best real investment and bonds. But my best real investment and bonds. But my best real investment uh that I made was I moved to New York uh that I made was I moved to New York uh that I made was I moved to New York City. And let me tell you the story. So City. And let me tell you the story. So City. And let me tell you the story. So I was living in the suburbs. I decided I was living in the suburbs. I decided I was living in the suburbs. I decided to move to New York City. I moved here to move to New York City. I moved here to move to New York City. I moved here and I found an apartment that I loved. and I found an apartment that I loved. and I found an apartment that I loved. It was furnished amazingly. And I go to It was furnished amazingly. And I go to It was furnished amazingly. And I go to the previous tenants. I go, I want to the previous tenants. I go, I want to the previous tenants. I go, I want to move into this apartment. Um do you guys move into this apartment. Um do you guys move into this apartment. Um do you guys just want to sell me all your furniture? just want to sell me all your furniture? just want to sell me all your furniture? And so I had them itemize all of their And so I had them itemize all of their And so I had them itemize all of their furniture and it added up to be very furniture and it added up to be very furniture and it added up to be very expensive, 80,000 or $90,000 worth of expensive, 80,000 or $90,000 worth of expensive, 80,000 or $90,000 worth of stuff. I said, I'll give you 10%. They stuff. I said, I'll give you 10%. They stuff. I said, I'll give you 10%. They took it. So, I ended up moving to the took it. So, I ended up moving to the took it. So, I ended up moving to the city in a furnished apartment where I city in a furnished apartment where I city in a furnished apartment where I get to see my in-laws four days a week. get to see my in-laws four days a week. get to see my in-laws four days a week. I go to my office five days a week and I go to my office five days a week and I go to my office five days a week and it's made me so happy. So, that's been it's made me so happy. So, that's been it's made me so happy. So, that's been my best investment was moving to a my best investment was moving to a my best investment was moving to a furnished place. I sold all my cars. I furnished place. I sold all my cars. I furnished place. I sold all my cars. I don't own basically anything. And I love don't own basically anything. And I love don't own basically anything. And I love it. it. it. >> Owning less stuff, moving to the city, >> Owning less stuff, moving to the city, >> Owning less stuff, moving to the city, being near your family, working in being near your family, working in being near your family, working in person in an office. That's actually a person in an office. That's actually a person in an office. That's actually a pretty big change overall. pretty big change overall. pretty big change overall. >> Huge change. And it's definitely made me >> Huge change. And it's definitely made me >> Huge change. And it's definitely made me a lot a lot a lot >> questionable if it's an investment, but >> questionable if it's an investment, but >> questionable if it's an investment, but it is a huge change. I I will give you it is a huge change. I I will give you it is a huge change. I I will give you that. It's an emotional investment. I'm that. It's an emotional investment. I'm that. It's an emotional investment. I'm emotionally invested in this city. Now, emotionally invested in this city. Now, emotionally invested in this city. Now, >> see, this is why I don't do index funds >> see, this is why I don't do index funds >> see, this is why I don't do index funds and bonds because imagine if I'm one day and bonds because imagine if I'm one day and bonds because imagine if I'm one day on a podcast and they ask me about best on a podcast and they ask me about best on a podcast and they ask me about best investment of the year. And I can't I investment of the year. And I can't I investment of the year. And I can't I have to start talking about seeing my have to start talking about seeing my have to start talking about seeing my mother-in-law. Like, that's just that's mother-in-law. Like, that's just that's mother-in-law. Like, that's just that's why I don't that's why I pick stocks, why I don't that's why I pick stocks, why I don't that's why I pick stocks, baby. That's why I do it. baby. That's why I do it. baby. That's why I do it. >> Yeah. Like, what am I going to say? My >> Yeah. Like, what am I going to say? My >> Yeah. Like, what am I going to say? My net worth went up by 30% this year for net worth went up by 30% this year for net worth went up by 30% this year for boring stuff. Like, [laughter] boring stuff. Like, [laughter] boring stuff. Like, [laughter] >> Steph, what do you got? Best best >> Steph, what do you got? Best best >> Steph, what do you got? Best best investment of the year. Tell me it's an investment of the year. Tell me it's an investment of the year. Tell me it's an actual investment and not like a best actual investment and not like a best actual investment and not like a best investment is myself. I'm about to investment is myself. I'm about to investment is myself. I'm about to disappoint you, man. disappoint you, man. disappoint you, man. >> Oh my god, you're both. >> Oh my god, you're both. >> Oh my god, you're both. >> The only time I check the S&P is to >> The only time I check the S&P is to >> The only time I check the S&P is to gauge my husband's mood for the day. So, gauge my husband's mood for the day. So, gauge my husband's mood for the day. So, he invests all our money. And so, I got he invests all our money. And so, I got he invests all our money. And so, I got to I got to come up with something else. to I got to come up with something else. to I got to come up with something else. My investment is also not really an My investment is also not really an My investment is also not really an investment, but um it's Accutane. You investment, but um it's Accutane. You investment, but um it's Accutane. You guys know what Accutane is? guys know what Accutane is? guys know what Accutane is? >> What? Yes. >> What? Yes. >> What? Yes. >> Isn't [laughter] that like acne >> Isn't [laughter] that like acne >> Isn't [laughter] that like acne medicine? What is that? medicine? What is that? medicine? What is that? >> Yes. Yes. Yes. Um so, backstory real >> Yes. Yes. Yes. Um so, backstory real >> Yes. Yes. Yes. Um so, backstory real quick. I've had acne my whole life. like quick. I've had acne my whole life. like quick. I've had acne my whole life. like truly since I was 13. I'm 32 now. So, truly since I was 13. I'm 32 now. So, truly since I was 13. I'm 32 now. So, what is that? That's nearly two decades what is that? That's nearly two decades what is that? That's nearly two decades of just unnecessary pain. Time applied. of just unnecessary pain. Time applied. of just unnecessary pain. Time applied. Just the worst. Anyone who's had acne Just the worst. Anyone who's had acne Just the worst. Anyone who's had acne knows it sucks. So, I spent forever just knows it sucks. So, I spent forever just knows it sucks. So, I spent forever just being like, "It'll go away. I'm getting being like, "It'll go away. I'm getting being like, "It'll go away. I'm getting older." And then and then I was older." And then and then I was older." And then and then I was influenced by the the king influencer, influenced by the the king influencer, influenced by the the king influencer, Mr. Beast. He was on I can't even Mr. Beast. He was on I can't even Mr. Beast. He was on I can't even remember what podcast, but he just remember what podcast, but he just remember what podcast, but he just slipped it in one day. He was like, slipped it in one day. He was like, slipped it in one day. He was like, "Yeah, I took Accutane a few years ago. "Yeah, I took Accutane a few years ago. "Yeah, I took Accutane a few years ago. Didn't really tell anyone, but like one Didn't really tell anyone, but like one Didn't really tell anyone, but like one day my acne just disappeared overnight. day my acne just disappeared overnight. day my acne just disappeared overnight. I don't know why more people don't talk I don't know why more people don't talk I don't know why more people don't talk about this." And I was like, "First of about this." And I was like, "First of about this." And I was like, "First of all, yes, why don't more people talk all, yes, why don't more people talk all, yes, why don't more people talk about this? And second of all, I'm going about this? And second of all, I'm going about this? And second of all, I'm going to call up my dermatologist and ask why to call up my dermatologist and ask why to call up my dermatologist and ask why [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] I'm not on Accutane." And I took it for I'm not on Accutane." And I took it for I'm not on Accutane." And I took it for 6 months this year and I'm clear. And I 6 months this year and I'm clear. And I 6 months this year and I'm clear. And I think it's like, you know, obviously think it's like, you know, obviously think it's like, you know, obviously your mileage may vary. Go talk to a your mileage may vary. Go talk to a your mileage may vary. Go talk to a doctor. But I'm just like, doctor. But I'm just like, doctor. But I'm just like, >> this is the best thing ever. I don't >> this is the best thing ever. I don't >> this is the best thing ever. I don't know why. People don't take this. know why. People don't take this. know why. People don't take this. >> I'm zooming in a little closer to the >> I'm zooming in a little closer to the >> I'm zooming in a little closer to the camera. camera. camera. >> Well, [laughter] >> Well, [laughter] >> Well, [laughter] people the internet can do the people the internet can do the people the internet can do the comparison. I mean, I always wear comparison. I mean, I always wear comparison. I mean, I always wear [snorts] makeup. So, take right now. Go [snorts] makeup. So, take right now. Go [snorts] makeup. So, take right now. Go back to like V1 of me on my first back to like V1 of me on my first back to like V1 of me on my first million. It's going to look different. million. It's going to look different. million. It's going to look different. >> You should post a tweet of a true before >> You should post a tweet of a true before >> You should post a tweet of a true before and after and after and after >> a success story. >> a success story. >> a success story. >> That's the thing. People are so >> That's the thing. People are so >> That's the thing. People are so embarrassed to like, you know, if I were embarrassed to like, you know, if I were embarrassed to like, you know, if I were to actually take I'm sure I've got some to actually take I'm sure I've got some to actually take I'm sure I've got some images of me no makeup during those images of me no makeup during those images of me no makeup during those periods. It's It's embarrassing. So, periods. It's It's embarrassing. So, periods. It's It's embarrassing. So, >> we have another category called biggest >> we have another category called biggest >> we have another category called biggest personal L you took. And may maybe personal L you took. And may maybe personal L you took. And may maybe [laughter] there will be some dig during [laughter] there will be some dig during [laughter] there will be some dig during that time. that time. that time. >> Um, okay. So, you also didn't do the >> Um, okay. So, you also didn't do the >> Um, okay. So, you also didn't do the category. We're off to a a rough start category. We're off to a a rough start category. We're off to a a rough start here. here. here. >> Sean better. >> Sean better. >> Sean better. >> I have a real >> I have a real >> I have a real >> The people know I am here for you. I am >> The people know I am here for you. I am >> The people know I am here for you. I am here to actually provide the information here to actually provide the information here to actually provide the information that you guys pay nothing to have. Um, that you guys pay nothing to have. Um, that you guys pay nothing to have. Um, all right. So, my investment. So, this all right. So, my investment. So, this all right. So, my investment. So, this is actually kind of funny. a year ago to is actually kind of funny. a year ago to is actually kind of funny. a year ago to the to the day. So this December 17th the to the day. So this December 17th the to the day. So this December 17th today I tweeted out on December 16th today I tweeted out on December 16th today I tweeted out on December 16th this tweet. So I said I'm going this tweet. So I said I'm going this tweet. So I said I'm going Christmas shopping this morning. I'm Christmas shopping this morning. I'm Christmas shopping this morning. I'm Xmith shopping assets this morning and I Xmith shopping assets this morning and I Xmith shopping assets this morning and I tweeted out. So basically what I did was tweeted out. So basically what I did was tweeted out. So basically what I did was that day I took that day I took that day I took um something like $ 1.5 million and I um something like $ 1.5 million and I um something like $ 1.5 million and I spread it across these stocks and I spread it across these stocks and I spread it across these stocks and I tweeted it out that day. I said I'm tweeted it out that day. I said I'm tweeted it out that day. I said I'm putting 20% into Shopify, 20% into putting 20% into Shopify, 20% into putting 20% into Shopify, 20% into Tesla, 20% into Eli Liy, 20% into Tesla, 20% into Eli Liy, 20% into Tesla, 20% into Eli Liy, 20% into Bitcoin, 20% into Coinbase. The one I Bitcoin, 20% into Coinbase. The one I Bitcoin, 20% into Coinbase. The one I forgot to put on here is I also put 20% forgot to put on here is I also put 20% forgot to put on here is I also put 20% Google and um or sorry, not 20% Google. Google and um or sorry, not 20% Google. Google and um or sorry, not 20% Google. I put basically I put 250K into each I put basically I put 250K into each I put basically I put 250K into each one. So I think the total was 1.25 one. So I think the total was 1.25 one. So I think the total was 1.25 um million invested on the same day on um million invested on the same day on um million invested on the same day on December 16. No dollar cost averaging, December 16. No dollar cost averaging, December 16. No dollar cost averaging, no research, no nothing. I was just no research, no nothing. I was just no research, no nothing. I was just feeling like these are things I would feeling like these are things I would feeling like these are things I would like to gift myself for long-term like to gift myself for long-term like to gift myself for long-term ownership. And um if I look So the ownership. And um if I look So the ownership. And um if I look So the results of these now are what? So I just results of these now are what? So I just results of these now are what? So I just looked this morning because I haven't looked this morning because I haven't looked this morning because I haven't really been checking too aggressively. really been checking too aggressively. really been checking too aggressively. So I had a couple that were flat. So So I had a couple that were flat. So So I had a couple that were flat. So Coinbase and Bitcoin are essentially Coinbase and Bitcoin are essentially Coinbase and Bitcoin are essentially flat. Coinbase is up 1%. Bitcoin's down flat. Coinbase is up 1%. Bitcoin's down flat. Coinbase is up 1%. Bitcoin's down 8% uh in that total year span. But 8% uh in that total year span. But 8% uh in that total year span. But everything else, Shopify is up 53%, everything else, Shopify is up 53%, everything else, Shopify is up 53%, Tesla's up 16 17%. Eli Liyy's up 35%. Tesla's up 16 17%. Eli Liyy's up 35%. Tesla's up 16 17%. Eli Liyy's up 35%. Google's up 50%. And so my public stock Google's up 50%. And so my public stock Google's up 50%. And so my public stock bet that I put out there is my best bet that I put out there is my best bet that I put out there is my best investment of the year because uh you investment of the year because uh you investment of the year because uh you know I think the blended average here is know I think the blended average here is know I think the blended average here is something what is that? Uh let me I something what is that? Uh let me I something what is that? Uh let me I thought I pulled it up somewhere. I thought I pulled it up somewhere. I thought I pulled it up somewhere. I think it's something like 35% for the think it's something like 35% for the think it's something like 35% for the year. Um and so that was a that was a year. Um and so that was a that was a year. Um and so that was a that was a good return on a one-day shopping spree. good return on a one-day shopping spree. good return on a one-day shopping spree. I [laughter] I [laughter] I [laughter] >> you use these words like shopping spree >> you use these words like shopping spree >> you use these words like shopping spree and things like that as if they apply and things like that as if they apply and things like that as if they apply here which is hilarious. here which is hilarious. here which is hilarious. >> I was supposed to be Christmas shopping >> I was supposed to be Christmas shopping >> I was supposed to be Christmas shopping gifts for others and instead I bought gifts for others and instead I bought gifts for others and instead I bought stocks for myself. stocks for myself. stocks for myself. >> I thought you committed to the index >> I thought you committed to the index >> I thought you committed to the index path last year. I I distinctly remember path last year. I I distinctly remember path last year. I I distinctly remember you saying that. you saying that. you saying that. >> If I did these are false promises. I'm I >> If I did these are false promises. I'm I >> If I did these are false promises. I'm I am part of this degenerate lifestyle for am part of this degenerate lifestyle for am part of this degenerate lifestyle for now and for always. now and for always. now and for always. >> So Sean, what do you do? Do you keep >> So Sean, what do you do? Do you keep >> So Sean, what do you do? Do you keep those five or do you pick five new ones? those five or do you pick five new ones? those five or do you pick five new ones? But the one the one part that's not as But the one the one part that's not as But the one the one part that's not as I'm not trading these. These are like I'm not trading these. These are like I'm not trading these. These are like what companies do I what companies or what companies do I what companies or what companies do I what companies or assets do I want to own for like a assets do I want to own for like a assets do I want to own for like a 10-ear period. 10 years is my sort of 10-ear period. 10 years is my sort of 10-ear period. 10 years is my sort of default hold period and that's what I I default hold period and that's what I I default hold period and that's what I I graduated in college in 2010 and it's graduated in college in 2010 and it's graduated in college in 2010 and it's basically what I've been doing since basically what I've been doing since basically what I've been doing since then. So I held I had one thing that I then. So I held I had one thing that I then. So I held I had one thing that I bought for you know 2010 to 2020 and bought for you know 2010 to 2020 and bought for you know 2010 to 2020 and then in 2020 I bought a bunch of stuff then in 2020 I bought a bunch of stuff then in 2020 I bought a bunch of stuff which wasn't so great because that was which wasn't so great because that was which wasn't so great because that was when COVID was happening and it was like when COVID was happening and it was like when COVID was happening and it was like a really crazy time. Um but in general a really crazy time. Um but in general a really crazy time. Um but in general when I buy things I try to hold them for when I buy things I try to hold them for when I buy things I try to hold them for 10 years. That's the goal. Why Eli Lily? 10 years. That's the goal. Why Eli Lily? 10 years. That's the goal. Why Eli Lily? Because they do Ozmpic. Because they do Ozmpic. Because they do Ozmpic. >> Because you told me that they had some >> Because you told me that they had some >> Because you told me that they had some drug that was incredible and you were drug that was incredible and you were drug that was incredible and you were like vetruditi. What is it? You texted like vetruditi. What is it? You texted like vetruditi. What is it? You texted me something and I was like listen I me something and I was like listen I me something and I was like listen I didn't listen when Sam said the ompic didn't listen when Sam said the ompic didn't listen when Sam said the ompic thing. Um but literally it was one it thing. Um but literally it was one it thing. Um but literally it was one it was literally the only that it was just was literally the only that it was just was literally the only that it was just you telling me that this drug is you telling me that this drug is you telling me that this drug is incredible and it puts Ompic to shame incredible and it puts Ompic to shame incredible and it puts Ompic to shame and it wasn't fully out yet or and it wasn't fully out yet or and it wasn't fully out yet or something. I don't know what. I don't something. I don't know what. I don't something. I don't know what. I don't know. You had some early on this. know. You had some early on this. know. You had some early on this. >> Yeah, I had a guy basically. So, I like >> Yeah, I had a guy basically. So, I like >> Yeah, I had a guy basically. So, I like to biohack. So, I test all types of to biohack. So, I test all types of to biohack. So, I test all types of crazy stuff. A lot of times it's like crazy stuff. A lot of times it's like crazy stuff. A lot of times it's like compound stuff, meaning like it's like compound stuff, meaning like it's like compound stuff, meaning like it's like stuff from China. And [laughter] stuff from China. And [laughter] stuff from China. And [laughter] I don't know like what I'm allowed to I don't know like what I'm allowed to I don't know like what I'm allowed to admit to right now. I don't want to like admit to right now. I don't want to like admit to right now. I don't want to like go to jail, but uh yeah, it go to jail, but uh yeah, it go to jail, but uh yeah, it >> your friend does all this. Yeah. >> your friend does all this. Yeah. >> your friend does all this. Yeah. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Also named Sam does what? >> Also named Sam does what? >> Also named Sam does what? >> And it did all of the stuff that Ozepic >> And it did all of the stuff that Ozepic >> And it did all of the stuff that Ozepic does other than make your stomach feel does other than make your stomach feel does other than make your stomach feel sick. Uh and I started taking it and sick. Uh and I started taking it and sick. Uh and I started taking it and it's amazing. It's so good. I mean, I it's amazing. It's so good. I mean, I it's amazing. It's so good. I mean, I don't take this stuff like regularly. don't take this stuff like regularly. don't take this stuff like regularly. And just anytime something new comes And just anytime something new comes And just anytime something new comes out, it's sort of like, oh, what's a DVD out, it's sort of like, oh, what's a DVD out, it's sort of like, oh, what's a DVD player? I got to buy one. Uh, you know, player? I got to buy one. Uh, you know, player? I got to buy one. Uh, you know, that's what I do with drugs. Like you that's what I do with drugs. Like you that's what I do with drugs. Like you learn about new technology and uh it was learn about new technology and uh it was learn about new technology and uh it was amazing. amazing. amazing. >> So you told me this and then since then >> So you told me this and then since then >> So you told me this and then since then the the the >> Did you research it though? >> Did you research it though? >> Did you research it though? >> No. No, dude. You told me it I think >> No. No, dude. You told me it I think >> No. No, dude. You told me it I think that day and I was like, you know what? that day and I was like, you know what? that day and I was like, you know what? I'm putting Lily in here. I'm putting Lily in here. I'm putting Lily in here. >> It's up 34%. >> It's up 34%. >> It's up 34%. >> It's up 34%. [laughter] >> It's up 34%. [laughter] >> It's up 34%. [laughter] Um, I didn't say I researched these. By Um, I didn't say I researched these. By Um, I didn't say I researched these. By the way, I operate on gut and swagger. the way, I operate on gut and swagger. the way, I operate on gut and swagger. Okay. Um, and so the the the diff since Okay. Um, and so the the the diff since Okay. Um, and so the the the diff since then the the CEO of Eli Lily has come on then the the CEO of Eli Lily has come on then the the CEO of Eli Lily has come on and um because Lily has turned into like and um because Lily has turned into like and um because Lily has turned into like a trillion dollar company. It's like the a trillion dollar company. It's like the a trillion dollar company. It's like the first pharmaceutical company to do that. first pharmaceutical company to do that. first pharmaceutical company to do that. And he's explained all the incredible And he's explained all the incredible And he's explained all the incredible things that they do differently than the things that they do differently than the things that they do differently than the others and how they're using AI and others and how they're using AI and others and how they're using AI and I I I feel better about it now. There's I I I feel better about it now. There's I I I feel better about it now. There's more to like, but I can't say that any more to like, but I can't say that any more to like, but I can't say that any of those were the reasons why I did it. of those were the reasons why I did it. of those were the reasons why I did it. Like yeah, they do seem to operate like Like yeah, they do seem to operate like Like yeah, they do seem to operate like more of a tech company now, but uh more of a tech company now, but uh more of a tech company now, but uh >> I don't know. It just seemed like people >> I don't know. It just seemed like people >> I don't know. It just seemed like people were going to want I I just sort of was were going to want I I just sort of was were going to want I I just sort of was like people are going to Ozmpic is like like people are going to Ozmpic is like like people are going to Ozmpic is like the best product ever and um Sam says the best product ever and um Sam says the best product ever and um Sam says they have a better OMIC coming. All they have a better OMIC coming. All they have a better OMIC coming. All right, great. That's enough. I don't right, great. That's enough. I don't right, great. That's enough. I don't need need need >> Sean's investment thesis just says Sam >> Sean's investment thesis just says Sam >> Sean's investment thesis just says Sam tried some drug. tried some drug. tried some drug. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> Sam's other ones and so I thought well >> Sam's other ones and so I thought well >> Sam's other ones and so I thought well for once I I'll do this. for once I I'll do this. for once I I'll do this. >> Like for example like do you remember >> Like for example like do you remember >> Like for example like do you remember when we uh invested in the uh mobility when we uh invested in the uh mobility when we uh invested in the uh mobility trend on Instagram? trend on Instagram? trend on Instagram? No payoff, but yeah. No payoff, but yeah. No payoff, but yeah. >> Yeah, like like there has been a few >> Yeah, like like there has been a few >> Yeah, like like there has been a few things. We invested in Andrew Huberman things. We invested in Andrew Huberman things. We invested in Andrew Huberman early on. We've we've gotten a couple early on. We've we've gotten a couple early on. We've we've gotten a couple investments. Uh right, it just turns out investments. Uh right, it just turns out investments. Uh right, it just turns out this one was financial. Um that's cool. this one was financial. Um that's cool. this one was financial. Um that's cool. Well, congratulations. Those are great. Well, congratulations. Those are great. Well, congratulations. Those are great. What about the biggest L or sorry, the What about the biggest L or sorry, the What about the biggest L or sorry, the worst investment? worst investment? worst investment? >> Chat, give us some uh some feedback here >> Chat, give us some uh some feedback here >> Chat, give us some uh some feedback here on on uh round one. Who's whose answers on on uh round one. Who's whose answers on on uh round one. Who's whose answers did you like? I think I might might take did you like? I think I might might take did you like? I think I might might take this one because I might be the only one this one because I might be the only one this one because I might be the only one who actually qualifies for the answer to who actually qualifies for the answer to who actually qualifies for the answer to this. Um, wait. So, >> oh yeah, I I violated no public math. >> oh yeah, I I violated no public math. I'm sorry about that. Uh, okay. So, does I'm sorry about that. Uh, okay. So, does I'm sorry about that. Uh, okay. So, does that mean that worst investment of the that mean that worst investment of the that mean that worst investment of the year is also going to have no answers year is also going to have no answers year is also going to have no answers for you guys? Are we in trouble here? for you guys? Are we in trouble here? for you guys? Are we in trouble here? >> No, I have one. >> No, I have one. >> No, I have one. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Uh, my boy uh said that I was the best >> Uh, my boy uh said that I was the best >> Uh, my boy uh said that I was the best on here. I got a few good ones. Um, on here. I got a few good ones. Um, on here. I got a few good ones. Um, people voting for me. Um, my worst one people voting for me. Um, my worst one people voting for me. Um, my worst one was uh [laughter] >> what you said. I don't know. Uh, >> what you said. I don't know. Uh, >> this is amazing. >> this is amazing. >> this is amazing. >> I, um, >> I, um, >> I, um, I, uh, I, you know, when I sold my I, uh, I, you know, when I sold my I, uh, I, you know, when I sold my company, I got a bunch of HubSpot stock company, I got a bunch of HubSpot stock company, I got a bunch of HubSpot stock and I held on to a lot of it and then I and I held on to a lot of it and then I and I held on to a lot of it and then I saw how multiples were getting crazy and saw how multiples were getting crazy and saw how multiples were getting crazy and I had to like even out because it was I had to like even out because it was I had to like even out because it was making up too high of a percentage of my making up too high of a percentage of my making up too high of a percentage of my net worth, but I still kept some of it. net worth, but I still kept some of it. net worth, but I still kept some of it. And it's been obliterated this year. It And it's been obliterated this year. It And it's been obliterated this year. It just got totally HubSpot stock got just got totally HubSpot stock got just got totally HubSpot stock got obliterated this year. Did yours, Steph, obliterated this year. Did yours, Steph, obliterated this year. Did yours, Steph, you owned or do you still own yours? Oh, you owned or do you still own yours? Oh, you owned or do you still own yours? Oh, man. man. man. >> I don't know how much. Cal does. She she >> I don't know how much. Cal does. She she >> I don't know how much. Cal does. She she looks like she's about to go put on the looks like she's about to go put on the looks like she's about to go put on the 911 sweater thinking about it right now. 911 sweater thinking about it right now. 911 sweater thinking about it right now. >> HubSpot stock just got totally >> HubSpot stock just got totally >> HubSpot stock just got totally obliterated this year. So I lost uh a obliterated this year. So I lost uh a obliterated this year. So I lost uh a lot there. And for you know Ari's lot there. And for you know Ari's lot there. And for you know Ari's listening basically I think it's this listening basically I think it's this listening basically I think it's this year it's down um it it was at $800 this year it's down um it it was at $800 this year it's down um it it was at $800 this year. Today it's $370 or something like year. Today it's $370 or something like year. Today it's $370 or something like that. So I I I got uh my ass kicked on that. So I I I got uh my ass kicked on that. So I I I got uh my ass kicked on that one. How about you Steph? that one. How about you Steph? that one. How about you Steph? Sean's not going to like my answer, but Sean's not going to like my answer, but Sean's not going to like my answer, but it's it's not financial. I did um it's it's not financial. I did um it's it's not financial. I did um >> It's a vitamin. Is it a vitamin? Like a >> It's a vitamin. Is it a vitamin? Like a >> It's a vitamin. Is it a vitamin? Like a supplement of some kind? [laughter] supplement of some kind? [laughter] supplement of some kind? [laughter] >> Worst investment, a vitamin. Uh no, I uh >> Worst investment, a vitamin. Uh no, I uh >> Worst investment, a vitamin. Uh no, I uh I did get a notice that a bubble tea I did get a notice that a bubble tea I did get a notice that a bubble tea company I invested in a few years ago company I invested in a few years ago company I invested in a few years ago during peak syrup went under during peak syrup went under during peak syrup went under unsurprisingly. unsurprisingly. unsurprisingly. >> Like, oh dude, I've got like 20 of those >> Like, oh dude, I've got like 20 of those >> Like, oh dude, I've got like 20 of those year. What do you think? year. What do you think? year. What do you think? >> Oh, it was lit. It was literally these >> Oh, it was lit. It was literally these >> Oh, it was lit. It was literally these founders who were on one of those like founders who were on one of those like founders who were on one of those like crowdfunding sites who was like just had crowdfunding sites who was like just had crowdfunding sites who was like just had no no real evidence that they would make no no real evidence that they would make no no real evidence that they would make a great bubble tea company, but I was a great bubble tea company, but I was a great bubble tea company, but I was like bubble tea is great and invested in like bubble tea is great and invested in like bubble tea is great and invested in that. But my actual answer for worst that. But my actual answer for worst that. But my actual answer for worst investment that is not financial is just investment that is not financial is just investment that is not financial is just uh networking events. I feel like you uh networking events. I feel like you uh networking events. I feel like you guys already know this, but like it's guys already know this, but like it's guys already know this, but like it's taken me way too long to taken me way too long to taken me way too long to >> name names. Which conferences do you >> name names. Which conferences do you >> name names. Which conferences do you regret this year? Let's let's put regret this year? Let's let's put regret this year? Let's let's put [laughter] them out there. [laughter] them out there. [laughter] them out there. all of them. Uh yeah, I think that's all of them. Uh yeah, I think that's all of them. Uh yeah, I think that's that's my worst investment going to all that's my worst investment going to all that's my worst investment going to all these things that you just like you know these things that you just like you know these things that you just like you know beforehand are going to suck. You're not beforehand are going to suck. You're not beforehand are going to suck. You're not going to like them, but there's some going to like them, but there's some going to like them, but there's some sliver of you that thinks like there sliver of you that thinks like there sliver of you that thinks like there might be something good there and then might be something good there and then might be something good there and then >> you required to go or it was an optional >> you required to go or it was an optional >> you required to go or it was an optional attend and then you've regretted it. attend and then you've regretted it. attend and then you've regretted it. >> It was it was an optional attend. It was >> It was it was an optional attend. It was >> It was it was an optional attend. It was a lack of judgment. a lack of judgment. a lack of judgment. >> Gotcha. What about you, Sean? >> Gotcha. What about you, Sean? >> Gotcha. What about you, Sean? >> I like it. Um Sam, anything you want to >> I like it. Um Sam, anything you want to >> I like it. Um Sam, anything you want to add to her uh her networking event add to her uh her networking event add to her uh her networking event answer? answer? answer? No, no. I mean, what am I? No, I agree No, no. I mean, what am I? No, I agree No, no. I mean, what am I? No, I agree with you. But yeah, I'm I'm on board. with you. But yeah, I'm I'm on board. with you. But yeah, I'm I'm on board. What about yours, Sean? What's your What about yours, Sean? What's your What about yours, Sean? What's your biggest hell? Or sorry, your biggest biggest hell? Or sorry, your biggest biggest hell? Or sorry, your biggest >> I went to one networking event with you >> I went to one networking event with you >> I went to one networking event with you and uh I thought she did great. I was and uh I thought she did great. I was and uh I thought she did great. I was like, "Wow, she's such a natural at like, "Wow, she's such a natural at like, "Wow, she's such a natural at these events." Not because because you these events." Not because because you these events." Not because because you weren't trying. And I was like, "Oh, weren't trying. And I was like, "Oh, weren't trying. And I was like, "Oh, people just seem to gravitate towards people just seem to gravitate towards people just seem to gravitate towards Steph. They want to hang out with her. Steph. They want to hang out with her. Steph. They want to hang out with her. She seems like a safe space for She seems like a safe space for She seems like a safe space for everybody who's exhausted from the everybody who's exhausted from the everybody who's exhausted from the networking part of this event." And uh I networking part of this event." And uh I networking part of this event." And uh I just remember thinking, I don't know how just remember thinking, I don't know how just remember thinking, I don't know how she did that, but I like that. That was she did that, but I like that. That was she did that, but I like that. That was good. By the way, I had a great year at good. By the way, I had a great year at good. By the way, I had a great year at networking events. I went to an email networking events. I went to an email networking events. I went to an email newsletter conference. We went to uh newsletter conference. We went to uh newsletter conference. We went to uh Sean's basketball thing. Uh I went to Sean's basketball thing. Uh I went to Sean's basketball thing. Uh I went to the HubSpot conference like somewhat the HubSpot conference like somewhat the HubSpot conference like somewhat recently. I had a great year. Did you recently. I had a great year. Did you recently. I had a great year. Did you have like I guess I only have like I guess I only have like I guess I only >> much better than the others. What? Um so >> much better than the others. What? Um so >> much better than the others. What? Um so so you had a great uh like you what so you had a great uh like you what so you had a great uh like you what >> I like going to network time. >> I like going to network time. >> I like going to network time. >> Yeah. Like if [snorts] I pick a Yeah. >> Yeah. Like if [snorts] I pick a Yeah. >> Yeah. Like if [snorts] I pick a Yeah. Because I like seeing old friends. I've Because I like seeing old friends. I've Because I like seeing old friends. I've been in the industry for long enough but been in the industry for long enough but been in the industry for long enough but it's the only time that I see old it's the only time that I see old it's the only time that I see old buddies. buddies. buddies. >> That's fair. Yeah, that's true. Like did >> That's fair. Yeah, that's true. Like did >> That's fair. Yeah, that's true. Like did you did you like going to you did you like going to you did you like going to >> I didn't really go to I didn't really go >> I didn't really go to I didn't really go >> I didn't really go to I didn't really go to anything this year. to anything this year. to anything this year. >> You went to inbound? >> You went to inbound? >> You went to inbound? >> Well, that was in San Francisco. I just >> Well, that was in San Francisco. I just >> Well, that was in San Francisco. I just showed up and gave my talk and I left. showed up and gave my talk and I left. showed up and gave my talk and I left. So, it was like, you know, a very quick So, it was like, you know, a very quick So, it was like, you know, a very quick thing. Um thing. Um thing. Um or I I hung out with Dash actually at or I I hung out with Dash actually at or I I hung out with Dash actually at the event. That was like kind of the the event. That was like kind of the the event. That was like kind of the only thing I did. only thing I did. only thing I did. >> Yes. But okay, I'll give you my worst >> Yes. But okay, I'll give you my worst >> Yes. But okay, I'll give you my worst investment of the year. Um once again, I investment of the year. Um once again, I investment of the year. Um once again, I took these literally. So, here's my This took these literally. So, here's my This took these literally. So, here's my This wasn't Okay, so I guess this is a little wasn't Okay, so I guess this is a little wasn't Okay, so I guess this is a little less literal. I didn't lose money much less literal. I didn't lose money much less literal. I didn't lose money much in any investments this year, which was in any investments this year, which was in any investments this year, which was nice because In prior years, if you go nice because In prior years, if you go nice because In prior years, if you go back and watch these awards, it's like, back and watch these awards, it's like, back and watch these awards, it's like, "Hey, invested in this crypto Ponzi "Hey, invested in this crypto Ponzi "Hey, invested in this crypto Ponzi scheme. What's up with that?" Uh, you scheme. What's up with that?" Uh, you scheme. What's up with that?" Uh, you know, that was that was pretty bad. You know, that was that was pretty bad. You know, that was that was pretty bad. You know, I've I've run into some trouble know, I've I've run into some trouble know, I've I've run into some trouble along the way. This year, I didn't have along the way. This year, I didn't have along the way. This year, I didn't have any. But I will say this, I realized I any. But I will say this, I realized I any. But I will say this, I realized I found out this year that I had I passed found out this year that I had I passed found out this year that I had I passed on three different 10 billion dollar on three different 10 billion dollar on three different 10 billion dollar startup investments startup investments startup investments that were right in my wheelhouse and uh that were right in my wheelhouse and uh that were right in my wheelhouse and uh unbelievable. So, the first one was Poly unbelievable. So, the first one was Poly unbelievable. So, the first one was Poly Market. I was one of the early users, Market. I was one of the early users, Market. I was one of the early users, probably the first 5,000 users of Poly probably the first 5,000 users of Poly probably the first 5,000 users of Poly Market. I'm a degenerate gambler. I, you Market. I'm a degenerate gambler. I, you Market. I'm a degenerate gambler. I, you know, my college GPA is like half a know, my college GPA is like half a know, my college GPA is like half a point lower than it should be because I point lower than it should be because I point lower than it should be because I used to go gamble on riverboats in used to go gamble on riverboats in used to go gamble on riverboats in international waters and stuff instead international waters and stuff instead international waters and stuff instead of going to class. Like, I am a of going to class. Like, I am a of going to class. Like, I am a degenerate gambler. I was using Poly degenerate gambler. I was using Poly degenerate gambler. I was using Poly Market. I was VPNing to pretend I'm in Market. I was VPNing to pretend I'm in Market. I was VPNing to pretend I'm in Morocco to place bets, uh, allegedly. Morocco to place bets, uh, allegedly. Morocco to place bets, uh, allegedly. And so, you know, I'm using Poly Market. And so, you know, I'm using Poly Market. And so, you know, I'm using Poly Market. I love the thing. The founder is in my I love the thing. The founder is in my I love the thing. The founder is in my DMs. He's he screenshotted his phone and DMs. He's he screenshotted his phone and DMs. He's he screenshotted his phone and posted one of my blog posts as the posted one of my blog posts as the posted one of my blog posts as the background of his phone. He's like, "I background of his phone. He's like, "I background of his phone. He's like, "I thought you'd like this. This is my thought you'd like this. This is my thought you'd like this. This is my background of my phone this week." And I background of my phone this week." And I background of my phone this week." And I was like the ultimate in and didn't was like the ultimate in and didn't was like the ultimate in and didn't somehow end up making an investment. somehow end up making an investment. somehow end up making an investment. Just like didn't didn't go actively try Just like didn't didn't go actively try Just like didn't didn't go actively try to do it uh until it was too late. Khi, to do it uh until it was too late. Khi, to do it uh until it was too late. Khi, same thing, another prediction market, same thing, another prediction market, same thing, another prediction market, same product. If I didn't hit the same product. If I didn't hit the same product. If I didn't hit the winner, you know, the first winner, Poly winner, you know, the first winner, Poly winner, you know, the first winner, Poly Market, maybe I could have hit the Market, maybe I could have hit the Market, maybe I could have hit the second winner. I go back, I check my second winner. I go back, I check my second winner. I go back, I check my DMs, they've been DMing me since 2020. DMs, they've been DMing me since 2020. DMs, they've been DMing me since 2020. Hey, huge fans of the pod. would love to Hey, huge fans of the pod. would love to Hey, huge fans of the pod. would love to do something with you. Uh, you know, all do something with you. Uh, you know, all do something with you. Uh, you know, all I needed to do was uh answer. And guess I needed to do was uh answer. And guess I needed to do was uh answer. And guess what? I did answer. And here's my here's what? I did answer. And here's my here's what? I did answer. And here's my here's what my great answer was. Ah, so pretty what my great answer was. Ah, so pretty what my great answer was. Ah, so pretty similar to Poly Market then, huh? similar to Poly Market then, huh? similar to Poly Market then, huh? [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] That was my son of a gun answer. And so That was my son of a gun answer. And so That was my son of a gun answer. And so >> you have made >> you have made >> you have made >> the valuations of those were probably >> the valuations of those were probably >> the valuations of those were probably sub$und00 million for sure at that sub$und00 million for sure at that sub$und00 million for sure at that stage. Um, stage. Um, stage. Um, and now they're both above 10 billion. and now they're both above 10 billion. and now they're both above 10 billion. M. M. M. >> So, no public math, but somebody at the >> So, no public math, but somebody at the >> So, no public math, but somebody at the chat can tell me how much money I lost. chat can tell me how much money I lost. chat can tell me how much money I lost. And the last one was whatnot. So, I get And the last one was whatnot. So, I get And the last one was whatnot. So, I get acquired by Twitch, the number one live acquired by Twitch, the number one live acquired by Twitch, the number one live streaming platform. When I'm at Twitch, streaming platform. When I'm at Twitch, streaming platform. When I'm at Twitch, guess what I do? I tell Twitch, "Hey, guess what I do? I tell Twitch, "Hey, guess what I do? I tell Twitch, "Hey, we're losing the the battlefield on we're losing the the battlefield on we're losing the the battlefield on mobile. I become the leader of mobile at mobile. I become the leader of mobile at mobile. I become the leader of mobile at Twitch to do mobile live streaming." Twitch to do mobile live streaming." Twitch to do mobile live streaming." >> Dude, we talked about these guys on the >> Dude, we talked about these guys on the >> Dude, we talked about these guys on the pod, too. You had a great spiel on that. pod, too. You had a great spiel on that. pod, too. You had a great spiel on that. >> Talked about on the pod. I actually meet >> Talked about on the pod. I actually meet >> Talked about on the pod. I actually meet with them. I try I asked to invest. I'm with them. I try I asked to invest. I'm with them. I try I asked to invest. I'm like, "Guys, I could help you. I know like, "Guys, I could help you. I know like, "Guys, I could help you. I know this space inside and out. I know all this space inside and out. I know all this space inside and out. I know all the talent you need to recruit. I know the talent you need to recruit. I know the talent you need to recruit. I know the best people from Twitch. We'll go the best people from Twitch. We'll go the best people from Twitch. We'll go poach them. We'll raid the pantry. This poach them. We'll raid the pantry. This poach them. We'll raid the pantry. This is going to be amazing. And they were is going to be amazing. And they were is going to be amazing. And they were like, he was like, "Yeah, you know, like, he was like, "Yeah, you know, like, he was like, "Yeah, you know, we're pretty oversubscribed." And I was we're pretty oversubscribed." And I was we're pretty oversubscribed." And I was like, "But it's me. Make some space." like, "But it's me. Make some space." like, "But it's me. Make some space." And he's like, "All right, let me get And he's like, "All right, let me get And he's like, "All right, let me get back to you." He did not get back to me. back to you." He did not get back to me. back to you." He did not get back to me. And I did not get back to him. And I did And I did not get back to him. And I did And I did not get back to him. And I did not invest in whatnot's first round. Um, not invest in whatnot's first round. Um, not invest in whatnot's first round. Um, and I and now it's a$10 billion company and I and now it's a$10 billion company and I and now it's a$10 billion company also. And it was literally the thing I also. And it was literally the thing I also. And it was literally the thing I was doing. The thing I know probably, was doing. The thing I know probably, was doing. The thing I know probably, you know, there's not there's not a you know, there's not there's not a you know, there's not there's not a hundred people on earth that know that hundred people on earth that know that hundred people on earth that know that space better than I do. space better than I do. space better than I do. >> That sucks. >> That sucks. >> That sucks. >> You know, and missed it. >> You know, and missed it. >> You know, and missed it. >> How many of your investments went under >> How many of your investments went under >> How many of your investments went under this year? Because I this was the year this year? Because I this was the year this year? Because I this was the year where uh I probably got 10 emails of where uh I probably got 10 emails of where uh I probably got 10 emails of different angel companies that I uh different angel companies that I uh different angel companies that I uh angel investments that I made that they angel investments that I made that they angel investments that I made that they went under. It took about three years. went under. It took about three years. went under. It took about three years. >> Well, it's it's the worst phase, right? >> Well, it's it's the worst phase, right? >> Well, it's it's the worst phase, right? So, we're I we're probably both since we So, we're I we're probably both since we So, we're I we're probably both since we started like angel investing. You you started like angel investing. You you started like angel investing. You you had a syndicate, I had a fund had a syndicate, I had a fund had a syndicate, I had a fund >> like 21. >> like 21. >> like 21. >> The worst phase is going to be like year >> The worst phase is going to be like year >> The worst phase is going to be like year three, year four because the only three, year four because the only three, year four because the only companies that are exiting are either companies that are exiting are either companies that are exiting are either small exits or just shutdowns at this small exits or just shutdowns at this small exits or just shutdowns at this stage. Your winners are going to ride stage. Your winners are going to ride stage. Your winners are going to ride for another five years. So it's like for another five years. So it's like for another five years. So it's like Angelus, you got a distribution and you Angelus, you got a distribution and you Angelus, you got a distribution and you go check and it's like $341 from this go check and it's like $341 from this go check and it's like $341 from this company and then the founders bragging company and then the founders bragging company and then the founders bragging about their acquisition on Twitter and about their acquisition on Twitter and about their acquisition on Twitter and you're like just shoot me now. you're like just shoot me now. you're like just shoot me now. >> Would you um going back how many angel >> Would you um going back how many angel >> Would you um going back how many angel investments have you done, Steph? I investments have you done, Steph? I investments have you done, Steph? I don't know, like 15. don't know, like 15. don't know, like 15. >> Okay. So, going back and Okay. So, first >> Okay. So, going back and Okay. So, first >> Okay. So, going back and Okay. So, first of all, look forward in the future, uh, of all, look forward in the future, uh, of all, look forward in the future, uh, five years from now, let's say you five years from now, let's say you five years from now, let's say you invested $100. What do you think that invested $100. What do you think that invested $100. What do you think that $100 is going to turn into for both of $100 is going to turn into for both of $100 is going to turn into for both of you or what what irr? I don't know how you or what what irr? I don't know how you or what what irr? I don't know how you want to measure it, but you want to measure it, but you want to measure it, but >> it's hard to say. I think it'll three >> it's hard to say. I think it'll three >> it's hard to say. I think it'll three three to fourx basically over the 10ear three to fourx basically over the 10ear three to fourx basically over the 10ear period. So it would be something like a period. So it would be something like a period. So it would be something like a this is a guess you know if my personal this is a guess you know if my personal this is a guess you know if my personal guess would be like something like a guess would be like something like a guess would be like something like a something like a 3 to 4x over that over something like a 3 to 4x over that over something like a 3 to 4x over that over the 10 year lifespan of the 10 year lifespan of the 10 year lifespan of >> that does not seem worth it >> that does not seem worth it >> that does not seem worth it >> right >> right >> right >> that doesn't even seem worth it for the >> that doesn't even seem worth it for the >> that doesn't even seem worth it for the K1s I have to deal with honestly I don't K1s I have to deal with honestly I don't K1s I have to deal with honestly I don't know if you guys are different my know if you guys are different my know if you guys are different my learning from peak zerp was I never want learning from peak zerp was I never want learning from peak zerp was I never want to angel invest again I unless it's a to angel invest again I unless it's a to angel invest again I unless it's a company that I want to be involved with company that I want to be involved with company that I want to be involved with actively actively actively >> it depends so Like I use a conservative >> it depends so Like I use a conservative >> it depends so Like I use a conservative estimate just to keep not like get my estimate just to keep not like get my estimate just to keep not like get my hopes up or just like false promise hopes up or just like false promise hopes up or just like false promise myself. But the thing with these is it myself. But the thing with these is it myself. But the thing with these is it depends on basically your bet. Like I depends on basically your bet. Like I depends on basically your bet. Like I didund 110 deals. didund 110 deals. didund 110 deals. >> It just depends on your top four deals. >> It just depends on your top four deals. >> It just depends on your top four deals. >> So it's like I have these four companies >> So it's like I have these four companies >> So it's like I have these four companies >> right now. They're doing amazing. >> right now. They're doing amazing. >> right now. They're doing amazing. They're you know like whatever 100x They're you know like whatever 100x They're you know like whatever 100x returns on each of them or 50 to 100x. returns on each of them or 50 to 100x. returns on each of them or 50 to 100x. But like will they will they last? Will But like will they will they last? Will But like will they will they last? Will they exit? Are they going to go up they exit? Are they going to go up they exit? Are they going to go up another order of magnitude from here? another order of magnitude from here? another order of magnitude from here? Like that's what you need in angel Like that's what you need in angel Like that's what you need in angel investing is to get like this sort of investing is to get like this sort of investing is to get like this sort of like like like >> multiundredx or thousandx type of return >> multiundredx or thousandx type of return >> multiundredx or thousandx type of return and then you look like a genius but you and then you look like a genius but you and then you look like a genius but you don't really know for a while to be don't really know for a while to be don't really know for a while to be honest like even the companies that are honest like even the companies that are honest like even the companies that are kicking ass right now the breakouts kicking ass right now the breakouts kicking ass right now the breakouts >> they were you know it's it's hard to >> they were you know it's it's hard to >> they were you know it's it's hard to know can they sustain it will they get know can they sustain it will they get know can they sustain it will they get the will they time the exit will they the will they time the exit will they the will they time the exit will they actually IPO what's going to happen you actually IPO what's going to happen you actually IPO what's going to happen you know it's it's hard to know know it's it's hard to know know it's it's hard to know >> I did I've done 56 my first two or three >> I did I've done 56 my first two or three >> I did I've done 56 my first two or three were pretty great like you know maybe were pretty great like you know maybe were pretty great like you know maybe 10x or plus um and then my last two were 10x or plus um and then my last two were 10x or plus um and then my last two were like 100x or something like crazy like like 100x or something like crazy like like 100x or something like crazy like that. And so basically I had to go that. And so basically I had to go that. And so basically I had to go through 50 of them to get like the one through 50 of them to get like the one through 50 of them to get like the one or two winners which is pretty pretty or two winners which is pretty pretty or two winners which is pretty pretty wild. And so it will be wild. And so it will be wild. And so it will be >> it's the normal hit rate. >> it's the normal hit rate. >> it's the normal hit rate. >> It's normal but it but it doesn't feel >> It's normal but it but it doesn't feel >> It's normal but it but it doesn't feel good when you're on number 48. good when you're on number 48. good when you're on number 48. >> The the trick isn't even um out of a >> The the trick isn't even um out of a >> The the trick isn't even um out of a hundred can you get 12 instead of six. hundred can you get 12 instead of six. hundred can you get 12 instead of six. It's are your six as big as the the the It's are your six as big as the the the It's are your six as big as the the the big winners are in any given cohort of big winners are in any given cohort of big winners are in any given cohort of companies, right? Like and it's also companies, right? Like and it's also companies, right? Like and it's also hard to know. I invested in Replet and hard to know. I invested in Replet and hard to know. I invested in Replet and it had like 2 million in revenue. It now it had like 2 million in revenue. It now it had like 2 million in revenue. It now has 250 million in re annual revenue. has 250 million in re annual revenue. has 250 million in re annual revenue. It's growing like crazy. Like it's It's growing like crazy. Like it's It's growing like crazy. Like it's unbelievable. But like where does this unbelievable. But like where does this unbelievable. But like where does this all go? It's hard to it's hard to know, all go? It's hard to it's hard to know, all go? It's hard to it's hard to know, you know, if that's sustainable to to you know, if that's sustainable to to you know, if that's sustainable to to keep keep growing as fast as they've keep keep growing as fast as they've keep keep growing as fast as they've been growing. been growing. been growing. >> All right. So, next category is the >> All right. So, next category is the >> All right. So, next category is the biggest personal L that we took. Okay. biggest personal L that we took. Okay. biggest personal L that we took. Okay. I'm going to tell you what mine is, and I'm going to tell you what mine is, and I'm going to tell you what mine is, and it's going to make you guys all just it's going to make you guys all just it's going to make you guys all just like uh cringe. So, basically, I was at like uh cringe. So, basically, I was at like uh cringe. So, basically, I was at a party. this about six months ago and I a party. this about six months ago and I a party. this about six months ago and I overhear this group of people talking overhear this group of people talking overhear this group of people talking about being pregnant and this one lady I about being pregnant and this one lady I about being pregnant and this one lady I I can't even tell it tell you I asked I can't even tell it tell you I asked I can't even tell it tell you I asked her when she was due. her when she was due. her when she was due. >> I've done that one. >> I've done that one. >> I've done that one. >> She wasn't due. >> She wasn't due. >> She wasn't due. >> She wasn't due and I I said >> She wasn't due and I I said >> She wasn't due and I I said >> I said what do you do, >> I said what do you do, >> I said what do you do, >> dude? I spent >> dude? I spent >> dude? I spent >> looking at me like that. >> looking at me like that. >> looking at me like that. >> I spent 30 seconds looking for an out. >> I spent 30 seconds looking for an out. >> I spent 30 seconds looking for an out. Oh, I thought I I And then in front of Oh, I thought I I And then in front of Oh, I thought I I And then in front of five other people, I just apologized. I five other people, I just apologized. I five other people, I just apologized. I [laughter] said, "Sorry." And I walked [laughter] said, "Sorry." And I walked [laughter] said, "Sorry." And I walked away. I said, "I'm so sorry." I away. I said, "I'm so sorry." I away. I said, "I'm so sorry." I [laughter] I I [laughter] I I [laughter] I I tried. I was like, "Oh, guy falling off tried. I was like, "Oh, guy falling off tried. I was like, "Oh, guy falling off a cliff grabbing for trees and a cliff grabbing for trees and a cliff grabbing for trees and [laughter] I couldn't grab a branch." [laughter] I couldn't grab a branch." [laughter] I couldn't grab a branch." And I was like, I uh I I thought you And I was like, I uh I I thought you And I was like, I uh I I thought you said you were pregnant and I didn't see said you were pregnant and I didn't see said you were pregnant and I didn't see your kid with you, but so I didn't know your kid with you, but so I didn't know your kid with you, but so I didn't know like you had a kid and you left him like you had a kid and you left him like you had a kid and you left him behind. And then eventually it just was behind. And then eventually it just was behind. And then eventually it just was I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah, I just apologized. Yeah, I just apologized. Yeah, I just apologized. >> It's funny because on podcast, you know, >> It's funny because on podcast, you know, >> It's funny because on podcast, you know, [clears throat] self-deprecating is [clears throat] self-deprecating is [clears throat] self-deprecating is good, good, good, >> but like what's [laughter] >> but like what's [laughter] >> but like what's [laughter] full deprecating? Don't go full depre. full deprecating? Don't go full depre. full deprecating? Don't go full depre. You went full deprecating there. You went full deprecating there. You went full deprecating there. >> I I just like I I'm not joking. And then >> I I just like I I'm not joking. And then >> I I just like I I'm not joking. And then my nanny was with me. Like we went to a my nanny was with me. Like we went to a my nanny was with me. Like we went to a party and she was like, "You really blew party and she was like, "You really blew party and she was like, "You really blew that one." I was like, that one." I was like, that one." I was like, >> I could tell I did that at a Christmas >> I could tell I did that at a Christmas >> I could tell I did that at a Christmas party in 2013. I could tell you the party in 2013. I could tell you the party in 2013. I could tell you the exact place and date where that was. exact place and date where that was. exact place and date where that was. >> And then it was like I've just never >> And then it was like I've just never >> And then it was like I've just never it's never left me. How how it's never left me. How how it's never left me. How how >> I knew not to do that. I knew not to do >> I knew not to do that. I knew not to do >> I knew not to do that. I knew not to do that but I just like that but I just like that but I just like >> you about when I did it and then you >> you about when I did it and then you >> you about when I did it and then you >> I knew not to do it but it's sort of >> I knew not to do it but it's sort of >> I knew not to do it but it's sort of like I don't know like when you you like I don't know like when you you like I don't know like when you you instinctively stop at a red light like I instinctively stop at a red light like I instinctively stop at a red light like I just thought I heard her say that she just thought I heard her say that she just thought I heard her say that she was pregnant and I just said wait what was pregnant and I just said wait what was pregnant and I just said wait what do you do? I don't know. It was do you do? I don't know. It was do you do? I don't know. It was horrible. And like it's one of these horrible. And like it's one of these horrible. And like it's one of these things that I'm going to remember for things that I'm going to remember for things that I'm going to remember for the next 50 years. [laughter] the next 50 years. [laughter] the next 50 years. [laughter] >> Wait I'm so curious. What do these women >> Wait I'm so curious. What do these women >> Wait I'm so curious. What do these women say when you apologize? Are they like oh say when you apologize? Are they like oh say when you apologize? Are they like oh it's okay like people do this to me all it's okay like people do this to me all it's okay like people do this to me all the time. Or are they like, "You're an the time. Or are they like, "You're an the time. Or are they like, "You're an asshole." asshole." asshole." >> No, she rubbed my face. She basically >> No, she rubbed my face. She basically >> No, she rubbed my face. She basically just smiled like smuggly. You know, just smiled like smuggly. You know, just smiled like smuggly. You know, screw this lady actually because screw this lady actually because screw this lady actually because [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] it's her fault. No, she like looked at it's her fault. No, she like looked at it's her fault. No, she like looked at me and just like she like acted me and just like she like acted me and just like she like acted disappointed in me, [laughter] disappointed in me, [laughter] disappointed in me, [laughter] >> which she was. >> which she was. >> which she was. >> So, I don't acting. >> So, I don't acting. >> So, I don't acting. >> She looked pregnant. She looked like a >> She looked pregnant. She looked like a >> She looked pregnant. She looked like a normal person just had a big belly normal person just had a big belly normal person just had a big belly >> doubling [laughter] down. She looked. >> doubling [laughter] down. She looked. >> doubling [laughter] down. She looked. >> Wow, that's outrageous. Amazing. We >> Wow, that's outrageous. Amazing. We >> Wow, that's outrageous. Amazing. We should uh we should segment to a hubspot should uh we should segment to a hubspot should uh we should segment to a hubspot ad [laughter] ad [laughter] ad [laughter] just that >> speak. >> speak. >> Sean, you go next. >> Sean, you go next. >> Sean, you go next. >> All right. So, I have a I have a bad >> All right. So, I have a I have a bad >> All right. So, I have a I have a bad one, too. Um, so I got jury duty this one, too. Um, so I got jury duty this one, too. Um, so I got jury duty this year in April and I was like I've never year in April and I was like I've never year in April and I was like I've never got I've never had to go like they call got I've never had to go like they call got I've never had to go like they call you know sometimes you call in because you know sometimes you call in because you know sometimes you call in because it's a every year thing but it's like it's a every year thing but it's like it's a every year thing but it's like Russian roulette so you know you call in Russian roulette so you know you call in Russian roulette so you know you call in they're like you don't need to come in they're like you don't need to come in they're like you don't need to come in or you go in and right away they're like or you go in and right away they're like or you go in and right away they're like hey you're good to go. Um I've used a hey you're good to go. Um I've used a hey you're good to go. Um I've used a hardship thing like I got to be at work. hardship thing like I got to be at work. hardship thing like I got to be at work. I got out before. So this year I expect I got out before. So this year I expect I got out before. So this year I expect it's gonna go swimmingly again. And I it's gonna go swimmingly again. And I it's gonna go swimmingly again. And I show up and all of a sudden it's like, show up and all of a sudden it's like, show up and all of a sudden it's like, "No, no, no. You're definitely going to "No, no, no. You're definitely going to "No, no, no. You're definitely going to be needed. You're definitely going to be be needed. You're definitely going to be be needed. You're definitely going to be seen." There's a really big case and I'm seen." There's a really big case and I'm seen." There's a really big case and I'm like, "What? I don't want a big case. like, "What? I don't want a big case. like, "What? I don't want a big case. This is bad." Um, and so I get into the This is bad." Um, and so I get into the This is bad." Um, and so I get into the to the jury duty like where they're like to the jury duty like where they're like to the jury duty like where they're like vetting people, right? And the judge vetting people, right? And the judge vetting people, right? And the judge gives this big speech about civic duty gives this big speech about civic duty gives this big speech about civic duty and like there's a presentation like not and like there's a presentation like not and like there's a presentation like not even a presentation. Remember prey? The even a presentation. Remember prey? The even a presentation. Remember prey? The judge had a the judge had a prey going judge had a the judge had a prey going judge had a the judge had a prey going on. [laughter] It was like zooming. on. [laughter] It was like zooming. on. [laughter] It was like zooming. >> The judge is like proud of his >> The judge is like proud of his >> The judge is like proud of his animations. He's like animations. He's like animations. He's like >> exactly like everybody is the first time >> exactly like everybody is the first time >> exactly like everybody is the first time they use prei. They're like, "Holy [ __ ] they use prei. They're like, "Holy [ __ ] they use prei. They're like, "Holy [ __ ] this [laughter] is better than Avatar." this [laughter] is better than Avatar." this [laughter] is better than Avatar." Like, and so so the judge is doing a Like, and so so the judge is doing a Like, and so so the judge is doing a prey about like the founding fathers and prey about like the founding fathers and prey about like the founding fathers and how this is the jury duty is the bedrock how this is the jury duty is the bedrock how this is the jury duty is the bedrock of society and all this [ __ ] As you of society and all this [ __ ] As you of society and all this [ __ ] As you might guess, I'm I'm completely unmoved. might guess, I'm I'm completely unmoved. might guess, I'm I'm completely unmoved. I'm completely unpatriotic in this way. I'm completely unpatriotic in this way. I'm completely unpatriotic in this way. I do I do not care. And so I'm like just I do I do not care. And so I'm like just I do I do not care. And so I'm like just formulating my idea of like how I'm formulating my idea of like how I'm formulating my idea of like how I'm gonna get out of this. So I'm like, "Oh, gonna get out of this. So I'm like, "Oh, gonna get out of this. So I'm like, "Oh, I'll just say I have a work trip." Easy. I'll just say I have a work trip." Easy. I'll just say I have a work trip." Easy. Uh they gave the dates. Funny enough, I Uh they gave the dates. Funny enough, I Uh they gave the dates. Funny enough, I got a work trip. So, uh I'm in the row. got a work trip. So, uh I'm in the row. got a work trip. So, uh I'm in the row. So there's like seven people ahead of So there's like seven people ahead of So there's like seven people ahead of me. First person stands up and says, me. First person stands up and says, me. First person stands up and says, "Uh, your honor, I have a I have a work "Uh, your honor, I have a I have a work "Uh, your honor, I have a I have a work trip. I'm not going to be able to trip. I'm not going to be able to trip. I'm not going to be able to attend." And he says, "Um, do you have attend." And he says, "Um, do you have attend." And he says, "Um, do you have the booking information? Can you please the booking information? Can you please the booking information? Can you please show it to me?" And I'm like, "What?" show it to me?" And I'm like, "What?" show it to me?" And I'm like, "What?" And so that guy starts So I go on my And so that guy starts So I go on my And so that guy starts So I go on my phone and I'm like, phone and I'm like, phone and I'm like, >> "Book a flight." So, I book a flight and >> "Book a flight." So, I book a flight and >> "Book a flight." So, I book a flight and person number two goes, "I don't hear person number two goes, "I don't hear person number two goes, "I don't hear them. I'm booking a flight." Person them. I'm booking a flight." Person them. I'm booking a flight." Person three goes, "I'm booking a flight." Uh, three goes, "I'm booking a flight." Uh, three goes, "I'm booking a flight." Uh, the judge has reviewed that person's the judge has reviewed that person's the judge has reviewed that person's booking and says, "Um, this was booked booking and says, "Um, this was booked booking and says, "Um, this was booked today and the you got your or this was today and the you got your or this was today and the you got your or this was booked in the like the window after you booked in the like the window after you booked in the like the window after you reserved notice. The flight needed to be reserved notice. The flight needed to be reserved notice. The flight needed to be booked before that." booked before that." booked before that." >> So, now I've got a booking and my lie is >> So, now I've got a booking and my lie is >> So, now I've got a booking and my lie is gone. So, I'm like, "Okay, what am I gone. So, I'm like, "Okay, what am I gone. So, I'm like, "Okay, what am I going to do next?" So, I the next person going to do next?" So, I the next person going to do next?" So, I the next person goes and they say like, "I'm really goes and they say like, "I'm really goes and they say like, "I'm really important at work." And so I'm like, I important at work." And so I'm like, I important at work." And so I'm like, I have this podcast and I'm like, that's have this podcast and I'm like, that's have this podcast and I'm like, that's not going to work. So I'm like, that's not going to work. So I'm like, that's not going to work. So I'm like, that's not going to work. What do I do next? So not going to work. What do I do next? So not going to work. What do I do next? So eventually it comes to me and I'm like, eventually it comes to me and I'm like, eventually it comes to me and I'm like, uh, I have a I do have a baby at home. uh, I have a I do have a baby at home. uh, I have a I do have a baby at home. So I was like, I have a baby at home. I So I was like, I have a baby at home. I So I was like, I have a baby at home. I need to be there to take care of the need to be there to take care of the need to be there to take care of the baby. My wife works. And so judge is baby. My wife works. And so judge is baby. My wife works. And so judge is like, does your wife work at home? And like, does your wife work at home? And like, does your wife work at home? And I'm like, it's a personal question, but I'm like, it's a personal question, but I'm like, it's a personal question, but uh, so I'm like, do I lie? Do I not lie? uh, so I'm like, do I lie? Do I not lie? uh, so I'm like, do I lie? Do I not lie? I'm like, she is at home, but but but I'm like, she is at home, but but but I'm like, she is at home, but but but I'm like trying to figure out like how I'm like trying to figure out like how I'm like trying to figure out like how do I like can I can I muddy the waters a do I like can I can I muddy the waters a do I like can I can I muddy the waters a little bit? So I was like, but you know little bit? So I was like, but you know little bit? So I was like, but you know she's and basically the only idea that she's and basically the only idea that she's and basically the only idea that comes to my mind is to I'm like I'm like comes to my mind is to I'm like I'm like comes to my mind is to I'm like I'm like >> insult her. >> insult her. >> insult her. >> Yeah. I'm like I just say she's a bad >> Yeah. I'm like I just say she's a bad >> Yeah. I'm like I just say she's a bad mom. Like that's not going to work. I'm mom. Like that's not going to work. I'm mom. Like that's not going to work. I'm like caretaker. like caretaker. like caretaker. >> She's a drunk sir. >> She's a drunk sir. >> She's a drunk sir. >> So I'm like I'm the primary caretaker of >> So I'm like I'm the primary caretaker of >> So I'm like I'm the primary caretaker of this baby. this baby. this baby. >> And then like you know like I even >> And then like you know like I even >> And then like you know like I even remember the baby's middle name at this remember the baby's middle name at this remember the baby's middle name at this point. And then she's like, she's like, point. And then she's like, she's like, point. And then she's like, she's like, "So, could your wife take care of the "So, could your wife take care of the "So, could your wife take care of the baby?" And I'm like, "Oh, God." Like, baby?" And I'm like, "Oh, God." Like, baby?" And I'm like, "Oh, God." Like, I'm going way deeper in than I thought I I'm going way deeper in than I thought I I'm going way deeper in than I thought I was gonna go. And so I'm like, was gonna go. And so I'm like, was gonna go. And so I'm like, >> "Yeah, but I just want to feel >> "Yeah, but I just want to feel >> "Yeah, but I just want to feel comfortable with it." And then she's comfortable with it." And then she's comfortable with it." And then she's like, "Why?" like, "Why?" like, "Why?" >> You're like, "Look, your honor, it's >> You're like, "Look, your honor, it's >> You're like, "Look, your honor, it's what is it? Noon. She's already about 8 what is it? Noon. She's already about 8 what is it? Noon. She's already about 8 Xanax deep." Xanax deep." Xanax deep." >> I basically made my wife sound like >> I basically made my wife sound like >> I basically made my wife sound like either a bad mom or like a drug addict either a bad mom or like a drug addict either a bad mom or like a drug addict or something. I like she's a drunk. And or something. I like she's a drunk. And or something. I like she's a drunk. And so I was like, "You know what? I'll be so I was like, "You know what? I'll be so I was like, "You know what? I'll be fine. I'll be here. can't wait to can't fine. I'll be here. can't wait to can't fine. I'll be here. can't wait to can't wait. I'll be I'll be there. And so I wait. I'll be I'll be there. And so I wait. I'll be I'll be there. And so I just let it pass. Girl next to me, she just let it pass. Girl next to me, she just let it pass. Girl next to me, she go the lady asks, uh, she's like, can go the lady asks, uh, she's like, can go the lady asks, uh, she's like, can you do it? Um, and she's like, "No." And you do it? Um, and she's like, "No." And you do it? Um, and she's like, "No." And the judge goes, "Why not?" She goes, the judge goes, "Why not?" She goes, the judge goes, "Why not?" She goes, >> "It's against my religion. I don't >> "It's against my religion. I don't >> "It's against my religion. I don't believe you should judge anyone." believe you should judge anyone." believe you should judge anyone." >> And she's like, "What religion is that?" >> And she's like, "What religion is that?" >> And she's like, "What religion is that?" She goes, and she cited a Bible passage She goes, and she cited a Bible passage She goes, and she cited a Bible passage which was like like basically about like which was like like basically about like which was like like basically about like don't don't judge anyone, therefore, you don't don't judge anyone, therefore, you don't don't judge anyone, therefore, you know, because they don't judge you or know, because they don't judge you or know, because they don't judge you or something. And the judge was like, something. And the judge was like, something. And the judge was like, "Okay, thank you. You're dismissed." And "Okay, thank you. You're dismissed." And "Okay, thank you. You're dismissed." And I was like, I couldn't you? I was like, I couldn't you? I was like, I couldn't you? >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Whoa. >> Whoa. >> Whoa. >> That was it. >> That was it. >> That was it. >> Couldn't you have just told them you're >> Couldn't you have just told them you're >> Couldn't you have just told them you're racist or something? racist or something? racist or something? >> Yeah, I thought about that, but I was >> Yeah, I thought about that, but I was >> Yeah, I thought about that, but I was like I was in a very diverse crowd and I like I was in a very diverse crowd and I like I was in a very diverse crowd and I was like, I still have to like in case I was like, I still have to like in case I was like, I still have to like in case I don't get off with that. I don't want to don't get off with that. I don't want to don't get off with that. I don't want to be around these people where I'm saying be around these people where I'm saying be around these people where I'm saying a lie that I'm racist. So, I you know, a lie that I'm racist. So, I you know, a lie that I'm racist. So, I you know, it was a tough on in in the moment, but it was a tough on in in the moment, but it was a tough on in in the moment, but it was a big the biggest hell I had was it was a big the biggest hell I had was it was a big the biggest hell I had was uh just embarrassing myself. And by the uh just embarrassing myself. And by the uh just embarrassing myself. And by the way, it was so fun. Jury duty was a way, it was so fun. Jury duty was a way, it was so fun. Jury duty was a great time, and I'm glad I got to do it. great time, and I'm glad I got to do it. great time, and I'm glad I got to do it. It was a great opportunity. [laughter] Uh, was did you make them guilty or Uh, was did you make them guilty or innocent? innocent? innocent? >> I didn't get picked in the end for the >> I didn't get picked in the end for the >> I didn't get picked in the end for the actual eight in the box or whatever that actual eight in the box or whatever that actual eight in the box or whatever that like the people who actually go sit like the people who actually go sit like the people who actually go sit there. I just didn't get dismissed there. I just didn't get dismissed there. I just didn't get dismissed early. So I I early. So I I early. So I I >> So you spent the day? >> So you spent the day? >> So you spent the day? >> I spent three days there. Um, >> I spent three days there. Um, >> I spent three days there. Um, >> you should wear a purple heart, man. You >> you should wear a purple heart, man. You >> you should wear a purple heart, man. You look at you. You really just taking one look at you. You really just taking one look at you. You really just taking one for the country. for the country. for the country. >> It was true. >> It was true. >> It was true. >> Um, what's yours, Steph? >> Um, what's yours, Steph? >> Um, what's yours, Steph? >> Guys, I swear my answers get better from >> Guys, I swear my answers get better from >> Guys, I swear my answers get better from here. My biggest personal L um was here. My biggest personal L um was here. My biggest personal L um was staying in a job too long. No shade to staying in a job too long. No shade to staying in a job too long. No shade to my previous employer, but I think my previous employer, but I think my previous employer, but I think >> Sounds like a lot of shade. >> Sounds like a lot of shade. >> Sounds like a lot of shade. >> Sounds like >> Sounds like >> Sounds like >> No, no, I promise. I I promise >> No, no, I promise. I I promise >> No, no, I promise. I I promise >> a canopy. [laughter] >> a canopy. [laughter] >> a canopy. [laughter] >> I just I You guys know I was working on >> I just I You guys know I was working on >> I just I You guys know I was working on a podcast for three years. Um, it was a a podcast for three years. Um, it was a a podcast for three years. Um, it was a really cool opportunity, but I think the really cool opportunity, but I think the really cool opportunity, but I think the epitome of when other people think you epitome of when other people think you epitome of when other people think you should be good at something and you should be good at something and you should be good at something and you think therefore you should be good at think therefore you should be good at think therefore you should be good at something and that you should figure it something and that you should figure it something and that you should figure it out versus like driving full force out versus like driving full force out versus like driving full force towards a thing that you love doing. So, towards a thing that you love doing. So, towards a thing that you love doing. So, >> and it was a pretty prestigious job. I >> and it was a pretty prestigious job. I >> and it was a pretty prestigious job. I think a lot of people would have been think a lot of people would have been think a lot of people would have been drunk off that as well. drunk off that as well. drunk off that as well. >> Yeah. And so now I'm at Grock um working >> Yeah. And so now I'm at Grock um working >> Yeah. And so now I'm at Grock um working on growth and it's just for me way more on growth and it's just for me way more on growth and it's just for me way more fun. And Steph, did we not have a fun. And Steph, did we not have a fun. And Steph, did we not have a conversation about this? Did I not tell conversation about this? Did I not tell conversation about this? Did I not tell you that this was the case? Did I not you that this was the case? Did I not you that this was the case? Did I not try to tell you to don't carry this this try to tell you to don't carry this this try to tell you to don't carry this this guilt or this feeling like you need to guilt or this feeling like you need to guilt or this feeling like you need to to prove whatever and that you're a to prove whatever and that you're a to prove whatever and that you're a superstar and you should be doing superstar and you should be doing superstar and you should be doing superstar things? I think I gave you superstar things? I think I gave you superstar things? I think I gave you that you're a superstar, you should be that you're a superstar, you should be that you're a superstar, you should be doing superstar things talk. doing superstar things talk. doing superstar things talk. >> You 100% did about a year in and it took >> You 100% did about a year in and it took >> You 100% did about a year in and it took me two more years to make the call. me two more years to make the call. me two more years to make the call. >> It didn't land. [laughter] >> It didn't land. [laughter] >> It didn't land. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I'm not very persuasive. All right. Um, >> I'm not very persuasive. All right. Um, >> I'm not very persuasive. All right. Um, next category we have is next category we have is next category we have is >> coolest moment. Coolest moment of the >> coolest moment. Coolest moment of the >> coolest moment. Coolest moment of the year. year. year. >> I've got a good one. >> I've got a good one. >> I've got a good one. >> Actually, can we can we skip to let's do >> Actually, can we can we skip to let's do >> Actually, can we can we skip to let's do a couple of the the non-personal a couple of the the non-personal a couple of the the non-personal stories? We'll come back to that one. stories? We'll come back to that one. stories? We'll come back to that one. So, let's do um you want to do Billy of So, let's do um you want to do Billy of So, let's do um you want to do Billy of the Year or favorite guest? Which one the Year or favorite guest? Which one the Year or favorite guest? Which one you want to do? you want to do? you want to do? >> Let's do um uh Billy of the Year. >> Let's do um uh Billy of the Year. >> Let's do um uh Billy of the Year. >> Okay. Billy of the Year. Um Sam, you go >> Okay. Billy of the Year. Um Sam, you go >> Okay. Billy of the Year. Um Sam, you go first. Who? first. Who? first. Who? >> Yes. I I did this podcast with this guy >> Yes. I I did this podcast with this guy >> Yes. I I did this podcast with this guy named Steve Hton. Steve Hton is a named Steve Hton. Steve Hton is a named Steve Hton. Steve Hton is a billionaire via uh real estate and oil billionaire via uh real estate and oil billionaire via uh real estate and oil and gas. It's very vague, but I can and gas. It's very vague, but I can and gas. It's very vague, but I can explain. But, uh, at the end of the pod, explain. But, uh, at the end of the pod, explain. But, uh, at the end of the pod, I like made like a a joke because we had I like made like a a joke because we had I like made like a a joke because we had talked about this whole podcast about talked about this whole podcast about talked about this whole podcast about how he was a billionaire, but it seemed how he was a billionaire, but it seemed how he was a billionaire, but it seemed like his kids really loved him. And I like his kids really loved him. And I like his kids really loved him. And I like made an off-handed comment like, like made an off-handed comment like, like made an off-handed comment like, "Yeah, man. I should I got to come out "Yeah, man. I should I got to come out "Yeah, man. I should I got to come out and see how you manage your family and see how you manage your family and see how you manage your family sometime. It's an inspiration." And sometime. It's an inspiration." And sometime. It's an inspiration." And without skipping a beat, he was like, without skipping a beat, he was like, without skipping a beat, he was like, "How about in four weeks? We're going to "How about in four weeks? We're going to "How about in four weeks? We're going to be at our uh ski house. Um, we have a be at our uh ski house. Um, we have a be at our uh ski house. Um, we have a room for you." And I was like, "All room for you." And I was like, "All room for you." And I was like, "All right." And uh I just said, "Yes." And I right." And uh I just said, "Yes." And I right." And uh I just said, "Yes." And I had to go downstairs to my wife. I go, had to go downstairs to my wife. I go, had to go downstairs to my wife. I go, "Pack your bags, Sarah. We're going to "Pack your bags, Sarah. We're going to "Pack your bags, Sarah. We're going to Utah." She's like, "With who?" I was Utah." She's like, "With who?" I was Utah." She's like, "With who?" I was like, "I met this guy. I just did a like, "I met this guy. I just did a like, "I met this guy. I just did a podcast with him. I've only known him podcast with him. I've only known him podcast with him. I've only known him for 60 minutes. I don't know anything for 60 minutes. I don't know anything for 60 minutes. I don't know anything about him, but we're going to his house. about him, but we're going to his house. about him, but we're going to his house. [laughter] And I got to his house and it [laughter] And I got to his house and it [laughter] And I got to his house and it was amazing. And it was amazing for a was amazing. And it was amazing for a was amazing. And it was amazing for a bunch of reasons because I got to see bunch of reasons because I got to see bunch of reasons because I got to see how he like uh worked with his family how he like uh worked with his family how he like uh worked with his family and it was really amazing. But it was and it was really amazing. But it was and it was really amazing. But it was pretty funny. They say money doesn't buy pretty funny. They say money doesn't buy pretty funny. They say money doesn't buy happiness, but I was very happy being in happiness, but I was very happy being in happiness, but I was very happy being in the 17,000 foot home with his entire the 17,000 foot home with his entire the 17,000 foot home with his entire family. And I I mean, this sounds like family. And I I mean, this sounds like family. And I I mean, this sounds like I'm being a a dbag, but this is the I'm being a a dbag, but this is the I'm being a a dbag, but this is the truth. I do think that wealthy people truth. I do think that wealthy people truth. I do think that wealthy people see their grown kids more than see their grown kids more than see their grown kids more than non-wealthy people simply for the fact non-wealthy people simply for the fact non-wealthy people simply for the fact that there was room for all of us to be that there was room for all of us to be that there was room for all of us to be there and be comfortable and it was there and be comfortable and it was there and be comfortable and it was amazing and I've since like stayed in amazing and I've since like stayed in amazing and I've since like stayed in touch with his kids and he had another touch with his kids and he had another touch with his kids and he had another family there as well and it was such a family there as well and it was such a family there as well and it was such a fun experience and so Steve Hton was my fun experience and so Steve Hton was my fun experience and so Steve Hton was my Billy of the week. Billy of the year Billy of the week. Billy of the year Billy of the week. Billy of the year Billy of the year love it Steph who you Billy of the year love it Steph who you Billy of the year love it Steph who you got Billy of the year. All right. So, I got Billy of the year. All right. So, I got Billy of the year. All right. So, I tried to start from the perspective of tried to start from the perspective of tried to start from the perspective of what is a piece of technology that I what is a piece of technology that I what is a piece of technology that I think is just incredible and mattered think is just incredible and mattered think is just incredible and mattered this year. That piece of technology for this year. That piece of technology for this year. That piece of technology for me was Whimo. Um, a lot of people are me was Whimo. Um, a lot of people are me was Whimo. Um, a lot of people are familiar with it. I got to interview familiar with it. I got to interview familiar with it. I got to interview their chief chief product officer a few their chief chief product officer a few their chief chief product officer a few years ago in a Whimo. And it's kind of years ago in a Whimo. And it's kind of years ago in a Whimo. And it's kind of crazy when you actually think about it. crazy when you actually think about it. crazy when you actually think about it. I think that was max two years ago, I think that was max two years ago, I think that was max two years ago, maybe three. And when we were riding in maybe three. And when we were riding in maybe three. And when we were riding in that car in San Francisco, people at that car in San Francisco, people at that car in San Francisco, people at that time were still like peering into that time were still like peering into that time were still like peering into the windows like, "Oh my god, look at the windows like, "Oh my god, look at the windows like, "Oh my god, look at that crazy thing." And in the last few that crazy thing." And in the last few that crazy thing." And in the last few years, at least in in San Francisco, years, at least in in San Francisco, years, at least in in San Francisco, Phoenix, a few other cities. It is so Phoenix, a few other cities. It is so Phoenix, a few other cities. It is so normal. There's Whimos upon Whimos upon normal. There's Whimos upon Whimos upon normal. There's Whimos upon Whimos upon like there's I've been at intersections like there's I've been at intersections like there's I've been at intersections where there's eight Whimos at that where there's eight Whimos at that where there's eight Whimos at that intersection. It's intersection. It's intersection. It's >> traffic faster. >> traffic faster. >> traffic faster. >> No, not necessarily. But I think if you >> No, not necessarily. But I think if you >> No, not necessarily. But I think if you could have all the cars on the road, it could have all the cars on the road, it could have all the cars on the road, it would make traffic faster for sure. Um, would make traffic faster for sure. Um, would make traffic faster for sure. Um, but the person I chose, the Billy, I but the person I chose, the Billy, I but the person I chose, the Billy, I don't know if he's actually a don't know if he's actually a don't know if he's actually a billionaire, so I'm cheating a little billionaire, so I'm cheating a little billionaire, so I'm cheating a little bit, but he's for sure a hundreds of bit, but he's for sure a hundreds of bit, but he's for sure a hundreds of millionaire is Sebastian Thrron. He was millionaire is Sebastian Thrron. He was millionaire is Sebastian Thrron. He was um one of the early um one of the early um one of the early >> he's likeound godfather of self-driving. >> he's likeound godfather of self-driving. >> he's likeound godfather of self-driving. >> Exactly. So, let me throw out a few >> Exactly. So, let me throw out a few >> Exactly. So, let me throw out a few different pieces of his timeline. So, he different pieces of his timeline. So, he different pieces of his timeline. So, he was motivated by a personal tragedy. his was motivated by a personal tragedy. his was motivated by a personal tragedy. his childhood friend was killed in a car childhood friend was killed in a car childhood friend was killed in a car accident when he was 18. That got him accident when he was 18. That got him accident when he was 18. That got him invested in trying to figure out this invested in trying to figure out this invested in trying to figure out this self-driving equation in 2005. So 20 self-driving equation in 2005. So 20 self-driving equation in 2005. So 20 years ago, DARPA had a grand challenge years ago, DARPA had a grand challenge years ago, DARPA had a grand challenge funded by the US government. His team funded by the US government. His team funded by the US government. His team won. Then 2007, he goes and he joins won. Then 2007, he goes and he joins won. Then 2007, he goes and he joins Google. And he didn't just create Whimo, Google. And he didn't just create Whimo, Google. And he didn't just create Whimo, he also co-founded and led Google X, he also co-founded and led Google X, he also co-founded and led Google X, their moonshot factory. He co-developed their moonshot factory. He co-developed their moonshot factory. He co-developed Google Street View. And of course, he Google Street View. And of course, he Google Street View. And of course, he was one of the creators of Whimo way was one of the creators of Whimo way was one of the creators of Whimo way back when. But here's the thing. He left back when. But here's the thing. He left back when. But here's the thing. He left in 2014, and he's also gone on to do in 2014, and he's also gone on to do in 2014, and he's also gone on to do some really cool [ __ ] So, in 2011, he some really cool [ __ ] So, in 2011, he some really cool [ __ ] So, in 2011, he put out this introduction to artificial put out this introduction to artificial put out this introduction to artificial intelligence course online for free. intelligence course online for free. intelligence course online for free. 160,000 students enrolled. Um because he 160,000 students enrolled. Um because he 160,000 students enrolled. Um because he saw how people could learn online. You saw how people could learn online. You saw how people could learn online. You don't need to be at Stanford to learn don't need to be at Stanford to learn don't need to be at Stanford to learn about AI, he created Udacity in 2011. about AI, he created Udacity in 2011. about AI, he created Udacity in 2011. And then since then he's also um led the And then since then he's also um led the And then since then he's also um led the Kittyhawk Corporation. They were Kittyhawk Corporation. They were Kittyhawk Corporation. They were building electric flying cars. Didn't building electric flying cars. Didn't building electric flying cars. Didn't ultimately end up working out, but ultimately end up working out, but ultimately end up working out, but that's another thing that he's been like that's another thing that he's been like that's another thing that he's been like super early to. We're now seeing these super early to. We're now seeing these super early to. We're now seeing these EV tool companies, you know, get off the EV tool companies, you know, get off the EV tool companies, you know, get off the ground. I just think this guy is super ground. I just think this guy is super ground. I just think this guy is super cool. Like he's been early to all of cool. Like he's been early to all of cool. Like he's been early to all of these trends and um is just like these trends and um is just like these trends and um is just like continuing to build even though he's continuing to build even though he's continuing to build even though he's already, you know, he was early to already, you know, he was early to already, you know, he was early to Whimo. He's rich and he's just Whimo. He's rich and he's just Whimo. He's rich and he's just continuing to dabble. continuing to dabble. continuing to dabble. >> This guy's prolific. Good find. There's >> This guy's prolific. Good find. There's >> This guy's prolific. Good find. There's a there's like a lineage I think of a there's like a lineage I think of a there's like a lineage I think of people under him like he had his initial people under him like he had his initial people under him like he had his initial lab maybe at Stanford or whatever and lab maybe at Stanford or whatever and lab maybe at Stanford or whatever and somebody who was doing self-driving was somebody who was doing self-driving was somebody who was doing self-driving was describing like you know basically all describing like you know basically all describing like you know basically all the modern self-driving kind of like the modern self-driving kind of like the modern self-driving kind of like leaders if you just trace their kind of leaders if you just trace their kind of leaders if you just trace their kind of lineage it's like he had six people or lineage it's like he had six people or lineage it's like he had six people or seven people under him it was that seven people under him it was that seven people under him it was that school of thought that sort of like school of thought that sort of like school of thought that sort of like branched out and created like all the branched out and created like all the branched out and created like all the different people in the industry today. different people in the industry today. different people in the industry today. Um, so he's he's very much like uh what Um, so he's he's very much like uh what Um, so he's he's very much like uh what was was a sort of grandfather or was was a sort of grandfather or was was a sort of grandfather or godfather to that to the industry. godfather to that to the industry. godfather to that to the industry. >> Yeah. He's also um he's got some range >> Yeah. He's also um he's got some range >> Yeah. He's also um he's got some range because like he created a uh you know because like he created a uh you know because like he created a uh you know these cars things which is like the most these cars things which is like the most these cars things which is like the most brilliant thing on earth but then also brilliant thing on earth but then also brilliant thing on earth but then also he has a course business and his it's he has a course business and his it's he has a course business and his it's that's I'm being silly a little bit but that's I'm being silly a little bit but that's I'm being silly a little bit but that's like not in my opinion in the that's like not in my opinion in the that's like not in my opinion in the same category of of of flying cars but same category of of of flying cars but same category of of of flying cars but it's Udacity to me is a very respectable it's Udacity to me is a very respectable it's Udacity to me is a very respectable like amazing thing and so it's pretty like amazing thing and so it's pretty like amazing thing and so it's pretty cool how much range she has. cool how much range she has. cool how much range she has. >> Yeah. So, all of us who create courses, >> Yeah. So, all of us who create courses, >> Yeah. So, all of us who create courses, we're just like these self-driving car we're just like these self-driving car we're just like these self-driving car guys, right? guys, right? guys, right? >> We have to do the other halfange. >> We have to do the other halfange. >> We have to do the other halfange. Usually range is [laughter] like wide. Usually range is [laughter] like wide. Usually range is [laughter] like wide. His is almost like up and down. His is almost like up and down. His is almost like up and down. >> Yeah. Our barbell doesn't have the >> Yeah. Our barbell doesn't have the >> Yeah. Our barbell doesn't have the weight on the other side yet, so it's a weight on the other side yet, so it's a weight on the other side yet, so it's a little awkward to hold. So, we little awkward to hold. So, we little awkward to hold. So, we definitely have to go and do that. But definitely have to go and do that. But definitely have to go and do that. But that's pretty cool, though. that's pretty cool, though. that's pretty cool, though. >> All right. Mine um came down to a coin >> All right. Mine um came down to a coin >> All right. Mine um came down to a coin flip between John Morgan and Jesse Cole. flip between John Morgan and Jesse Cole. flip between John Morgan and Jesse Cole. I went with Jesse Cole. So, uh, we did I went with Jesse Cole. So, uh, we did I went with Jesse Cole. So, uh, we did an episode with him on the podcast and I an episode with him on the podcast and I an episode with him on the podcast and I was incredibly inspired by this guy. So, was incredibly inspired by this guy. So, was incredibly inspired by this guy. So, he's done what I think is basically he's done what I think is basically he's done what I think is basically impossible. Um, if somebody had told me impossible. Um, if somebody had told me impossible. Um, if somebody had told me that like 10 years ago, like, hey, that like 10 years ago, like, hey, that like 10 years ago, like, hey, there's going to be somebody who is there's going to be somebody who is there's going to be somebody who is going to make a minor league baseball going to make a minor league baseball going to make a minor league baseball team have, you know, more followers on team have, you know, more followers on team have, you know, more followers on social media than the Yankees and by the social media than the Yankees and by the social media than the Yankees and by the way, and all other MLB teams combined. way, and all other MLB teams combined. way, and all other MLB teams combined. they're gonna have like a three million they're gonna have like a three million they're gonna have like a three million person wait list and be selling out person wait list and be selling out person wait list and be selling out 80,000 person stadiums and that he 80,000 person stadiums and that he 80,000 person stadiums and that he bootstrapped the business with his wife bootstrapped the business with his wife bootstrapped the business with his wife to you know 100 million plus. I just to you know 100 million plus. I just to you know 100 million plus. I just think that is like that is playing think that is like that is playing think that is like that is playing business on like such hard mode. That is business on like such hard mode. That is business on like such hard mode. That is like the equivalent if you're like the equivalent if you're like the equivalent if you're non-technical. That's the equivalent of non-technical. That's the equivalent of non-technical. That's the equivalent of Rockets that land themselves is to take Rockets that land themselves is to take Rockets that land themselves is to take a minor league baseball team that nobody a minor league baseball team that nobody a minor league baseball team that nobody gives a [ __ ] about in a league that gives a [ __ ] about in a league that gives a [ __ ] about in a league that nobody gives a [ __ ] about with players nobody gives a [ __ ] about with players nobody gives a [ __ ] about with players that nobody's ever heard of and turn it that nobody's ever heard of and turn it that nobody's ever heard of and turn it into this incredible entertainment into this incredible entertainment into this incredible entertainment thing. And the way he did it was just so thing. And the way he did it was just so thing. And the way he did it was just so like I don't know from the soul and like I don't know from the soul and like I don't know from the soul and passionate, right? Like there's a lot of passionate, right? Like there's a lot of passionate, right? Like there's a lot of creativity in in the in you know being creativity in in the in you know being creativity in in the in you know being basically a modern day like PT Barnum. basically a modern day like PT Barnum. basically a modern day like PT Barnum. There was a lot of just like passion and There was a lot of just like passion and There was a lot of just like passion and soul to like the hustle to do this like soul to like the hustle to do this like soul to like the hustle to do this like you know he's on the pod. He's written you know he's on the pod. He's written you know he's on the pod. He's written four books behind him. They do a show four books behind him. They do a show four books behind him. They do a show every weekend, you know, like they're every weekend, you know, like they're every weekend, you know, like they're traveling the world. He's just doing traveling the world. He's just doing traveling the world. He's just doing everything. And it's just like that, everything. And it's just like that, everything. And it's just like that, man. I would I would never ever ever be man. I would I would never ever ever be man. I would I would never ever ever be able to do something like that. And then able to do something like that. And then able to do something like that. And then the last thing was like I don't know, he the last thing was like I don't know, he the last thing was like I don't know, he was just a sweetheart when he was on the was just a sweetheart when he was on the was just a sweetheart when he was on the podcast. He's such a nice guy, so podcast. He's such a nice guy, so podcast. He's such a nice guy, so genuine. I think Sammy told me like they genuine. I think Sammy told me like they genuine. I think Sammy told me like they foster like kids as well. I was just foster like kids as well. I was just foster like kids as well. I was just like, geez, how good like how good is like, geez, how good like how good is like, geez, how good like how good is this human being? And I just feel like this human being? And I just feel like this human being? And I just feel like we are lucky that there's somebody as we are lucky that there's somebody as we are lucky that there's somebody as kind of creative and such a like force kind of creative and such a like force kind of creative and such a like force of creativity and um as this guy like of creativity and um as this guy like of creativity and um as this guy like walking the earth. I think I even told walking the earth. I think I even told walking the earth. I think I even told him that the pod like I'm glad you are him that the pod like I'm glad you are him that the pod like I'm glad you are walking the earth which I've never like walking the earth which I've never like walking the earth which I've never like felt the need to say to another man but felt the need to say to another man but felt the need to say to another man but I I did that day. I I did that day. I I did that day. >> We we used to joke and have this concept >> We we used to joke and have this concept >> We we used to joke and have this concept of like the total man and it was like of like the total man and it was like of like the total man and it was like what does it mean to be like a great what does it mean to be like a great what does it mean to be like a great man? and he is one of the maybe three man? and he is one of the maybe three man? and he is one of the maybe three people we've had in the podcast that I people we've had in the podcast that I people we've had in the podcast that I would go in that category where he's would go in that category where he's would go in that category where he's like I felt I was like you are you are a like I felt I was like you are you are a like I felt I was like you are you are a very special human being and you are the very special human being and you are the very special human being and you are the epitome of what it means to be a man. epitome of what it means to be a man. epitome of what it means to be a man. >> We should have just been like can you >> We should have just been like can you >> We should have just been like can you lift your shirt up if you've got a lift your shirt up if you've got a lift your shirt up if you've got a visible ab if you have visible abs you visible ab if you have visible abs you visible ab if you have visible abs you are in the club my friend like that's are in the club my friend like that's are in the club my friend like that's the only thing that we it's like the the only thing that we it's like the the only thing that we it's like the fitness side is the only other part of fitness side is the only other part of fitness side is the only other part of the total man franchise that that we the total man franchise that that we the total man franchise that that we don't know about him yet. I think that don't know about him yet. I think that don't know about him yet. I think that um you know we've talked about this um you know we've talked about this um you know we've talked about this podcast on living a rich life which podcast on living a rich life which podcast on living a rich life which means like there's business, there's means like there's business, there's means like there's business, there's family, there's there's having a good family, there's there's having a good family, there's there's having a good life, there's treating people life, there's treating people life, there's treating people wonderfully. I think that he is one of wonderfully. I think that he is one of wonderfully. I think that he is one of the richest people that we've ever had the richest people that we've ever had the richest people that we've ever had on the podcast in terms of a holistic on the podcast in terms of a holistic on the podcast in terms of a holistic rich life. He felt like a very special rich life. He felt like a very special rich life. He felt like a very special person. If you look through his person. If you look through his person. If you look through his Instagram, like he like pays tribute to Instagram, like he like pays tribute to Instagram, like he like pays tribute to his wife. He talks about his team. You his wife. He talks about his team. You his wife. He talks about his team. You see him like giving these inspirational see him like giving these inspirational see him like giving these inspirational talks to his to uh the players. I was talks to his to uh the players. I was talks to his to uh the players. I was just like this guy's got no flaws. It just like this guy's got no flaws. It just like this guy's got no flaws. It almost kind of intimidating. almost kind of intimidating. almost kind of intimidating. >> The the one little nugget that just kind >> The the one little nugget that just kind >> The the one little nugget that just kind of showed a lot was they um they don't of showed a lot was they um they don't of showed a lot was they um they don't charge they eat the sales tax on ticket charge they eat the sales tax on ticket charge they eat the sales tax on ticket prices. So they're like, "It's $25 for a prices. So they're like, "It's $25 for a prices. So they're like, "It's $25 for a ticket flat." And it's like, "Okay, so ticket flat." And it's like, "Okay, so ticket flat." And it's like, "Okay, so but you know, there's always tax plus but you know, there's always tax plus but you know, there's always tax plus tax." He's like, "No, no, no. We we we tax." He's like, "No, no, no. We we we tax." He's like, "No, no, no. We we we pay that. We eat you the cost of that." pay that. We eat you the cost of that." pay that. We eat you the cost of that." It's like at the scale that they operate It's like at the scale that they operate It's like at the scale that they operate at that's just millions and millions of at that's just millions and millions of at that's just millions and millions of a year just so that the average customer a year just so that the average customer a year just so that the average customer when they're checking out feels like when they're checking out feels like when they're checking out feels like they were kind of taken care of versus they were kind of taken care of versus they were kind of taken care of versus you know being stuck it at two and which you know being stuck it at two and which you know being stuck it at two and which is how you know ticket master and these is how you know ticket master and these is how you know ticket master and these these these other you know things live these these other you know things live these these other you know things live nation like you when you go buy from nation like you when you go buy from nation like you when you go buy from them you just feel like you're just them you just feel like you're just them you just feel like you're just being you know mugged basically at the being you know mugged basically at the being you know mugged basically at the checkout counter right it's like oh and checkout counter right it's like oh and checkout counter right it's like oh and then here's the service fee convenience then here's the service fee convenience then here's the service fee convenience fee parking fee and this fee and like fee parking fee and this fee and like fee parking fee and this fee and like it's now triple the cost and I just it's now triple the cost and I just it's now triple the cost and I just thought like that little nugget of like thought like that little nugget of like thought like that little nugget of like how they they don't just leave money on how they they don't just leave money on how they they don't just leave money on the table but they put money back on the the table but they put money back on the the table but they put money back on the table I thought tell told a lot about table I thought tell told a lot about table I thought tell told a lot about like you know actions versus words like you know actions versus words like you know actions versus words everybody says they're customer friendly everybody says they're customer friendly everybody says they're customer friendly who actually who actually does that very who actually who actually does that very who actually who actually does that very few people few people few people >> we made we talked to him we were like um >> we made we talked to him we were like um >> we made we talked to him we were like um he made a comment where he was like he made a comment where he was like he made a comment where he was like whatever you see that you've seen for whatever you see that you've seen for whatever you see that you've seen for predictions on how big our business is predictions on how big our business is predictions on how big our business is it's much bigger and so like I thought it's much bigger and so like I thought it's much bigger and so like I thought that was really cool too and he didn't that was really cool too and he didn't that was really cool too and he didn't even say it as a flex I think we like even say it as a flex I think we like even say it as a flex I think we like teased it out of him Yeah, teased it out of him Yeah, teased it out of him Yeah, >> but he didn't talk about numbers at all >> but he didn't talk about numbers at all >> but he didn't talk about numbers at all other than that one comment, and I other than that one comment, and I other than that one comment, and I thought that was really cool. thought that was really cool. thought that was really cool. >> Yeah, that was amazing. Um, all right. >> Yeah, that was amazing. Um, all right. >> Yeah, that was amazing. Um, all right. Next category we'll do is um we'll do Next category we'll do is um we'll do Next category we'll do is um we'll do the one we were about to do, which was the one we were about to do, which was the one we were about to do, which was uh what was it? Biggest personal uh what was it? Biggest personal uh what was it? Biggest personal >> coolest moment in life. >> coolest moment in life. >> coolest moment in life. >> Coolest moment. >> Coolest moment. >> Coolest moment. >> I've got one. I've got one. So Sean >> I've got one. I've got one. So Sean >> I've got one. I've got one. So Sean organizes this thing where we go to Mr. organizes this thing where we go to Mr. organizes this thing where we go to Mr. Beast's house and um or his town and we Beast's house and um or his town and we Beast's house and um or his town and we like tour his property and play like tour his property and play like tour his property and play basketball with a bunch of successful basketball with a bunch of successful basketball with a bunch of successful people. Last year he had someone that people. Last year he had someone that people. Last year he had someone that was like the 90th richest person in the was like the 90th richest person in the was like the 90th richest person in the world. He had all these powerful people. world. He had all these powerful people. world. He had all these powerful people. He had Mr. Beast and Mr. Beast was He had Mr. Beast and Mr. Beast was He had Mr. Beast and Mr. Beast was giving us a tour of his campus. It felt giving us a tour of his campus. It felt giving us a tour of his campus. It felt like a movie studio and all of these like a movie studio and all of these like a movie studio and all of these guys there were trying to kind of be guys there were trying to kind of be guys there were trying to kind of be cool a little bit in posture and not and cool a little bit in posture and not and cool a little bit in posture and not and like Mr. beast was was was saying the like Mr. beast was was was saying the like Mr. beast was was was saying the most ridiculous things that you could most ridiculous things that you could most ridiculous things that you could imagine. Like we have this guy living in imagine. Like we have this guy living in imagine. Like we have this guy living in this home for one whole year and he this home for one whole year and he this home for one whole year and he can't leave the home until he loses a can't leave the home until he loses a can't leave the home until he loses a 100 pounds and he's like I spent this 100 pounds and he's like I spent this 100 pounds and he's like I spent this much money on this studio and like we're much money on this studio and like we're much money on this studio and like we're doing this and he's just saying like doing this and he's just saying like doing this and he's just saying like ridiculous stuff and everyone was trying ridiculous stuff and everyone was trying ridiculous stuff and everyone was trying to be cool like yep that's what it takes to be cool like yep that's what it takes to be cool like yep that's what it takes to be the best. Totally get it. And to be the best. Totally get it. And to be the best. Totally get it. And Jessie Jesse Sler who was there was in Jessie Jesse Sler who was there was in Jessie Jesse Sler who was there was in the back and he was like this is the the back and he was like this is the the back and he was like this is the craziest thing. He's like why isn't craziest thing. He's like why isn't craziest thing. He's like why isn't anyone calling this guy out? This is the anyone calling this guy out? This is the anyone calling this guy out? This is the most ridiculous stuff I've ever seen. I most ridiculous stuff I've ever seen. I most ridiculous stuff I've ever seen. I can't believe this. How does one person can't believe this. How does one person can't believe this. How does one person live this way? This is just insane. And live this way? This is just insane. And live this way? This is just insane. And Jesse was like the most sane person Jesse was like the most sane person Jesse was like the most sane person there, which he wasn't like insulting there, which he wasn't like insulting there, which he wasn't like insulting Mr. Beast, but he was like he and he was Mr. Beast, but he was like he and he was Mr. Beast, but he was like he and he was like a very reasonable person. And um like a very reasonable person. And um like a very reasonable person. And um Jesse Ller, I think him and his family Jesse Ller, I think him and his family Jesse Ller, I think him and his family are billionaires or near billionaires are billionaires or near billionaires are billionaires or near billionaires and he's very successful. And we've met and he's very successful. And we've met and he's very successful. And we've met Sean a lot of people on the internet who Sean a lot of people on the internet who Sean a lot of people on the internet who appear a certain way. We've met him in appear a certain way. We've met him in appear a certain way. We've met him in real life and there's some oftentimes real life and there's some oftentimes real life and there's some oftentimes there's a gap or if you do meet them in there's a gap or if you do meet them in there's a gap or if you do meet them in real life, you think I don't want to be real life, you think I don't want to be real life, you think I don't want to be like you. Jesse, it was one of the like you. Jesse, it was one of the like you. Jesse, it was one of the coolest moments of my life to meet that coolest moments of my life to meet that coolest moments of my life to meet that guy because he was exact. He was better guy because he was exact. He was better guy because he was exact. He was better than he appears on the internet and he than he appears on the internet and he than he appears on the internet and he was very inspirational to me. I I felt was very inspirational to me. I I felt was very inspirational to me. I I felt um you are someone I aspired to be very um you are someone I aspired to be very um you are someone I aspired to be very similar to and he was like when he was similar to and he was like when he was similar to and he was like when he was there there there >> I totally agree but I don't think you >> I totally agree but I don't think you >> I totally agree but I don't think you did it justice of like he wasn't saying did it justice of like he wasn't saying did it justice of like he wasn't saying like this is bad what Jimmy is doing like this is bad what Jimmy is doing like this is bad what Jimmy is doing what like say the thing again about what what like say the thing again about what what like say the thing again about what actually stood out cuz I don't think actually stood out cuz I don't think actually stood out cuz I don't think >> no he wasn't saying it bad he was like >> no he wasn't saying it bad he was like >> no he wasn't saying it bad he was like he he was like in awe and he was like he he was like in awe and he was like he he was like in awe and he was like can we acknowledge that this is just can we acknowledge that this is just can we acknowledge that this is just insane and ridiculous it's cool but it's insane and ridiculous it's cool but it's insane and ridiculous it's cool but it's just like this is insane and then like just like this is insane and then like just like this is insane and then like there was a funny thing where Mr. Vast there was a funny thing where Mr. Vast there was a funny thing where Mr. Vast like he parks his car like in front of like he parks his car like in front of like he parks his car like in front of the entrance of the of the building. the entrance of the of the building. the entrance of the of the building. Like he drives his car over the parking Like he drives his car over the parking Like he drives his car over the parking lot [laughter] and Jesse made fun of lot [laughter] and Jesse made fun of lot [laughter] and Jesse made fun of him. He's like, "Dude, there's an open him. He's like, "Dude, there's an open him. He's like, "Dude, there's an open spot right there. What are you doing?" spot right there. What are you doing?" spot right there. What are you doing?" And I just thought it was funny that he And I just thought it was funny that he And I just thought it was funny that he was like a teasing him and b the was like a teasing him and b the was like a teasing him and b the >> get swept up in it like the rest of us. >> get swept up in it like the rest of us. >> get swept up in it like the rest of us. >> No. No. And it was so funny. And we were >> No. No. And it was so funny. And we were >> No. No. And it was so funny. And we were talking about some ridiculous stuff. talking about some ridiculous stuff. talking about some ridiculous stuff. Like we had a billionaire there who was Like we had a billionaire there who was Like we had a billionaire there who was talking about how aliens are real and he talking about how aliens are real and he talking about how aliens are real and he knows this because he hangs out with knows this because he hangs out with knows this because he hangs out with like White House people. Like it was like White House people. Like it was like White House people. Like it was like pretty funny stuff. Did you see like pretty funny stuff. Did you see like pretty funny stuff. Did you see that new documentary by the way about that new documentary by the way about that new documentary by the way about that topic? I've that topic? I've that topic? I've >> been wanting to watch this. Yeah, >> been wanting to watch this. Yeah, >> been wanting to watch this. Yeah, there's like a there's like a there's like a there's like a there's like a there's like a documentary. What is it called? Do you documentary. What is it called? Do you documentary. What is it called? Do you remember the name? Is remember the name? Is remember the name? Is >> uh let me pull it up. >> uh let me pull it up. >> uh let me pull it up. >> When we were there, it was it was um I I >> When we were there, it was it was um I I >> When we were there, it was it was um I I don't know if I won't say who it was, don't know if I won't say who it was, don't know if I won't say who it was, but it was a very powerful person who but it was a very powerful person who but it was a very powerful person who goes, "Tomorrow you're going to see a goes, "Tomorrow you're going to see a goes, "Tomorrow you're going to see a news story about aliens. I know all news story about aliens. I know all news story about aliens. I know all about it and they're real." Like he was about it and they're real." Like he was about it and they're real." Like he was talking about it. talking about it. talking about it. >> Yeah. It's called The Age of Disclosure. >> Yeah. It's called The Age of Disclosure. >> Yeah. It's called The Age of Disclosure. I watched it. I watched it. I watched it. >> Color me. Not fully convinced, but you >> Color me. Not fully convinced, but you >> Color me. Not fully convinced, but you know, you should watch it. know, you should watch it. know, you should watch it. >> Partially convinced. >> Partially convinced. >> Partially convinced. >> Did you uh agree that Jesse was just the >> Did you uh agree that Jesse was just the >> Did you uh agree that Jesse was just the man? man? man? >> Yeah. So, so my coolest moments also at >> Yeah. So, so my coolest moments also at >> Yeah. So, so my coolest moments also at Jesse. We didn't plan this, but Sam, I Jesse. We didn't plan this, but Sam, I Jesse. We didn't plan this, but Sam, I don't know. I was at his house don't know. I was at his house don't know. I was at his house yesterday. I flew to his house. I spent yesterday. I flew to his house. I spent yesterday. I flew to his house. I spent that I spent all yesterday with him. Um, that I spent all yesterday with him. Um, that I spent all yesterday with him. Um, and my coolest moment uh has to do with and my coolest moment uh has to do with and my coolest moment uh has to do with that. So, that. So, that. So, >> what were you doing with him recording a >> what were you doing with him recording a >> what were you doing with him recording a podcast? podcast? podcast? >> Sam's Sam's jealous. You just Sam's >> Sam's Sam's jealous. You just Sam's >> Sam's Sam's jealous. You just Sam's coolest moment was meeting the guy and coolest moment was meeting the guy and coolest moment was meeting the guy and you just dunked on him being like I hung you just dunked on him being like I hung you just dunked on him being like I hung out with him yesterday. out with him yesterday. out with him yesterday. >> Well, he did a he did a talk in >> Well, he did a he did a talk in >> Well, he did a he did a talk in Manhattan just the other day, but I Manhattan just the other day, but I Manhattan just the other day, but I already had plans so I didn't even get already had plans so I didn't even get already had plans so I didn't even get to go. So, it just shows how much I to go. So, it just shows how much I to go. So, it just shows how much I really care. But no, he [laughter] was really care. But no, he [laughter] was really care. But no, he [laughter] was >> so uh so I just flew his house and so uh >> so uh so I just flew his house and so uh >> so uh so I just flew his house and so uh so the coolest moment of the year. Uh so the coolest moment of the year. Uh so the coolest moment of the year. Uh all right. So last year, this time last all right. So last year, this time last all right. So last year, this time last year, Jesse came on the podcast and he year, Jesse came on the podcast and he year, Jesse came on the podcast and he explained his New Year's planning uh explained his New Year's planning uh explained his New Year's planning uh process and philosophy, how he attacks process and philosophy, how he attacks process and philosophy, how he attacks the new year. And Sam, I don't know if the new year. And Sam, I don't know if the new year. And Sam, I don't know if you remember, but you know, we were both you remember, but you know, we were both you remember, but you know, we were both pretty inspired by it. And one of his pretty inspired by it. And one of his pretty inspired by it. And one of his core concept is this concept of a core concept is this concept of a core concept is this concept of a misoge. So he says, you know, the years misoge. So he says, you know, the years misoge. So he says, you know, the years fly by. You know, if you ask me right fly by. You know, if you ask me right fly by. You know, if you ask me right now, what did you do in 2018? I I don't now, what did you do in 2018? I I don't now, what did you do in 2018? I I don't know. I'd have to really think how old know. I'd have to really think how old know. I'd have to really think how old was I, where was I living, what was I was I, where was I living, what was I was I, where was I living, what was I doing. Whereas what he does is he picks doing. Whereas what he does is he picks doing. Whereas what he does is he picks a misogi which is a Japanese ritual of a a misogi which is a Japanese ritual of a a misogi which is a Japanese ritual of a a challenge a hard year definfining a challenge a hard year definfining a challenge a hard year definfining thing. So you'll always remember oh that thing. So you'll always remember oh that thing. So you'll always remember oh that was the year I hiked you know this I was the year I hiked you know this I was the year I hiked you know this I hiked averse that was the year I did my hiked averse that was the year I did my hiked averse that was the year I did my first Iron Man that was the year I did first Iron Man that was the year I did first Iron Man that was the year I did XYZ and he could tell you 2015 2016 you XYZ and he could tell you 2015 2016 you XYZ and he could tell you 2015 2016 you know 2015 that's the year that David know 2015 that's the year that David know 2015 that's the year that David Gogggins lived in my house and I trained Gogggins lived in my house and I trained Gogggins lived in my house and I trained with Gogggins 2016 that was the year I with Gogggins 2016 that was the year I with Gogggins 2016 that was the year I live with the monks 2017 that was the live with the monks 2017 that was the live with the monks 2017 that was the year I did my first whatever. And so year I did my first whatever. And so year I did my first whatever. And so after the pod, I was trying to I was after the pod, I was trying to I was after the pod, I was trying to I was like pretty inspired. I was like, what like pretty inspired. I was like, what like pretty inspired. I was like, what am I gonna do? And um you know, Jesse's am I gonna do? And um you know, Jesse's am I gonna do? And um you know, Jesse's really adventurous. He's big into these really adventurous. He's big into these really adventurous. He's big into these like endurance races. That's never like endurance races. That's never like endurance races. That's never something I've been like drawn to. So I something I've been like drawn to. So I something I've been like drawn to. So I had the I had the will, but I didn't had the I had the will, but I didn't had the I had the will, but I didn't have the idea. And that night, I'm uh have the idea. And that night, I'm uh have the idea. And that night, I'm uh before I went to bed, I was watching I before I went to bed, I was watching I before I went to bed, I was watching I was on YouTube and I saw this was on YouTube and I saw this was on YouTube and I saw this recommended video of this I don't even recommended video of this I don't even recommended video of this I don't even know why I clicked it. It was like this know why I clicked it. It was like this know why I clicked it. It was like this dude playing the piano. And it was this dude playing the piano. And it was this dude playing the piano. And it was this uh guy who's he's this Italian composer. uh guy who's he's this Italian composer. uh guy who's he's this Italian composer. He's basically the most famous piano He's basically the most famous piano He's basically the most famous piano player in the world at this point. Um player in the world at this point. Um player in the world at this point. Um he's like a modern-day composer. And he he's like a modern-day composer. And he he's like a modern-day composer. And he was playing this song and he was playing was playing this song and he was playing was playing this song and he was playing a performance he did at the Steve Jobs a performance he did at the Steve Jobs a performance he did at the Steve Jobs Theater, which is like 10 minutes away Theater, which is like 10 minutes away Theater, which is like 10 minutes away from where I was. I was at my sister's from where I was. I was at my sister's from where I was. I was at my sister's house, 10 minutes away from her house house, 10 minutes away from her house house, 10 minutes away from her house where I was that night. And I saw it and where I was that night. And I saw it and where I was that night. And I saw it and I was like, "What if I did this this I was like, "What if I did this this I was like, "What if I did this this year?" Like, forget business. forget. I year?" Like, forget business. forget. I year?" Like, forget business. forget. I was like, what if I what if this was the was like, what if I what if this was the was like, what if I what if this was the year I learned, you know, I can't dance. year I learned, you know, I can't dance. year I learned, you know, I can't dance. I can't sing. I've never played a I can't sing. I've never played a I can't sing. I've never played a musical instrument. Like, I don't have musical instrument. Like, I don't have musical instrument. Like, I don't have that innate talent, but like, what if that innate talent, but like, what if that innate talent, but like, what if this was what if that's a thing I picked this was what if that's a thing I picked this was what if that's a thing I picked up? What if I could just jam out on the up? What if I could just jam out on the up? What if I could just jam out on the piano specifically? What if I could play piano specifically? What if I could play piano specifically? What if I could play this song? And so, as you know, Sam, this song? And so, as you know, Sam, this song? And so, as you know, Sam, I've been practicing all year and I've I've been practicing all year and I've I've been practicing all year and I've >> I love the Instagram stuff. >> I love the Instagram stuff. >> I love the Instagram stuff. >> I've been learning to play. And uh but >> I've been learning to play. And uh but >> I've been learning to play. And uh but you know the one thing I didn't do was you know the one thing I didn't do was you know the one thing I didn't do was like he the way Jesse's philosophy is is like he the way Jesse's philosophy is is like he the way Jesse's philosophy is is that that you when you decide you're that that you when you decide you're that that you when you decide you're going to do something you don't just going to do something you don't just going to do something you don't just make it a wish or like a goal. You plan make it a wish or like a goal. You plan make it a wish or like a goal. You plan a date. It's like I'm going to run this a date. It's like I'm going to run this a date. It's like I'm going to run this race on this day. I'm going to take my race on this day. I'm going to take my race on this day. I'm going to take my kids here on this day. It's on the kids here on this day. It's on the kids here on this day. It's on the calendar. It's a thing I'm working calendar. It's a thing I'm working calendar. It's a thing I'm working towards. So that was the one part I towards. So that was the one part I towards. So that was the one part I never did. I was like I don't know what never did. I was like I don't know what never did. I was like I don't know what am I going to do? A piano recital? Like am I going to do? A piano recital? Like am I going to do? A piano recital? Like I'm not like seven years old. I don't I'm not like seven years old. I don't I'm not like seven years old. I don't know what to do. So yesterday I'm at his know what to do. So yesterday I'm at his know what to do. So yesterday I'm at his house and he's giving us a tour and I'm house and he's giving us a tour and I'm house and he's giving us a tour and I'm there to do a podcast with him. the the there to do a podcast with him. the the there to do a podcast with him. the the another annual planning thing and he's another annual planning thing and he's another annual planning thing and he's we're walking by. He's like, "Oh, this we're walking by. He's like, "Oh, this we're walking by. He's like, "Oh, this is my favorite thing in the house. This is my favorite thing in the house. This is my favorite thing in the house. This is a piano my mother gave me before she is a piano my mother gave me before she is a piano my mother gave me before she died." And I was like, "Do you play?" died." And I was like, "Do you play?" died." And I was like, "Do you play?" He's like, "No, I've never nobody's ever He's like, "No, I've never nobody's ever He's like, "No, I've never nobody's ever played this piano. Like, you know, since played this piano. Like, you know, since played this piano. Like, you know, since we got it. It's just it's here, but I we got it. It's just it's here, but I we got it. It's just it's here, but I love it." And I'm like, in my head, I'm love it." And I'm like, in my head, I'm love it." And I'm like, in my head, I'm like, "Oh, this might be the perfect like, "Oh, this might be the perfect like, "Oh, this might be the perfect thing." Like, that was my misoge last thing." Like, that was my misoge last thing." Like, that was my misoge last year when we did our annual planning. year when we did our annual planning. year when we did our annual planning. We're doing it this year. He doesn't We're doing it this year. He doesn't We're doing it this year. He doesn't know that. He kind of triggered me to know that. He kind of triggered me to know that. He kind of triggered me to actually like go do something. So, I was actually like go do something. So, I was actually like go do something. So, I was like, "I'm going to do this." So, when like, "I'm going to do this." So, when like, "I'm going to do this." So, when we were talking about it, I go, "Can I we were talking about it, I go, "Can I we were talking about it, I go, "Can I show you mine?" by my mogi and he's show you mine?" by my mogi and he's show you mine?" by my mogi and he's like, "Well, what what do you mean?" I like, "Well, what what do you mean?" I like, "Well, what what do you mean?" I was like, "Let's walk over here." And so was like, "Let's walk over here." And so was like, "Let's walk over here." And so we go and I play this song now. we go and I play this song now. we go and I play this song now. I uh I'm playing this song. I uh I'm playing this song. I uh I'm playing this song. >> No, no, it's not a singing thing. It's >> No, no, it's not a singing thing. It's >> No, no, it's not a singing thing. It's just a It's just a piano song. I'm just a It's just a piano song. I'm just a It's just a piano song. I'm playing this song and just the context playing this song and just the context playing this song and just the context here is like I've been playing this here is like I've been playing this here is like I've been playing this every day in my house. I play upstairs every day in my house. I play upstairs every day in my house. I play upstairs in my room and honestly like nobody in my room and honestly like nobody in my room and honestly like nobody particularly gives a [ __ ] Like my wife particularly gives a [ __ ] Like my wife particularly gives a [ __ ] Like my wife is like, "Good for you, but can you come is like, "Good for you, but can you come is like, "Good for you, but can you come help with dinner?" like you know like help with dinner?" like you know like help with dinner?" like you know like you know she's like in the middle of you know she's like in the middle of you know she's like in the middle of three little kids like you know I'm it's three little kids like you know I'm it's three little kids like you know I'm it's not like I'm getting a pat on the back not like I'm getting a pat on the back not like I'm getting a pat on the back for this thing. My kids don't really for this thing. My kids don't really for this thing. My kids don't really care about classical piano music. My care about classical piano music. My care about classical piano music. My wife doesn't really care. I have never wife doesn't really care. I have never wife doesn't really care. I have never really played for anybody else. And so really played for anybody else. And so really played for anybody else. And so uh this is my first time ever playing uh this is my first time ever playing uh this is my first time ever playing for anybody and I turned when I was done for anybody and I turned when I was done for anybody and I turned when I was done and it was like the craziest thing. So and it was like the craziest thing. So and it was like the craziest thing. So Jesse's there, he's crying. His head of Jesse's there, he's crying. His head of Jesse's there, he's crying. His head of strategy there, she's crying holding the strategy there, she's crying holding the strategy there, she's crying holding the phone. Sarah, his wife, who I had never phone. Sarah, his wife, who I had never phone. Sarah, his wife, who I had never met. She's the founder of Spanx, had met. She's the founder of Spanx, had met. She's the founder of Spanx, had come downstairs because she heard come downstairs because she heard come downstairs because she heard somebody playing the piano. She's she's somebody playing the piano. She's she's somebody playing the piano. She's she's like weeping. We have this it's gonna be like weeping. We have this it's gonna be like weeping. We have this it's gonna be crazy. It's all on camera, too. I happen crazy. It's all on camera, too. I happen crazy. It's all on camera, too. I happen to have a camera guy there because to have a camera guy there because to have a camera guy there because recording the podcast. So, basically, recording the podcast. So, basically, recording the podcast. So, basically, like there's this full circle moment of like there's this full circle moment of like there's this full circle moment of last year, he planted the seed. I worked last year, he planted the seed. I worked last year, he planted the seed. I worked hard on it all year. No, there was no hard on it all year. No, there was no hard on it all year. No, there was no real like payoff for it. There's no like real like payoff for it. There's no like real like payoff for it. There's no like purpose for doing. I just wanted to do purpose for doing. I just wanted to do purpose for doing. I just wanted to do it. And then there was like this amazing it. And then there was like this amazing it. And then there was like this amazing payoff moment where they actually gave a payoff moment where they actually gave a payoff moment where they actually gave a [ __ ] about like what I was doing and [ __ ] about like what I was doing and [ __ ] about like what I was doing and they like appreciated. They were like they like appreciated. They were like they like appreciated. They were like that was amazing. And um I had never that was amazing. And um I had never that was amazing. And um I had never felt that like ever. And so it was for felt that like ever. And so it was for felt that like ever. And so it was for me it was not only the coolest moment, me it was not only the coolest moment, me it was not only the coolest moment, it's one of the coolest moments of my it's one of the coolest moments of my it's one of the coolest moments of my life if I'm being perfectly honest. I'm life if I'm being perfectly honest. I'm life if I'm being perfectly honest. I'm a little embarrassed to say it, but it a little embarrassed to say it, but it a little embarrassed to say it, but it really was this like incredible really was this like incredible really was this like incredible like high this and it was totally like high this and it was totally like high this and it was totally serendipitous. I didn't plan for any of serendipitous. I didn't plan for any of serendipitous. I didn't plan for any of that to happen. that to happen. that to happen. It's this um song called I don't even It's this um song called I don't even It's this um song called I don't even know how you say it properly. It's like know how you say it properly. It's like know how you say it properly. It's like Italian, but it's Nuvo Italian, but it's Nuvo Italian, but it's Nuvo Bian. I don't know. I don't know how you Bian. I don't know. I don't know how you Bian. I don't know. I don't know how you spell the pronounce the second word, but spell the pronounce the second word, but spell the pronounce the second word, but I I'll put it in the description or I I'll put it in the description or I I'll put it in the description or whatever. whatever. whatever. >> That's awesome. >> That's awesome. >> That's awesome. >> It's a great song. And I was like this. >> It's a great song. And I was like this. >> It's a great song. And I was like this. I was like, I don't know what's I was like, I don't know what's I was like, I don't know what's happening. I don't know why everyone's happening. I don't know why everyone's happening. I don't know why everyone's crying. I don't know what's going on, crying. I don't know what's going on, crying. I don't know what's going on, but like I feel like my parking pass but like I feel like my parking pass but like I feel like my parking pass just got extremely validated just now. just got extremely validated just now. just got extremely validated just now. Thank you guys for that. [laughter] Thank you guys for that. [laughter] Thank you guys for that. [laughter] >> That is so cool. >> That is so cool. >> That is so cool. >> What did they say afterwards? >> What did they say afterwards? >> What did they say afterwards? Dude, he couldn't even continue the pod Dude, he couldn't even continue the pod Dude, he couldn't even continue the pod for like 20. He's like, "Dude, I'm blown for like 20. He's like, "Dude, I'm blown for like 20. He's like, "Dude, I'm blown away." He's like, "I He's like, I I need away." He's like, "I He's like, I I need away." He's like, "I He's like, I I need like a minute." And he's like, he was like a minute." And he's like, he was like a minute." And he's like, he was like, "That is so cool." He's like, "You like, "That is so cool." He's like, "You like, "That is so cool." He's like, "You know, you're 37 years old. You pick up know, you're 37 years old. You pick up know, you're 37 years old. You pick up an instrument. Like, you can do that in an instrument. Like, you can do that in an instrument. Like, you can do that in a year." He's like, "If you could do a year." He's like, "If you could do a year." He's like, "If you could do that." And his son had come down to that." And his son had come down to that." And his son had come down to listen while we were doing it. And um listen while we were doing it. And um listen while we were doing it. And um he's like I'm just so happy my son saw he's like I'm just so happy my son saw he's like I'm just so happy my son saw and heard that because I hope it planted and heard that because I hope it planted and heard that because I hope it planted a seed with him of like yo you can if he a seed with him of like yo you can if he a seed with him of like yo you can if he can do that in in 11 months or whatever can do that in in 11 months or whatever can do that in in 11 months or whatever like dude you could do anything like like dude you could do anything like like dude you could do anything like anything is on the table for you and he anything is on the table for you and he anything is on the table for you and he was just like very inspired by it and I was just like very inspired by it and I was just like very inspired by it and I was like here's a guy who I admire like was like here's a guy who I admire like was like here's a guy who I admire like you and I have both talked about this you and I have both talked about this you and I have both talked about this like he's our kind of like like he's our kind of like like he's our kind of like entrepreneurial north star like a guy entrepreneurial north star like a guy entrepreneurial north star like a guy who lives a a life well-lived all around who lives a a life well-lived all around who lives a a life well-lived all around you know four kids beautiful you know four kids beautiful you know four kids beautiful relationship with his wife, does all relationship with his wife, does all relationship with his wife, does all these adventurous trips with his these adventurous trips with his these adventurous trips with his friends. He's in great shape. He runs friends. He's in great shape. He runs friends. He's in great shape. He runs 100 mile marathons. He's had incredible 100 mile marathons. He's had incredible 100 mile marathons. He's had incredible business success. He's a great, you business success. He's a great, you business success. He's a great, you know, content creator. You know, he's know, content creator. You know, he's know, content creator. You know, he's just a prolific guy. You know, he's just a prolific guy. You know, he's just a prolific guy. You know, he's built brands like Ziko Coconut Water and built brands like Ziko Coconut Water and built brands like Ziko Coconut Water and sold a company to Warren Buffett. It's sold a company to Warren Buffett. It's sold a company to Warren Buffett. It's like, what more do you want out of life, like, what more do you want out of life, like, what more do you want out of life, right? Like, this guy's done, he's right? Like, this guy's done, he's right? Like, this guy's done, he's played a game in a way that I would love played a game in a way that I would love played a game in a way that I would love to play a game, the game of life. Um, to play a game, the game of life. Um, to play a game, the game of life. Um, and so to kind of get like that moment and so to kind of get like that moment and so to kind of get like that moment with somebody who I kind of admire, that with somebody who I kind of admire, that with somebody who I kind of admire, that was that was definitely my coolest was that was definitely my coolest was that was definitely my coolest moment of the year. That's really great. moment of the year. That's really great. moment of the year. That's really great. That's That's That's >> Sean, I gotta say I when I first saw >> Sean, I gotta say I when I first saw >> Sean, I gotta say I when I first saw that you were learning piano, I thought that you were learning piano, I thought that you were learning piano, I thought that was the coolest thing I had ever that was the coolest thing I had ever that was the coolest thing I had ever heard about you. So, I think there's heard about you. So, I think there's heard about you. So, I think there's something no genuinely like that's not something no genuinely like that's not something no genuinely like that's not to dismiss any of the other stuff, but I to dismiss any of the other stuff, but I to dismiss any of the other stuff, but I was just like, you know, when you're a was just like, you know, when you're a was just like, you know, when you're a creator online, as we talked about creator online, as we talked about creator online, as we talked about earlier, people make these assumptions earlier, people make these assumptions earlier, people make these assumptions about you. They kind of sometimes about you. They kind of sometimes about you. They kind of sometimes dictate what is in your orbit. And for dictate what is in your orbit. And for dictate what is in your orbit. And for you to be like, "No, no, no. this is you to be like, "No, no, no. this is you to be like, "No, no, no. this is this is something I want to learn. I this is something I want to learn. I this is something I want to learn. I might not even be sure exactly why, but might not even be sure exactly why, but might not even be sure exactly why, but I'm going to go do it. It's not what I'm going to go do it. It's not what I'm going to go do it. It's not what people expect. Um, and then to do what people expect. Um, and then to do what people expect. Um, and then to do what you just did. Like I I actually think you just did. Like I I actually think you just did. Like I I actually think that is so cool. that is so cool. that is so cool. >> Yeah. I commented on this podcast. I was >> Yeah. I commented on this podcast. I was >> Yeah. I commented on this podcast. I was like, you know, all this business stuff like, you know, all this business stuff like, you know, all this business stuff is great, but the piano thing, it's for is great, but the piano thing, it's for is great, but the piano thing, it's for some reason oddly inspiring. some reason oddly inspiring. some reason oddly inspiring. >> Well, the funny thing is like in the >> Well, the funny thing is like in the >> Well, the funny thing is like in the moment it never feels that way, right? moment it never feels that way, right? moment it never feels that way, right? Cuz like I'm walking out of my piano Cuz like I'm walking out of my piano Cuz like I'm walking out of my piano teacher's class, there's only it's like, teacher's class, there's only it's like, teacher's class, there's only it's like, "All right, Brandon, good luck, buddy." "All right, Brandon, good luck, buddy." "All right, Brandon, good luck, buddy." you know, there's only seven-year-olds you know, there's only seven-year-olds you know, there's only seven-year-olds there. You know, their parents are there. You know, their parents are there. You know, their parents are there. They're looking around like, there. They're looking around like, there. They're looking around like, "Where's your kid?" I'm like, "No, no, "Where's your kid?" I'm like, "No, no, "Where's your kid?" I'm like, "No, no, it was me. Like, I was the one getting it was me. Like, I was the one getting it was me. Like, I was the one getting the lesson, the piano lesson." And it the lesson, the piano lesson." And it the lesson, the piano lesson." And it was just like kind of an odd thing to be was just like kind of an odd thing to be was just like kind of an odd thing to be doing, you know, pretty regularly. But, doing, you know, pretty regularly. But, doing, you know, pretty regularly. But, you know, again, trusted my gut, went you know, again, trusted my gut, went you know, again, trusted my gut, went with it. Just like leaned into it. You with it. Just like leaned into it. You with it. Just like leaned into it. You know, it's like, "All right, I'm having know, it's like, "All right, I'm having know, it's like, "All right, I'm having fun. So, what I'm not forcing myself to fun. So, what I'm not forcing myself to fun. So, what I'm not forcing myself to do something I don't want to do. Why do something I don't want to do. Why do something I don't want to do. Why does everything have to be like with an does everything have to be like with an does everything have to be like with an agenda?" And um, you know, this kind of agenda?" And um, you know, this kind of agenda?" And um, you know, this kind of like validated like, "Yeah, just keep like validated like, "Yeah, just keep like validated like, "Yeah, just keep doing that. Good things do happen when doing that. Good things do happen when doing that. Good things do happen when you as you keep doing that. Don't you as you keep doing that. Don't you as you keep doing that. Don't worry." like you'll also get the rewards worry." like you'll also get the rewards worry." like you'll also get the rewards you you seek in life even when you're you you seek in life even when you're you you seek in life even when you're doing the stuff that seems like it has, doing the stuff that seems like it has, doing the stuff that seems like it has, you know, no rewards. You're just doing you know, no rewards. You're just doing you know, no rewards. You're just doing it because you like it. it because you like it. it because you like it. >> Next podcast, I want to know all all of >> Next podcast, I want to know all all of >> Next podcast, I want to know all all of what it was about hanging out with him. what it was about hanging out with him. what it was about hanging out with him. >> Yeah, we we'll do. >> Yeah, we we'll do. >> Yeah, we we'll do. >> What about you, Steph? >> What about you, Steph? >> What about you, Steph? >> By the way, there's a bunch of people in >> By the way, there's a bunch of people in >> By the way, there's a bunch of people in the chat who don't think we're live. the chat who don't think we're live. the chat who don't think we're live. We're live for sure. So, keep keep We're live for sure. So, keep keep We're live for sure. So, keep keep posting your messages. But, um my posting your messages. But, um my posting your messages. But, um my coolest moment, I was in between two I coolest moment, I was in between two I coolest moment, I was in between two I did a big trip to Africa. And if you did a big trip to Africa. And if you did a big trip to Africa. And if you haven't done gorilla trekking, it is one haven't done gorilla trekking, it is one haven't done gorilla trekking, it is one of the most incredible things I've ever of the most incredible things I've ever of the most incredible things I've ever done. done. done. >> Gorilla trekking. What did you say? >> Gorilla trekking. What did you say? >> Gorilla trekking. What did you say? >> Trekking. Yes. Yeah. Trekking. Tracking. >> Trekking. Yes. Yeah. Trekking. Tracking. >> Trekking. Yes. Yeah. Trekking. Tracking. You do both. Basically, they're You do both. Basically, they're You do both. Basically, they're >> tracking down a gorilla or you doing >> tracking down a gorilla or you doing >> tracking down a gorilla or you doing something? What? You're something? What? You're something? What? You're >> families of gorillas that live. We did >> families of gorillas that live. We did >> families of gorillas that live. We did it in Rwanda. They have it in Uganda. it in Rwanda. They have it in Uganda. it in Rwanda. They have it in Uganda. Not many countries other than that. And Not many countries other than that. And Not many countries other than that. And um they're wild. So every night, what um they're wild. So every night, what um they're wild. So every night, what does that say? does that say? does that say? >> This was the date. We are live. There's >> This was the date. We are live. There's >> This was the date. We are live. There's people in the chat who think this is uh people in the chat who think this is uh people in the chat who think this is uh fake. fake. fake. >> Yeah. Um so yeah, they live in the wild >> Yeah. Um so yeah, they live in the wild >> Yeah. Um so yeah, they live in the wild and they move every night. So they have and they move every night. So they have and they move every night. So they have these trackers who go out every day and these trackers who go out every day and these trackers who go out every day and try to locate them and then you trek try to locate them and then you trek try to locate them and then you trek through the rainforest truly like you're through the rainforest truly like you're through the rainforest truly like you're there's mud up to your knees um at there's mud up to your knees um at there's mud up to your knees um at points and try to find them. points and try to find them. points and try to find them. >> Which which place? >> Which which place? >> Which which place? >> In Rwanda. Um >> In Rwanda. Um >> In Rwanda. Um >> but super cool experience. But my actual >> but super cool experience. But my actual >> but super cool experience. But my actual answer is going to see the World Series answer is going to see the World Series answer is going to see the World Series with my dad. He's been a Blue Jays fan with my dad. He's been a Blue Jays fan with my dad. He's been a Blue Jays fan since I before I was born. Um the last since I before I was born. Um the last since I before I was born. Um the last time they won the World Series was in time they won the World Series was in time they won the World Series was in 93. They had a double year 92 93 and 93. They had a double year 92 93 and 93. They had a double year 92 93 and then I was born and ruined it all. And then I was born and ruined it all. And then I was born and ruined it all. And so he he kind of makes fun of me for so he he kind of makes fun of me for so he he kind of makes fun of me for that every year and is like also the that every year and is like also the that every year and is like also the person who goes and it's like is their person who goes and it's like is their person who goes and it's like is their year is their year. They made these year is their year. They made these year is their year. They made these trades, watches every game, you know, trades, watches every game, you know, trades, watches every game, you know, 160 plus. And he's also where I get 160 plus. And he's also where I get 160 plus. And he's also where I get every ounce of my cheapness from. And so every ounce of my cheapness from. And so every ounce of my cheapness from. And so he would never ever buy tickets for he would never ever buy tickets for he would never ever buy tickets for himself. And so um yeah, heard, you himself. And so um yeah, heard, you himself. And so um yeah, heard, you know, once they hit the World Series, I know, once they hit the World Series, I know, once they hit the World Series, I flew home, bought him tickets for game flew home, bought him tickets for game flew home, bought him tickets for game six when they had their first chance to six when they had their first chance to six when they had their first chance to win, win, win, >> didn't win. Then yoloed it for game >> didn't win. Then yoloed it for game >> didn't win. Then yoloed it for game seven. Totally worth it. Like can't seven. Totally worth it. Like can't seven. Totally worth it. Like can't really think of a better way. really think of a better way. really think of a better way. >> Oh, you did two in a row. That's >> Oh, you did two in a row. That's >> Oh, you did two in a row. That's awesome. awesome. awesome. >> Yeah. I mean, I wish they had won either >> Yeah. I mean, I wish they had won either >> Yeah. I mean, I wish they had won either of them because they lost. But, um, of them because they lost. But, um, of them because they lost. But, um, yeah, yeah, yeah, >> that's amazing. That's a That's a That's >> that's amazing. That's a That's a That's >> that's amazing. That's a That's a That's a great thing to do. That's a really a great thing to do. That's a really a great thing to do. That's a really great thing to do. I could see why all great thing to do. I could see why all great thing to do. I could see why all NBA players like their first thing is NBA players like their first thing is NBA players like their first thing is like, I bought my mama a house. It's like, I bought my mama a house. It's like, I bought my mama a house. It's like I think there's probably like very like I think there's probably like very like I think there's probably like very few things you could do that will like, few things you could do that will like, few things you could do that will like, you know, feel as good as like taking you know, feel as good as like taking you know, feel as good as like taking your dad or your mom to like to do your dad or your mom to like to do your dad or your mom to like to do something that that they would love to something that that they would love to something that that they would love to do they'd never do for themselves and do they'd never do for themselves and do they'd never do for themselves and like, you know, get to do that with them like, you know, get to do that with them like, you know, get to do that with them when you're a grown-up. when you're a grown-up. when you're a grown-up. >> Exactly. Do you guys do you guys want to >> Exactly. Do you guys do you guys want to >> Exactly. Do you guys do you guys want to combine frame breaking person and combine frame breaking person and combine frame breaking person and favorite guest? favorite guest? favorite guest? >> Okay, what you got? >> Okay, what you got? >> Okay, what you got? >> So, um Well, do you have a favorite >> So, um Well, do you have a favorite >> So, um Well, do you have a favorite guest? guest? guest? >> Well, let's explain what frame breaking >> Well, let's explain what frame breaking >> Well, let's explain what frame breaking is, is, is, >> dude. Go for it. >> dude. Go for it. >> dude. Go for it. >> Okay, so me and Sam use this term a lot. >> Okay, so me and Sam use this term a lot. >> Okay, so me and Sam use this term a lot. Frame breaking, everybody walks around Frame breaking, everybody walks around Frame breaking, everybody walks around with some frame. And frame is like a with some frame. And frame is like a with some frame. And frame is like a border, right? And everything that's border, right? And everything that's border, right? And everything that's inside the border is what you sort of inside the border is what you sort of inside the border is what you sort of I'm used to that. I've seen that. I I'm used to that. I've seen that. I I'm used to that. I've seen that. I expect that. That's what's in the expect that. That's what's in the expect that. That's what's in the picture. That's how wide my lens goes. picture. That's how wide my lens goes. picture. That's how wide my lens goes. Then occasionally you'll meet these Then occasionally you'll meet these Then occasionally you'll meet these people who will just completely break people who will just completely break people who will just completely break your frame and it's like oh I didn't your frame and it's like oh I didn't your frame and it's like oh I didn't like it's like imagine a painting where like it's like imagine a painting where like it's like imagine a painting where somebody just starts drawing past the somebody just starts drawing past the somebody just starts drawing past the frame onto the wall. You're like what? frame onto the wall. You're like what? frame onto the wall. You're like what? You can't go out there. And so this is You can't go out there. And so this is You can't go out there. And so this is maybe somebody with like extreme maybe somebody with like extreme maybe somebody with like extreme ambition or they live life to the ambition or they live life to the ambition or they live life to the fullest in this way that you don't fullest in this way that you don't fullest in this way that you don't really do or they're really, you know, really do or they're really, you know, really do or they're really, you know, really intentional about their time or, really intentional about their time or, really intentional about their time or, you know, there's these things that you know, there's these things that you know, there's these things that people do that you thought you knew what people do that you thought you knew what people do that you thought you knew what level 10 looked like in that category level 10 looked like in that category level 10 looked like in that category and then you realize, oh, what I thought and then you realize, oh, what I thought and then you realize, oh, what I thought was a 10 is a seven. And now I know what was a 10 is a seven. And now I know what was a 10 is a seven. And now I know what a 10 looks like. I actually like a 10 looks like. I actually like a 10 looks like. I actually like somebody's broken my frame. They've somebody's broken my frame. They've somebody's broken my frame. They've turned the volume knob up further than I turned the volume knob up further than I turned the volume knob up further than I thought it could go in that aspect of thought it could go in that aspect of thought it could go in that aspect of their life. So that's the setup. Who who their life. So that's the setup. Who who their life. So that's the setup. Who who was your framebreaking person? was your framebreaking person? was your framebreaking person? >> So, there's this Aristotle quote that >> So, there's this Aristotle quote that >> So, there's this Aristotle quote that I've been thinking about for like a year I've been thinking about for like a year I've been thinking about for like a year now. I think last last time when we did now. I think last last time when we did now. I think last last time when we did this, I was saying I was trying to use this, I was saying I was trying to use this, I was saying I was trying to use my phone less. And there's Aristotle my phone less. And there's Aristotle my phone less. And there's Aristotle quote. It says, "Excellence is never an quote. It says, "Excellence is never an quote. It says, "Excellence is never an accident. It's always the result of high accident. It's always the result of high accident. It's always the result of high intention, sincere effort, and intention, sincere effort, and intention, sincere effort, and intelligent execution." And the reason I intelligent execution." And the reason I intelligent execution." And the reason I think about that all the time is because think about that all the time is because think about that all the time is because I don't know about you guys, but like if I don't know about you guys, but like if I don't know about you guys, but like if I'm on a Zoom meeting, I'm probably I'm on a Zoom meeting, I'm probably I'm on a Zoom meeting, I'm probably browsing the internet. If I'm watching browsing the internet. If I'm watching browsing the internet. If I'm watching TV, I probably have my phone up and I'm TV, I probably have my phone up and I'm TV, I probably have my phone up and I'm doing something. like there's this doing something. like there's this doing something. like there's this constant pattern of [snorts] constant pattern of [snorts] constant pattern of [snorts] interruption and never focusing on interruption and never focusing on interruption and never focusing on something and it's kind of been tearing something and it's kind of been tearing something and it's kind of been tearing me apart. It's kind of making me gone me apart. It's kind of making me gone me apart. It's kind of making me gone mad. And so I've been working so hard on mad. And so I've been working so hard on mad. And so I've been working so hard on being intentional about my attention and being intentional about my attention and being intentional about my attention and uh focusing on excellence but in a very uh focusing on excellence but in a very uh focusing on excellence but in a very few amount of things. So just picking a few amount of things. So just picking a few amount of things. So just picking a couple things and being great. And we couple things and being great. And we couple things and being great. And we had this guy I don't think you were here had this guy I don't think you were here had this guy I don't think you were here Sean but we had this guy named Will Gada Sean but we had this guy named Will Gada Sean but we had this guy named Will Gada who wrote this book called Unreasonable who wrote this book called Unreasonable who wrote this book called Unreasonable Hospitality. And the story is if you Hospitality. And the story is if you Hospitality. And the story is if you guys have seen the bear he it's one of guys have seen the bear he it's one of guys have seen the bear he it's one of the inspirations for the bear the TV the inspirations for the bear the TV the inspirations for the bear the TV show but basically the story is that he show but basically the story is that he show but basically the story is that he owned this uh very famous restaurant in owned this uh very famous restaurant in owned this uh very famous restaurant in se uh New York called 11 Madison and se uh New York called 11 Madison and se uh New York called 11 Madison and they are famous for going above and they are famous for going above and they are famous for going above and beyond. For example uh someone beyond. For example uh someone beyond. For example uh someone >> the top rated restaurant in the country >> the top rated restaurant in the country >> the top rated restaurant in the country or what's like the claim to fame right or what's like the claim to fame right or what's like the claim to fame right like like like >> it was the top rated restaurant in the >> it was the top rated restaurant in the >> it was the top rated restaurant in the country in part because the food was was country in part because the food was was country in part because the food was was special. It was a Michelin star place so special. It was a Michelin star place so special. It was a Michelin star place so it was like fancy but the other part was it was like fancy but the other part was it was like fancy but the other part was that they were known for being that they were known for being that they were known for being unreasonably hospitalitable. So, I'll unreasonably hospitalitable. So, I'll unreasonably hospitalitable. So, I'll give you an example. They had this give you an example. They had this give you an example. They had this couple or family from Europe uh come to couple or family from Europe uh come to couple or family from Europe uh come to the restaurant that they had planned for the restaurant that they had planned for the restaurant that they had planned for months to attend and uh Will or a waiter months to attend and uh Will or a waiter months to attend and uh Will or a waiter overheard them say, "We're leaving overheard them say, "We're leaving overheard them say, "We're leaving tomorrow." But the one thing we didn't tomorrow." But the one thing we didn't tomorrow." But the one thing we didn't get to experience was a New York street get to experience was a New York street get to experience was a New York street hot dog. And so Will has this guy at his hot dog. And so Will has this guy at his hot dog. And so Will has this guy at his company who they called them the dreamw company who they called them the dreamw company who they called them the dreamw weaver. And his only job was to make weaver. And his only job was to make weaver. And his only job was to make dreams come true to their customers. And dreams come true to their customers. And dreams come true to their customers. And so this guy ran outside and he bought a so this guy ran outside and he bought a so this guy ran outside and he bought a street hot dog or a couple of them and street hot dog or a couple of them and street hot dog or a couple of them and they chopped them up and put like a cute they chopped them up and put like a cute they chopped them up and put like a cute garnish on it. So it sort of looked like garnish on it. So it sort of looked like garnish on it. So it sort of looked like it was a fancy restaurant food but it it was a fancy restaurant food but it it was a fancy restaurant food but it was actually a street hot dog. And they was actually a street hot dog. And they was actually a street hot dog. And they said, "We heard you talk about you said, "We heard you talk about you said, "We heard you talk about you wanting a hot dog. Here you go. Your wanting a hot dog. Here you go. Your wanting a hot dog. Here you go. Your dreams have come become a reality." And dreams have come become a reality." And dreams have come become a reality." And that's rooted in like unreasonable that's rooted in like unreasonable that's rooted in like unreasonable hospitality, but the reality is it's hospitality, but the reality is it's hospitality, but the reality is it's about being excellent. And he gave this about being excellent. And he gave this about being excellent. And he gave this amazing spiel. And it's crazy. This did amazing spiel. And it's crazy. This did amazing spiel. And it's crazy. This did not I think this hit on Spotify, but it not I think this hit on Spotify, but it not I think this hit on Spotify, but it did not hit on YouTube. But this was the did not hit on YouTube. But this was the did not hit on YouTube. But this was the best podcast I'd ever recorded based uh best podcast I'd ever recorded based uh best podcast I'd ever recorded based uh just of why he told me of the idea of just of why he told me of the idea of just of why he told me of the idea of just he was like we are going to go just he was like we are going to go just he was like we are going to go above and beyond and we are going to be above and beyond and we are going to be above and beyond and we are going to be excellent and I found that to be kind of excellent and I found that to be kind of excellent and I found that to be kind of overfilling my cup not just in the overfilling my cup not just in the overfilling my cup not just in the business category but in life of just business category but in life of just business category but in life of just pursuing excellence for the sake of just pursuing excellence for the sake of just pursuing excellence for the sake of just trying to be great at a couple things trying to be great at a couple things trying to be great at a couple things and I found that to be a very uh and I found that to be a very uh and I found that to be a very uh inspirational book and I find him to be inspirational book and I find him to be inspirational book and I find him to be a very inspirational person and kind of a very inspirational person and kind of a very inspirational person and kind of broke my frame. broke my frame. broke my frame. >> That was awesome. That was an awesome >> That was awesome. That was an awesome >> That was awesome. That was an awesome rant and summary of it too. I love that. rant and summary of it too. I love that. rant and summary of it too. I love that. >> Thank you. It was awesome. >> Thank you. It was awesome. >> Thank you. It was awesome. >> That scene in the bear is the best. They >> That scene in the bear is the best. They >> That scene in the bear is the best. They they they recreated that that idea in they they recreated that that idea in they they recreated that that idea in the bear. Uh and it was like peak peak the bear. Uh and it was like peak peak the bear. Uh and it was like peak peak television. television. television. >> It was the best. And then um my favorite >> It was the best. And then um my favorite >> It was the best. And then um my favorite guest sleeper of a guest, Sean Frank. So guest sleeper of a guest, Sean Frank. So guest sleeper of a guest, Sean Frank. So Sean Frank's this guy who's the CEO of Sean Frank's this guy who's the CEO of Sean Frank's this guy who's the CEO of um Ridge Wallet, which is a popular um Ridge Wallet, which is a popular um Ridge Wallet, which is a popular wallet company. He I want to guys, this wallet company. He I want to guys, this wallet company. He I want to guys, this guy's so funny and so interesting, Sean, guy's so funny and so interesting, Sean, guy's so funny and so interesting, Sean, because he's kind of like you and I like because he's kind of like you and I like because he's kind of like you and I like he can he's silly and everything, but he can he's silly and everything, but he can he's silly and everything, but his silliness is I think he's actually a his silliness is I think he's actually a his silliness is I think he's actually a very serious person. And I found this very serious person. And I found this very serious person. And I found this blog that he wrote uh last year. Listen blog that he wrote uh last year. Listen blog that he wrote uh last year. Listen to this. He said, "My goal is to sell to this. He said, "My goal is to sell to this. He said, "My goal is to sell Ridge for a billion dollars in the next Ridge for a billion dollars in the next Ridge for a billion dollars in the next three years. I have to time it right three years. I have to time it right three years. I have to time it right because we're coming out of a bubble and because we're coming out of a bubble and because we're coming out of a bubble and interest rates are going to go up and interest rates are going to go up and interest rates are going to go up and then they're going to come back down. then they're going to come back down. then they're going to come back down. Hopefully by 2025 and then by 2026 or Hopefully by 2025 and then by 2026 or Hopefully by 2025 and then by 2026 or 27, I'm going to sell this company." And 27, I'm going to sell this company." And 27, I'm going to sell this company." And I just thought it was hilarious that I just thought it was hilarious that I just thought it was hilarious that this guy like called his shot like that. this guy like called his shot like that. this guy like called his shot like that. And if you listen to the podcast that we And if you listen to the podcast that we And if you listen to the podcast that we had with him, he was a very direct had with him, he was a very direct had with him, he was a very direct person. And I find that to be incredibly person. And I find that to be incredibly person. And I find that to be incredibly refreshing. So I think Sean Frank was my refreshing. So I think Sean Frank was my refreshing. So I think Sean Frank was my favorite guest. He's a great follow on favorite guest. He's a great follow on favorite guest. He's a great follow on Twitter as well, Twitter as well, Twitter as well, >> dude. He's like a wholesome guy, but >> dude. He's like a wholesome guy, but >> dude. He's like a wholesome guy, but he's very blunt, and I find that to be a he's very blunt, and I find that to be a he's very blunt, and I find that to be a very cool combination. very cool combination. very cool combination. >> Yeah. Yeah, he's funny. >> Yeah. Yeah, he's funny. >> Yeah. Yeah, he's funny. >> So, that's my favorite guest. My >> So, that's my favorite guest. My >> So, that's my favorite guest. My favorite frame breaking people. How favorite frame breaking people. How favorite frame breaking people. How about you, about you, about you, >> Steph? You want to go next or? >> Steph? You want to go next or? >> Steph? You want to go next or? >> Sure. Um, have you guys heard of Fiona >> Sure. Um, have you guys heard of Fiona >> Sure. Um, have you guys heard of Fiona Oaks? Oaks? Oaks? >> No. Who is that >> No. Who is that >> No. Who is that >> framebreaking person? Okay, so I >> framebreaking person? Okay, so I >> framebreaking person? Okay, so I discovered her because I've gotten into discovered her because I've gotten into discovered her because I've gotten into running lately and I watched this running lately and I watched this running lately and I watched this documentary. documentary. documentary. >> Spell her name. >> Spell her name. >> Spell her name. >> Fiona Oaks. O A K E S. This documentary >> Fiona Oaks. O A K E S. This documentary >> Fiona Oaks. O A K E S. This documentary was about her. It's called Running for was about her. It's called Running for was about her. It's called Running for Good, the Fiona Oaks documentary. Okay, Good, the Fiona Oaks documentary. Okay, Good, the Fiona Oaks documentary. Okay, so get this. She has been a vegan since so get this. She has been a vegan since so get this. She has been a vegan since she was six. She lost her kneecap at age she was six. She lost her kneecap at age she was six. She lost her kneecap at age 17 due to an injury and medical 17 due to an injury and medical 17 due to an injury and medical complications. Yet, she is this crazy complications. Yet, she is this crazy complications. Yet, she is this crazy marathon woman. She lives some in some marathon woman. She lives some in some marathon woman. She lives some in some like farm area in England. She just runs like farm area in England. She just runs like farm area in England. She just runs a crazy number of miles. doctors to a crazy number of miles. doctors to a crazy number of miles. doctors to other patients who have lost their other patients who have lost their other patients who have lost their kneecaps are like, "You can't even walk kneecaps are like, "You can't even walk kneecaps are like, "You can't even walk downhill." She's running these downhill." She's running these downhill." She's running these marathons. She has multiple world marathons. She has multiple world marathons. She has multiple world records. And the craziest part is she records. And the craziest part is she records. And the craziest part is she does all of this because she just loves does all of this because she just loves does all of this because she just loves animals so much. She didn't grow up animals so much. She didn't grow up animals so much. She didn't grow up running and like, you know, enter running and like, you know, enter running and like, you know, enter competitions. She wasn't on cross competitions. She wasn't on cross competitions. She wasn't on cross country. She just one day realized, "Oh, country. She just one day realized, "Oh, country. She just one day realized, "Oh, I'm pretty fast." and then started I'm pretty fast." and then started I'm pretty fast." and then started entering marathons to win money so that entering marathons to win money so that entering marathons to win money so that she could go fund her farm business and she could go fund her farm business and she could go fund her farm business and take care of her animals better. So this take care of her animals better. So this take care of her animals better. So this woman was just like the most woman was just like the most woman was just like the most framebreaking cuz I'm just like who is framebreaking cuz I'm just like who is framebreaking cuz I'm just like who is this and how is she running 248 this and how is she running 248 this and how is she running 248 marathons? That's like 624 minutes per marathons? That's like 624 minutes per marathons? That's like 624 minutes per mile. Um and she just does it like no mile. Um and she just does it like no mile. Um and she just does it like no one knows who she is until you know one knows who she is until you know one knows who she is until you know someone discovered her and they're someone discovered her and they're someone discovered her and they're making documentaries about her. But she making documentaries about her. But she making documentaries about her. But she just just the craziest combination of just just the craziest combination of just just the craziest combination of things and she's just like she's a world things and she's just like she's a world things and she's just like she's a world record holder. record holder. record holder. >> She ran marathons before she lost her >> She ran marathons before she lost her >> She ran marathons before she lost her kneecap also or she started this hobby kneecap also or she started this hobby kneecap also or she started this hobby after. after. after. >> I don't know how much running she was >> I don't know how much running she was >> I don't know how much running she was doing before the kneecap, but all of the doing before the kneecap, but all of the doing before the kneecap, but all of the records, all of the marathon at the age records, all of the marathon at the age records, all of the marathon at the age of 16 of 16 of 16 >> post Yeah. post kneecap. >> post Yeah. post kneecap. >> post Yeah. post kneecap. >> And she's 56 now and she's doing this >> And she's 56 now and she's doing this >> And she's 56 now and she's doing this [ __ ] It's pretty wild. Yeah, it's [ __ ] It's pretty wild. Yeah, it's [ __ ] It's pretty wild. Yeah, it's crazy. The the documentary is funny, crazy. The the documentary is funny, crazy. The the documentary is funny, too, because they start out and they too, because they start out and they too, because they start out and they don't share any of her times. They're don't share any of her times. They're don't share any of her times. They're kind of hyping her up and you see her, kind of hyping her up and you see her, kind of hyping her up and you see her, she looks kind of old and you're like, she looks kind of old and you're like, she looks kind of old and you're like, "Okay, sure." You know, like she might "Okay, sure." You know, like she might "Okay, sure." You know, like she might be fast for a 50-year-old, but she's not be fast for a 50-year-old, but she's not be fast for a 50-year-old, but she's not no way she can be that fast. And then no way she can be that fast. And then no way she can be that fast. And then you actually look up her times and you actually look up her times and you actually look up her times and you're like, "Holy [ __ ] this woman is a you're like, "Holy [ __ ] this woman is a you're like, "Holy [ __ ] this woman is a legend." legend." legend." >> I don't know how these guys run so much. >> I don't know how these guys run so much. >> I don't know how these guys run so much. The more I run, the more hurt I get. The more I run, the more hurt I get. The more I run, the more hurt I get. >> Like, I >> Like, I >> Like, I >> She doesn't have the kneecap. [laughter] >> She doesn't have the kneecap. [laughter] >> She doesn't have the kneecap. [laughter] >> That's the trick. Are you are you not >> That's the trick. Are you are you not >> That's the trick. Are you are you not Are you not willing, Are you not willing, Are you not willing, >> dude? Remember that guy with the fake >> dude? Remember that guy with the fake >> dude? Remember that guy with the fake legs who ran the 400 meter in the legs who ran the 400 meter in the legs who ran the 400 meter in the Olympics? Olympics? Olympics? >> Oscaral. >> Oscaral. >> Oscaral. >> He also went to jail for like killing >> He also went to jail for like killing >> He also went to jail for like killing his wife. his wife. his wife. >> Yeah. He killed his wife. Yeah. Uh I >> Yeah. He killed his wife. Yeah. Uh I >> Yeah. He killed his wife. Yeah. Uh I always thought that was nonsense. Why do always thought that was nonsense. Why do always thought that was nonsense. Why do these guys these guys these guys >> frame or two? >> frame or two? >> frame or two? >> Well, [laughter] >> Well, [laughter] >> Well, [laughter] like why do they get to be in the like why do they get to be in the like why do they get to be in the Olympics? Like they don't like they Olympics? Like they don't like they Olympics? Like they don't like they don't have any don't have any don't have any >> in the normal Olympics or they're like >> in the normal Olympics or they're like >> in the normal Olympics or they're like >> Yes, he was in the normal Olympics, >> Yes, he was in the normal Olympics, >> Yes, he was in the normal Olympics, which is nonsense. He doesn't have any which is nonsense. He doesn't have any which is nonsense. He doesn't have any like legs that can get full of lactic like legs that can get full of lactic like legs that can get full of lactic acid. They're like metal legs. Like, why acid. They're like metal legs. Like, why acid. They're like metal legs. Like, why does he get to go? Like, you know what I does he get to go? Like, you know what I does he get to go? Like, you know what I mean? It seems ridiculous. mean? It seems ridiculous. mean? It seems ridiculous. >> That is ridiculous. >> That is ridiculous. >> That is ridiculous. >> It's ridiculous. >> It's ridiculous. >> It's ridiculous. >> I'm enraged. >> I'm enraged. >> I'm enraged. >> Yeah, it's ridiculous. Um Fiona Oaks, >> Yeah, it's ridiculous. Um Fiona Oaks, >> Yeah, it's ridiculous. Um Fiona Oaks, what's the documentary called? what's the documentary called? what's the documentary called? >> It is called Running for Good. The Fiona >> It is called Running for Good. The Fiona >> It is called Running for Good. The Fiona Oaks documentary. Really? Oaks documentary. Really? Oaks documentary. Really? >> Did you have a favorite guest also or >> Did you have a favorite guest also or >> Did you have a favorite guest also or you do you want to just use her for you do you want to just use her for you do you want to just use her for both? both? both? >> No, I've got a favorite guest. Uh you >> No, I've got a favorite guest. Uh you >> No, I've got a favorite guest. Uh you mentioned him before, so maybe he's your mentioned him before, so maybe he's your mentioned him before, so maybe he's your favorite guest. He's uh recent John favorite guest. He's uh recent John favorite guest. He's uh recent John Morgan. I listened to a bunch of the Morgan. I listened to a bunch of the Morgan. I listened to a bunch of the episodes and there were people like episodes and there were people like episodes and there were people like there was the exploding kittens guy, there was the exploding kittens guy, there was the exploding kittens guy, there was Eric Ryan, there was Shield. there was Eric Ryan, there was Shield. there was Eric Ryan, there was Shield. Like all of those people I went into the Like all of those people I went into the Like all of those people I went into the episode expecting to like I went into episode expecting to like I went into episode expecting to like I went into this episode expecting to not like John this episode expecting to not like John this episode expecting to not like John Morgan and he just was incredible. The n Morgan and he just was incredible. The n Morgan and he just was incredible. The n the number of businesses that he's gone the number of businesses that he's gone the number of businesses that he's gone into, whether it's his attraction stuff, into, whether it's his attraction stuff, into, whether it's his attraction stuff, apartments, ad agency, tech company is apartments, ad agency, tech company is apartments, ad agency, tech company is insane. But it was his oneliners that I insane. But it was his oneliners that I insane. But it was his oneliners that I was just like, "Dude, this guy was just like, "Dude, this guy was just like, "Dude, this guy simplifies the all of this like [ __ ] simplifies the all of this like [ __ ] simplifies the all of this like [ __ ] that us tech company people over that us tech company people over that us tech company people over complicate into just the best lines." complicate into just the best lines." complicate into just the best lines." He's like, "I don't hunt deer. I hunt He's like, "I don't hunt deer. I hunt He's like, "I don't hunt deer. I hunt money." When he's talking about his URL, money." When he's talking about his URL, money." When he's talking about his URL, he's like, "I went for umice for he's like, "I went for umice for he's like, "I went for umice for [laughter] all." [laughter] all." [laughter] all." >> Yeah. He was like, basically, I was >> Yeah. He was like, basically, I was >> Yeah. He was like, basically, I was worried people couldn't spell justice. worried people couldn't spell justice. worried people couldn't spell justice. So, um So, um So, um >> the people. >> the people. >> the people. >> Yeah. He went with for the people. Um, >> Yeah. He went with for the people. Um, >> Yeah. He went with for the people. Um, he also like had this line where he's he also like had this line where he's he also like had this line where he's like, I'm good at sharing the profits. like, I'm good at sharing the profits. like, I'm good at sharing the profits. And I was like, you know what, there's And I was like, you know what, there's And I was like, you know what, there's actually something to that. Like so many actually something to that. Like so many actually something to that. Like so many people are so bad at spreading the people are so bad at spreading the people are so bad at spreading the wealth. And he's just like, look, I wealth. And he's just like, look, I wealth. And he's just like, look, I treat my people good, treat my people good, treat my people good, >> you know, I share the profits. >> you know, I share the profits. >> you know, I share the profits. >> Um, bullets before bombs, >> Um, bullets before bombs, >> Um, bullets before bombs, >> crazy number. He got on and Shard and I >> crazy number. He got on and Shard and I >> crazy number. He got on and Shard and I I think I don't know who booked him, but I think I don't know who booked him, but I think I don't know who booked him, but we didn't know I don't think we entirely we didn't know I don't think we entirely we didn't know I don't think we entirely knew what we were getting into because knew what we were getting into because knew what we were getting into because he's now he's on this tour, but uh like he's now he's on this tour, but uh like he's now he's on this tour, but uh like there wasn't a lot of information about there wasn't a lot of information about there wasn't a lot of information about him. And we I don't think we knew what him. And we I don't think we knew what him. And we I don't think we knew what we were getting into. I know I was going we were getting into. I know I was going we were getting into. I know I was going into it like h we'll see. The first into it like h we'll see. The first into it like h we'll see. The first sentence he goes, I got these sentence he goes, I got these sentence he goes, I got these attractions, this upside down museum, attractions, this upside down museum, attractions, this upside down museum, and he goes and let me tell you, it and he goes and let me tell you, it and he goes and let me tell you, it [ __ ] prints money. [laughter] [ __ ] prints money. [laughter] [ __ ] prints money. [laughter] He didn't say money, they [ __ ] print. He didn't say money, they [ __ ] print. He didn't say money, they [ __ ] print. Yeah. He goes, "With [ __ ] Prince." He Yeah. He goes, "With [ __ ] Prince." He Yeah. He goes, "With [ __ ] Prince." He said the F-word so hard and we don't say said the F-word so hard and we don't say said the F-word so hard and we don't say the F word really on this show. And we the F word really on this show. And we the F word really on this show. And we both like eyes went open and we were both like eyes went open and we were both like eyes went open and we were like, "Buckle up, baby. We are going on like, "Buckle up, baby. We are going on like, "Buckle up, baby. We are going on a on a roller coaster. This was a on a roller coaster. This was a on a roller coaster. This was something." And there was 20 lines. And something." And there was 20 lines. And something." And there was 20 lines. And I showed it to my dad because Morgan and I showed it to my dad because Morgan and I showed it to my dad because Morgan and Morgan I think is they have an office in Morgan I think is they have an office in Morgan I think is they have an office in Missouri, so that's where the Missouri, so that's where the Missouri, so that's where the commercials. And he was like, "You can't commercials. And he was like, "You can't commercials. And he was like, "You can't air this. This is going to ruin this air this. This is going to ruin this air this. This is going to ruin this guy's reputation." And I was like, "I guy's reputation." And I was like, "I guy's reputation." And I was like, "I don't know, man. I think he knows what don't know, man. I think he knows what don't know, man. I think he knows what he was doing." because he I showed up I he was doing." because he I showed up I he was doing." because he I showed up I go he said the f- word literally 15 go he said the f- word literally 15 go he said the f- word literally 15 times and another time he goes do you times and another time he goes do you times and another time he goes do you know why we win our competitors their know why we win our competitors their know why we win our competitors their lawyers they're [ __ ] and like [laughter] lawyers they're [ __ ] and like [laughter] lawyers they're [ __ ] and like [laughter] and then he goes and then he goes there and then he goes and then he goes there and then he goes and then he goes there and then when we win we go into a case and then when we win we go into a case and then when we win we go into a case they don't want to settle but six weeks they don't want to settle but six weeks they don't want to settle but six weeks in they see how serious they are and in they see how serious they are and in they see how serious they are and they want to settle and I go [ __ ] you they want to settle and I go [ __ ] you they want to settle and I go [ __ ] you and [laughter] and [laughter] and [laughter] and I take him for everything they're and I take him for everything they're and I take him for everything they're worth like he like is this he was a very worth like he like is this he was a very worth like he like is this he was a very vulgar guy but like vulgar guy but like vulgar guy but like >> if I was like a Netflix showrunner I >> if I was like a Netflix showrunner I >> if I was like a Netflix showrunner I just be like, I need to follow him just be like, I need to follow him just be like, I need to follow him around cuz I'm going to build like, you around cuz I'm going to build like, you around cuz I'm going to build like, you know, Ari Gold like characters around, know, Ari Gold like characters around, know, Ari Gold like characters around, you know, this guy's personality and the you know, this guy's personality and the you know, this guy's personality and the way he rolls. way he rolls. way he rolls. >> And we go, why are you even We said, why >> And we go, why are you even We said, why >> And we go, why are you even We said, why are you doing this? He goes, because are you doing this? He goes, because are you doing this? He goes, because it's good for business. [laughter] >> I also love that he's not I mean, he >> I also love that he's not I mean, he built a tech company, but he's not in built a tech company, but he's not in built a tech company, but he's not in our tech world. So, he'd be like, I was our tech world. So, he'd be like, I was our tech world. So, he'd be like, I was on the business insider. Or he'd be on the business insider. Or he'd be on the business insider. Or he'd be like, Sean, have you are you aware of like, Sean, have you are you aware of like, Sean, have you are you aware of this thing called first principles this thing called first principles this thing called first principles thinking? He's like, [laughter] "This thinking? He's like, [laughter] "This thinking? He's like, [laughter] "This guy's a G." guy's a G." guy's a G." >> He said, "My whole >> He said, "My whole >> He said, "My whole >> was, what would Google do?" [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> So, that was awesome. Sean, what about >> So, that was awesome. Sean, what about >> So, that was awesome. Sean, what about yours? yours? yours? >> Yeah, he I mean, he was amazing. Uh, >> Yeah, he I mean, he was amazing. Uh, >> Yeah, he I mean, he was amazing. Uh, also, I would say one other thing about also, I would say one other thing about also, I would say one other thing about him, which is I had this opinion. I him, which is I had this opinion. I him, which is I had this opinion. I don't know from where it came from, but don't know from where it came from, but don't know from where it came from, but just my default, never even thought just my default, never even thought just my default, never even thought about it again, was personal injury about it again, was personal injury about it again, was personal injury lawyers, sleazy ambulance chaser, blah lawyers, sleazy ambulance chaser, blah lawyers, sleazy ambulance chaser, blah blah blah. And it's like, wait a minute. blah blah. And it's like, wait a minute. blah blah. And it's like, wait a minute. So, what's his actual story? His brother So, what's his actual story? His brother So, what's his actual story? His brother gets basically paralyzed on the job, has gets basically paralyzed on the job, has gets basically paralyzed on the job, has poor representation. He gets mad about poor representation. He gets mad about poor representation. He gets mad about that, decides, I'm going to go to law that, decides, I'm going to go to law that, decides, I'm going to go to law school, become a personal injury lawyer school, become a personal injury lawyer school, become a personal injury lawyer to fight for, you know, fight for that. to fight for, you know, fight for that. to fight for, you know, fight for that. And it's like, wait, yes. It's basically And it's like, wait, yes. It's basically And it's like, wait, yes. It's basically people who are, you know, it's you're people who are, you know, it's you're people who are, you know, it's you're fighting for the common man against fighting for the common man against fighting for the common man against large corporations for the most part. large corporations for the most part. large corporations for the most part. And it's like, I wonder why this isn't And it's like, I wonder why this isn't And it's like, I wonder why this isn't seen as a more as a more noble seen as a more as a more noble seen as a more as a more noble profession. Like, obviously there's profession. Like, obviously there's profession. Like, obviously there's aspects to it. I get why it gets that aspects to it. I get why it gets that aspects to it. I get why it gets that bad rep, but like I don't know. I I I bad rep, but like I don't know. I I I bad rep, but like I don't know. I I I think it's I think it's over I think the think it's I think it's over I think the think it's I think it's over I think the the public opinion is far overrated on the public opinion is far overrated on the public opinion is far overrated on uh on negativity towards towards this uh on negativity towards towards this uh on negativity towards towards this profession in this way. profession in this way. profession in this way. >> I totally agree, man. Have you ever like >> I totally agree, man. Have you ever like >> I totally agree, man. Have you ever like known someone who got hurt at work and known someone who got hurt at work and known someone who got hurt at work and you're like this is a travesty. These you're like this is a travesty. These you're like this is a travesty. These insurance companies should be paying you insurance companies should be paying you insurance companies should be paying you this much more. Like there's nothing you this much more. Like there's nothing you this much more. Like there's nothing you could do, you know? Have you ever like could do, you know? Have you ever like could do, you know? Have you ever like tried Have you like got in a I've been tried Have you like got in a I've been tried Have you like got in a I've been like a car like my car got messed up and like a car like my car got messed up and like a car like my car got messed up and I was like this car is worth way more I was like this car is worth way more I was like this car is worth way more than you guys are telling me, but I just than you guys are telling me, but I just than you guys are telling me, but I just got to take it. Now imagine if this was got to take it. Now imagine if this was got to take it. Now imagine if this was like your mom who got hurt. like your mom who got hurt. like your mom who got hurt. >> You know what I mean? Yeah, I think most >> You know what I mean? Yeah, I think most >> You know what I mean? Yeah, I think most of his cases are against companies like of his cases are against companies like of his cases are against companies like insurance companies, right? So, it's insurance companies, right? So, it's insurance companies, right? So, it's it's a little weird that they have their it's a little weird that they have their it's a little weird that they have their reputation. Um, all right. I have a reputation. Um, all right. I have a reputation. Um, all right. I have a frame breaking person that you guys frame breaking person that you guys frame breaking person that you guys probably don't know. Her name is Kristen probably don't know. Her name is Kristen probably don't know. Her name is Kristen Berman. And Kristen is somebody I met at Berman. And Kristen is somebody I met at Berman. And Kristen is somebody I met at an event. I went to one, that's I lied. an event. I went to one, that's I lied. an event. I went to one, that's I lied. I did go to one event this year. I went I did go to one event this year. I went I did go to one event this year. I went to um the dialogue conference. to um the dialogue conference. to um the dialogue conference. And honestly, didn't love the conference And honestly, didn't love the conference And honestly, didn't love the conference overall, but there was one conversation overall, but there was one conversation overall, but there was one conversation I thought was really great. And it was I thought was really great. And it was I thought was really great. And it was this conversation um where Kristen was this conversation um where Kristen was this conversation um where Kristen was there. She is partners with Dan Arielli. there. She is partners with Dan Arielli. there. She is partners with Dan Arielli. So if you've ever read the book So if you've ever read the book So if you've ever read the book predictably irrational he's like one of predictably irrational he's like one of predictably irrational he's like one of the famous behavioral economists in the the famous behavioral economists in the the famous behavioral economists in the world. world. world. >> Business partners are like married >> Business partners are like married >> Business partners are like married >> they run irrational labs which I think >> they run irrational labs which I think >> they run irrational labs which I think is like a consulting. So companies come is like a consulting. So companies come is like a consulting. So companies come to them and you know like Panda Express to them and you know like Panda Express to them and you know like Panda Express will come to them and be like hey we will come to them and be like hey we will come to them and be like hey we want to provide healthy options but like want to provide healthy options but like want to provide healthy options but like how do we frame this in a way that will how do we frame this in a way that will how do we frame this in a way that will be like you know people make the choices be like you know people make the choices be like you know people make the choices that they want or how do we get people that they want or how do we get people that they want or how do we get people to choose to insulate how do we get to choose to insulate how do we get to choose to insulate how do we get people to choose to insulate their water people to choose to insulate their water people to choose to insulate their water heater because it's good for the heater because it's good for the heater because it's good for the environment it'll save the money but we environment it'll save the money but we environment it'll save the money but we can't seem to get them to do it. What can't seem to get them to do it. What can't seem to get them to do it. What what are ways we could do that? So what are ways we could do that? So what are ways we could do that? So they'll go to them and try to say you they'll go to them and try to say you they'll go to them and try to say you guys understand how people's consumers guys understand how people's consumers guys understand how people's consumers brains works. What are ways to do this? brains works. What are ways to do this? brains works. What are ways to do this? So anyways, she's telling this story and So anyways, she's telling this story and So anyways, she's telling this story and um the reason it's a framebreaking story um the reason it's a framebreaking story um the reason it's a framebreaking story is she she made some money. So let's is she she made some money. So let's is she she made some money. So let's just I don't know, I'll just make up just I don't know, I'll just make up just I don't know, I'll just make up some numbers, but she made a couple some numbers, but she made a couple some numbers, but she made a couple million bucks, let's say. And at the million bucks, let's say. And at the million bucks, let's say. And at the time her and her husband um and I think time her and her husband um and I think time her and her husband um and I think maybe kid, but her and her husband were maybe kid, but her and her husband were maybe kid, but her and her husband were living in, let's call it a two-bedroom, living in, let's call it a two-bedroom, living in, let's call it a two-bedroom, like a two-bed uh you know, apartment. like a two-bed uh you know, apartment. like a two-bed uh you know, apartment. And what everybody I know does is you And what everybody I know does is you And what everybody I know does is you make money and then you upgrade your make money and then you upgrade your make money and then you upgrade your lifestyle. So you go from a two bed to a lifestyle. So you go from a two bed to a lifestyle. So you go from a two bed to a three bed to a four bed to a five bed, three bed to a four bed to a five bed, three bed to a four bed to a five bed, whatever. And then soon you're at the whatever. And then soon you're at the whatever. And then soon you're at the Sam you talked about like a 17,000 foot Sam you talked about like a 17,000 foot Sam you talked about like a 17,000 foot mansion and you know the more you keep mansion and you know the more you keep mansion and you know the more you keep going and that's how they use their going and that's how they use their going and that's how they use their money to improve their life. She being a money to improve their life. She being a money to improve their life. She being a behavioral economist had a very behavioral economist had a very behavioral economist had a very different perspective and it was not out different perspective and it was not out different perspective and it was not out of like trying to be a good person or do of like trying to be a good person or do of like trying to be a good person or do something different. She was just like something different. She was just like something different. She was just like well this is what the data tells us well this is what the data tells us well this is what the data tells us matters. And so she was like uh what she matters. And so she was like uh what she matters. And so she was like uh what she did was she kept the same apartment she did was she kept the same apartment she did was she kept the same apartment she was in but she bought the three or four was in but she bought the three or four was in but she bought the three or four units right around her and created a units right around her and created a units right around her and created a basically a compound and then invited basically a compound and then invited basically a compound and then invited people who they really liked. So you people who they really liked. So you people who they really liked. So you know people that they basically built know people that they basically built know people that they basically built their own little micro community. So their own little micro community. So their own little micro community. So it's like who would be an amazing it's like who would be an amazing it's like who would be an amazing neighbor with us neighbor with us neighbor with us >> like they rented she rented it at >> like they rented she rented it at >> like they rented she rented it at >> rent below market rent. >> rent below market rent. >> rent below market rent. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And she's like you know I just you know >> And she's like you know I just you know >> And she's like you know I just you know it didn't even matter. We're not trying it didn't even matter. We're not trying it didn't even matter. We're not trying to make a rental property and get this to make a rental property and get this to make a rental property and get this cash flow. I'm not trying to upgrade my cash flow. I'm not trying to upgrade my cash flow. I'm not trying to upgrade my own lifestyle live in this baller place. own lifestyle live in this baller place. own lifestyle live in this baller place. No, like the basically the data says No, like the basically the data says No, like the basically the data says that like the people you have around that like the people you have around that like the people you have around you, your close-knit community is the you, your close-knit community is the you, your close-knit community is the number one thing that will improve your number one thing that will improve your number one thing that will improve your happiness. So, we did that. So, we happiness. So, we did that. So, we happiness. So, we did that. So, we bought these other units. We now have bought these other units. We now have bought these other units. We now have people, you know, like kind of like who people, you know, like kind of like who people, you know, like kind of like who are friends or friends adjacent like are friends or friends adjacent like are friends or friends adjacent like apply to come in. We're really rigorous apply to come in. We're really rigorous apply to come in. We're really rigorous about who gets in and then when they're about who gets in and then when they're about who gets in and then when they're in, you know, they're a part of our in, you know, they're a part of our in, you know, they're a part of our life, you know, like that we we see them life, you know, like that we we see them life, you know, like that we we see them all the time and it's been amazing. And all the time and it's been amazing. And all the time and it's been amazing. And she wasn't even really like preaching she wasn't even really like preaching she wasn't even really like preaching about this, but I was kind of like, about this, but I was kind of like, about this, but I was kind of like, "Wait a minute." Like, this is I like "Wait a minute." Like, this is I like "Wait a minute." Like, this is I like that sounds simple. Sounds simple to do. that sounds simple. Sounds simple to do. that sounds simple. Sounds simple to do. I don't know anyone who's done that. I don't know anyone who's done that. I don't know anyone who's done that. Like, do you know anybody? We know a lot Like, do you know anybody? We know a lot Like, do you know anybody? We know a lot of rich people. Do you know anybody of rich people. Do you know anybody of rich people. Do you know anybody who's actually done that? who's actually done that? who's actually done that? >> Well, I kind of did that. Me and Neville >> Well, I kind of did that. Me and Neville >> Well, I kind of did that. Me and Neville bought homes together. bought homes together. bought homes together. >> Bro, you moved away. [laughter] >> Bro, you moved away. [laughter] >> Bro, you moved away. [laughter] >> I had Yeah, I moved away doing that. >> I had Yeah, I moved away doing that. >> I had Yeah, I moved away doing that. >> I moved away to be closer to to family, >> I moved away to be closer to to family, >> I moved away to be closer to to family, but I will say we we were intentional but I will say we we were intentional but I will say we we were intentional about it and it was freaking awesome. about it and it was freaking awesome. about it and it was freaking awesome. Yeah, you you might be the only person I Yeah, you you might be the only person I Yeah, you you might be the only person I know who's also kind of like been like, know who's also kind of like been like, know who's also kind of like been like, I'm going to live on the same block as I'm going to live on the same block as I'm going to live on the same block as this person. And that's more important this person. And that's more important this person. And that's more important than getting the bathrooms with the than getting the bathrooms with the than getting the bathrooms with the marble and the way we want, you know, marble and the way we want, you know, marble and the way we want, you know, how most people I think pick and choose how most people I think pick and choose how most people I think pick and choose what they're going to do. In fact, most what they're going to do. In fact, most what they're going to do. In fact, most people I know who make money, they people I know who make money, they people I know who make money, they isolate themselves. They they move into isolate themselves. They they move into isolate themselves. They they move into more private communities, bigger and more private communities, bigger and more private communities, bigger and bigger places with bigger and bigger bigger places with bigger and bigger bigger places with bigger and bigger lots and they basically like create a lots and they basically like create a lots and they basically like create a pocket of loneliness because maybe their pocket of loneliness because maybe their pocket of loneliness because maybe their family can't afford to live right next family can't afford to live right next family can't afford to live right next to them or their friends aren't also in to them or their friends aren't also in to them or their friends aren't also in in the same, you know, either category in the same, you know, either category in the same, you know, either category or looking to move at the same time and or looking to move at the same time and or looking to move at the same time and they move into a place where other they move into a place where other they move into a place where other people are used to not talking to each people are used to not talking to each people are used to not talking to each other and they they it's like other and they they it's like other and they they it's like isolationist. So, I just thought this isolationist. So, I just thought this isolationist. So, I just thought this was amazing. It kind of broke my frame, was amazing. It kind of broke my frame, was amazing. It kind of broke my frame, but it was very inspiring because as but it was very inspiring because as but it was very inspiring because as much as I'm inspired to learn how to much as I'm inspired to learn how to much as I'm inspired to learn how to make money, I think Morgan Hansel said make money, I think Morgan Hansel said make money, I think Morgan Hansel said it best, like you can either use money it best, like you can either use money it best, like you can either use money in one of two ways. Number one, as a in one of two ways. Number one, as a in one of two ways. Number one, as a tool to improve your life, or number tool to improve your life, or number tool to improve your life, or number two, as a measuring stick to measure two, as a measuring stick to measure two, as a measuring stick to measure your your self-worth. And I, you know, your your self-worth. And I, you know, your your self-worth. And I, you know, it's so easy to get caught in the money it's so easy to get caught in the money it's so easy to get caught in the money as a measuring stick thing, but money as as a measuring stick thing, but money as as a measuring stick thing, but money as a tool to improve your life, that means a tool to improve your life, that means a tool to improve your life, that means you got to learn how to spend it just as you got to learn how to spend it just as you got to learn how to spend it just as much as you got to learn how to make it. much as you got to learn how to make it. much as you got to learn how to make it. And so he's, you know, this this was an And so he's, you know, this this was an And so he's, you know, this this was an example of like how to actually spend example of like how to actually spend example of like how to actually spend money to improve the quality of your money to improve the quality of your money to improve the quality of your life. life. life. >> We should have her on. This sounds >> We should have her on. This sounds >> We should have her on. This sounds great. great. great. >> Yeah, we totally should. She was >> Yeah, we totally should. She was >> Yeah, we totally should. She was awesome. awesome. awesome. >> That's cool. That's a great one. U I >> That's cool. That's a great one. U I >> That's cool. That's a great one. U I never heard of this uh this person. That never heard of this uh this person. That never heard of this uh this person. That sounds badass. Does she have a book or sounds badass. Does she have a book or sounds badass. Does she have a book or anything anything anything >> or is her >> or is her >> or is her rational was kind of like part of their rational was kind of like part of their rational was kind of like part of their thing? I don't know. I don't know. I thing? I don't know. I don't know. I thing? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know too much, but uh yeah, let's don't know too much, but uh yeah, let's don't know too much, but uh yeah, let's have her on. She's gonna be great. have her on. She's gonna be great. have her on. She's gonna be great. >> Um and what's your favorite guest? >> Um and what's your favorite guest? >> Um and what's your favorite guest? >> Favorite guest was Nick Mobre. So, this >> Favorite guest was Nick Mobre. So, this >> Favorite guest was Nick Mobre. So, this is basically the the closest person to is basically the the closest person to is basically the the closest person to Elon Musk that I've ever met. Um, not Elon Musk that I've ever met. Um, not Elon Musk that I've ever met. Um, not like closest as in like friends, but like closest as in like friends, but like closest as in like friends, but like closest like, oh wow, you're like closest like, oh wow, you're like closest like, oh wow, you're basically like Elon. He just, you know, basically like Elon. He just, you know, basically like Elon. He just, you know, and Elon was born in South Africa. This and Elon was born in South Africa. This and Elon was born in South Africa. This guy's in New Zealand. And he went into guy's in New Zealand. And he went into guy's in New Zealand. And he went into the toy industry. And if you haven't the toy industry. And if you haven't the toy industry. And if you haven't heard it, the pod he did, he he does heard it, the pod he did, he he does heard it, the pod he did, he he does very few podcasts. I think when I was very few podcasts. I think when I was very few podcasts. I think when I was doing research, it was like one doing research, it was like one doing research, it was like one interview from like 15 years ago was the interview from like 15 years ago was the interview from like 15 years ago was the only thing I could find. And um it took only thing I could find. And um it took only thing I could find. And um it took like 30 emails to get him to come on. like 30 emails to get him to come on. like 30 emails to get him to come on. And he was amazing. Such a good dude. And he was amazing. Such a good dude. And he was amazing. Such a good dude. And his story is like like a movie. Um, And his story is like like a movie. Um, And his story is like like a movie. Um, you know, literally like sleeping in a you know, literally like sleeping in a you know, literally like sleeping in a bush, uh, you know, in China trying to bush, uh, you know, in China trying to bush, uh, you know, in China trying to trying to make it happen. Like it was trying to make it happen. Like it was trying to make it happen. Like it was just unbelievable. Like the sort of just unbelievable. Like the sort of just unbelievable. Like the sort of sleeping on the factory floor mentality. sleeping on the factory floor mentality. sleeping on the factory floor mentality. The level of grit living off a dollar a The level of grit living off a dollar a The level of grit living off a dollar a day until they made it. And now you know day until they made it. And now you know day until they made it. And now you know the brothers are the wealthiest men in the brothers are the wealthiest men in the brothers are the wealthiest men in New Zealand. They're bu self-made New Zealand. They're bu self-made New Zealand. They're bu self-made billionaires. Own the whole thing. not billionaires. Own the whole thing. not billionaires. Own the whole thing. not only built one of the biggest toy, only built one of the biggest toy, only built one of the biggest toy, probably a top three toy company in the probably a top three toy company in the probably a top three toy company in the world sitting in New Zealand, but also world sitting in New Zealand, but also world sitting in New Zealand, but also built like, you know, a top three diaper built like, you know, a top three diaper built like, you know, a top three diaper company, also built a top shampoo company, also built a top shampoo company, also built a top shampoo company. Like this guy is insane. Like, company. Like this guy is insane. Like, company. Like this guy is insane. Like, you know, he was saying how when he he you know, he was saying how when he he you know, he was saying how when he he got like uh you know, that living off a got like uh you know, that living off a got like uh you know, that living off a dollar a day in China, eating dollar a day in China, eating dollar a day in China, eating McDonald's, you know, like kind of off McDonald's, you know, like kind of off McDonald's, you know, like kind of off the dollar menu type of thing got, you the dollar menu type of thing got, you the dollar menu type of thing got, you know, caught up to him and he had to know, caught up to him and he had to know, caught up to him and he had to like get his like small intestine like get his like small intestine like get his like small intestine removed or something. thing and he's removed or something. thing and he's removed or something. thing and he's like, "You know, when I was in recovery like, "You know, when I was in recovery like, "You know, when I was in recovery sitting in the like hospital, I decided sitting in the like hospital, I decided sitting in the like hospital, I decided like I was watching Tik Tok and I like I was watching Tik Tok and I like I was watching Tik Tok and I decided like I'm going to build one of decided like I'm going to build one of decided like I'm going to build one of the biggest brands on TikTok and he the biggest brands on TikTok and he the biggest brands on TikTok and he built like the biggest diaper brand as a built like the biggest diaper brand as a built like the biggest diaper brand as a side quest using Tik Tok." And I'm like, side quest using Tik Tok." And I'm like, side quest using Tik Tok." And I'm like, "This guy is an animal." To the point "This guy is an animal." To the point "This guy is an animal." To the point where after the pod, I don't think we where after the pod, I don't think we where after the pod, I don't think we caught this on the pod, but he said caught this on the pod, but he said caught this on the pod, but he said something like I asked him, I was like, something like I asked him, I was like, something like I asked him, I was like, "Dude, you're like Elon. Have you ever "Dude, you're like Elon. Have you ever "Dude, you're like Elon. Have you ever met Elon?" He's like, "No, I've never met Elon?" He's like, "No, I've never met Elon?" He's like, "No, I've never met. I would would love to have met met. I would would love to have met met. I would would love to have met him." He's like, "You know, at one him." He's like, "You know, at one him." He's like, "You know, at one point, me and my brother, we were the point, me and my brother, we were the point, me and my brother, we were the largest shareholders in the world of largest shareholders in the world of largest shareholders in the world of Tesla stock." He's like, "I'm a big Tesla stock." He's like, "I'm a big Tesla stock." He's like, "I'm a big fan." And I was like, "What do you fan." And I was like, "What do you fan." And I was like, "What do you mean?" He's like, "Yeah, I think we mean?" He's like, "Yeah, I think we mean?" He's like, "Yeah, I think we owned I think they owned like I forgot owned I think they owned like I forgot owned I think they owned like I forgot he said 1% or 4% of of Tesla. Just he said 1% or 4% of of Tesla. Just he said 1% or 4% of of Tesla. Just personally, they owned it." And he's personally, they owned it." And he's personally, they owned it." And he's like, "Yeah, we you know, but then when like, "Yeah, we you know, but then when like, "Yeah, we you know, but then when COVID hit and like the world stopped and COVID hit and like the world stopped and COVID hit and like the world stopped and the factories had to shut down, we the factories had to shut down, we the factories had to shut down, we didn't know. We had such a huge didn't know. We had such a huge didn't know. We had such a huge position. We, you know, we reduced position. We, you know, we reduced position. We, you know, we reduced during that time." He's like, "Huge during that time." He's like, "Huge during that time." He's like, "Huge mistake. we left like 15 billion dollars mistake. we left like 15 billion dollars mistake. we left like 15 billion dollars on the table by not holding for the next on the table by not holding for the next on the table by not holding for the next 5 years. And he's like um but to the 5 years. And he's like um but to the 5 years. And he's like um but to the point where his brother like flew to point where his brother like flew to point where his brother like flew to California and installed cameras on California and installed cameras on California and installed cameras on buildings that had an angle at the buildings that had an angle at the buildings that had an angle at the Fremont factory cuz they were like this Fremont factory cuz they were like this Fremont factory cuz they were like this is such a huge position we should is such a huge position we should is such a huge position we should monitor the factory production and I was monitor the factory production and I was monitor the factory production and I was like this is the most high agency person like this is the most high agency person like this is the most high agency person I've ever met in my life. Um I was very I've ever met in my life. Um I was very I've ever met in my life. Um I was very very inspired by Nick Moberry. It says very inspired by Nick Moberry. It says very inspired by Nick Moberry. It says on Wikipedia that they're both they're on Wikipedia that they're both they're on Wikipedia that they're both they're worth collectively $20 billion. I didn't worth collectively $20 billion. I didn't worth collectively $20 billion. I didn't realize I I thought that he was a realize I I thought that he was a realize I I thought that he was a billionaire. Like 1 billion. That's billionaire. Like 1 billion. That's billionaire. Like 1 billion. That's incredible. incredible. incredible. >> No. And now they're like 3D printing >> No. And now they're like 3D printing >> No. And now they're like 3D printing houses. Like it's it's they're doing houses. Like it's it's they're doing houses. Like it's it's they're doing crazy crazy stuff. crazy crazy stuff. crazy crazy stuff. >> And the base is just the toy company. >> And the base is just the toy company. >> And the base is just the toy company. >> Like that was the foundation of the >> Like that was the foundation of the >> Like that was the foundation of the wealth. wealth. wealth. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That is so insane when you hear these That is so insane when you hear these That is so insane when you hear these people who have side quests that are people who have side quests that are people who have side quests that are like orders of magnitude bigger and like orders of magnitude bigger and like orders of magnitude bigger and better than anything you've ever built. better than anything you've ever built. better than anything you've ever built. Yeah, it's it's Wow. Yeah, it's it's Wow. Yeah, it's it's Wow. >> Wow, that was awesome. You um I knew the >> Wow, that was awesome. You um I knew the >> Wow, that was awesome. You um I knew the story, but I didn't realize how story, but I didn't realize how story, but I didn't realize how successful they were. That's really successful they were. That's really successful they were. That's really amazing. amazing. amazing. >> Um okay, we probably only have a couple >> Um okay, we probably only have a couple >> Um okay, we probably only have a couple more that we're going to do. Do you want more that we're going to do. Do you want more that we're going to do. Do you want to do to do to do >> Which one do you want to do? >> Which one do you want to do? >> Which one do you want to do? >> Biggest change you're making and then >> Biggest change you're making and then >> Biggest change you're making and then the the meme of the year maybe. the the meme of the year maybe. the the meme of the year maybe. >> Yeah. What's yours? What's your biggest >> Yeah. What's yours? What's your biggest >> Yeah. What's yours? What's your biggest change? change? change? >> All right. So, uh, after hanging out >> All right. So, uh, after hanging out >> All right. So, uh, after hanging out with Jesse, I was like, "What's my new with Jesse, I was like, "What's my new with Jesse, I was like, "What's my new misogi going to be?" And we were both misogi going to be?" And we were both misogi going to be?" And we were both talking about, um, he was he was he's talking about, um, he was he was he's talking about, um, he was he was he's written a lot of books, but he was like, written a lot of books, but he was like, written a lot of books, but he was like, "Dude, honestly," he's like, "I feel "Dude, honestly," he's like, "I feel "Dude, honestly," he's like, "I feel bad." He's like, "I don't read that many bad." He's like, "I don't read that many bad." He's like, "I don't read that many books." He's like, "I I don't even read books." He's like, "I I don't even read books." He's like, "I I don't even read five books in a year." He's like, "I five books in a year." He's like, "I five books in a year." He's like, "I can't believe it. Something I really can't believe it. Something I really can't believe it. Something I really feel like I should change." And I was feel like I should change." And I was feel like I should change." And I was thinking about this. I've thought about thinking about this. I've thought about thinking about this. I've thought about it very similarly, and I was like, "You it very similarly, and I was like, "You it very similarly, and I was like, "You know what? know what? know what? All right." And so I was like took my All right." And so I was like took my All right." And so I was like took my phone and I just deleted X, deleted phone and I just deleted X, deleted phone and I just deleted X, deleted Twitter, deleted uh YouTube, deleted Twitter, deleted uh YouTube, deleted Twitter, deleted uh YouTube, deleted Reddit. And I was basically like I think Reddit. And I was basically like I think Reddit. And I was basically like I think I can give myself back 10 to 15 hours a I can give myself back 10 to 15 hours a I can give myself back 10 to 15 hours a week of time and mind space and I'm just week of time and mind space and I'm just week of time and mind space and I'm just going to not consume any social this going to not consume any social this going to not consume any social this year. I'm just going to get off social year. I'm just going to get off social year. I'm just going to get off social completely. I'll still post. I'll have completely. I'll still post. I'll have completely. I'll still post. I'll have my team like post stuff like I can my team like post stuff like I can my team like post stuff like I can create for social. I just can't consume. create for social. I just can't consume. create for social. I just can't consume. And I'm gonna sw I call this the Luca And I'm gonna sw I call this the Luca And I'm gonna sw I call this the Luca Donuch trade. It's like what if I could Donuch trade. It's like what if I could Donuch trade. It's like what if I could get the best thing back, you know, and get the best thing back, you know, and get the best thing back, you know, and which would be like reading some of the which would be like reading some of the which would be like reading some of the best books of all time and I'll give up best books of all time and I'll give up best books of all time and I'll give up some crappy assets, you know, I'll give some crappy assets, you know, I'll give some crappy assets, you know, I'll give up u you know, some some problem riddled up u you know, some some problem riddled up u you know, some some problem riddled assets like, you know, all all these assets like, you know, all all these assets like, you know, all all these different social media apps. And so different social media apps. And so different social media apps. And so that's my trade I'm making uh for this that's my trade I'm making uh for this that's my trade I'm making uh for this year. year. year. >> Damn. How when did you make the change? >> Damn. How when did you make the change? >> Damn. How when did you make the change? >> Delete the apps >> Delete the apps >> Delete the apps >> on the flight back. >> on the flight back. >> on the flight back. >> So how many days ago? [laughter] >> So how many days ago? [laughter] >> So how many days ago? [laughter] >> It was like I was like, how's it going >> It was like I was like, how's it going >> It was like I was like, how's it going so far? so far? so far? here. Yeah. Yeah. I started early. It's here. Yeah. Yeah. I started early. It's here. Yeah. Yeah. I started early. It's not that not that not that >> like I do. I used to use social media >> like I do. I used to use social media >> like I do. I used to use social media just like you guys yesterday. I know just like you guys yesterday. I know just like you guys yesterday. I know exactly how you feel. [laughter] exactly how you feel. [laughter] exactly how you feel. [laughter] >> Oh, I can't wait to look down upon >> Oh, I can't wait to look down upon >> Oh, I can't wait to look down upon people who use social media. [laughter] people who use social media. [laughter] people who use social media. [laughter] Imagine how self-righteous I could be. Imagine how self-righteous I could be. Imagine how self-righteous I could be. >> That's a great move. Uh I used last year >> That's a great move. Uh I used last year >> That's a great move. Uh I used last year I used the brick for it or I think it's I used the brick for it or I think it's I used the brick for it or I think it's called brick or the brick. Uh it was called brick or the brick. Uh it was called brick or the brick. Uh it was really helpful and I don't actually really helpful and I don't actually really helpful and I don't actually don't have social media on my phone. Um, don't have social media on my phone. Um, don't have social media on my phone. Um, but I do use it on my computer, so it but I do use it on my computer, so it but I do use it on my computer, so it which is not good either, but that's a which is not good either, but that's a which is not good either, but that's a good move. good move. good move. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> Um, >> Um, >> you already do this. You read like 25 >> you already do this. You read like 25 >> you already do this. You read like 25 books a year, and I think you're very books a year, and I think you're very books a year, and I think you're very like like like >> I read a lot of books lately. >> I read a lot of books lately. >> I read a lot of books lately. >> Your phone putting your phone in a box. >> Your phone putting your phone in a box. >> Your phone putting your phone in a box. I think you you're very self-actualized I think you you're very self-actualized I think you you're very self-actualized in that, whereas I'm still like the the in that, whereas I'm still like the the in that, whereas I'm still like the the mouse or the rat, like pushing the pedal mouse or the rat, like pushing the pedal mouse or the rat, like pushing the pedal trying to get a pellet of cocaine out of trying to get a pellet of cocaine out of trying to get a pellet of cocaine out of the thing. You know, the thing. You know, the thing. You know, >> having a second kid has reduced my >> having a second kid has reduced my >> having a second kid has reduced my reading to like close to nothing because reading to like close to nothing because reading to like close to nothing because like I get up extra early and I go to like I get up extra early and I go to like I get up extra early and I go to bed and I like bed and I like bed and I like >> Makes me feel better. I have to go to >> Makes me feel better. I have to go to >> Makes me feel better. I have to go to sleep. No. So I haven't read a full book sleep. No. So I haven't read a full book sleep. No. So I haven't read a full book in months. Um it's like I I'll get in months. Um it's like I I'll get in months. Um it's like I I'll get through something and I'm like through something and I'm like through something and I'm like >> it's taken me a month to read this thing >> it's taken me a month to read this thing >> it's taken me a month to read this thing because I I like I basically have to get because I I like I basically have to get because I I like I basically have to get up at 6:00 and I'm like at 10 I have to up at 6:00 and I'm like at 10 I have to up at 6:00 and I'm like at 10 I have to go to sleep. I'm so exhausted. So yeah, go to sleep. I'm so exhausted. So yeah, go to sleep. I'm so exhausted. So yeah, having kids has basically ru a second having kids has basically ru a second having kids has basically ru a second kid has ruined my reading. kid has ruined my reading. kid has ruined my reading. >> Um the what? Wait, what are we doing? >> Um the what? Wait, what are we doing? >> Um the what? Wait, what are we doing? Habit or change? Habit or change? Habit or change? >> Change for next year. >> Change for next year. >> Change for next year. I you're not going to see this, Sean, I you're not going to see this, Sean, I you're not going to see this, Sean, but lately I've been going a lot harder but lately I've been going a lot harder but lately I've been going a lot harder on Instagram and Hampton is going to be on Instagram and Hampton is going to be on Instagram and Hampton is going to be we have this like YouTube channel called we have this like YouTube channel called we have this like YouTube channel called Moneywise and we're going to rebrand it Moneywise and we're going to rebrand it Moneywise and we're going to rebrand it and call it Hampton. And we just rented and call it Hampton. And we just rented and call it Hampton. And we just rented a new office down the street from my a new office down the street from my a new office down the street from my current office and it has seats for 60 current office and it has seats for 60 current office and it has seats for 60 people and a big studio. So, I'll be people and a big studio. So, I'll be people and a big studio. So, I'll be recording this from that new studio and recording this from that new studio and recording this from that new studio and we're going to be creating a new YouTube we're going to be creating a new YouTube we're going to be creating a new YouTube channel and I'm going to be doing a lot channel and I'm going to be doing a lot channel and I'm going to be doing a lot more Instagram content. And I feel like more Instagram content. And I feel like more Instagram content. And I feel like the other day I did a video and I was the other day I did a video and I was the other day I did a video and I was like recording and I'm like, "So, I talk like recording and I'm like, "So, I talk like recording and I'm like, "So, I talk about this on my page and I'm like, "Oh about this on my page and I'm like, "Oh about this on my page and I'm like, "Oh my god, that's like such like a boomer. my god, that's like such like a boomer. my god, that's like such like a boomer. I can't believe I just said that." I can't believe I just said that." I can't believe I just said that." [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> Uh, but I I I'm going to be going a lot >> Uh, but I I I'm going to be going a lot >> Uh, but I I I'm going to be going a lot harder on um content and it's going to harder on um content and it's going to harder on um content and it's going to start with me writing. start with me writing. start with me writing. >> Are you doing this to grow Hampton or >> Are you doing this to grow Hampton or >> Are you doing this to grow Hampton or are you doing this because you're like, are you doing this because you're like, are you doing this because you're like, I want to be influential or I love I want to be influential or I love I want to be influential or I love creating content. What's What's the creating content. What's What's the creating content. What's What's the What's the true why on this one? What's the true why on this one? What's the true why on this one? Well, I started my career because I Well, I started my career because I Well, I started my career because I enjoyed creating content and then when enjoyed creating content and then when enjoyed creating content and then when it became a little bit of a job, I it became a little bit of a job, I it became a little bit of a job, I disliked it uh as much and so I put it disliked it uh as much and so I put it disliked it uh as much and so I put it away for a while and then I was like, away for a while and then I was like, away for a while and then I was like, look, the best way to grow my company is look, the best way to grow my company is look, the best way to grow my company is just to do this thing. And I started just to do this thing. And I started just to do this thing. And I started like doing it as a job and lately I've like doing it as a job and lately I've like doing it as a job and lately I've been doing it and I'm like, I love this. been doing it and I'm like, I love this. been doing it and I'm like, I love this. I love writing and figuring this out. I love writing and figuring this out. I love writing and figuring this out. And so, um, I've been doing this stuff And so, um, I've been doing this stuff And so, um, I've been doing this stuff on Instagram now for only about three or on Instagram now for only about three or on Instagram now for only about three or four weeks and I've got millions of four weeks and I've got millions of four weeks and I've got millions of views and I'm like, this is actually a views and I'm like, this is actually a views and I'm like, this is actually a fun little uh game to figure out. and I fun little uh game to figure out. and I fun little uh game to figure out. and I enjoy like can I can I grow Hampton via enjoy like can I can I grow Hampton via enjoy like can I can I grow Hampton via content that isn't slop and uh I've content that isn't slop and uh I've content that isn't slop and uh I've enjoyed that. So that's what I'm that's enjoyed that. So that's what I'm that's enjoyed that. So that's what I'm that's my big change this year. Another simple my big change this year. Another simple my big change this year. Another simple change is I've been doing it the past change is I've been doing it the past change is I've been doing it the past month to prepare for the new year. I get month to prepare for the new year. I get month to prepare for the new year. I get my workout, my workout is finished at 7 my workout, my workout is finished at 7 my workout, my workout is finished at 7 am. I'm uh done by 7 a.m. And I know am. I'm uh done by 7 a.m. And I know am. I'm uh done by 7 a.m. And I know that again, we're doing like that again, we're doing like that again, we're doing like self-righteous stuff here, but uh I hate self-righteous stuff here, but uh I hate self-righteous stuff here, but uh I hate getting up early, but I love having getting up early, but I love having getting up early, but I love having gotten up early. And it's been a huge gotten up early. And it's been a huge gotten up early. And it's been a huge difference in just my time. difference in just my time. difference in just my time. >> Yeah. Saw Saul Hill had this great >> Yeah. Saw Saul Hill had this great >> Yeah. Saw Saul Hill had this great quote. He's like, "I don't know any quote. He's like, "I don't know any quote. He's like, "I don't know any loser who wakes up at 5 a.m. to work loser who wakes up at 5 a.m. to work loser who wakes up at 5 a.m. to work out." And it's like, out." And it's like, out." And it's like, >> that's kind of true, right? Like, >> that's kind of true, right? Like, >> that's kind of true, right? Like, [laughter] have you have you ever met a [laughter] have you have you ever met a [laughter] have you have you ever met a loser who does that? loser who does that? loser who does that? >> No. like being at the gym at 6:00 a.m. >> No. like being at the gym at 6:00 a.m. >> No. like being at the gym at 6:00 a.m. and done at 7 a.m. You're like, it feels and done at 7 a.m. You're like, it feels and done at 7 a.m. You're like, it feels amazing and it's so hard to do though. amazing and it's so hard to do though. amazing and it's so hard to do though. >> Do you think you can sustain that one? >> Do you think you can sustain that one? >> Do you think you can sustain that one? >> Well, I have to because it's my job to >> Well, I have to because it's my job to >> Well, I have to because it's my job to my eldest kid, I get her out of bed at my eldest kid, I get her out of bed at my eldest kid, I get her out of bed at 7:30. So, if I'm going to exercise, it 7:30. So, if I'm going to exercise, it 7:30. So, if I'm going to exercise, it has to be done by 700 or 7:10. And so, has to be done by 700 or 7:10. And so, has to be done by 700 or 7:10. And so, I've been doing it now for 30 days. And I've been doing it now for 30 days. And I've been doing it now for 30 days. And I think I can stay, you know, the the I think I can stay, you know, the the I think I can stay, you know, the the secret is very dumb. The secret is you secret is very dumb. The secret is you secret is very dumb. The secret is you have to go to bed at 10:00. have to go to bed at 10:00. have to go to bed at 10:00. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> If you're in bed by 10, this is easy. >> If you're in bed by 10, this is easy. >> If you're in bed by 10, this is easy. That's that's challenging to do, but you That's that's challenging to do, but you That's that's challenging to do, but you have to be in bed by 10, have to be in bed by 10, have to be in bed by 10, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Every time I wake up at 5:00 am, I'm >> Every time I wake up at 5:00 am, I'm >> Every time I wake up at 5:00 am, I'm like, "This is amazing. I I get so much like, "This is amazing. I I get so much like, "This is amazing. I I get so much done. Like, why don't I do this every done. Like, why don't I do this every done. Like, why don't I do this every day?" And then, you know, a year later, day?" And then, you know, a year later, day?" And then, you know, a year later, it happens again. Um, my biggest change it happens again. Um, my biggest change it happens again. Um, my biggest change is maybe kids. We'll see. Um, I'm is maybe kids. We'll see. Um, I'm is maybe kids. We'll see. Um, I'm feeling nervous about it. Do you guys feeling nervous about it. Do you guys feeling nervous about it. Do you guys have have have >> Is this an announcement? Are you >> Is this an announcement? Are you >> Is this an announcement? Are you announcing? announcing? announcing? >> No. No. No. No. Sam, are you going to >> No. No. No. No. Sam, are you going to >> No. No. No. No. Sam, are you going to ask me if I'm pregnant? ask me if I'm pregnant? ask me if I'm pregnant? >> Are you pregnant, Steph? [laughter] >> Are you pregnant, Steph? [laughter] >> Are you pregnant, Steph? [laughter] >> No. To be clear, I am not currently >> No. To be clear, I am not currently >> No. To be clear, I am not currently pregnant. We have not started trying, pregnant. We have not started trying, pregnant. We have not started trying, but it's on the radar. but it's on the radar. but it's on the radar. >> Do you want us to give you um tips like >> Do you want us to give you um tips like >> Do you want us to give you um tips like tips like how to be how to be a pregnant tips like how to be how to be a pregnant tips like how to be how to be a pregnant woman? woman? woman? >> No, not tips. More like [laughter] >> No, not tips. More like [laughter] >> No, not tips. More like [laughter] what what what what what what do you feel great about with kids? What do you feel great about with kids? What do you feel great about with kids? What makes you like I don't know. I think makes you like I don't know. I think makes you like I don't know. I think there's a lot of especially when you're there's a lot of especially when you're there's a lot of especially when you're a woman, you have to like actually, you a woman, you have to like actually, you a woman, you have to like actually, you know, grow the kid and then you have to know, grow the kid and then you have to know, grow the kid and then you have to like provide for the kid for the first like provide for the kid for the first like provide for the kid for the first few years in ways that men don't. It's a few years in ways that men don't. It's a few years in ways that men don't. It's a little daunting, but I love hearing from little daunting, but I love hearing from little daunting, but I love hearing from both men and women like the best parts both men and women like the best parts both men and women like the best parts of having kids because I feel like I of having kids because I feel like I of having kids because I feel like I don't hear those enough. don't hear those enough. don't hear those enough. >> Sean, how do you talk about this without >> Sean, how do you talk about this without >> Sean, how do you talk about this without saying the most cheesy like advice? saying the most cheesy like advice? saying the most cheesy like advice? >> Problem. >> Problem. >> Problem. >> It's every cliche, everything you've >> It's every cliche, everything you've >> It's every cliche, everything you've already heard, but it's actually true. already heard, but it's actually true. already heard, but it's actually true. So, uh, that's why it's hard to, you So, uh, that's why it's hard to, you So, uh, that's why it's hard to, you know, it's like you feel lame even know, it's like you feel lame even know, it's like you feel lame even saying it because it's so and it's so saying it because it's so and it's so saying it because it's so and it's so obvious to you when you're in it that obvious to you when you're in it that obvious to you when you're in it that like you know there like whatever I like you know there like whatever I like you know there like whatever I thought life was before this was just thought life was before this was just thought life was before this was just like you know pregame material for for like you know pregame material for for like you know pregame material for for the real game and that's that's kind of the real game and that's that's kind of the real game and that's that's kind of how it feels um in in many ways like how it feels um in in many ways like how it feels um in in many ways like level of intensity, level of like you level of intensity, level of like you level of intensity, level of like you know like love like all like p a sense know like love like all like p a sense know like love like all like p a sense of purpose like but I would say like the of purpose like but I would say like the of purpose like but I would say like the good thing about little kids me and Sam good thing about little kids me and Sam good thing about little kids me and Sam both have little kids Sam's are a a both have little kids Sam's are a a both have little kids Sam's are a a little younger than mine, so he might little younger than mine, so he might little younger than mine, so he might not even be fully in this phase yet. But not even be fully in this phase yet. But not even be fully in this phase yet. But like like like >> yeah, my eldest is two. >> yeah, my eldest is two. >> yeah, my eldest is two. >> By the time your kids are kind of like >> By the time your kids are kind of like >> By the time your kids are kind of like three, four, they're talking, they're three, four, they're talking, they're three, four, they're talking, they're walking, they're like they have a walking, they're like they have a walking, they're like they have a personality, like they're it's a whole personality, like they're it's a whole personality, like they're it's a whole deal. And um they're just like a little deal. And um they're just like a little deal. And um they're just like a little joy machine. So imagine having like a joy machine. So imagine having like a joy machine. So imagine having like a jukebox in your house and every time you jukebox in your house and every time you jukebox in your house and every time you go, you push the button and like your go, you push the button and like your go, you push the button and like your mood lifts. And the reason why is mood lifts. And the reason why is mood lifts. And the reason why is because kids are experiencing everything because kids are experiencing everything because kids are experiencing everything for the first time. So you get to for the first time. So you get to for the first time. So you get to experience everything for the first time experience everything for the first time experience everything for the first time with them being the excuse for you to with them being the excuse for you to with them being the excuse for you to like actually indulge it and actually like actually indulge it and actually like actually indulge it and actually care. and be like your own version of care. and be like your own version of care. and be like your own version of like a little kid. And then there's also like a little kid. And then there's also like a little kid. And then there's also like these incredibly satisfying moments like these incredibly satisfying moments like these incredibly satisfying moments because it's like they are, you know, because it's like they are, you know, because it's like they are, you know, like whatever you feel about like like whatever you feel about like like whatever you feel about like building a company or building a building a company or building a building a company or building a product. The truth is like the ultimate product. The truth is like the ultimate product. The truth is like the ultimate product is this little kid you made and product is this little kid you made and product is this little kid you made and you get to shape it and you get to see you get to shape it and you get to see you get to shape it and you get to see it grow and you get to see like all the it grow and you get to see like all the it grow and you get to see like all the amazing things happen. amazing things happen. amazing things happen. take any of the feelings you've had out take any of the feelings you've had out take any of the feelings you've had out of like entrepreneurship or creativity of like entrepreneurship or creativity of like entrepreneurship or creativity or creating and now like add some like or creating and now like add some like or creating and now like add some like 3,000 years of biological, you know, 3,000 years of biological, you know, 3,000 years of biological, you know, hard wiring to love all those aspects, hard wiring to love all those aspects, hard wiring to love all those aspects, you know, at a at a much higher level. you know, at a at a much higher level. you know, at a at a much higher level. >> At this stage, when I see like Instagram >> At this stage, when I see like Instagram >> At this stage, when I see like Instagram stuff of like the dad coming home from stuff of like the dad coming home from stuff of like the dad coming home from the mil military and hugging the kid or the mil military and hugging the kid or the mil military and hugging the kid or whatever, like things like that, I cry. whatever, like things like that, I cry. whatever, like things like that, I cry. I I get so like emotional by it. I was I I I get so like emotional by it. I was I I I get so like emotional by it. I was I hold my I I put my eldest to bed at hold my I I put my eldest to bed at hold my I I put my eldest to bed at night. Um, and like she lays on my my night. Um, and like she lays on my my night. Um, and like she lays on my my stomach and I'm like this is, you know, stomach and I'm like this is, you know, stomach and I'm like this is, you know, like you ever think about like when your like you ever think about like when your like you ever think about like when your parents die like how like if they go to parents die like how like if they go to parents die like how like if they go to heaven or if like you like think about heaven or if like you like think about heaven or if like you like think about them like what age will you remember them like what age will you remember them like what age will you remember them? And I with my little girl every them? And I with my little girl every them? And I with my little girl every night I'm like this is perfect. I will night I'm like this is perfect. I will night I'm like this is perfect. I will remember this for forever. And it's so remember this for forever. And it's so remember this for forever. And it's so important to be present. Uh because this important to be present. Uh because this important to be present. Uh because this is I was like when I feel her stomach on is I was like when I feel her stomach on is I was like when I feel her stomach on my my chest I'm like this is peak my my chest I'm like this is peak my my chest I'm like this is peak happiness. I have never felt this good happiness. I have never felt this good happiness. I have never felt this good and I get to experience it every single and I get to experience it every single and I get to experience it every single day. And it's very special. I think that day. And it's very special. I think that day. And it's very special. I think that for a lot of men, you don't love your for a lot of men, you don't love your for a lot of men, you don't love your kid right away. And it takes a little kid right away. And it takes a little kid right away. And it takes a little warming up to. And I'm at the phase of warming up to. And I'm at the phase of warming up to. And I'm at the phase of my life now where I'm like I like I I my life now where I'm like I like I I my life now where I'm like I like I I say this as a joke, but it's sort of say this as a joke, but it's sort of say this as a joke, but it's sort of real where I was like when I got real where I was like when I got real where I was like when I got married, I felt like I'll kill someone married, I felt like I'll kill someone married, I felt like I'll kill someone to protect you. And then when I had a to protect you. And then when I had a to protect you. And then when I had a kid, it was like I will die for you. And kid, it was like I will die for you. And kid, it was like I will die for you. And that's a very like weird way to think of that's a very like weird way to think of that's a very like weird way to think of it, but it is so fun to be like or not, it, but it is so fun to be like or not, it, but it is so fun to be like or not, I don't know, fun. It feels so great to I don't know, fun. It feels so great to I don't know, fun. It feels so great to just know I'm willing to dedicate just know I'm willing to dedicate just know I'm willing to dedicate everything I can to this thing and it everything I can to this thing and it everything I can to this thing and it feels really good to feel that way. Um, feels really good to feel that way. Um, feels really good to feel that way. Um, >> and the downside and the upside are both >> and the downside and the upside are both >> and the downside and the upside are both the same. The downside is like, oh my the same. The downside is like, oh my the same. The downside is like, oh my god, this is a lot of work and I don't god, this is a lot of work and I don't god, this is a lot of work and I don't have control over my time or my schedule have control over my time or my schedule have control over my time or my schedule the way I used to. And for people like the way I used to. And for people like the way I used to. And for people like us who are like, wow, there's always us who are like, wow, there's always us who are like, wow, there's always more projects I want to do and things I more projects I want to do and things I more projects I want to do and things I want to learn and stuff I want to go do want to learn and stuff I want to go do want to learn and stuff I want to go do and all of a sudden it's like, oh, I and all of a sudden it's like, oh, I and all of a sudden it's like, oh, I can't I don't get to, you know, like I can't I don't get to, you know, like I can't I don't get to, you know, like I don't get to do that. It's not my don't get to do that. It's not my don't get to do that. It's not my schedule anymore. That's the worst part schedule anymore. That's the worst part schedule anymore. That's the worst part of it for me at least. Uh like unless of it for me at least. Uh like unless of it for me at least. Uh like unless like there's like a health issue or like there's like a health issue or like there's like a health issue or whatever. Like that's the worst part of whatever. Like that's the worst part of whatever. Like that's the worst part of it on just like normal life. But also it on just like normal life. But also it on just like normal life. But also the best part of it is like it's not the best part of it is like it's not the best part of it is like it's not about you anymore. It's like actually about you anymore. It's like actually about you anymore. It's like actually all the problems in your life, all the all the problems in your life, all the all the problems in your life, all the bad feelings you had was like over like bad feelings you had was like over like bad feelings you had was like over like just an overimportance of the self. And just an overimportance of the self. And just an overimportance of the self. And so the thing with kids that's great is so the thing with kids that's great is so the thing with kids that's great is like it's about them now. And so you get like it's about them now. And so you get like it's about them now. And so you get like the highs from that, but you don't like the highs from that, but you don't like the highs from that, but you don't really get the same amount of lows really get the same amount of lows really get the same amount of lows because um you don't have that sort of because um you don't have that sort of because um you don't have that sort of self-rumination, self like indulgence of self-rumination, self like indulgence of self-rumination, self like indulgence of like all the little things that bother like all the little things that bother like all the little things that bother you in your world because it's really you in your world because it's really you in your world because it's really not about you anymore, you know? not about you anymore, you know? not about you anymore, you know? >> Totally. Yeah. I had a friend who had a >> Totally. Yeah. I had a friend who had a >> Totally. Yeah. I had a friend who had a kid recently and I visited her and she kid recently and I visited her and she kid recently and I visited her and she was just like your emotional spectrum is was just like your emotional spectrum is was just like your emotional spectrum is just stretched but in the most beautiful just stretched but in the most beautiful just stretched but in the most beautiful ways because you just Yeah. you're ways because you just Yeah. you're ways because you just Yeah. you're responsible for this being. when she was responsible for this being. when she was responsible for this being. when she was like walking out with her kids for the like walking out with her kids for the like walking out with her kids for the first time, she was like, "I've never first time, she was like, "I've never first time, she was like, "I've never felt more stressed because I just saw felt more stressed because I just saw felt more stressed because I just saw all the things that could, you know, all the things that could, you know, all the things that could, you know, maybe harm my child." But at the same maybe harm my child." But at the same maybe harm my child." But at the same time, like you're saying, it's more of time, like you're saying, it's more of time, like you're saying, it's more of like a it's like a new set of emotions. like a it's like a new set of emotions. like a it's like a new set of emotions. It's maybe not as self-centered. It's It's maybe not as self-centered. It's It's maybe not as self-centered. It's it's just like a more interesting aspect it's just like a more interesting aspect it's just like a more interesting aspect of life that like if you don't have of life that like if you don't have of life that like if you don't have kids, you're never going to get to kids, you're never going to get to kids, you're never going to get to experience is my sense. I haven't had experience is my sense. I haven't had experience is my sense. I haven't had them, but like that's I I find that them, but like that's I I find that them, but like that's I I find that >> that's a good way of putting it. Like, >> that's a good way of putting it. Like, >> that's a good way of putting it. Like, oh, there's like three new colors you oh, there's like three new colors you oh, there's like three new colors you didn't know about. [laughter] you know, didn't know about. [laughter] you know, didn't know about. [laughter] you know, there's like it's like this whole other there's like it's like this whole other there's like it's like this whole other thing you get to see. Um, okay. thing you get to see. Um, okay. thing you get to see. Um, okay. >> And I hate saying that. I agree with >> And I hate saying that. I agree with >> And I hate saying that. I agree with you. I hate saying that because when you. I hate saying that because when you. I hate saying that because when people don't have children, it's like people don't have children, it's like people don't have children, it's like it's an not a reversible decision. So, I it's an not a reversible decision. So, I it's an not a reversible decision. So, I don't ever want to make someone feel don't ever want to make someone feel don't ever want to make someone feel bad. And, you know, so I don't love bad. And, you know, so I don't love bad. And, you know, so I don't love talking about that, but um I do feel talking about that, but um I do feel talking about that, but um I do feel like it's sort of like the first time like it's sort of like the first time like it's sort of like the first time I've ever felt like my my purpose in I've ever felt like my my purpose in I've ever felt like my my purpose in life has is being fulfilled. life has is being fulfilled. life has is being fulfilled. >> Like you think that way about work >> Like you think that way about work >> Like you think that way about work sometimes and then and then we had it sometimes and then and then we had it sometimes and then and then we had it and I don't I hate being high and mighty and I don't I hate being high and mighty and I don't I hate being high and mighty and [ __ ] Uh, but you like have a kid and [ __ ] Uh, but you like have a kid and [ __ ] Uh, but you like have a kid and you're like, "Oh, this is like this and you're like, "Oh, this is like this and you're like, "Oh, this is like this is the like because this is why I've is the like because this is why I've is the like because this is why I've tried to impress a girl and so she would tried to impress a girl and so she would tried to impress a girl and so she would like me and then I could reproduce with like me and then I could reproduce with like me and then I could reproduce with her and now I have this thing and it's her and now I have this thing and it's her and now I have this thing and it's like [laughter] I am now connected to like [laughter] I am now connected to like [laughter] I am now connected to the 20 50 billion people before me and the 20 50 billion people before me and the 20 50 billion people before me and it feels kind of special. Feels very it feels kind of special. Feels very it feels kind of special. Feels very strange but special. strange but special. strange but special. >> Yeah, it is hard to talk about because >> Yeah, it is hard to talk about because >> Yeah, it is hard to talk about because it's just you feel you feel lame and it's just you feel you feel lame and it's just you feel you feel lame and cheesy and you don't want to like it's cheesy and you don't want to like it's cheesy and you don't want to like it's just your personal experience. You don't just your personal experience. You don't just your personal experience. You don't want to influence others but like when want to influence others but like when want to influence others but like when you ask you're like I think I won there. you ask you're like I think I won there. you ask you're like I think I won there. I'm kind of on the fence. I want to hear I'm kind of on the fence. I want to hear I'm kind of on the fence. I want to hear about it. then like, okay, about it. then like, okay, about it. then like, okay, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> permission to be to permission to >> permission to be to permission to >> permission to be to permission to cheese. cheese. cheese. >> Well, thank you and sorry for forcing >> Well, thank you and sorry for forcing >> Well, thank you and sorry for forcing you guys to do that. Someone in the chat you guys to do that. Someone in the chat you guys to do that. Someone in the chat was like, well, this just got serious, was like, well, this just got serious, was like, well, this just got serious, so [laughter] so [laughter] so [laughter] we can move on. we can move on. we can move on. >> Well, we'll end on a light note. We have >> Well, we'll end on a light note. We have >> Well, we'll end on a light note. We have favorite tweet slashme of the year. What favorite tweet slashme of the year. What favorite tweet slashme of the year. What do you have? Let's start with Steph. do you have? Let's start with Steph. do you have? Let's start with Steph. >> Guys, mine is boring, but I just loved >> Guys, mine is boring, but I just loved >> Guys, mine is boring, but I just loved the may I meet you meme. It was so good. the may I meet you meme. It was so good. the may I meet you meme. It was so good. It was so good. like what is this It was so good. like what is this It was so good. like what is this activist investor doing given dating activist investor doing given dating activist investor doing given dating advice and just the just the way you as advice and just the just the way you as advice and just the just the way you as a woman who's also in business at tech a woman who's also in business at tech a woman who's also in business at tech you get on Twitter you see this you get on Twitter you see this you get on Twitter you see this happening happening happening >> what was going through your mind give me >> what was going through your mind give me >> what was going through your mind give me the rant cycle you went through the rant cycle you went through the rant cycle you went through >> I thought it was truly hilarious because >> I thought it was truly hilarious because >> I thought it was truly hilarious because I think also I don't know like as a I think also I don't know like as a I think also I don't know like as a woman there's so many times when like woman there's so many times when like woman there's so many times when like men think that they know what women want men think that they know what women want men think that they know what women want and like I'm sure they'll Aman is a and like I'm sure they'll Aman is a and like I'm sure they'll Aman is a catch. Like I'm sure he's also like six catch. Like I'm sure he's also like six catch. Like I'm sure he's also like six feet, right? Like he's got a bunch of feet, right? Like he's got a bunch of feet, right? Like he's got a bunch of money and like, money and like, money and like, >> you know, he's going up to these women >> you know, he's going up to these women >> you know, he's going up to these women saying like, "May I meet you?" And he's saying like, "May I meet you?" And he's saying like, "May I meet you?" And he's gathering that that is what is, you gathering that that is what is, you gathering that that is what is, you know, the defining action that the women know, the defining action that the women know, the defining action that the women are are liking. But I don't know. I just are are liking. But I don't know. I just are are liking. But I don't know. I just thought it was so funny because of the thought it was so funny because of the thought it was so funny because of the >> the memes that came from that. Like, >> the memes that came from that. Like, >> the memes that came from that. Like, >> do you get hit on a lot, Steph, like in >> do you get hit on a lot, Steph, like in >> do you get hit on a lot, Steph, like in work events? work events? work events? Um, not too explicitly. I mean, Um, not too explicitly. I mean, Um, not too explicitly. I mean, >> but maybe occasionally. >> but maybe occasionally. >> but maybe occasionally. >> Occasionally, but I think I've I've been >> Occasionally, but I think I've I've been >> Occasionally, but I think I've I've been able to stay I don't know if it's just able to stay I don't know if it's just able to stay I don't know if it's just my vibe, if I'm like not that much of a my vibe, if I'm like not that much of a my vibe, if I'm like not that much of a catch, but I've definitely heard catch, but I've definitely heard catch, but I've definitely heard >> No, no, I'm saying like I've heard many >> No, no, I'm saying like I've heard many >> No, no, I'm saying like I've heard many women who've have it way worse where women who've have it way worse where women who've have it way worse where like basically anywhere they go, you like basically anywhere they go, you like basically anywhere they go, you know, they just can't live normally. know, they just can't live normally. know, they just can't live normally. >> That's crazy. Um, >> That's crazy. Um, >> That's crazy. Um, >> Steph, so you saw that advice. What >> Steph, so you saw that advice. What >> Steph, so you saw that advice. What would your advice have been? If Bill would your advice have been? If Bill would your advice have been? If Bill Aman, he meant well, right? He was like, Aman, he meant well, right? He was like, Aman, he meant well, right? He was like, I heard that it's tough out there for I heard that it's tough out there for I heard that it's tough out there for young guys. Here's a little bit of young guys. Here's a little bit of young guys. Here's a little bit of advice. If if May I meet you was wrong, advice. If if May I meet you was wrong, advice. If if May I meet you was wrong, what's the right advice? what's the right advice? what's the right advice? >> I feel like Well, I mean, he's right >> I feel like Well, I mean, he's right >> I feel like Well, I mean, he's right that you just got to approach a girl, that you just got to approach a girl, that you just got to approach a girl, right? Because girls like confidence, right? Because girls like confidence, right? Because girls like confidence, but I also think girls like humor and but I also think girls like humor and but I also think girls like humor and like you knowing like you knowing like you knowing you being authentic. And so even just you being authentic. And so even just you being authentic. And so even just going up to a girl and just being like, going up to a girl and just being like, going up to a girl and just being like, "Hey, like I'm really nervous, but like "Hey, like I'm really nervous, but like "Hey, like I'm really nervous, but like I got to talk to you." This is like not I got to talk to you." This is like not I got to talk to you." This is like not the best pickup line. But I just feel the best pickup line. But I just feel the best pickup line. But I just feel like you just walking up to to a girl is like you just walking up to to a girl is like you just walking up to to a girl is like what probably nine out of 10 guys like what probably nine out of 10 guys like what probably nine out of 10 guys will not do. If you happen to say, "May will not do. If you happen to say, "May will not do. If you happen to say, "May I meet you?" It's probably fine. But I meet you?" It's probably fine. But I meet you?" It's probably fine. But [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] I don't know. Just be be natural. I don't know. Just be be natural. I don't know. Just be be natural. >> Um Sean, are you sharing right now? Is >> Um Sean, are you sharing right now? Is >> Um Sean, are you sharing right now? Is that your screen? that your screen? that your screen? >> Uh no, that's not me. But there's a I >> Uh no, that's not me. But there's a I >> Uh no, that's not me. But there's a I forgot what it is, but Lil Dicky has one forgot what it is, but Lil Dicky has one forgot what it is, but Lil Dicky has one that I that's great. I wish I I wish I that I that's great. I wish I I wish I that I that's great. I wish I I wish I had this back when I was single. It had this back when I was single. It had this back when I was single. It would have helped me. But he's like he's would have helped me. But he's like he's would have helped me. But he's like he's like, "Oh, I have the perfect pickup like, "Oh, I have the perfect pickup like, "Oh, I have the perfect pickup line." [laughter] And we can play the line." [laughter] And we can play the line." [laughter] And we can play the video because to get it right, but uh video because to get it right, but uh video because to get it right, but uh the summary of it was he was like, "Uh" the summary of it was he was like, "Uh" the summary of it was he was like, "Uh" he would go up to a woman and he'd be he would go up to a woman and he'd be he would go up to a woman and he'd be like, "What's your what's your like, "What's your what's your like, "What's your what's your availability as far as being hit on availability as far as being hit on availability as far as being hit on right now?" right now?" right now?" >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> He's like, she would laugh and she would >> He's like, she would laugh and she would >> He's like, she would laugh and she would know my intentions and then like I gave know my intentions and then like I gave know my intentions and then like I gave her it out and I gave her it in and I her it out and I gave her it in and I her it out and I gave her it in and I like you know he's like he's like it like you know he's like he's like it like you know he's like he's like it works every time. works every time. works every time. >> That's pretty. >> That's pretty. >> That's pretty. >> Someone in the chat just says, "Hey, I >> Someone in the chat just says, "Hey, I >> Someone in the chat just says, "Hey, I need you." [laughter] need you." [laughter] need you." [laughter] >> I need you a higher intensity version of >> I need you a higher intensity version of >> I need you a higher intensity version of me. I need you. me. I need you. me. I need you. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Do you remember when you guys uh Sean or >> Do you remember when you guys uh Sean or >> Do you remember when you guys uh Sean or whoever um was screen sharing? I just whoever um was screen sharing? I just whoever um was screen sharing? I just sent an example of one, but the the best sent an example of one, but the the best sent an example of one, but the the best content on social that I'm following content on social that I'm following content on social that I'm following this year. Do you remember Sean when we this year. Do you remember Sean when we this year. Do you remember Sean when we talked about cinematic content? I think talked about cinematic content? I think talked about cinematic content? I think we talked about um Creator Camp. Is that we talked about um Creator Camp. Is that we talked about um Creator Camp. Is that what we talked about? what we talked about? what we talked about? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, like here's just one example of a >> So, like here's just one example of a >> So, like here's just one example of a podcast, but I can Well, I'll send you a podcast, but I can Well, I'll send you a podcast, but I can Well, I'll send you a few more examples, but that's just one few more examples, but that's just one few more examples, but that's just one example of a podcast. Uh who is this? example of a podcast. Uh who is this? example of a podcast. Uh who is this? Mark Brazil. Have you guys Have you seen Mark Brazil. Have you guys Have you seen Mark Brazil. Have you guys Have you seen this guy's podcast? this guy's podcast? this guy's podcast? >> I've se I've seen this because it it >> I've se I've seen this because it it >> I've se I've seen this because it it stands out right in the feed. stands out right in the feed. stands out right in the feed. >> Oh my god. It stands out like hostage >> Oh my god. It stands out like hostage >> Oh my god. It stands out like hostage negotiation situation. negotiation situation. negotiation situation. >> And so, we talked about u cinematic >> And so, we talked about u cinematic >> And so, we talked about u cinematic content. So, we talked about this content. So, we talked about this content. So, we talked about this company called Creative Camp. And I'm company called Creative Camp. And I'm company called Creative Camp. And I'm noticing that like if you guys follow noticing that like if you guys follow noticing that like if you guys follow like these there's a bunch of 22 23 24 like these there's a bunch of 22 23 24 like these there's a bunch of 22 23 24 25 year old kids making like content 25 year old kids making like content 25 year old kids making like content that is not just like the talking head that is not just like the talking head that is not just like the talking head videos and it's beautiful and it's videos and it's beautiful and it's videos and it's beautiful and it's starting to transfer over into like starting to transfer over into like starting to transfer over into like podcasting which is you know normally podcasting which is you know normally podcasting which is you know normally they don't do this and like Chris they don't do this and like Chris they don't do this and like Chris Williamson has done this with his sets Williamson has done this with his sets Williamson has done this with his sets for Matthew McConna and I'm noticing for Matthew McConna and I'm noticing for Matthew McConna and I'm noticing that this type of cinematic content that this type of cinematic content that this type of cinematic content where it's like a beautiful background where it's like a beautiful background where it's like a beautiful background and it's not just I don't know your and it's not just I don't know your and it's not just I don't know your phone it's way more popular and I love phone it's way more popular and I love phone it's way more popular and I love it. I love this stuff. I'm loving it. I love this stuff. I'm loving it. I love this stuff. I'm loving internet content at the moment because internet content at the moment because internet content at the moment because of this trend. >> Not a tweet or a meme. >> Not a tweet or a meme. >> You said, [laughter] >> You said, [laughter] >> You said, [laughter] "Yeah, you're right. You did say meme of "Yeah, you're right. You did say meme of "Yeah, you're right. You did say meme of the year, the year, the year, >> but I think it's cool." And you're >> but I think it's cool." And you're >> but I think it's cool." And you're right, right, right, >> dude. I don't know. Do you pay attention >> dude. I don't know. Do you pay attention >> dude. I don't know. Do you pay attention to memes? I don't pay attention to to memes? I don't pay attention to to memes? I don't pay attention to memes. [laughter] memes. [laughter] memes. [laughter] >> Anything's a meme these days, guys. >> Anything's a meme these days, guys. >> Anything's a meme these days, guys. >> But it's always like a meme is not like >> But it's always like a meme is not like >> But it's always like a meme is not like a longlasting thing. It's just like a longlasting thing. It's just like a longlasting thing. It's just like whatever was like the Drake video. like whatever was like the Drake video. like whatever was like the Drake video. like the Drake video or like all the trends the Drake video or like all the trends the Drake video or like all the trends on Instagram that like yeah it's cool on Instagram that like yeah it's cool on Instagram that like yeah it's cool for a week and I love it and then it's for a week and I love it and then it's for a week and I love it and then it's like move on. like move on. like move on. >> I'll give you uh I'll give you two. The >> I'll give you uh I'll give you two. The >> I'll give you uh I'll give you two. The first I'll give you a funny one first. first I'll give you a funny one first. first I'll give you a funny one first. All right. Can you put that put it by a All right. Can you put that put it by a All right. Can you put that put it by a funny one? Uh this one just it wasn't funny one? Uh this one just it wasn't funny one? Uh this one just it wasn't the most funny thing but I got to say the most funny thing but I got to say the most funny thing but I got to say it's affected every day of my life. So it's affected every day of my life. So it's affected every day of my life. So the tweet is a reminder that tapping the tweet is a reminder that tapping the tweet is a reminder that tapping your credit card is a spiritually your credit card is a spiritually your credit card is a spiritually passive and feminine behavior that and passive and feminine behavior that and passive and feminine behavior that and men should pay via confident and men should pay via confident and men should pay via confident and penetrative thrust into the chip reader. penetrative thrust into the chip reader. penetrative thrust into the chip reader. And I read this, I laughed and now every And I read this, I laughed and now every And I read this, I laughed and now every time I pay for something. [laughter] time I pay for something. [laughter] time I pay for something. [laughter] I can't help but think about this. And I can't help but think about this. And I can't help but think about this. And I've been thrusting, my friends. I've I've been thrusting, my friends. I've I've been thrusting, my friends. I've been thrusting. been thrusting. been thrusting. >> You got to walk around with that w of >> You got to walk around with that w of >> You got to walk around with that w of cash. That's the most manly thing you cash. That's the most manly thing you cash. That's the most manly thing you can do. can do. can do. >> Oh, that was right. >> Oh, that was right. >> Oh, that was right. >> John Morgan. >> John Morgan. >> John Morgan. >> You do need a lot. >> You do need a lot. >> You do need a lot. >> John Morgan right there. You know what I >> John Morgan right there. You know what I >> John Morgan right there. You know what I mean? mean? mean? >> Well, having pulling out a >> Well, having pulling out a >> Well, having pulling out a >> finger lick before I start holding some >> finger lick before I start holding some >> finger lick before I start holding some bills, bills, bills, >> dude. [laughter] So, >> dude. [laughter] So, >> dude. [laughter] So, >> just that's how you pick up girls. Just >> just that's how you pick up girls. Just >> just that's how you pick up girls. Just count your bills just in the corner. My count your bills just in the corner. My count your bills just in the corner. My father-in-law did that. He had like a he father-in-law did that. He had like a he father-in-law did that. He had like a he had $1,000 in 20s and it was in a one had $1,000 in 20s and it was in a one had $1,000 in 20s and it was in a one time he had it in a rubber band and I time he had it in a rubber band and I time he had it in a rubber band and I was like, I'm in. So, like [laughter] was like, I'm in. So, like [laughter] was like, I'm in. So, like [laughter] when I bring a wallet, I definitely like when I bring a wallet, I definitely like when I bring a wallet, I definitely like to have $500 or $1,000 of like tens and to have $500 or $1,000 of like tens and to have $500 or $1,000 of like tens and 20s and it just 20s and it just 20s and it just >> looks weird in the pocket though. >> looks weird in the pocket though. >> looks weird in the pocket though. >> They know. [laughter] >> They know. [laughter] >> They know. [laughter] >> I know something. >> I know something. >> I know something. >> They know. >> They know. >> They know. >> And then I have a wholesome tweet and >> And then I have a wholesome tweet and >> And then I have a wholesome tweet and this is from uh Jay Yang. young young this is from uh Jay Yang. young young this is from uh Jay Yang. young young guy Jay Yang who said something very guy Jay Yang who said something very guy Jay Yang who said something very wise. wise. wise. >> Um >> Um >> Um >> is that the you could just do things >> is that the you could just do things >> is that the you could just do things guy? guy? guy? >> He's the you could just do things guy >> He's the you could just do things guy >> He's the you could just do things guy and he said here's the hill I'm willing and he said here's the hill I'm willing and he said here's the hill I'm willing to die on. He says real success is how to die on. He says real success is how to die on. He says real success is how many people thank you for theirs. And I many people thank you for theirs. And I many people thank you for theirs. And I thought wow that was actually really thought wow that was actually really thought wow that was actually really profound and I think I'm going to steal profound and I think I'm going to steal profound and I think I'm going to steal that as like what's the point of all that as like what's the point of all that as like what's the point of all this kind of like what is the north star this kind of like what is the north star this kind of like what is the north star as far as success goes and I was like I as far as success goes and I was like I as far as success goes and I was like I think that's the best metric. Can I say think that's the best metric. Can I say think that's the best metric. Can I say something that I've noticed, Sean, with something that I've noticed, Sean, with something that I've noticed, Sean, with you and me is, and I'm wondering if this you and me is, and I'm wondering if this you and me is, and I'm wondering if this is true for everyone or a lot of people. is true for everyone or a lot of people. is true for everyone or a lot of people. So, inspirational, motivational, cheesy So, inspirational, motivational, cheesy So, inspirational, motivational, cheesy content, there's like I don't know content, there's like I don't know content, there's like I don't know >> back. >> back. >> back. >> It's I don't know if it's called a bell >> It's I don't know if it's called a bell >> It's I don't know if it's called a bell curve. It's like an upside down bell. curve. It's like an upside down bell. curve. It's like an upside down bell. Well, where you're in the middle. Well, where you're in the middle. Well, where you're in the middle. >> Yes. You're in the middle of your or >> Yes. You're in the middle of your or >> Yes. You're in the middle of your or you're in the beginning of your career you're in the beginning of your career you're in the beginning of your career and you use it like crazy. So, I read so and you use it like crazy. So, I read so and you use it like crazy. So, I read so many self-help books and I would listen many self-help books and I would listen many self-help books and I would listen to Tony Robbins audio books constantly. to Tony Robbins audio books constantly. to Tony Robbins audio books constantly. Then you start getting in the thick of Then you start getting in the thick of Then you start getting in the thick of it and you're like, I just got to get it and you're like, I just got to get it and you're like, I just got to get this thing done. and I got to spend five this thing done. and I got to spend five this thing done. and I got to spend five or 10 years doing it. Then you get past or 10 years doing it. Then you get past or 10 years doing it. Then you get past that and you're a little bit on Maslo's that and you're a little bit on Maslo's that and you're a little bit on Maslo's hier highest hierarchy of needs and it's hier highest hierarchy of needs and it's hier highest hierarchy of needs and it's so back. I listen to so many like Jordan so back. I listen to so many like Jordan so back. I listen to so many like Jordan Peterson or Alex Herozi like compilation Peterson or Alex Herozi like compilation Peterson or Alex Herozi like compilation clips where it's just like yelling at me clips where it's just like yelling at me clips where it's just like yelling at me or like reading inspirational stuff. Are or like reading inspirational stuff. Are or like reading inspirational stuff. Are you guys doing that same thing right you guys doing that same thing right you guys doing that same thing right now? now? now? >> Love me a good quote. >> Love me a good quote. >> Love me a good quote. >> Love me a good little >> Love me a good little >> Love me a good little >> like I don't know. Give me some italics. >> like I don't know. Give me some italics. >> like I don't know. Give me some italics. I need some italics in my life. You I need some italics in my life. You I need some italics in my life. You know, that's how I feel. I I love a good know, that's how I feel. I I love a good know, that's how I feel. I I love a good quote. I've actually realized that quote. I've actually realized that quote. I've actually realized that >> most smart people >> most smart people >> most smart people uh like look down upon uh like look down upon uh like look down upon classic quotes or cliches or motivation classic quotes or cliches or motivation classic quotes or cliches or motivation or inspiration. Good. More for me. More or inspiration. Good. More for me. More or inspiration. Good. More for me. More for me. I'm I'm all in on that. That is for me. I'm I'm all in on that. That is for me. I'm I'm all in on that. That is the the index funds of uh of content for the the index funds of uh of content for the the index funds of uh of content for me. I I put me in. I want it all. me. I I put me in. I want it all. me. I I put me in. I want it all. >> Same. I'm on board with that. >> Same. I'm on board with that. >> Same. I'm on board with that. >> You're the You guys are into Live, >> You're the You guys are into Live, >> You're the You guys are into Live, Laugh, Love. Laugh, Love. Laugh, Love. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Exactly. I was gonna say that this is >> Exactly. I was gonna say that this is >> Exactly. I was gonna say that this is the live, laugh, love version, but you the live, laugh, love version, but you the live, laugh, love version, but you know what, Steph, there's a reason why know what, Steph, there's a reason why know what, Steph, there's a reason why millions of of of basic Oklahoma and millions of of of basic Oklahoma and millions of of of basic Oklahoma and Missouri women have this on their on Missouri women have this on their on Missouri women have this on their on their walls. their walls. their walls. >> Oh, I know. I know. I'm just two years >> Oh, I know. I know. I'm just two years >> Oh, I know. I know. I'm just two years away. I see it coming. away. I see it coming. away. I see it coming. >> Are you Are you like, I don't like >> Are you Are you like, I don't like >> Are you Are you like, I don't like fortune cookie stuff right now. You're fortune cookie stuff right now. You're fortune cookie stuff right now. You're like, I want like, I want like, I want >> Yeah. I spent years reading personal >> Yeah. I spent years reading personal >> Yeah. I spent years reading personal development books and now I'm at that development books and now I'm at that development books and now I'm at that point where I'm like, I know it all. I point where I'm like, I know it all. I point where I'm like, I know it all. I read a new personal development book. read a new personal development book. read a new personal development book. I've seen it before, but I know I hear I've seen it before, but I know I hear I've seen it before, but I know I hear what you're saying. In a few years, it's what you're saying. In a few years, it's what you're saying. In a few years, it's going to come back and I'm going to be going to come back and I'm going to be going to come back and I'm going to be like, "These people were so wise." like, "These people were so wise." like, "These people were so wise." [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> Look, Steph, I'm going to be I'm going >> Look, Steph, I'm going to be I'm going >> Look, Steph, I'm going to be I'm going to be patronizing to you. You're young. to be patronizing to you. You're young. to be patronizing to you. You're young. You'll figure it [laughter] out. You'll You'll figure it [laughter] out. You'll You'll figure it [laughter] out. You'll get there when I felt that way. get there when I felt that way. get there when I felt that way. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Two years older than me, something like >> Two years older than me, something like >> Two years older than me, something like that. that. that. >> You'll get there. [laughter] >> You'll get there. [laughter] >> You'll get there. [laughter] You'll understand once you have a few You'll understand once you have a few You'll understand once you have a few kids, Steph. kids, Steph. kids, Steph. And then when you have one And then when And then when you have one And then when And then when you have one And then when you have one kid, when you have one kid, you have one kid, when you have one kid, you have one kid, when you have one kid, we're going to say, we're going to say, we're going to say, >> "Wait, you have two." >> "Wait, you have two." >> "Wait, you have two." >> Wait till you have two. [laughter] >> Wait till you have two. [laughter] >> Wait till you have two. [laughter] >> That's That's the most patronizing >> That's That's the most patronizing >> That's That's the most patronizing thing. thing. thing. >> Wait, you got easy. >> Wait, you got easy. >> Wait, you got easy. >> Well, somebody in like in the deep. >> Well, somebody in like in the deep. >> Well, somebody in like in the deep. >> Sean's got a gaggle. >> Sean's got a gaggle. >> Sean's got a gaggle. >> I got three. >> I got three. >> I got three. >> You going for more? >> You going for more? >> You going for more? >> So, I get to do it to Sam. Sam's got >> So, I get to do it to Sam. Sam's got >> So, I get to do it to Sam. Sam's got two. So, I'm like, "Oh, two." two. So, I'm like, "Oh, two." two. So, I'm like, "Oh, two." >> On vacation, huh? >> On vacation, huh? >> On vacation, huh? >> Oh, that must be nice. >> Oh, that must be nice. >> Oh, that must be nice. >> I'm not gonna blow up her spot. I'll let >> I'm not gonna blow up her spot. I'll let >> I'm not gonna blow up her spot. I'll let you decide, Sean. But Sean's wife on you decide, Sean. But Sean's wife on you decide, Sean. But Sean's wife on Instagram is a great follow right now. Instagram is a great follow right now. Instagram is a great follow right now. She does some wild Elf on the Shelf She does some wild Elf on the Shelf She does some wild Elf on the Shelf stuff and it is a great f find. Me and stuff and it is a great f find. Me and stuff and it is a great f find. Me and Sarah will like be like, "Look at what Sarah will like be like, "Look at what Sarah will like be like, "Look at what she did today. It's incredible." she did today. It's incredible." she did today. It's incredible." >> We went to like a kid's school >> We went to like a kid's school >> We went to like a kid's school performance today and this mom came over performance today and this mom came over performance today and this mom came over to her and she was like, "I just got to to her and she was like, "I just got to to her and she was like, "I just got to say, I live for your story right now." say, I live for your story right now." say, I live for your story right now." She's like, "Every day I'm checking, She's like, "Every day I'm checking, She's like, "Every day I'm checking, when is she gonna post it?" She's like, when is she gonna post it?" She's like, when is she gonna post it?" She's like, "I'm not gonna do any of that stuff, but "I'm not gonna do any of that stuff, but "I'm not gonna do any of that stuff, but I love that you do it." And I was like, I love that you do it." And I was like, I love that you do it." And I was like, "Oh god, you never want to be in that "Oh god, you never want to be in that "Oh god, you never want to be in that position." position." position." >> The other day, she took a huge wall, >> The other day, she took a huge wall, >> The other day, she took a huge wall, like imagine a one-bedroom wall, and like imagine a one-bedroom wall, and like imagine a one-bedroom wall, and using Post-it notes, I think they are using Post-it notes, I think they are using Post-it notes, I think they are post-it notes. She outlined the Grinch. post-it notes. She outlined the Grinch. post-it notes. She outlined the Grinch. So, imagine the Grinch's face, but the So, imagine the Grinch's face, but the So, imagine the Grinch's face, but the art is like Post-it notes. art is like Post-it notes. art is like Post-it notes. >> I [snorts] got to show you. >> I [snorts] got to show you. >> I [snorts] got to show you. >> So sick. >> So sick. >> So sick. >> It was like a Monae. >> It was like a Monae. >> It was like a Monae. >> It's still up. We're not taking it down. >> It's still up. We're not taking it down. >> It's still up. We're not taking it down. >> I don't think you can. And that looks >> I don't think you can. And that looks >> I don't think you can. And that looks like I like I like she must have like like I like I like she must have like like I like I like she must have like used string to like put the like make used string to like put the like make used string to like put the like make like the the grid, right? Like it looks like the the grid, right? Like it looks like the the grid, right? Like it looks like a pretty like intense project. like a pretty like intense project. like a pretty like intense project. >> It was hilarious because it was the only >> It was hilarious because it was the only >> It was hilarious because it was the only one of the season I did with her because one of the season I did with her because one of the season I did with her because it was like such a big one to do and um it was like such a big one to do and um it was like such a big one to do and um we needed some like bonding time and so we needed some like bonding time and so we needed some like bonding time and so I was like, "Okay, let's do this." but I was like, "Okay, let's do this." but I was like, "Okay, let's do this." but she's a perfectionist and is like good she's a perfectionist and is like good she's a perfectionist and is like good at things and I'm a good enough is good at things and I'm a good enough is good at things and I'm a good enough is good enough kind of guy. And so it was just enough kind of guy. And so it was just enough kind of guy. And so it was just an awful experience for both of us an awful experience for both of us an awful experience for both of us [laughter] to try to do that together [laughter] to try to do that together [laughter] to try to do that together because she's trying to like create a because she's trying to like create a because she's trying to like create a grid. If something was off, she'd have grid. If something was off, she'd have grid. If something was off, she'd have to to to >> like putting together furniture with >> like putting together furniture with >> like putting together furniture with your girlfriend. It's just like it your girlfriend. It's just like it your girlfriend. It's just like it doesn't end well. doesn't end well. doesn't end well. >> I'm like they're four years old. They're >> I'm like they're four years old. They're >> I'm like they're four years old. They're not going to know. They can't even see not going to know. They can't even see not going to know. They can't even see this high. Um, so like it's like they this high. Um, so like it's like they this high. Um, so like it's like they will never know that there was this like will never know that there was this like will never know that there was this like one millimeter gap and uh you know she one millimeter gap and uh you know she one millimeter gap and uh you know she had to fix it. had to fix it. had to fix it. >> She must have listened to the Will >> She must have listened to the Will >> She must have listened to the Will Gerapod that I did. [laughter] Gerapod that I did. [laughter] Gerapod that I did. [laughter] >> That was her inspiration for sure. >> That was her inspiration for sure. >> That was her inspiration for sure. >> She must be a listener. Uh [laughter] >> She must be a listener. Uh [laughter] >> She must be a listener. Uh [laughter] >> wait, I want to hear you guys. We didn't >> wait, I want to hear you guys. We didn't >> wait, I want to hear you guys. We didn't do best new habit. Did you guys have a do best new habit. Did you guys have a do best new habit. Did you guys have a good one for that one? I also partially good one for that one? I also partially good one for that one? I also partially just want to brag. just want to brag. just want to brag. >> What is you're you're a runner now, >> What is you're you're a runner now, >> What is you're you're a runner now, Steph. We get it this year. Steph. We get it this year. Steph. We get it this year. Yes, we missed that one. Yes, we missed that one. Yes, we missed that one. >> You're you're a runner and you're fast. >> You're you're a runner and you're fast. >> You're you're a runner and you're fast. We We We >> Sam's like, "We we missed it >> Sam's like, "We we missed it >> Sam's like, "We we missed it intentionally." intentionally." intentionally." >> No, I have I think you running You've >> No, I have I think you running You've >> No, I have I think you running You've been running really I assume you're been running really I assume you're been running really I assume you're going to say running, right? Cuz your going to say running, right? Cuz your going to say running, right? Cuz your times are actually incredibly fast. times are actually incredibly fast. times are actually incredibly fast. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. I'm like run all these miles for >> Yes. I'm like run all these miles for >> Yes. I'm like run all these miles for now. We can finally talk about it. now. We can finally talk about it. now. We can finally talk about it. >> Go for it. >> Go for it. >> Go for it. >> What am I running all these miles for? >> What am I running all these miles for? >> What am I running all these miles for? No. Yeah. My best life hack slashnew No. Yeah. My best life hack slashnew No. Yeah. My best life hack slashnew habit that was the category was running. habit that was the category was running. habit that was the category was running. And I just wanted to say that I started And I just wanted to say that I started And I just wanted to say that I started running about 14 to 16 months ago and running about 14 to 16 months ago and running about 14 to 16 months ago and I've run two marathons. And I'm I've run two marathons. And I'm I've run two marathons. And I'm mentioning it because I feel like mentioning it because I feel like mentioning it because I feel like everyone runs now, but also there's a everyone runs now, but also there's a everyone runs now, but also there's a ton of people that have never done it ton of people that have never done it ton of people that have never done it because they they think it sucks and because they they think it sucks and because they they think it sucks and it's awesome and I think anyone can like it's awesome and I think anyone can like it's awesome and I think anyone can like get to the point where they're running get to the point where they're running get to the point where they're running marathons, running three miles a day. marathons, running three miles a day. marathons, running three miles a day. That's how I started. Um, and yeah, I That's how I started. Um, and yeah, I That's how I started. Um, and yeah, I feel pretty good about it. feel pretty good about it. feel pretty good about it. >> What was your uh wasn't your time like >> What was your uh wasn't your time like >> What was your uh wasn't your time like sub eight minute miles? sub eight minute miles? sub eight minute miles? Yeah, I just ran my second marathon. Uh Yeah, I just ran my second marathon. Uh Yeah, I just ran my second marathon. Uh 3:30, so just under eight. 3:30, so just under eight. 3:30, so just under eight. >> That's incredible, Sean. That's fast. >> That's incredible, Sean. That's fast. >> That's incredible, Sean. That's fast. >> Why? >> Why? >> Why? >> Yeah, I just said it there. [laughter] >> Yeah, I just said it there. [laughter] >> Yeah, I just said it there. [laughter] >> Why do people do this? >> Why do people do this? >> Why do people do this? Why do all of you who are doing this do Why do all of you who are doing this do Why do all of you who are doing this do this? That's how I feel about running this? That's how I feel about running this? That's how I feel about running marathons. marathons. marathons. >> It is awesome. It It is awesome. Like I >> It is awesome. It It is awesome. Like I >> It is awesome. It It is awesome. Like I I like to run. I'm horrible at it. I get I like to run. I'm horrible at it. I get I like to run. I'm horrible at it. I get more joy out of running than any type of more joy out of running than any type of more joy out of running than any type of weightlifting or any other exercise. I weightlifting or any other exercise. I weightlifting or any other exercise. I think that it's less good for you than think that it's less good for you than think that it's less good for you than the other stuff, but it's the most the other stuff, but it's the most the other stuff, but it's the most enjoyable when it hits. enjoyable when it hits. enjoyable when it hits. >> It's because you can I mean, you can do >> It's because you can I mean, you can do >> It's because you can I mean, you can do this with weightlift lifting, but you this with weightlift lifting, but you this with weightlift lifting, but you can measure your progress so clearly and can measure your progress so clearly and can measure your progress so clearly and you can also progress really quickly. I you can also progress really quickly. I you can also progress really quickly. I think compared to other sports or think compared to other sports or think compared to other sports or >> I think it's just going to be one of >> I think it's just going to be one of >> I think it's just going to be one of those things for me. Mustard, pickles, those things for me. Mustard, pickles, those things for me. Mustard, pickles, running, just things I [laughter] don't running, just things I [laughter] don't running, just things I [laughter] don't like that other people seem to love. I I like that other people seem to love. I I like that other people seem to love. I I just can't do it. just can't do it. just can't do it. >> I don't know, man. 20 minutes into like >> I don't know, man. 20 minutes into like >> I don't know, man. 20 minutes into like a 50-minute run, like you go into like a a 50-minute run, like you go into like a a 50-minute run, like you go into like a little bit of a cave and it is like a little bit of a cave and it is like a little bit of a cave and it is like a special special special It is kind of special. It is cool. You It is kind of special. It is cool. You It is kind of special. It is cool. You should try it. should try it. should try it. >> Here's my pitch. Everyone talks about >> Here's my pitch. Everyone talks about >> Here's my pitch. Everyone talks about this running high. Don't chase the this running high. Don't chase the this running high. Don't chase the running high because it's far away. running high because it's far away. running high because it's far away. Think about Do you like walking? Think about Do you like walking? Think about Do you like walking? >> Love walking. Huge walker. >> Love walking. Huge walker. >> Love walking. Huge walker. >> Great. So, the feeling you get when >> Great. So, the feeling you get when >> Great. So, the feeling you get when you're walking is not I can't wait for you're walking is not I can't wait for you're walking is not I can't wait for this to end. It's like I'm outside. Look this to end. It's like I'm outside. Look this to end. It's like I'm outside. Look at this beautiful thing. My body feels at this beautiful thing. My body feels at this beautiful thing. My body feels good. There is a spectrum, not like a good. There is a spectrum, not like a good. There is a spectrum, not like a binary difference between walking and binary difference between walking and binary difference between walking and running, right? So people talk about running, right? So people talk about running, right? So people talk about them like they're two separate things, them like they're two separate things, them like they're two separate things, but there is some version of running. It but there is some version of running. It but there is some version of running. It might be really slow right now where you might be really slow right now where you might be really slow right now where you feel like you're walking. And so if you feel like you're walking. And so if you feel like you're walking. And so if you start there, which is not where we're start there, which is not where we're start there, which is not where we're taught to start, and you just run at taught to start, and you just run at taught to start, and you just run at that pace for a mile a day and then two that pace for a mile a day and then two that pace for a mile a day and then two miles a day and then, you know, do that miles a day and then, you know, do that miles a day and then, you know, do that for a while, you will get to a point for a while, you will get to a point for a while, you will get to a point where your body, you know, becomes more where your body, you know, becomes more where your body, you know, becomes more efficient. And over time, you're going efficient. And over time, you're going efficient. And over time, you're going to be running 10-minute miles at that to be running 10-minute miles at that to be running 10-minute miles at that walking, feeling pace, and you're going walking, feeling pace, and you're going walking, feeling pace, and you're going to love running. I'm telling you. to love running. I'm telling you. to love running. I'm telling you. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> Okay, nice try. Yeah, the jury will >> Okay, nice try. Yeah, the jury will >> Okay, nice try. Yeah, the jury will consider what you said and uh consider what you said and uh consider what you said and uh >> and he might be out for a flight. I >> and he might be out for a flight. I >> and he might be out for a flight. I don't know. don't know. don't know. >> Guilty. [laughter] >> Guilty. [laughter] >> Guilty. [laughter] >> All right. Um a habit you wanted to do >> All right. Um a habit you wanted to do >> All right. Um a habit you wanted to do or no? or no? or no? >> No. Waking up early. >> No. Waking up early. >> No. Waking up early. >> All right. Well, Steph, I hope um you >> All right. Well, Steph, I hope um you >> All right. Well, Steph, I hope um you got that in. That's great. Uh Steph, you got that in. That's great. Uh Steph, you got that in. That's great. Uh Steph, you have some offer for people who are have some offer for people who are have some offer for people who are listening. What is the What is the listening. What is the What is the listening. What is the What is the offer? What is the thing that you're offer? What is the thing that you're offer? What is the thing that you're giving people if they go in the comments giving people if they go in the comments giving people if they go in the comments or or the description and click? What is or or the description and click? What is or or the description and click? What is it? it? it? >> Oh, yeah. HubSpot and you guys at My >> Oh, yeah. HubSpot and you guys at My >> Oh, yeah. HubSpot and you guys at My First Million were very kind and First Million were very kind and First Million were very kind and generous to offer. Um, Internet Pipes is generous to offer. Um, Internet Pipes is generous to offer. Um, Internet Pipes is a project I've worked on for the last a project I've worked on for the last a project I've worked on for the last two years. Probably heard about it on two years. Probably heard about it on two years. Probably heard about it on the pod before. So, if you go to the the pod before. So, if you go to the the pod before. So, if you go to the link, I guess in the show notes, you can link, I guess in the show notes, you can link, I guess in the show notes, you can enter and get one of 10 copies. There's enter and get one of 10 copies. There's enter and get one of 10 copies. There's also a MFM code you can use if you don't also a MFM code you can use if you don't also a MFM code you can use if you don't want to wait for that. If you end up want to wait for that. If you end up want to wait for that. If you end up winning, we'll refund you. Um, and if winning, we'll refund you. Um, and if winning, we'll refund you. Um, and if you enter, you get my digits database. you enter, you get my digits database. you enter, you get my digits database. So it's like a 100 plus um digits. So So it's like a 100 plus um digits. So So it's like a 100 plus um digits. So these like generation defining trends these like generation defining trends these like generation defining trends that hopefully will mean something that hopefully will mean something that hopefully will mean something meaningful in the future. Things like meaningful in the future. Things like meaningful in the future. Things like like we talked about some of these like we talked about some of these like we talked about some of these really impressive people before, right? really impressive people before, right? really impressive people before, right? But like what did Elon see? He saw that But like what did Elon see? He saw that But like what did Elon see? He saw that it was possible to exponentially it was possible to exponentially it was possible to exponentially decrease the cost to send a kilogram to decrease the cost to send a kilogram to decrease the cost to send a kilogram to space. What does that mean? Well, it space. What does that mean? Well, it space. What does that mean? Well, it means like completely re rethinking our means like completely re rethinking our means like completely re rethinking our communication system. Starlink. So, they communication system. Starlink. So, they communication system. Starlink. So, they go in, they they definitely get the go in, they they definitely get the go in, they they definitely get the database, and then 10 people will also database, and then 10 people will also database, and then 10 people will also get get get >> uh free access to pipes. >> uh free access to pipes. >> uh free access to pipes. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> All right, go get it. All right, guys. >> All right, go get it. All right, guys. >> All right, go get it. All right, guys. What a year. What a year. What a year. >> God bless America. God bless this >> God bless America. God bless this >> God bless America. God bless this podcast. Sean, podcast. Sean, podcast. Sean, >> good uh good year. >> good uh good year. >> good uh good year. >> Another one, brother. >> Another one, brother. >> Another one, brother. >> You guys didn't even >> You guys didn't even >> You guys didn't even >> I can't see. What does it say? I'm on a >> I can't see. What does it say? I'm on a >> I can't see. What does it say? I'm on a small screen. small screen. small screen. >> Is it Is it um backwards? >> Is it Is it um backwards? >> Is it Is it um backwards? >> How about noodles? >> How about noodles? >> How about noodles? >> How about them noodles? >> How about them noodles? >> How about them noodles? That's a wrap.